Garmin Connect Courses API: Course Sync w/ Strava and Komoot
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2020
- Garmin have simplified the process of getting courses/routes onto their devices with Garmin Connect Courses API. Upon release there have been a few articles in the media that don't quite nail the details on how this works. Garmin Connect is still used. In fact, it is THE core component that makes this all work. I expect to see more mapping services added in the near future.
DCRainmaker Garmin Connect Courses API How-To: bit.ly/2z2b0IL
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Thanks Shane, little 'tidbit tricks and tips' videos like this are a godsend, I guarantee you save someone at 2am on a Saturday who's trying to figure this out.
The irony is that it was me up at 2am on a Saturday figuring this out. :)
When I switched from my Edge 810 to Elemnt Bolt, it was like a breath of fresh air seeing how easy it was to get routes onto my device. I figured SURELY Garmin would have caught up by now. Yeah, about that ...
But doesn’t this require you to use RidewGPS?
My life is to complicated enough I don’t need more complications ,but I liked your post👍👍
Great explanation! I messed with this a couple days ago after the announcement. I only had partial success. After your clear description: bingo, complete success. Thank you 🙏
Super useful video, trying to work this out has been a minefield!
Garmin Connect and the App are seriously illogical and in serious need of an overhaul
Thanks for letting us know
I think I stay with the Connect IQ App from Komoot on my Edge, sounds still way simpler and is "Two Direction".😉
Wahoo does it so much easier.
Wahoo and komoot great combination
what a great review
I tried this when it first came out and the route copied by the API differs from a rout exported and imported using a GPX format. There are issues with Strava segments, climb pro, and elevations. I’ve tried it on several routes and not been able to successfully work properly. My hope was that I could get to see Strava segments while navigating a route. Only sometimes, and then not very well. This needs work.
Thank you
Thanks for this Shane. I have been searching all day to try and find some way of "managing" a smaller subset of courses that are on my device at any one time. If I summarise correctly from your explanation, once a course has got onto the device, it will auto-update at next sync (if the course was edited), but it won't ever be removed. I'm looking because it seems my entire Komoot route list got synced to the watch. I would like to be able to push just specific routes/courses from Komoot to Connect and then to the device, but not all of them. Do you know if that is possible please? I still didn't find a way to "sort" the routes on the Fenix 6 to allow selection of the one I want quicker, hence wanting just a smaller subset on the device. Seems there is no way yet in connect to mark courses as "not for sync" to do that...
Wahoo just thanked Garmin. #simple #wahooligan
So I’m still unclear on which is best for what I need- Roam or now a given Garmin device. I prefer Stravas route setting utility. But I have to have turn by turn directions. I also need on-the-fly course correction as I deal with changes during a long ride.
This seems like a lot more work than simply downloading the respective apps in the garmin store and launching the routes directly on the device. I’ve been doing that for years, and i will likely keep using that method as it keeps me out of Garmin Connect. The UI on that platform is probably the worst i can recall ever using
Not sure why this is "more work" effectively it is removing the friction of the iq app. I can hit navigate and courses then be on my way... or hit IQ then find strava in the apps then go to courses then take extra long for it to load the handler app and course. It makes much more sense to run it natively 🤷🏼♀️
Can you do an updated 2024 video on routes, Strava segments, and climb pro working together on Edge bike computers?
Seeing some weird elevation figures for routes synced this way, the Edge 830 shows the elevation as between 2 and 4 times the actual. It's correct in Garmin Connect Mobile.
Shane, is there any way I can get ride details from Strava back to Garmin Connect?
So does this make the Connect IQ Strava routes a redundant add on for head units?
Maybe. They'll still work.
Doing the courses on the 3 party applications i will get curve by curve indications ?
Garmin units will do turn by turn if they have the mapping information on them.
when we can see heart rate during a shared live track to see how is the athlete you are following?
Can this all be done by mobile only as I can't be arsed to boot the laptop up every time I fancy something new
Once this is setup you don't have to touch anything.....if it all works as designed.
Interesting little thing you said there, that you could run into problems if you have too many too long routes in Komoot. Is this something you know or something you guess? Asking because I have long suspected that my Wahoo units suffer (they sometimes do a lot of reboots and even spontaneous factory resets and removing a few long routes tend to stop that from happening) from something like that, and I've been thinking of trying Garmin just to see if they handle that better. Just an error message telling me that too many long routes are actually the problem would make me a lot happier. Few things frustrate me more than things that crash without providing any clue about what's going on.
That's not exactly what I said. If you have a TON of routes with any system imported then things become hard to manage. This is the same across any head unit.
If you download the Strava app using connect IQ, Strava will sync your Strava courses directly to your garmin device, same as Komoot.
Yes, this has been an option for a while.
Ah, so this is how Garmin will harvest all that third party data.
All your base are belong to us!
I use Garmin Connect constantly & the connection can be very hit & miss, I constantly have to turn off/back on my bluetooth & then it usually works…. However it’s not instant at all even if device & the phone are connected.
i think i will stick with plotaroute, create a TCX file and manually load it onto the garmin :)
Would you be bale to make an update on this video. After being a Wahoo user for many years, I have just purchased a Garmin 1040. The sync of routes between Strava and Garmin is very crappy. Adding starts to existing routes dosen't add them I need to edit them and save. Removing the starts dosen't take them away from the Garmin - Its actually very bad, I i kinda which I stayed on the Wahoo.
Oh..That's also what you are saying in the video - apparently it's still the same. I'm not impressed ;-)
Can you make a course on a lake for canoeing or kayaking?
I’ve never tried this.
Do you need to subscribe to strava premium to sync your rides to your Garmin device?
No, but you need to be a subscriber to create them. (You can copy existing routes with a free account iirc)
Can you do a video on the Strava new paid platform. They are removing segments to paid? It seemed like a whole shift getting you to be paid now. Wanted your take on this
I'm waiting on the changes to roll out so I can get a hands-on review. People are saying Segments are paywalled, they are not. I'll give a no BS take on both sides.
@@gplama fantastic, thanks
God damn this seems convoluted. I'll stick with my Bolt and RWGPS thanks
Once it is setup and working, it 'just works'. Getting there and understanding how it works is beyond what we usually see in press release info.
My problem w RWGPS is that you have to pay to make routes while mobile which means no altering your route when you’re out. It also has some REALLY silly routing where it takes me in a neighborhood to avoid 2 traffic lights.
Garmin Connect Curses API
Garmin connect course api work only for road. For offroad it isn't good choice :(
Wicked Pissah Cool Video But I’ll stick to my Wahoo Roam So much easier!
Wonder if RideWithGPS will also support this? Their Garmin App is already pretty good at syncing with RwGPS and allows you to load recent and starred courses.
I guess it depends on their business model. If they want to keep everyone within their walls/apps then maybe not. I hope they'll implement support.
@@gplama They give the impression of being quite progressive and proactive, so hopefully they use this generic route instead of the workaround that the app essentially was.
@@gplama Just got an email from RwGPS that this has been implemented. Fast work. Sync RwGPS account to Garmin, pin a route, and it'll sync to your Garmin.
Unless Garmin finally solves the problem with the underlying vertical model, routes created on Connect are pretty useless. And importing a valid route from Strava to Connect unfortunately does not solve this problem .
how interesting! Big fan of Komoot and own a Garmin edge and a connect account. So as soon as I saw this I went straight to my connect's account information. And guess what? No external application to be found anywhere.......... Typical Garmin! I have used Garmin GPS for 20 years and owned a dozen Garmin units but it keeps disappointing so goodbye Garmin!
Load Garmin Connect (on the web) -> Profile and Account (top right) -> Account Settings -> Account Information. Scroll down to "Applications".
@@gplama thanks for trying to help. But that's exactly what I did (just did it again to be sure) and the only thing I find is some 'vivoki' tracker stuff and some "smart scale". No link to Komoot on the horizon :(
Maybe Garmin changed their mind in the meantime?
I just stick with Wahoo I think...
How is this any different than downloading a gpx from strava/komoot and uploading it to your Garmin device either directly (usb), via pc or via your mobile (difficult but possible if using right route). Garmin is making something easy and sound special which should have been possible all along... this is a joke...
When touring I use komoot and need to do a bunch op trickery to get the gpx on my 1030 with my iphone only.
Once this is setup, it’s automatic. Create a route, have it appear on your devices.
Garmin's user interface and software are deplorable and there is NO excuse for how bad they are. My garmin loses connection to my phone EVERY SINGLE RIDE. I hate my garmin and if another superior product enters the market place I will gladly jump ship.
*Wahoo enters the chat*
@@gplama I had it for a year, in a busy city with park ways roads, bike paths and side walks everywhere the screen was so hard to read that I ended up switching back to garmin. Also I couldn't trust the mapping on the wahoo. One time when I was out and I wanted to abandon the ride and just take shortest way back home, the wahoo routed me through a creek bed complete with flowing water. Notice, I don't mean across a creek bed, but through it. It thought it was a bike path I guess but, wahoo... Maybe if they make a smaller roam or something. Also the wahoo did not play nice with my Favero Assioma duo pedals... I was hoping the hammerhead karoo would be the new king but I haven't even seen a reason yet to buy it... Maybe the new Karoo 2 will be the answer.
Yeah, their blutetooth connectivity really is rather... poor. Just yesterday my 530 lost the phone twice, lost the heart rate monitor and the cadence sensor at least five times and the speed sensor decided to do its own thing altogether, recording speeds up to 90km/h while I was standing still. While I've had intermittent problems before, things seem to be getting worse and worse with every update. Frankly, I'm tired of it. So much so I keep my ancient ROX 9.0 around, as it's proving to be more reliable just for the basics.
I think I disagree. I just used this feature this morning. You have to download the Strava Courses app in Connect IQ. Then under the very first menu on the device (not the menu in a profile but the top menu) go to Connect IQ apps and Strava routes will be there. Open Strava routes and if you have sync'd the device any courses from strava should show up. Then in order for them to get into the courses list on the device select ride route. This will download it to the device. Then it will be on the device under the courses menu in your profiles. Garmin is a weird company.
No, you don’t need to download anything with ConnectIQ. You can if you like, but that’s not what this feature does. That’s the older way.
too many words to fast..
Well... that's to be expected with your username. You can watch at a slower speed in the settings.
That one direction attempted joke was cringe worthy. uh....attempting to be funny in your case failed miserably.
I'm glad you noticed... on a video from a while ago. 1200 more videos to cringe at! GO!