The Best Pull-Up Bars for 2023! - Wall-Mount, Door-Mount, Free-Standing & More!
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Pull-ups are arguably the most effective exercise to build your back muscles and overall functional strength and performance.
Pull-up bars are inexpensive compared to other home gym equipment like squat racks and barbells, which is why home pull-up bars are one of the best investments you can make for your home or garage gym: If you use it, you’ll get a massive return on investment.
We bring you the best pull-up bars for home use, including the best doorway pull-up bar, best pull-up bar station, best pull-up bar on Amazon, and much more.
0:00 - The Best of the Best Pull-Up Bars!
0:32 - Overview
2:42 - Best Pull-Up Bar For Most People
4:25 - Best Doorway Pull-Up Bar
6:02 - The Rogue Jammer Pull-Up Bar
7:19 - Best Multi-Grip Pull-Up Bars
8:36 - Other Wall-Mount Pull-Up Bars To Consider
9:27 - Best Rack-Mounted Pull-Up Bar
10:16 - Other Rack-Mounted Pull-Up Bars To Consider
10:52 - A Versatile Budget Pull-Up Bar Option
11:54 - Best Power Tower Option
13:26 - Final Thoughts
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My favorite: Gymnast rings.
Shoulder and elbow friendly. Adjustable height so can do ring dips too.
Gym rings have to hang from something, typically a pull-up bar...
@@fogfog8388 nope
Awesome overview, I've been waiting for this one since you announced you were doing it. Love your work!
Great way to start the video with you on all of those pull-up bars Coop!!!
As always.... great reviews and the only TH-cam review that I use before making a purchase. I am currently piecing together my home gym and am grateful to have you as a resource. THANK YOU!
Really timely video! I was just thinking about adding a wall mount multigrip bar to supplement the one in my power rack. Thanks for the review!
Coop, just flip the ceiling mounted one over. It will mount both ways. I believe you mounted it upside down to make it lower for the sake of jumping up to grab it. Just flip it over and use your plyo box to reach it.
But then your head will hit the ceiling at the top of the pull.
May be for head space above the bar.
Thank you for this video! Your comparison videos are my favorite!
The ones that hook onto the door don’t really work for everyone so I was hoping that you would feature better freestanding options for folks that live in apartments.
I’m curious, what were your thoughts on the GoBeast portable Pull Up bar? You know, the red + black one that is the copy of the Pull Up Mate?
Perfect timing. This information was just what I needed to expand my small gym.
Pull Up Bars are so Underestimated! In local gyms and home gyms
Good video review! During the COVID-19 gym closure, pull-ups were my primary stay-at-home exercise routine. I’d like to share my experiences for CONDO / APARTMENT pull-up equipment.
For a CONDO / APARTMENT, the first choice (but a bad one) is going to be a doorway pull-up bar. In the beginning, doorway pull-up bars are great, but constant use over time will cause the pull-up bar to suddenly fall off. One of the main support is the back top door frame trim jamb. If it fails, there’s NO safeguard. The pull-up bar will fall off. In many homes, especially condos / apartments, the door frame trim jamb is only a decorative piece of wood nailed to the drywall with two or three nails or tacks. When using the pull-up bar, you are pushing it up and pulling it down. It might be only a slight movement, but it does create a pile-driving force. If you have any body swing, this adds to the pile-driving force. Doorway trims are NOT designed, constructed, or intended for that kind of stress or load. If you are using a retaining clip on the back top doorway trim jamb, this concentrates the force and acts like a pry bar. After repeated use, the top door frame trim jamb will crack and pull off the wall door frame resulting in the pull-up bar suddenly falling off. In most cases, it will happen unexpectedly when you’re hanging from it and the consequences could result in significant injury. You will also have damaged the door frame.
If you have a commercial door with a metal frame as in this video, the doorway pull-up bar should be fine.
The second choice is the wall hanging pull-up bar. A stud finder is needed, but in a CONDO / APARTMENT, the wall studs are too narrow and spaced too far apart. I thought that there would be a big wall stud over my interior bedroom door, but I was wrong. The drywall over my interior door looks like its been riddled with a machine gun since it has so many holes after trying to unsuccessfully find and hang a wall pull-up bar.
If I had a garage and/or a home with *exposed* studs / beams, the wall hanging pull-up bar would be my #1 choice.
My third and final solution for a CONDO / APARTMENT pull-up bar was the Go Beast free standing pull-up rack. It’s NOT perfect, but it’s easy to assemble and disassemble. My only real complaint is that the crossbar is too thick for my hands so it’s harder and tiring to grip. I ended up attaching a thinner crossbar and gymnastic rings. It didn’t take up as much space as I expected in my CONDO / APARTMENT unit. I have it in my living room. Whenever I'm watching a TV show, when a commercial comes on, I do 5 to 10 pull-ups. This allows me to do my daily quota of 50 pull-ups per day.
Not much money for a home gym at this point, so I still have my 'As Seen on TV' Iron Gym door pull up bar. I had to replace the foam grip with grip tape, but it still works just fine.
I got one similar to that second one around 5 years ago for a wall mounted one and it has worked amazingly. I even used it as a holder for my punching bag and it is still strong and secure.
I have a door pull-up bar that uses a wedge system. You put it in your doorway and when weight is applied, it wedges the bar in. No screws needed. I use it with a set of rings (and climbing slings for quick height adjustment) for pushups, dips, pullups, etc.
yea i just bought one off amazon, the flybird. It works, but unfortunately its cracking my girlfriend's door frame from the immense amount of pressure it applies outwards, so its back to the drawing board. The wedge bars are recommended for very solid, large hard wood frames, or concrete. Anything less than that, which are most households, will likely see some damage from the nature of how the bar functions.
@@bradenalexander1568 I'm in an older home, built in the 50's. I think it might be a matter of how your door frame is built
I've used the doorway one for years and never had it slip but the doorway trip / paint does eventually get a little wear so be careful! I still worry that it might fall or slip (skull breaker) which is distracting... Best bet is a bolted on pull up bar if you're wanting to really get into the pullup game! Huge difference comparing the two
Known someone who hangs from the doorway pullup bar and does situps - that's WAAAAY to much risk LOL
Coop, what about globe style pull up bars?
Also a home gym treadmill recommendation video like this would help me out a ton!
Thanks for the sweet content!
Are you able to do a drop test gym floor comparison to see if dropping weights will damage concrete flooring? E.g. dropping loaded barbells with bumper plates and dumbells etc. I know you’ve done a video comparing gym flooring like horse stall mats etc. but it’ll be great to see them go through the ringer! Thanks!
I used to have a gold's gym door pull up bar. It was okay. It'd flex a little doing close grip chins and that was when I was around 145. I really liked my homemade pull up bar I had built at one of my homes outside in the backyard. 2 4x4s, a 72" galvanized pipe, flanges and hardware, 2 buckets, couple bags of quick Crete for like 100 bucks. Gymnastic rings are the cheapest and most versatile. You can use them inside or outside on a basketball goal, tree branch, etc.
Thanks for the review. I love gymnastic rings, and these pullup bar reviews were very informative.
I purchased the XMark muti-grip wall mount pull up bar. It's outstanding. When it arrived I immediately noticed the quality is really good. One of the selling points i chose XMark was cause it had the most bolts for installation. I bolted it into a concrete wall with Tapcon bolts & can probably swing over a thousand pounds from it. It was one of the more pricey bars at $190 but well worth it, especially considering it's never going anywhere.
These videos kick ass! Cheers coop!
Great video! Really helped taking some confusion out of the mix with so many options
I got Ironmaster's Pull-up bar attachment for their super bench. It's pretty good for strict pullups. Doesn't take up a lot of space, didn't have to worry about putting holes in the wall or damaging door frames. One of the main reasons I got their bench instead of a competitors
I did the same and it's a pain in the ass to do set it up every time. I'm buying the rogue jammer pull up bar now so I can simply do pull ups whenever I want without any friction
Cooper, great video. Thanks for sharing crucial info that have been of great use for me. I think you should do video about Wrist wraps and which one is the best. Thanks for everything and dont stop making great content.
Such a well done video 👏🏻
Best doorway pull-up bar is the “UD6” from a small company called “Easy Effort.” They make adjustable size doorway pull-up bars. They’re very high quality as well. I used one of them for years before I got my power rack. Also, the best pull-up bars for a power rack is a custom one from a custom manufacturer like Black Widow Training Gear. They made me a custom multi grip bar as well as a fully knurled, straight, raw steel bar.
I had the jammer bar and that thing is awesome. I had to sell it due to moving over seas. I wanted to get it again but the price went up. I originally got it at $75 or $85 but shipping it to Hawaii was an extra $100+. Definitely recommend the jammer. Im also 250 and it supported me fine.
Now, we are in a place that has a garage door so I can jump rope and workout without ppl seeing into the garage and the jammer wouldn't be a good fit but the titan most likely would.
love these kinds of side by side reviews!! I look fwd to your cambered bar reviews with new REP and Rogue bars! ;o)
Terrific review -- thank you so much!
Great content. Professionally done.
Great reviews. Thanks.
Neutral option is a MUST for me. I do both. Straight bar is better than nothing but you might as well get a proper one so you can work out with variation.
I have bought several free standing pullup bars over the years after buying doorway pullup bars (which I hate because they are too narrow), personally I think the KT (khanh trinh) pull up bar meets my needs. It's strong and can be folded away. It may not be the best looking though but they provide a lot of options for height and footprint.
First free standing unit I bought was really simple, took maybe six bolts and it was up. Well machined, and portable. But with portability, stability was sacrified. Certainly wouldn't do a kip on it, or lean too far forward or it would tip. It was also very expensive for what it could do.
Next freestanding one, was similar to theTactical Athlete® Pull-up System. Considerably more stable, cheaper than the first one, but it required a lot of setting up and it took up a lot of room.
The KT is the most stable IMO, also quietest, and probably the cheapest I''ve spent on freestanding pullup stations. The use of bolts for the side bars, and supporting side bars are ugly but you can certainly find workarounds or better alternatives. My only major gripe is that when its folded up it takes up a lot of height. So while it might be tall when in use with a lot of clearance, once folded it can be considerably taller.
7:55 For the ceiling mounted version, if you flip the bars 180 degrees on the short horizontal axis, you'll regain the use of the downward facing handles. If you flip it on the long horizontal axis, the holes might not line up, the short horizontal axis has the holes lined up already.
Very helpful! Thanks so much for your video! I might get one for our sons. Maybe the onetwofit!
I absolutely love my rep rack attached multigrip pull-up bar.
Awe yeah! The Surplus Strength UPS. Best 3x3 rack mounted pulley system 🔥🔥
Excellent selection.
Didn't see it listed here but Gronk's fitness company makes an excellent pull-up bar. I bolted it directly to the 2x10s in my downstairs open ceiling and I swear that Shaq could hang off it. Very solid, sturdy w/ lots of different grips available - very nice similar to multi-grip bar shown above. Worth checking out if you need or want something super sturdy / beefy.
I ended up just buying a Rogue Half-Rack for chinups with a matador attachment for dips. And then hang some rings. It looks ridiculous in my room but all the other options just didn't work in a condo with flimsy ass drywall. I needed something I could feel confident doing weighted chins and dips. A power tower cost almost as much and only a slightly smaller footprint, so why not just get a half rack so if I ever want to add a barbell I'm good.
Thanks, went with the Rogue P4
What about the DIY pipe and flange version!
Very good exercise .
Great video. I do have a pull up bar on my Rogue wall mount rack, but just ordered the Fringe Sport wall/ceiling mount pull up bar bc I need to do pull ups without unloading the Rack.
Ordered the FS one bc it was about $50 cheaper. I plan to ceiling mount it, but I haven’t installed it yet.
One thing that I considered when purchasing a pull-up/chin-up bar were the dimensions of the bar. The door-mount pull-up bars had terrible dimensions. I chose a LEOGREEN wall-mount pull-up bar, because it was $40.00, and I could attach it to a 2x10 board that I fasten, when I need it, to my door frame. I needed something that did not require much storage space and could be removed when it is not being used, because of my wife, ha, ha. I purchased 5 nuts and galvanized 3/8" bolts, 10 washers, and 8 1.5" lag screws. It takes about 5 minutes to put up and take down, with a power drill and socket adapter bit. I, unfortunately, found the rogue bar option to be optimal, but $140.00 was too much money. The nuts, bolts, and lag screws were about $30.00, and I had the 2x10 already, so I have a pull-up bar that easily holds me, I am between 215-220. and is easy to put up and take down. Great review though! I think you were spot-on!
We have exposed beams in our shed that I can reach for pull ups & chin up. It's hard edges make it harder to grip than something circular, but it works. I stopped using it for the winter. 0 degrees F. I worry that I'll damage the shed.
really like the more "professional" look of this video. Keep up the great work!
Great video. Question I plan to buy a Gymnastic wall bars. In case of having Gymnastic wall bars, do you recommand buying an extension to do pullups (or even adding rings) ?
Would your preferred list change Coop if the pullups and dips were weighted?
Have had one of the in frame pull-up bars for years. I have trusted it enough to hang from it upside down. Maybe I shouldn’t, but I’ve gotten away with it. Worn out the foam grips and had to tape new ones on.
Most comfortable bars I've ever used have been on a dip rack at my gym. I believe Rep uses the same ergo design on their FT5000. I'm surprised I don't see them offered as standalone setups.
I use The Stud Bar, mounted on the ceiling of my garage. It works great.
I never have enough room for an over door pull-up bar. Either the door i want to use doesn’t open enough or the doorway is right next to corner
Coop. Is there a Lat Pulldown attachment for power racks that uses a Weight Stack, instead of loading plates? I have Titan Series rack. Although Titan did come out with the lat pull down attachment for their Titan series Power racks, but you still have to load plates.
Nice rundown Coop! I can see why you did not give any love to the globe pullup bars, look cool, work your grip well, but not the best option for most people.
Anatomically speaking, the positions of Life Fitness grips on there assist dip/pullup machine are my favorite, just feels wright. Wished someone made a bar like that for home use !!
I have a calisthenics park 5 minutes away from my house. Can’t beat that.
what if its raining?
@@apcfitness Are you made of sugar?
@@morningstar8187 haha no but training in the rain is just the worst.
I was going to get a Rogue SML 2, but then I realised that with a wide grip, the poles on each side are in the way of the elbows. Same problem as doorways with a bar (unless you get one that comes out from the doorway). I'm thinking of getting the "KT folding stand frame" since it's a triangle shape on the sides as well, so the elbows have space. Then yea hanging Olympic rings from it. Can even bring the rings right up and use them that way instead of the actual bar. It's an adjustable big triangle, so it won't tip over with incline ring movements (would keep the rope/straps are short as possible for those movements, too, but it also has rubber feet). Other standing pull up bars have a way smaller footprint, so I worry about incline exercises a bit more (and don't really wanna have to weigh it down), and the Rogue is very bulky and serious, so the shipping worries me, and it's not really portable like the KT that can be folded up and out of the way. Easier to move to a different accommodation and shit. Not really looking to have a semi-home-gym in that kind of manner.
Will see what I end up doing.
Pull up and dip bars need a shout. Wall mounted indoors. Great quality . Can be reversed for dips . Can dismounted and attached to trees if fancying some Alfresco work outs
13:11 I disagree with coop. A power tower is a great option. You only need to do three movements essentially. Push pull and legs. To do that I have a power tower, a leg machine and dumbbells. A complete gym that works for me for less than a 1000 bucks including plenty of plates ( I bought pre pandemic) . It all depends on your training goals. For me a power tower allows me to work my entire upper body in one station that cost 200 bucks. Not bad. Then add any leg excises you like and you are on your way to being happy healthy strong and sexy. I have injured myself doing squats and deadlifts so I bought a leg press machine and use dumbbells to do lunges and goblet squats. It all depends on your training goals and what you like to do but I would be hard pressed to build a gym starting from a barbell to meet my needs. For me a power tower is the basis to my gym. I have 3 pieces of equipment. Power tower, dumbbells, leg press
I think the point he was making was that for little extra, you can buy a squat rack, attach a pull up bar and dip attachment, then you essentially have a power tower that you can also use for barbell movements
Same here! The Hoist Fitness tree is my go to! Add a couple 3 kettlebell to that and BINGO you’re set!
@@Lb-ri5wr yeah but I don't think it's a little extra. It's a lot extra
@@thepieman2742 exactly. Upper body and lower all set with two pieces of equipment
@@kevincarter7633 but then potential for a squat rack is so much greater, so many more exercises, adding different attachments, etc. Buying a power tower is like buying a machine that you can only do a few exercises on that you can never upgrade or get more us out of. So in the long run, squat rack is just a better option for most people
Love the Myrack option with the balls on the bar ends
Living in an apartment, I went with the $200 tower. Way better than those door frame ones
Do a video on covering rack mounted pull-up bars please. Considering something fancy like the Sorinex bat wing or the prime fitness system
Lol, I like how the most replayed part is the Multi-grip pull up bar. We all know we want that for variation
Thanks for the video, can you tell me the make of the first Power Tower (the one with the step). Thanks.
When you going to do the surplus strength ups cable system? They have a high and low pully I was thinking of getting.
Great roundup! I have the doorway pull-up bar you recommended. It’s been solid, but it could use some foam between the neutral and wide grips. Just putting my hands on the metal usually works fine, but having more padding there would be ideal.
I like my rack mounted multi grip pull up bar. Rogues rack, but similar to the one you have from Rep Fitness.
Since you had Rogue’s Milspec pullu-up bar in your video and didn’t say anything about it, can you elaborate a bit more on the freestanding dedicated pullup bars. I’ve bought/sold many power racks, weights, gym equipment in general over the years (52 years old). Even had an old school garage gym channel back in the day (maidenfan2). Really just looking for the best freestanding pullup bar out there now. I like the Rogue Milspec as it’s wider than a power rack and I have zero interest in barbell stuff these days. Since you have one, I’d love to hear your thoughts. Morgan
What was the weight stack/pulley system set next to the Titan Wall Mount Pull Up Bar (min 2:40)?
Good material 💪🦾💪
Thanks Coop Im very grateful but Im from Poland so it will be to compicated to send me prize
Coop, how did you cgi yourself doing pull-ups!? 🙃
Thinking of mounting a pull up bar outside on the walls of my shed. Will any of these survive the outdoor elements (rain/snow/sun)?
Thanks for making this video. I really like the idea of the Rogue Jammer but the way the studs are above my door it won't work. For those reasons, I think I am going with the Rep Fitness multi grip wall mount, just wish it was smaller. Taped out the dimensions on my wall and it's wider than a truck.
The people that make the yellow power tower (Stamina fitness I believe ) actually make another model that doesn’t have the box jump attachment that is significantly cheaper and yet also made really strong like that. That’s actually a much better model because it’s designed to go outside in the weather.That is really it’s forte. With just that one thing in your backyard you’ve got a complete calisthenics workout
The main reason I didn’t care for the box temp attachment is you can’t stick your body through because that gets in the way.
Which wall mounted pull up bar would you advise for outdoors, Coop?
I really like the Rage pull up bar from Amazon. Great build quality and price.
One of the few reviews for the Rogue Jammer pull-up bar. Thank you and caters to those who don't have space for a squat rack but want a vertical pull option!
If anyone has one how have you found attaching cable pulleys, bands or gymnastic rings to it (with the door open ofc)?
The reason that the power rack from stamina fitness, the yellow one… It’s so expensive is that it’s designed to be outside. All of their equipment is designed for outside installation so the finishes and materials are all designed to take the weather and not have any issues with rusting or anything like that. They do make one almost just like that that’s green that doesn’t have the plyo box and it’s probably $100 cheaper more like 225 and includes a pair of push-up handles where the box jump stand would have gone so if you don’t value the box jump stand, then you might save the money.
It’s actually a really nice piece of equipment for something to put on a concrete pad in your backyard so you can work out outside and do calisthenics.
Hey coop I just saw you at the big park in tulsa it was cool meeting you brp
Hi Cory, one critical consideration for me when performing pull-ups is the bar diameter, I did not see anything in your review about the outside diameters (O.D.) of the bars. Maybe it's just me, but if the bar diameter is too narrow for my hand then it's more difficult to perform the exercise and I believe not good for the small ligaments, tendons and muscles in our hands. I don't know if there is a standard-size bar that all the manufacturers use. I do a lot of calisthenics and pull-ups and muscle-ups are a big part of my training and I find a 1.33" O.D. to be ideal for my hand. Thank you
Now that the world is opening up again, I've been traveling more for work. Before COVID, I had a 24Hr Fitness membership as they have a supersite near me and a ton of locations across the West Coast and over to TX for traveling. I canceled that to build my home gym, which has been great. But now I've been trying to use hotel gyms to try and get some semblance of a workout in. I've been astonished that not a single hotel I've been to has pullup bars! Idk if it's like a liability or something, but a simple pullup bar is about the easiest thing to install, and yet they're nowhere to be found.
All that to say, I'm probably going to get a 24Hr Fitness membership again, just so I can train when traveling.
Probably staying at the wrong hotels. Marriott properties offer the standard life fitness cable systems that have built in pull-up bars.
@@jasonxyz4082 I'm platinum with Bonvoy, only stay at Marriott properties. They don't.
I’m surprised that the atom/rpm adjustable pull up bar wasn’t included. I was hoping to see your input on that bar as it seems like a good bar for family members of different heights.
Coop was wondering if the Rep multi or the Rogue Socket would be able to mount to my Bells of Steel rack? Can’t find anything on the spacing of the mount pieces.
Coop. Can you do reviews on cable attachments?
I think the Jayflex options are much better for the doorway options. They wont damage the door frame and offer versatility for grip and width.
I got a cheapo door gym for 20p from a charity shop. Always worked for me, during lockdown I was using it multiple times a day. However I am 55kg so it might not be as safe for a larger person.
Coop!! Who makes the joist mounted one in your gym? REP??
Agree that multigrip is the way to go.
Wanted to know what's the ideal circumference of a pull up bar? If you can share in inches / cm / mm please
Does the rep wall mount multi-grip work with common stud spacing?
awesome intro
Any recs for which is safest for hanging upside down?
What are the advantages of mounting it on the horizontal wood? Im about to hang mine onto a weak wall and was going to use wood mounted vertically now im questioning myself.
Have you guys tried the baseblooks the big bar. I want a compact pull up for my apartment.
That rep rack is a beast.
I have a Rogue Jammer in stainless with knurling above the closet door. It’s a great option, sturdy. It is worth the price. It is also great for hanging clothes from. Lol.
How do you find the knurling on the jammer? Some of the reviews suggested people regretted not going for smooth as they were getting calluses worse than using their OPB.
Given you've got this in a non-gym dedicated space, do you find you notice it often when you're not working out. I'm deciding between going for the black powder coat or the Stainless steel version and have guessed the stainless version is a little more eye-catching in a living room
@@rayjbb1494 The knurling is definitely more passive than a stainless OPB. If your hands already have callouses from lifting this bar won’t rip them off. I have no idea how it will treat your hands if you do a lot of kipping.
The stainless looks nice and is probably more eye catching than the black powder coat. If i were to have the bar in a highly visible spot I would go for stainless.
Been looking at the rogue crown bar. Any thoughts on it
I miss the wall mounts at my old high school. I have two pullup bars (one on my rack and one that I made before I bought my rack) and I like them both, but they don't feel as good as the memorable ones I used a while ago.
How much movement in the wall when doing some kipping movements? Just thinking if the wife will be annoyed because the tv is shaking a big while I’m doing some pull ups or something?
The best one on which you will train and not collect dust ))