Someone answered “to kill people” when they were asked why they were joining the infantry and other poolees no shit gasped. Don’t mean to sound edgy but wtf, are we not ready for war or something, did they think that was impossible? That was my answer too but after that i always just said “to see combat” to pogs. Like wtf do y’all think you’re joining the red cross?
You have more power and choice before you enlist / reenlist, than any other time in your military career. If you use that to get shipped out as quickly as possible, don't be surprised when you have very limited career choices ahead.
Picked a mos, got to meps and told I couldn't have it due to having a waiver for dry skin. They pulled my contract to look for another mos. I called my recruiter, he told me he would pull some strings. While looking through other jobs, the earliest ship dates from what they were trying to talk me into were 3 months+ (couldn't do that due to living off savings and no job). My original contract was a month and a half, I was pissed. Told them I wasn't signing anything that day, my shuttle was there and ide just come back after finding an mos I liked with a quicker ship. Before I could leave the building I was being chased down "wait! Wait! We can get you your original mos!". Due to pulling my original contract, they had to pull up a new one. Just so happened in the 3 days since agreeing to the original, the bonus had gone up and ship date reduced to just a 3 week wait. I leave in 5 days. Funny how life works sometimes.
@@JustOneMoreTaskMom that's awesome,.. just take everything you do and learn as serious as can be. 170% effort. act as if your life depends on being #1 every day for 3 months. you can relax after boot camp. I promise the effort up front will make your life soo much easier.
@@themittymakI'm a bit older than the average recruit. I have a great urge to prove myself and go beyond the expectations. Idle hands bring no joy to me. I intend to surprise even myself. Already held a job many years which had me lifting and walking a minimum of 16 and max to 23 miles a shift. I will not capitululate. Everyone else be damned. Thank you friend. Only 3 days left
Didn’t get in because I had to get some write offs for medical stuff but my favorite memory was when the recruiter was filling out my paperwork and asked me to sign a paper that said “I am not nor have I ever been a part of a paramilitary organization, militia or terrorist group” and I asked if I could join one after I got out and if they were gonna check and see if I did. He just kinda looked at me for a second and said …. No? And then I took it from him and signed it without a word
Seriously, they need to stop confusing all millitiants for terrorists. It’s like they’re jealous of the fact they aren’t the only patriots in town. Like, there are many harmless armed training communities who would actually help the army in event of an existential conflict.
Basically just don't be stupid. I had some serious health conditions as a kid, didn't bring it up, was completely fine in MEPS. Went on to have the highest PT score in my battery the entire time I was in. You'll definitely get weeded out if you are genuinely sick or say something stupid.
I’m gonna be 100% real with you guys. If you have an attempted suicide in your medical records. Don’t tell anyone. Most things you can just be quiet about. I got dropped in bootcamp for a nosebleed (very long story). In the process of going back and forth to medical at Beaufort and signing releases to the Marine Corps for them to inspect my entire medical history, it was found that I had a suicide attempt a few years prior. This information traveled and trickled down to even the holding platoon Senior DI who was the only person to actually question me about it as I was the guide of the holding platoon at the time. By this time I was maybe 2 and a half months on the island and I guess the government had already invested in me and I was returned to training ultimately spending 5 months on the island altogether.
I mean, I somewhat understand it because the military has a high suicide rate but what they need is counsellors that actually give a shit and aren’t here to lollygag and yammer and do bullshit. Just listen to your problems like a normal person and tell you the truth.
Thanks for the video bro I’ve spoken to the navy, army, and now marines. Seems marines were the most honest with me. I scored a 76 on the test they give you in the recruiting office and it’s been 8 years since any schooling. Told the recruiter I know I can do better if they just help me with the resources and he was all about it. Best experience so far when it comes down to recruiting . Army told me to go online. Marines took the initiative to get it for me right there and then when I asked for it.
That's how we roll! Everyone thinks recruiters lie about everything, but if I lied to all my applicants ...why did they come back from boot camp and refer bring their friends in to meet with me?
@@BrandonLuna-ll3hw Depending what you are looking for in a military enlistment, I would strongly recommend that you seek out which will offer you the best benefits and opportunities. Don't enlist on any open contract, remember this. The military should use you were you have the best to offer. Open Contracts are BS. Make sure you read carefully your contract. If it is not on your contract, walk out. Don't feel any pressure.
I went into the recruiters office at 18 fresh outta high school and I got pushed away and was told you need so many college credits even tho the marine saying so was cross eyed
Sounds like you don't really want it if you're letting them not calling you stop you. Go back in there. Make sure they call you if you want it bad enough.
Officially starting my enlistment process tomorrow, great vids very helpful. Had adhd and depression on my record when I was 13 but when I talked to the recruiter he said that and the other information I provided him shouldn’t be a problem, I’m hopeful. Going USAF and trying to soak up all the knowledge I can from you and other military content creators to ensure my enlistment and service goes the best it can for me and my family that I’m doing this for. Again, thanks for all your insight! Looking forward to your continued support for us all!
@@IamBaimo I also want to go Air Force. I have ADHD and Depression but I am in contact with a recruiter about it along with gathering my medical records and I hope it won't be a bother.
@@IamBaimo Hopefully everything will work out for you. Set goals and priorities for yourself. I don't know if the interservice correspondence courses are still available; if so, take courses from other branches, especially in leadership and management development.
When I was on boot leave in the Marine Corps, I asked for some extra time before I went to my A school,so they put me on recruiters assistant duty. A guy came into the office that was psychotic, I swear, his eyes were practically spinning. One of the recruiters asked me to talk with him for bit as they were all pretty busy.I asked him what he might be interested in doing and he said he wants to kill people,he was practically foaming at the mouth when he said it. He said he wanted to take a machine gun and splatter the walls with blood and hair. My first thought was freaking YIKES!!!! ( keeping it clean here), I said well….. as soon as a recruiter is free I’ll have him discuss the opportunities you might have in the Marine Corps. When the Gunny got up to get something I intercepted him and told him what this guy was about.He had me talk to the guy he was with who was getting ready to ship and tell him about boot camp while he took on psycho.He got rid of him by telling him that since we aren’t fighting anybody at the present time we didn’t have the job he was looking for and that maybe he could get a job as a mercenary. He told him to get a copy of Mercenary magazine as they have job listing in the back.We all breathed a sigh of relief when the guy left.This was in 1981.
@@stevenpugsley2557 you can also sign up for emails, from private overseas contractors. Once you sign up for these emails you’ll get deluged with them. Do you want to find out you have a good level of experience you’ll get even more. After finishing pilot training them on a few other things. I applied for a job at a spray company. Spraying for fire ants. In the final interview I was told oh by the way we’d like to send you to overseas.. We’d like you to fly 500 feet AGL above ground level and you’re spraying the chemical paraquat. I thought to myself no that’s not me no pass sorry I’m not interested. I’m not gonna be flying 500 feet above the ground in Columbia spraying somebody’s field of marijuana.
Medical Examiner for our unit: "Would you ever hurt or kill someone?" My fellow 0311s and the weapon platoon "Was that a trick question? What are we suppose to say to that?"
@marinegamerplayer6490 (34 and considering joining, after a lifetime passion of civilian martial arts basically dangling just barely in and out of reach financially....) On command? If I trusted their judgment.... (Which is the question I've always had about the armed services) In self-defense or in defense of home, friends, and family? Absolutely, mf, and I'll personally write the explanatory letter to the sorry sob's family, too. I actually have no idea yet how far in I'd get with that attitude. My gut says not verry-but it could be wrong?
When i went to basic in 2016, there was a dude at reception who had been there for three months because it was found out at reception he had attempted forever napping 5 years before. They were taking their dear, sweet time doung the paperwork to get him back home.
Hey, currently working in recruiting here! Wanted to clear some things up, as a few things have changed since 2016-2017. Gone are the days of "don't say anything and MEPS won't find out." Your medical history will be screened out to 2 years and longer if they find anything concerning (regardless of what branch you're interested in. They WILL find anything that you saw a doctor for. Moral of the story: be completely honest with your recruiter so they can get ahead of anything that will slow your enlistment process and build it into your packet. It is not our job to disqualify you, it is the medical doctor at MEPS, and until they say you are disqualified, we will do our job to process waivers and work with you. Every branch has their own policy for medical and legal and what they allow. So if you are disqualified from one branch, another may be able to accommodate your problem.
If you are considering ENLISTMENT: 1. Spend a day in a VA hospital, talk to the younger guys dealing with MODERN combat injuries. 2. Be sure you explore JOBCORP AND TRADE SCHOOLS. there is NOTHING WORSE than sitting on a gun truck in Baghdad for your third tour, thinking: man...i should have just gone to trade school!
@@primus482 Don't ask don't tell covered homosexuality. That policy for homosexuality was done away with. You are somewhat correct in your comment, reading between the lines, what he is saying is don't tell on yourself about drug use, etc, especially if no one asked you about it. Just because it's the military doesn't mean they have an all seeing eye into your life or a time machine to go back in your life and see anything you did.
This brings me back to a hilarious moment. Back in the day, I was trying to join the marines. And they held PT twice a week for the pooles and what not. Well I told my recruiter I had a buddy that may be interested in joining and we could stop by a little bit before PT so you guys can talk. He says okay. So we get there about an hour early, they meet each other and we sit down. They chat for a bit and all is good. Well then the recruiter goes and asks my friend if he’s ever done drugs. My friend gets this sh!t eating grin going, and just starts laughing and says YES. The recruiter asks him “…really…? Like what?,” and my friend goes “man I did some LSD at a party one time that sh!t was super fun.” No joke the recruiter looks at me like “😐” and looks at my friend and asked him if he’s done anything else and he says “yeah I smoke weed still but I want to stop, I’m trying to see what this is about.” He then proceeds to tell the recruiter a story about the time he did shrooms and had a bad trip and chased one of his friends moms up the stairs with a butcher knife. No joke. The recruiter looked angry confused and shocked. I was trying so hard not to laugh. He told my friend straight up he can’t do anything for him and he doesn’t need to join us in PT lmao. I had no clue he would sit there and admit this stuff I mean I thought it was common sense. Don’t say anything lol. Too bad I guess
Before i went to MEPS in 2018 my recruiters boss (who just so happened to also be my football coach) told me at MEPs the word yes is an acronym that stands for Your Enlisment Stops. They told me to jist answer no to anything that they wouldn't already know. Nowadays they have that system where they can pull all your medical records tho. I was NG btw
@@FrommilitarytomillionaireOnce you're in though and the backend when you're dealing with the VA its the exact opposite, once you're out you gotta document every headache just to get some motrin 🤣
Loved the video. I'm a senior in high school and still trying to figure out what I want to do afterwards. Military is an option I'm considering and this seems like something I'll look back at when the time comes
It was around 1996-98 when I tried to join. Im quite certain I would have been perfect for the army, given the situations in my life in which I've always been most successful. But they said sooooo many times that if you leave *ANYTHING* out "we *will find out and you will* do 5 years in prison and pay $10,000 in fines " I finally broke and told them I had a few psychiatric issues as a kid/teen. I was so embarrassed that I just wanted to get out of there. The one chick (dont know who she was) said they could most likely still wave me in, but it may take up to two years. I knew there was no way I was going to stay clean for two years. At 22 years old two years might as well have been ten years. I honestly didnt have anyone to guide or direct me. I regret opening my mouth to this day. I knew I needed the structure and discipline and firmly believe it would have changed the trajectory of my life.
@VladimirGitcherocksoff in the 90's that scare tactic was all they had to find the truth. It worked. That said, I'll never fault somebody for honesty ...but, you quit when told the waiver would be difficult.
Btw kinda just wanted to be honest was in the National Guard don't trust the one weekend a month 2 weeks a year thing. Loved my time in, so didnt care, but you're doing WAY WAY more than that.
Back in 06, seen my share of local street gang members walk in, and when asked why they want to join the Corps, their answers were usually along the lines of "to kll the enemy Sir!" with enthusiasm. Some got pulled into the back room to discuss further 😅 Not sure who shipped or not.
I’ve been trying to join for the past year, I maxed out my IST for the USMC but wasn’t able to get a waiver for my “childhood asthma” (I never had it)… tomorrow I’m going into the army office to see what contracts they have available. Hopefully it’s a bit easier getting qualified with them.
Former recruiter myself. 6th MCD ROQ 3d Quarter FY 12 or 13. Don’t really remember, recruiting is like non stop so time gets distorted. RSS N Charleston, SC. No means go, yes “Your enlistment stops” loyalty to your recruiter is reciprocated, so if you tell them something and someone something else, that recruiter isn’t going to want to work with you. Ratios, I had a black kid who’s grandmother died and he wanted a tattoo to represent his struggle so he looked it up in different languages and set on “Mein Kempf” and he later realized the book and covered it up with some design, but had told another recruiter and meps already knew. I’m only trying. To back up the creator and reemphasize. We also had what was called a Moment of truth, where we’d take everyone who had made it through meps and was about to ship to be screened one final time and run a final IST (Initial Strength Test). Upon re-briefing, I’d pull out my tomahawk, and hold it in my hands. I’d tell the kids that loyalty is what the Marine Corps wants, so if there is something you haven’t told me, and you tell them, I do not have your loyalty and wouldn’t want too serve with you.
My dad was a recruiter for 6 years in the army and describes the vast majority of recruiters as sleazy used car salesmen, they don't care what they have to say as long as it completes the mission.
I followed the advise about "don't answer questions they don't ask you." Little did I know that Air Force OSI had given me an erroneous arrest record--and never bothered to inform me about it. I find out because they ran my prints at MEPS on enlistment day...I get a call from my recruiter the next day asking what the hell happened. This ends up going all the way to the TAG of the Colorado National Guard. Even though I eventually received a memo from OSI confirming it was their fuck up, Colorado NG shoved me out anyway because "you should have told us you were investigated even if you weren't arrested."
@@Frommilitarytomillionaire ...I replied to this hours ago at the same time as I responded above...I don't get what happened to the comment. I actually tried to talk to an Active Duty recruiting station as well, but their NCOIC told me flat-out that there was NOTHING he could do to help me, since I've had multiple ACL surgeries...even though this was after I had passed an SFRE with 19th SF Group and had two letters of rec from them. The NG recruiter was at least willing to do the waiver paperwork for it. That waiver took 3 years, and a senator's office inquiring 3 times, before they finally processed and granted it...hence my absolute disdain for the waiver authorities in my comment above... But after all of that work, the Recruiting Battalion Commander started to push me out without so much as talking to me or even notifying me. Even though he was required to interview me by regulation...yet the IG didn't care. My Dad had actually asked me recently if I would talk to a Marine recruiter instead since they're the only branch that made quota and hence seem to actually cut the through the BS and get the job done. But I'm 35 now so that's probably not a viable option anymore...
Interesting enough. I remember spending 5 days in a psych ward to proof that i am normal only because i have voluntarily arrived for conscription service (not mobilization) back in 2022 and told military comissar that i do want to serve. Funnily enough, every person who did that at the time went through the same process. It was a Khanty-Mansiysk military comissariate (MCs are doing recruiters job and some other duties too, but mainly - recruiting)
@Frommilitarytomillionaire We have universal healthcare, so all the medical stuff i went through, including a 5 days stay in a psych ward was completely free of charge for me and others. The only thing i've had to pay for was the stuff that i couldn't schedule right with universal healthcare.
I made a mistake to the documentation thing you mentioned. Halfway into joining the Marines I told them about a drug charge that had been expunged cuz I was scared they’d find it and turn me down, long story short he actually told me I shouldn’t have told him that because the wait would be longer and I’d miss the selection I wanted to go in.
Be honest. Lying to get in and to have issues later on because of omission and it hurting or costing someone else life is not something either party deserves.
You know, this reminds me of how I passed medical What you were not supposed to say is anything but "Yes" when you entered the doctor's office and told them that you need them to fill out the form for the military and they asked "Feeling good? Everything okay, no complaints?" It was hilarious when a different person was responsible for giving me the final document, because the other one was sick, and they started their speech with "So, I looked into your background..." and I immediately got scared. She continued with "I see that recently we deemed you unfit for service so...How did you get in?" and I just quietly clapped, because not a single person did this before, which is what I told her - No one cared and I just went through like 8 doctors in an hour and a half and they passed me. The best part is, she asked it because "You know you're supposed to pass this medical again in 2 years from now and if you don't, you basically wasted 2 years of your life for nothing?" and I said "I've been going here regularly for the past 4-ish years, I doubt that in these 2 years they will learn how to care, so I'll be fine" She did not appreciate the sassy attitude, but nothing I said was a lie. I live in a country with a compulsory military service (well, until not long ago it was) and I needed documents from them to go to university and I nearly got kicked out of uni, because it took 4 years to get the necessary documents from them and I got them on the very last day, after which I'd be kicked out. For those curious: Basically, in very simple words, I needed to prove that I'm not evading military service to university, and I couldn't. I even had to write a letter to the dean of Uni, stating that I'm in the process of getting said document. I was pissed at everyone there lol
@Frommilitarytomillionaire Got to keep reader's attention somehow And waste their time lol So yeah, I had to go to commissary since I was in highschool and that lasted until late 1-st year of Uni and I got the document stating that I'm not trying to evade military service and thus can keep studying for my degree And what I signed up for were reserves or officer training and it required passing a different set of doctors, which were not connected to the ones I went to before. And they did have access to my medical history, but they didn't bother and that's how I made it in. What I find funny is that I was above average at physical tests during entrance exams, as I was in top 10 even in exercises that I hated! :) Still proud of myself for my pull ups, because, although I did only 11 (9 being the minimum and 17 being maximum points), I kept solid form and even got praised for it P.S. body is still in shambles
Im 42 years old and a recovering drug addict. I would love to he able to join the military right now but im too old and they wouldnt let me. Im far more mature than i used to be, im way smarter than i was in my youth, im still a good athlete, man. I would benefit so much from that structure and use every opportunity available to get ahead in life. Regret is real. Lol.
@Porsche911GT38mmOEMBoschThrott I remember a time when cowards were kind enough to be ashamed. Thanks for the engagement at least. Foolproof way to get out of draft is to leave the country you're too scared to defent.
I went in absolutely sure I would be disqualified. Used an inhaler as a kid and was on depression medication in my teens. They explained away all the red flags in my file for me and qualified me without needing a waiver. I couldn't even duck walk properly. Some doctors will 100% end your progress, but you never know and it's worth a shot to try. You might get a cool doctor whose been doing it for decades like I did and give you the thumbs up to enlist.
I remember when a recruiter bumped into me in a grocery store. Seemed nice and eager. I gave him my number and agreed to meet with him for some sort of assessment. We went thru the process and they seemed happy with all the little tests they gave me but then we got to the questions part. See, he’s a salesman. And he wants to sell me on joining. So they kept driving home all the benifits. What it does for me. Great, so what will I do? What job am I getting. No matter how much I pressed he couldn’t say. Eventually he got me on the phone with his superior. Who I don’t know, sounded like a grizzled vet . For all I know somebody high up the food chain but no way to be sure. Anyways he did the same thing. Drove home how great it is and what it does for me. But I asked the same question several times and they wouldn’t give me a straight answer either. Eventually I told the old man over the phone “look I appreciate the sales pitch but if you can’t tell me what job I’m agreeing to I’m not signing” He didn’t like that answer but after that I hung up on the man and told the recruiter to leave.
My interest in joining the military comes and goes, I’m 19 so I got time. BUT, my teenage years were pretty… rough. My medical records aren’t at all incriminating when it comes to my physical health. Inhaler in second grade, removed my appendix at 16, I wear glasses that kinda thing. HOWEVER, I have a laundry list of mental health documentation. Testing, medication (adhd and depression), therapy. I function fine and now, I don’t even take medication anymore. How heavily is that gonna weigh on me? especially since I’d consider myself to be pretty reliable with high morale in my job and college, and those issues are something I overcame.
9:10 so i’ve applied for the Navy. and basically your saying don’t tell them i sold my assault rifle to my little brother 🙏🏾. that would be a no no. gotcha
Remember only fight for just wars if it’s a non just war say it’s for religious reasons and take a non combat rule like a military mechanic it will also help you when you get out
I joined the USMC in '06. My recruiter lied to me. I thought I went in as an open contract but my recruiter signed me up as a 0614. He said I was too smart to be an open contract. Lol
@@thegrapevine10 yes and no. There are lots of variables, and a good recruiter will coach you through getting the job you want. Most of my recruits did.
@Frommilitarytomillionaire yeah I went in the summer 07' and a lot of the guys that I graduated with that were promised 0311 were told that they would not be receiving that MOS bas on the needs of the Corps and instead got reassigned to 0121 adman but to be fair ITB was backed up so much that they had Marines waiting for 6 months to be picked for the new classes. Imagine hitting Lance before your first duty station. 😂
has anyone had a record of seizures and still able to join into the military? This has been a something I’ve been thinking about. Debating even getting a hold of a recruiter.
When I was at MEPS, I heard some dude behind me talking about how he was only joining to, and I quote, "Stack bodies" and saying he only wanted to kill people
7:05 I WISH it was that fast for the royal marines. Wait time is absolutely gopping, I faced a year and a month to attend my fitness test down at Lympstone, then another three months after that to start. And they wonder why so many people get frustrated and withdraw their application.
2 years ago I wanted to reenlist and go 12M, all the recruiters laughed and said it’s next to impossible to get that MOS, told them thanks for your time. One of them tried to get me to go back in but not as 12M, told him once it’s open get in contact with me. Never heard from him again 🤣
I suggest being honest about that. When I was talking to a marine recruiter he was understanding about it and said as long as your honest about it and not currently using youre fine. If that doesn’t work for you find another recruiter.
@@Frommilitarytomillionaire like you said in your video about getting asked how many times have you used the pot, I said twice and just stuck with that story. Lawd knows that was a lie lol
My recruiter told me don't ever say that again. I didn't. 11bx, earned my CIB, spent the last 15 years trying to find out what's wrong with me. VA doesn't care and won't ever get 100% because they can't prove it happened from war 🤦 its cool tho, I got my DVNF cup 🙄
What if you have asthma and it’s on file, but it hasn’t flared up or effected me while playing football (while in high school) in 4+ years and also havent used the inhaler or requested for one in those 4+ years
Met a kid at MEPS, the first time I went through, that got rejected from the Corps for having an "Antihero" tattoo. Literally, just the word "Antihero" on his lower bicep.
@Matthewhall772 I believe so! Lol. I had forgotten about that entirely til now. I only skated in Jr high and a bit in high school, and in my mid-30s now (I remember everyone passing around CCS catalogs to window shop and fantasize for all the latest cool stuff; Darkstar was my JAM).
Send the politicians to the front lines for all we care. How many veterans have fought for country and this government disregarded them as domestic terrorist, the truth is they can’t recompense the vets for what they’ve done. And more recently the government has caused the military innocent bloodshed. Brothers and dads, used like pawns; like the man who addressed the president, saying, “you lied, there were no weapons of mass destruction, my friends died because of you”. And to this day there’s soldiers in Afghanistan fighting for no good reason. When the initial reason for sending men there was lies and money, or possibly revenge. Not to mention the government is in like 6 trillion in debt. And they pay people who sign up to give their lives for slave pay. Not even 27,000 for 2 years of service in the military I seen. Smh managers make more in a year at McDonald’s🤦🏽♂️
I'm not sure what you're ramblin about other than having drank the kool-aide of mainstream media, but even an E1 makes more than $27k in two years. You simply don't have an understanding of how our pay works, so you're going off base pay, which is intentionally lower so that you pay less in taxes
My recruiter was cool. He told me to lie in meps when I had allergic reaction. I have allergic reaction to shellfish.Can you tell me just don't eat selfish
Part of me doesn't want to see Combat but also part of me does its driving me nuts mentally sometimes I watched too many old military or mercenary movies on TH-cam that's why
@Frommilitarytomillionaire I wanna be my best self I'm 19 I'm also very skinny around 131.8lbs I also have a 2 yr Rotc Experience in highschool and a military larper
"Ohhh God. Why the hell did I say that? This is such bullshit" -Specialist UCPDeltaDesertNightCamo2026, 2027 (two Combat Action Ribbons, one Purple Heart, and no longer-functional knees) Edit: Searched it up and found out that the Army doesn't do CARs. My mistake
@@Frommilitarytomillionaire elementary school graduate here. I think he tried to say “All I said to the recruiter was how quickly can I be shipped off to basic? I’m ready to go.”
I have like a hundred questions, and you seem like the most honest. I would really like to join the marines, but I have been diagnosed in elementary school with autism, not by a full fledged doctor. I was wondering if I got that checked out, how would it effect my chances?
Hey David, thank you for dropping these. As far as ADHD, aside from the standard rules across branches of being off meds for a year and providing paperwork for the recruiter for review of a waiver by the Meps doctor, what’s the best way to bring this up? I revisited a diagnosis over the years but haven’t stuck with meds consistently since grade school. I talked to my doctor about it and he said normally it’s just a letter he would write seeing that he’s been my family doctor since a kid and said it shouldn’t be a problem on his side from what he’s seen. With the Gneiss program it will pop up via pharmacy records so don’t want to waste anybody’s time.
I don’t think I would advocate hiding things from the recruiter. If you have not been formally diagnosed, yeah…you could say you don’t suffer from depression, suicidal ideation, anxiety, etc., but the military isn’t a psychiatric clinic. They won’t have the time or inclination to help resolve your issues. Some very messed up people want an escape from their situation, but they are already carrying too much baggage.
@ - What I’m saying is that the military is not the place to seek mental health care…nor do they want to enlist people with psychological issues. “Self-diagnosis” is a double edged sword. From a combination of stigma and the way mental health IS NOT covered by most health plans, people are hesitant to seek professional help, and even then, a decent therapist will only “put a label” on you if they deem it necessary because they know a formal diagnosis will impact the patient’s life in both positive and negative ways. Many people “on the spectrum” (Autism) are self diagnosed because there is no affordable and accessible resource to obtain a formal diagnosis. The military can do a lot more to weed out those who shouldn’t be there and determine if people with “issues” should be let in, but there’s a cost/benefit analysis involved. At some point, it’s cheaper and easier to send recruits home for “failure to adapt” than to try to keep them out in the first place. More so, if you take a person with psychological/emotional issues, put them in uniform, then end up sending them home when they don’t work out, invariably they end up worse for the experience. People looking to escape a bad situation will lie about health issues if they think admission will deny them the escape they seek…which is never a good way to solve their problems.
@qdllc Agreed. Also, every high school kid right now thinks they've been depressed (because they were sad once), or some other illness, because it's cool to have ailments these days. So I agree with you completely, but I'm also not going to tell people to be overly honest about nonsense. People with actual issues are easy to spot. I've seen too many perfectly healthy kids accidentally disqualify themselves by word vomiting.
Recruiters don't lie but he blew his leg out trying out for special forces in a branch that doesn't have special forces. I only spent 24 years in the corps. Maybe he went to 'try outs' for some secret unit no one knows about. My son is interested in either MC or Army and we introduce him to unit guys so he understands. Wouldn't introduce him to a recruiter if my life depended on it until he has already made up his mind and knows exactly what he wants and what to expect.
@hallowedmeadow4636 uhhhh ...where have you been? MARSOC "Marine Corps Special Operations Command" was founded in 2006, when they converted a Force Recon platoon into the first teams. I went to assessment and selection preparation and orienteering course (ASPOC) in early 2012. Have orders to prove both the attendance, and the drop on request (DOR) due to the injury. Soooo maybe don't discredit things without doing your homework to see what has changed since you left service.
Christ. USMC has always had special operations. Arguably, the entire MEUSOC, specifically FORECON, now Raiders, perhaps STA, ANGLICO, SRIG, and now personnel within MARSOC. That notwithstanding, Special Forces is a proper noun that refers to a very specific unit in SOCOM. Comprised of the 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 10th, 19th, and 20th Special Forces Groups of the Army. Special Forces are SF - Green Berets - the 18 series. We don't have those. A rifle isn't a gun, a Marine is not a soldier, and a flashlight is still a moonbeam. Why would anyone have to explain this to you? A recruiter of all people should know better.
I have a pretty extensive history of substance abuse and mental health issues. Been hospitalized a few times. I went to rehab, completed it, and been sober for nearly 2 years now with no hospitalizations. I’ve been on one medication in that time span and a very low dose at that. I’ve been off of said medication for 8 months. The USAF recruiter I talked to told me I would almost certainly need a waiver(s) for this stuff but gave me no indication of my chances of getting that waiver approved. I’m kind of curious about that.
Question: what about food allergy? I have a slight sensitivity to tree nuts, throat gets itchy and annoying, but I can function and breathe, and can move on. When I have a lot of it I puke but that’s as bad as it gets, can still function, will feel like crap but can function perfectly. How do I go about that while trying to enlist?
Per your experience, How do state pardons and expungements pan out? I received a pardon by the governor and then expunged from my record for a felony assault ten years ago off duty. I know that is a serious thing but I was in before then caught the charge. Completed my first contract successfully then was general discharge(honorable conditions). My DD214 is a RE3 code. The narrative just says lost time with unit and transferred to IRR for contract completion. Thanks again.
Honestly, I've never tried, and if you were to walk in my office I would probably tell you it wasn't possible because I wouldn't want to deal with that mountain of paperwork. There is a waiver (supposedly), but RE-3 is the same code as "denying orders", and as recruiters I was told to stay away from anything RE-3 or below. Also, a pardon/expungement doesn't negate guilt. The military's judicial waivers go off whether or not you were found guilty in the first place. I only saw ONE felony waiver approved in 3 years, and it was the only one in our state.
I was on my ADHD meds, with an inhaler in my pocket. Recruiter told me if I wanted to join then I didn’t have asthma or ADHD. Guess recruiters do know everything ! Also said I would get to pick three duty stations and would definitely get one…lie…said I would have a future….lie….they didn’t lie about deploying and fighting though but the making a difference part was also a lie…
"I want to see blood" can delay your shipping process in other branches. But in the Marine Corps, it speeds it up.
@@DefinitelyNotAnOsprey Not really. It raises red flags, immediately.
Someone answered “to kill people” when they were asked why they were joining the infantry and other poolees no shit gasped. Don’t mean to sound edgy but wtf, are we not ready for war or something, did they think that was impossible? That was my answer too but after that i always just said “to see combat” to pogs. Like wtf do y’all think you’re joining the red cross?
@@Frommilitarytomillionaire Respectfully, it was a joke.
@DefinitelyNotAnOsprey roger
...just making sure 😂
They said "dress for the job you want" instructions unclear i went to the local recruiter in full battle rattle and now i need bail money.
@@thisguy7010 🙃😂🤣😂
Best comment 😂😂
@@thisguy7010 hahahaha thanks for the laugh!
Damn
“I am normal and I can be trusted with guns”
indeed
my recruiter said they would ship me out to boot camp in 2 months.. I told them I would join a different branch.. well well.. shipped out 1 week later
@@themittymak hahahahaha
You have more power and choice before you enlist / reenlist, than any other time in your military career. If you use that to get shipped out as quickly as possible, don't be surprised when you have very limited career choices ahead.
Picked a mos, got to meps and told I couldn't have it due to having a waiver for dry skin. They pulled my contract to look for another mos. I called my recruiter, he told me he would pull some strings. While looking through other jobs, the earliest ship dates from what they were trying to talk me into were 3 months+ (couldn't do that due to living off savings and no job). My original contract was a month and a half, I was pissed. Told them I wasn't signing anything that day, my shuttle was there and ide just come back after finding an mos I liked with a quicker ship. Before I could leave the building I was being chased down "wait! Wait! We can get you your original mos!". Due to pulling my original contract, they had to pull up a new one. Just so happened in the 3 days since agreeing to the original, the bonus had gone up and ship date reduced to just a 3 week wait. I leave in 5 days. Funny how life works sometimes.
@@JustOneMoreTaskMom that's awesome,.. just take everything you do and learn as serious as can be. 170% effort. act as if your life depends on being #1 every day for 3 months. you can relax after boot camp. I promise the effort up front will make your life soo much easier.
@@themittymakI'm a bit older than the average recruit. I have a great urge to prove myself and go beyond the expectations. Idle hands bring no joy to me. I intend to surprise even myself. Already held a job many years which had me lifting and walking a minimum of 16 and max to 23 miles a shift. I will not capitululate. Everyone else be damned. Thank you friend. Only 3 days left
Didn’t get in because I had to get some write offs for medical stuff but my favorite memory was when the recruiter was filling out my paperwork and asked me to sign a paper that said “I am not nor have I ever been a part of a paramilitary organization, militia or terrorist group” and I asked if I could join one after I got out and if they were gonna check and see if I did. He just kinda looked at me for a second and said …. No? And then I took it from him and signed it without a word
geeze
@ personally I thought it was funny I almost laughed after I said it
Thats a hilarious joke. Sounds like the dude was just grumpy haha
Seriously, they need to stop confusing all millitiants for terrorists. It’s like they’re jealous of the fact they aren’t the only patriots in town. Like, there are many harmless armed training communities who would actually help the army in event of an existential conflict.
@@verts1de952 na he was a cool guy just caught off guard probably lol
Basically just don't be stupid. I had some serious health conditions as a kid, didn't bring it up, was completely fine in MEPS. Went on to have the highest PT score in my battery the entire time I was in. You'll definitely get weeded out if you are genuinely sick or say something stupid.
Agreed!
"don't be stupid"
Then why would I be signing up for MC?
@matthewcheung7888 look guys ...a comedian.
@Frommilitarytomillionaire YEAH! LOOK AT THE IDIOT (I can't run a mile and have not military training whatsoever)
@@matthewcheung7888 hahahaha man!😐
I’m gonna be 100% real with you guys. If you have an attempted suicide in your medical records. Don’t tell anyone. Most things you can just be quiet about. I got dropped in bootcamp for a nosebleed (very long story). In the process of going back and forth to medical at Beaufort and signing releases to the Marine Corps for them to inspect my entire medical history, it was found that I had a suicide attempt a few years prior. This information traveled and trickled down to even the holding platoon Senior DI who was the only person to actually question me about it as I was the guide of the holding platoon at the time. By this time I was maybe 2 and a half months on the island and I guess the government had already invested in me and I was returned to training ultimately spending 5 months on the island altogether.
@@doubleemcastillano464 I can neither confirm nor deny what to do in that situation, haha
What would you do if you had an attempt a while back and needed waivers to get in, is it worth trying ?
I mean, I somewhat understand it because the military has a high suicide rate but what they need is counsellors that actually give a shit and aren’t here to lollygag and yammer and do bullshit. Just listen to your problems like a normal person and tell you the truth.
@@doubleemcastillano464 how did they not find this with Genesis at MEPS? And how did they find it while in training?
Glad you’re still here bro 💪🏼
Thanks for the video bro I’ve spoken to the navy, army, and now marines. Seems marines were the most honest with me. I scored a 76 on the test they give you in the recruiting office and it’s been 8 years since any schooling. Told the recruiter I know I can do better if they just help me with the resources and he was all about it. Best experience so far when it comes down to recruiting . Army told me to go online. Marines took the initiative to get it for me right there and then when I asked for it.
That's how we roll! Everyone thinks recruiters lie about everything, but if I lied to all my applicants ...why did they come back from boot camp and refer bring their friends in to meet with me?
Marines give the best service but ask the most from you.
Honestly, it’s respected.
@@BrandonLuna-ll3hw
Depending what you are looking for in a military enlistment, I would strongly recommend that you seek out which will offer you the best benefits and opportunities. Don't enlist on any open contract, remember this. The military should use you were you have the best to offer. Open Contracts are BS. Make sure you read carefully your contract. If it is not on your contract, walk out. Don't feel any pressure.
I went into the recruiters office at 18 fresh outta high school and I got pushed away and was told you need so many college credits even tho the marine saying so was cross eyed
I told them I dont like to be screamed at and they have not called me..
@@WildWolfStyle strange... :p
I have no idea..@@Frommilitarytomillionaire
Sounds like you don't really want it if you're letting them not calling you stop you. Go back in there. Make sure they call you if you want it bad enough.
If you cant handle being yelled at and taking criticism, the military is not for you.
Then sign up for the air force
Officially starting my enlistment process tomorrow, great vids very helpful. Had adhd and depression on my record when I was 13 but when I talked to the recruiter he said that and the other information I provided him shouldn’t be a problem, I’m hopeful. Going USAF and trying to soak up all the knowledge I can from you and other military content creators to ensure my enlistment and service goes the best it can for me and my family that I’m doing this for. Again, thanks for all your insight! Looking forward to your continued support for us all!
@@IamBaimo boom! I'm sure they'll take care of you. If it was that long ago, and you are successfully off it now, should be a non-issue
@@IamBaimo I also want to go Air Force. I have ADHD and Depression but I am in contact with a recruiter about it along with gathering my medical records and I hope it won't be a bother.
@@Frommilitarytomillionaire I definitely agree. Thank you for sharing such helpful information! It will definitely help with enlisting!
@@IamBaimo
Hopefully everything will work out for you. Set goals and priorities for yourself. I don't know if the interservice correspondence courses are still available; if so, take courses from other branches, especially in leadership and management development.
Hopefully you are in bootcamp right now. Good Luck brother!
When I was on boot leave in the Marine Corps, I asked for some extra time before I went to my A school,so they put me on recruiters assistant duty. A guy came into the office that was psychotic, I swear, his eyes were practically spinning. One of the recruiters asked me to talk with him for bit as they were all pretty busy.I asked him what he might be interested in doing and he said he wants to kill people,he was practically foaming at the mouth when he said it. He said he wanted to take a machine gun and splatter the walls with blood and hair. My first thought was freaking YIKES!!!! ( keeping it clean here), I said well….. as soon as a recruiter is free I’ll have him
discuss the opportunities you might have in the Marine Corps.
When the Gunny got up to get something I intercepted him and told him what this guy was about.He had me talk to the guy he was with who was getting ready to ship and tell him about boot camp while he took on psycho.He got rid of him by telling him that since we aren’t fighting anybody at the present time we didn’t have the job he was looking for and that maybe he could get a job as a mercenary. He told him to get a copy of Mercenary magazine as they have job listing in the back.We all breathed a sigh of relief when the guy left.This was in 1981.
@@stevenpugsley2557 you can also sign up for emails, from private overseas contractors. Once you sign up for these emails you’ll get deluged with them. Do you want to find out you have a good level of experience you’ll get even more. After finishing pilot training them on a few other things. I applied for a job at a spray company. Spraying for fire ants. In the final interview I was told oh by the way we’d like to send you to overseas.. We’d like you to fly 500 feet AGL above ground level and you’re spraying the chemical paraquat. I thought to myself no that’s not me no pass sorry I’m not interested. I’m not gonna be flying 500 feet above the ground in Columbia spraying somebody’s field of marijuana.
Medical Examiner for our unit: "Would you ever hurt or kill someone?" My fellow 0311s and the weapon platoon "Was that a trick question? What are we suppose to say to that?"
hahahaha - context matters I suppose :p
@@Frommilitarytomillionaire yeah we just all answered no... for them.
@marinegamerplayer6490
(34 and considering joining, after a lifetime passion of civilian martial arts basically dangling just barely in and out of reach financially....)
On command? If I trusted their judgment.... (Which is the question I've always had about the armed services)
In self-defense or in defense of home, friends, and family? Absolutely, mf, and I'll personally write the explanatory letter to the sorry sob's family, too.
I actually have no idea yet how far in I'd get with that attitude. My gut says not verry-but it could be wrong?
"Like right now? Is this a test? Well...when in Rome. Who did you have in mind?"
@@marinegamerplayer6490 damn how pathetic you gotta be to not seriously wound or kill a enemy combatant if thats literally your job
job market so bad i cant even mess up the army process
I just straight up love this entire video, it was so informative and funny. I wish I could have you as my recruiter.
@@joebot999_8 thank you for the kind words!!
When i went to basic in 2016, there was a dude at reception who had been there for three months because it was found out at reception he had attempted forever napping 5 years before. They were taking their dear, sweet time doung the paperwork to get him back home.
That's exactly right. You never want to bring stuff up at recruit training that you didn't bring up beforehand.
Lol... That's a new one... 'A Forever Nap', never heard that before🤣
@@petem68 Yeah, these wimps who moderate the social media platforms get really butt hurt when you mention the s-word.
@@shaneminer4526 suicide?
@@shaneminer4526
Some procedures make absolutely no rational sense. Sounds like he has a sleep disorder.
Hey, currently working in recruiting here! Wanted to clear some things up, as a few things have changed since 2016-2017.
Gone are the days of "don't say anything and MEPS won't find out." Your medical history will be screened out to 2 years and longer if they find anything concerning (regardless of what branch you're interested in. They WILL find anything that you saw a doctor for. Moral of the story: be completely honest with your recruiter so they can get ahead of anything that will slow your enlistment process and build it into your packet. It is not our job to disqualify you, it is the medical doctor at MEPS, and until they say you are disqualified, we will do our job to process waivers and work with you. Every branch has their own policy for medical and legal and what they allow. So if you are disqualified from one branch, another may be able to accommodate your problem.
@@bryanmeyerowich4155 MHS genesis ruined everything
Seeing this sitting in the barracks, in uniform way to late to use these tips
If you are considering ENLISTMENT:
1. Spend a day in a VA hospital, talk to the younger guys dealing with MODERN combat injuries.
2. Be sure you explore JOBCORP AND TRADE SCHOOLS. there is NOTHING WORSE than sitting on a gun truck in Baghdad for your third tour, thinking: man...i should have just gone to trade school!
Never had that though. I requested another combat unit while I was in Afghanistan.
What did you do when you got out?
@@Frommilitarytomillionaire when to trade school! Lol.
So, what you're saying sir, is to utilize the "don't ask, don't tell" method?
@@primus482 that policy no longer exists.
@@Frommilitarytomillionaire huh. Noted. Also, thank you for your service. Semper Fi
@primus482 semper fi
@@primus482 Don't ask don't tell covered homosexuality.
That policy for homosexuality was done away with.
You are somewhat correct in your comment, reading between the lines, what he is saying is don't tell on yourself about drug use, etc, especially if no one asked you about it. Just because it's the military doesn't mean they have an all seeing eye into your life or a time machine to go back in your life and see anything you did.
@@redhot8041 fair enough. That is more or less what I was going for. Not telling on yourself, I mean.
This brings me back to a hilarious moment.
Back in the day, I was trying to join the marines. And they held PT twice a week for the pooles and what not. Well I told my recruiter I had a buddy that may be interested in joining and we could stop by a little bit before PT so you guys can talk. He says okay.
So we get there about an hour early, they meet each other and we sit down. They chat for a bit and all is good. Well then the recruiter goes and asks my friend if he’s ever done drugs. My friend gets this sh!t eating grin going, and just starts laughing and says YES. The recruiter asks him “…really…? Like what?,” and my friend goes “man I did some LSD at a party one time that sh!t was super fun.”
No joke the recruiter looks at me like “😐” and looks at my friend and asked him if he’s done anything else and he says “yeah I smoke weed still but I want to stop, I’m trying to see what this is about.” He then proceeds to tell the recruiter a story about the time he did shrooms and had a bad trip and chased one of his friends moms up the stairs with a butcher knife. No joke.
The recruiter looked angry confused and shocked. I was trying so hard not to laugh. He told my friend straight up he can’t do anything for him and he doesn’t need to join us in PT lmao. I had no clue he would sit there and admit this stuff I mean I thought it was common sense. Don’t say anything lol. Too bad I guess
@nate.s.c hahahaha you'd be amazed by some of the things I've heard admitted. That's pretty funny tho!
Before i went to MEPS in 2018 my recruiters boss (who just so happened to also be my football coach) told me at MEPs the word yes is an acronym that stands for Your Enlisment Stops. They told me to jist answer no to anything that they wouldn't already know. Nowadays they have that system where they can pull all your medical records tho. I was NG btw
@@TypicalAmericanCitizen yep! "Your enlistment stops" (yes), and "new opportunity" (no)
@@FrommilitarytomillionaireOnce you're in though and the backend when you're dealing with the VA its the exact opposite, once you're out you gotta document every headache just to get some motrin 🤣
@LibertarianLibrarian1776 true!
Loved the video. I'm a senior in high school and still trying to figure out what I want to do afterwards. Military is an option I'm considering and this seems like something I'll look back at when the time comes
It's one of my favorite options!
It was around 1996-98 when I tried to join. Im quite certain I would have been perfect for the army, given the situations in my life in which I've always been most successful. But they said sooooo many times that if you leave *ANYTHING* out "we *will find out and you will* do 5 years in prison and pay $10,000 in fines "
I finally broke and told them I had a few psychiatric issues as a kid/teen. I was so embarrassed that I just wanted to get out of there. The one chick (dont know who she was) said they could most likely still wave me in, but it may take up to two years. I knew there was no way I was going to stay clean for two years. At 22 years old two years might as well have been ten years.
I honestly didnt have anyone to guide or direct me. I regret opening my mouth to this day. I knew I needed the structure and discipline and firmly believe it would have changed the trajectory of my life.
@VladimirGitcherocksoff in the 90's that scare tactic was all they had to find the truth. It worked.
That said, I'll never fault somebody for honesty ...but, you quit when told the waiver would be difficult.
Btw kinda just wanted to be honest was in the National Guard don't trust the one weekend a month 2 weeks a year thing. Loved my time in, so didnt care, but you're doing WAY WAY more than that.
maybe
Back in 06, seen my share of local street gang members walk in, and when asked why they want to join the Corps, their answers were usually along the lines of "to kll the enemy Sir!" with enthusiasm. Some got pulled into the back room to discuss further 😅 Not sure who shipped or not.
HAHAHAH, man, at least they were trying to use their gangbanging skills abroad and not at home
Nah we need the crazies for when war kicks off. My recruiter got pissed when I chose to go scout with a high gt score
odd, most recruiters don't care
thank you so much this provided so much clarity
Glad to help!
I’ve been trying to join for the past year, I maxed out my IST for the USMC but wasn’t able to get a waiver for my “childhood asthma” (I never had it)… tomorrow I’m going into the army office to see what contracts they have available. Hopefully it’s a bit easier getting qualified with them.
I wish i found this earlier, got deferred and now am working on improving my chances next time. Maybe a blessing in disguise
You'll get it!
Former recruiter myself. 6th MCD ROQ 3d Quarter FY 12 or 13. Don’t really remember, recruiting is like non stop so time gets distorted. RSS N Charleston, SC. No means go, yes “Your enlistment stops” loyalty to your recruiter is reciprocated, so if you tell them something and someone something else, that recruiter isn’t going to want to work with you. Ratios, I had a black kid who’s grandmother died and he wanted a tattoo to represent his struggle so he looked it up in different languages and set on “Mein Kempf” and he later realized the book and covered it up with some design, but had told another recruiter and meps already knew. I’m only trying. To back up the creator and reemphasize. We also had what was called a Moment of truth, where we’d take everyone who had made it through meps and was about to ship to be screened one final time and run a final IST (Initial Strength Test). Upon re-briefing, I’d pull out my tomahawk, and hold it in my hands. I’d tell the kids that loyalty is what the Marine Corps wants, so if there is something you haven’t told me, and you tell them, I do not have your loyalty and wouldn’t want too serve with you.
That’s funny im in Charleston sc looking to enlist in the national guard soon reading these comments
My dad was a recruiter for 6 years in the army and describes the vast majority of recruiters as sleazy used car salesmen, they don't care what they have to say as long as it completes the mission.
Was he Army or National Guard? National Guard was always like that in my experience. Nobody else
@ army but this was way back in the olden days(early 2000s)
The recruiters had a weed-out process? When I went in it was basically do you have all 10 toes and fingers?
Always depends on needs. In wartime they'll take a lot more people.
definitely varies a little depending on branch, but all branches do it to some extent
Good list and realistic discussion. Would’ve been useful 20 years ago 😂
@@Ken-sm7hh hahahaha I feel that.
27 years ago. I screwed myself when I tried to enlist in ‘98 and was too open because I didn’t have anyone tell me what not to say.
Just go Army. No one ever threatened to change my job. Loved it. Best decision I ever made.
I followed the advise about "don't answer questions they don't ask you." Little did I know that Air Force OSI had given me an erroneous arrest record--and never bothered to inform me about it. I find out because they ran my prints at MEPS on enlistment day...I get a call from my recruiter the next day asking what the hell happened. This ends up going all the way to the TAG of the Colorado National Guard. Even though I eventually received a memo from OSI confirming it was their fuck up, Colorado NG shoved me out anyway because "you should have told us you were investigated even if you weren't arrested."
The National Guard is trash though. They shoved you out because their recruiters are lazy. Did you go talk to another branch?
@@Frommilitarytomillionaire ...I replied to this hours ago at the same time as I responded above...I don't get what happened to the comment. I actually tried to talk to an Active Duty recruiting station as well, but their NCOIC told me flat-out that there was NOTHING he could do to help me, since I've had multiple ACL surgeries...even though this was after I had passed an SFRE with 19th SF Group and had two letters of rec from them. The NG recruiter was at least willing to do the waiver paperwork for it. That waiver took 3 years, and a senator's office inquiring 3 times, before they finally processed and granted it...hence my absolute disdain for the waiver authorities in my comment above... But after all of that work, the Recruiting Battalion Commander started to push me out without so much as talking to me or even notifying me. Even though he was required to interview me by regulation...yet the IG didn't care. My Dad had actually asked me recently if I would talk to a Marine recruiter instead since they're the only branch that made quota and hence seem to actually cut the through the BS and get the job done. But I'm 35 now so that's probably not a viable option anymore...
Interesting enough. I remember spending 5 days in a psych ward to proof that i am normal only because i have voluntarily arrived for conscription service (not mobilization) back in 2022 and told military comissar that i do want to serve. Funnily enough, every person who did that at the time went through the same process. It was a Khanty-Mansiysk military comissariate (MCs are doing recruiters job and some other duties too, but mainly - recruiting)
Goodness, that sounds intense. Did MEPS at least pay for it?
@Frommilitarytomillionaire We have universal healthcare, so all the medical stuff i went through, including a 5 days stay in a psych ward was completely free of charge for me and others. The only thing i've had to pay for was the stuff that i couldn't schedule right with universal healthcare.
I made a mistake to the documentation thing you mentioned. Halfway into joining the Marines I told them about a drug charge that had been expunged cuz I was scared they’d find it and turn me down, long story short he actually told me I shouldn’t have told him that because the wait would be longer and I’d miss the selection I wanted to go in.
3:20 alright, we get it. You’re still good at your job
Haven't been a recruiter in 8 years. Not in the military. No dog in the fight.
Great content man! Thanks for the info!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for your service
Be honest. Lying to get in and to have issues later on because of omission and it hurting or costing someone else life is not something either party deserves.
You know, this reminds me of how I passed medical
What you were not supposed to say is anything but "Yes" when you entered the doctor's office and told them that you need them to fill out the form for the military and they asked "Feeling good? Everything okay, no complaints?"
It was hilarious when a different person was responsible for giving me the final document, because the other one was sick, and they started their speech with "So, I looked into your background..." and I immediately got scared.
She continued with "I see that recently we deemed you unfit for service so...How did you get in?" and I just quietly clapped, because not a single person did this before, which is what I told her - No one cared and I just went through like 8 doctors in an hour and a half and they passed me.
The best part is, she asked it because "You know you're supposed to pass this medical again in 2 years from now and if you don't, you basically wasted 2 years of your life for nothing?" and I said "I've been going here regularly for the past 4-ish years, I doubt that in these 2 years they will learn how to care, so I'll be fine"
She did not appreciate the sassy attitude, but nothing I said was a lie.
I live in a country with a compulsory military service (well, until not long ago it was) and I needed documents from them to go to university and I nearly got kicked out of uni, because it took 4 years to get the necessary documents from them and I got them on the very last day, after which I'd be kicked out. For those curious: Basically, in very simple words, I needed to prove that I'm not evading military service to university, and I couldn't. I even had to write a letter to the dean of Uni, stating that I'm in the process of getting said document.
I was pissed at everyone there lol
I was confused, until you said you lived in a different country. This didn't sound exactly like our process, haha
@Frommilitarytomillionaire Got to keep reader's attention somehow
And waste their time lol
So yeah, I had to go to commissary since I was in highschool and that lasted until late 1-st year of Uni and I got the document stating that I'm not trying to evade military service and thus can keep studying for my degree
And what I signed up for were reserves or officer training and it required passing a different set of doctors, which were not connected to the ones I went to before. And they did have access to my medical history, but they didn't bother and that's how I made it in.
What I find funny is that I was above average at physical tests during entrance exams, as I was in top 10 even in exercises that I hated! :)
Still proud of myself for my pull ups, because, although I did only 11 (9 being the minimum and 17 being maximum points), I kept solid form and even got praised for it
P.S. body is still in shambles
Im 42 years old and a recovering drug addict. I would love to he able to join the military right now but im too old and they wouldnt let me. Im far more mature than i used to be, im way smarter than i was in my youth, im still a good athlete, man. I would benefit so much from that structure and use every opportunity available to get ahead in life. Regret is real. Lol.
I feel that, have you talked to the Army National Guard yet? They may be able to work with you
What he said. You may be able to be in the NG.
Watching this in case I get drafted to get myself out
@Porsche911GT38mmOEMBoschThrott I remember a time when cowards were kind enough to be ashamed.
Thanks for the engagement at least.
Foolproof way to get out of draft is to leave the country you're too scared to defent.
I went in absolutely sure I would be disqualified. Used an inhaler as a kid and was on depression medication in my teens. They explained away all the red flags in my file for me and qualified me without needing a waiver. I couldn't even duck walk properly. Some doctors will 100% end your progress, but you never know and it's worth a shot to try. You might get a cool doctor whose been doing it for decades like I did and give you the thumbs up to enlist.
Nicely done!!
I got a 31 on my asvab without studying with decent line scores, and planning to enlist in the start of dec!! Ill use this to help me a bit!
I remember when a recruiter bumped into me in a grocery store. Seemed nice and eager. I gave him my number and agreed to meet with him for some sort of assessment. We went thru the process and they seemed happy with all the little tests they gave me but then we got to the questions part.
See, he’s a salesman. And he wants to sell me on joining. So they kept driving home all the benifits. What it does for me.
Great, so what will I do? What job am I getting. No matter how much I pressed he couldn’t say.
Eventually he got me on the phone with his superior. Who I don’t know, sounded like a grizzled vet . For all I know somebody high up the food chain but no way to be sure.
Anyways he did the same thing. Drove home how great it is and what it does for me. But I asked the same question several times and they wouldn’t give me a straight answer either. Eventually I told the old man over the phone “look I appreciate the sales pitch but if you can’t tell me what job I’m agreeing to I’m not signing”
He didn’t like that answer but after that I hung up on the man and told the recruiter to leave.
My interest in joining the military comes and goes, I’m 19 so I got time. BUT, my teenage years were pretty… rough. My medical records aren’t at all incriminating when it comes to my physical health. Inhaler in second grade, removed my appendix at 16, I wear glasses that kinda thing. HOWEVER, I have a laundry list of mental health documentation. Testing, medication (adhd and depression), therapy. I function fine and now, I don’t even take medication anymore. How heavily is that gonna weigh on me? especially since I’d consider myself to be pretty reliable with high morale in my job and college, and those issues are something I overcame.
Southwest MO has nothing but good ole boys!
@@aarronforste8706 I don't hate it here 🤷♂️
9:10 so i’ve applied for the Navy. and basically your saying don’t tell them i sold my assault rifle to my little brother 🙏🏾. that would be a no no. gotcha
Not my realm of expertise.
✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️ going to Meps soon.
@@fmoney let's goooo
@@fmoney glory to God
Remember only fight for just wars if it’s a non just war say it’s for religious reasons and take a non combat rule like a military mechanic it will also help you when you get out
My recommendation is never tell a military recruiter you’re interested in joining the military.
Enlisted in the Marines 1963 & received a bus ticket, hotel room, meal chit in downtown mpls. Good memories. Had to google meps.
I joined the USMC in '06. My recruiter lied to me. I thought I went in as an open contract but my recruiter signed me up as a 0614. He said I was too smart to be an open contract. Lol
I’m going to take my test next month. Mentioned Option 19 to my recruiter to get my preferred duty station
The Marine Corps gives you the job they need, not what you want. That was my introduction to the big green weenie. 😂
@@thegrapevine10 yes and no. There are lots of variables, and a good recruiter will coach you through getting the job you want. Most of my recruits did.
@Frommilitarytomillionaire yeah I went in the summer 07' and a lot of the guys that I graduated with that were promised 0311 were told that they would not be receiving that MOS bas on the needs of the Corps and instead got reassigned to 0121 adman but to be fair ITB was backed up so much that they had Marines waiting for 6 months to be picked for the new classes. Imagine hitting Lance before your first duty station. 😂
has anyone had a record of seizures and still able to join into the military?
This has been a something I’ve been thinking about. Debating even getting a hold of a recruiter.
Literally takes less than 20 secs to call a recruiter
Ask Gemini AI or call them up
From what I’ve read u need to be seizure free for a certain amount of time and be stable on ur meds
If your joining the army and you mention 12b combat engineer they will push you towards that super hard
they shouldn't, unless that's what you want
When I was at MEPS, I heard some dude behind me talking about how he was only joining to, and I quote, "Stack bodies" and saying he only wanted to kill people
hahahaha, there's always one
7:05 I WISH it was that fast for the royal marines. Wait time is absolutely gopping, I faced a year and a month to attend my fitness test down at Lympstone, then another three months after that to start. And they wonder why so many people get frustrated and withdraw their application.
2 years ago I wanted to reenlist and go 12M, all the recruiters laughed and said it’s next to impossible to get that MOS, told them thanks for your time. One of them tried to get me to go back in but not as 12M, told him once it’s open get in contact with me. Never heard from him again 🤣
If you smoked pot months or years ago shouldn't you just say no?
@@chumdog6060 your choice. No harm in saying you smoked a few times.
I suggest being honest about that. When I was talking to a marine recruiter he was understanding about it and said as long as your honest about it and not currently using youre fine. If that doesn’t work for you find another recruiter.
@lurkdaddy5054 yep. At least for weed.
@@Frommilitarytomillionaire like you said in your video about getting asked how many times have you used the pot, I said twice and just stuck with that story. Lawd knows that was a lie lol
@lurkdaddy5054 yep! ...nobody knows, not even you.
I told a Navy recruiter that I had cataracts and lens implants... AUTOMATIC DISQUALIFICATION FROM THE MILITARY!!
Thank you
I told my recruiter that 8am was too early for me and I never saw him again. 😅 I was joking but I also wasn't serious about going.
Yeaa bro you should definitely come back 😭😭😭
@@chrisnorman3421 come back to what?
I'm just scared of boot camp I'm fat as shit, I can't run and legit I laugh at everything. I feel like the laughing is the main problem lmao 😂😂😭
What are you doing to train?
@Frommilitarytomillionaire just running, walking, pushups and situps. Just the usual
Thanks, I am planning to join the army this summer.
Hell yeah!
My recruiter told me don't ever say that again. I didn't. 11bx, earned my CIB, spent the last 15 years trying to find out what's wrong with me. VA doesn't care and won't ever get 100% because they can't prove it happened from war 🤦 its cool tho, I got my DVNF cup 🙄
hahaha perfect
What if you have asthma and it’s on file, but it hasn’t flared up or effected me while playing football (while in high school) in 4+ years and also havent used the inhaler or requested for one in those 4+ years
@@AlexIrwin55 you'll need to get a pulmonary functions test (pft) showing good readings.
I’m slightly similar to you in the aspect of asthma and high school sports they told me I need a waiver and medical records
@SheKnoJayy yep!
What flavor crayon should i say is my favorite, because i like the purple ones...the blue ones are too tart. But ill power through tht if need be
Hoping to enlist in the marines to go Infantry!!!! 💪 🇺🇸 🇺🇸🇺🇸
This is good ima say these all
I go to MEPS on tuesday, anything I should expect?
@@bayern1445 A brown bag lunch and lots of friendly smiles! 😃
Went last week, listen to everything they tell you and just do as your told… you’ll be fine
@@bayern1445 do NOT lie. Some guy lied to the doctors next to me while in the waiting room. MPs came in and they instantly executed him
Alternate title: 7 things you should say if you are drafted.
Met a kid at MEPS, the first time I went through, that got rejected from the Corps for having an "Antihero" tattoo. Literally, just the word "Antihero" on his lower bicep.
hahahaha
@@ryanm7832 man isn’t that like a skateboard brand or something? 😂😂 that sucks haha
@Matthewhall772 I believe so! Lol. I had forgotten about that entirely til now. I only skated in Jr high and a bit in high school, and in my mid-30s now (I remember everyone passing around CCS catalogs to window shop and fantasize for all the latest cool stuff; Darkstar was my JAM).
Send the politicians to the front lines for all we care. How many veterans have fought for country and this government disregarded them as domestic terrorist, the truth is they can’t recompense the vets for what they’ve done. And more recently the government has caused the military innocent bloodshed. Brothers and dads, used like pawns; like the man who addressed the president, saying, “you lied, there were no weapons of mass destruction, my friends died because of you”. And to this day there’s soldiers in Afghanistan fighting for no good reason. When the initial reason for sending men there was lies and money, or possibly revenge. Not to mention the government is in like 6 trillion in debt. And they pay people who sign up to give their lives for slave pay. Not even 27,000 for 2 years of service in the military I seen. Smh managers make more in a year at McDonald’s🤦🏽♂️
I'm not sure what you're ramblin about other than having drank the kool-aide of mainstream media, but even an E1 makes more than $27k in two years. You simply don't have an understanding of how our pay works, so you're going off base pay, which is intentionally lower so that you pay less in taxes
@@Frommilitarytomillionaireunderstood
My recruiter was cool. He told me to lie in meps when I had allergic reaction. I have allergic reaction to shellfish.Can you tell me just don't eat selfish
Hahahaha sounds about right. Do you avoid shellfish?
Part of me doesn't want to see Combat but also part of me does its driving me nuts mentally sometimes I watched too many old military or mercenary movies on TH-cam that's why
@@UCPDeltaDesertNightCamo2026 Don't worry about things you can't control.
@Frommilitarytomillionaire I wanna be my best self I'm 19 I'm also very skinny around 131.8lbs I also have a 2 yr Rotc Experience in highschool and a military larper
"Ohhh God. Why the hell did I say that? This is such bullshit"
-Specialist UCPDeltaDesertNightCamo2026, 2027 (two Combat Action Ribbons, one Purple Heart, and no longer-functional knees)
Edit: Searched it up and found out that the Army doesn't do CARs. My mistake
@Vortexgunner3282 ok al Assads Opfor from call of duty modern warfare
Very seldom does divulging more information than necessary, ever benefit you. In cases like this and court, it does the opposite
All I asked was how fast can get going
@@scamdemic1281 huh?
@@Frommilitarytomillionaire elementary school graduate here. I think he tried to say “All I said to the recruiter was how quickly can I be shipped off to basic? I’m ready to go.”
@NINELIVECORP thanks, I get that, but it's an oddly out of context statement that has nothing to do with rhe videos content.
I have like a hundred questions, and you seem like the most honest. I would really like to join the marines, but I have been diagnosed in elementary school with autism, not by a full fledged doctor. I was wondering if I got that checked out, how would it effect my chances?
Hey David, thank you for dropping these. As far as ADHD, aside from the standard rules across branches of being off meds for a year and providing paperwork for the recruiter for review of a waiver by the Meps doctor, what’s the best way to bring this up? I revisited a diagnosis over the years but haven’t stuck with meds consistently since grade school. I talked to my doctor about it and he said normally it’s just a letter he would write seeing that he’s been my family doctor since a kid and said it shouldn’t be a problem on his side from what he’s seen. With the Gneiss program it will pop up via pharmacy records so don’t want to waste anybody’s time.
Could a shamrock tattoo be considered gang related? I'd imagine it could go either way, but I just want to be sure
@@rexetelectric3811 I wouldn't, but I suppose you never know
Thanks, hopefully it goes well! It's the only tattoo I have and I don't feel like lasering it off😅
If it's a 3 leaf clover, that means Aryan brotherhood.
imma say "i wanna server and become a true patriot and become a brave warrior and make america greatest"
When you like comments that are false or are just jokes, it’s kind of misleading, I’m questioning things that doesn’t exist in the army.
I don’t think I would advocate hiding things from the recruiter. If you have not been formally diagnosed, yeah…you could say you don’t suffer from depression, suicidal ideation, anxiety, etc., but the military isn’t a psychiatric clinic. They won’t have the time or inclination to help resolve your issues. Some very messed up people want an escape from their situation, but they are already carrying too much baggage.
@qdllc soooo you're saying you should play doctor, and diagnose yourself?
@ - What I’m saying is that the military is not the place to seek mental health care…nor do they want to enlist people with psychological issues. “Self-diagnosis” is a double edged sword. From a combination of stigma and the way mental health IS NOT covered by most health plans, people are hesitant to seek professional help, and even then, a decent therapist will only “put a label” on you if they deem it necessary because they know a formal diagnosis will impact the patient’s life in both positive and negative ways. Many people “on the spectrum” (Autism) are self diagnosed because there is no affordable and accessible resource to obtain a formal diagnosis.
The military can do a lot more to weed out those who shouldn’t be there and determine if people with “issues” should be let in, but there’s a cost/benefit analysis involved. At some point, it’s cheaper and easier to send recruits home for “failure to adapt” than to try to keep them out in the first place. More so, if you take a person with psychological/emotional issues, put them in uniform, then end up sending them home when they don’t work out, invariably they end up worse for the experience.
People looking to escape a bad situation will lie about health issues if they think admission will deny them the escape they seek…which is never a good way to solve their problems.
@qdllc Agreed. Also, every high school kid right now thinks they've been depressed (because they were sad once), or some other illness, because it's cool to have ailments these days.
So I agree with you completely, but I'm also not going to tell people to be overly honest about nonsense.
People with actual issues are easy to spot.
I've seen too many perfectly healthy kids accidentally disqualify themselves by word vomiting.
Alternate title; Things to say to the recruiter to not get drafted
I wanna join the Marine Corps when I'm 18 or 19
Let's GOOO
@@FrommilitarytomillionaireGod Bless America
How bad would somebody's vision have to be to be denied?
Ask your recruiter to show you the requirements in their MEPS manual
“You can trust me with a firearm.”
Hahahaha Air Force it is ;)
What if we don’t know? Had a brother who didn’t know he had certain heart conditions but was still approved?
I am 37, own my own business. Am I too old to join the NG? Thanks for the vid.
Not sure, have you talked to a Guard recruiter? I'd call one
Recruiters don't lie but he blew his leg out trying out for special forces in a branch that doesn't have special forces. I only spent 24 years in the corps. Maybe he went to 'try outs' for some secret unit no one knows about. My son is interested in either MC or Army and we introduce him to unit guys so he understands. Wouldn't introduce him to a recruiter if my life depended on it until he has already made up his mind and knows exactly what he wants and what to expect.
@hallowedmeadow4636 uhhhh ...where have you been? MARSOC "Marine Corps Special Operations Command" was founded in 2006, when they converted a Force Recon platoon into the first teams. I went to assessment and selection preparation and orienteering course (ASPOC) in early 2012. Have orders to prove both the attendance, and the drop on request (DOR) due to the injury.
Soooo maybe don't discredit things without doing your homework to see what has changed since you left service.
Well that ain't special forces now is it.
@hallowedmeadow4636 yes it is. They're literally in SOCOM. What are you talking about?
Puts the “special” in special forces
Christ. USMC has always had special operations. Arguably, the entire MEUSOC, specifically FORECON, now Raiders, perhaps STA, ANGLICO, SRIG, and now personnel within MARSOC. That notwithstanding, Special Forces is a proper noun that refers to a very specific unit in SOCOM. Comprised of the 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 10th, 19th, and 20th Special Forces Groups of the Army. Special Forces are SF - Green Berets - the 18 series. We don't have those. A rifle isn't a gun, a Marine is not a soldier, and a flashlight is still a moonbeam. Why would anyone have to explain this to you? A recruiter of all people should know better.
I need a video on what makes you disqualified from a draft
@@ethanmitchell3439 why would I waste my time creating a video to pander towards cowards? You're not my audience.
@@FrommilitarytomillionaireLEGEND
@@Frommilitarytomillionaire 🤣
I have a pretty extensive history of substance abuse and mental health issues. Been hospitalized a few times. I went to rehab, completed it, and been sober for nearly 2 years now with no hospitalizations. I’ve been on one medication in that time span and a very low dose at that. I’ve been off of said medication for 8 months.
The USAF recruiter I talked to told me I would almost certainly need a waiver(s) for this stuff but gave me no indication of my chances of getting that waiver approved. I’m kind of curious about that.
What if, I want to join SF but have sold weed everyday for the last 4 years with no convictions or criminal record?
Then you either admit that, or you come up with a reasonable number of times you have smoked, and stick to it.
@ I figured admit everything up front, and see if they take me in cause it’ll most definitely come back on the security clearance after selection
Question: what about food allergy? I have a slight sensitivity to tree nuts, throat gets itchy and annoying, but I can function and breathe, and can move on. When I have a lot of it I puke but that’s as bad as it gets, can still function, will feel like crap but can function perfectly. How do I go about that while trying to enlist?
@@Its.Curtis1 if you don't require an epi pen it should be fine.
@@Frommilitarytomillionaire so if i require an epi pen i might as well just give up?
@deadlystalker7483 most likely, but there is a chance that's changed, so at least call each branch and ask.
Per your experience, How do state pardons and expungements pan out? I received a pardon by the governor and then expunged from my record for a felony assault ten years ago off duty. I know that is a serious thing but I was in before then caught the charge. Completed my first contract successfully then was general discharge(honorable conditions). My DD214 is a RE3 code. The narrative just says lost time with unit and transferred to IRR for contract completion. Thanks again.
Honestly, I've never tried, and if you were to walk in my office I would probably tell you it wasn't possible because I wouldn't want to deal with that mountain of paperwork. There is a waiver (supposedly), but RE-3 is the same code as "denying orders", and as recruiters I was told to stay away from anything RE-3 or below.
Also, a pardon/expungement doesn't negate guilt. The military's judicial waivers go off whether or not you were found guilty in the first place. I only saw ONE felony waiver approved in 3 years, and it was the only one in our state.
@ Thank you for your transparency. I love your channel!
@devincooper8495 thank you!!
I was on my ADHD meds, with an inhaler in my pocket. Recruiter told me if I wanted to join then I didn’t have asthma or ADHD. Guess recruiters do know everything ! Also said I would get to pick three duty stations and would definitely get one…lie…said I would have a future….lie….they didn’t lie about deploying and fighting though but the making a difference part was also a lie…