@@Jasper_4444 Not so fast. I found myself unknowingly standing on a biike path when I was out the front of a pub in Amsterdam. As a pack approached, they rang their bells at me, so I just stood still, allowing them plenty of room to go around me, which most did. One decided to line me up and ride straight into me, then abuse me for being there. Could have easily gone around., but she actually changed direction so she could hit me. Sounds entitled to me.
Cycling Mikey guide to "road safety" content creation: - Find a subject driver - Put yourself in the worst possible position - Wait for the inevitable issues - Yell at the driver, make a video, and report them - Act like anyone criticising your own actions are haters and anti-cyclist, their views mean nothing if it doesn't fit your narrative. - rinse and repeat: remember never to learn from any of these situations
There will come a day when he will be uploading videos from a hospital bed, and even then it won't go through his mind about whether he was in the wrong
Well he won't be getting my clicks. As a cyclist myself I find his arrogance utterly bewildering. He sets a very very bad example to newer cyclists who may well assume that they too are justified putting themselves at risk when it is not necessary.
I commented on one of Mikey's clips recently. He was filtering down the middle of the road looking in car windows. He slams on the brakes with no warning to film a phone user. He had several cyclists and moped riders behind him. They all had to stop and wait for oncoming traffic to pass before they could go around him. I commented that he should be careful suddenly stopping like that. He replied "its their fault if they hit me, they shouldn't be traveling so close" He had no regard for traffic flow and his militant vigilantly mentality trumps all other road users apparently.
Ah, so using the same logic I can stop on a motorway. After all if a collision occurs, "it's their fault if they hit me because they should be following at a safe distance and must pay attention". The lack of accountability from some people is astounding, the ol' "I'm perfect and everyone else is the problem" mentality
I made similar comments on his video and he managed to shadow ban me permanently. He cannot take criticism. Him and Jeremy Vine are like two peas in a pod.
@@boostar155 Rule 271: You MUST NOT stop on any carriageway, emergency area, hard shoulder, slip road, central reservation or verge except in an emergency, or when told to do so by the police, traffic officers, an emergency sign or by red flashing light signals. Do not stop on any part of a motorway to make or receive mobile telephone calls, except in an emergency. Rule 253: Prohibited vehicles. Motorways MUST NOT be used by pedestrians, holders of provisional motorcycle licences, riders of motorcycles under 50 cc (4 kW), cyclists, horse riders, certain slow-moving vehicles
The taxi did no wrong here. Mikey is being a dick on this occasion. And as for that cyclist pushing through pedestrians, that's a total no no. I see that a lot when I'm cycling and it really pisses me off.
Did you see the 2 who ran the red light at the end? That was a junction, and they both ran the red. Although you don't actually see the guy with the beard run the red, it's clear that he did when you see how far ahead he is.
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When I ride, I purposely try NOT to get in anybody's way, and not occupy the same space as cars. I often also wait behind Taxi's (and buses) at lights (instead of trying to scoot along the inside where there's no space, just to get ahead and make them have to overtake again when the lights change, like many other cyclists do). But then again, I'm just trying to get to work in one piece, not generate content and clicks for a youtube channel...
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I like how, even in Mikey's video, half the comments are blaming him or saying things he could have done differently, but he is just repeating the same "I honestly expected him to turn left" argument. Maybe Mikey should learn on his hazard perception, and learn to read other vehicle's body language better?
My comments keep disappearing from his channel if I suggest he could have done better. My main objection is antagonising drivers who are already agitated. I support his phone campaign, but some of the verbal is unnecessary.
@@PedroConejo1939 i had interaction with him on twitter. He abused me, then blocked me, then several other British cycling accounts came to abuse me for a while only to block me one after another as I continued to politely explain why cyclist in a video we all commented was wrong.
he has a narrative, which anyone (who if not a follower at the church of cyclingmikey) would find plainly absurd. Hug a lunatic, protect them from the real world, make them better and then release them
Anticipation and forward planning has a lot to answer for. This problem could have been avoided. As a former bus driver, I use to encounter cyclists like this. Best thing is to just ignore them.
Audi TT driver and occasional cyclist here. I decline the association with Mikey. Whether driving or cycling I do my utmost to do so safely, respect other road users, and belie the contempt in which I am well aware that Audi drivers and cyclists are held,
I have no issues 99.99% of the time when I cycle. Mikey though like Jeremy Vine seem to have near death experiences every trip. Wonder who the better cyclist is. They really need to calm down and just enjoy the ride, which will make them live longer due to lower blood pressure and stress. Earlier today had to slow down from 30mph down to 15mph due to a pedestrain crossing without looking, wasn't bothered, mikey though would have blown a gasket.
That's because these sort of riders anticipate problems (I'd argue their anticipation for what's going to happen is way above average) but instead of mitigating them they actively try and exacerbate the problems further combine this with a real belief that every action that everyone else takes is to spite them personally and you have the recipe for your average camera cyclist/ driver. Let's also not forget that you're not incentivised to cause issues through money and/or exposure which I imagine does drive their behaviour somewhat.
I think, we must go more deep and understand their childhood. to understand why they behave this way. I am talking seriously and not trying to put them down or similar. but really. they do this because is something they learnt , it is like a mechanism to socialize with others. or the way to feel good them self. something like that.
@@ianbarton1990 This is precisely why GDPR rules should cover mobile cameras as well as stationary. I can't upload the footage from my doorbell cam, that would be a breach of GDPR. Neither should people like Mike.
Remember Vine reporting the Waitrose truck driver for a 'close pass' and demanding that he be sacked...when the real offender was a police 'cycling expert' who couldn't ride in a straight line? IIRC Waitrose reviewed the video from the truck and publicly responded that the truck driver had conducted himself perfectly. Many trucks operating in London have all round video recording running constantly...which is one of the reasons why the Met police now hardly ever prosecute truck drivers for 'killing' cyclists.
A few weeks ago I was in a shop and as I went to exit, someone barged in front and forced myself and someone else to stop. They then proceeded to weave around people and throw the arms in the air when a van was blocking the road they wanted to cross I thought to myself “If Audi made shoes he would be wearing them” As I walked to my car I saw an Audi screeching round the corner of the car park on the opposite side of the road. The driver…. ….was the same person from before 😁
@@smilerbob That was quite priceless. You couldn't make that up! And I loved the bit about "If Audi made shoes". I've seen pedestrians rush past other folks just to get to the curbside and have to wait for the pedestrian "Walk" signal. Just like some drivers rush to a red light.
@@smilerbob Greetings from Canterbury with a similar weather pattern. Driving home from North Greenwich yesterday (after attending Everything Electric London at Excel), it was very windy and I often kept my speed down to around 55 mph. Even slower when crossing the Medway bridge on the M2 where I could feel the wind even more. Was surprised to see others still driving at 70 mph+ in such strong winds. The O2 cable car was actually cancelled for the return journey from Excel to O2 in the afternoon, which I had suspected in advance would happen and hence bought only one way tickets for the two of us. Caught the DLR & underground for the journey back to O2. Tomorrow it's off to London Olympia for the Ideal Home Show. As always, I'll endeavour to get some "quality" driving in for the return journey. I avoid driving through London itself and instead go clockwise around the M25 and then east along the M4. Park in Hammersmith and then walk around 20 mins along Kensington High Street to Olympia. Parking already booked in advance as it's much more cost effective..and considerably less than parking at Olympia itself, as well as far less crowded. The journey back to Canterbury is simply the exact same route in the reverse direction, again avoiding the shorter route through London.
@@ibs5080 I used to see that travelling on the roads all the time. Many occasions I have had the windows open to reduce the effect of the cross wind and keeping my speed to that of lorries to further reduce any lane drifting yet others will happily come along in lane 2 lane 3 (they can't keep it in either) doing 80+ Safe travels tomorrow and hope the show is good for you. It has been a while since I have been alongside the yellow frame of the O2, maybe one day this year I will see it again. Or it might be the towers of the Dartford bridge or the sight of planes heading over the M25...depending on which route is the quickest
when I passed my driving test my dad advised, no sorry, warned me that everyone else on the road was trying to kill me. why do cyclists seem so f'kin oblivious to the obvious risks? oh I get it "it was my right of way" cretinous sheep following the likes of JV, CM et al and believing they are invincible
"Now you're holding me up," 🤣Mikey wouldn't worry about holding up the Taxi though...Hypocrite. I've seen a few of his videos. He's another one of those who possibly started out with good intentions but now is just DESPERATE for content to keep his channel going, so posts anything. He's also incredibly thin skinned. I made a comment on one of his videos and he got REALLY narky.
You're right, I've commented a couple of times on his site...he gets a right 'Strop on' if you have the temerity to criticise him...He's very anti car, in fact he's anti everything except bicycles
@brianperry I disagree, given how he rides around other cyclists, I've concluded he has just as little respect for cyclists as any other road user. "You're anti-cyclist!" Is just the shield he uses from criticism and a soapbox he markets his content on, not an indication he actually cares about the welfare of other cyclists.
yup zero backbone and can't take any form of criticism, clearly has an inferiority complex and this is his outlet and hides behind his camera with a passive aggressive attitude
I'll tell you😊 why I have a dash cam. It is to improve my own driving as much as anyone elses. From time to time we ALL get in to "situations", sometimes we get beeped at, sometimes one thinks "that was close", other times one thinks "where the heck did they come from"..... When there is a problem the cards come out, they go in the PC and I review the footage. Did I do something wrong, or is it the other person who was wrong (or making a mountain out of a mole hill)? If it is the former I try and learn from it, if it is the latter also I try and learn from it so as not to potentially trigger people again in the same way. It IS very tempting to try and teach people how to drive, but it is unlikely to work and one risks making a situation out of nothing and having an incident blow up in ones face.
Indeed and I am the same, always looking to improve and not provoke others. Only by reviewing the footage is it possible to take an objective view of a situation and see things that were potentially missed previously. I used to try to teach others on the road and all that did was increase stress levels, distract my concentration and actually made my journeys longer. So glad those London days are behind me
Excellent, super. that is the mindset. I do the same. my rear camera is the one which give me more learning stuff. Sometimes I over react. and checking the video, mmm I noticed I was wrong etc. or I can did something to allow me be safe and others.
One of the best comments on these types of video I've ever read. I drive a lot and yes I make mistakes from time to time and see mistakes from others too. Thing is like you say you can learn from both... a pity not everyone sees it that way.
Use one myself to improve my driving. Even though an advanced driver, nobody is perfect, always something to learn. Reviewing footage is also a good way to see if there is anything I missed.
*Comment for the opening clip:* I think it would help a lot if the signs you can see at 0:30 and 0:38 on the left had a simple caption added below "USE BOTH LANES". If that was added as standard, I think problems of lane policing would slowly disappear. *Comment for the CyclingMikey Clip:* I remember thinking when the video was originally released that Mikey didn't do himself any favours. He must've known from past experience that the road narrowed into a single lane. I seriously doubt that was his first time down that stretch of road. He therefore could easily have just waited back a little and simply let the taxi return back to the lane he was in. If I recall correctly, I think quite a lot of commenters did call him out on that one.
I agree about the signage being inadequate, and even when there is clear filter in turn signage the actual lane closure signs tend to contradict it by showing one lane or the other closed rather than an overall narrowing from both sides equally. This creates the I'm in the correct lane, you are queue jumping mentality. One for changes to traffic management practices I think.
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One thing mikey will have done is angered him, which will result in his driving deterioating. Mikey is a bully backed by the police and CPR, everyone he reports getting 6 points.
The thing I've found with a lot of these 'bike vs car' incidents is that the drivers are the ultimate idiots, but sometimes the cyclist makes it slightly worse. The point I'm making is that cyclists get so much hate when in reality the drivers do a lot worse. I'm not in any way defending cyclingmikey - he's a bit of an idiot on his bike. I'm just saying that people overlook the 95% of cyclists who obey the law and are sensible, instead pointing the finger at the 5% who do something wrong. But this attitude won't change - it doesn't matter how many studies show that bikes break the law much less than cars, people will still blame the bikes for the issues cars cause. People will always hate on bikes just because they don't understand basic concepts like level of risk to bikes and induced demand. My main point is that bikes shouldn't have to share the road with cars. They also shouldn't be subject to all the same rules as cars, instead they should be protected by both laws and good bike infrastructure. UK law basically treats bikes and cars as the same thing, but they're not. *We need better bike infrastructure, or at least lower speed limits (20mph = 30km/h)*
@@dylancode But it's not a few bad apples. Go stand at a pedestrian crossing for an hour and count how many stop and how many don't. I think you'll find the phrase "a few good apples" is far more accurate.
@@simonharris4873 But the point is that drivers break the law a lot more than cyclists do. I agree that bikes absolutely should stop at pedestrian crossings, but I've never seen someone not stop. I will admit something - a few weeks ago I was so focused on someone about to overtake me that I didn't even notice a pedestrian crossing light... I don't think it was red, but I'll admit that I was completely unaware at that point - and I'm sure I'd have made it onto Ashley's cycling fails! Anyway, the point is that drivers do a lot worse than cyclists. And cycling does a lot less damage than driving. I don't know where you live, but here in the UK cyclists get SO much hate when our drivers here are pretty terrible too. But as I said in my initial comment, some people will never accept that cycling is a good mode of transport, no matter how good it is. I also think that bikes should be able to (slowly) go through red / red+amber lights if they're sure it's safe, as it allows them to get a headstart from cars. This helps keep the bikes safer and also helps drivers as well as they don't have to wait behind bikes. But ideally yes, everyone would stop at pedestrian lights. But in the UK I see SO MANY cars running the red at the pedestrian crossing near my house. Every single day. And I've never seen a single bike go through (except one who I let go). Think what you think, but cars break the laws a lot more than bikes. That's been proved so many times.
A very long time ago , l heard a police motorcycle patrol rider say...''It doesn't matter whose fault it was if you're dead''... Cycling Mikey would do well to heed such advice...
@@Tillyard86 Even then if you as a driver (or cyclist) are involved in injuring or even worse killing someone else, it can have a massive toll on you, even if it's not your fault.
@@sebastien79a right on! It's such a selfish attitude, it also implies they don't have any friends or family that might care about the fact they are dead.
It works for helmet/bike cams exactly as it does for dashcams: our conduct is just as exposed as anybody else's. We either put our hands up to our mistakes, or we try to push our luck.
At last someone calling out @CyclingMikey. The videos I have seen of him show aggressive confrontation right from the off, and this is to bait the drivers into a response which makes good video. This is really not helping relations between cyclists and car drivers and probably has a detrimental effect on safety overall. I feel sorry that some people have such sad existences that they feel the need to become a campaigner for something or other and try and impose 'the rules' one everyone else. How much nicer would the world be if everyone just got on with their OWN lives and let others do the same. Leave trying to enforce your views and opinions to the Police.
Also in Mikey`s video, the bike in the left lane with the blue helmeted rider in front of the taxi was allowed to go straight ahead and merge into the single lane by the black Merc. Mikey definitely needs to adopt a bit of merging sequencing etiquette. The taxi was in front of Mikey approaching the single lane but Mikey decided to recklessly overtake at that point. If Mikey thought the taxi was going to do a left why did he say "And why would you do that, you just get in my way" as the move would have been perfectly acceptable if the taxi was turning left.
Yeah, doesn't really show Mikey in the best light. Definitely could do better. I'm sort of torn on the subject of Mikey. I agree with his mission to stop people using mobiles in cars, but i don't like the confrontational way he does it. He could just report them rather than tapping on windows and deliberately baiting them. I can't help feeling that one day someone is going to climb out of a car and do him a serious injury, and he will have brought it on himself.
Yeah, I've always held this view. He does what he does because his own father was killed by a motorist who was on their phone, and I genuinely think the hundreds of convictions for phone use in vehicles based on his video evidence has done a great public service. But it's very clear that he antagonises people for content. And quite frankly, the only thing worse than a rule-breaking, dangerous motorist is an angry, flustered rule-breaking motorist. In that moment, you're increasing risk for everyone by antagonising them. Just capture the evidence and move on, I say
I don't really see the big problem if your stationary tbh, personally non related generally aggressive bad driving that police use to deal with before vigilanties and cameras is what really needs dealing with.
@@BedfordshiremanI believe it was a drunk driver rather than a phone driver, but yes, I agree that his anti-phone-driving campaign is a true public service. I cringe sometimes at the contretemps he gets himself into though. Leave the distress for when the letter drops though their letterbox. The only thing that would really make his videos more rewarding is something he can rarely do: report full penalties applied. That's down to the police providing the info though.
Absolutely agree "content creator posing as a road safety activist" there's a few of those now. Making life difficult causing issues where there don't need to be any. Roads are full of people like this.
@JasperKloek that is interesting. I do not know if it is an offence or not to not use the bike lane when available in the UK. If it is, it is not something that is widely enforced as cyclists weave in and out of traffic all the time in London.
I see. Here in NL we don't weave so much. Cyclists pretty much always stay on the right hand side, even when turning left. (If they indicate left in a timely way, many motorists will just stop for them though they don't have to. Or, the cyclist will just wait for a gap.)
@@Jasper_4444 It's not compulsory to use cycle lanes in the UK. Some of them are poorly-designed thus causing cyclists to use the road instead. If I were cycling in London I'd use cycle lanes at every opportunity; it would reduce a lot of stress. My guess is that in the Netherlands most motorists are regular cyclists too; your cycle "culture" is light years ahead of Britain's. I'm fortunate enough to live in Norwich where the cycle lanes are well-planned and where motorists are by and large considerate.
Yes I spotted that, he is clearly looking for trouble by staying on the road. It shouldn't be an "option" to use the road if there is a designated lane. This guy is such a tosser.
The irony of Mikey saying "You Just get in my way" as he passes the entrance to the bike lane that would have helped him avoid all the traffic in the first place and is there to improve safety by creating separation
The fact CM reported the driver shows a complete lack of self awareness, despite having the luxury of re-watching the incident. I doubt very much the Taxi driver received an awareness course, the driving seemed to be of a good standard to me.
Thank you for making these. Attitude is everything, competitive and confrontational road users make things worse for everyone, whether they have two wheels or four. I commute to work in London on a bike five days a week and very rarely have any significant problems. Yet somehow riders like this have multiple incidents whenever they go out, because they are trying to make problems worse instead of avoid or fix them. A real embarrassment.
Spot on Ashley. I’m seeing a lot of comments on those types of videos that can see right through them. A lot of people are using the same type of language and phrases that you use. You’re clearly making a positive difference and getting through to people. I’ve always had a good attitude when driving in terms of believing that we’re all one team on the road but you have improved my skills so much. Little simple improvements make a huge difference. I thought I was a good driver when I passed my test. People told me I was very calm and a good driver but I didn’t have enough forward thinking techniques and was a little reactive. Over the years I’ve realised how little I knew as I’ve learnt so much since.
Your channel is excellent at educating road users. I was expecting car drivers to gain, but I think cyclists can learn as much. Mikey is confrontational and just out for content. Sadly this makes life more dangerous for other cyclists in general.
As a cyclist it’s disgraceful, why report the taxi driver, he did a great job. The attitude I have on my bike is what can I do so I’m not a hindrance to faster moving vehicles
I remember very well the recent opening clip at the roadworks merge in turn. It's interesting how some drivers will make a big deal out of something so routine and could have gone so much more smoothly without any aggro whatsoever. As Ashley said, "It is what it is". Oh well.
The cycling gloves are most definitely off! At least you have the upper hand, Ashley, since everything you have said against Mikey makes sense, in regards to potential risk, and safety. He hasn't a leg to stand, or cycle on. Good you had a clip of your own, which you already shown, as an example. I hope Mikey doesn't have the last word 😕
Thinking about it, he provides bad drivers with the perfect template for an excuse: "I was/wasn't expecting them to do XYZ". In this clip his excuse is "I was expecting the taxi driver to turn left". If you accept that excuse you also have to accept it the other way around, "I was expecting the cyclist to slow down/ turn left/ turn right/ have seen me/give way/ take your pick".If it applies one way it also applies the other.
Doesn't work like that in his head you see, assumptions and right to error is only reserved for him, everyone else must be on their absolute perfect behaviour or he reports them. Rather pathetic.
At around 3:55 the taxi was already in front of CM & with the left lane closure coming up a short distance away. So it would have made sense to let the taxi "merge in turn" first rather than try to close the space down on a bike. To be a space closer on a bike when you are up against a taxi and hence far more vulnerable makes very little sense anyway, regardless of who is right or wrong. Even more so when it was legitimately the taxi's turn to merge.
The taxi driver was lane hopping, the Merc and the other taxi stayed in their lane, why didn't the other tai driver? Not saying that CM couldn't have defused the situation but the taxi driver did not use his mirrors/over the shoulder check and was the one trying to MGIF hence the lane hopping.
Changing lane would have made sense if the taxi was turning left, but with the traffic backed up as it was the taxi driver was just trying to get a jump on the other road users.
Oh I've definitely had times where a lane closure means people need to change lanes, when im cycling. Just hold back and allow merge in turn? Looked like the taxi was slightly ahead so the cyclist could have eased off the pedals and it would have all worked out. Shame he didn't take the opportunity to be the one to fix things.
Exactly that is the correct to do or be faster than the taxi and avoid the blind spot and before the taxi need to merge to another lane. why is so hard share the road. Simple "the EGO" I am Mr. right etc.
I tend not to mind CM, he rightfully stops people making an arse of themselves at "Gandalf corner", but he does antagonise and drag out arguments a bit. As you say "make it a non event", no point in drama on the roads, it only serves to raise tempers (and probably blood pressure!). I get plenty of people cut me up around my way and change to my lane without being far enough in front of me and giving a safe amount of space when I'm in my car (not merges, just lane changes), but I'm like my dad in that respect - maybe a little shake of the head, maybe a swear under the breath, but no agg or remonstration at the driver. Keep them in front of you where you can make sure you see them, as you've also pointed out some times! CM is putting himself in harm's way.
Standing in the road (with back to oncoming vehicles) trying to direct traffic (without the authority to do so) isn't actually legal... and since CM already has sufficient evidence, what follows is simply to get "content" for his channel. The cars mounting the pavement to get past the obstruction; cyclists also ignoring the keep left, or cycling on pavement, he ignores and since the law changed recently (ignoring the keep left sign there being a council, not police, matter) there seems to be less drama now. While cycling on the wrong side of the road tapping on car windows and getting into arguments seems a bigger distraction than mobile phone use in stationary vehicles (6pts + £150 fine). Again tho' CM should not be engaging with drivers, it's simply to get "content" and so I do mind CM because it's not about road safety at all, it's money and notoriety he seeks. I view him more as a public nuisance. I do agree it's better to let things go (and that's not always easy), while everybody makes mistakes; some road layouts are frankly bizarre and with variable speed limits; (Home Office approved) 24/7 robot policing (with fines for giving it the "bird"); it looks like "Big Brother" will coin it in and CM footage won't be required, except perhaps as evidence used against him. Holding up traffic for 20+ minutes at Gandalf corner; that's entirely for CM's benefit and the more anger he can create the better for him. A camera there would put a stop to this.
Have you thought that maybe he only frequents Gandalf's Corner because it is a rich source of content? Pretty sure there are more dangerous areas he could investigate (like stopping distances when approaching the end of a pier).
And that is why so many people get in lane early as per the video. That was normal behaviour for down here….which is why almost nobody uses all the available lanes. The taxi clip is perfect for mr Vine 😂 Does having an electric assist bike increase risk, well…for those that ride like Mikey? I know someone who has one…it’s been “remapped” so it can get away quicker than standard…does upto 30mph with little peddling. He leaves work same time & direction as myself….im a tad nervous if he’s just ahead of me because his unpredictable nature + electric speed = increased risk to himself and me (or anyone else on the road or crossing it).
Me neither, sadly the highway code treat cyclist as pedestrian and they can do anything against they own safety and blame other. but if they treat them like drivers, the cyclist will be considered a careless driver. I agree with highway code put pedestrian as most vulnerable and later cyclist. what I did not agree is treat them do not need to know the rules.
I am sure that 10 or 15 years ago, there were yellow signs warning that the left lane was closed ahead. BUT the signs said (something like) 'Merge at head of queue. One for one' with the graphic of a zip closing. And I've never seen it since.
This should happen every time 2 lanes are merging into one. The vehicle with their nose in front has right of way. This is the perfect example of why that is. Mikey knew the taxi was there, because it was in front of him. The taxi didn't know Mikey was there, because he was behind it, in its blind spot. And if you try to stand your ground like that against a vehicle that most likely doesn't even know you're there, then you shouldn't be on the road at all.
Wasn’t it only a few months ago it was said “Once you make a mistake like that, that’s the sort of driver you want in front of you not behind” If the taxi driver made a “mistake” then why was Mikey not listening to his own words and trying to get in front if not a “I am in the right” type punishment pass?
The suicidally aggressive cycling is one thing - many, if not most road cyclists are like that - but the class-based slur is what really grinds my gears. Imagine unironically calling a working man an "oik" as he goes about his business, not as a pisstake of posh twerps but because you really are convinced you're better than him. What does that say about you?
That "oik" is a black cab driver; in order to get his taxi licence he will have had to learn and pass "the knowledge". That's not for the faint-hearted.
Never heard the term oik. Although, I don't often hang around snotty-nosed posh folk with annoying voices, so that's probably why. Having wealth is one thing but clearly it's not enough for some of them, they must try convince themselves they're better than people who work for a living.
Im not like that. I mainly use a bicycle these days but also a car driver and motorcyclist. I am very critical of other cyclists though as the standard of their riding is generally poor.
The "trick cyclers" bias is evident and obvious, when he was doing his "thang" at Gandalf corner, the bias was palpable, he wouldn't accept wrongdoing by cyclists could also injure and kill pedestrians, he just kept banging on about weights, dimensions , widths of cars, he'd chase down cars ,to admonish them, but not bikes or motorbikes. Oh, and he used to put his bike and trailer on the pavement, partially blocking it.. Nothing must get in the way of the personal crusade......
@@wibbley1 I would probably have done the same. I sometimes ride on the pavement too. But I don't put anyone at risk, nor did these cyclists. We don't live in a zero-tolerance society, some things, whilst technically illegal, will no be prosecuted as the police will use their 'discretion'.
I remember pointing out CM's utter twattery a couple of years ago and got a right earbashing about it, from loads of his sycophants. I'm glad to be here at the turn of the tide.
Remember seeing Mikey's original clip and making exactly the same remarks as you. I commute via bike and am often faster than cars in traffic, but to claim they 'just get in my way' is a hilariously distorted view to take. Each party accommodates the other, everyone gets to their destinations safely.
I admit that I used to watch, and at times 'like' the videos that Cycling Mikey put together, but as this video shows (and many others before it) he just became a bit too confrontational with his approach - not just with his cycling but how he engages with other people, as with the taxi driver when he feels in the 'right' and did no wrong. As Ashley pointed out, also not challenging other cyclists when they are doing something they shouldn't leads to thoughts of double standards but he also cannot, on numerous occasions, hold his hand up to his own errors. Which is why I only see his videos now on Ashley's channel, much better interpretation of events, what can and should have been done differently to put yourself in position of safety and minimise the risks while cycling - after all, cycling is an activity that should be enjoyed and not one where you put yourself in danger and then shout the odds at someone who did nothing wrong.
I started driving in vehicles quite young, did a lot of cycling and eventually got on motorbikes. The motorbike training and experience has really helped me develop and improve my road awareness and safety, that extends to all vehicles I use. I really like Ashleys cool calm approach and mindset, its what we need more of on our roads.
Good vid Ashley. I commented on this vid and thought he just placed himself in greater danger and conflict with the taxi than was necessary and all he needed to do was just hold back till they were (both) clear of the obstruction. simples!
It might be best to not call cycling mikey an idiot if you are making an objective point. It will only provoke a negative response from him or his followers. I do enjoy watching your videos and try to drive to the standards you demonstrate so keep up the good work. 👍
I saw this with Mikey when he posted it. I did think similar to you about his riding and how he tried to blow it up to make a video. And when he said he sent it to the police, I thought he was disgusting. And I really REALLY can't understand how cyclists get away with what they do? And especially the food delivery people how they go through red lights, up streets the wrong way and no lights at night. I'm sure this is under the SAFETY AT WORK RULES and the companies employing them should be prosecuted and fined for turning a blind eye.
It's argued they're not employees but *independent contractors*. Little known fact - the name on the account does not have to be the same as the person carrying out deliveries. They are allowed to have any random person fill in for them on shift as long as the deliveries are fulfilled - no background check, no accountability, no immigration status
@@brutusbastados4801, reg plates are nothing to do with it, otherwise you wouldn't have drivers breaking the rules continually either. Opposition to reg plates is because it would amount to a degradation of our rights.
It's good what you're doing here Ash, making people aware of what cyclists can and should do whilst also highlighting the unfortunate trend of cyclists uploading their own mistakes but under the guise that everyone else is at fault. CyclingMikey and Jeremy Vine spring to mind. These people ride around, sometimes as if they are a pedestrian at a zoo, just criss crossing around, running red lights, no form or discipline in what they are doing but shout at cars for no reason at all.
I'm generally a bit uncomfortable when people criticise cycling campaigners - when our roads are mostly terrible for bike safety and driving standards seem to be at an all-time low, it seems counterproductive to criticise the few people who spend time documenting how dangerous our roads can be for those on two wheels - however, I completely agree with you in this instance Ashley. Like Jeremy Vine, Mikey has a habit of putting himself in a compromised position deliberately and then playing the victim - and manufactured clips like this do more damage than good to the cause of cycling safety in the UK. They wind drivers up and make them see other people on two wheels as nuisances, which in a week when a five year old lad was killed on his bike in Preston, is the last thing cyclists need. They give us all a bad name!
I completely agree. Mikey is an affable fellow who performs a public service in highlighting and reporting the scourge of phone drivers, but gets a bit carried away sometimes, and that is counterproductive.
Good mindset. I agree. we must have more empathy. I noticed drivers slow down a lot and far away when see someone riding a horse. I think we must have more empathy with other road users. not only with horses. cyclist, lorries drivers etc. understand them and be in their shoes.
@@dubreg6711 I think that's rather harsh. I fully support his anti-phone campaign, and the fewer dodgy motorists we have on the road, the better. Where I take issue is with engaging with people instead of riding off, and his hazard perception skills are not sufficiently tuned to avoid potentially risky situations. Neither of those are deal-breakers for me, and you can see exactly the same from the drivers who submit dashcam footage to other channels. I'd love to see an episode with Ashley Neal and Cycling Mikey together, but I believe that CM turned down the offer. I will repeat that to me, CM seems like an affable chap.
@@PedroConejo1939 I don't condone people on the phone but his attitude towards drivers is pretty diabolical as he clearly goes out of his way to get some form of interaction so he can monetize it in TH-cam l As a motorcycle rider his actions tend to be pretty dangerous for me, hanging outside the filtering line and peering into windows causes me to either stop and rev the shit out of my bike till I force them to move which I have zero problems doing or I have to go way beyond the filtering line that is normally common causing a safety concern for me .you can't have it all your own way the roads are for sharing and he causes nothing but animosity amongst the various road users. But as you say he seems amicable till he gets me hit by another road user so he can make a few pennies
I agree with you Ashley - Mikey not calling out cyclists very often as a "road safety activist" where stationary vehicles is a bigger safety risk than cyclists running crossings! Why doesn't he stand by crossings in London calling out other cyclists?!? He'd get more clicks As for his riding in this - it's stupid and lacks forward planning and in fact shows he actively attempts to block the taxi merge back to the RH lane which is against the HC general guidance
I agre he doesn't do too well in this clip. If it were me, I would have just let the taxi go ahead and slotted in behind him, and if the taxi does turn left, it makes no difference. But having said that, it is up to the taxi to check there isn't anyone occupying the space he's going in to. You obviously can't report cyclists, so what would be the point of calling them out? In any case, someone being inattentive in charge of a tonne of moving metal (even if temporarily stopped) is definitely more dangerous than a cyclist going (fairly slowly) through a red light. Again, I wouldn't do this myself, I always stop for red lights as a cyclist, but in terms of danger there is no comparison. It's just whataboutery to say so. Both types of riding/driving are illegal and wrong, but one is almost infinitely more dangerous. I think that Mikey uses his limited road safety activism time to focus on the the things he believes are most important. He isn't obligated to police everything (or indeed anything), he can do what he chooses. Anyone who thinks cyclists are a problem is entirely free to stand on street corners and call them out for clicks, but I don't see any reason why Mikey should feel obliged to.
@@eddyrichards8474 "a tonne of moving meta" It's usually a tonne of stationary metal when Mikey if filming them. Whataboutism? I call it practice-what-you-preachism.
@@simonharris4873 Well they tend to be moving shortly afterwards if not at the time, and if you watch his clips, he often shows the research demonstrating that concentrating on a phone slows your reaction times as badly or worse than drink driving etc. Not to mention the ones who don't actually look up and start moving forwards with eyes still glued to the screen.
@@eddyrichards8474 Moving while still concentrating on the phone... that's exactly what Mikey is doing. But he's usually moving onto the other side of the road, into the path of any oncoming traffic, all while paying as much attention to the phone as the driver is. BTW, the drink driving comparison isn't entirely accurate. That's only valid for people who are actually operating a vehicle while using their phone. That's not what we're discussing here.
@@simonharris4873No, you are wrong, the distraction causes slowed reaction even once the driver has put the phone down. And many of these drivers continue to use their phone even once they've started moving again. It's just they are obviously easy to catch when stationary. Mikey doesn't usually go into the opposite carriageway, in fact he often doesn't go when I would, rather negating your theory that he is only after clicks (because if he were, he wouldn't wait for cards to pass the other way, as he often does).
Brilliant Ashley. This was exactly how I saw Mikeys video when I watched it too. Excellent use of your own experience to highlight the direct comparison.
I think your assessment of the taxi driver is flawed. The taxi driver clearly did not submit until after the pinch point. Yes, Mikey should have held back behind the taxi, but it should have been clear to the taxi driver that Mikey was not holding back. You stated that the taxi driver was aware of Mikey’s position - so I would have expected you to criticise the taxi driver for failing to ‘make it a non-event’, as you say.
An additional observation regarding the cyclist in the first clip. At around 1:44, they ran the risk of being "doored" by the parked police car, passing within such close proximity to it. Just because a car has the word "Police" written on it is not a guarantee that a door won't open unexpectedly!
The basic police test is just so they can use the car as a runabout rather than doing it on foot, higher level than the standard driving test but below the advanced test.
So you're putting the onus of reaponsibility on to the vulnerable party to do something rather than the person who can do the harm? Wh are you attacking the cyclist when we all know motorists are on the horn and screaming at cyclists for being in the middle of the road. Now here you are attacking them for not riding wide enough because another motorist could harm them by not bothering to look properly. ffs!
The highway code puts the onus on all road users to look out for their own safety. Your desire to perpetually be the victim won;t help you in the slightest when you cycle straight into the open door because you passed to close to the stationary vehicle.@@ynotnilknarf39
@@ynotnilknarf39 I ride a motorbike, I avoid the door zone, yes it is an offence to open a door to endanger someone, but being right and taking some steps to avoid the situation altogether just makes sense.
When I'm cycling I always remember this verse from the late, great Spike Milligan. Here lies the body of Christopher Grey, He died maintaining his right of way, He was right, dead right, as he sped along, But he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong. Drive or cycle defensively, always.
I'm still conflicted about whether Micky's channel is a good thing (probably does reduce phone use on the roads), but either way he doesn't always seem very modest and if he's gonna cycle like this he's got some learning to do
I think mikey, vine and all the Twitter culture wars put pressure on government to build better infrastructure. Having two angry groups of ppl isn’t good for politics. (Unless you’re a populist politician, then culture wars are great 😂).
To me what he does around phone drivers I don't like he is not the police and one day he will say it to the wrong driver that may up doing some kind of harm happen to him.
@@metromadness2016 They are pretty poor reasons. The police work by crimes being reported to them. Let's give an extreme example of someone being stabbed. No police officers saw the stabbing. So by your logic, anyone who witnessed the criminal behaviour shouldn't report it, because they're not the police. Not really how society works. Secondly, we shouldn't be afraid to report crimes for fear of violent backlash. If someone physically hurts you because you are going to report a crime they committed, that is also a crime and should be reported.
@@jmeadowbrooks Stabbing...? Interesting. Now use a more appropriate example. A victimless crime which has now chance of causing injury to anyone. Because that's what Mikey reports to the police. Most of his reports to the police are stationary vehicles. Stationary vehicles pose much less of a risk than those like Mikey who ride dangerously in order to film them.
@@simonharris4873 Except that being in control of a stationary car and using your mobile phone is still dangerous, therefore not a victimless crime. I said that I didn't agree with Mikey's riding in the original post. I don't get the point of what you're arguing about.
Cyclingmikey is a hypocrite because he NEVER calls out illegal moves by cyclists and he’s a danger on the roads, I’ve been saying this for years, thank you for calling him out Ashley.
The police can't track down cyclists as no licence plate. At gandalf corner, his excuse for not stopping them is he doesnt want them to fall over and get hurt if he stops them.
@@DemiGod.. That is just an excuse for not concentrating on the road because he is too busy learing into people's windows, and not focussing on the road ahead of him. What a pathetic excuse for not stopping at red traffic lights, and what sorry existence it must be to be Cyclingmikey. If Kahn wants everyone on bicycles in London, then we need them to be licenced, have speedometers of some kind, or a tracker that tracks their speed, and have insurance, so when they knock over and kill innocent elderly people walking in a park, they can be held FULLY accountable and not get away scot free.
I don't quite agree with all the things you said but you can tell from the camera wobbling even through the stabilisation at 4 minutes it seems he's putting in some welly to accelerate and close the space!
I disagree re your comments re phone drivers and cyclists running red. Phone driving is more dangerous than many realise, and he has bo way of reporting cyclists who run reds. He also regularly calls out cyclists in the videos, but maybe didnt here. Having said that, i totally agree with the rest. When you go lookong for trouble you'll inevitably find it, whereas of you take your attitude towards road use what could have been trouble become non events. The arguing from CM always does strike me as a need to be right and be the hero/victim. If reporting to police is the deterrant then report to the police. Arguing and giving out on the road does nothing but stroke egos.
the difference in potential damage done by someone riding a bike running a red and a distracted phone driver causing an incident is pretty huge. It is way more dangerous than people realise... five people die on Britain's roads every day. but yeah people will always make mistakes... and both Ashley and Mikey are getting views from their content
As a cyclist, taking a car lane is one thing, but you are generally going to be the slower vehicle, so just like other slow vehicles, staying in the inner lane should be preferred. But in a few cyclist-unfriendly intersections, taking a different lane might be warranted. In this case taking the outer lane might actually be a good idea, as it forces a certain kind of driver, who can't fathom zip-lock merging with a bicycle, to stay behind. But that idea falls completely apart when you then proceed to fail zip-lock merging yourself.
If he rides his bike with safety and proper awareness, he'll have nothing to upload!! What else is he going to do with his spare time then?!?!? Do you want him to be bored? Lol
this is the biggest issue on the road people need to learn to share the space use bike paths when they are there its this kind of situation that is making an allmost car vs cylclist situation then the cyclist cause pedestrians issues uas well the UK transport situation needs to be one for all
This is going to be a fun one on -Twitter- X this weekend with a select group calling out a few phrases, most likely anti cyclists or victim blaming. The taxi could’ve perhaps showed more intent earlier on when traffic started moving again but any road user who wants to remain safe knows you don’t walk / ride / drive into a narrowing or restriction alongside another road user, that is purely asking for trouble. Yes, the taxi driver perhaps shouldn’t have gone as much as they did but they were slowing and it appeared Mikey was slowing with. Trying to keep safe or making it closer? Not sure on that one Would Mikey have done the same had the taxi remained in lane 2 and cycled up the nearside to force in front? Maybe 🤷🏻♂️ We all have a responsibility out there and being aware of everyone around you is important just as much as knowing what space others are going into. What is that phrase again…. Don’t arrive at the same place at the same time. Being a space closer is the opposite, you are making sure you arrive at the same place at the same time. This is true for all road users, not just drivers
@@Bigbossperson I will always give an opinion from both sides as I like to look into how everything on the roads can be improved. I am always looking at my own driving to see how it can improve and get better. If I was still able to ride a bike I would do the same for that as well. The only way things can improve for the better is if everyone improves The analysis will come from a cycling perspective as this is on the cycling channel. The same as a driver exhibiting similar driving styles of blocking a merge or MGIF will be called out on the main driving channel This can appear as bias sometimes and I can see why some would see it that way but I don't, I see it as education to help cyclists stay safe out there and to look after themselves more. I am aware there has been issues in the past with Mikey and Ashley but I do believe that Ashley will say things in hope that it will help Mikey, and other cyclists in their future rides to avoid dangerous situations regardless of who is right or who is wrong
Theyre quite different situations. Try reading rule 133 of the highway code. "If you need to change lane, first use your mirrors and if necessary take a quick sideways glance to make sure you will not force another road user to change course or speed. When it is safe to do so, signal to indicate your intentions to other road users and when clear, move over."
Mikey is the complete opposite of making things a non event. I would find it very stressful to ride or drive in that confrontational and aggressive manner. I used to watch their channel but it went just like some other dashcam channels where they are out for content. I’m sure they could still get content without acting in this way.
Cyclists should cycle like they are driving a car: follow all the rules of the road; give priority rather than take it; etc. Hostility either way isn't achieving anything! People are terrible on the roads (regardless of bike or car), we all just need to take a step back and relax a little. And you Ashley, are doing a great job teaching that: my driving and cycling has improved so much with your videos. 'Make a situation a non-situation' is the best advice for avoiding incidents and harm.
@@New-ye2fl What should they be doing different. Again: what exactly are you actually taking issue with? You seem to be wilfully taking a simplistic perspective. Maybe you have misunderstood, maybe there is nuance I thought was obvious but isn't: I cannot tell, because you're just repeating shallow (obvious) statement without detail. Yes, a bike is not the same as a car. Well done. I didn't say there were. I was saying you don't get special rules if you drive or if you cycle.
@@ao-b2774 Aw thanks for that riveting walkthrough, please tell us more. I think that’s exactly what we need, as we’ve already established, these aren’t the same, so why have the same laws/rules?
It’s like Jeremy vine, clip he put up other day about 2 cars arguing over him when at the end, it just stops abruptly as he hits the line where the lights on red but he shows no signs of stopping
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He's explained it often - he would if he could, but there isn't a way of doing this. He focuses on where he can do the most which is cars, and to be fair they pose the most danger on roads statistically. @@johndd9140
The thing I've found with a lot of these 'bike vs car' incidents is that the drivers are the ultimate idiots, but sometimes the cyclist makes it slightly worse. The point I'm making is that cyclists get so much hate when in reality the drivers do a lot worse. I'm not in any way defending cyclingmikey - he's a bit of an idiot on his bike. I'm just saying that people overlook the 95% of cyclists who obey the law and are sensible, instead pointing the finger at the 5% who do something wrong. But this attitude won't change - it doesn't matter how many studies show that bikes break the law much less than cars, people will still blame the bikes for the issues cars cause. People will always hate on bikes just because they don't understand basic concepts like level of risk to bikes and induced demand. My main point is that bikes shouldn't have to share the road with cars. They also shouldn't be subject to all the same rules as cars, instead they should be protected by both laws and good bike infrastructure. UK law basically treats bikes and cars as the same thing, but they're not. *We need better bike infrastructure, or at least lower speed limits (20mph = 30km/h)*
And yes, to please all of you ignorant drivers, Mikey cycles like an idiot. But that doesn't mean all bikes are bad - I've only seen two idiotic cyclists in real life throughout my entire life. And surely you'd rather get someone this bad at cycling out of the road and onto protected cycle paths?! For themselves and for others!
Very informative video, Although I know what Cycling Mikey is trying to do, but, I think he causes more issues than he realises. I wonder how long the traffic queue gets behind him when he stands in front of a car at Gandalf corner?
I've thought Mikey's overly assertive cycling style seems likely to end badly quite often, but I do respect him for what he's trying to do. We need to take into account that there is a huge difference between the consequences of a car getting hit by a bicycle versus the other way round. I lost the whole front end of my VW LT van after a lorry driver was on the phone trying to find his way lost in North London, I literally avoided death or serious injury by inches, if a cyclist had hit me I doubt he'd have even left a dent. ( BTW. The artic driver admitted fault immediately and I got a brand new van within 2 weeks. He was actually a really nice guy, just not used to London and really shouldn't have been using his phone as a satnav. Driving a van in London every day of the week you quickly learn how to let go of frustration at the w...krs, or you get ill!
Very frustrating, I support Mikey's advocacy for better road safety, the fact Gandalf Corner is a thing is absolutely nuts as I'd never dream of skipping round a traffic island to beat traffic, but here he's absolutely let himself down. I'm torn about the whole 'riding with camera' thing now as I DO NOT want to be associated with this behaviour, that is NOT why I wear a camera. I don't want content, a good ride for me is when I can clear the camera afterwards, and that's 99.9% of my rides.
The phrase 'You just get in my way' sums up this man's attitude.
The man's an absolute melt
I actually laughed aloud when he said that.
That's exactly what I thought. And it's not just him either. There are plenty on 2 wheels who have similar attitudes.
@@simonharris4873 Luckily it's different here in the Netherlands. Dumb cyclists, yes. Impervious, yes. Entitled, hardly any.
@@Jasper_4444 Not so fast. I found myself unknowingly standing on a biike path when I was out the front of a pub in Amsterdam. As a pack approached, they rang their bells at me, so I just stood still, allowing them plenty of room to go around me, which most did. One decided to line me up and ride straight into me, then abuse me for being there. Could have easily gone around., but she actually changed direction so she could hit me. Sounds entitled to me.
Cycling Mikey guide to "road safety" content creation:
- Find a subject driver
- Put yourself in the worst possible position
- Wait for the inevitable issues
- Yell at the driver, make a video, and report them
- Act like anyone criticising your own actions are haters and anti-cyclist, their views mean nothing if it doesn't fit your narrative.
- rinse and repeat: remember never to learn from any of these situations
Absolutely. He's a first class gobshite.
There will come a day when he will be uploading videos from a hospital bed, and even then it won't go through his mind about whether he was in the wrong
@@MichaelGeorge161 Or that he picked on the wrong people in the wrong car.
Is jumping on a car bonnet optional?
It's too profitable to do anything different. He also likes the internet points he gets from the cycling twitter/yt echo-chamber circle-jerk.
With the amount of short tempered people around these days. I’m amazed Mikey has been doing this for so long without provoking the wrong person.
It only has to happen once...
(I hope it doesn't)
@user-sf7kl9uh7k I hope it does.
Well it did in the gandolf videos. He got run over twice. By mercedes and a I think a Range Rover
TH-cam autofill when you’re searching cyclingmikey shows what people wanna see 😂
He sqeals like a pig when it happens & rides off shouting to siri to call the police 🚔 😂 he's an out & out pussay 😊
Glad you're pointing this stuff out Ashley! Mikey reminds me a lot of TH-cam "auditors" who tend to create a situation for clicks.
Cycling Mikey puts himself in danger for clicks….
You shall not pa-aaarghhh! ;)
He was spot on when he stopped idiots cutting across at Gandalf Corner but just lately he seems to be copying Jeremy Vine's clickbait videos.
I don't watch him because of that he does things that is not needed.
TH-cam (or in his case more "YouChube") is the only site we have in common. I've blocked him, but I'll still watch 3rd party analysis of his clips.
Well he won't be getting my clicks. As a cyclist myself I find his arrogance utterly bewildering. He sets a very very bad example to newer cyclists who may well assume that they too are justified putting themselves at risk when it is not necessary.
I commented on one of Mikey's clips recently. He was filtering down the middle of the road looking in car windows. He slams on the brakes with no warning to film a phone user. He had several cyclists and moped riders behind him. They all had to stop and wait for oncoming traffic to pass before they could go around him. I commented that he should be careful suddenly stopping like that. He replied "its their fault if they hit me, they shouldn't be traveling so close" He had no regard for traffic flow and his militant vigilantly mentality trumps all other road users apparently.
Ah, so using the same logic I can stop on a motorway. After all if a collision occurs, "it's their fault if they hit me because they should be following at a safe distance and must pay attention". The lack of accountability from some people is astounding, the ol' "I'm perfect and everyone else is the problem" mentality
I don't think you could reason with him in any shape or form.
@@SurgeDashcam not really the same logic, it's actually illegal to stop on a motorway (or drive below 30mph).
I made similar comments on his video and he managed to shadow ban me permanently. He cannot take criticism. Him and Jeremy Vine are like two peas in a pod.
@@boostar155 Rule 271: You MUST NOT stop on any carriageway, emergency area, hard shoulder, slip road, central reservation or verge except in an emergency, or when told to do so by the police, traffic officers, an emergency sign or by red flashing light signals.
Do not stop on any part of a motorway to make or receive mobile telephone calls, except in an emergency.
Rule 253: Prohibited vehicles. Motorways MUST NOT be used by pedestrians, holders of provisional motorcycle licences, riders of motorcycles under 50 cc (4 kW), cyclists, horse riders, certain slow-moving vehicles
The taxi did no wrong here. Mikey is being a dick on this occasion. And as for that cyclist pushing through pedestrians, that's a total no no. I see that a lot when I'm cycling and it really pisses me off.
Did you see the 2 who ran the red light at the end? That was a junction, and they both ran the red. Although you don't actually see the guy with the beard run the red, it's clear that he did when you see how far ahead he is.
"Mikey is being a dick on this occasion"...you mean "...most if not ALL the time"
Mikey is a dick 24/7 not on occasions
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Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven
There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today
Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell
Come to Jesus Christ today
Jesus Christ is only way to heaven
Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today
Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
Romans 6.23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
When I ride, I purposely try NOT to get in anybody's way, and not occupy the same space as cars. I often also wait behind Taxi's (and buses) at lights (instead of trying to scoot along the inside where there's no space, just to get ahead and make them have to overtake again when the lights change, like many other cyclists do). But then again, I'm just trying to get to work in one piece, not generate content and clicks for a youtube channel...
Same here!
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Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Come to Jesus Christ today
Jesus Christ is only way to heaven
Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today
Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
for safety , sometimes you need to ride in primary and take the space of a car
Well that is because you are considerate and intelligent-unlike cycling mikey...
I like how, even in Mikey's video, half the comments are blaming him or saying things he could have done differently, but he is just repeating the same "I honestly expected him to turn left" argument. Maybe Mikey should learn on his hazard perception, and learn to read other vehicle's body language better?
My comments keep disappearing from his channel if I suggest he could have done better. My main objection is antagonising drivers who are already agitated. I support his phone campaign, but some of the verbal is unnecessary.
@@PedroConejo1939 i had interaction with him on twitter. He abused me, then blocked me, then several other British cycling accounts came to abuse me for a while only to block me one after another as I continued to politely explain why cyclist in a video we all commented was wrong.
Had the very same situation with Jeremy Vine, btw, after pointed out what he was doing wrong on his video :D
@@orysCases of 'thems that hand it out can't take it'.
he has a narrative, which anyone (who if not a follower at the church of cyclingmikey) would find plainly absurd. Hug a lunatic, protect them from the real world, make them better and then release them
BMW driver here, we politely decline this notion Mikey is one of us, that entitlement is more Audi territory.
I'm an Audi driver, and we don't want him either! 😂 Stereotypes aside, an idiot is an idiot, regardless of what they're driving or riding
Anticipation and forward planning has a lot to answer for. This problem could have been avoided. As a former bus driver, I use to encounter cyclists like this. Best thing is to just ignore them.
Just in case you want to peg him as a Jeep driver, it’s a resounding no from me!
Audi TT driver and occasional cyclist here. I decline the association with Mikey. Whether driving or cycling I do my utmost to do so safely, respect other road users, and belie the contempt in which I am well aware that Audi drivers and cyclists are held,
I'm an Audi driver AND a white van driver, he's not one of us 🤣
I have no issues 99.99% of the time when I cycle. Mikey though like Jeremy Vine seem to have near death experiences every trip. Wonder who the better cyclist is. They really need to calm down and just enjoy the ride, which will make them live longer due to lower blood pressure and stress.
Earlier today had to slow down from 30mph down to 15mph due to a pedestrain crossing without looking, wasn't bothered, mikey though would have blown a gasket.
That's because these sort of riders anticipate problems (I'd argue their anticipation for what's going to happen is way above average) but instead of mitigating them they actively try and exacerbate the problems further combine this with a real belief that every action that everyone else takes is to spite them personally and you have the recipe for your average camera cyclist/ driver.
Let's also not forget that you're not incentivised to cause issues through money and/or exposure which I imagine does drive their behaviour somewhat.
no drama no clicks simple as that :) Glad you can enjoy riding without drama
I think, we must go more deep and understand their childhood. to understand why they behave this way. I am talking seriously and not trying to put them down or similar. but really. they do this because is something they learnt , it is like a mechanism to socialize with others. or the way to feel good them self. something like that.
@@ianbarton1990 This is precisely why GDPR rules should cover mobile cameras as well as stationary. I can't upload the footage from my doorbell cam, that would be a breach of GDPR. Neither should people like Mike.
Remember Vine reporting the Waitrose truck driver for a 'close pass' and demanding that he be sacked...when the real offender was a police 'cycling expert' who couldn't ride in a straight line?
IIRC Waitrose reviewed the video from the truck and publicly responded that the truck driver had conducted himself perfectly.
Many trucks operating in London have all round video recording running constantly...which is one of the reasons why the Met police now hardly ever prosecute truck drivers for 'killing' cyclists.
I sometimes also see folks "Walking Like a BMW Driver Drives".
A few weeks ago I was in a shop and as I went to exit, someone barged in front and forced myself and someone else to stop. They then proceeded to weave around people and throw the arms in the air when a van was blocking the road they wanted to cross
I thought to myself “If Audi made shoes he would be wearing them”
As I walked to my car I saw an Audi screeching round the corner of the car park on the opposite side of the road. The driver….
….was the same person from before 😁
And greetings from a previously sunny but now extremely wet Staffordshire
@@smilerbob That was quite priceless. You couldn't make that up! And I loved the bit about "If Audi made shoes".
I've seen pedestrians rush past other folks just to get to the curbside and have to wait for the pedestrian "Walk" signal. Just like some drivers rush to a red light.
@@smilerbob Greetings from Canterbury with a similar weather pattern. Driving home from North Greenwich yesterday (after attending Everything Electric London at Excel), it was very windy and I often kept my speed down to around 55 mph. Even slower when crossing the Medway bridge on the M2 where I could feel the wind even more. Was surprised to see others still driving at 70 mph+ in such strong winds. The O2 cable car was actually cancelled for the return journey from Excel to O2 in the afternoon, which I had suspected in advance would happen and hence bought only one way tickets for the two of us. Caught the DLR & underground for the journey back to O2.
Tomorrow it's off to London Olympia for the Ideal Home Show. As always, I'll endeavour to get some "quality" driving in for the return journey. I avoid driving through London itself and instead go clockwise around the M25 and then east along the M4. Park in Hammersmith and then walk around 20 mins along Kensington High Street to Olympia. Parking already booked in advance as it's much more cost effective..and considerably less than parking at Olympia itself, as well as far less crowded. The journey back to Canterbury is simply the exact same route in the reverse direction, again avoiding the shorter route through London.
@@ibs5080 I used to see that travelling on the roads all the time. Many occasions I have had the windows open to reduce the effect of the cross wind and keeping my speed to that of lorries to further reduce any lane drifting yet others will happily come along in lane 2 lane 3 (they can't keep it in either) doing 80+
Safe travels tomorrow and hope the show is good for you. It has been a while since I have been alongside the yellow frame of the O2, maybe one day this year I will see it again. Or it might be the towers of the Dartford bridge or the sight of planes heading over the M25...depending on which route is the quickest
This Cycling Mikey is an absolutely nightmare the Police needs to start looking at him 😢
that'll never happen he makes them too much money
The police on his side, everyone he reports gets prosecuted quickly getting 6 points.
Cycling MIkey's last words: "It was my right of way!"
Wrong…
“It was my right of w…. Aaaarggh”
As a driving instructor once said: there are many people in the morgue who had the right of way
100% with you phrase@@MichaelGeorge161
when I passed my driving test my dad advised, no sorry, warned me that everyone else on the road was trying to kill me. why do cyclists seem so f'kin oblivious to the obvious risks? oh I get it "it was my right of way" cretinous sheep following the likes of JV, CM et al and believing they are invincible
Epitaph: Here lies Cycling Mikey who died defending his right of way.
2 Tone vehicle vs 20kg vehicle i will let that speak for itself in the terms of danger and proportion
"Now you're holding me up," 🤣Mikey wouldn't worry about holding up the Taxi though...Hypocrite. I've seen a few of his videos. He's another one of those who possibly started out with good intentions but now is just DESPERATE for content to keep his channel going, so posts anything. He's also incredibly thin skinned. I made a comment on one of his videos and he got REALLY narky.
You're right, I've commented a couple of times on his site...he gets a right 'Strop on' if you have the temerity to criticise him...He's very anti car, in fact he's anti everything except bicycles
@brianperry I disagree, given how he rides around other cyclists, I've concluded he has just as little respect for cyclists as any other road user. "You're anti-cyclist!" Is just the shield he uses from criticism and a soapbox he markets his content on, not an indication he actually cares about the welfare of other cyclists.
yup zero backbone and can't take any form of criticism, clearly has an inferiority complex and this is his outlet and hides behind his camera with a passive aggressive attitude
What comment did you make
@@thecrispymaster He is the golden boy of the CPR though.
I'll tell you😊 why I have a dash cam. It is to improve my own driving as much as anyone elses. From time to time we ALL get in to "situations", sometimes we get beeped at, sometimes one thinks "that was close", other times one thinks "where the heck did they come from"..... When there is a problem the cards come out, they go in the PC and I review the footage. Did I do something wrong, or is it the other person who was wrong (or making a mountain out of a mole hill)? If it is the former I try and learn from it, if it is the latter also I try and learn from it so as not to potentially trigger people again in the same way. It IS very tempting to try and teach people how to drive, but it is unlikely to work and one risks making a situation out of nothing and having an incident blow up in ones face.
Indeed and I am the same, always looking to improve and not provoke others. Only by reviewing the footage is it possible to take an objective view of a situation and see things that were potentially missed previously.
I used to try to teach others on the road and all that did was increase stress levels, distract my concentration and actually made my journeys longer. So glad those London days are behind me
Excellent, super. that is the mindset. I do the same. my rear camera is the one which give me more learning stuff. Sometimes I over react. and checking the video, mmm I noticed I was wrong etc. or I can did something to allow me be safe and others.
One of the best comments on these types of video I've ever read. I drive a lot and yes I make mistakes from time to time and see mistakes from others too. Thing is like you say you can learn from both... a pity not everyone sees it that way.
Use one myself to improve my driving. Even though an advanced driver, nobody is perfect, always something to learn. Reviewing footage is also a good way to see if there is anything I missed.
*Comment for the opening clip:* I think it would help a lot if the signs you can see at 0:30 and 0:38 on the left had a simple caption added below "USE BOTH LANES". If that was added as standard, I think problems of lane policing would slowly disappear.
*Comment for the CyclingMikey Clip:* I remember thinking when the video was originally released that Mikey didn't do himself any favours. He must've known from past experience that the road narrowed into a single lane. I seriously doubt that was his first time down that stretch of road. He therefore could easily have just waited back a little and simply let the taxi return back to the lane he was in. If I recall correctly, I think quite a lot of commenters did call him out on that one.
I agree about the signage being inadequate, and even when there is clear filter in turn signage the actual lane closure signs tend to contradict it by showing one lane or the other closed rather than an overall narrowing from both sides equally. This creates the I'm in the correct lane, you are queue jumping mentality.
One for changes to traffic management practices I think.
One guy is literally trying to earn a living as a taxi driver. And another earning living by being a ####.
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Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven
There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today
Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell
Come to Jesus Christ today
Jesus Christ is only way to heaven
Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today
Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
Romans 6.23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
One thing mikey will have done is angered him, which will result in his driving deterioating. Mikey is a bully backed by the police and CPR, everyone he reports getting 6 points.
Well done for calling Cycling Mikey out. He's a menace.
I agree, an absolute arrogant moron. This clip shows quite clearly that he believes that he's untouchable.
The thing I've found with a lot of these 'bike vs car' incidents is that the drivers are the ultimate idiots, but sometimes the cyclist makes it slightly worse.
The point I'm making is that cyclists get so much hate when in reality the drivers do a lot worse.
I'm not in any way defending cyclingmikey - he's a bit of an idiot on his bike. I'm just saying that people overlook the 95% of cyclists who obey the law and are sensible, instead pointing the finger at the 5% who do something wrong.
But this attitude won't change - it doesn't matter how many studies show that bikes break the law much less than cars, people will still blame the bikes for the issues cars cause. People will always hate on bikes just because they don't understand basic concepts like level of risk to bikes and induced demand.
My main point is that bikes shouldn't have to share the road with cars. They also shouldn't be subject to all the same rules as cars, instead they should be protected by both laws and good bike infrastructure.
UK law basically treats bikes and cars as the same thing, but they're not.
*We need better bike infrastructure, or at least lower speed limits (20mph = 30km/h)*
And yes, he's an idiot. But don't get angry at 'cyclists' in general just because there are a few bad apples out there.
@@dylancode But it's not a few bad apples. Go stand at a pedestrian crossing for an hour and count how many stop and how many don't. I think you'll find the phrase "a few good apples" is far more accurate.
@@simonharris4873 But the point is that drivers break the law a lot more than cyclists do.
I agree that bikes absolutely should stop at pedestrian crossings, but I've never seen someone not stop.
I will admit something - a few weeks ago I was so focused on someone about to overtake me that I didn't even notice a pedestrian crossing light... I don't think it was red, but I'll admit that I was completely unaware at that point - and I'm sure I'd have made it onto Ashley's cycling fails!
Anyway, the point is that drivers do a lot worse than cyclists. And cycling does a lot less damage than driving.
I don't know where you live, but here in the UK cyclists get SO much hate when our drivers here are pretty terrible too.
But as I said in my initial comment, some people will never accept that cycling is a good mode of transport, no matter how good it is.
I also think that bikes should be able to (slowly) go through red / red+amber lights if they're sure it's safe, as it allows them to get a headstart from cars. This helps keep the bikes safer and also helps drivers as well as they don't have to wait behind bikes.
But ideally yes, everyone would stop at pedestrian lights. But in the UK I see SO MANY cars running the red at the pedestrian crossing near my house. Every single day. And I've never seen a single bike go through (except one who I let go).
Think what you think, but cars break the laws a lot more than bikes. That's been proved so many times.
A very long time ago , l heard a police motorcycle patrol rider say...''It doesn't matter whose fault it was if you're dead''... Cycling Mikey would do well to heed such advice...
The thing they keep saying to me is “I’m only putting myself in danger”. Bet that will look great on their gravestone. 🙄
@@Tillyard86 Even then if you as a driver (or cyclist) are involved in injuring or even worse killing someone else, it can have a massive toll on you, even if it's not your fault.
@@sebastien79a right on! It's such a selfish attitude, it also implies they don't have any friends or family that might care about the fact they are dead.
Remember the story of good old Fred. He was in the right, but he is still dead.
It works for helmet/bike cams exactly as it does for dashcams: our conduct is just as exposed as anybody else's. We either put our hands up to our mistakes, or we try to push our luck.
At last someone calling out @CyclingMikey. The videos I have seen of him show aggressive confrontation right from the off, and this is to bait the drivers into a response which makes good video. This is really not helping relations between cyclists and car drivers and probably has a detrimental effect on safety overall. I feel sorry that some people have such sad existences that they feel the need to become a campaigner for something or other and try and impose 'the rules' one everyone else. How much nicer would the world be if everyone just got on with their OWN lives and let others do the same. Leave trying to enforce your views and opinions to the Police.
Also in Mikey`s video, the bike in the left lane with the blue helmeted rider in front of the taxi was allowed to go straight ahead and merge into the single lane by the black Merc. Mikey definitely needs to adopt a bit of merging sequencing etiquette. The taxi was in front of Mikey approaching the single lane but Mikey decided to recklessly overtake at that point. If Mikey thought the taxi was going to do a left why did he say "And why would you do that, you just get in my way" as the move would have been perfectly acceptable if the taxi was turning left.
As Ashley mention so much Staggered formation. not only in this scenario. in the motorway. etc
He’s like the school grass. By the look of him I bet in the future he ends up on the news for something he won’t want all over TH-cam. 😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah, doesn't really show Mikey in the best light. Definitely could do better.
I'm sort of torn on the subject of Mikey. I agree with his mission to stop people using mobiles in cars, but i don't like the confrontational way he does it. He could just report them rather than tapping on windows and deliberately baiting them. I can't help feeling that one day someone is going to climb out of a car and do him a serious injury, and he will have brought it on himself.
Yeah, I've always held this view.
He does what he does because his own father was killed by a motorist who was on their phone, and I genuinely think the hundreds of convictions for phone use in vehicles based on his video evidence has done a great public service.
But it's very clear that he antagonises people for content. And quite frankly, the only thing worse than a rule-breaking, dangerous motorist is an angry, flustered rule-breaking motorist. In that moment, you're increasing risk for everyone by antagonising them.
Just capture the evidence and move on, I say
@@Bedfordshiremanwholeheartedly agree with you...
I don't really see the big problem if your stationary tbh, personally non related generally aggressive bad driving that police use to deal with before vigilanties and cameras is what really needs dealing with.
That one would go viral for sure. 😀
@@BedfordshiremanI believe it was a drunk driver rather than a phone driver, but yes, I agree that his anti-phone-driving campaign is a true public service. I cringe sometimes at the contretemps he gets himself into though. Leave the distress for when the letter drops though their letterbox.
The only thing that would really make his videos more rewarding is something he can rarely do: report full penalties applied. That's down to the police providing the info though.
Absolutely agree "content creator posing as a road safety activist" there's a few of those now. Making life difficult causing issues where there don't need to be any. Roads are full of people like this.
Jeremy vine too
The funny thing is, where you pause the video at 3.09, there is clearly a bike lane for Mikey to enter, so the taxi was not even in his way.
Interesting, I missed that. By the way, here in the Netherlands it would be an offence not to use that bike lane. That's not the case in the UK?
@JasperKloek that is interesting. I do not know if it is an offence or not to not use the bike lane when available in the UK. If it is, it is not something that is widely enforced as cyclists weave in and out of traffic all the time in London.
I see. Here in NL we don't weave so much. Cyclists pretty much always stay on the right hand side, even when turning left. (If they indicate left in a timely way, many motorists will just stop for them though they don't have to. Or, the cyclist will just wait for a gap.)
@@Jasper_4444 It's not compulsory to use cycle lanes in the UK. Some of them are poorly-designed thus causing cyclists to use the road instead. If I were cycling in London I'd use cycle lanes at every opportunity; it would reduce a lot of stress. My guess is that in the Netherlands most motorists are regular cyclists too; your cycle "culture" is light years ahead of Britain's. I'm fortunate enough to live in Norwich where the cycle lanes are well-planned and where motorists are by and large considerate.
Yes I spotted that, he is clearly looking for trouble by staying on the road. It shouldn't be an "option" to use the road if there is a designated lane. This guy is such a tosser.
The irony of Mikey saying "You Just get in my way" as he passes the entrance to the bike lane that would have helped him avoid all the traffic in the first place and is there to improve safety by creating separation
The cycle lane wouldn't have been any use for someone going straight on this road.
This one resonated with me. I'm a cyclist and a driver. Subscribed
The fact CM reported the driver shows a complete lack of self awareness, despite having the luxury of re-watching the incident. I doubt very much the Taxi driver received an awareness course, the driving seemed to be of a good standard to me.
Thank you for making these. Attitude is everything, competitive and confrontational road users make things worse for everyone, whether they have two wheels or four. I commute to work in London on a bike five days a week and very rarely have any significant problems. Yet somehow riders like this have multiple incidents whenever they go out, because they are trying to make problems worse instead of avoid or fix them. A real embarrassment.
So many cyclists have no "road craft". Cycling Mikey is an obvious one but there are many out there. You need to be concentrating 100% all the time.
Spot on Ashley. I’m seeing a lot of comments on those types of videos that can see right through them. A lot of people are using the same type of language and phrases that you use. You’re clearly making a positive difference and getting through to people. I’ve always had a good attitude when driving in terms of believing that we’re all one team on the road but you have improved my skills so much. Little simple improvements make a huge difference. I thought I was a good driver when I passed my test. People told me I was very calm and a good driver but I didn’t have enough forward thinking techniques and was a little reactive. Over the years I’ve realised how little I knew as I’ve learnt so much since.
This sound so good. excellent. I am in the same boat
I a amazed Cycling Mikeys camera has not been used by someone against him as a colonoscopy camera by now.
as a cyclist, this makes my blood boil I can't say what I think he is because YT would tell me off but it's a bit like "ignorant that".
Your channel is excellent at educating road users. I was expecting car drivers to gain, but I think cyclists can learn as much. Mikey is confrontational and just out for content. Sadly this makes life more dangerous for other cyclists in general.
What makes your blood "boil"?
Hahaha, you need spell checker.
@@ynotnilknarf39 i'll give you a clue: it's not bad taxi drivers!
As a cyclist it’s disgraceful, why report the taxi driver, he did a great job.
The attitude I have on my bike is what can I do so I’m not a hindrance to faster moving vehicles
I remember very well the recent opening clip at the roadworks merge in turn. It's interesting how some drivers will make a big deal out of something so routine and could have gone so much more smoothly without any aggro whatsoever. As Ashley said, "It is what it is". Oh well.
The cycling gloves are most definitely off! At least you have the upper hand, Ashley, since everything you have said against Mikey makes sense, in regards to potential risk, and safety. He hasn't a leg to stand, or cycle on. Good you had a clip of your own, which you already shown, as an example. I hope Mikey doesn't have the last word 😕
He will do what he always does when Ashley criticises his cycling. Run away and act the victim.
Thinking about it, he provides bad drivers with the perfect template for an excuse: "I was/wasn't expecting them to do XYZ". In this clip his excuse is "I was expecting the taxi driver to turn left". If you accept that excuse you also have to accept it the other way around, "I was expecting the cyclist to slow down/ turn left/ turn right/ have seen me/give way/ take your pick".If it applies one way it also applies the other.
he needs to learn to expect the unexpected .
@@derekheeps1244Learning to expect the expected would be a start. But there's no risk of that, because it doesn't give him a video to post.
Doesn't work like that in his head you see, assumptions and right to error is only reserved for him, everyone else must be on their absolute perfect behaviour or he reports them. Rather pathetic.
As they may say in the States, "HEY [profane insult of choice], HEARD OF ZIPPER MERGING!?"
Remember Spitting image? Altogether now..."Oh, I've never met a nice South African"..... Nice one, Mikey.😁
He`s Rhodesian.
@@irishboer7124Same Same. White African arrogance. I work with some. I know!
At around 3:55 the taxi was already in front of CM & with the left lane closure coming up a short distance away. So it would have made sense to let the taxi "merge in turn" first rather than try to close the space down on a bike. To be a space closer on a bike when you are up against a taxi and hence far more vulnerable makes very little sense anyway, regardless of who is right or wrong. Even more so when it was legitimately the taxi's turn to merge.
a bit like a motorist trying to close the space on an artic.
The taxi driver was lane hopping, the Merc and the other taxi stayed in their lane, why didn't the other tai driver? Not saying that CM couldn't have defused the situation but the taxi driver did not use his mirrors/over the shoulder check and was the one trying to MGIF hence the lane hopping.
Sometimes even if you consider that you have right of way it is better to back off rather than to be dead
Changing lane would have made sense if the taxi was turning left, but with the traffic backed up as it was the taxi driver was just trying to get a jump on the other road users.
@@ynotnilknarf39 Please point me to the section in the highway code which states that you're not allowed to change lanes.
Oh I've definitely had times where a lane closure means people need to change lanes, when im cycling. Just hold back and allow merge in turn? Looked like the taxi was slightly ahead so the cyclist could have eased off the pedals and it would have all worked out. Shame he didn't take the opportunity to be the one to fix things.
Exactly that is the correct to do or be faster than the taxi and avoid the blind spot and before the taxi need to merge to another lane. why is so hard share the road. Simple "the EGO" I am Mr. right etc.
I tend not to mind CM, he rightfully stops people making an arse of themselves at "Gandalf corner", but he does antagonise and drag out arguments a bit. As you say "make it a non event", no point in drama on the roads, it only serves to raise tempers (and probably blood pressure!). I get plenty of people cut me up around my way and change to my lane without being far enough in front of me and giving a safe amount of space when I'm in my car (not merges, just lane changes), but I'm like my dad in that respect - maybe a little shake of the head, maybe a swear under the breath, but no agg or remonstration at the driver. Keep them in front of you where you can make sure you see them, as you've also pointed out some times! CM is putting himself in harm's way.
Standing in the road (with back to oncoming vehicles) trying to direct traffic (without the authority to do so) isn't actually legal... and since CM already has sufficient evidence, what follows is simply to get "content" for his channel. The cars mounting the pavement to get past the obstruction; cyclists also ignoring the keep left, or cycling on pavement, he ignores and since the law changed recently (ignoring the keep left sign there being a council, not police, matter) there seems to be less drama now. While cycling on the wrong side of the road tapping on car windows and getting into arguments seems a bigger distraction than mobile phone use in stationary vehicles (6pts + £150 fine). Again tho' CM should not be engaging with drivers, it's simply to get "content" and so I do mind CM because it's not about road safety at all, it's money and notoriety he seeks. I view him more as a public nuisance.
I do agree it's better to let things go (and that's not always easy), while everybody makes mistakes; some road layouts are frankly bizarre and with variable speed limits; (Home Office approved) 24/7 robot policing (with fines for giving it the "bird"); it looks like "Big Brother" will coin it in and CM footage won't be required, except perhaps as evidence used against him.
Holding up traffic for 20+ minutes at Gandalf corner; that's entirely for CM's benefit and the more anger he can create the better for him. A camera there would put a stop to this.
Have you thought that maybe he only frequents Gandalf's Corner because it is a rich source of content? Pretty sure there are more dangerous areas he could investigate (like stopping distances when approaching the end of a pier).
And that is why so many people get in lane early as per the video.
That was normal behaviour for down here….which is why almost nobody uses all the available lanes.
The taxi clip is perfect for mr Vine 😂
Does having an electric assist bike increase risk, well…for those that ride like Mikey?
I know someone who has one…it’s been “remapped” so it can get away quicker than standard…does upto 30mph with little peddling.
He leaves work same time & direction as myself….im a tad nervous if he’s just ahead of me because his unpredictable nature + electric speed = increased risk to himself and me (or anyone else on the road or crossing it).
If you can't see them they can't see you. Nothing wrong with the taxis driving.
Me neither, sadly the highway code treat cyclist as pedestrian and they can do anything against they own safety and blame other. but if they treat them like drivers, the cyclist will be considered a careless driver. I agree with highway code put pedestrian as most vulnerable and later cyclist. what I did not agree is treat them do not need to know the rules.
I am sure that 10 or 15 years ago, there were yellow signs warning that the left lane was closed ahead.
BUT the signs said (something like) 'Merge at head of queue. One for one' with the graphic of a zip closing.
And I've never seen it since.
A closed lane should work like a zip system.Not one huge single line of traffic
Yes good analogy of staggered formation.
This should happen every time 2 lanes are merging into one. The vehicle with their nose in front has right of way. This is the perfect example of why that is. Mikey knew the taxi was there, because it was in front of him. The taxi didn't know Mikey was there, because he was behind it, in its blind spot.
And if you try to stand your ground like that against a vehicle that most likely doesn't even know you're there, then you shouldn't be on the road at all.
I have to say I love your calm demeanour in the first clip: something I aspire to work towards myself
Wasn’t it only a few months ago it was said “Once you make a mistake like that, that’s the sort of driver you want in front of you not behind”
If the taxi driver made a “mistake” then why was Mikey not listening to his own words and trying to get in front if not a “I am in the right” type punishment pass?
He wanted more footage...screen time is money for Mikey. I wonder if he even has a job now, or does he just wobble round London searching for victims?
@@richardsimpson3792 He is probably a drinking buddy of Jeremy Vine.
The suicidally aggressive cycling is one thing - many, if not most road cyclists are like that - but the class-based slur is what really grinds my gears. Imagine unironically calling a working man an "oik" as he goes about his business, not as a pisstake of posh twerps but because you really are convinced you're better than him. What does that say about you?
That "oik" is a black cab driver; in order to get his taxi licence he will have had to learn and pass "the knowledge". That's not for the faint-hearted.
Never heard the term oik. Although, I don't often hang around snotty-nosed posh folk with annoying voices, so that's probably why. Having wealth is one thing but clearly it's not enough for some of them, they must try convince themselves they're better than people who work for a living.
Im not like that. I mainly use a bicycle these days but also a car driver and motorcyclist. I am very critical of other cyclists though as the standard of their riding is generally poor.
People like Mikey with his camera distracting him for content are just as dangerous as people on mobile phones when their car is stationary.
This right here.
mikey's total lack of even a comment about the two cyclists who ran the red does kind of undermine his claim of being focuse don safety, doesn't it?
The "trick cyclers" bias is evident and obvious, when he was doing his "thang" at Gandalf corner, the bias was palpable, he wouldn't accept wrongdoing by cyclists could also injure and kill pedestrians, he just kept banging on about weights, dimensions , widths of cars, he'd chase down cars ,to admonish them, but not bikes or motorbikes.
Oh, and he used to put his bike and trailer on the pavement, partially blocking it..
Nothing must get in the way of the personal crusade......
I didn't see any of those cyclists endanger anyone else?
@@shm5547really? Red light means stop. Yet bikes refuse to obat he road traffic act. We could seethe bike weaving around, rather than stopping.
@@wibbley1 I would probably have done the same. I sometimes ride on the pavement too. But I don't put anyone at risk, nor did these cyclists.
We don't live in a zero-tolerance society, some things, whilst technically illegal, will no be prosecuted as the police will use their 'discretion'.
@@shm5547 and yet certain cycling youtubers practice a no tolerance policy against other road users.
I remember pointing out CM's utter twattery a couple of years ago and got a right earbashing about it, from loads of his sycophants. I'm glad to be here at the turn of the tide.
Remember seeing Mikey's original clip and making exactly the same remarks as you. I commute via bike and am often faster than cars in traffic, but to claim they 'just get in my way' is a hilariously distorted view to take. Each party accommodates the other, everyone gets to their destinations safely.
I admit that I used to watch, and at times 'like' the videos that Cycling Mikey put together, but as this video shows (and many others before it) he just became a bit too confrontational with his approach - not just with his cycling but how he engages with other people, as with the taxi driver when he feels in the 'right' and did no wrong. As Ashley pointed out, also not challenging other cyclists when they are doing something they shouldn't leads to thoughts of double standards but he also cannot, on numerous occasions, hold his hand up to his own errors. Which is why I only see his videos now on Ashley's channel, much better interpretation of events, what can and should have been done differently to put yourself in position of safety and minimise the risks while cycling - after all, cycling is an activity that should be enjoyed and not one where you put yourself in danger and then shout the odds at someone who did nothing wrong.
I started driving in vehicles quite young, did a lot of cycling and eventually got on motorbikes. The motorbike training and experience has really helped me develop and improve my road awareness and safety, that extends to all vehicles I use. I really like Ashleys cool calm approach and mindset, its what we need more of on our roads.
I did call him out on this Ash, ridiculous risk taking, bloody obvious he’s running out of options here!
Erm that was sheer madness! Not sure what overcome Mikey there. I agree, some clips are very borderline
Cycling Mikey is a first class tool
Good vid Ashley. I commented on this vid and thought he just placed himself in greater danger and conflict with the taxi than was necessary and all he needed to do was just hold back till they were (both) clear of the obstruction. simples!
It might be best to not call cycling mikey an idiot if you are making an objective point. It will only provoke a negative response from him or his followers. I do enjoy watching your videos and try to drive to the standards you demonstrate so keep up the good work. 👍
"Rules for thee but not for me, because I own the road."
I saw this with Mikey when he posted it.
I did think similar to you about his riding and how he tried to blow it up to make a video.
And when he said he sent it to the police, I thought he was disgusting.
And I really REALLY can't understand how cyclists get away with what they do?
And especially the food delivery people how they go through red lights, up streets the wrong way and no lights at night.
I'm sure this is under the SAFETY AT WORK RULES and the companies employing them should be prosecuted and fined for turning a blind eye.
Spot on 👍
Perfect
It's argued they're not employees but *independent contractors*.
Little known fact - the name on the account does not have to be the same as the person carrying out deliveries. They are allowed to have any random person fill in for them on shift as long as the deliveries are fulfilled - no background check, no accountability, no immigration status
Cyclists get away with it as they don`t have Reg plates. That`s why there was such an outcry when having Reg plates on cycles was suggested.
@@brutusbastados4801, reg plates are nothing to do with it, otherwise you wouldn't have drivers breaking the rules continually either. Opposition to reg plates is because it would amount to a degradation of our rights.
It's good what you're doing here Ash, making people aware of what cyclists can and should do whilst also highlighting the unfortunate trend of cyclists uploading their own mistakes but under the guise that everyone else is at fault.
CyclingMikey and Jeremy Vine spring to mind.
These people ride around, sometimes as if they are a pedestrian at a zoo, just criss crossing around, running red lights, no form or discipline in what they are doing but shout at cars for no reason at all.
I'm generally a bit uncomfortable when people criticise cycling campaigners - when our roads are mostly terrible for bike safety and driving standards seem to be at an all-time low, it seems counterproductive to criticise the few people who spend time documenting how dangerous our roads can be for those on two wheels - however, I completely agree with you in this instance Ashley.
Like Jeremy Vine, Mikey has a habit of putting himself in a compromised position deliberately and then playing the victim - and manufactured clips like this do more damage than good to the cause of cycling safety in the UK. They wind drivers up and make them see other people on two wheels as nuisances, which in a week when a five year old lad was killed on his bike in Preston, is the last thing cyclists need. They give us all a bad name!
I completely agree. Mikey is an affable fellow who performs a public service in highlighting and reporting the scourge of phone drivers, but gets a bit carried away sometimes, and that is counterproductive.
Good mindset. I agree. we must have more empathy. I noticed drivers slow down a lot and far away when see someone riding a horse. I think we must have more empathy with other road users. not only with horses. cyclist, lorries drivers etc. understand them and be in their shoes.
@@PedroConejo1939 seems like a bell end who goes out of his way to provoke people while saying it's for cycling safety and hiding behind a camera
@@dubreg6711 I think that's rather harsh. I fully support his anti-phone campaign, and the fewer dodgy motorists we have on the road, the better. Where I take issue is with engaging with people instead of riding off, and his hazard perception skills are not sufficiently tuned to avoid potentially risky situations. Neither of those are deal-breakers for me, and you can see exactly the same from the drivers who submit dashcam footage to other channels. I'd love to see an episode with Ashley Neal and Cycling Mikey together, but I believe that CM turned down the offer. I will repeat that to me, CM seems like an affable chap.
@@PedroConejo1939 I don't condone people on the phone but his attitude towards drivers is pretty diabolical as he clearly goes out of his way to get some form of interaction so he can monetize it in TH-cam l As a motorcycle rider his actions tend to be pretty dangerous for me, hanging outside the filtering line and peering into windows causes me to either stop and rev the shit out of my bike till I force them to move which I have zero problems doing or I have to go way beyond the filtering line that is normally common causing a safety concern for me
.you can't have it all your own way the roads are for sharing and he causes nothing but animosity amongst the various road users. But as you say he seems amicable till he gets me hit by another road user so he can make a few pennies
Rather have them in front than behind has been my mantra for 20 years. Totally agree with let them go be the better person...also a personal favourite
I agree with you Ashley - Mikey not calling out cyclists very often as a "road safety activist" where stationary vehicles is a bigger safety risk than cyclists running crossings!
Why doesn't he stand by crossings in London calling out other cyclists?!? He'd get more clicks
As for his riding in this - it's stupid and lacks forward planning and in fact shows he actively attempts to block the taxi merge back to the RH lane which is against the HC general guidance
I agre he doesn't do too well in this clip. If it were me, I would have just let the taxi go ahead and slotted in behind him, and if the taxi does turn left, it makes no difference. But having said that, it is up to the taxi to check there isn't anyone occupying the space he's going in to.
You obviously can't report cyclists, so what would be the point of calling them out? In any case, someone being inattentive in charge of a tonne of moving metal (even if temporarily stopped) is definitely more dangerous than a cyclist going (fairly slowly) through a red light. Again, I wouldn't do this myself, I always stop for red lights as a cyclist, but in terms of danger there is no comparison. It's just whataboutery to say so. Both types of riding/driving are illegal and wrong, but one is almost infinitely more dangerous. I think that Mikey uses his limited road safety activism time to focus on the the things he believes are most important. He isn't obligated to police everything (or indeed anything), he can do what he chooses. Anyone who thinks cyclists are a problem is entirely free to stand on street corners and call them out for clicks, but I don't see any reason why Mikey should feel obliged to.
@@eddyrichards8474 "a tonne of moving meta" It's usually a tonne of stationary metal when Mikey if filming them. Whataboutism? I call it practice-what-you-preachism.
@@simonharris4873 Well they tend to be moving shortly afterwards if not at the time, and if you watch his clips, he often shows the research demonstrating that concentrating on a phone slows your reaction times as badly or worse than drink driving etc. Not to mention the ones who don't actually look up and start moving forwards with eyes still glued to the screen.
@@eddyrichards8474 Moving while still concentrating on the phone... that's exactly what Mikey is doing. But he's usually moving onto the other side of the road, into the path of any oncoming traffic, all while paying as much attention to the phone as the driver is.
BTW, the drink driving comparison isn't entirely accurate. That's only valid for people who are actually operating a vehicle while using their phone. That's not what we're discussing here.
@@simonharris4873No, you are wrong, the distraction causes slowed reaction even once the driver has put the phone down. And many of these drivers continue to use their phone even once they've started moving again. It's just they are obviously easy to catch when stationary. Mikey doesn't usually go into the opposite carriageway, in fact he often doesn't go when I would, rather negating your theory that he is only after clicks (because if he were, he wouldn't wait for cards to pass the other way, as he often does).
Brilliant Ashley. This was exactly how I saw Mikeys video when I watched it too. Excellent use of your own experience to highlight the direct comparison.
As a tax paying pedestrian who drives and cycles (with insurance) I completely agreed with your accurate and amusing analysis.
I think your assessment of the taxi driver is flawed. The taxi driver clearly did not submit until after the pinch point. Yes, Mikey should have held back behind the taxi, but it should have been clear to the taxi driver that Mikey was not holding back. You stated that the taxi driver was aware of Mikey’s position - so I would have expected you to criticise the taxi driver for failing to ‘make it a non-event’, as you say.
An additional observation regarding the cyclist in the first clip. At around 1:44, they ran the risk of being "doored" by the parked police car, passing within such close proximity to it. Just because a car has the word "Police" written on it is not a guarantee that a door won't open unexpectedly!
The basic police test is just so they can use the car as a runabout rather than doing it on foot, higher level than the standard driving test but below the advanced test.
Reminded of the film Hot Fuzz :)
So you're putting the onus of reaponsibility on to the vulnerable party to do something rather than the person who can do the harm?
Wh are you attacking the cyclist when we all know motorists are on the horn and screaming at cyclists for being in the middle of the road. Now here you are attacking them for not riding wide enough because another motorist could harm them by not bothering to look properly. ffs!
The highway code puts the onus on all road users to look out for their own safety. Your desire to perpetually be the victim won;t help you in the slightest when you cycle straight into the open door because you passed to close to the stationary vehicle.@@ynotnilknarf39
@@ynotnilknarf39 I ride a motorbike, I avoid the door zone, yes it is an offence to open a door to endanger someone, but being right and taking some steps to avoid the situation altogether just makes sense.
When I'm cycling I always remember this verse from the late, great Spike Milligan.
Here lies the body of Christopher Grey,
He died maintaining his right of way,
He was right, dead right, as he sped along,
But he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong.
Drive or cycle defensively, always.
I'm still conflicted about whether Micky's channel is a good thing (probably does reduce phone use on the roads), but either way he doesn't always seem very modest and if he's gonna cycle like this he's got some learning to do
Curate's egg. Good in places.
I think mikey, vine and all the Twitter culture wars put pressure on government to build better infrastructure.
Having two angry groups of ppl isn’t good for politics. (Unless you’re a populist politician, then culture wars are great 😂).
keep doing what you do Ash, love the message you're spreading. Thank you
I am a fan of Mikey's stuff around drivers using their phones, and his stuff on Gandalf corner. But you absolutely right on this. Good analysis!
To me what he does around phone drivers I don't like he is not the police and one day he will say it to the wrong driver that may up doing some kind of harm happen to him.
@@metromadness2016 They are pretty poor reasons.
The police work by crimes being reported to them. Let's give an extreme example of someone being stabbed. No police officers saw the stabbing. So by your logic, anyone who witnessed the criminal behaviour shouldn't report it, because they're not the police. Not really how society works.
Secondly, we shouldn't be afraid to report crimes for fear of violent backlash. If someone physically hurts you because you are going to report a crime they committed, that is also a crime and should be reported.
@@metromadness2016 Do I detect some hope in that prediction?
@@jmeadowbrooks Stabbing...? Interesting. Now use a more appropriate example. A victimless crime which has now chance of causing injury to anyone. Because that's what Mikey reports to the police. Most of his reports to the police are stationary vehicles. Stationary vehicles pose much less of a risk than those like Mikey who ride dangerously in order to film them.
@@simonharris4873 Except that being in control of a stationary car and using your mobile phone is still dangerous, therefore not a victimless crime.
I said that I didn't agree with Mikey's riding in the original post. I don't get the point of what you're arguing about.
Thanks Ashley. Another example of how to stay safe on the road no matter if you’re on 2 or 4 wheels.
Cyclingmikey is a hypocrite because he NEVER calls out illegal moves by cyclists and he’s a danger on the roads, I’ve been saying this for years, thank you for calling him out Ashley.
The police can't track down cyclists as no licence plate. At gandalf corner, his excuse for not stopping them is he doesnt want them to fall over and get hurt if he stops them.
@@DemiGod.. That is just an excuse for not concentrating on the road because he is too busy learing into people's windows, and not focussing on the road ahead of him. What a pathetic excuse for not stopping at red traffic lights, and what sorry existence it must be to be Cyclingmikey. If Kahn wants everyone on bicycles in London, then we need them to be licenced, have speedometers of some kind, or a tracker that tracks their speed, and have insurance, so when they knock over and kill innocent elderly people walking in a park, they can be held FULLY accountable and not get away scot free.
I don't quite agree with all the things you said but you can tell from the camera wobbling even through the stabilisation at 4 minutes it seems he's putting in some welly to accelerate and close the space!
I disagree re your comments re phone drivers and cyclists running red. Phone driving is more dangerous than many realise, and he has bo way of reporting cyclists who run reds. He also regularly calls out cyclists in the videos, but maybe didnt here.
Having said that, i totally agree with the rest. When you go lookong for trouble you'll inevitably find it, whereas of you take your attitude towards road use what could have been trouble become non events. The arguing from CM always does strike me as a need to be right and be the hero/victim. If reporting to police is the deterrant then report to the police. Arguing and giving out on the road does nothing but stroke egos.
the difference in potential damage done by someone riding a bike running a red and a distracted phone driver causing an incident is pretty huge. It is way more dangerous than people realise... five people die on Britain's roads every day.
but yeah people will always make mistakes... and both Ashley and Mikey are getting views from their content
As a cyclist, taking a car lane is one thing, but you are generally going to be the slower vehicle, so just like other slow vehicles, staying in the inner lane should be preferred. But in a few cyclist-unfriendly intersections, taking a different lane might be warranted. In this case taking the outer lane might actually be a good idea, as it forces a certain kind of driver, who can't fathom zip-lock merging with a bicycle, to stay behind. But that idea falls completely apart when you then proceed to fail zip-lock merging yourself.
I totally agree. Looks like he is just looking for content now.
If he rides his bike with safety and proper awareness, he'll have nothing to upload!! What else is he going to do with his spare time then?!?!? Do you want him to be bored? Lol
this is the biggest issue on the road people need to learn to share the space use bike paths when they are there its this kind of situation that is making an allmost car vs cylclist situation then the cyclist cause pedestrians issues uas well the UK transport situation needs to be one for all
This is going to be a fun one on -Twitter- X this weekend with a select group calling out a few phrases, most likely anti cyclists or victim blaming.
The taxi could’ve perhaps showed more intent earlier on when traffic started moving again but any road user who wants to remain safe knows you don’t walk / ride / drive into a narrowing or restriction alongside another road user, that is purely asking for trouble. Yes, the taxi driver perhaps shouldn’t have gone as much as they did but they were slowing and it appeared Mikey was slowing with. Trying to keep safe or making it closer? Not sure on that one
Would Mikey have done the same had the taxi remained in lane 2 and cycled up the nearside to force in front? Maybe 🤷🏻♂️
We all have a responsibility out there and being aware of everyone around you is important just as much as knowing what space others are going into. What is that phrase again….
Don’t arrive at the same place at the same time. Being a space closer is the opposite, you are making sure you arrive at the same place at the same time. This is true for all road users, not just drivers
Finally a sensible comment. I feel like Ashley's analysis here is somewhat clouded by prior beef and is not all that objective.
@@Bigbossperson I will always give an opinion from both sides as I like to look into how everything on the roads can be improved. I am always looking at my own driving to see how it can improve and get better. If I was still able to ride a bike I would do the same for that as well. The only way things can improve for the better is if everyone improves
The analysis will come from a cycling perspective as this is on the cycling channel. The same as a driver exhibiting similar driving styles of blocking a merge or MGIF will be called out on the main driving channel
This can appear as bias sometimes and I can see why some would see it that way but I don't, I see it as education to help cyclists stay safe out there and to look after themselves more.
I am aware there has been issues in the past with Mikey and Ashley but I do believe that Ashley will say things in hope that it will help Mikey, and other cyclists in their future rides to avoid dangerous situations regardless of who is right or who is wrong
@@smilerbob exactly
Theyre quite different situations. Try reading rule 133 of the highway code. "If you need to change lane, first use your mirrors and if necessary take a quick sideways glance to make sure you will not force another road user to change course or speed. When it is safe to do so, signal to indicate your intentions to other road users and when clear, move over."
Mikey has an attitude problem. All ways eager to make a none issue into an issue
Mikey is the complete opposite of making things a non event. I would find it very stressful to ride or drive in that confrontational and aggressive manner.
I used to watch their channel but it went just like some other dashcam channels where they are out for content. I’m sure they could still get content without acting in this way.
Cyclists should cycle like they are driving a car: follow all the rules of the road; give priority rather than take it; etc. Hostility either way isn't achieving anything!
People are terrible on the roads (regardless of bike or car), we all just need to take a step back and relax a little. And you Ashley, are doing a great job teaching that: my driving and cycling has improved so much with your videos. 'Make a situation a non-situation' is the best advice for avoiding incidents and harm.
That’s a terrible idea, a bike isn’t a car, why are we pretending they’re the same?
@@New-ye2fl What in what I'm saying are you actually taking issue with?
@@ao-b2774 cyclists should cycle like they’re driving a car, no they shouldn’t, they aren’t the same, not even close.
@@New-ye2fl What should they be doing different. Again: what exactly are you actually taking issue with?
You seem to be wilfully taking a simplistic perspective. Maybe you have misunderstood, maybe there is nuance I thought was obvious but isn't: I cannot tell, because you're just repeating shallow (obvious) statement without detail.
Yes, a bike is not the same as a car. Well done. I didn't say there were. I was saying you don't get special rules if you drive or if you cycle.
@@ao-b2774 Aw thanks for that riveting walkthrough, please tell us more. I think that’s exactly what we need, as we’ve already established, these aren’t the same, so why have the same laws/rules?
It’s like Jeremy vine, clip he put up other day about 2 cars arguing over him when at the end, it just stops abruptly as he hits the line where the lights on red but he shows no signs of stopping
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Bang on, Ashley, with mentioning that Cycling Mikey doesn't berate those other cyclists... the HWC rules applies to everyone, Mikey! 😂
In all fairness, I have seen Mikey berate cyclists who run red light a lot. He will often make a donkey noise at them 😂
@@stationcolossus Oh ok, I don't watch many of his videos. Does he report them to the police, like he does with drivers?!
Absolutely agree I've seen Cycling Mikey clips where he fails to criticize other cyclists jumping red lights etc.
He's explained it often - he would if he could, but there isn't a way of doing this. He focuses on where he can do the most which is cars, and to be fair they pose the most danger on roads statistically. @@johndd9140
@@johndd9140 They can't be prosecuted, they don't have to ID themselves like a car (or insure/tax/pass test or any other responsibility)
Yeah, good video Ashley. I’m a cyclist and driver like many others. Mikey’s turning into Jeremy Vine.
The thing I've found with a lot of these 'bike vs car' incidents is that the drivers are the ultimate idiots, but sometimes the cyclist makes it slightly worse.
The point I'm making is that cyclists get so much hate when in reality the drivers do a lot worse.
I'm not in any way defending cyclingmikey - he's a bit of an idiot on his bike. I'm just saying that people overlook the 95% of cyclists who obey the law and are sensible, instead pointing the finger at the 5% who do something wrong.
But this attitude won't change - it doesn't matter how many studies show that bikes break the law much less than cars, people will still blame the bikes for the issues cars cause. People will always hate on bikes just because they don't understand basic concepts like level of risk to bikes and induced demand.
My main point is that bikes shouldn't have to share the road with cars. They also shouldn't be subject to all the same rules as cars, instead they should be protected by both laws and good bike infrastructure.
UK law basically treats bikes and cars as the same thing, but they're not.
*We need better bike infrastructure, or at least lower speed limits (20mph = 30km/h)*
And yes, to please all of you ignorant drivers, Mikey cycles like an idiot.
But that doesn't mean all bikes are bad - I've only seen two idiotic cyclists in real life throughout my entire life.
And surely you'd rather get someone this bad at cycling out of the road and onto protected cycle paths?! For themselves and for others!
He is a self rightious tool being polite about it. Most cycling and dash cam clips capture the cammers own bad driving habits
Cycling mikey is increasingly becoming the “did you spill my pint” guy. He’s a muppet.
Very informative video, Although I know what Cycling Mikey is trying to do, but, I think he causes more issues than he realises. I wonder how long the traffic queue gets behind him when he stands in front of a car at Gandalf corner?
The guy is a menace...
I agree with Ashley Neal and also Mikey. It is all great entertainment in the end. Thank you.
Imagine threatening someone's means of making a living for views. What a plonker.
I've thought Mikey's overly assertive cycling style seems likely to end badly quite often, but I do respect him for what he's trying to do.
We need to take into account that there is a huge difference between the consequences of a car getting hit by a bicycle versus the other way round.
I lost the whole front end of my VW LT van after a lorry driver was on the phone trying to find his way lost in North London, I literally avoided death or serious injury by inches, if a cyclist had hit me I doubt he'd have even left a dent.
( BTW. The artic driver admitted fault immediately and I got a brand new van within 2 weeks. He was actually a really nice guy, just not used to London and really shouldn't have been using his phone as a satnav.
Driving a van in London every day of the week you quickly learn how to let go of frustration at the w...krs, or you get ill!
You respect him for what he's trying to do? I suppose I do also, and if he keeps doing it, with any luck he won't have legs to cycle anymore.
MC was wrong no question
Very frustrating, I support Mikey's advocacy for better road safety, the fact Gandalf Corner is a thing is absolutely nuts as I'd never dream of skipping round a traffic island to beat traffic, but here he's absolutely let himself down. I'm torn about the whole 'riding with camera' thing now as I DO NOT want to be associated with this behaviour, that is NOT why I wear a camera. I don't want content, a good ride for me is when I can clear the camera afterwards, and that's 99.9% of my rides.