Boot-Camp Prisons Aim to Prepare Inmates for a Brighter Future
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- The Moriah Shock Incarceration Correctional Facility in Mineville, N.Y., is one of a handful of boot-camp prisons nationwide that offer shorter sentences in exchange for participation in programs that aim to reduce recidivism. Photo: Claudio Papapietro for The Wall Street Journal
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I went through Sumter Boot Camp in south Florida in 1986 at 17 and it was no joke. They will, and I mean will, make you become a better responsible man. I was 150 lbs going in and 190lbs coming out . No smoking, drinking or partying. All eating, working and plenty of exercise. Teaching you skills to be successful also. I’m now 50, own my own business, home, and happily married with awesome kids (now young adults) who’ve never been in trouble. I look back and think what my life could’ve been if not going through that. Probably be in a cage or dead.
Lol I’m from Sumter. Was it The Ranch?
Glad to hear that the prison system did you right. That's sadly a rare case sometimes.
@@fastestdino2 yea that is true but prison is also meant for people to stay and be tucked away from society
Yo still proud of your accomplishments my friends dads going through it rn he says it’s very hard but he knows it’s for his future I’m glad that your fate wasn’t in a cage 👍🏻👍🏻
@@matthewbey4950 Prison is supposed to be rehabilitate people so that they can become better members of society. What you’re describing could only apply for life sentences.
I was in Challenge Incarceration Program in the Minnesota Women's Corrections Facility, and it changed my life. For the people worried about tax money? Wouldn't you rather spend your dollars that are being taken regardless, to help people and lower the rate of recitivism? Instead of just spending on needs to basically warehouse prisoners so they can be released to re-offend and end up back in taking more money. Every single woman I graduated with, is still doing above and beyond their own past. CIP is an incredible program and I owe myself to it. Take it from someone who knows, who has been there, and lived it. It changed me, back into me. Helped me gain skills and confidence, and trust. It changed my life.
Carmen I am glad you changed your life!
I think this should be in every state!
@@jenniferbacon9659 I went to Dixon Springs boot camp and it changed my life literally. I was a troubled young man but 120 day's I graduated with a hand full of men that arrived with me.Its no joke I have a wonderful life now again thanks to the Boot Camp. Dixon Springs IL.Thank God for program like this.Amen
Did the program twice and second time I actually got the message the right way
@DatLogic. because his a dead beat
@@maurogonzalez2999 woah calm down jamal dont pull out the 9
More prisons should be like this. I would of much rather have done my one year in a similar style prison like this as oppose to the typical county jail
I knew they would use my job as a prison sentence someday
Right. I got paid to do it and i already hated it
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They should just make them all have the choice of joining the military after there sentence
TEAM SHAWN i agree
Not sure putting weapons in the hands of people who were law breakers is the best choice... If their offenses were very minor sure...
@@envixousenvixous5411 You only get weapons if you're security forces or being deployed.
@@cadeed9963 I was military... you get weapons more than just deployments and security forces. The majority of your Training in the military is a weapon in your hands and that happens every month on average.
@@envixousenvixous5411 Outside of basic, they had us tough another weapon until after I was told I may get deployed. Your experience might've been diff I guess.
All prisons should be like this.
all prisons? what about disabled prisoners? violent prisoners, mentally disabled prisoners ect?
Rikers should get with this program
All prisons should be adjusted to needs of those incarcerated I agree. The current status of prisons is subpar. We need to allocate funding to more rehabilitation programs in prison.
@@ChipChurp not allocate more but redirect the funds already being used.
ared18t why not more
Oh man, imagine a Marine DI being their DI
Exactly
Good
“Decades later numerous studies shed doubt on their effectiveness.”
These programs would work a lot better if there was some kind of follow on component that gave a little meaning and purpose to their lives. I joined the Marine Corps at 19 and it changed my life and Bootcamp was a huge part of that. Being a Marine for 6 years after bootcamp was also a huge part. Bootcamp gave me discipline and taught me a lot of lessons about grit and fortitude. Being a Marine gave me a reason to live my life a certain way after Bootcamp and that meant not engaging in criminal behavior, taking care of my body, and working to get better at my job within the Marine Corps.
These guys go through this program that gives them structure and discipline but doesn’t give them a place to focus that once they’re done.
This is 100% true. I went through a program in Illinois, got out and all I knew how to do was work out so that's all I did until I got hooked back on drugs. I finally got clean a few years after than and live a good life. It was a good experience and definitely gave me a big feeling of accomplishment. I think it's a great program but like the prison system as a whole, we need better integration into the real life component of society.
@@BryanDuffy o
All prisons should be like this. For those who cooperate, can be promised shorter terms.
Honestly they're really great thing I wish there was more of them they have helped a lot of people and I bet they would continue to do so
I went to bootcamp back in 1993...It was an alternative to jail/prison.....I havent been in trouble with the law since....Great program!!!
Now this is rehabilitation
Moriah Shock is the truth.Changed my Life for ever.Thank GOD,Here I am Almost 20 Yrs Later And Have Not Touched A Cell Again..I was there in The year 2000,,5th Platoon D.I.vSmall Hanes.I Say Small Because he Had a Brother That Was Almost 7 feet tall That Also Worked there Also..Capt B.Royce was a Sgt. at the Time..I Remember like it was Yesterday.Well Worth The Trip...
Yeees finally an actual rehabilitation program in the United States!! So exiting time to be alive
It's been in place since the 90s. :|
@@OlNineToes TH-cam recommending it now. It's not widely known and not that many people have access to one nearby.
This is genuinely a wonderful idea!
I support this wholeheartedly, they should also be allowed to go the military when they leave...
Agreed
Wow looking at this brings up a good time. That place change my life made me a better person. Big thanks to DI walker she one of the best ! DI Obeck as well DI wolf running like forest Gump lol . Squad bay one mighty warriors 1st 3:16 Da best runners there May12 2012 was my last day
How are you doing now in life?
Army BootCamp changed my life for the better and I have often which that ALL persons would go through the experience as it is SO GOOD for the character and gifts discipline and focus on that which actually matters. Gracious, I LOVE this so much... I want to see more of this...
I think it’s a great alternative to vegetating all day, but half those inmates shouldn’t even be in there
Thats what they should of been doing thats rehabilitation
I was there it changed my life...if you know u know...SHOCK
They should be eligible for military service if they want. A direct bus to boot camp
The smoking line is now lite for the mighty fourth......
Well it's certainly better than just treating prisons like landfills that's for sure.
Always remember that your food tastes better with your heels together.
This is great man
I went to Quehanna in PA. I did the SIP program. I can’t say enough good thing about it. The COs treat you like humans and not trash. I think they need to give these places more publicity. Many people don’t know these places or that this option is available to them. I had no idea. If you know anyone thinking about entering the Drug Court program, tell them to ask about the boot camp or the SIP (State Intermediate Punishment) program. That’s what it’s called in PA. Sooooo many people fail at Drug Court. If I was given the option of SIP or Drug Court, I would have taken SIP without even having to think about it.
Powers that be in Ga make big money off sending guys out to work! No end to the corruption there.
ha ha I was at this place Moriah Shock Camp it's by Lake Placid NY. It was alright believe it or not.
Justin Salce is it hard?
Rhonda Smith Its boot camp. The hardest thing is the physical trainnning and jogging. Also you have to remember cerain things like the shock is motto. You have to learn a bunch of things in the handbook they give you. I went there in September 10,2015 to march 2016. Now that I think about it,it was hard. I graduated from it bc I needed to go home to my family after doing 2 years upstate before getting shock. Yeah it's hard but you get use to it then it becomes a bit easier.
You have to have a nonviolent crime, be within an age range, an certain physical fitness to do shock. Yet it's a good alternative to years for some.
Really? Well, they need to have something in place based upon cases by cases merits ......they just cant sit in and plot or plan how to target their next man all day.....esp.when guards are short
California needs to the same with their inmates !.
Half of it looks like my boot camp
Which branch?
@@glauschtuckfereind5705 to me looks like you could compare it to navy
Based on Army regulations.
Emily walling - Are you still active on here?
UK Reporter Stacey Dooley visited The Women's Division a couple of years ago and she was blown away. In The UK The Women's Prisons seem to be too easy and cushy and many of the Inmates come back because it's easier inside than outside.
I saw a doc on women's prison in UK, they were in these plush beds and smoking, and IRONING their clothes????
Lakeview baby
Seems like a better way to pay their debt to society than rotting away
I always wondered if you got the option the worship in these places, I mean sunday's the sabbath and in regular prisons I believe you have the option to attend a chapel in the prison.
Hmm. Seems like a good idea to me. Wonder why the program has so many critics
probably because of how it sorta gives off the feeling of being too militaristic, but i also like this idea
I'd imagine that the establishment along with the prison-industrial complex would hate it.
@@ChiccinTendies pretty much this. Prison industrial complex rather doesn’t see inmates as humans and just a quick buck to be paid for by the government.
LOVE THIS. EXCELLENT.
"Oh, I was cured alright"
this is actually a great thing
Great program and it helps that why a lot of states did away with it. No longer making money off of inmates
Prison boot camps have been studied numerous times and unfortunately those programs do not improve recidivism rates.
I think this is a great program!
Everyone needs a little bit of discipline
All that training they minus well give them the option service in the military or something
This needs to be the norm
Graduated from the Titans July 11 2019!
ALL prisons should operate like this!
This is great!
I went through this SAI boot camp Chelsea Michigan a about 12-13 years back I was about 22. Even though it was horrible, the last month I was there I was in the best shape ever and highly motivated. Lol
The guy at 0:46 kind of sounds like Denzel Washington.
This look great. It’s like their own little society
A place like this in Georgia save my life
We need this in Ontario Canada
It is truly a shame that THIS is ACTUAL rehabilitation, and states only look at the bottom dollar and kill these programs because of cost. I myself spend 9 years active in the army and i can swear to you that the person i was before boot camp and after are night and day.
now all prisons around the world copy this
some prisons are already better than this, also the world doesnt share a budget.
This doesn't work for everyone. Some people will refuse to change no matter how much you try to help them (at tax payers expense). There will always be a need to house bad people. But this is good idea to try once. If they fail that is on them. And it should not be on society. One big problem is that for a lazy person who has no desire to better himself prison is 3 squares a day without any responsibilities. There are people who prefer prison to legitimate work.
@Grenherb because in the US prison is not a real deterrence. Try prison in Russia, Africa or Iraq. I guarantee you will do whatever you can to not go back.
Why is this not the standard ?
All prisons should use a similar approach to basic training. We are "rehabilitating", not just letting those people rot there right???
He left out trying to squeeze in the morning duty within those 15 minutes
2nd platoon DI ROCK is a battery he don't stop running....Very tough but the best at what he's does megee not to bad I liked him. DI trombley great guy really cares for inmates same with DI mehan.
MeHan coolest dude on the compound
If it helps to make them a better person then it's OK
I’m so Skull is like princess peach
Custer youth bootcamp 99 2000 2001 2002 and 2004in living center a... i still remember the general orders first being
Quitting is not an option sir
Bruh thats how it was 120 years ago in Germany.. That’s not gonna make them good and responsible, self-thinking people
This is incredible. Discipline, purpose, education, skill building, high expectations and high respect between inmate and officer? Beyond ideal in operation rehabilitation, for anyone! Grateful for Bill Clinton's approval and start of this program. May Trump take notice and expand upon this! Programs like this? Need to be implemented throughout the country. Very impressed!
Most ridiculous program. These inmates need to do real time & labor for their crimes
This shouldn't be an option. This should be mandatory.
What type of crimes have these people done. I'm really hoping that they aren't letting child molesters and people who killed other people go there.
Rewatch and listen. To qualify crimes must be nonviolent, among other stipulations.
This is a good idea
The Doctor a brilliant idea
wonderfull:)
This should be the standard for US prisons.
Just another step to a better America!
So the video starts with the second to last inmate displaying horrible horrible military bearing..lol..the dude is just gapeing around like he is on a walk through the park.terrible movements .
This is so healthy and effective and I am so impressed!
Can all prisons be like this?
That’s a good idea
All non violent prisoners should be given the option of something similar to this. It’ll be expensive but it’s better than letting people become worse in jail. At least places like these will help rehabilitate individuals rather than worsen our crime rate.
This may work for some but there are also individuals in our society that need to be executed as proper punishment in my opinion. I'm surprised that lawmakers don't seriously look to bring back the guillotine.
Amen . Guillotine pedofile's nuts to start. They all should be eunuchs that would halt prolly 99.9999% of those bastards who are lower than amphibian shit!
If the guillotine is the first thing that comes to mind for you you better go to an asylum
@@yoholup19 You don't think we need to get tough on crime?
"This may work for some" Dude this is specifically for non-violent first offenders.... not for "people that need to be executed" because of horrific crimes. Did you even watch the video?
@@driveronehundrednine3225 I said that it may work for some. I'm not against the boot camps.
You still have to see the parole board and they can hit you after doing all that work they still keep you in jail
Looks tougher than real boot camp. Especially nowadays
good idea
Imagine being fat and just dying in this. ☠️☠️☠️
Went to one in wisconsin st. Croix for 7 months and it was a trip to put it lightly! Most sergeants and captains served in war and they tend to take things a bit too far sometimes and not realize it. Other than that i learned more in that 7 months than i did most of my life😂 they teach you to teach yourself anything you want. But i was institutionalized the first day out. but I dont break the laws anymore so in that way it did what its suppost to do! But the Thinking for change prison program i think should be offered first as a 4-7 month program to get non violent offenders out and a more serious program for the violent offenders tbh
Not for me
Awesome idea I bet they're repeat offender numbers are much lower than conventional prison
They do it to get out of prison early. Yeah....
But can they join the military afterwards?
I went here in 1996 d I haynes.
What'S the point of the obstacle course?
Confidence builder
*What If They Fail The Course?*
No such word......If they Are determined they WONT allow that to happen.....no ifs, esp..when they are signing up for it...and assessed for it
Lets GO POSITIVE ,SO MANY CAN GO HOME AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN FAMILIES AND THEMSELVES.......WITH A OJT IN PLACE OR IF THEY ALREADY READY AND STARTED CREATING THEIR OWN BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENTS
No man or woman who have children or not.....should Fail....No exceptions.....Esp..if they are willing to open a few doors for you to simply comply and Take the Steps in getting another chance...
@@QueensCage Many fail all the time. I was there in 2000. Our platoon started with 77 inmates but only 40 graduated. You get evaluated every week for school, work, exercise, keeping your area tidy, your locker arranged and bed made, uniforms ironed, boots shined, etc. and if your scores are low one time too many you get ejected and sent to do your original sentence at a prison. I saw people from different platoons go home every week in the 26 weeks I was there. Then when we got home I saw a few guys violate parole within a week, one guy on his first day out.
15 minutes is lax
I learned long ago
Did anyone get an amnesty international advert about how horrible life is for some people but not one mention of Israeli horror crimes
They should make them work for the military to pay off their time
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Should’ve joined the marines instead
The 1 in Louisiana turnt
So glad they closed this place I was there straight modern day slavery seriously
Then you didn’t take it seriously. I saw how these operate. I was in Quehanna in PA. They don’t beat you into the ground but they don’t take it easy on you either. I saw 300lb males and females complete it.
I think high schools should be run like this; IT'S ALL A MATTER OF SETTING A VERY HIGH STANDARD AND GIVING THE PROPER MOTIVATION! We have set such a low standard of conduct for our Public Schools, that it should be no surprise that we have what we have today. How about mandatory Military service for all, right out of high school?
How about no. How about all the corruption the military is known for. How about how much the government and military use people to fight wars based on lies and greed. How about that
All high schools? Slumdog indeed
Randy Boone there’s going to be a lot of drop outs