Beta64 - A Link to the Past / Zelda 3
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- The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past helped form the Zelda series into what we know and love today. The addition of breakable walls and new attacks have been kept in the series for over 20 years thanks to this game. But A Link to the Past wasn't meant to be for the SNES at first. Instead, the game was actually planned to be the third Zelda title for the NES.
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It's interesting that almost every single zelda mechanic started with Link to The Past. That's a solid pedigree.
The game could be considered a prototype to Ocarina of Time in a way. Many of the aspects from this game were carried over to Ocarina. You could even say the jumping between present and future could be comparable between going from the Light and Dark Worlds in this game. Also Kakariko still carried over to Ocarina of Time as the largest town area in the game though Link To The Past had a happier version of the town I think. Ocarina of Time's Kakariko does appear to be happy but then you go to places in the village like the Graveyard, the Royal Family's Tomb, The Bottom of The Well/Kakariko Well, and of course the Shadow Temple itself. There is also 3 other graves. One has a heart piece, the other has the Hylian Shield, and the third one has you racing the ghost of Dampe because in the second half of the game he becomes a ghost for some reason. The abundance of horror themed enemies in the Kakariko region as a whole was probably enough to scare kids away from the game for weeks.
ZeldaKing64 That's exactly what I felt when I played OOT plenty of time. I was like "Am I playing ALTTP but in 3D?"
Aside from the breakable walls. While they weren't obvious, there were still breakable walls in the original Legend of Zelda game on the NES.
@@Densiozo I think Ocarina did towns better, and gave Link a far more personal quest. Though I found Link to the Past to be far more mature and cutthroat. Events like Blind the Bandit taking the body of a maiden, until made to stand in the light of day, the Flute Kid cursed to never know his homeland as he rots in the underworld as a hollow tree, the sacrifice of the maidens one by one by a sociopathic sorceror, handed the blade and shield by your only known guardian as he dies in a cold wet ditch during a storm, escorting the princess through the catacombs with her own temple guards after your blood, the execution of a priest who guarded a princess in your stead, his final breath a desperate plea for you to save her life, and being the first being to traverse a world of darkness as a being of light really carried a lot of weight with me.
Nes Zelda : Prototype
Nes Zelda 2 : Cool platformer, continues Nes Zelda storyline/feel
SNES Zelda : Elaborates heavily on Zelda 1, adding many rpg and new game mechanics to the Nes Zelda overhead pokesword battler original
Gameboy Links Awakening : Heavily uses SNES Zelda Mechanics, whole new story
N64 Zelda1 : Takes almost exact same story from SNES Zelda and turns it into a 3d adventure game, but with whole new gameplay
N64 ZeldaMajora : Same gameplay mechanics as N64Zelda1 but with a whole new story (using characters from N64 Zelda)
Gamecube Windwaker : Uses N64 Zelda1 Mechanics, whole new story, +weirdDragonBoatGuy +pirates ++humour
I think we know the rest...
That's so cool that we got one of the most iconic Zelda moves, the spin attack, just because of development limitations. Frankly, I'm glad; the spin attack is way cooler than a diagonal slice.
Samus' varia suit came about the same way!
Yeah but no one uses it. lol
I also wonder if ti's why Link's attack improved. In the original Zelda, he stabbed it forward like a dagger, and could only hit what was directly in front of him. The SNES slash goes through the diagonal.
ZipplyZane I would imagine it was also the limitations of the NES that caused them to give Link a stab, animating a full slash would have taken much more.
This Nordic and Nerdy guy seems like a butt
The game would have been so different if that one rock was there. :(
I always felt like something was missing at that bridge. This video confirms that it was the rock.
XD
Ikr
NSTYFatMan rip
What did the rock ever do to the development team?
I never knew you could use the pegasus boots to destroy the breakable walls...
+Stephen O'Brien Only some of them though.
I would wager that the 4 unused "villager" sprite sets are the now un-brainwashed soldiers in civilian garb.
They look a bit similar to the Wizzrobes throwing beams at you.
3:12
"255 rubies"
NO, NO NO NO.
"RUPEES."
Lamp oil, rope, bomb? You want it, you got it my friend, as long as you have enough rubees.
Greatest meme in that subseries.
JawaKiller I'm sorry what? No "I wonder what's for dinner?"
Zain Dhanani Nah. Especially in comparison to "Come back when you are a little, MMMM...Richer!"
Its yours my friend
as long as you have enough RUBIES
2:20 The visible cracks weren't chosen _instead_ of hollow sounds, they were added _in addition to_ hollow sounds. You can still tap the walls by holding the attack button and pressing d in the direction of a wall.
heh-heh... Link in the Description...
So... what exactly was Triforce Saga then? I know it's fake but what was the game shown?
420 69 it
"this comment is the truth! lol"
nah not really
all zelda games are fine, perspective of however that game is, well that's just retarded
The Triforce Saga is might be referring to the earlier Game Boy Zelda games; "Oracle of Ages" which focuses on Nayru, and "Oracle of Seasons" which focuses on Din. Both these games came out in 2001. The Zelda III hoax came out in 2005, so it probably tried to cash in on the idea of faking a "beta" of the Oracle game series.
There was suppose to be a third Oracle game that more focused on Farore, but was cut.
ALL zelda are fine? Even the CDI?
i said zelda games not spin off games.
Great episode, learned a couple things!
Just a clarification: the hidden/cracked wall sounds are still in the game. Most materials in the game produce different sounds when being walked into with the sword drawn, including cracked walls/doors/etc.
This game is and will always stay by far my favorite
what i really like about this game when i was a kid was a ll the mystery, it was cool every time u played it you found a secret some thing new and its not like you could use the internet to find anything
I like this preschool approach. " there are THREE blocks in this picture, and there are FOUR blocks in this picture!"
Again great video.
But I was watching it again and I do feel compelled to point out a few mistakes I overlooked during my initial viewing.
2:07 Breakable walls can still be tapped by Link's sword in the released version of the game. By charging the a Spin Attack and holding it, then walking up to a wall Link is facing, he will begin to tap it with his sword, and Breakable Walls do indeed make different sounds. You made it sound as though the feature wasn't implemented. Though granted the visible cracks did make it near useless, there are a few parts were it helps out.
10:09 Silicon Knight did not create Metal Gear. They created *a Metal Gear*, more specifically the Gamecube remake of Metal Gear Solid called The Twin Snakes.
Solid comment remaining in current year 2022
Another thing that sprang to mind about the "Beta" Zelda 3 cartridge is, why would Nintendo put the beta on a 72-Pin Nintendo cartridge as opposed to a 60-Pin Famicom cartridge?
Funny enough some NES Hogan's Alley cartridges are secretly 60-pin Famicom boards with an adapter. This was done due to a shortage of 72 pin cartridges
@@williamdrum9899 its not just hogan's alley....
An 8-bit variable holds up to 256, but since 0 is also counted, the LIMIT is 255.
8 Years and its still my favorite Episode.
Breakable walls were in the original zelda.
Ya i was like damn bro how tf do u not know that.
bombable yes, not breakable bc there was no dash
Ya but thats not really an addition thats just another way to break cracked walls. Even if some are only breakable by bombs. But either way u right 👍
Yes but you couldn't even FRIGGIN TELL HALF THE TIME
They obviously meant "visibly" breakable walls.
5:37 I accidentally pressed on Link in the video, it went on pause. xD
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Great video! This series is amazing. I can't wait for the next one!
I love how this game is in the SNES collection. Never did beat it, but since I have a year, two months, and ten days of online left, maybe this time I finally will.
Did you do it?
Didya beat it?
In my honest point of view, I say both A link to the past and Ocarina of time prove to the entire world of gaming a great success they became. At least Zelda 3 didn't suffer the same fate like Ocarina of time when the URA was taken off instead of being used to expand more the Ocarina of time adventure.
If there was A link between worlds, it's because Nintendo knows what's the best Nintendo games should be used for not only remakes, but for also new stories to make, as long as the originality and the true magic behind these timeless titles does not vanish.
this was also my first zelda game i properly played, i experienced my first time pulling the mastersword on this one. it was well earned too as it took me a huge amount of time and effort to get there. it was glorious!
Breakable walls were in the original zelda for nes, you used bombs to break them.
heez got a point
SO WHAT
SILICON KNIGHTS CREATORS OF METAL GEAR!??? REAlly? really? yeah that must be the reason why everyone is mad at Konami because silicion knights clearly made metal gear NOt Konami yeah that makes sense... -_-
lol
Yep. They were involved in Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, but nothing else when it comes to Metal Gear.
i loved with link between worlds, it was the first time i played a 60fps game and when the title screen loaded i was like,
WOOOOAHHH!
Do the beta of super mario world
Austin Heeres YES
Holy crap, it came true.
I can't believe you missed the biggest thing. Compare the betas again, the perspectives are different. They were either using a bigger tile set or had it zoomed in. If you look close and count the tiles you will see the tile number counts are the same, and the tiles look bigger.
I don't even think they were capable of having a zoom feature. That tileset might of been 18x18 pixels instead of the 16x16 in the final version
+PersistentPixels The beta images are taken from magazine scans and have likely been cropped/enlarged. It'd be highly, highly irregular for a game from this era not to divide its graphics data by sets of 8/16/32/etc. pixels.
Wish me luck. I embark on my journey to play and beat Link to the Past for the first time.
Did you ever beat it?
You’ve met with a terrible fate, haven’t you?
XD
He just now got the master sword lol
The skull statues were technically used. Using the free movement glitch that lets you walk outside the map in a dungeon, allowing you to get to pretty much any room in the game, there's at least one room that has the skull statues. The room itself just isn't used anywhere, but it is technically in the game still, and you can get to it with the glitch.
Not a big difference to what you said, but it's not technically unused. They just didn't put any doors that lead to that room anywhere in the game.
"Incredibly Polished" have you ever seen a speedrun?
Peggy Hill yes and every zelda game is heavily broken
CorrosiveGamers Not exactly, since most of the glitches in zelda games arent accessible unless you actually try to do them.
Jorden robert Ya I guess you got me there.
this game is a legend.....that music is so epic
A game which introduced me to RPG games. Loved it!
Favorite game of all time. I am so glad to see real beta footage of this game.
One of my favorites games ever, thanks for this video
Well saw the longest ad in my life before watching a classic game room review. So I'm here and subscribed
Wow... I never knew you could run into the cracked walls until now! 20+ years later!....
One_With_God 33 neither did I O_o the amount of bombs...
seriously lol i just played thru it this weekend n bombed every one of those walls >
There's a thing called Minish Cap; it's one of the most underrated Zelda games of all time
RandomMcSomethin I swear I need to beat Minish Cap I played it on emulators twice on my phone but everytime I get to the second to last dungeon I always wind stop changing phone LOL XD
Your so fucking right
Minish Cap was the first Zelda game I completed. I absolutely love that game.
I was a bit disappointed with Minish Cap... To me it felt like a downgrade compared to the excellent Oracle games. (Except for the graphics obviously.)
The Chris Houlihan room is actually alive and well in the pal version of the game as well...
I've used a tutorial in the past in order to make it appear, and that was on a pal territory cartridge.
This is *the* game I grew up on. I was 7 when it came out and we got it, and though I'd played 1 and 2 on the NES, I usually just watched my big brother. I played through this game so many times, sometimes just to steal the guy's sign and make him follow me.
I dig the overall colours of the beta so much more than the original game. They're just so much warmer!
i really hate it when people call a link between worlds the sequel to a link to the past completely forgetting that links awakening is a direct sequel to a link to the past
Link's Awakening actually takes place after the Oracle series, according to the time line
Yes but when the game was made it was intended as a direct sequel. A link between worlds takes place like a 100 years after a link to the past so imo you cannot call it a sequel
It's more of a direct sequel in the sense that it takes place in the exact same version of Hyrule (even if many years later in the timeline) and shares many gameplay and presentation elements as LttP.
yes but its not the first sequel and links awakening should not be forgottem
You can also play BS Zelda using Zelda Classic, which is basically an application that emulates the first game.
Visible cracks were chosen on breakable walls but the hollow sounds are still there, it's how you identify a cracked wall that is or isn't breakable.
Praise Miyamoto, provider of crumbly walls! It still astounds me that no one's made a simple hack of Zelda 1 that adds in a crumbly wall graphic and maybe a tiny dead tree graphic as well. I do enjoy the old school map referencing sometimes, but I think more people would be able to get into the game if it had some modernized facets to optimize it. :o
The best Zelda game of all time.
You know what I just had a weird idea: remaking the first three Zelda games into 3 D games. Taking the dungeondesign of the originals and porting it into a 3 D engine.
I think this is the first video of yours I have watched. Pretty awesome! I have just subscribed.
The first time I played the game was the Japanese Super Famicom version on my Super Famicom I had bought with a voltage converter. The game was really difficult because it was hard to figure out what to do next because the text was in Japanese but I struggled through it. When it came out here in English I had finished the Japanese version many times so I knew everything to do. I remember they had a demo cart at a Captron Nintendo video game store before the game was officially released and I played the game there and the employees and gamers watching me couldn't believe how good I was at the game. They thought I was playing it for the first time and marveled at me being able to figure out where to go and what to do next so fast. They didn't know I had already completed the Japanese Super Famicom version dozens of times. I had a lot of fun impressing everyone at how good at the game I was. I did the same thing with Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger. Completed the Japanese Super Famicom version before the game was released here. There was a Japanese toy store in downtown Los Angeles and I went there and bought all the Super Famicom RPG's before they came out here.
2:28 The sound idea wasn't scrapped in the process! We can still hear sounds if we touch cracked walls. And what you're saying isn't totally true since in the Zelda ALTTP style game on the Sattelaview, the cracks were removed from most part of the dungeons.
I just realised why people are hyping it up so much. It had a story, a huge map, two huge maps in fact, loads of items, good music and more. What I didn't get is that although plenty of other Zelda games live up to this standard it was the first to do it all, it revolutionized the series. It is the game that left Zelda II in the dust.
There was breakable walls in the first Zelda game
dead and you had to do trial and error to do it. It's boring
Boom-able walls, not breakable. And not visibly able to tell either.
After seeing some stuff from the early stages of Zelda: Spirit Tracks, I'd like to see you do a Beta64 on Spirit Tracks! Maybe one on the whole DS Zelda series!
I never knew Dream was a part of A Link to The Past at one point.
I love your videos Beta 64, keep on making em you got my support, I love seeing your videos pop up in my feed!
I know this video is old, but the Chris Houlihan room is accessible if you start the game at the sanctuary and get to the hole near the castle in a quick enough time. Its available in the SNES versions.
Timestamps for A Link to the Past
0:00: Intro
0:50: Zelda 3’s Development Story
1:24: Many Ideas were Considered and Tested
1:34: Diagonal Movement
1:42: The Spin Attack
2:06: Breakable Walls
2:26: Some Other Ideas
2:40: Screenshot Changes
5:00: Unused Sanctuary Entrance
5:19: Unused Skull Statue
5:39: Unused Stopwatch
6:01: A Small and Large Bone with Meat
6:16: Unused Letter
6:42: Unused Graphics
7:10: A Dark World Bat
7:20: Unused Canon Trooper
7:31: Unused Hyrulian Soldier Helmet
7:55: Unused Happy and Mad Face
8:01: Unused Melting Animation
8:36: The Chris Houlihan Room
9:29: The Fake NES Cartridge
10:53: A Fake SNES Cartridge
11:06: Outro
8:04: (Most Replayed)
Silicon Knights only made the Gamecube remake of Metal Gear Solid, not the entire series.
I would agree that "freedom" of exploration sets it apart from other games. However, I never count sandbox-like freedom for exploration as an inherent positive thing. Whether it actually adds to the experience has to do with execution as well as preference and taste.
So if we can all stop treating open worlds as an inherent positive, that'd be great.
5:27
that skull was in fact used but hidden from sight unless you use the exploration glitch.
it's in scykoh's glitchfest of a link to the past
***** Worth mentioning is that the different sound when striking a wall was used in the Fire Temple in Ocarina of Time. That wall didnt have any visible cracks afaik, but had different sound (though also given away by the map to the observant players)
Nice job on this Beta64! (despite the fact I've known most of this stuff since I've done my research and I really love this game!)
Btw, what do you plan on covering in the future?
there some pictures of beta in zelda alltp manual
like the lamp
The Chris Houlihan room can be accessed without a glitch. You need to get from the Sanctuary to the secret hole entrance from the beginning of the game on the side of the castle grounds in a set amount of time.
I remember as a kid, seeing the friggin SNES box with an illustration of beta Zelda ALTTP where the magic meter that looked like a jar, I always thougt I was missing a magic upgrade (past the 1/2).
Silicon Knights did not create Metal Gear. Konami allowed them to develop a remake of MGS1.
The first memories of my existence were this game. By far my favorite video game of all time hands down.
The rock in the beta screenshot was removed because it was in the way of an entrance. If Link swam up from the screen below, which showed a clear path, he'd likely get stuck in the rock on the next screen.
In the description, breakable walls have been in the Zelda series, since the original.
I’ll give it to ALTTP for adding elements, themes, and locations (ie: Kakariko Village, etc).
But the 2 most groundbreaking games in the series were the original, and OoT.
Actually, Alttp and ALBW are named Triforce of the gods 1 and 2 in JP ver, so the first fake catridge might actually be a placeholder for the unreleased Zelda 3
Quite interesting how if the beta stood, Link would have 16 hearts instead of the 20. Idk why but that’s always stood out for me
to be fair, the NTSC cart was likely for translation purposes and NoA may have assumed the plot was the same, so until they had a decent build of the SNES version to work on, they easily could have continued their work on the soon outdated NES development version.
ALTTP actually got three direct sequels soon after it came out, the oracles games and linnk's awakening have the same link as the protagonist, despite having little to do with ALTTP.
This game aged so well
I know Im 8 years late, but 4MB and 4Mb are two totally different things. "B" is used for Byte and "b" is used for bit
I think ***** is underrated and deserves a lot more subs.
1:10 - The game also uses an 8Mb cartridge instead of the usual 4Mb cartridge used in earlier SNES titles
Subtitles: The game also uses an 8MbB cartridge instead of the usual 4MB cartridge used in earlier SNES titles
Nice job man! Great channel!
13 years old stills plays such a great game
A Link Between Worlds is indeed _A_ sequel, not _the_ sequel, by the way.
Link's Awakening was the first sequel.
But of course, A Link Between Worlds was a sequel more than in just one way or two.
How to do italics again?
@@theHatted Put 2 _ around the word.
Like _ this_ but without the space before the t
I think those unused men in coats and hats are the guards in the town after the mind control wore off, but Nintendo took them out because they didn't want to associate Link with killing humans.
I named my Bowser amiibo "Killa7" after some sort of Melee abridged show I watched as a kid. Now I know the origin to that name. Ayyy thanks Beta64.
+Sonix the NMH No, Killer7, It's a game on the gamecube.. weird one.. I can't properly explain what it is.. just google "Killer7"
A 1/4 magic upgrade is also in the game, and was removed at the last minute. The randomizer uses it for its Easy difficulty.
Loved the video. There was also Beta shots of Link using the Book of Madura to read various other writings around the world - like on the railings of the Eastern Palace.
The whole wall thing and sound would make since of why we can tap on the walls and doors with our sword.
This game never ages. You can play it anytime and it's still fun.
Hey wait a minute, bombable walls DO make a slightly different siund if you hit them with your sword.
Reason for removing objects close to the end of the frames is because Link need 2 tiles each frame-transition. So when he enters a new frame he wont get stuck in the object too far out.
Btw, you sound just like the kid in Under the Dome who lost his sister.
Ah, this was back before Beta64 acknowledged that he got basically every bit of his info from TCRF.
There is one little error with this beta facts for the game. But there was actually one destroyable wall in the game that was left unmarked. That was was the small square building on the lower left corner surrounded by bushes in the town in the light world.
Also wanted to add this. But, I remember seeing those screenshots with more enemies on the screen. Always made me wonder if there was a more difficult mode in the game. Something to make it more of a challenge perhaps. But I guess not...
At least not without restricting yourself on skipping items that make the game harder at least.
Zelda 3 was actually originally going to be an RPG and was pretty much finished, but was changed to be more similar to the first Legend of Zelda for some reason.
I wanna say they also were originally gonna put in a couple other playable characters that joined Link in the game too
Holy hell! I've been using bombs all these years to blow up cracked walls and I could have just used the dash boots?!? How did I not know this?
1:10 Because as we all know, it's the money that types keyboards, not fingers.
The unused enemy at 7:10 looks like the guy who runs away in the village.
I remember a cricuit city in fresno many years ago. It was the first time i saw a SNES. It had a link to the past playing on it. I was mabey 7 but I remember I was completely blown a way. No words could describe how aswsome it looked and how i felt.
Wow - such a fantastic episode! I had no idea about most of these facts. Just played through it for the first time in 'years' for one of the previous CartridgeClub games - and had a blast. Want to back an play it again now :) Overall, great episode! Thanks for sharing!
I've been playing this game for over 20 years and I never know that you could just run into walls to break them. That's crazy
The sound walls were still used, it wasn't the primary bomb-able wall though
The Peice of Meat still is used as a Healing item sometimes, it's not a 100 precent chance but I've seen it at least 4 times when I played this game
6:55 - to me the character shown here very closely resembles the Wizzrobes from the dungeons; his eyes match them, his hat, even his animations are very much the same - just his feet and clothes were changed to be more robe-like and his shoes are covered by a longer robe
Speaking of A Link Between Worlds, I went through the whole game, without picking up any chainmail, and without upgrading the Master Sword even one bit.
Awesome channel man, great videos! So much information about games I love that I would have never known otherwise.
Just to make one thing clear, Silicon Knights didn't make Metal Gear Solid. They made the GameCube remake of one of them, though. Great episode, by the way.
Haha, I caught onto that too.