8 Lies Recruiters tell you!
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4 vs 6 year contracts
Let's talk about common lies about 4 year contracts vs 6 year contracts.
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It's 2 am I'm not going to the military.i sould go to bed
Carter Howlett Lmfaooo
Same I get caught up on these videos
I feel this comment so much 🤣 currently 1:25 am lmao
Lmaooo
Omg lmfaoooo 💀
The thing I loved with my recruiter is he kept it real and genuine and didnt Force you into anything. When I talked with the marines, I felt like I was getting forced into it
yuh they might be more annoying they act nicer i ain even met the army recruiter in person i just need to get this diploma online im prolly goin to go army marines might take longer from what the army rc said
Marines challenge your manhood. That is their biggest recruiting tool.
Actually same. Kept me out when i was 18. They were trying to twist my arm like crazy lol
When I talked to the Marine recruiter I told him I could not float or swim. There was so much hate in his eyes I could hardly wait to get out of there. I eventually learned how to swim.
Thought I would add, doing 6 years allows me to actually finish a bachelors degree while 4 wouldn't have. And now I can use my GI bill on a Masters Degree.
Reserves or active duty
Brandon Asif reserves most likely
Probably reserves
If reserv, he would mention.
Also, Kyle in the video talks about active duty all the time.
Why do you think reserv ?
I signed a 4 year contract myself and then left active duty April 15,2017 and now im a full time student in Texas. It has been amazing. Zero dollar's for school is the most amazing feeling, And im collecting a housing allowance/food allowance :)
Glad I watched the video and read this before going today
@@officialjeremiahblake Sign a 6 year if you want a good time, you will love the air force
@@rats335 why 6? Do you get more with 2 more years?
@@Joe-mp1de only way i would recommend you get a 6 year contract would be if the field you are wanting to go into, you would need 5+ years of experience. other than that, i would say 4 year is better completely. retrain at 3 years instead of 5, 2 less years of military commitment, you can get a resign bonus after your 4 year contract if you want to extend your commitment.
Yeah, but when you're making twice as much as a civilian you have to pay for housing, food, health insurance etc. So in reality, you're not making much more.
Grizz that’s what happens when he only has experience from the military side of things. You’re right! Wait till he finds out how much health care costs for a family!
joshua aguilar nightmare that youse don’t live In the uk
Hard-tradesmen are making bank though, especially plumbers, piperfitters, and HVAC technicians.
Exactly
If education is their main goal, I agree that 4 year contract is the way to go but remain in the Active Reserves the next 2 years and then Inactive Reserves the last 2 years. That way, you only go one weekend a month and two weeks a year; giving you some extra money while you're in school.
Thats what lots of active people do, expect they just reenlist in the reserves
"Extra money" looool
Civilian contractors don't get health benefits.
How much more extra we talking?
@@jesusaragon718 ?
All you need to know about recruiting, is to get a GUARANTEED job, when you sign the dotted line. In Basic, they told me my guaranteed job was no longer available, and I called their bluff. Amazingly, my job opened back up. Stick to your guns. GET A GUARANTEED JOB.
What is a “guaranteed job”?
How do you get a job guaranteed? I want to be a Cryptologic Language Analyst, and my recruiter keeps telling me that she can't guarantee me a job. Please tell me where I can learn more ablut this!! Thank you!
@@harrisonrodriguez5622 wondering same thing
@@harrisonrodriguez5622 have it in your contract
@@Deeznutz... read above
I absolutely love this. As a retired (24yr.) Capt. with 14 yrs. of stripes, 11 yrs. overseas, 2.5 in RVN. Came in with an IBM Wiring Operator's License (1966) and left with an MBA in Info Systems (worked on everything from punched cards to fiber optics). This young man speaks the ABSOLUTE truth.
My husband has a great recruiter now. I'm so glad I found your channel though. You've answered so many of my questions that I haven't gotten to ask the recruiter yet! Air Force is sounding more and more good for our family.
I can't believe recruiters lie. Especially with information at our fingertips.
Emotions cause you to ignore even obvious flaws in reasoning. Everyone in sales tries to do it. Some guys are great at it.
A recruiter is the equivalent of the military used car salesman/if it's not in writing it wasn't even mentioned.
Salary as a civilian vs a military is similar. The military needs to be competitive to keep their personnel. If you know you'll make more money as a civilian the less likely for someone to join. Your military benefits package needs to be factored into your salary because believe it or not it is very significant.
Yeah, military benefits are way better than civilian.
Agreed. Paying for college, insurance, housing and food all are HUGE benefits
"Make sure you tie your boots right! I'll make a video about it. On the military bunks, its better to sleep on your back. I'll make a video about that. After you get out and you want to start making youtube videos...i'll make a video about that too"
Where are the videos :(
Recruiters are basically the sales team for the Air Force. Its all about making the quota. Good video Kyle.
I've been in the airforce almost 4 years and all this information is accurate. However, one thing to consider when joining for college is that you receive 4500 dollars of TA(tuition assistance) each year to go toward the price of your college classes. Any classes in excess of the 4500 will have to be paid for out of pocket, or with your GI bill. You have 100% access to your GI bill after you do half of your enlistment (please double check the ''access'' thing on the internet, cause I'm only 90% sure). In my case, i signed for 6 years and will have my college almost completely paid for by TA around the time I get out. Then I have my GI bill at my disposal for a masters degree. Just some food for thought in case kyle didn't already address this in another video (Great Videos by the way, I wish I had this guidance before I joined.)
Andrew Dove-Rivers how many classes can you take given your schedule? I thought he mentioned only two classes per semester?
Yea I signed a 6 and I’m almost done with my first year. Ima use my ta to get my bachelors then when I get out ima use my hazelwood act for my masters so if u enlist in tx don’t be too quick to use that gi bill
Andrew Dove-Rivers question I get free college for two years , should I knock out my AA first, then go to air force so they can pay for my Bachelors?
Mss.Holmes makes the most sense plus u could probably get ur ccaf with the credits from ur aa which jus puts u that much more ahead
Yes, this is why I did 6. I finished my BA in my first enlistment (and I joined at 17 straight after graduating HS. I decided to reenlist and am completing my Master's now. Been in going on 8 years. My son has my GI bill now.
I scored a 70 on the asvab just sworn in last week. Thanks for the tips! Now just waiting on a job. Air Force bound 🙌🏼
How is it? Im thinking of joining
@@SalLifevlog I took it in school and it's pretty easy on the math part for me and along with the science part, had difficulty on the mechanics part , I ended up scoring a 70
Lol I like how we all got a 70
@@NCRRanger16 I got an 85 on the asvab, once I finish high school I'm hoping of joining in and becoming a linguist
how’d it go?
Just in case anyone is wondering (because I was) if you sign a 6-year contract with a guaranteed AFSC like Spec Ops/ATC and then wash out, you're keeping that 6-year contract regardless of your reassigned AFSC.
DC3893 yes. Source currently in and buddy just had the same thing happen
Is electrical engineering a 6 year contract? I want to join but I'm not that knowledgeable and am trying to learn a bit before talking to a recruiter.
ryan dravinski Virtually any job can be done on a 4 year contract, except for the ones that require really long training periods, like special operations and such. And maintenance jobs, like yours, don't fall into that category.
I’m 16 and very interested in the Air Force. I’m so lucky that so many people like you make these informative videos so ik whats true and what isn’t. Thank you for the insight.
@Prank ster Why you say that?^ why army and not air force? i want someone to lay it out also why air force and not army. thanks in advance
chevylover891 I don’t think he knows anything and just commented that for no reason
Actually you have no idea if what this person is saying is true or not. He’s giving you his experience at a certain point in time and things do change. Honestly as a retired Soldier and former recruiter, most of these videos are crap.
My husband never lies when he was a recruiter because it was someone kids life on the line and now our son is in the Airforce and his recruiter was great!
gotta say it's awesome to see Kyle being so real like this instead of just speaking the blue. half way through my own contract. respect brother, your videos are awesome
I was a six year enlistee, at age 17. I made E-3 at the end of BMT. I was selected for SrA BTZ (below the zone), at 18 months. This is E-4. I tested for SSgt, and scored high enough to be promoted at the end of the "B" cycle. I was 20 when I sewed on SSgt...one of the youngest SSgt's in Air Force history.
I dicked around and took 8 years total to make Tech, and made MSgt first time testing. 10 years 9 months sewed it on...then sat. Didn't make Senior until over 18. Tested SIX TIMES for Senior. Said screw this, retired with 20 years 23 days TAFMS.
Eight years to sew on Tech isn't bad.@@dennissvitak148
About #2, they say that because after getting your first base, you have a higher chance of PCSing overseas with the retainability unless you're willing to extend/reenlist. It's their way of bending the truth.
BUT those two classes you are allowed to take at a time, you can use TA, not pay a dime out of pocket and not have to touch your GI Bill. My husband is working on his second degree and has yet to touch his GI Bill and is also working on nursing classes.
I always hear people also say x civilian job pays 2 times as much on the outside or it pays more on the outside. Something to consider with that as well is the cost of living. Housing, utilities, and other bills. Military pays a decent amount. You won't get rich. But in all honesty when you factor in rent and "civilian bills" vs what the military provides for you its not that much of a difference I have found. Your looking at 60k+ to begin to make more on the outside... If you can make more then 60k a year you'll be making more.
For real. My husband is getting out this year and i know the switch from military to civilian is gonna be hard so ive decided to join
Health insurance
Tax exemptions
wenll it depends on what the civilian job is. If you’re Services, you’ll get marketable skills for fast food or working as an attendant at a fitness club unless you want to be a sous or executive chef putting in your best for culinary skills, work in the federal service as a wage grade cook, or make a career and get a federal job at the Services Activity. Contracting or IT, you can almost write your own ticket for a good job after serving 4 years and without a degree, Security Forces will get you a modest GS-6 job as a civilian cop on base, medical will get you low paying EMT or medical assistant jobs unless you want to further your education and be a nurse or PA, communications is complicated, I don’t know, CE will get you a nice union tradesman job or federal job, munitions will get you a civilian job on base, admin will get you a job as a secretary, whatever I left out, I don’t know. Bottom line is unless you have at least a 4 year degree, federal service is the best you can do post-military.
BUT, for those of you wanting to get out, please consider this: a guaranteed paycheck every 2 weeks, opportunity to travel the world for free, almost free education, and 30 days paid leave a year. Oh and free medical and dental.
also you need licenses in the civilian world... like A&P, anything medical, others (even pilot) (!) Licenses cost $$. Jobs are ot guaranteed. Military experience counts for suat in the real world.
You should be a recruiter
He really should
He would be AMAZING as a recruiter. I'm watching this thinking "bro... get into recruiting command on the double." He would rock.
It would be nice, but they have to make a quota to live. That's the reason they tell their "lies" in the first place. Tell them something that is technically true, but mostly false based on your specific situation.
They wouldn’t allow that because he’ll tell the truth
He answers that at 16:49
“Yes, six years is longer than four years.” Hahahahahahha! That’s hilarious
I was told signing a 6 year contract is more likely to attract the dependa than a 4
You just go in with one like me, that way you get BAH all while youre in tech school and even BMT
attract what?
No
I will soon be meeting my recruiter for the Air National Guard I'm glad I saw your video before I met them to start the process of going into the Air National Guard.
"They don't really like you taking more than two classes at a time" - False, this completely depends on you. If your supervision can tell classes are effecting your job performance. They can restrict your classes down but I know several Airman who were able to take 2,3,or 4 classes at a time and manage. It is all about the individual. However, if you are denied TA(Tuition Assistance) you still can use GI Bill while serving as active duty. Your supervision can not deny that from you.
Overall great and accurate video.
Jordan Thompson how do you qualify for TA while you’re enlisted already? How do you get denied?
Your first priority is to the military. Everything else is secondary.
Try to get over continually kicking yourself in the arse for making the mistake of signing up for 4 vs 6--use the extra energy and continuing paycheck & benefits to plan your transition into civilianhood. The time will fly by and you'll soon be on the other side of the fence with access to all those high-salary, high-benefit, low-stress jobs out here.
Don't EVER sign an Open contract. Went Open General hoping for Security Forces and got stuck with Services. Wouldn't have it any other way since I love job.
Love your videos, Vision. Giving great insight to our future Airmen.
I am going in with such low expectations bro 😂😂😂 I'm like "y'all giving me free food and a place to live??? Sheeeeesh sign me up" 😂 I make no money so making any money I'm like "this is niiiiiice" lol
deadass I’m 22 and dead broke I ship oct it’s kinda fun when you finally prioritize things I need af a good opportunity man I wanna grind get my life straight
When I signed my contract at MEPS, I asked the difference between 4 and 6 years and he said there’s almost no difference. He said some jobs and some pay are different and that’s it. So I picked 6 just in case 🤷🏼♀️
Would I be able to do it with asthma?
@@davidb6722 no
This video should be called 4-6 year contracts and the lies and misconceptions that your recruiters give you
woah man! I am so glad I watched this. I just took the AFOQT to pursue commissioning as a civilian, and I was told if I don't get accepted then I can sign a 6 year and have a better chance at getting in while enlisted. definitely going to keep what you said in mind.
Seriously, thank you so much for making this video. I've been having a difficult time debating on whether I wanted to join or not, and what branch...thank you for your service, and this video!
Did you join?
Helps a lot because I'm going into the Air Force Reserves! Thank gosh that I found this video
I don’t want to be lied too! 🤦🏾♀️
Can you make a video talking about the types of jobs that allow for the most travel.
Thanks Kyle you've helped more than anyone has, even people in the airforce currently! I am going through basic this February and will post a video on the update.
For young guys, a 4 year route might be true to get your degree. For some others, who have kids, and want to pass on their degree, staying in as long as possible and using the T.A. to get your degree is the best way to stack up success for you and your off spring.
TA?
Solo Sopranoh tuition assistance
I was always told to get it in writing on the contract before you sign. That way if they try to say they can't you can point to the contract and do all you have to to put their feet to the fire.
I’m so glad I watched your videos before joining the Air Force. I’m about to speak to a recruiter in the next couple of days. Now I know what to expect and be able to know the truth of what he tells me and if it’s not. I want to finish nursing as soon as possible but I was worried about how expensive the school’s going to be that’s why I’m still deciding if I should join or not. Thank you so much for making this video! I’ve subscribed and I’m hoping to see you make more videos. 😊😊💙
I'm thinking of joining the AF. This video was informative. Thank you! I'm trying to get as informed as I can before I make any decisions!
I joined the USAF in 1988 and my recruiter was straight up with me and she even wrote me a couple letters when i was in BMT.
I went and did as much research as I possibly could, and then I went into the recruiter to hear him say what I already looked up.
"Where the H*ck are my 50,000 dollars?" lol😂... thanks for the info kylie
There was an MD in the 80s that signed a 4 year contract. He agreed to go anywhere for 1st 2 years. His contract said second 2 years at Ft Sam burn center. The Army wouldn’t allow it. He sued. The Army wasn’t going to be bound by some contract! They discharged him rather than set the precedent that you could sue over your contract and win.
One big thing to also consider is re-enlistment bonus's. So while you may not get one or may get a small one see what the re-enlistment bonus's are. For example intel. When I re-enlisted I got 60,000 dollars....half of that tax free and up front since I was deployed when i did it. If I had signed for 4 years I could have gotten it sooner. However at the same time 2 years sooner and I wouldnt have been deployed to get it tax free. So consider the timing of it all in terms of do you want to stay in and re-enlist and if you do is there a sign on bonus? If there is 4 year may be the way to go so you can get to re-enlistment sooner then go for the 6 years. :)
I worked in a non military government position in the Barnes Building in Boston. The MEPS reception area was on the floor that the cafeteria was on. It was fun watching the recruiters form each service circling like sharks trying to steal the recruits.
Kyle you should be a recruiter just saying
That's funny my recruiter just told me that if you want to go overseas you should sign for 6 years. Appreciate your videos and thank you for your service.
Hey Kyle. I'm a big fan of your videos. Recently, I found out that my cousin will be getting married in November of this year in Las Vegas. It would be such an honor and privilege to meet you in person.
Wish we hv watched this before my son had signed the 6 yrs. Contract... He's now taking the BMT.... I shared this video i hope he'll get to watch it before he leaves boot camp.
Thank You so much Kyle for giving Alot of information and letting every one know what's good and what's wrong in the military my daughter will be joining in two years after she graduates high school I've been following you for a long time and you are really great at what you do not to many people go on TH-cam and give the right information but your great please keep making more Air Force videos me and my daughter are we very interested in it Thank you once again for being honest love ya 💖😊👍
Kyle Gott, do not separate completely. Go "palace chase" if you dead set on getting out of active duty! Great video.
When you sign up for any branch you're obligated to a 8 year contract !!!! You can still sign up for 4,6 or 8 year doesn't matter just that you are sent to inactive reserve status once you exit from active duty.
until the army signs you into a 2 year infantry contract
You got me with the handy dandy notebook 😂😂 I liked and subscribe right away. Thanks for making this video man 😁👍🏼
There's no incentive for recruiters to get recruits to sign 6 years, I'm not sure why they would lie, current air Force recruiter
@Noah Rodriguez-Beus they have a list of jobs that each recruiter has to reserve a job for their applicants using a draft system.
My Recrutier says he can’t guarantee a job I want even if I get the score on the asvab, is this true ? And if it is could Recruiters tell you if the job has availability so I have a better chance of getting it?
It's worth noting that some jobs requiring 6 year contracts also require a year in tech school. So even if you don't like the job 1 year of it is spent in tech school anyway so it's only a years difference.
What kind of videos do you plan on making after the Air Force??
xXuknowhoitisXx hahaha
Shayd Warr he started blogging with Makena. so I think they'll go along with that.
Another good thing about the Air Guard... you get your GI bill and state Tuition reimbursement.
Simple
Get guaranteed a job! Got to Bmt . Go to tech school. Finish your CDC’s. Then start taking college classes online or at a school if you have that opportunity. I was able to get my bachelors degree and roll into the reserves and finish my time! couldn’t have been happier. Go USAF!
Guy, if you're 'slaving' for any days of the week, you either have an assy CoC, or you're doing it wrong.
My shop was wicked cool. I had a blast doing what I did.
Then again, I left in '13, so YMMV.
Awesome video battle! HOOAH! It's great that you're helping a lot of people out!
Ericka Bernie hey there
Ericka Bernie im in the army lets chat on your video I'm a mechanic what s ur job?
I wanna go guard or reserve and I'm trying see what is best for me and my family.
I'm thinking about joining the Air Force and this video was really informative. Thank you! (:
So what was your decision
Did you join?
you join
Did you do it?
I saw when the video was posted. So I went off the 2016 pay chart the exact numbers would have been $4834.4. However, it’s a lot more now. But you are correct not much of a difference.
You can cross train if the position you are going to is under manned. I cross trained into Helicopter Flight Engineer(Aircrew Mission Specialist now). The process was actually pretty easy, but that was back in 01-02. Might be harder now. Back then it also required a 6 year reenlistment
The GI bill is "36 months" which translates to 9 months for two semesters a year
One job that Kyle missed is my job: 1N431 Fusion Analyst. I have a mandatory 6-year. Yay, me. Thank you for your service, Kyle.
Hey, was being a fusion analyst your first choice? That's what my goal is, so not sure if I can get into the profession without enlisting.
You're eyes are gorgeous I kept losing focus; thanks for vids they're very informative! I have considered joining even special Ops 😬
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im still confused why you dont have one million subscribers
because her murdered them all. remember? its because marines are so tuff and cool.
Also u don't need to subscribe to watch the videos. He prob has alot of viewers that don't hit the subscribe button. I used to be like that with a bunch of channels, but now I like receiving the channel notifications.
+ARMY Chris I miss how he would always be more interactive... like we would see the base... see daily life in the military... drive to different places... now it's mostly him standing in front of the wall and talking
Randy Rodriguez cause there is not a million people interested in the Air Force
He's good but he has a specific lane. But its very helpful for those trying to get to where he is
You'll go to a nice warm place for boot camp in the dead of winter when you join the Navy.. 😂 The shores of Lake Michigan in February is downright balmy no doubt especially during a blazzard. 😮
Love your videos but you're wrong about civilians making more. I'm an Air Reserve Technician but I make less than you do as a SSgt. Even though your W-2 says you only make about 30-40k a year, it doesn't include your BAH, BAS, and free healthcare. We don't get any of that and pay for our own healthcare. So you're really making 60-65k when I make 59k. Being a civilian/reservist is a lot better than active IMO and recommend you look into it rather than getting out completely. Just a thought.
People always neglect compensation packages and benefits. Thank you for calling this out!
i agree. he should do that.
TSgt Big Swole I'm in the reserves to I thought we get dental care and health care??
XxS1l3nTxa1Mx you get the free healthcare when you're on orders or are on your UTA weekend. As an ART we have to pay for our own insurance.
Big Swole I agree. Go reserve after. I'm also a reservist. It's been great so far.
You can go into the air national guard when your halfway through your enlistment.
BEST VIDEO ON THE INTERNET! THANK YOU! 🧠💯💪🏾🇺🇸
When I first enlisted, this is April 75, I was making like 70 dollars a week, when I got in, I made 75 dollars a week. Free room, board, clothes and medical. I enlisted initially for 4 years and guaranteed job as an SP. That was the only lie my recruiter told me was that SP was the same as an LE. Law enforcement. Got to my first duty station, MInot AFB ND. While I am humping a buff in minus 60 temps. LE's for the most part were driving around in blue and white K cars from Dodge. When I found out about the 6 year enlistment and I would get two stripes out of basic, I went down and did a 6 year enlistment after that. Ending up making it a career and no regrets. And I am sure at the time, you made this video, pay is based on Time in service and rank. Never heard about the difficulty when re-enlisting as an initial 4 year enlistee. If you want to re-enlist, you just arrange it in time for it to happen. I got re-enlisted by the Sec of the Air Force Aldridge while in flight enroute to Guam.
knock out all of your generals during your time in service. once you get out, you will receive 4 years of free college from the GI Bill. the GI Bill only covers a junior degree, such as an associates or bachelors. you cannot use it for a masters+.
Your videos make me happy and they are sooooo effin helpful. I was considering the army and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna try for the Air Force since I have the ASVAB score.
I take issue with you saying you get paid more on the outside. When you are in, your housing, medical/dental, uniforms are all free. This is HUGE in the real world. Also, it’s the ONLY place you can start in a specialized field with zero prior experience. You can’t just walk up to work on planes in the civilian world.
I was a medic. I was trained as a nurse. I passed meds, started IVs and did many dressing changes. In the civilian world, I’d need 4 yr degree before I could give one drug or band-aid.
So, you are need to remember- you get much more than just a base pay & you get to bypass prior work experience needed for many jobs in the civilian world.
Love your videos Kyle! They are always so informative and entertaining! Keep up the great work!
I died at 12:32. Thanks for these videos man
AF recruiter here. "My recruiter lied to me" has two sides of the story always remember that. I had a few kids who contacted me after boot camp about something benefit wise that they thought they would receive. Goods kids, but it annoyed the stuff out of me. Why? Because 10 out of 10 times I briefed them about what they were asking before they went to MEPS and signed their contract, they just practiced selective hearing excellently.
can u do a video about the medical field in the air force please
I think the 50k thing is in reference to if you sign 6 years you get e3 right after basic, and make more money.
I didn't even think about that, but quick head calculation here, I'm not sure it would be 50000 more.
I did 6yrs as security forces hated it, glorified mall security...
Dennis Morris u getting paid good by being a mall cop?
I leave in 5 days for BMT! According to what you said, the only lie I was told was "If I sign a 4 year, I can't re enlist." I signed my 4 year today! I'm excited! Going in with open mechanical!
How is it?
3 years now how is it
@@bradleymuha4861 I was randomly looking through my old comments and I saw this! I get out in 3 months. I'm a crew chief for the F-15 and it's been rough. It was good in a sense that I got to meet new people and travel a lot. It's also cool to say I work on fighter jets. But I'm ready for something new. I'm just tired of the environment and I miss my freedom.
They told me the least I can do in the reserves is 6 years, ik they gotta be lying!
kyle gott it is now a 2,500 dollar signing bonus and you get half after tech school and the rest rolls into your pay. I just signed a 6 year this past Thursday
glad I heard that before I ship out
I just came back from talking to an Air Force recruiter .. shoulda watched this before 😂
On the education I actually would say your wrong on....partially. So yes you can get out and go to college full time. However it lasts only 36 months or 3 years. So what you need to actually do is plan. What degree do you want? Where do you want to go? How long will it take you? If you can knock it out in about 3 years then yes do the 4 years. of military. However if your wanting a masters or maybe wanting your degree while saving your gi bill for a family member Id advise going to school while in the military as much as you can so 6 would be better. Last thing you want is to be going to school full time and then final semester or so have to pay out of pocket. Or maybe you'd rather do that then have another 2 years in. Just plan it out.
Just like to quickly point out that there are two separate selection boards for active duty enlisted and for civilians when applying for OTS but statistically more civilians are accepted than enlisted in the past.
Huh. I'm kind of glad I signed for four years now.
I had an 18-month assigment in Turkey. Before I was short, the AF offered me an assignment in England. The catch was I would go to advaced tech school for three months in MA, and extend 10 months to get the England assignment. I didn't bite the carrot, but I got the tech school and England assigment anyway without extending.
Every one seems to be happy to get out of the military. Making me think it's not even worth it to go in. I've heard of embrace the suck and everything but my dad said he really enjoyed his time in the military.
Shane Griffin Every military person's experience is different, TH-cam provides a platform for those who are disillusioned by anything (military, makeup, bad relationships, TH-cam subscriber policies) to vent. It's true that the military experience is, more times than not, appreciated more in hindsight. In the military--as in life--the crappy things will pass if you CHOOSE not to hang on to them and allow them to drag you down. You'll tend to find more 'disillusioned ' military folks on TH-cam. Those who aren't are spending their free time going to college; working out; traveling; working on their hobbies; spending time with friends & family and doing so without a camera attached to their arm.
The vast majority of people, regardless of the branch they join or their job, get out after their first enlistment. Very, very few people make it all the way to 20 years, and that's for a variety of reasons. My husband is planning on getting out after his first enlistment, and although I have a feeling he'll be extremely happy to get out, I think he'll also look back on his time in and be thankful for the opportunities. He doesn't regret joining at all, but after 6 years, sometimes you just need a change of pace.
Shane Griffin , don't let anyone's personal experience ruin it for you. I joined and been in for a couple years and plan on being in for 20.
Shane Griffin , it's all about what you make of it. Just like everything else in life nothing is going to be perfect and you'll have some bad days and some good .
+Jason - Good for you bro! Smart move! I got out of AD early, so I could go to the Air Guard and go to school. Bad move! I should have been smarter...finish my 20 years, see some of the world, and get my pension in 20 years! I screwed up (by getting out early) and I regret it every day of not staying in and completing my 20 years AD! You sound like a smart dude Jason. I wish I was smart back then...because I would have stayed in! Best of luck to you bro!
You can sign a 4 year contract to be any of the spec op jobs you won't get the bonus like he said in the video but I would say it's better
I was told if I sign a six year contract I will get better benefits and more money than if I would sign a four year. I was thinking about joining the national guard so if I sign a six year, four out of those six years would be spent in college. Any thoughts?
"and make bank" - my favorite quote from this video