Making the exhaust for my 650hp aircooled Porsche 911 964 Turbo
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ม.ค. 2025
- In this episode, I make the new turbo back exhaust for my Porsche 964 Turbo with new Borg Warner EFR8374 & try my best to compliment the existing (and amazing) Promodet fabrication on the car.
►Collecting my 964 in Japan video here: • Japan Road Trip Collec...
►Part one of the handling issues video here: • Widebody RWB Porsche 9...
►Part two of the handling issues video here: • Widebody RWB Porsche 9...
►The rundown video of what I've done to the car since collecting it in Japan • RWB Porsche 911 964 Tu...
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This is a serious air cooled Porsche, the daily content brings me back every time. Haven’t missed an episode in ages
👍Cheers
Nothing but respect to Phil for being so hands on with his projects.
Same here. Phil is really one of my inspirations. He's been able to start a whole company, get into pro level drifting and have a bunch of cool cars while also doing alot of wrenching himself.
Thanks guys! 👍
As much as Phil despised it, I'm really happy these "small projects" on the RWB became a little mini series. Lots of great info regarding the alignment and setup of a fairly strange footprint (275, 3XX on a short wheelbase), and the turbo upgrade was the cherry on top.
I love that you show the tough realities of working on your project cars, from the alignment machines taking a shit to needing to "massage" the metalwork under the Porsche for the larger turbo.
Can't wait to see the new intercooler setup, this beast just keeps getting meaner
Thanks man 👍
At 21:14 I'm pretty sure I saw a couple of washers fall off of something and roll across the floor. Might wanna check they weren't on anything important.
Liking the music at the end as well 👌
You did, good eyes!
Any idea what they were from? Idk much about Porsches but with most cars things falling off isn't a good thing 😂
From all the way over here in the states I have to say I look forward to your videos more than any other. You guys are all hilarious and talented. Your videos always feel like just hanging out with some buddies in the garage tinkering on cars. Thanks for all the effort that goes into making these happen!
Thanks very much man 👍It's much appreciated.
The intro part is amazing to watch of your RWB 964.
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Driftworks uploads > uni essays, all day everyday.
this hit way too close to home
@@NailBombEnjoyer Reaaaally need to start on them soon haha.
Get to work! Or I won't make any more videos! 🤓
TheBish mine are due in like 2 weeks and i haven’t started, corona got me procrastinating in ways i never thought possible
@@driftworks Ok Phil, sorry fella 😭
Hi! At 21:14 some washer and another small part fall off what looks like the underside of the engine, maybe you've already noticed :) Keep up the good work!
👍Not fair! You guys are all watching on way bigger screens than I edit on 😄
@@driftworks Haha 😄
I had the same problem with the v-bands warping, I turned some aluminium bar to make heat sinks, making them a tight fit, worked for me. Usual stuff like purging, short runs of weld and using the pulse setting will help as well when possible
Cheers. A couple of people have suggested the alloy bung. I'll give it a go next time!
Great job as ever, a decent silencer makes all the difference. the work your putting in is easily on par with Promodet, don't sell yourself short :)
Thank you sir 👍
One of those videos you just go and “like” at the start Phil, cos’ I know it’s just going to be epic!!
Thanks man 😎
Sounds and looks amazing, I love how meticulous you are with your cars. Craig is the MVP round there, nice to have someone that knowledgeable nearby to get help from.
Thanks Lee! 👍
Also Phil, no need to apologize for the camera work, I think we're all just psyched to see a new video on the 964!
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Well chuffed this turned out as planned and yes it is definitely quieter.
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Can't believe it worked on first attempt! Well done Phil, nice job!
Haha, there were a few adjustments as I went along 😄
Can't wait to see it go with the new power
Good practise Phil for when you turbo viten
Haha, nope 🤓
As soon as you held that v-band up to the cat i was like 'Craig... could you just?'
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I just discovered your channel this morning and watched part one and two... now you uploaded part three... what a nice present 😊✌🏻
Welcome aboard! 😎
Driftworks thanks man, I’ll be watching all your videos because I really like the content. Good work man 💪🏻👍🏻
Amazing job. I need to be more patient when working on my cars.
Thanks! Yeah it's nice to have the time to be patient. There's no need to rush at the moment with no where to go.
Thanks for the amazing content as always, keep it up
Cheers 👍
Absolutely Awesome twin turbo project
Cheers. There's only one though 🤓
Awesome project. Aa allways, you guys really know how to fab, the dynamics, which part to use. Lovely to see someone at work doing it right!
Thanks very much 👍
Nice work Phil, a joy to watch
Thanks man!
Sound great! Will you use a turbo blanket and/or use some sort of heat reflective material since the new muffler sits up so close to the bumper cover?
I'll be using some heat shielding. Blankets aren't great on turbos this low as they hold in a lot of water.
Driftworks makes sense... cheers
A beautiful labour of love. So jelly ha. You're a very skilled dude. Well done.
Thank you 🤘
hi phil clamp both v band pieces together when welding a flange joint and use 1mm stainless filler wire your not putting as much heat into the weld with thinner wire i like to tack flange in 6 points wait a half a minute and stagger the next 6 tacks etc it may take a bit longer but your not putting as much heat into it and having the flange clamped together disapates a pit of the heat also.Keeping the flange clamped together would also lessen the worpage some times it pays to have an extra v band around to use on the flange if your wanting to weld both pipes at the same time .On a lighter note maybe you could get jay to dj live in the background while you are working i hear his skillset is awsome lol nice job on the exhaust
Hi Glenn, that's what I do in this video. The Vband is clamped tight & I use spare male or female bands when finishing. All clamped together hard. A couple of things that have been suggested a few times below is machining an alloy bung & clamping to a large alloy block, which I may try next time.
Amateur you says.... Wow hats off to you and Craig great work
👍Cheers.
Your car collection makes me moist!
Oh dear.
Love this car and channel.The in car drive at the beginning of the vid looks mega, the car looks really quick already!!!
Cheers, yeah considering how broken the turbo was it was still pretty quick.
She’s sounding really really nice 👍
Cheers 👍
Looking good! Cool to see you show the process involved in making a custom exhaust setup. Not easy work, but l'm sure well worth it.
Thanks 👍
I got my Phil of exhausting work today, thank goodness TH-cam makes a path of least resistance to see it.
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I built my first 3 inch stainless exhaust yesterday. Fit nice when it was tacked together, like a 30mm gap to the floor. After I welded it it was pressed against the floor. Today Phil uploads a video: "Watch out not to warp your stainless stuff", life is tough :(
Damn, sorry man!
You can bend it back by heating it in the correct places. It's very common to do it this way.
That’s a monster turbo Phil. Very interesting that the BorgWarner turbos are happy to be air cooled instead of the usual water cooled.
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Dude this music you got 16:55 gives it a soothing “exhaust fabricating PORN” feel. Like ☘️ McGregor would say “FuKen Luv IT”
Haha 😄
Wooo hoooo getting there phil
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Cant wait to see the road test 😎
Thanks 👍
Awesome ride, awesome workmanship, hats off to you !
Thanks man 👍
Love the engineering! You ought to make a TV show for discovery. So many US shows but yours could be the UK version!
It would be 100% awkward & embarrassing like all UK car related shows with the exception of TOp Gear / Grand Tour who embrace the awkwardness quite well.
@@driftworks tbh your TH-cam vids are quite awkward so you'll fit right in!! Let me know if you need someone to help you manage the tv show, happy to do so! 😁
Enjoying this project a lot
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Nice job Phil! I think you used quality bits and the fabwork is way more than amateur. Can't wait to see the intake. Way to work within the confines of what the 965 gives you for a a big turbo and exhaust! It sounds proper!
Thanks man! 👍
Love these videos. Thanks for keeping us all entertained!!
Thanks for watching! 👍
Absolutely stunning car - love it, really enjoying the videos thanks.
👍Thanks!
Clicked like before I even watched the video because I know I will like it 😄
Cheers 👍
Yep, another very enjoyable and interesting vid, keep the content coming please.👍👍🇬🇧
Thanks! Will do
Really nice job on the exhaust :) Will the mapping be changed, is a rolling road power run planned down the line?
Cheers. Yeah it'll need a fair bit changing. Possibly a new ECU.
Sick Porsche Amazing work. Update on the murcielago please 😲👍
👍. I'm waiting for some good news on the Murcielago myself.
Enjoying the lo-fi in this episode
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Its Jincheng Zhang - Worthless (Instrumental Version)
to avoid distorting the the bands its good to machine aluminium bung that fits on the inside, it helps to keep it round and helps to dissipate the heat, you can always put a nipple on it so you can back purge too
You said bung and nipple in the same post 👍
Nice 👍
Could you put a steel bung inside the vband to keep it in shape and help distribution of heat?
A couple of people have suggested an alloy bung 👍
Keep up the good work the content is much appreciated.
Thanks, will do!
Sweet. I started back purging stainless and found once you do it you don’t go back 🤣 I kept being told to try it and was putting it off. But well worth it in the end!
Yeah, I think learn't to TIG myself and didn't have to annoy Craig every time I'd definitely back purge.
Driftworks 👍🏻 he seems like a great guy.
full 100 awesome works
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Great work, Phil. 👏
Many thanks!
Not sure if I agree with your statement about that not being Promodet quality Phil, looks pretty much perfect to me! I'm loving this series, the car will be much more enjoyable now that you'll be able to drive it without ear plugs in! I had a similar problem with my ST205 GT-Four for the first year that I owned it, the drone from its 3" turboback system at motorway speeds was unbearable, and part of the problem included it blowing out at two out of 4 flanges. I've since changed it to have a 2.5" downpipe and welded new stainless flanges onto the whole thing. It's much more bearable now.
Thanks Matt! 👍
Loving the content DW 🔥🔥
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" And yes- Craig's going to yell at me". LMAO
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Posting in work time! what have we told you!, and not even at lunchtime, this is madness lol. Some distraction fro later.
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Aluminum preheat and if possible seal and purge the air with a shielding gas depending on what your welding, the wire and metal type
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Nice job there Phil 👍
Cheers 👍
Loving your work!
Top job!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thank you 🙌
Loving all these videos ❤
Glad you like them! 👍
Another great video
Thanks 👍
Sweet job....love fabrication work..
Thanks 👍
How does the left hand side exhaust get fed? The turbo (single?) feeds direct to the new muffler and right hand side exhaust....
LH is for the waste gate
It's the external wastegate exhaust. I posted a picture on my instagram that shows it more clearly yesterday - IG - PhilMorrisonDW
"Turbo Wiggle, and Pigeon shit welds" covering all the technical terminology 😄
You forgot Woozer.
Nice work Phil. 👍
👍Cheers
Did a good job.
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Forgot to edit in the "can you just Craig" 😂😂
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What are both of the background song you used called?
I learn something every time :)
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nice welding glove
Thanks. It's been a while since anyone complained about Craigs choice of gloves 😄
Decided to just put a like on everytime you upload to show my appreciation at the most boring times in history.
Thanks man! 😎
Ooh I do love a bastard file, really enjoying this.
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Hey Phil, what pump are you using to pull the oil from the turbo catch can ?
Hi, it's the standard 964 turbo oil scavenge pump.
Driftworks thanks
Make sure that super-sized turbocharger doesn't get too hot and melt your Porsche reflector strip.... ahem.. had similar trouble a few years ago
That doesn't sound fun. I have some heat insulation going in 👍
21:10 where did that washer come from 🤣
space! 😄
Using the MIG with mild steel doesn't matter when you ruin the stainless without back purging it anyways. EDIT back purging while welding also helps with cooling, so there's less warpage.
👍Thanks man!
Amazing car very jealous
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On a side note, I think DW has the nicest quality and priced RLCA for an S-chassis.
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Do you purge when tig welding? Would probably help with warpage. Good stuff guys!
Just heard you say you don’t do that. Try it
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Do you still plan on changing the waste gate setup?
I don't think so for now. I'm going to see how it runs.
I think the V band was out because you didn't clock it on the lathe and you basically took too much off one side as it wasn't running true (sorry if you did and just didn't show it, just trying to help)
It wasn't that side of the Vband I was working on on the lathe.
Super nice job. I know how it feels to warp a Vband lol. Clamp and do lots of small welds to keep it cool as possible is all I can suggest. Have you considered exhaust cutouts ?
Cheers. I have, but there's not any more room for an additional silencer.
Why do you need a catch can on the oil return? Assume its to do with the drain being below the sump, but still cant figure out why.
Because the drain can't sit full of oil. This allows it to pool in the catch tank and get pulled out by an oil vacuum pump. 👍
I'm confused, what feeds the left exhaust tip ?
John Davey looks like it comes off lower down the collector, waste-gate maby
I think it's an external wastegate
External waste gate
@@kieranshipley281 that makes sense alright... i cant think what other function it could have.
As above. Wastegate 👍
@11.09 I assume the silencer is bolted to the gearbox rather than the chassis?
It's bolted to the engine. The gearbox is in front of the engine on a 911 👍
The turbo almost instantly stopped, shouldn’t it keep spinning for a while?
I think it's normal on the EFR. Unlike older turbos the wheels are so light there is no where near the inertia.
@@driftworks Hope so :) You figure out some new tires for it yet?
Tolerances are prob tight when cold, likey different when normal operating temp.
Nice job
Thanks
Craig's gotta be on the books as the odds and sods bloke 😂😂
Official title 'can you juster'
Not bad for a amateur 😉. I couldn't have done a better job myself.I like the idea of routing the cold air intake into the wheel well.I did the same but brought it back into the engine compartment stopping behind the Intercooler.I was worried about water and rd grime as the 930 does not have any type of splash guard like yours has.Love yhe turbo choice too.
Thanks Kevin! I'm definitely going to still be keeping an eye on it in the wheel arch, but it it should work out nicely!
Looking great, How much boost
Whatever it takes to get to 650hp. Probably only about 1.4bar.
But how does it work? Are all 6 cilinders connected to that turbo and is the other tip a "fake"? Still looks like the other tip is connected to something.
The other tip is the waste-gate dump pipe :)
As above, it's the external wastegate exhaust.
@@driftworks aah, got it
With how carried away Phil gets I'm surprised it hasn't got a full on bosozoku exhaust hanging out the back 🤣
Haha, not so much my taste.
Epic stuff Phil. Boy is that car going to shift when it's finished. Who is going to set it up for you once you've done all the work? Will it be rolling roaded and mapped? Can that all be done with a Porsche of that age? Forgive my ignorance, i know little about Porsche tunng.
Yeah it'll have to be mapped. I'm not sure if I'm changing ECU yet. It's on Motec M4 at the moment, but I might change to drive by wire which it can't handle.
you may have mentioned it before in this series but what v bands are you using where can they be purchased? thanks
They are Alunox Vbands. They are quite pricey, but are much more compact than alot that I've seen.
Maybe consider heat shielding that manifold, surely a big worry from a heat soak perspective?
It's not really an issue on a 911. The bumper will need some protection though.
12:15 what dropped off?
lovely sound !
Thanks. I'm not sure. What did you see?
@@driftworks I think he meant 21:15 .. see the 2 washers make their escape from the bottom of the car
Is the left side exhaust tip a dummy tip. Great series of video
Believe it's Phil's screamer. So only used when the gate opens.
Wastegate exhaust. Cheers 👍
Phil-Mo-Det
😂I like it.
Sounds pretty awesome. But also loud but it is a short exhaust. And that amateur comment... lol you no amateur mate. I think you're really quite sharp
Haha, I'm just an amateur that's been doing it a while 🤓