Kuddos to the band for speaking out and taking actions, they could have put this under the rug but they decided to sabotage their own band to speak the truth. This is worth noting
That's so disgusting my family members have had cancer and thankfully survived it. But I have family members that have passed from cancer it hurts to hear this. It's so fucked up
Reading Bon’s apology, he was clearly desperate. But lying about cancer is just not the way. I think pretty much everyone has some sort of personal story when it comes to cancer so it hits hard when someone takes advantage of it and makes light of something so painful. Also I just feel so bad for the rest of the band for being screwed over. Not to mention other people like my favourite band Prompts, greyscale, and everyone else who just tried to help. Bon fucked up. He would have been better off coming out explaining the actual situation and hoping people would help him so he would have been able to continue his career. Like there must have been some fans or bands that wouldn’t want to see him getting beat up or worse over illegal loans. Faking cancer was just NOT the solution. Never is.
@@smooookeswith the amount of people calling this disgusting that you've been replying to, I'd think eventually you'd realize you're wrong. Maybe a few more.
@@smooookes so it can't be shameful AND disgusting? Because it seems both words are leading to the same conclusion. It's fucked either way, idk why you're so hung up on the word people are using.
Just lost my hair to chemo a few weeks back, cycle 2 out of 4 for stage 2b testicular cancer. Maybe this guy can lose his hair and his right ball instead of me? Wild thing to lie about, he also made it up specifically for money is the insinuation here, as he had no other reason to lie about an illness other than to pay off his debts. Shit was explicitly pre-meditated.
Nik, Thanks for sharing this situation. It’s so upsetting that Bon has to do this from people they’ve trusted him. It’s so messed up in so many ways. I wished Bon could’ve reached out to his band members about his life problems. But, I don’t think he will be forgiven after what he’ve done. Again, Thanks for sharing this situation out Nik.
I was devastated when Tom Searle passed from cancer. I met Ryan Castaldi from Currents on his first tour back from chemo and radiation, looking like death warmed over, but still going beast mode on stage. This guy is....TH-cam won't let me post it, but use your imagination.
I’ve been to the Prompts charity show and you could see how much they cared about their friend and his situation. Rather than the money it pains me to think about how the guys must be feeling about all of this…
situations like this, if his debt is true, I don't understand the lying about cancer part. Sure it's easy money, but it'll come out eventually that you lied If he had just been honest about debts, people would think he's an idiot but probably still would have tried to help him out. People can be generous to a fault and I don't see how the lying about cancer part was better than just being upfront about his situation (if it's even true, which likely no one will believe now anyway). But I have seen people in bad situations lie about being in a different bad situation..for some reason? It's dumb
On the other hand, this makes me think of Keaton Pierce - man had a stomach virus (if I'm not mistaken?), kept quiet about it, and wrote a song (Sympathy) about having a sickness inside him. Imagine how he would feel after seeing stuff like this. 💀💀
@@krypttt Ignore this user. They've replied to everyone trying to downplay what that man did. It's not "just shameful." It's a lot of the worst things you can do as a person, all rolled into one.
This is beyond fucked up. My father is going through stage 4 colon cancer and right now he still holding up and seeing doctor every week. And now this vocal metal guy is faking his cancer? Screw that guy!
My first thought was that "they'll get a sick new vocalist quick after this." That then lead me to think "What if this vocalist was already done, and this is just to get attention for the remaining band members?"
As a chronically ill person, seeing illness fakers (especially with something that's generally fatal) makes me so fucking annoyed. I hate this shit so much it's unreal. Seriously the lowest of the low as far as attention seeking behavior.
I’m normally a light hearted, chill guy. But the way I was damn near shaking in anger for this, holy FUCK. That man is going straight to hell for this Thanks a lot nik for sharing this not so fun metal thing 😂😂 -a cancer survivor
What people like Bon don't grasp is that a cancer diagnosis is life-changing not just for that person, but the people closest to them... it literally upends your life. A lot of people struggle with being confronted with their own & their loved one's mortality, and I've supported several friends through years of treatment when their partners or family just couldn't cope with constant hospital visits & trips to the oncologist. It's an emotional roller-coaster for everyone, and once you're on that ride you can't get off... so far more than the money, this a-hole scammed his friends, family, band mates & fans _emotionally._ Absolute POS.
This basically happened with my local scene. Some girl pretended she had cancer, we raised a decent amount for her. Turned out she was fine and had used the money for a tattoo. She went so far as to shave her head to pretend it was real
Sht like this stains the metal scene and its due to people who cant take responsibility and face the consequences of their fk ups without involving the innocent or atleast disclosing the situation. Fk man this sucks
now do ash hull, and how nobody at greyscale or in any of the bands are talking about it. same people holding a knife to someone else of unproven scrutiny.
Speaking as an actual guy who has been successfully fighting actual stage 4 cancer for almost two years, I can say that Bon should really consider what he throws out to the universe as it may come back on him. Stealing is illegal and immoral - stealing the goodwill of others is nothing short of pure evil.
The singer of the band Tiamat pulled that same stunt back in 2009. He even said he lied about it for attention. I went off on him so badly on Facebook that they ended up blocking me. It made me really mad because only a scum bag would lie about having cancer and at the time my grandma was fighting cancer.
Fuck cancer, my mom’s been dealing with on and off non-hodgkins lymphoma for about 10 years now. She’s still kicking, but I always worry that it might sneak up on her again and get real nasty
@@metalcoremichael1024 Yeah, I had a brain tumor and they couldn't do the radiation so they went in and removed it, gave me a nice 5 inch scar but that's better then the other option. 8 yrs later I got it in my stomach, got it removed and dealt with...well all I can do now is just laugh about life and wait for my third strike. Bets on location is okay. Yeah I deal with it through humor, nothing else to do. Also all my best to your mother and all you around her that also suffers from that shit! Be strong brother.
Kuddos to the band for speaking out and taking actions, they could have put this under the rug but they decided to sabotage their own band to speak the truth. This is worth noting
Real men do real shit enough said those boys are goats
Im shocked tim lambesis didnt think of doing this sooner.
Why? Tim isn't hurting for money lol
@@HoldingOnToSmoke yeah he lets someone else do it instead
😂😂😂
@@JustK4Y1512nailed it.
That's so disgusting my family members have had cancer and thankfully survived it. But I have family members that have passed from cancer it hurts to hear this. It's so fucked up
Yup, my mom is a cancer survivor and hearing about *anyone* who fakes cancer is scum of the earth
Idk about disgusting, more like shameful
@@smooookeswhy did you comment this like three times lmao
@@smooookes definitely disgusting... But yes also shameful
Why so much cancer? do you live in chernobyl? eat less red meat, people!
Reading Bon’s apology, he was clearly desperate. But lying about cancer is just not the way. I think pretty much everyone has some sort of personal story when it comes to cancer so it hits hard when someone takes advantage of it and makes light of something so painful. Also I just feel so bad for the rest of the band for being screwed over. Not to mention other people like my favourite band Prompts, greyscale, and everyone else who just tried to help. Bon fucked up. He would have been better off coming out explaining the actual situation and hoping people would help him so he would have been able to continue his career. Like there must have been some fans or bands that wouldn’t want to see him getting beat up or worse over illegal loans. Faking cancer was just NOT the solution. Never is.
As a stage 3 metastatic breast cancer survivor this is disgusting!!!
Disgusting is a stretch, moreso just shameful
@@smooookeswith the amount of people calling this disgusting that you've been replying to, I'd think eventually you'd realize you're wrong. Maybe a few more.
@@smooookes so it can't be shameful AND disgusting? Because it seems both words are leading to the same conclusion. It's fucked either way, idk why you're so hung up on the word people are using.
@tylerprince3496 yeah, but they were literally saying "disgusting is a strech"
Just lost my hair to chemo a few weeks back, cycle 2 out of 4 for stage 2b testicular cancer. Maybe this guy can lose his hair and his right ball instead of me? Wild thing to lie about, he also made it up specifically for money is the insinuation here, as he had no other reason to lie about an illness other than to pay off his debts. Shit was explicitly pre-meditated.
Nik, Thanks for sharing this situation. It’s so upsetting that Bon has to do this from people they’ve trusted him. It’s so messed up in so many ways. I wished Bon could’ve reached out to his band members about his life problems. But, I don’t think he will be forgiven after what he’ve done. Again, Thanks for sharing this situation out Nik.
I saw the Annalynn vocalist in the thumbnail and I was really hoping this was clickbait😭
Metalcore is now officially the genre with the second biggest (to black metal) amount of musicians doing some abysmal shit.
As in all musical genres
@Harumaki_ metalcore and black metal took the spotlight
@@Glasshexagon in metalcore apart from As I Lay Dying's frontman and Annalynn's frontman there is nothing
@Harumaki_ still has spotlight
Man you kids would lose your minds if you knew about GG Allin back in the old punk days
I was devastated when Tom Searle passed from cancer. I met Ryan Castaldi from Currents on his first tour back from chemo and radiation, looking like death warmed over, but still going beast mode on stage. This guy is....TH-cam won't let me post it, but use your imagination.
Still havent gotten over Tom! Architects haven't been the same since :(
Never heard of this band before but damn the first time I hear of 'em they're vocalist is already cancelled.
Really is a shame, been a fan of this band for years and this is something hard for the band to comeback from.
Boogie2998 but metal
legit the first time 99% of people have heard of this band. also the last time anyone will hear about them.
Opeth dropped today ^v^
2:38 Canadian slipped out
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That’s actually crazy
At the same time, people have done this outside of metal
Caleb needs a pay rise with all those beeps
I’ve been to the Prompts charity show and you could see how much they cared about their friend and his situation.
Rather than the money it pains me to think about how the guys must be feeling about all of this…
i’m impressed you managed to keep your hoody like that without it slipping off. Have you glued it to your hair or something?
situations like this, if his debt is true, I don't understand the lying about cancer part. Sure it's easy money, but it'll come out eventually that you lied
If he had just been honest about debts, people would think he's an idiot but probably still would have tried to help him out. People can be generous to a fault and I don't see how the lying about cancer part was better than just being upfront about his situation (if it's even true, which likely no one will believe now anyway). But I have seen people in bad situations lie about being in a different bad situation..for some reason? It's dumb
This is what the expression "OOF!" was made for.
Metalcore bands trying to have a contest to see who has the biggest POS as a frontman.
On the other hand, this makes me think of Keaton Pierce - man had a stomach virus (if I'm not mistaken?), kept quiet about it, and wrote a song (Sympathy) about having a sickness inside him. Imagine how he would feel after seeing stuff like this. 💀💀
That's fucking disgusting and shameful asf.
Disgusting is a stretch ... But shameful for sure
@@smooookeshow is disgusting a stretch????
@@krypttt Ignore this user. They've replied to everyone trying to downplay what that man did. It's not "just shameful." It's a lot of the worst things you can do as a person, all rolled into one.
Just like Nik's music taste.
shameful is an understatement...
I never expected anyone to take Jonny Craig's crown as a scammer in the metalcore scene. Kudo's to this guy for dethroning him.
Maybe he can form a band with the dude from As I Lay Dying and call themselves The Assholes,.
This is beyond fucked up. My father is going through stage 4 colon cancer and right now he still holding up and seeing doctor every week. And now this vocal metal guy is faking his cancer? Screw that guy!
We need your thoughts on the oceano situation
Burktts lymphoma survivor. I donated to this fund. Pretty fucking disgusting news to hear.
Nathapon starting his Boogie arc
I only know their mcmahon collab song ngl, but good job to the band for outing him
What?!?!?
This band was sick, their song with CJ McMahon is amazing, and vocalist sounded awesome
This is so so so fucked up
Tbf with all the drama i was waiting for it to be linked to AILD and the drama tied in with it
Damn man...Why?? Just...why? It's beyond insane. Geez.
My dad has cancer this makes me pissed off
Funny how even the rest of the band was like "😒 this is sus"
Shoutout Mike Lawler, my boi
Yo
F 2nd
Waiting for the 3dg react. Lets see it Nik
in time , thank you Nik. Just made my food
I’m consider myself extremely grateful that I don’t have to deal with cancer.. knowing that other people struggle with that circumstance.
Man i feel so bad for the rest of the band.
Nik besides of this story, PLEASE YOU NEED TO REACT TO THE NEW THREE DAYS GRACE SONG 🥺
As a Thai, Nik fan, and Matel-core fan, this is fucked up. they were the best of us, so disappointed.
Take a shot everytime Nik says *beep*
That's messed up man. I appreciate the rest of the band not covering up for him though.
My baby momma had cancer this year, she is ok....but man...lying about it is hardcore work
Man, who would fake a cancer diagnosis?? (cough)NickMenza(cough)
Nick WHAT???
Serious metal things 💀
This is the most messed up thing I've ever heard. Right to jail you go
Oh look. More Metal drama! Yeahhhhhhhhhh....
Was it Polycythemia vera?
They pulled a boogie298 but a metalcore vocalist instead of a TH-camr and I like Anna Lynn music prior to this
This is a wild case of Munchausen Syndrome
(I don't know this band) I don't blame the band I appreciate the band saying this. And this is awful by the singer
Oceano is breaking up cover that topic please
Damn even the metal scene isn't safe from cancer scams...
The amount of bleeps for cussing is hilarious, this being a false medical diagnosis video it sounds like a heart monitor lol.
I feel the reason this went on for so long is nobody wants to be the person who calls out a cancer diagnosis.
He also left as I lay dying
My first thought was that "they'll get a sick new vocalist quick after this." That then lead me to think "What if this vocalist was already done, and this is just to get attention for the remaining band members?"
Ban has also left as I lay dying
FFS!!! We were doing so well! This is why we can't have nice things!
At this point Nic I’m waiting for your dirty secrets to come out. Every Core person has a skeleton or two lol.
You don't understand, when bon was a child his mum twisted his tipples, so he had to fake cancer
😂
REACT TO NEW THORNHILL NIK CMONNNN
Or just skip it and avoid the disappointment. JK but seriously, I'm not a fan.
He should have to pay all the money back, and probably go to jail.
Yep. Kinda like Tim Lambesis, just look at the lyrics. You'll find out a lot about people.
As a chronically ill person, seeing illness fakers (especially with something that's generally fatal) makes me so fucking annoyed. I hate this shit so much it's unreal. Seriously the lowest of the low as far as attention seeking behavior.
speaking of bad news of metal world, did Nik checkout what happened with Oceano yet? 😦
I’m normally a light hearted, chill guy. But the way I was damn near shaking in anger for this, holy FUCK. That man is going straight to hell for this
Thanks a lot nik for sharing this not so fun metal thing 😂😂
-a cancer survivor
If this is making you shake in anger you might need to take a break from the internet. This type shit happens all the time.
@@buffhorses3632 I’ll be fine lol. Thankfully the algorithm across my socials don’t show this kind of stuff often. Thanks for the concern tho ☺️
People will do weird things for money and its proven once again.........
This is why metal can't have nice things.
Metalcore is the worst part of metal
@@gabrielceolato2 tf
@@gabrielceolato2 it would be if it was part of metal to begin with
@@gabrielceolato2 ok boomer
We lost Ronnie James Dio from stomach cancer so it is rather insulting.
What people like Bon don't grasp is that a cancer diagnosis is life-changing not just for that person, but the people closest to them... it literally upends your life. A lot of people struggle with being confronted with their own & their loved one's mortality, and I've supported several friends through years of treatment when their partners or family just couldn't cope with constant hospital visits & trips to the oncologist. It's an emotional roller-coaster for everyone, and once you're on that ride you can't get off... so far more than the money, this a-hole scammed his friends, family, band mates & fans _emotionally._ Absolute POS.
HI NICK😌
did he go full boogie?
OK, what the actual fuck?!
This basically happened with my local scene. Some girl pretended she had cancer, we raised a decent amount for her. Turned out she was fine and had used the money for a tattoo.
She went so far as to shave her head to pretend it was real
Sht like this stains the metal scene and its due to people who cant take responsibility and face the consequences of their fk ups without involving the innocent or atleast disclosing the situation. Fk man this sucks
now do ash hull, and how nobody at greyscale or in any of the bands are talking about it. same people holding a knife to someone else of unproven scrutiny.
The half Thai in me is shaking my head rn
Thats shameful!
I wonder if those loans are due to gambling or other addiction(s). That “see you soon” post is reprehensible.
🎶Oh boogie boogie why you lien to yourself🎶
It must be cold inside.
Speaking as an actual guy who has been successfully fighting actual stage 4 cancer for almost two years, I can say that Bon should really consider what he throws out to the universe as it may come back on him. Stealing is illegal and immoral - stealing the goodwill of others is nothing short of pure evil.
The singer of the band Tiamat pulled that same stunt back in 2009. He even said he lied about it for attention. I went off on him so badly on Facebook that they ended up blocking me. It made me really mad because only a scum bag would lie about having cancer and at the time my grandma was fighting cancer.
Kinda fucked to have to say "prove it" when a friend tells you that they have cancer.
That is low af.
Didn't realize Boogie joined a metalcore band.
I've beaten bowel cancer twice - coped all on my own.
Dude at first I thought it was gonna be AILD
I was so sad when they announced he had cancer and needed money to pay for his hospital bills
What's up
Boogie lore is spreading
Sup that shit cruel
R.I.P Metalcore and welcome to Cancercore.
PS. I´ve had cancer 2 times and survived it so yea I can joke about it.
Fuck cancer, my mom’s been dealing with on and off non-hodgkins lymphoma for about 10 years now. She’s still kicking, but I always worry that it might sneak up on her again and get real nasty
@@metalcoremichael1024
Yeah, I had a brain tumor and they couldn't do the radiation so they went in and removed it, gave me a nice 5 inch scar but that's better then the other option.
8 yrs later I got it in my stomach, got it removed and dealt with...well all I can do now is just laugh about life and wait for my third strike. Bets on location is okay.
Yeah I deal with it through humor, nothing else to do.
Also all my best to your mother and all you around her that also suffers from that shit! Be strong brother.
Metastasiscore spreading throughout the scene.
@@perlundgren7797
So many new subgenres to former Metalcore... good one Per!
could replace him with Tim Lambesis
I trust you.. I get the gist.