I agree. I thought that the realisation of the Harkonnens as white/bald by Villeneuve in his films was sublime. They are far more menacing than the red heads in the book or Lynch’s film.
I liked the announcer, but the crowd of what looked like a million people was absolutely hype too. Imagine fighting in front of that. It would either freeze a soul or spark up one.
Austin mentioned in an interview that while preparing for the role and in order to get into a specific mindset for playing Feyd he watched vids of snakes, sharks and listened to death metal.
Sounds like something you would see in a 80’s-90’s sitcom, we’re some naive dorky kid tries to become tough but has no idea how so he just watches shows about “tough” things like sharks and rock n roll
i got too obsessed to the point i start buying 4 paperback books (Ace Edition) from the original to god emperor, also bought the first two books again (Original and Messiah) in different edition (Hodderscape), and another 3 books of my country's translation (Original books to Messiah, 3 books because they split the original to two volumes for some reason, it's Idonesian's translation which kinda sucked) This felt more like an addiction problem than a pride, and it's ironic that it kinda contradicts the point of the story about fanatics 😅
Another interesting detail about the black horned people in the arena is that they’re picadors. They’re meant to agitate bulls in a fight by hooking them with spears. An obvious parallel between the Harkonnen and Atreides
This is me whenever I mention Dune and launch into a full-on analysis to convince my friends that it‘s the best thing that has graced our screens in years.
Dune part 2 has cemented itself as a classic in just a few months and taken pop culture by storm and it's wonderful to see a movie that shouldn't attract the mainstream become so loved and quoted. The amount of times I see people around me shouting "lisan Al gaib" warms my heart
This was one of the scariest scenes I've watched in the cinema. Not for any easy jumpscares, but for the atmosphere. Such an amazing character introduction.
it didn't hit me at all, but the Game of Thrones part where The Mountain fights that dude in a duel was something else(truly shocking with the buildup/atmosphere)
Good writers know they don't have to milk every part of the IP, because they can come up with _more_ great characters later. Paul's kids are pretty well done in the tv series of Children Of Dune.
Book Feyd-Rautha, (with Hawat's helps) is actually pulling the strings, arranging to have the slave undrugged to discredit his uncle's slavemaster... but of course Hawat was evacuated from part 2 so they had to turn this scene around... Book Feyd Rautha is a more complex charachter, and you almost feel for him as a "failed" kwizatz haderach... the Bene gesserit also lament the wasted opportunity, that he was raised without moral compass by his twisted uncle.
And yet, when you see how the "Line Jumper" (which is what the term Kwizatz Hadarech means in Hebrew) and his "children of the women" (ditto) grandmothers fared, you wonder about how truly "moral" saviors and holy mothers truly were... in light of the BILLIONS the books state were killed in Paul's holy wars. .. which IS the point Herbert was making about saviors, messiahs, mahdis and holy mothers. Leave it to religion to justify and "sanction" the most heinous of crmes in the name of their god.
Also, in the book, Feyd had a backup plan, training the Atreides slave to go limp when hearing "scum" and he would have died by his own blade if he didn't say it. And then he kills the slave with a poisoned black blade - black being the color representing purity on Geidi Prime - letting the spectators know he's slippery and they'd never know which of his blades holds the poison - setting up his dirty tactics and his eventual demise against Paul. In the movie he's just a superhuman fighter, tossing away his shield and besting an undrugged Atreides by having a huge cock&balls, depriving the scene of pretty much all the meaning in the book.
@@TheRybka30 Well the movie interpretation is a whole different character and it's intentional. There isn't enough screen time to show Feyd doing all that. Instead they made him the same sociopath that he is in the books, except he doesn't scheme or plan all much. His main goal is to fight a strong enemy and win or die with honor. He lives for the thrill of killing and battle. Not as interesting as in the books, but still a fun and believable enough character in the movies.
The fights in dune look like a martial art because they actually are. They practiced Arnis (or Kali or Escrima depending on who you ask) for these scenes. It's a filipino martial art that focuses on fighting with knives and sticks. They're of course still scripted but, as you noticed, you can tell that there is something to their movements because they're using actual fighting techniques.
I believe it was all Kali; Arnis has mixed weapons, Escrima uses rattan fighting sticks, Kali involves blades and empty-handed techniques. I recall Austin Butler and the trainer/choreographer (who played the un-drugged Atreides he fought in the arena) added some dramatic flourishes into the duel intended to reflect Feyd’s fighting demeanor.
i love that he is almost out of the frame when he does that. it makes me wonder if it was unscripted or maybe he just has really good timing or awareness of what is in frame
My favorite bit from Dune 1 is the throat chanting guy when the Sardaukar prepare for battle. My favorite bit from Dune 2 is the announcer saying "FAYD RAUTHAA". It's the little things that make movies great.
I'm with you! Goosebumps all over with that scene.The throat chanting soldier ritual thingy on Salusa Secundus in the first part got its own fan base, rightly, but the whole Harkonnen franchise and Butler's presence made the Sadaukar look more like Doozers.
I couldn't agree more...on every point. Another little nuance of Austin Butler's performance that I loved was how throughout the entire final scene, when the the Emperor and his court, and the Harkonnens, and the Sardukar...everyone else on the Bad Side...looked appropriately and gravely concerned at their situation, Feyd seemed to be enjoying himself (maybe because he's a psychopath?) and almost rising to the occasion socially. "Cousin? I did not know that!" (polite conversation) "May thy knife chip and shatter!" (spoken as if he's trying hard to respect the local customs). He completely stole that last scene, and it was beautiful.
7:15 When you said "And you do it by this", I was fully convinced at this point that you'd pull that clip of Feyd doing his odd guttural call of rage and joy one final time.
This film deserves many awards. One throughout I cannot stop focusing on is the SOUND DESIGN. Man, the effects, down to small details like the vibrating shield device worn on the armor by Feyd-Rautha
Roger Yuan was the combat choreographer for Dune part 2. He played Lanville (Feyd's opponent in the arena.) He himself is an expert martial artist in many disciplines.
It's heavily implied by the director that's because his big brother and his uncle groomed him from an early age. If you watch the character with that in mind things make more and more sense.
1:40 - That Predator echolocation type of sound effect has been done so many times before. If they'd simply made faceless humanoids in black suits-perhaps speaking Harkonnen-that would've been perfect. With that said, I can't deny that this scene is an absolute feast for the eyes, and I agree with the many good points you made about it.
1:12 "Hans' early work was a little too new wave for my taste. But when Dune Part 1 came out in '21, I think he really came into his own, commercially and artistically."
To be fair, Dune's soundtrack space has been... Eccentric to say the least. I mean, David Lynch's Dune had Toto (and a theme by Brian Eno) and Jodorowsky's attempt at Dune would've had Magma and Dark Side of the Moon-era *Pink Floyd*
The whole soundtrack has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the tracks a big boost. He's been compared to John Williams, but I think Hans has a far more moody and atmospheric ethos to his music.
These movies were amazing. The source material was respected while adapting it to the screen. When little ass timbo chalameet unleashed the boom in his voice...gave me chills.
I’d say the only flaw with this scene is the fact that the arena is mostly barren. Considering how many thousands of militaristic and crazed Harkonnens are in the seats waiting to see a gladiatorial style fight, there’s no evidence of one before Feyd’s, which just feels a little off. They could’ve cleaned the arena, but that doesn’t seem like something Harkonnens do. Of course, it doesn’t wipe away the impact of the scene, but if the Baron did drug the last Atreides, then Feyd’s fight, likely the centerpiece for this whole occasion, would’ve lasted all of one minute.
I think that might be intentional as the harkonens are mostly lifeless, most of them are probably there by force anyway the same way nazi germany made all citizens attend their rallys. So less emphasis makes it feel more totalitarian.
The funniest bit about Feyd that I think doesn't get mentioned enough is the fact that he's only been fighting drugged up slaves, and the one who wasn't drugged up was an old man. Despite this, he still struggles quite a bit with the old man. Imagine if the other two hadn't been drugged up? Or if it was someone else that wasn't. And then when he gets to Arrakis, he makes a lot of bold moves that get him some ground, against an enemy that hasn't put their weight back against him. The moment Paul and the Fremen launch full scale counter attacks on the Harkonnens, House Harkonnen is quickly wiped out and Feyd is gutted like a fish by someone with actual experience.
When you are fighting for survival rather than just showing what might you got, the tactics and the tables are truly truly turned. Mechanics turn Macabre.
I agree with this, however I would like to add that I think that the intention was not to show that he has not skill, but how even despite all his training, the Harkonnens are just so dominated in their thinking by arrogance and brutality that they never really try to use skill. One Bene Gesserit in the book even says that if only Feyd wasn't born into the care of the Baron, he could've been so great. Therefore I believe that himself and House Harkonnen had the potential to be much stronger, but it was their narcissism that kept them down, and they could have been much more if they had an actual code stronger than just to destroy and dominate everyone. Even though, as its emphasized later in the books, no leader or power is infallible, this main difference in code is what lead Paul to be able to win in the end, instead of the Baron and Harkonnens
That "old man" is actually a top Atreides General. His name is Lanville and he's in a couple scenes in the first movie. Hardly a weak opponent. He's also in really good shape for his age.
@@bmbrowns1778 Yes, that's exactly my point. Even with his old age, Feyd still struggled with killing him, to the point where he accused the Baron of trying to get him killed. If one of the other two captives, who don't have the disadvantage of old age, weren't drugged up, Feyd would've been wiped.
Yes, many have commented, me included, but as I watch this more times I start to appreciate more and more how much the melody, soundtrack, plays its part..
i could probably count on one hand the amount of times i took a second to blink during that entire arena sequence. i was completely floored, something about it felt so distinctly *alien*, it was like i was perfectly in sync with whatever villeneuve intended to portray in those few minutes. the magnitude of the announcer, the panic-inducing score, and the cruelty of it all made it feel so profoundly non-human, i'm impressed that a work of fiction, let alone a short scene in a movie could invoke that concept and feeling in such a unique and distinct way. i hope i get to experience that again
I am 100% convinced that the theme played in the arena is the same instrument played in the David Lynch dune during Feyde's introduction, when Sting leaps out of the mist in a banana hammock while a midget tasers an upside down cow. Honestly I picked up a lot of little moments that felt like loving references to past Dune adaptations, it gave me the impression that literally every person working on this film from top to bottom had some level of passion for the source material and its legacy.
Feyd was the best part of this movie. Austin butler did a great voice that sounded quite similar to Baron Harkkonen I loved that his mouth looked black because of the blood coming from the self inflicted slice on his tongue. I didn’t like Rabbon because he was overacted and his screaming seemed fake and non intimidating, but Feyd… Feyd was incredible
“The sword play looks like it’s evolved into its own martial art“ that’s because it is. With the invention of combat shields which deflect all objects going over a certain speed, which rendered projectile guns and lasguns obsolete (lasguns hitting a shield results in a nuclear explosion) thus complex projectiles that slow before impact were invented, but were prohibitively expensive to equip a whole army with. So the average rank and file trained in blade fighting, and inventing a fighting style which involved fast strikes to put your opponent off balance, and slow almost sluggish slashes to get through the shield
One of the challenges of any sci fi movie is to create a sense of other-worldliness. This scene really shows what Gidei Prime is all about and does it visually.
It's not that he drools because the fight almost doesn't go his way. Feyd is literally over-stimulated by the prospect of being in mortal danger. He's literally only truly alive when his life is painstakingly on the line. His "bleayagh" was such a pure expression of disgust and disappointment at such an easy kill from such easy prey. Denis is the absolute master of subtext. And just that simple noise Feyd blurts out is so poignant. As if to say "Disgusting! Why are you wasting my time with this amateur-hour bulls🤬t?! You aren't even worth carving into meat for my darlings!" But when the undrugged man avoids his initial strike, Feyd starts to hope... maybe this could be a fun day after all?? He sees his uncle smile. And he wonders if he was set up. But that's not important right now. He not going to turn down an opportunity to risk his life in a real fight. This is what he lives for. And he's usually too protected as the heir to the throne to even BE in a risky situation like that. He absolutely loves it. He cracks a big smile. He sells it a little to the crowd, throwing away his shield. The prisoner doesn't know wtf is going on. He's already accepted his death. He would have rather been executed than drugged to embarrass himself in the arena. He's hurt. Starved. Imprisoned in an unimaginable hell. But if this is his last chance to kill a Harkonnen... that's exactly what he's going to do. Or die trying. 100% focused on his opponent. He doesn't care about the theatrics. Which only gets Feyd more excited. Feyd is done toying around with him now. He had let the guy take a free swing at his shield. But that was just to get his own adrenaline up. He's probably rock-hard at this point. lol jk but not really. Their next exchange is so intense. Perfectly choreographed. The prisoner actor is actually the lead stunt coordinator on the film. And it shows. Brilliant performance and movement from both guys. He's slightly distracted by the beetle people beginning to encircle them. He doesn't know wtf is happening, but he knows if he takes his eye off of Feyd, he's a dead man. Feyd is holding two blade, but the soldier manages to disarm one in the next exchange. Finally evening the odds of success. And just when he's about to take Feyd's other blade, the beetle man strikes. The beetle people are actually the Harkonnen equivalent of bull fighters. Except they use people instead of bulls. It's difficult to catch, but in the frame where the prisoner is hit in the back shoulder, the beetle man pulls the blade back... But the tip is still lodged in his shoulder blade. And there's some sort of white feather attached to it. He's been tagged like a bull. Feyd is FURIOUS. If he wasn't in the middle of something important, he would have certainly killed that guy for attempting to lessen his sweet release. "AHHH!! BACK!! BACK!!" The pressure is on now. Feyd has to get risky and go in for an aggressive kill... either before one of these hunters gets greedy and kills him themself. Or the prisoner starts to bleed out, and ruins the thrill of the kill for Feyd. He has to wrap it up now while the adrenaline is keeping his opponent dangerous. Just as badly as Feyd wants to get his rocks off, he DEFINITELY doesn't want to look weak or scared in front of this whole crowd. He'd rather die risking it all than being patient and careful. Feyd immediately disarms his man. But the guy takes his last blade too, and then swings at an unarmed Feyd. Butler ducks under leaps in to take him down. They quickly transition to grappling in a scramble, tumbling back. Ending with both opponents on their back. And the last blade pointed directly at Feyd's eye. Now it's a test of will. The will to live. With all his remaining strength, the stunt boss is battling to drive down the blade. Feyd has both hands on the wrist. The only thing keeping him from death now. And it's the greatest feeling he's ever felt. The pleasure centers of his psychotic brain are lighting up like a Christmas tree! And he wants to savor it. Drooling and moaning with utter euphoria. He could maneuver into a different spot. But he wants to keep the blade RIGHT where it is. Inches from his face while his opponent gasses out from pushing as hard as he possibly can. "STAY BACK!!" Time stands still as Feyd knows he is in complete control of the fight from here on out. Keeping the knife still, he finally closes his mouth and looks up to his exhausted gladiator. Then gives him just one more little smile. As if to say "oh yeah... this is definitely happening." And when he starts to stand up from kneeling, that smile turns to the look of death itself. Coming to claim another soul. And at last, Feyd pulls away his arm and blade to immediately reverse it, straight into his chest. This moment is the closest to love that Feyd has ever felt. Now that it's over, his dark, sadistic heart is filled with gratitude for the soldier who made him feel so much. He holds his dying lover so gentle. "You fought well, Atreides..." One last embrace, and Feyd ends it with a final rip of the blade... out his chest, and up in the air. Leaving his man to tip over and bleed out in seconds. Such a masterclass in subtext. Dune part 2 is a love story on several levels. Everyone is chasing their true love. Everyone finds it. As tragic as it all is. I think if we actually got to see Feyd go through the trial with Lady Margot, it would have been screaming and laughter... intensifying into a very big climax. Which obviously would have then transitioned into her "securing the bloodline". What a big day for the lucky Na-Baron. Happy birthday indeed 😂🎂
I agree, this was such an impactful scene. And the fireworks at the end, like inkblots on water ! The harkonnen world building is simply stunning. TERRIFYING.
@@Comporio I'm sure we'd welcome you, too. You certainly have a good read on Feyd. He's a fasinating character. The contrast with his scene with Margot is fascinating.
I love the Lynch version (don’t @ me) but Sting’s Feyd was almost completely about him being played by Sting and was nothing like the book. Austin Butler was given the words a direction to make him a perfect Feyd.
This truly feel like a pivotal series of movies like the Star Wars trilogy or the Lord of the Rings trilogy, but released in the modern day. I wasn't old enough to really be aware of the greatness of the Lord of the Rings movies as they were released, so it is truly amazing to see another amazing series of movies like that being made in front of my eyes now that I can comprehend it. Hopefully the third movie sticks the landing on what could possibly be a near perfect trilogy of movies.
I believe that the final fight sequence is also described in the book. Instead on the plain, the emperors ship lands in the city of Arraken and when the ridge and the shield wall is destroyed, the fight rages both on the plain and in the city, where Paul then fights in his past home on Dune against Feyd in front of the Emperor, fremen, Chani and Irulan, Navigators and Bene Gesserit. Nice touch that wasnt involved in the movies is that when the slave was not drugged, it was Thufir Hawats plan and also, the gladiators had a specific word that trigged another type of paralyzing drug in their head. Feyd usually abused that and had that word too, and when fighting with Paul, Paul refused to say the word, throwing Feyd off balance and winning. Feyd's character is probably the cruelest in the movies besides baron Harkonnen himself, that's why he's the goat
I was genuinely shocked by butlers performance. The thing I noticed was that he shared some performative aspects with the baron, showing that they are of the same family and perhaps shows that the baron is as insane as feyd just in a different way. Idk I thought it was cool.
I love these movies so much, its unreal. Truly worth going to the theatre, flawless sound design and visuals, and overall vibe. Also the Halo music is surprisingly fitting. Both have religious zealotry, based on a lie (false Messiah). Humanity (aka the good, or the Atreides) almost went extinct. Wonderful work 👏
The other element of layers within layers - plans within plans - that is so great about that scene, is the literal and metaphorical contrast it has. Firstly, the monochromatic element contrasts the flowing sandy and vivid blue colours of Paul's scenes and secondly, the scale, where the vast might of the Harkonnen arena is set opposite the mainly small-scale Fremen scenes. There is the main Paul monologue in front of one big crowd, but it's late on compared to the arena scene. I love these films and the director.
Not sure how many videos I watched about these two movies at this point. But having stumbled upon this one. I have to say, it gives me great hope for Dune:Messiah. Because of the director. Did it twice. I am pretty sure I'm trusting him to do it again. great job
finally someone talks about this part of the movie!! I LOVE IT SO MUCH!!!! it's probably my fav part in dune pt 2 and it might be the reason why i'm a bit dunepilled rn LIKE I JUST LOVEE THE VISUALS THE MUSIC THE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS SEQUENCE!!!
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ok now I want to rewatch them
me too
i saw 1 minute of these video rewatched both movies and came back...
@@Tony_Sab same here. never ending cycle
Well, guess it's this time again
u've seen the original?
“They are all bald, which is horrifying” is such a good quote
Imagine if Hair Club For Men had existed in the "Dune" universe, It would have changed the whole story,
BALD! Bald! Bald! Bald! Bald!
MY EEEEEYES!!!
They’re the Harkonnens, not the Hairkonnens.
Excuse you
I agree. I thought that the realisation of the Harkonnens as white/bald by Villeneuve in his films was sublime. They are far more menacing than the red heads in the book or Lynch’s film.
No one will ever again go as hard as that Harkonnen stadium announcer did.
The sardaukar singer went hard af too
I liked the announcer, but the crowd of what looked like a million people was absolutely hype too. Imagine fighting in front of that. It would either freeze a soul or spark up one.
@@odoaceroftheneoromanempire7178 that’s true, especially when they started the chant and that dance thing and the scratchy voice chanting
The Geonosian arena announcer from Star Wars went pretty hard too
the sardaukar chant, the announcer and dr samuel hayden are up there for me with the coolest voices ever
Austin mentioned in an interview that while preparing for the role and in order to get into a specific mindset for playing Feyd he watched vids of snakes, sharks and listened to death metal.
I wasn't aware of this and thats honestly so cool and it makes a lot of sense.
Sounds like something you would see in a 80’s-90’s sitcom, we’re some naive dorky kid tries to become tough but has no idea how so he just watches shows about “tough” things like sharks and rock n roll
explains the "blegh" he does thats a metal thing
I bet he listened to Gutalax - Diarrhero. It's the same guttural utterances, perfected.
@@worldwearyposer hahhahhaha ayes, straight out of the mouth of chris motionless XD
I like when the announcer says "FEYYYD RAUTHAAA"
Followed by the BWAaaaaGhhhHhh
@@Comporio real cinema
Same, but i like the brown noise that plays after he says it, lol
I loved hearing the entire arena chanting his name as he walked off in victory
Me too
I got so dune pilled from watching Dune 2 that I bought the book
As is written
The audiobook is your friend, the books thicker than Lizzo
I had the book sitting in my room for a few years. Dune 2 made me actually start reading it
this is so real it put some sort of curse on me
i got too obsessed to the point i start buying 4 paperback books (Ace Edition) from the original to god emperor, also bought the first two books again (Original and Messiah) in different edition (Hodderscape), and another 3 books of my country's translation (Original books to Messiah, 3 books because they split the original to two volumes for some reason, it's Idonesian's translation which kinda sucked) This felt more like an addiction problem than a pride, and it's ironic that it kinda contradicts the point of the story about fanatics 😅
Another interesting detail about the black horned people in the arena is that they’re picadors. They’re meant to agitate bulls in a fight by hooking them with spears. An obvious parallel between the Harkonnen and Atreides
That’s an amazing parallel
Eh. One of the houses should have relied on rodeo clowns.
@@Rocco049 The book is pretty clear on their roles..that scene is pretty well done in the book
@@jh6004 What is written about them in the books?
This is me whenever I mention Dune and launch into a full-on analysis to convince my friends that it‘s the best thing that has graced our screens in years.
Completely valid response. Dune slander is never tolerated in my household.
no need to convince, for it is absolute
@@inasuma8180as written
Dune fan, eh? I've got one for you. Who's the Quizatz Haderach? Is it Paul, or Leto II?
@@evbbjones7 Duncan Idaho
Dune part 2 has cemented itself as a classic in just a few months and taken pop culture by storm and it's wonderful to see a movie that shouldn't attract the mainstream become so loved and quoted.
The amount of times I see people around me shouting "lisan Al gaib" warms my heart
If it released 5 years ago it would have made 1 billion I reckon
for a second I thought you were humble bragging that you looked like Timothee Chalamet
@@recurvestickerdragon nahhhh I'm the bald guy
@@kiyanhakim384 you for real?
@@Default_-ij5oc it's not my fault I'm bald bro
This was one of the scariest scenes I've watched in the cinema. Not for any easy jumpscares, but for the atmosphere. Such an amazing character introduction.
My palms were so sweaty after this scene lol
watch the witch
it didn't hit me at all, but the Game of Thrones part where The Mountain fights that dude in a duel was something else(truly shocking with the buildup/atmosphere)
I couldnt believe Feyd had only a few minutes of screentime and was then killed off within just one movie, he was literally the best character
Its insane, Austin Butler is slowly becoming the greatest actor of his generation. Give him a few more movies and he will get his Oscar shot again.
That’s what happened in the books. He was more of an obstacle for Paul to overcome.
And yet…IT WORKED 🔥
Good writers know they don't have to milk every part of the IP, because they can come up with _more_ great characters later. Paul's kids are pretty well done in the tv series of Children Of Dune.
I wish I could find it but I swear there’s an interview where Timothée admits feeling intimidated by how well Austin performed his scenes
Book Feyd-Rautha, (with Hawat's helps) is actually pulling the strings, arranging to have the slave undrugged to discredit his uncle's slavemaster... but of course Hawat was evacuated from part 2 so they had to turn this scene around... Book Feyd Rautha is a more complex charachter, and you almost feel for him as a "failed" kwizatz haderach... the Bene gesserit also lament the wasted opportunity, that he was raised without moral compass by his twisted uncle.
Frank Herbert even explicitly stated that Feyd would not have turned out the way he did if the Baron didn't get ahold of him.
And yet, when you see how the "Line Jumper" (which is what the term Kwizatz Hadarech means in Hebrew) and his "children of the women" (ditto) grandmothers fared, you wonder about how truly "moral" saviors and holy mothers truly were... in light of the BILLIONS the books state were killed in Paul's holy wars. .. which IS the point Herbert was making about saviors, messiahs, mahdis and holy mothers. Leave it to religion to justify and "sanction" the most heinous of crmes in the name of their god.
Also, in the book, Feyd had a backup plan, training the Atreides slave to go limp when hearing "scum" and he would have died by his own blade if he didn't say it. And then he kills the slave with a poisoned black blade - black being the color representing purity on Geidi Prime - letting the spectators know he's slippery and they'd never know which of his blades holds the poison - setting up his dirty tactics and his eventual demise against Paul. In the movie he's just a superhuman fighter, tossing away his shield and besting an undrugged Atreides by having a huge cock&balls, depriving the scene of pretty much all the meaning in the book.
@@TheRybka30 Well the movie interpretation is a whole different character and it's intentional. There isn't enough screen time to show Feyd doing all that. Instead they made him the same sociopath that he is in the books, except he doesn't scheme or plan all much. His main goal is to fight a strong enemy and win or die with honor. He lives for the thrill of killing and battle. Not as interesting as in the books, but still a fun and believable enough character in the movies.
Feyd having a harem cannibal darlings is so good 😂
Those girls aren’t just unlucky standing next to feyd.. those girls are there for him to test his new knives on…
Feyd-Rautha Hairball Compilation.
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HUOOOAATH!!
No one:
Cats for some reason:
Why is this so funny omg 😂
The fights in dune look like a martial art because they actually are. They practiced Arnis (or Kali or Escrima depending on who you ask) for these scenes. It's a filipino martial art that focuses on fighting with knives and sticks. They're of course still scripted but, as you noticed, you can tell that there is something to their movements because they're using actual fighting techniques.
Thanks for this interesting info
I believe it was all Kali; Arnis has mixed weapons, Escrima uses rattan fighting sticks, Kali involves blades and empty-handed techniques. I recall Austin Butler and the trainer/choreographer (who played the un-drugged Atreides he fought in the arena) added some dramatic flourishes into the duel intended to reflect Feyd’s fighting demeanor.
There's also the fact that "the slow blade penetrate the shield". So, they have to slow down movements to a degree whenever shields are involved.
"May THY knife, chip and shatter" - Feyd Rautha
The Lisan al gaib has blessed us with 2 uploads in 1 week, as it is written.
As is written
Lisan al gaib !
Lisan al gaib!!
As was foretold
I'm glad I'm not the only one amused by Feyd Rautha's sudden hairball ailment, must've rewatched that part 5 times 🤣
i love that he is almost out of the frame when he does that. it makes me wonder if it was unscripted or maybe he just has really good timing or awareness of what is in frame
My favorite bit from Dune 1 is the throat chanting guy when the Sardaukar prepare for battle.
My favorite bit from Dune 2 is the announcer saying "FAYD RAUTHAA".
It's the little things that make movies great.
That arena scene was absolutely stunning in imax, visually striking and amazing play with colours and shades
The audio of that scene was incredible, went for a second viewing for alot of reasons but this sequence was chief among them.
"dune is a book" - blam
3:02 Hands down the best elvis I have ever heard ngl
I'm with you! Goosebumps all over with that scene.The throat chanting soldier ritual thingy on Salusa Secundus in the first part got its own fan base, rightly, but the whole Harkonnen franchise and Butler's presence made the Sadaukar look more like Doozers.
I couldn't agree more...on every point. Another little nuance of Austin Butler's performance that I loved was how throughout the entire final scene, when the the Emperor and his court, and the Harkonnens, and the Sardukar...everyone else on the Bad Side...looked appropriately and gravely concerned at their situation, Feyd seemed to be enjoying himself (maybe because he's a psychopath?) and almost rising to the occasion socially. "Cousin? I did not know that!" (polite conversation) "May thy knife chip and shatter!" (spoken as if he's trying hard to respect the local customs). He completely stole that last scene, and it was beautiful.
No maybe. Feud is a psychopath!
7:15 When you said "And you do it by this", I was fully convinced at this point that you'd pull that clip of Feyd doing his odd guttural call of rage and joy one final time.
Haha gotta keep you one ya toes 🤣
My friends tell me he has the tism when they see that
It IS a martial art. Most of the choreography is based on a Philippine short sword and knife art called Arnis, or alternately Kali Escrima.
1:02
"They are bald, which is horrrifying" As a bald man myself, you made me LMFAO.
This film deserves many awards. One throughout I cannot stop focusing on is the SOUND DESIGN. Man, the effects, down to small details like the vibrating shield device worn on the armor by Feyd-Rautha
Roger Yuan was the combat choreographer for Dune part 2. He played Lanville (Feyd's opponent in the arena.) He himself is an expert martial artist in many disciplines.
The black and white looks incredible and i wish all the scenes on that planet was this black and white
"Dune is a book"
mans spitting facts
harkonnen men are all bald? good thing paul took after his dad, then.
They’re bald because they grew up on Gedi Prime… under a black sun that emits pure infrared. Apparently you’re illiterate.
Came for the bawld, stayed for the editing style.
Underrated.
FR i found some of this way too funny.
@@LaughingSenpaii Thanks for sticking around!
Very funny how you used Feyd's "whluaarg", I loved it and wished you'd put it as a last scene in the video and you delivered. Thank you for laughs.
whluaarg
I am sitting here still giggling about it :D
@@leoyoman i watched the video two weeks ago again just for those scenes :D
Feyed didnt actually seem to be a psychopath, but a paradoxically moral man in a wholly psychopathic institution. FASCINATING performance.
It's heavily implied by the director that's because his big brother and his uncle groomed him from an early age. If you watch the character with that in mind things make more and more sense.
thats irrelivant. the question is can he somehow test the blade on his tough without cutting it
He DID cut it, though, just pay attention to his tongue @@jacob_massengale
My only complaint was that Austin Butler didn't have to wear Sting's epic strings. Otherwise, it's the best scene indeed. By far.
Only thing that Sting does better than Butler in their interpretation of Feyd.
Thank God, there was no epic strings
The editing on this is superb. Love me some Rautha hairball
1:40 - That Predator echolocation type of sound effect has been done so many times before. If they'd simply made faceless humanoids in black suits-perhaps speaking Harkonnen-that would've been perfect. With that said, I can't deny that this scene is an absolute feast for the eyes, and I agree with the many good points you made about it.
thanks to you I'll be randomly going "WUAACGH!" for the rest of the night
1:12 "Hans' early work was a little too new wave for my taste. But when Dune Part 1 came out in '21, I think he really came into his own, commercially and artistically."
👏👏👏👏👏🪓
To be fair, Dune's soundtrack space has been... Eccentric to say the least. I mean, David Lynch's Dune had Toto (and a theme by Brian Eno) and Jodorowsky's attempt at Dune would've had Magma and Dark Side of the Moon-era *Pink Floyd*
The whole soundtrack has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the tracks a big boost. He's been compared to John Williams, but I think Hans has a far more moody and atmospheric ethos to his music.
@dylankornberg4892 there we go I was waiting for this response haha 👏👏👏👏
god i love everything about the harkonnen design the navigators better be cool
3:46 This is genius! Reimagining Pim as Feyd is comedic gold! Wish we knew the creator
all i learned from this is that Dune is a book
These movies were amazing. The source material was respected while adapting it to the screen. When little ass timbo chalameet unleashed the boom in his voice...gave me chills.
For real. I wasn't really familiar with Timothee's work before but his performance as Paul made me a fan
Watching this before my maths finals 😭 🙏
Good luck mf
How was the test 🤔
May thy pencil chip and shatter
😂😂😂@@samuelpetrovich4998
I’d say the only flaw with this scene is the fact that the arena is mostly barren. Considering how many thousands of militaristic and crazed Harkonnens are in the seats waiting to see a gladiatorial style fight, there’s no evidence of one before Feyd’s, which just feels a little off. They could’ve cleaned the arena, but that doesn’t seem like something Harkonnens do. Of course, it doesn’t wipe away the impact of the scene, but if the Baron did drug the last Atreides, then Feyd’s fight, likely the centerpiece for this whole occasion, would’ve lasted all of one minute.
I think that might be intentional as the harkonens are mostly lifeless, most of them are probably there by force anyway the same way nazi germany made all citizens attend their rallys. So less emphasis makes it feel more totalitarian.
Pros for Austin Butler: I was on the set and saw he was the nicest person there greeting and smiling even to the last extra.
The funniest bit about Feyd that I think doesn't get mentioned enough is the fact that he's only been fighting drugged up slaves, and the one who wasn't drugged up was an old man. Despite this, he still struggles quite a bit with the old man. Imagine if the other two hadn't been drugged up? Or if it was someone else that wasn't.
And then when he gets to Arrakis, he makes a lot of bold moves that get him some ground, against an enemy that hasn't put their weight back against him. The moment Paul and the Fremen launch full scale counter attacks on the Harkonnens, House Harkonnen is quickly wiped out and Feyd is gutted like a fish by someone with actual experience.
They were Atreides soldiers, which were the greatest warriors in the Imperium, rivaled only by the Fremen, and…The Harkonnens
When you are fighting for survival rather than just showing what might you got, the tactics and the tables are truly truly turned. Mechanics turn Macabre.
I agree with this, however I would like to add that I think that the intention was not to show that he has not skill, but how even despite all his training, the Harkonnens are just so dominated in their thinking by arrogance and brutality that they never really try to use skill.
One Bene Gesserit in the book even says that if only Feyd wasn't born into the care of the Baron, he could've been so great. Therefore I believe that himself and House Harkonnen had the potential to be much stronger, but it was their narcissism that kept them down, and they could have been much more if they had an actual code stronger than just to destroy and dominate everyone.
Even though, as its emphasized later in the books, no leader or power is infallible, this main difference in code is what lead Paul to be able to win in the end, instead of the Baron and Harkonnens
That "old man" is actually a top Atreides General. His name is Lanville and he's in a couple scenes in the first movie. Hardly a weak opponent. He's also in really good shape for his age.
@@bmbrowns1778 Yes, that's exactly my point. Even with his old age, Feyd still struggled with killing him, to the point where he accused the Baron of trying to get him killed. If one of the other two captives, who don't have the disadvantage of old age, weren't drugged up, Feyd would've been wiped.
Those cut-ins with Feyd's "BLAGH" made me lol each time 😂
👨🏻🦲 BLUUGGH
Yes, many have commented, me included, but as I watch this more times I start to appreciate more and more how much the melody, soundtrack, plays its part..
Finally. Good Dune analysis
"The Real Dune" by "alt shift x" is the best Dune video on the internet tho
My favorite character in the film. A performance for the ages.
i could probably count on one hand the amount of times i took a second to blink during that entire arena sequence. i was completely floored, something about it felt so distinctly *alien*, it was like i was perfectly in sync with whatever villeneuve intended to portray in those few minutes. the magnitude of the announcer, the panic-inducing score, and the cruelty of it all made it feel so profoundly non-human, i'm impressed that a work of fiction, let alone a short scene in a movie could invoke that concept and feeling in such a unique and distinct way. i hope i get to experience that again
Literally subbing because you kept freaking making me laugh with the constant cuts to Feyd doing the coughing thing xD
"The nephew of the floating fat man" made me burst out laughing ngl. Great vid!
I am 100% convinced that the theme played in the arena is the same instrument played in the David Lynch dune during Feyde's introduction, when Sting leaps out of the mist in a banana hammock while a midget tasers an upside down cow. Honestly I picked up a lot of little moments that felt like loving references to past Dune adaptations, it gave me the impression that literally every person working on this film from top to bottom had some level of passion for the source material and its legacy.
0:25 did I just hear the Halo monk theme?
No, it's darude sandstorm
@@maxosullivan3382 haha I hate you for that
The editing and lil things in this video are so funny and great. "Dune is a book!" *punches book*
The most stunning scene I have ever seen in the movie theater
Feyd was the best part of this movie. Austin butler did a great voice that sounded quite similar to Baron Harkkonen I loved that his mouth looked black because of the blood coming from the self inflicted slice on his tongue. I didn’t like Rabbon because he was overacted and his screaming seemed fake and non intimidating, but Feyd… Feyd was incredible
“The sword play looks like it’s evolved into its own martial art“ that’s because it is. With the invention of combat shields which deflect all objects going over a certain speed, which rendered projectile guns and lasguns obsolete (lasguns hitting a shield results in a nuclear explosion) thus complex projectiles that slow before impact were invented, but were prohibitively expensive to equip a whole army with. So the average rank and file trained in blade fighting, and inventing a fighting style which involved fast strikes to put your opponent off balance, and slow almost sluggish slashes to get through the shield
Great exposition! I read the book in the 1970s and I've seen some of the screen versions. I have not yet seen the 2024 version but now I want to.
my favorite was the worm riding scene
Also valid
context please
One of the challenges of any sci fi movie is to create a sense of other-worldliness. This scene really shows what Gidei Prime is all about and does it visually.
The odd 'fire works' exploding ink was amazing even the arena shape everything so well done
It's not that he drools because the fight almost doesn't go his way. Feyd is literally over-stimulated by the prospect of being in mortal danger. He's literally only truly alive when his life is painstakingly on the line.
His "bleayagh" was such a pure expression of disgust and disappointment at such an easy kill from such easy prey. Denis is the absolute master of subtext. And just that simple noise Feyd blurts out is so poignant. As if to say "Disgusting! Why are you wasting my time with this amateur-hour bulls🤬t?! You aren't even worth carving into meat for my darlings!"
But when the undrugged man avoids his initial strike, Feyd starts to hope... maybe this could be a fun day after all?? He sees his uncle smile. And he wonders if he was set up. But that's not important right now. He not going to turn down an opportunity to risk his life in a real fight. This is what he lives for. And he's usually too protected as the heir to the throne to even BE in a risky situation like that.
He absolutely loves it. He cracks a big smile. He sells it a little to the crowd, throwing away his shield. The prisoner doesn't know wtf is going on. He's already accepted his death. He would have rather been executed than drugged to embarrass himself in the arena. He's hurt. Starved. Imprisoned in an unimaginable hell. But if this is his last chance to kill a Harkonnen... that's exactly what he's going to do. Or die trying. 100% focused on his opponent. He doesn't care about the theatrics. Which only gets Feyd more excited.
Feyd is done toying around with him now. He had let the guy take a free swing at his shield. But that was just to get his own adrenaline up. He's probably rock-hard at this point. lol jk but not really.
Their next exchange is so intense. Perfectly choreographed. The prisoner actor is actually the lead stunt coordinator on the film. And it shows. Brilliant performance and movement from both guys. He's slightly distracted by the beetle people beginning to encircle them. He doesn't know wtf is happening, but he knows if he takes his eye off of Feyd, he's a dead man.
Feyd is holding two blade, but the soldier manages to disarm one in the next exchange. Finally evening the odds of success. And just when he's about to take Feyd's other blade, the beetle man strikes.
The beetle people are actually the Harkonnen equivalent of bull fighters. Except they use people instead of bulls. It's difficult to catch, but in the frame where the prisoner is hit in the back shoulder, the beetle man pulls the blade back... But the tip is still lodged in his shoulder blade. And there's some sort of white feather attached to it. He's been tagged like a bull.
Feyd is FURIOUS. If he wasn't in the middle of something important, he would have certainly killed that guy for attempting to lessen his sweet release. "AHHH!! BACK!! BACK!!"
The pressure is on now. Feyd has to get risky and go in for an aggressive kill... either before one of these hunters gets greedy and kills him themself. Or the prisoner starts to bleed out, and ruins the thrill of the kill for Feyd. He has to wrap it up now while the adrenaline is keeping his opponent dangerous. Just as badly as Feyd wants to get his rocks off, he DEFINITELY doesn't want to look weak or scared in front of this whole crowd. He'd rather die risking it all than being patient and careful.
Feyd immediately disarms his man. But the guy takes his last blade too, and then swings at an unarmed Feyd. Butler ducks under leaps in to take him down. They quickly transition to grappling in a scramble, tumbling back. Ending with both opponents on their back. And the last blade pointed directly at Feyd's eye.
Now it's a test of will. The will to live. With all his remaining strength, the stunt boss is battling to drive down the blade. Feyd has both hands on the wrist. The only thing keeping him from death now. And it's the greatest feeling he's ever felt. The pleasure centers of his psychotic brain are lighting up like a Christmas tree! And he wants to savor it. Drooling and moaning with utter euphoria. He could maneuver into a different spot. But he wants to keep the blade RIGHT where it is. Inches from his face while his opponent gasses out from pushing as hard as he possibly can. "STAY BACK!!"
Time stands still as Feyd knows he is in complete control of the fight from here on out. Keeping the knife still, he finally closes his mouth and looks up to his exhausted gladiator. Then gives him just one more little smile. As if to say "oh yeah... this is definitely happening." And when he starts to stand up from kneeling, that smile turns to the look of death itself. Coming to claim another soul. And at last, Feyd pulls away his arm and blade to immediately reverse it, straight into his chest.
This moment is the closest to love that Feyd has ever felt. Now that it's over, his dark, sadistic heart is filled with gratitude for the soldier who made him feel so much. He holds his dying lover so gentle. "You fought well, Atreides..."
One last embrace, and Feyd ends it with a final rip of the blade... out his chest, and up in the air. Leaving his man to tip over and bleed out in seconds.
Such a masterclass in subtext. Dune part 2 is a love story on several levels. Everyone is chasing their true love. Everyone finds it. As tragic as it all is.
I think if we actually got to see Feyd go through the trial with Lady Margot, it would have been screaming and laughter... intensifying into a very big climax. Which obviously would have then transitioned into her "securing the bloodline". What a big day for the lucky Na-Baron. Happy birthday indeed 😂🎂
I agree, this was such an impactful scene. And the fireworks at the end, like inkblots on water ! The harkonnen world building is simply stunning. TERRIFYING.
Good video!! I'm sharing it in the feyd thirst discord servers, may they descend upon your stats!
I welcome them!
@@Comporio I'm sure we'd welcome you, too. You certainly have a good read on Feyd. He's a fasinating character. The contrast with his scene with Margot is fascinating.
"The floating fat man" is the most accurate description of the Baron I've heard so far
It's a quote from the book, IIRC. That's how the emperor refers to him near the end.
The Halo theme at 5:04 was perfectly subtle
I love the Lynch version (don’t @ me) but Sting’s Feyd was almost completely about him being played by Sting and was nothing like the book. Austin Butler was given the words a direction to make him a perfect Feyd.
You're covering the little know adaptation of the niche novelette! I'm so glad!
The edits of Feyd caughing up the furball had me in stitches lmfaooo, the Biden clip is gold too lmao
Yuan the fight coordinator/ Atreides fighter said the Atreides style was specifically based on kali/ escrima.
This truly feel like a pivotal series of movies like the Star Wars trilogy or the Lord of the Rings trilogy, but released in the modern day. I wasn't old enough to really be aware of the greatness of the Lord of the Rings movies as they were released, so it is truly amazing to see another amazing series of movies like that being made in front of my eyes now that I can comprehend it. Hopefully the third movie sticks the landing on what could possibly be a near perfect trilogy of movies.
"The nephew of the floating fat man" 😂2:44
I believe that the final fight sequence is also described in the book. Instead on the plain, the emperors ship lands in the city of Arraken and when the ridge and the shield wall is destroyed, the fight rages both on the plain and in the city, where Paul then fights in his past home on Dune against Feyd in front of the Emperor, fremen, Chani and Irulan, Navigators and Bene Gesserit. Nice touch that wasnt involved in the movies is that when the slave was not drugged, it was Thufir Hawats plan and also, the gladiators had a specific word that trigged another type of paralyzing drug in their head. Feyd usually abused that and had that word too, and when fighting with Paul, Paul refused to say the word, throwing Feyd off balance and winning. Feyd's character is probably the cruelest in the movies besides baron Harkonnen himself, that's why he's the goat
Bald people at their secret bald people meetings.
seems hard to keep a secret with so many millions attending.
I was genuinely shocked by butlers performance. The thing I noticed was that he shared some performative aspects with the baron, showing that they are of the same family and perhaps shows that the baron is as insane as feyd just in a different way. Idk I thought it was cool.
I love these movies so much, its unreal. Truly worth going to the theatre, flawless sound design and visuals, and overall vibe.
Also the Halo music is surprisingly fitting. Both have religious zealotry, based on a lie (false Messiah). Humanity (aka the good, or the Atreides) almost went extinct.
Wonderful work 👏
I love how you did this vid, the mix of respect for a good movie and being able to not take yourself too seriously. W vid
We should have more films shot in high contrast.
The other element of layers within layers - plans within plans - that is so great about that scene, is the literal and metaphorical contrast it has. Firstly, the monochromatic element contrasts the flowing sandy and vivid blue colours of Paul's scenes and secondly, the scale, where the vast might of the Harkonnen arena is set opposite the mainly small-scale Fremen scenes. There is the main Paul monologue in front of one big crowd, but it's late on compared to the arena scene.
I love these films and the director.
Did you mention that they’re bald?
Gotta double check but might've missed it
I watched this movie, and this one was probably one of, if not my favorite scenes.
Is bro doing consistent uploads?
Maybe…
Not sure how many videos I watched about these two movies at this point. But having stumbled upon this one. I have to say, it gives me great hope for Dune:Messiah. Because of the director. Did it twice. I am pretty sure I'm trusting him to do it again. great job
2:04 made me laugh out loud also watching the movies right after reading the book for the first time was awesome
The intro sound is my favorite scene of the entire movie.
Wait, only about 7500 subs?
You, good Sir, are criminally underrated!
Yeah this scene is great but imma have to go with that worm riding scene tho.
Banger. Another criminally underrated channel
Great scene, movie, Austin Butler, and great video.
finally someone talks about this part of the movie!! I LOVE IT SO MUCH!!!! it's probably my fav part in dune pt 2 and it might be the reason why i'm a bit dunepilled rn LIKE I JUST LOVEE THE VISUALS THE MUSIC THE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS SEQUENCE!!!
Rabban is so bald, his bald has bald
He’s so bald his head is very angry about it.
His head is screaming.
Probably the most iconic scene from a film I've seen in a while.
Rautha means iron in finnish (Rauta)
Instant sub. Great video love your humor
Paul kills Feyd way more brutally in the book :0 book is awesome btw