Yeah, but when you're making twice as much as a civilian you have to pay for housing, food, health insurance etc. So in reality, you're not making much more.
Grizz that’s what happens when he only has experience from the military side of things. You’re right! Wait till he finds out how much health care costs for a family!
The thing I loved with my recruiter is he kept it real and genuine and didnt Force you into anything. When I talked with the marines, I felt like I was getting forced into it
yuh they might be more annoying they act nicer i ain even met the army recruiter in person i just need to get this diploma online im prolly goin to go army marines might take longer from what the army rc said
When I talked to the Marine recruiter I told him I could not float or swim. There was so much hate in his eyes I could hardly wait to get out of there. I eventually learned how to swim.
If education is their main goal, I agree that 4 year contract is the way to go but remain in the Active Reserves the next 2 years and then Inactive Reserves the last 2 years. That way, you only go one weekend a month and two weeks a year; giving you some extra money while you're in school.
Thought I would add, doing 6 years allows me to actually finish a bachelors degree while 4 wouldn't have. And now I can use my GI bill on a Masters Degree.
I signed a 4 year contract myself and then left active duty April 15,2017 and now im a full time student in Texas. It has been amazing. Zero dollar's for school is the most amazing feeling, And im collecting a housing allowance/food allowance :)
@@Joe-mp1de only way i would recommend you get a 6 year contract would be if the field you are wanting to go into, you would need 5+ years of experience. other than that, i would say 4 year is better completely. retrain at 3 years instead of 5, 2 less years of military commitment, you can get a resign bonus after your 4 year contract if you want to extend your commitment.
All you need to know about recruiting, is to get a GUARANTEED job, when you sign the dotted line. In Basic, they told me my guaranteed job was no longer available, and I called their bluff. Amazingly, my job opened back up. Stick to your guns. GET A GUARANTEED JOB.
How do you get a job guaranteed? I want to be a Cryptologic Language Analyst, and my recruiter keeps telling me that she can't guarantee me a job. Please tell me where I can learn more ablut this!! Thank you!
Salary as a civilian vs a military is similar. The military needs to be competitive to keep their personnel. If you know you'll make more money as a civilian the less likely for someone to join. Your military benefits package needs to be factored into your salary because believe it or not it is very significant.
It would be nice, but they have to make a quota to live. That's the reason they tell their "lies" in the first place. Tell them something that is technically true, but mostly false based on your specific situation.
I've been in the airforce almost 4 years and all this information is accurate. However, one thing to consider when joining for college is that you receive 4500 dollars of TA(tuition assistance) each year to go toward the price of your college classes. Any classes in excess of the 4500 will have to be paid for out of pocket, or with your GI bill. You have 100% access to your GI bill after you do half of your enlistment (please double check the ''access'' thing on the internet, cause I'm only 90% sure). In my case, i signed for 6 years and will have my college almost completely paid for by TA around the time I get out. Then I have my GI bill at my disposal for a masters degree. Just some food for thought in case kyle didn't already address this in another video (Great Videos by the way, I wish I had this guidance before I joined.)
Yea I signed a 6 and I’m almost done with my first year. Ima use my ta to get my bachelors then when I get out ima use my hazelwood act for my masters so if u enlist in tx don’t be too quick to use that gi bill
Yes, this is why I did 6. I finished my BA in my first enlistment (and I joined at 17 straight after graduating HS. I decided to reenlist and am completing my Master's now. Been in going on 8 years. My son has my GI bill now.
I absolutely love this. As a retired (24yr.) Capt. with 14 yrs. of stripes, 11 yrs. overseas, 2.5 in RVN. Came in with an IBM Wiring Operator's License (1966) and left with an MBA in Info Systems (worked on everything from punched cards to fiber optics). This young man speaks the ABSOLUTE truth.
My husband has a great recruiter now. I'm so glad I found your channel though. You've answered so many of my questions that I haven't gotten to ask the recruiter yet! Air Force is sounding more and more good for our family.
I always hear people also say x civilian job pays 2 times as much on the outside or it pays more on the outside. Something to consider with that as well is the cost of living. Housing, utilities, and other bills. Military pays a decent amount. You won't get rich. But in all honesty when you factor in rent and "civilian bills" vs what the military provides for you its not that much of a difference I have found. Your looking at 60k+ to begin to make more on the outside... If you can make more then 60k a year you'll be making more.
wenll it depends on what the civilian job is. If you’re Services, you’ll get marketable skills for fast food or working as an attendant at a fitness club unless you want to be a sous or executive chef putting in your best for culinary skills, work in the federal service as a wage grade cook, or make a career and get a federal job at the Services Activity. Contracting or IT, you can almost write your own ticket for a good job after serving 4 years and without a degree, Security Forces will get you a modest GS-6 job as a civilian cop on base, medical will get you low paying EMT or medical assistant jobs unless you want to further your education and be a nurse or PA, communications is complicated, I don’t know, CE will get you a nice union tradesman job or federal job, munitions will get you a civilian job on base, admin will get you a job as a secretary, whatever I left out, I don’t know. Bottom line is unless you have at least a 4 year degree, federal service is the best you can do post-military. BUT, for those of you wanting to get out, please consider this: a guaranteed paycheck every 2 weeks, opportunity to travel the world for free, almost free education, and 30 days paid leave a year. Oh and free medical and dental.
also you need licenses in the civilian world... like A&P, anything medical, others (even pilot) (!) Licenses cost $$. Jobs are ot guaranteed. Military experience counts for suat in the real world.
@@SalLifevlog I took it in school and it's pretty easy on the math part for me and along with the science part, had difficulty on the mechanics part , I ended up scoring a 70
I’m 16 and very interested in the Air Force. I’m so lucky that so many people like you make these informative videos so ik whats true and what isn’t. Thank you for the insight.
Actually you have no idea if what this person is saying is true or not. He’s giving you his experience at a certain point in time and things do change. Honestly as a retired Soldier and former recruiter, most of these videos are crap.
Just in case anyone is wondering (because I was) if you sign a 6-year contract with a guaranteed AFSC like Spec Ops/ATC and then wash out, you're keeping that 6-year contract regardless of your reassigned AFSC.
ryan dravinski Virtually any job can be done on a 4 year contract, except for the ones that require really long training periods, like special operations and such. And maintenance jobs, like yours, don't fall into that category.
"Make sure you tie your boots right! I'll make a video about it. On the military bunks, its better to sleep on your back. I'll make a video about that. After you get out and you want to start making youtube videos...i'll make a video about that too"
BUT those two classes you are allowed to take at a time, you can use TA, not pay a dime out of pocket and not have to touch your GI Bill. My husband is working on his second degree and has yet to touch his GI Bill and is also working on nursing classes.
I was a six year enlistee, at age 17. I made E-3 at the end of BMT. I was selected for SrA BTZ (below the zone), at 18 months. This is E-4. I tested for SSgt, and scored high enough to be promoted at the end of the "B" cycle. I was 20 when I sewed on SSgt...one of the youngest SSgt's in Air Force history.
I dicked around and took 8 years total to make Tech, and made MSgt first time testing. 10 years 9 months sewed it on...then sat. Didn't make Senior until over 18. Tested SIX TIMES for Senior. Said screw this, retired with 20 years 23 days TAFMS.
gotta say it's awesome to see Kyle being so real like this instead of just speaking the blue. half way through my own contract. respect brother, your videos are awesome
My husband never lies when he was a recruiter because it was someone kids life on the line and now our son is in the Airforce and his recruiter was great!
Try to get over continually kicking yourself in the arse for making the mistake of signing up for 4 vs 6--use the extra energy and continuing paycheck & benefits to plan your transition into civilianhood. The time will fly by and you'll soon be on the other side of the fence with access to all those high-salary, high-benefit, low-stress jobs out here.
"They don't really like you taking more than two classes at a time" - False, this completely depends on you. If your supervision can tell classes are effecting your job performance. They can restrict your classes down but I know several Airman who were able to take 2,3,or 4 classes at a time and manage. It is all about the individual. However, if you are denied TA(Tuition Assistance) you still can use GI Bill while serving as active duty. Your supervision can not deny that from you. Overall great and accurate video.
About #2, they say that because after getting your first base, you have a higher chance of PCSing overseas with the retainability unless you're willing to extend/reenlist. It's their way of bending the truth.
I will soon be meeting my recruiter for the Air National Guard I'm glad I saw your video before I met them to start the process of going into the Air National Guard.
Don't EVER sign an Open contract. Went Open General hoping for Security Forces and got stuck with Services. Wouldn't have it any other way since I love job. Love your videos, Vision. Giving great insight to our future Airmen.
woah man! I am so glad I watched this. I just took the AFOQT to pursue commissioning as a civilian, and I was told if I don't get accepted then I can sign a 6 year and have a better chance at getting in while enlisted. definitely going to keep what you said in mind.
I was always told to get it in writing on the contract before you sign. That way if they try to say they can't you can point to the contract and do all you have to to put their feet to the fire.
One big thing to also consider is re-enlistment bonus's. So while you may not get one or may get a small one see what the re-enlistment bonus's are. For example intel. When I re-enlisted I got 60,000 dollars....half of that tax free and up front since I was deployed when i did it. If I had signed for 4 years I could have gotten it sooner. However at the same time 2 years sooner and I wouldnt have been deployed to get it tax free. So consider the timing of it all in terms of do you want to stay in and re-enlist and if you do is there a sign on bonus? If there is 4 year may be the way to go so you can get to re-enlistment sooner then go for the 6 years. :)
When I signed my contract at MEPS, I asked the difference between 4 and 6 years and he said there’s almost no difference. He said some jobs and some pay are different and that’s it. So I picked 6 just in case 🤷🏼♀️
For young guys, a 4 year route might be true to get your degree. For some others, who have kids, and want to pass on their degree, staying in as long as possible and using the T.A. to get your degree is the best way to stack up success for you and your off spring.
Seriously, thank you so much for making this video. I've been having a difficult time debating on whether I wanted to join or not, and what branch...thank you for your service, and this video!
Thanks Kyle you've helped more than anyone has, even people in the airforce currently! I am going through basic this February and will post a video on the update.
My Recrutier says he can’t guarantee a job I want even if I get the score on the asvab, is this true ? And if it is could Recruiters tell you if the job has availability so I have a better chance of getting it?
I’m so glad I watched your videos before joining the Air Force. I’m about to speak to a recruiter in the next couple of days. Now I know what to expect and be able to know the truth of what he tells me and if it’s not. I want to finish nursing as soon as possible but I was worried about how expensive the school’s going to be that’s why I’m still deciding if I should join or not. Thank you so much for making this video! I’ve subscribed and I’m hoping to see you make more videos. 😊😊💙
There was an MD in the 80s that signed a 4 year contract. He agreed to go anywhere for 1st 2 years. His contract said second 2 years at Ft Sam burn center. The Army wouldn’t allow it. He sued. The Army wasn’t going to be bound by some contract! They discharged him rather than set the precedent that you could sue over your contract and win.
When I first enlisted, this is April 75, I was making like 70 dollars a week, when I got in, I made 75 dollars a week. Free room, board, clothes and medical. I enlisted initially for 4 years and guaranteed job as an SP. That was the only lie my recruiter told me was that SP was the same as an LE. Law enforcement. Got to my first duty station, MInot AFB ND. While I am humping a buff in minus 60 temps. LE's for the most part were driving around in blue and white K cars from Dodge. When I found out about the 6 year enlistment and I would get two stripes out of basic, I went down and did a 6 year enlistment after that. Ending up making it a career and no regrets. And I am sure at the time, you made this video, pay is based on Time in service and rank. Never heard about the difficulty when re-enlisting as an initial 4 year enlistee. If you want to re-enlist, you just arrange it in time for it to happen. I got re-enlisted by the Sec of the Air Force Aldridge while in flight enroute to Guam.
When you sign up for any branch you're obligated to a 8 year contract !!!! You can still sign up for 4,6 or 8 year doesn't matter just that you are sent to inactive reserve status once you exit from active duty.
I saw when the video was posted. So I went off the 2016 pay chart the exact numbers would have been $4834.4. However, it’s a lot more now. But you are correct not much of a difference.
knock out all of your generals during your time in service. once you get out, you will receive 4 years of free college from the GI Bill. the GI Bill only covers a junior degree, such as an associates or bachelors. you cannot use it for a masters+.
I worked in a non military government position in the Barnes Building in Boston. The MEPS reception area was on the floor that the cafeteria was on. It was fun watching the recruiters form each service circling like sharks trying to steal the recruits.
Love your videos but you're wrong about civilians making more. I'm an Air Reserve Technician but I make less than you do as a SSgt. Even though your W-2 says you only make about 30-40k a year, it doesn't include your BAH, BAS, and free healthcare. We don't get any of that and pay for our own healthcare. So you're really making 60-65k when I make 59k. Being a civilian/reservist is a lot better than active IMO and recommend you look into it rather than getting out completely. Just a thought.
Wish we hv watched this before my son had signed the 6 yrs. Contract... He's now taking the BMT.... I shared this video i hope he'll get to watch it before he leaves boot camp.
Thank You so much Kyle for giving Alot of information and letting every one know what's good and what's wrong in the military my daughter will be joining in two years after she graduates high school I've been following you for a long time and you are really great at what you do not to many people go on TH-cam and give the right information but your great please keep making more Air Force videos me and my daughter are we very interested in it Thank you once again for being honest love ya 💖😊👍
I was a recruiter back in the day. Even if i wanted to it was pretty hard to lie to recruits. Someone who signs up is going to end up in your Delayed Enlistment Program for up to 12 months. They are going to find out at some point if you are lying and then confront you on it. That would be quite embarrasing. Not sure what the emphasis is here on 4 or 6 yr enlistments. I could care less if someone signed up for 4 or 6. It had no impact on my job. His civilian pay vs military pay comparison is kind of wonky too. While it may be true that he makes twice as much as an airman, if he had stayed in and got promoted his pay would have eventually went up a lot more. Also he is not taking into consideration the retirement pension. As a retired enlisted after twenty years I have made close to $2800 a month pension since 2000. That is money I get for the rest of my life every month including a raise every year. I also got a contractor job after I got out that pays a lot, so I ma what you call double dipping. On top of that my Tricare health insurance is only $600 a year. He doesn't receive any of that if he got out after 4 years. Chances are his health insurance is a lot more than $600 a year. Air force was the best thing i ever did.
On the education I actually would say your wrong on....partially. So yes you can get out and go to college full time. However it lasts only 36 months or 3 years. So what you need to actually do is plan. What degree do you want? Where do you want to go? How long will it take you? If you can knock it out in about 3 years then yes do the 4 years. of military. However if your wanting a masters or maybe wanting your degree while saving your gi bill for a family member Id advise going to school while in the military as much as you can so 6 would be better. Last thing you want is to be going to school full time and then final semester or so have to pay out of pocket. Or maybe you'd rather do that then have another 2 years in. Just plan it out.
It's worth noting that some jobs requiring 6 year contracts also require a year in tech school. So even if you don't like the job 1 year of it is spent in tech school anyway so it's only a years difference.
Hey Kyle. I'm a big fan of your videos. Recently, I found out that my cousin will be getting married in November of this year in Las Vegas. It would be such an honor and privilege to meet you in person.
THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME about the re-enlistment because I wanted to do 4 and they got me thinking about the 6 because they made it seem like I wouldn't be able to re-enlist with much chance to get accepted i leave this Tuesday (July 18) and now you made my mind, 4 year it is!
AF recruiter here. "My recruiter lied to me" has two sides of the story always remember that. I had a few kids who contacted me after boot camp about something benefit wise that they thought they would receive. Goods kids, but it annoyed the stuff out of me. Why? Because 10 out of 10 times I briefed them about what they were asking before they went to MEPS and signed their contract, they just practiced selective hearing excellently.
My recruiter gave me my job list and highlighted a select batch (a lot of 2As) basically he told me I had to pick 6 from the highlighted nd 2 of whichever I want. The highlighted weren’t my first picks but regardless, he convinced other people to obey him.
I take issue with you saying you get paid more on the outside. When you are in, your housing, medical/dental, uniforms are all free. This is HUGE in the real world. Also, it’s the ONLY place you can start in a specialized field with zero prior experience. You can’t just walk up to work on planes in the civilian world. I was a medic. I was trained as a nurse. I passed meds, started IVs and did many dressing changes. In the civilian world, I’d need 4 yr degree before I could give one drug or band-aid. So, you are need to remember- you get much more than just a base pay & you get to bypass prior work experience needed for many jobs in the civilian world.
Guy, if you're 'slaving' for any days of the week, you either have an assy CoC, or you're doing it wrong. My shop was wicked cool. I had a blast doing what I did. Then again, I left in '13, so YMMV.
Every one seems to be happy to get out of the military. Making me think it's not even worth it to go in. I've heard of embrace the suck and everything but my dad said he really enjoyed his time in the military.
Shane Griffin Every military person's experience is different, TH-cam provides a platform for those who are disillusioned by anything (military, makeup, bad relationships, TH-cam subscriber policies) to vent. It's true that the military experience is, more times than not, appreciated more in hindsight. In the military--as in life--the crappy things will pass if you CHOOSE not to hang on to them and allow them to drag you down. You'll tend to find more 'disillusioned ' military folks on TH-cam. Those who aren't are spending their free time going to college; working out; traveling; working on their hobbies; spending time with friends & family and doing so without a camera attached to their arm.
The vast majority of people, regardless of the branch they join or their job, get out after their first enlistment. Very, very few people make it all the way to 20 years, and that's for a variety of reasons. My husband is planning on getting out after his first enlistment, and although I have a feeling he'll be extremely happy to get out, I think he'll also look back on his time in and be thankful for the opportunities. He doesn't regret joining at all, but after 6 years, sometimes you just need a change of pace.
Shane Griffin , it's all about what you make of it. Just like everything else in life nothing is going to be perfect and you'll have some bad days and some good .
+Jason - Good for you bro! Smart move! I got out of AD early, so I could go to the Air Guard and go to school. Bad move! I should have been smarter...finish my 20 years, see some of the world, and get my pension in 20 years! I screwed up (by getting out early) and I regret it every day of not staying in and completing my 20 years AD! You sound like a smart dude Jason. I wish I was smart back then...because I would have stayed in! Best of luck to you bro!
The big thing for me with the 4 vs 6 year contract is promotion. I've seen some 6 year enlistees test and make SSgt before a 4 year enlistee even has a chance to test. It can be the difference down the line of making Chief but that is obviously a small percentage of people anyway. So the only real way a 6 year enlitee will make much more than a 4 year enlistee is if that individual really knew they were going for a career from the start.
You can cross train if the position you are going to is under manned. I cross trained into Helicopter Flight Engineer(Aircrew Mission Specialist now). The process was actually pretty easy, but that was back in 01-02. Might be harder now. Back then it also required a 6 year reenlistment
That's funny my recruiter just told me that if you want to go overseas you should sign for 6 years. Appreciate your videos and thank you for your service.
Simple Get guaranteed a job! Got to Bmt . Go to tech school. Finish your CDC’s. Then start taking college classes online or at a school if you have that opportunity. I was able to get my bachelors degree and roll into the reserves and finish my time! couldn’t have been happier. Go USAF!
The one thing that is different about pay from a civilian job an enlisted job is that when you're part of the AF, you receive BAH which is non-taxable. All of that is dependent on your zip code, but when you're paying for your own housing, the extra money isn't that beneficial. So that $45k becomes $36k-ish after taxes. Then your E-4 salary of $24,552 ($19,641-ish after taxes) with BAH could add 10-20k untaxed. So it's fairly equal depending on your career, obviously. Then don't think about the free benefits you get while in that will have to be paid for when you leave.
it also depends on your job. If you do maintenance jobs, like Kyle, you might work harder/more than other jobs in the air force. I have met very many people who love their jobs and have made great careers through the air force as well as some who would rather do something else. It is also what you make of it. Many people would rather have financial stability then "full" freedom.
Also u don't need to subscribe to watch the videos. He prob has alot of viewers that don't hit the subscribe button. I used to be like that with a bunch of channels, but now I like receiving the channel notifications.
+ARMY Chris I miss how he would always be more interactive... like we would see the base... see daily life in the military... drive to different places... now it's mostly him standing in front of the wall and talking
6 years for advanced training in navy.. electronics tech 2 years was training and 4 to serve.. and when you graduated from your initial schools you were a month or two away from e5 and EVERYONE graduated as e4.. a much better option than 4 years where you were lucky if you finished at e4 or 5.
So, I agree with some. But I think you do not have enough financial knowledge to speak on some of this. You have to consider more than just the paycheck when determining if you make more on the outside. For example, I net about 3600 a month as a 7 year staff where I currently live. If you calculate what the civilian gross would be to make that much, it would be 53,634. That doesn't even include the fact that I would also have to pay for health insurance now. Which is about $833 a month for a family plan in the US. So I'd need to gross at least around $65,000 to just maintain the lifestyle my family has with me being in. 6 years also does give you more benefits for education overall. I finished a BA in my first enlistment. Which left my GI Bill for my Master's (though I am just going to complete that with my TA and gave my GI Bill to my son anyways). Most recruiters bend the truth tremendously. They're not as false as you're laying them out to be, though. I'm not sure you have enough experience or knowledge on this to be doing these videos.
This video made me subscribe because I'm a junior in college right now. Majoring in finance and economics but I want to join so I'll go with 4 years instead of 6 because I see your point there.
@Julian Jackson I wasn't talking about OTS. OTS and ROTC are different things. It's much easier to get into the AF as an officer thru AFROTC rather than OTS.
It’s called a career job reservation or CJR. That’s not true my buddy was given the option retrain or get out due to his career field being over manned. So yes under manned you don’t have to worry about it. CJR is not required for 6 year contract. That’s why it’s a gamble and you as an individual need to research your job.
Your videos make me happy and they are sooooo effin helpful. I was considering the army and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna try for the Air Force since I have the ASVAB score.
Another incorrect statement doesn’t matter 4 or 6 year contract. If you want to go officer you only have to serve one year of active service. Now the catch to this is, If you signed a bonus that you keep preaching... now it makes you ineligible for the one year option to retrain officer. It states that in my contact. Moral of the the story don’t listen to people. Read your contracts! If you don’t know what your signing then don’t sign it!
You'll go to a nice warm place for boot camp in the dead of winter when you join the Navy.. 😂 The shores of Lake Michigan in February is downright balmy no doubt especially during a blazzard. 😮
I was told if I sign a six year contract I will get better benefits and more money than if I would sign a four year. I was thinking about joining the national guard so if I sign a six year, four out of those six years would be spent in college. Any thoughts?
I am Prior Navy on 18's, Got out and went to Contract for the Air Force at Eielson at the Aggressors making triple than what I did active duty, Thats not including my daily pay for showing up, and add atleast another $200 a day when TDY for them.
I agree that contractors typically make more than military members, but we get other benefits that add to our total annual salary. BAH, BAS, Primecare for you and your dependents and other things. I still think contractors will make more money but you still have to consider the amount of benefits we still get.. BAH alone can be anywhere from 1000-1500 per month roughly.
It's 2 am I'm not going to the military.i sould go to bed
Carter Howlett Lmfaooo
Same I get caught up on these videos
I feel this comment so much 🤣 currently 1:25 am lmao
Lmaooo
Omg lmfaoooo 💀
Yeah, but when you're making twice as much as a civilian you have to pay for housing, food, health insurance etc. So in reality, you're not making much more.
Grizz that’s what happens when he only has experience from the military side of things. You’re right! Wait till he finds out how much health care costs for a family!
joshua aguilar nightmare that youse don’t live In the uk
Hard-tradesmen are making bank though, especially plumbers, piperfitters, and HVAC technicians.
The thing I loved with my recruiter is he kept it real and genuine and didnt Force you into anything. When I talked with the marines, I felt like I was getting forced into it
yuh they might be more annoying they act nicer i ain even met the army recruiter in person i just need to get this diploma online im prolly goin to go army marines might take longer from what the army rc said
Marines challenge your manhood. That is their biggest recruiting tool.
Actually same. Kept me out when i was 18. They were trying to twist my arm like crazy lol
When I talked to the Marine recruiter I told him I could not float or swim. There was so much hate in his eyes I could hardly wait to get out of there. I eventually learned how to swim.
If education is their main goal, I agree that 4 year contract is the way to go but remain in the Active Reserves the next 2 years and then Inactive Reserves the last 2 years. That way, you only go one weekend a month and two weeks a year; giving you some extra money while you're in school.
Thats what lots of active people do, expect they just reenlist in the reserves
"Extra money" looool
Civilian contractors don't get health benefits.
How much more extra we talking?
@@jesusaragon718 ?
Thought I would add, doing 6 years allows me to actually finish a bachelors degree while 4 wouldn't have. And now I can use my GI bill on a Masters Degree.
Reserves or active duty
Brandon Asif reserves most likely
Probably reserves
If reserv, he would mention.
Also, Kyle in the video talks about active duty all the time.
Why do you think reserv ?
I signed a 4 year contract myself and then left active duty April 15,2017 and now im a full time student in Texas. It has been amazing. Zero dollar's for school is the most amazing feeling, And im collecting a housing allowance/food allowance :)
Glad I watched the video and read this before going today
@@officialjeremiahblake Sign a 6 year if you want a good time, you will love the air force
@@rats335 why 6? Do you get more with 2 more years?
@@Joe-mp1de only way i would recommend you get a 6 year contract would be if the field you are wanting to go into, you would need 5+ years of experience. other than that, i would say 4 year is better completely. retrain at 3 years instead of 5, 2 less years of military commitment, you can get a resign bonus after your 4 year contract if you want to extend your commitment.
All you need to know about recruiting, is to get a GUARANTEED job, when you sign the dotted line. In Basic, they told me my guaranteed job was no longer available, and I called their bluff. Amazingly, my job opened back up. Stick to your guns. GET A GUARANTEED JOB.
What is a “guaranteed job”?
How do you get a job guaranteed? I want to be a Cryptologic Language Analyst, and my recruiter keeps telling me that she can't guarantee me a job. Please tell me where I can learn more ablut this!! Thank you!
@@harrisonrodriguez5622 wondering same thing
@@harrisonrodriguez5622 have it in your contract
@@Deeznutz... read above
Salary as a civilian vs a military is similar. The military needs to be competitive to keep their personnel. If you know you'll make more money as a civilian the less likely for someone to join. Your military benefits package needs to be factored into your salary because believe it or not it is very significant.
Yeah, military benefits are way better than civilian.
Agreed. Paying for college, insurance, housing and food all are HUGE benefits
You should be a recruiter
He really should
He would be AMAZING as a recruiter. I'm watching this thinking "bro... get into recruiting command on the double." He would rock.
It would be nice, but they have to make a quota to live. That's the reason they tell their "lies" in the first place. Tell them something that is technically true, but mostly false based on your specific situation.
They wouldn’t allow that because he’ll tell the truth
He answers that at 16:49
I've been in the airforce almost 4 years and all this information is accurate. However, one thing to consider when joining for college is that you receive 4500 dollars of TA(tuition assistance) each year to go toward the price of your college classes. Any classes in excess of the 4500 will have to be paid for out of pocket, or with your GI bill. You have 100% access to your GI bill after you do half of your enlistment (please double check the ''access'' thing on the internet, cause I'm only 90% sure). In my case, i signed for 6 years and will have my college almost completely paid for by TA around the time I get out. Then I have my GI bill at my disposal for a masters degree. Just some food for thought in case kyle didn't already address this in another video (Great Videos by the way, I wish I had this guidance before I joined.)
Andrew Dove-Rivers how many classes can you take given your schedule? I thought he mentioned only two classes per semester?
Yea I signed a 6 and I’m almost done with my first year. Ima use my ta to get my bachelors then when I get out ima use my hazelwood act for my masters so if u enlist in tx don’t be too quick to use that gi bill
Andrew Dove-Rivers question I get free college for two years , should I knock out my AA first, then go to air force so they can pay for my Bachelors?
Mss.Holmes makes the most sense plus u could probably get ur ccaf with the credits from ur aa which jus puts u that much more ahead
Yes, this is why I did 6. I finished my BA in my first enlistment (and I joined at 17 straight after graduating HS. I decided to reenlist and am completing my Master's now. Been in going on 8 years. My son has my GI bill now.
Recruiters are basically the sales team for the Air Force. Its all about making the quota. Good video Kyle.
I absolutely love this. As a retired (24yr.) Capt. with 14 yrs. of stripes, 11 yrs. overseas, 2.5 in RVN. Came in with an IBM Wiring Operator's License (1966) and left with an MBA in Info Systems (worked on everything from punched cards to fiber optics). This young man speaks the ABSOLUTE truth.
My husband has a great recruiter now. I'm so glad I found your channel though. You've answered so many of my questions that I haven't gotten to ask the recruiter yet! Air Force is sounding more and more good for our family.
I always hear people also say x civilian job pays 2 times as much on the outside or it pays more on the outside. Something to consider with that as well is the cost of living. Housing, utilities, and other bills. Military pays a decent amount. You won't get rich. But in all honesty when you factor in rent and "civilian bills" vs what the military provides for you its not that much of a difference I have found. Your looking at 60k+ to begin to make more on the outside... If you can make more then 60k a year you'll be making more.
For real. My husband is getting out this year and i know the switch from military to civilian is gonna be hard so ive decided to join
Health insurance
Tax exemptions
wenll it depends on what the civilian job is. If you’re Services, you’ll get marketable skills for fast food or working as an attendant at a fitness club unless you want to be a sous or executive chef putting in your best for culinary skills, work in the federal service as a wage grade cook, or make a career and get a federal job at the Services Activity. Contracting or IT, you can almost write your own ticket for a good job after serving 4 years and without a degree, Security Forces will get you a modest GS-6 job as a civilian cop on base, medical will get you low paying EMT or medical assistant jobs unless you want to further your education and be a nurse or PA, communications is complicated, I don’t know, CE will get you a nice union tradesman job or federal job, munitions will get you a civilian job on base, admin will get you a job as a secretary, whatever I left out, I don’t know. Bottom line is unless you have at least a 4 year degree, federal service is the best you can do post-military.
BUT, for those of you wanting to get out, please consider this: a guaranteed paycheck every 2 weeks, opportunity to travel the world for free, almost free education, and 30 days paid leave a year. Oh and free medical and dental.
also you need licenses in the civilian world... like A&P, anything medical, others (even pilot) (!) Licenses cost $$. Jobs are ot guaranteed. Military experience counts for suat in the real world.
I scored a 70 on the asvab just sworn in last week. Thanks for the tips! Now just waiting on a job. Air Force bound 🙌🏼
How is it? Im thinking of joining
@@SalLifevlog I took it in school and it's pretty easy on the math part for me and along with the science part, had difficulty on the mechanics part , I ended up scoring a 70
Lol I like how we all got a 70
@@NCRRanger16 I got an 85 on the asvab, once I finish high school I'm hoping of joining in and becoming a linguist
how’d it go?
I’m 16 and very interested in the Air Force. I’m so lucky that so many people like you make these informative videos so ik whats true and what isn’t. Thank you for the insight.
@Prank ster Why you say that?^ why army and not air force? i want someone to lay it out also why air force and not army. thanks in advance
chevylover891 I don’t think he knows anything and just commented that for no reason
Actually you have no idea if what this person is saying is true or not. He’s giving you his experience at a certain point in time and things do change. Honestly as a retired Soldier and former recruiter, most of these videos are crap.
Just in case anyone is wondering (because I was) if you sign a 6-year contract with a guaranteed AFSC like Spec Ops/ATC and then wash out, you're keeping that 6-year contract regardless of your reassigned AFSC.
DC3893 yes. Source currently in and buddy just had the same thing happen
Is electrical engineering a 6 year contract? I want to join but I'm not that knowledgeable and am trying to learn a bit before talking to a recruiter.
ryan dravinski Virtually any job can be done on a 4 year contract, except for the ones that require really long training periods, like special operations and such. And maintenance jobs, like yours, don't fall into that category.
"Make sure you tie your boots right! I'll make a video about it. On the military bunks, its better to sleep on your back. I'll make a video about that. After you get out and you want to start making youtube videos...i'll make a video about that too"
Where are the videos :(
I can't believe recruiters lie. Especially with information at our fingertips.
Emotions cause you to ignore even obvious flaws in reasoning. Everyone in sales tries to do it. Some guys are great at it.
A recruiter is the equivalent of the military used car salesman/if it's not in writing it wasn't even mentioned.
BUT those two classes you are allowed to take at a time, you can use TA, not pay a dime out of pocket and not have to touch your GI Bill. My husband is working on his second degree and has yet to touch his GI Bill and is also working on nursing classes.
I was a six year enlistee, at age 17. I made E-3 at the end of BMT. I was selected for SrA BTZ (below the zone), at 18 months. This is E-4. I tested for SSgt, and scored high enough to be promoted at the end of the "B" cycle. I was 20 when I sewed on SSgt...one of the youngest SSgt's in Air Force history.
I dicked around and took 8 years total to make Tech, and made MSgt first time testing. 10 years 9 months sewed it on...then sat. Didn't make Senior until over 18. Tested SIX TIMES for Senior. Said screw this, retired with 20 years 23 days TAFMS.
Eight years to sew on Tech isn't bad.@@dennissvitak148
I was told signing a 6 year contract is more likely to attract the dependa than a 4
You just go in with one like me, that way you get BAH all while youre in tech school and even BMT
attract what?
No
gotta say it's awesome to see Kyle being so real like this instead of just speaking the blue. half way through my own contract. respect brother, your videos are awesome
I'm thinking about joining the Air Force and this video was really informative. Thank you! (:
So what was your decision
Did you join?
you join
Did you do it?
My husband never lies when he was a recruiter because it was someone kids life on the line and now our son is in the Airforce and his recruiter was great!
Try to get over continually kicking yourself in the arse for making the mistake of signing up for 4 vs 6--use the extra energy and continuing paycheck & benefits to plan your transition into civilianhood. The time will fly by and you'll soon be on the other side of the fence with access to all those high-salary, high-benefit, low-stress jobs out here.
"They don't really like you taking more than two classes at a time" - False, this completely depends on you. If your supervision can tell classes are effecting your job performance. They can restrict your classes down but I know several Airman who were able to take 2,3,or 4 classes at a time and manage. It is all about the individual. However, if you are denied TA(Tuition Assistance) you still can use GI Bill while serving as active duty. Your supervision can not deny that from you.
Overall great and accurate video.
Jordan Thompson how do you qualify for TA while you’re enlisted already? How do you get denied?
Your first priority is to the military. Everything else is secondary.
About #2, they say that because after getting your first base, you have a higher chance of PCSing overseas with the retainability unless you're willing to extend/reenlist. It's their way of bending the truth.
I don’t want to be lied too! 🤦🏾♀️
Kyle you should be a recruiter just saying
I will soon be meeting my recruiter for the Air National Guard I'm glad I saw your video before I met them to start the process of going into the Air National Guard.
Don't EVER sign an Open contract. Went Open General hoping for Security Forces and got stuck with Services. Wouldn't have it any other way since I love job.
Love your videos, Vision. Giving great insight to our future Airmen.
woah man! I am so glad I watched this. I just took the AFOQT to pursue commissioning as a civilian, and I was told if I don't get accepted then I can sign a 6 year and have a better chance at getting in while enlisted. definitely going to keep what you said in mind.
I was always told to get it in writing on the contract before you sign. That way if they try to say they can't you can point to the contract and do all you have to to put their feet to the fire.
One big thing to also consider is re-enlistment bonus's. So while you may not get one or may get a small one see what the re-enlistment bonus's are. For example intel. When I re-enlisted I got 60,000 dollars....half of that tax free and up front since I was deployed when i did it. If I had signed for 4 years I could have gotten it sooner. However at the same time 2 years sooner and I wouldnt have been deployed to get it tax free. So consider the timing of it all in terms of do you want to stay in and re-enlist and if you do is there a sign on bonus? If there is 4 year may be the way to go so you can get to re-enlistment sooner then go for the 6 years. :)
Helps a lot because I'm going into the Air Force Reserves! Thank gosh that I found this video
Can you make a video talking about the types of jobs that allow for the most travel.
When I signed my contract at MEPS, I asked the difference between 4 and 6 years and he said there’s almost no difference. He said some jobs and some pay are different and that’s it. So I picked 6 just in case 🤷🏼♀️
Would I be able to do it with asthma?
@@davidb6722 no
For young guys, a 4 year route might be true to get your degree. For some others, who have kids, and want to pass on their degree, staying in as long as possible and using the T.A. to get your degree is the best way to stack up success for you and your off spring.
TA?
Solo Sopranoh tuition assistance
Seriously, thank you so much for making this video. I've been having a difficult time debating on whether I wanted to join or not, and what branch...thank you for your service, and this video!
Did you join?
Thanks Kyle you've helped more than anyone has, even people in the airforce currently! I am going through basic this February and will post a video on the update.
What kind of videos do you plan on making after the Air Force??
xXuknowhoitisXx hahaha
Shayd Warr he started blogging with Makena. so I think they'll go along with that.
There's no incentive for recruiters to get recruits to sign 6 years, I'm not sure why they would lie, current air Force recruiter
@Noah Rodriguez-Beus they have a list of jobs that each recruiter has to reserve a job for their applicants using a draft system.
My Recrutier says he can’t guarantee a job I want even if I get the score on the asvab, is this true ? And if it is could Recruiters tell you if the job has availability so I have a better chance of getting it?
I’m so glad I watched your videos before joining the Air Force. I’m about to speak to a recruiter in the next couple of days. Now I know what to expect and be able to know the truth of what he tells me and if it’s not. I want to finish nursing as soon as possible but I was worried about how expensive the school’s going to be that’s why I’m still deciding if I should join or not. Thank you so much for making this video! I’ve subscribed and I’m hoping to see you make more videos. 😊😊💙
I joined the USAF in 1988 and my recruiter was straight up with me and she even wrote me a couple letters when i was in BMT.
There was an MD in the 80s that signed a 4 year contract. He agreed to go anywhere for 1st 2 years. His contract said second 2 years at Ft Sam burn center. The Army wouldn’t allow it. He sued. The Army wasn’t going to be bound by some contract! They discharged him rather than set the precedent that you could sue over your contract and win.
I'm thinking of joining the AF. This video was informative. Thank you! I'm trying to get as informed as I can before I make any decisions!
When I first enlisted, this is April 75, I was making like 70 dollars a week, when I got in, I made 75 dollars a week. Free room, board, clothes and medical. I enlisted initially for 4 years and guaranteed job as an SP. That was the only lie my recruiter told me was that SP was the same as an LE. Law enforcement. Got to my first duty station, MInot AFB ND. While I am humping a buff in minus 60 temps. LE's for the most part were driving around in blue and white K cars from Dodge. When I found out about the 6 year enlistment and I would get two stripes out of basic, I went down and did a 6 year enlistment after that. Ending up making it a career and no regrets. And I am sure at the time, you made this video, pay is based on Time in service and rank. Never heard about the difficulty when re-enlisting as an initial 4 year enlistee. If you want to re-enlist, you just arrange it in time for it to happen. I got re-enlisted by the Sec of the Air Force Aldridge while in flight enroute to Guam.
When you sign up for any branch you're obligated to a 8 year contract !!!! You can still sign up for 4,6 or 8 year doesn't matter just that you are sent to inactive reserve status once you exit from active duty.
until the army signs you into a 2 year infantry contract
I saw when the video was posted. So I went off the 2016 pay chart the exact numbers would have been $4834.4. However, it’s a lot more now. But you are correct not much of a difference.
knock out all of your generals during your time in service. once you get out, you will receive 4 years of free college from the GI Bill. the GI Bill only covers a junior degree, such as an associates or bachelors. you cannot use it for a masters+.
I worked in a non military government position in the Barnes Building in Boston. The MEPS reception area was on the floor that the cafeteria was on. It was fun watching the recruiters form each service circling like sharks trying to steal the recruits.
Love your videos but you're wrong about civilians making more. I'm an Air Reserve Technician but I make less than you do as a SSgt. Even though your W-2 says you only make about 30-40k a year, it doesn't include your BAH, BAS, and free healthcare. We don't get any of that and pay for our own healthcare. So you're really making 60-65k when I make 59k. Being a civilian/reservist is a lot better than active IMO and recommend you look into it rather than getting out completely. Just a thought.
People always neglect compensation packages and benefits. Thank you for calling this out!
i agree. he should do that.
TSgt Big Swole I'm in the reserves to I thought we get dental care and health care??
XxS1l3nTxa1Mx you get the free healthcare when you're on orders or are on your UTA weekend. As an ART we have to pay for our own insurance.
Big Swole I agree. Go reserve after. I'm also a reservist. It's been great so far.
Wish we hv watched this before my son had signed the 6 yrs. Contract... He's now taking the BMT.... I shared this video i hope he'll get to watch it before he leaves boot camp.
Thank You so much Kyle for giving Alot of information and letting every one know what's good and what's wrong in the military my daughter will be joining in two years after she graduates high school I've been following you for a long time and you are really great at what you do not to many people go on TH-cam and give the right information but your great please keep making more Air Force videos me and my daughter are we very interested in it Thank you once again for being honest love ya 💖😊👍
I was a recruiter back in the day. Even if i wanted to it was pretty hard to lie to recruits. Someone who signs up is going to end up in your Delayed Enlistment Program for up to 12 months. They are going to find out at some point if you are lying and then confront you on it. That would be quite embarrasing. Not sure what the emphasis is here on 4 or 6 yr enlistments. I could care less if someone signed up for 4 or 6. It had no impact on my job. His civilian pay vs military pay comparison is kind of wonky too. While it may be true that he makes twice as much as an airman, if he had stayed in and got promoted his pay would have eventually went up a lot more. Also he is not taking into consideration the retirement pension. As a retired enlisted after twenty years I have made close to $2800 a month pension since 2000. That is money I get for the rest of my life every month including a raise every year. I also got a contractor job after I got out that pays a lot, so I ma what you call double dipping. On top of that my Tricare health insurance is only $600 a year. He doesn't receive any of that if he got out after 4 years. Chances are his health insurance is a lot more than $600 a year. Air force was the best thing i ever did.
On the education I actually would say your wrong on....partially. So yes you can get out and go to college full time. However it lasts only 36 months or 3 years. So what you need to actually do is plan. What degree do you want? Where do you want to go? How long will it take you? If you can knock it out in about 3 years then yes do the 4 years. of military. However if your wanting a masters or maybe wanting your degree while saving your gi bill for a family member Id advise going to school while in the military as much as you can so 6 would be better. Last thing you want is to be going to school full time and then final semester or so have to pay out of pocket. Or maybe you'd rather do that then have another 2 years in. Just plan it out.
It's worth noting that some jobs requiring 6 year contracts also require a year in tech school. So even if you don't like the job 1 year of it is spent in tech school anyway so it's only a years difference.
Hey Kyle. I'm a big fan of your videos. Recently, I found out that my cousin will be getting married in November of this year in Las Vegas. It would be such an honor and privilege to meet you in person.
THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME about the re-enlistment because I wanted to do 4 and they got me thinking about the 6 because they made it seem like I wouldn't be able to re-enlist with much chance to get accepted i leave this Tuesday (July 18) and now you made my mind, 4 year it is!
Awesome video battle! HOOAH! It's great that you're helping a lot of people out!
Ericka Bernie hey there
Ericka Bernie im in the army lets chat on your video I'm a mechanic what s ur job?
AF recruiter here. "My recruiter lied to me" has two sides of the story always remember that. I had a few kids who contacted me after boot camp about something benefit wise that they thought they would receive. Goods kids, but it annoyed the stuff out of me. Why? Because 10 out of 10 times I briefed them about what they were asking before they went to MEPS and signed their contract, they just practiced selective hearing excellently.
This video should be called 4-6 year contracts and the lies and misconceptions that your recruiters give you
My recruiter gave me my job list and highlighted a select batch (a lot of 2As) basically he told me I had to pick 6 from the highlighted nd 2 of whichever I want. The highlighted weren’t my first picks but regardless, he convinced other people to obey him.
I take issue with you saying you get paid more on the outside. When you are in, your housing, medical/dental, uniforms are all free. This is HUGE in the real world. Also, it’s the ONLY place you can start in a specialized field with zero prior experience. You can’t just walk up to work on planes in the civilian world.
I was a medic. I was trained as a nurse. I passed meds, started IVs and did many dressing changes. In the civilian world, I’d need 4 yr degree before I could give one drug or band-aid.
So, you are need to remember- you get much more than just a base pay & you get to bypass prior work experience needed for many jobs in the civilian world.
Guy, if you're 'slaving' for any days of the week, you either have an assy CoC, or you're doing it wrong.
My shop was wicked cool. I had a blast doing what I did.
Then again, I left in '13, so YMMV.
"Where the H*ck are my 50,000 dollars?" lol😂... thanks for the info kylie
“Yes, six years is longer than four years.” Hahahahahahha! That’s hilarious
Every one seems to be happy to get out of the military. Making me think it's not even worth it to go in. I've heard of embrace the suck and everything but my dad said he really enjoyed his time in the military.
Shane Griffin Every military person's experience is different, TH-cam provides a platform for those who are disillusioned by anything (military, makeup, bad relationships, TH-cam subscriber policies) to vent. It's true that the military experience is, more times than not, appreciated more in hindsight. In the military--as in life--the crappy things will pass if you CHOOSE not to hang on to them and allow them to drag you down. You'll tend to find more 'disillusioned ' military folks on TH-cam. Those who aren't are spending their free time going to college; working out; traveling; working on their hobbies; spending time with friends & family and doing so without a camera attached to their arm.
The vast majority of people, regardless of the branch they join or their job, get out after their first enlistment. Very, very few people make it all the way to 20 years, and that's for a variety of reasons. My husband is planning on getting out after his first enlistment, and although I have a feeling he'll be extremely happy to get out, I think he'll also look back on his time in and be thankful for the opportunities. He doesn't regret joining at all, but after 6 years, sometimes you just need a change of pace.
Shane Griffin , don't let anyone's personal experience ruin it for you. I joined and been in for a couple years and plan on being in for 20.
Shane Griffin , it's all about what you make of it. Just like everything else in life nothing is going to be perfect and you'll have some bad days and some good .
+Jason - Good for you bro! Smart move! I got out of AD early, so I could go to the Air Guard and go to school. Bad move! I should have been smarter...finish my 20 years, see some of the world, and get my pension in 20 years! I screwed up (by getting out early) and I regret it every day of not staying in and completing my 20 years AD! You sound like a smart dude Jason. I wish I was smart back then...because I would have stayed in! Best of luck to you bro!
Kyle Gott, do not separate completely. Go "palace chase" if you dead set on getting out of active duty! Great video.
I did 6yrs as security forces hated it, glorified mall security...
Dennis Morris u getting paid good by being a mall cop?
The big thing for me with the 4 vs 6 year contract is promotion. I've seen some 6 year enlistees test and make SSgt before a 4 year enlistee even has a chance to test. It can be the difference down the line of making Chief but that is obviously a small percentage of people anyway. So the only real way a 6 year enlitee will make much more than a 4 year enlistee is if that individual really knew they were going for a career from the start.
glad I heard that before I ship out
You can cross train if the position you are going to is under manned. I cross trained into Helicopter Flight Engineer(Aircrew Mission Specialist now). The process was actually pretty easy, but that was back in 01-02. Might be harder now. Back then it also required a 6 year reenlistment
They told me the least I can do in the reserves is 6 years, ik they gotta be lying!
That's funny my recruiter just told me that if you want to go overseas you should sign for 6 years. Appreciate your videos and thank you for your service.
You're eyes are gorgeous I kept losing focus; thanks for vids they're very informative! I have considered joining even special Ops 😬
Simple
Get guaranteed a job! Got to Bmt . Go to tech school. Finish your CDC’s. Then start taking college classes online or at a school if you have that opportunity. I was able to get my bachelors degree and roll into the reserves and finish my time! couldn’t have been happier. Go USAF!
BEST VIDEO ON THE INTERNET! THANK YOU! 🧠💯💪🏾🇺🇸
You can sign a 4 year contract to be any of the spec op jobs you won't get the bonus like he said in the video but I would say it's better
The GI bill is "36 months" which translates to 9 months for two semesters a year
The one thing that is different about pay from a civilian job an enlisted job is that when you're part of the AF, you receive BAH which is non-taxable. All of that is dependent on your zip code, but when you're paying for your own housing, the extra money isn't that beneficial. So that $45k becomes $36k-ish after taxes. Then your E-4 salary of $24,552 ($19,641-ish after taxes) with BAH could add 10-20k untaxed. So it's fairly equal depending on your career, obviously. Then don't think about the free benefits you get while in that will have to be paid for when you leave.
It really sounds like you don't like being in the Air Force or aren't happy with what you chose. Is it really that bad?
it also depends on your job. If you do maintenance jobs, like Kyle, you might work harder/more than other jobs in the air force. I have met very many people who love their jobs and have made great careers through the air force as well as some who would rather do something else. It is also what you make of it. Many people would rather have financial stability then "full" freedom.
Brad Roberts no, I think he was just being honest. Like any job, there will be days where we don't wanna go.
Brad Roberts the military will do that to you, it's a tiresome cycle but it doesn't mean you regret signing
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im still confused why you dont have one million subscribers
because her murdered them all. remember? its because marines are so tuff and cool.
Also u don't need to subscribe to watch the videos. He prob has alot of viewers that don't hit the subscribe button. I used to be like that with a bunch of channels, but now I like receiving the channel notifications.
+ARMY Chris I miss how he would always be more interactive... like we would see the base... see daily life in the military... drive to different places... now it's mostly him standing in front of the wall and talking
Randy Rodriguez cause there is not a million people interested in the Air Force
He's good but he has a specific lane. But its very helpful for those trying to get to where he is
6 years for advanced training in navy.. electronics tech 2 years was training and 4 to serve.. and when you graduated from your initial schools you were a month or two away from e5 and EVERYONE graduated as e4.. a much better option than 4 years where you were lucky if you finished at e4 or 5.
So, I agree with some. But I think you do not have enough financial knowledge to speak on some of this. You have to consider more than just the paycheck when determining if you make more on the outside. For example, I net about 3600 a month as a 7 year staff where I currently live. If you calculate what the civilian gross would be to make that much, it would be 53,634. That doesn't even include the fact that I would also have to pay for health insurance now. Which is about $833 a month for a family plan in the US. So I'd need to gross at least around $65,000 to just maintain the lifestyle my family has with me being in. 6 years also does give you more benefits for education overall. I finished a BA in my first enlistment. Which left my GI Bill for my Master's (though I am just going to complete that with my TA and gave my GI Bill to my son anyways). Most recruiters bend the truth tremendously. They're not as false as you're laying them out to be, though. I'm not sure you have enough experience or knowledge on this to be doing these videos.
This video made me subscribe because I'm a junior in college right now. Majoring in finance and economics but I want to join so I'll go with 4 years instead of 6 because I see your point there.
Angelo Velez Join the AFROTC and become and AF officer instead.
@Julian Jackson I wasn't talking about OTS. OTS and ROTC are different things. It's much easier to get into the AF as an officer thru AFROTC rather than OTS.
@Julian Jackson Says who?
Military male with ear rings? Thought that was UCMJ punishable. At least it was when I was in the Navy 30 years ago
Gregory Alverson I think as long as he’s not wearing it with his uniform on, then he’s good
It’s called a career job reservation or CJR. That’s not true my buddy was given the option retrain or get out due to his career field being over manned. So yes under manned you don’t have to worry about it. CJR is not required for 6 year contract. That’s why it’s a gamble and you as an individual need to research your job.
Huh. I'm kind of glad I signed for four years now.
Your videos make me happy and they are sooooo effin helpful. I was considering the army and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna try for the Air Force since I have the ASVAB score.
can u do a video about the medical field in the air force please
I think the 50k thing is in reference to if you sign 6 years you get e3 right after basic, and make more money.
I didn't even think about that, but quick head calculation here, I'm not sure it would be 50000 more.
Another incorrect statement doesn’t matter 4 or 6 year contract. If you want to go officer you only have to serve one year of active service. Now the catch to this is, If you signed a bonus that you keep preaching... now it makes you ineligible for the one year option to retrain officer. It states that in my contact. Moral of the the story don’t listen to people. Read your contracts! If you don’t know what your signing then don’t sign it!
You'll go to a nice warm place for boot camp in the dead of winter when you join the Navy.. 😂 The shores of Lake Michigan in February is downright balmy no doubt especially during a blazzard. 😮
I was told if I sign a six year contract I will get better benefits and more money than if I would sign a four year. I was thinking about joining the national guard so if I sign a six year, four out of those six years would be spent in college. Any thoughts?
I am Prior Navy on 18's, Got out and went to Contract for the Air Force at Eielson at the Aggressors making triple than what I did active duty, Thats not including my daily pay for showing up, and add atleast another $200 a day when TDY for them.
If only this video was out before I joined!
Would you have not gone?
I agree that contractors typically make more than military members, but we get other benefits that add to our total annual salary. BAH, BAS, Primecare for you and your dependents and other things. I still think contractors will make more money but you still have to consider the amount of benefits we still get.. BAH alone can be anywhere from 1000-1500 per month roughly.