The Rise & Fall of Lego Star Wars
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In this video essay, I, MewZe, discuss the Rise and Fall of the Lego Star Wars videogames. I discuss the complete saga, the clone wars, the force awakens and the skywalker saga to find out whether the older games really were better, or if it's all just nostalgia.
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I'm not gonna lie, I have way more nostalgia for Clone Wars than complete saga, and the levels you specifically called out as not liking were one of my favourite parts
Same dude.
Fair enough!! I think it just wasn't my sorta thing
Same i referred lego tcw over the skywalker saga by a longshot
Same man I loved those RTS levels, it made young me feel like a battlefield mastermind
I love the clone wars and it adds a lot of stuff that was not continued in the next games such as the verses battles against you and player 2 it was so fun
Gotta love how both Ep.8 and 9 were so unpopular they didn't even get the Lego Game treatment like Ep.7
There’s no goofiness in the new ones the expressions without words helps
Even with the "Mumble Mode" in TSS, it's not the same. The way they told you the story with no words allowed you to add your own voices as if you were playing with actual Lego or simply enjoy the exaggerated gestures and noises.
I mean there is goofiness still the jokes are just different now
its not just nostalgia, its the lack of puzzles, in modern SW games...
You mean breaking shit up and till you repurpose it to build something? Nah thats still there bro
Honestly Skywalker Saga is the only Lego game I don't like. They simplified all the abilities so essentially there were only like 7 characters from a gameplay perspective. I thought Lego Force Awakens was fun because they had multiple neat abilities for each main character that made each one play differently. Not to mention Skywalker Saga removed character customization, something that's been a part of the series since the 2nd game (even more insulting after how amazing DC Supervillains' character customization was).
Yeah, same. I've only played A New Hope and after trying only 2 levels from Force Awakens, I just ended up uninstalling the game because it didn't quite hit me with that (LEGO) Star Wars greatness like the Complete Saga did. It was when I started to get back into SW after trying Fallen Order for the first time 4 months ago.
And you're right, the removal of character customization is a red flag as well.
Ayo
Don’t forget the glitches even a year after release and not really being able to replay everything like the opening of phantom menace, not having the battle over Coruscant at all in revenge of the sith, but the character customization is defo the worst thing about it especially after the build up of previous Lego games like you said
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Lego Games started getting worse, once they put in the open World.
With the open world they put 80h of mindless golden brick collecting into the game, whilst making the levels shorter and shorter to keep increasing the size of the open world.
My BIGGEST complain about Lego SW: TSS is that the level aren't half as big as the originals.
They literally reduced the amount of minicits/level to 5 instead of 10.
The open world is great to have, but not if it makes the part everyone came for aka the levels worse.
i disagree on the minikits, a lot of the minikits in the original games were pretty sloppy. sometimes they would be frustating without red bricks, sometimes they would be just "blow up one silver door which you pass trough during the level". i had fun collecting almost all minikits in TSS by comparison, each one felt way more interesting
On my opinion that lego games were starting to go downhill after the released of the lego movie 2 videogame, I did enjoy lego 2K drive. Even though it wasn't made by TT games
the reason the older lego games (not just lego starwars) are just better is cuz they were short but fun instead of boring long and mostly just the same gameplay the new ones have
Lego Star Wars The Complete Saga is prolly the second longest Lego game (possibly smaller than Skywalker saga). If we compare it to one of the newer games like Lego DC Supervillains, supervillains has 15 levels and 5 bonus mini levels. Complete Saga has 36 main levels, 6 bonus levels and 20 bounty hunter missions. Saying it was better cause it was shorter doesn't make much sense.
Maybe saying less bloated is better :)
@@WoofleTheWolf how can someone be this wrong (factual wise) and be so confident????
I should have probably explained better what I meant but eh who cares
The levels are shorter, not the game
I remember playing the newest game and waiting for the actual gameplay to start. I quit around halfway through the second film and never picked it up afterwards
Being a Star Wars fan these days is really tough. Good thing I'm not one of them
@@SUPERLEAF026 Same bro
Elder Scrolls is better
@@paranymous9832 you can't compare star wars to elder scrolls bro what
Yes.
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Perhaps my favourite thing about The Complete Saga was how every character felt unique even when they did the same things because of how much personality was placed in the animations of every character. Obi-Wan Kenobi, Qui Gon Jinn, Darth Maul, Anakin Skywalker, Mace Windu, Yoda, Count Dooku, General Grievous, Ben Kenobi, Luke Skywalker, Darth Vader and The Emperor all basically just hit people with lightsabers but they had completely different animations (most of which are based directly on moments from the films) which affected the weight and speed of their attacks. By comparison basically every lightsaber wielder in The Skywalker Saga feels the exact same to play, they don't all have the same animations but the differences are incredibly marginal compared to The Complete Saga. Even if you look at someone like Yoda he's just not holding a candle to the LEGO version and feels nothing like how he did in the films by comparison.
Are the animations all different and unique? I mean they reused a lot of death sounds in TCS, even Vader has a generic death sound. And their weight and speed mosttly felt the same, I mean maybe there is a difference? But I think then the same could be said for TSS because I know how characters like Maul were clearly more faster then others. I don't see how the differences are really more marginal...I mean did Dooku and Palpatine rreally feel that different from each other? Eh....Yoda feels different but he still feels like Yoda really, Yoda can be quick when he wants to you know.
@@Jdudec367 All the animations I listed are unique. Sidious and Dooku fight extremely differently. Palps is the only character without a super combo animation meanwhile Dooku arguably has the best super combo animations in the game which includes him doing the wrist flick from ROTS.
In regards to Skywalker Saga, isn’t the game like the least Lego of the bunch? Like it honestly looks like your average third person game with a Lego skin slapped on to it.
Also, I may know why it sold less: It may have something to do with those 3 movies that literally no one wants to acknowledge
@@JojokimVT that’s all subjective tbh
The game is so empty in so many parts as well
I personally enjoyed my time with the Skywalker saga. It felt fresh, new, but still retained the Lego joy from years back. It wasn't perfect and did go on way too long. It also could've done without the open world aspect. But overall it's a solid game I'd give it a 6/10.
The lego games really felt less and less “Lego” like as they went on. In the earlier games characters got disassembled and building was important, but I feel if you removed the lego branding from Skywalker Saga you wouldn’t really change anything.
I totally agree with you about The Skywalker Saga. It's not a bad game but it doesn't fell like a Lego Game, more like a simplified RPG with replayable events.
I miss the times when games were simple and nobody cared about graphics, I wish we still had good LEGO games or any good games in general nowadays
I feel like we all got stuck in at least One section in a Star Wars Lego game
I spent an entire week trying to beat the pod race
As a completionist, I absolutely loved TSS, 100% took about 60-70 hours without a guide iirc. Afterwards I spent about 20 hours modding in custom characters and posting them to nexus
My whole thing with Lego games is they're at their best if it can be accurately described as "dumb fun." I don't know if this is a hot take or not, but personally, the more complex a Lego game is, the less I enjoy it. Now sure, Clone Wars and Force Awakens are still dumb and fun even with some extra mechanical depth and level variety, but Skywalker Saga? With it's needlessly enormous open world? And a fcking combo tree? In a _Lego game?_ Just... nah. I still like Skywalker Saga and love Clone Wars, but Complete Saga will _always_ be my first choice because it's just how a Lego game should be, simple.
@@jonolivier9126 i feel like after all the characters started talking is when Lego games started falling off. As a kid it was fun interpreting and making up your own dialogue, not to mention anyone could easily understand the cutscenes bc there wasn’t any language barrier
@@noahmezan2073 I think talking was fine in Lego Batman 2 as the story was completely unique to the game but afterward it just sucked. A lot of the humor in the original games came from how they had to simplify the plot to be told voiceless and quickly. Later games were just basically reciting lines from their respective movies with worse, bored actors.
@@alexanderackerman3807 true. If Lego Batman 2 was the only game that had voice actors then maybe the games afterwards would’ve been better
I'm glad I'm not the only person who thinks the skywalker saga isn't as good as people say
Honestly you’ve cooked with this one MewZe. This is my fav video yet so hats off to you
Thank you so much!!
@@MewZe genuinely I love these videos and I know sometimes they might not get as many views as you’d expect but they are honestly so awesome
I genuinely love your style of content. A video essay about the game but also gameplay and commentary alongside it. Keep it up man
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'my sporting uniform shrunk in the wash, now it's a minikit'
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To be honest, old Lego games have more charm to them. Now, it's more of an open world with lots of missions to do after completing story mode.
Gonna be honest I really liked the skywalker saga, probably not as much at the complete saga but it was still very enjoyable for me, I 100%ted it a while ago and it took me around 100 hours, I don’t really get the claim that’s the gameplay felt repetitive (except for those attack the ship in space parts yea those were lame), I think each world introduced some fun challenges and unique scenario, and it really felt like a Lego game with the movement and variety of characters, and exploring all of these iconic worlds (yes even the new trilogy ones) was really fun.
some follow this character missions were lame and again the space battle bits, but overall I had a great time, complete saga is probably better but I’m not going to let nostalgia get the better of me and say skywalker saga is a pretty good game too
Lego Star Wars The Sky Walker Saga is the most bloated game I’ve ever 100% completed.
It’s not worth it. Don’t do it you’ll go insane.
I didn't even get 1 hub done, it might have been lego game burn out or maybe the game is just pants.
You saying where's Lok Durd despite the fact you don't know the lad really makes me laugh outta my boots
damn this video was so dope- i hate seeing the drop in views for you... i definitely think i prefer the gameplay+commentary approach over your old uber-edited documentary type videos so keep it up man
Lego star wars 3 so clone wars was the first ever game i played when i was like 5 or 6
It is still pretty gud
3:45 actually that impression blew my ears away, thanks for asking 👍
some of my favorite games ever are lego games but playing through the skywalker saga i just felt so bored i expected so much more
i had a weird obsession with getting the droid things to shoot eachother back then
I loved Lego Star Wars as a kid, sad to see the state it’s in today
Lok Durd my beloved
As someone that loved the Complete Saga and didn’t like the Skywalker Saga, this video puts all my thoughts and feelings into one hilarious package. Great video!
i remember i got lego star wars 2 for christmas and my friend had lego star wars 1 and i was just so jealous of some of the characters he could play with (i grew up with the prequels)
someone who not only played the complete saga, but played it on the Wii of all platforms.. if only you had pirated it on a cracked Wii, then I could properly relate....
Though tbh, I never really viewed the game completely through rose tinted shades, at the time when I replayed the game tens of times, I had problems with it too. beyond just being an illiterate worm with english as my 2nd language, reading "continue" as "john-tin-nyooeh", I didn't really like how every bossfight was just double jumping and pressing attack, the main hub made me feel like a rat in a cage (amplified in the indiana jones' hub) and the camera was always sub-par... But the existance of the hot tub stormtroopers undid all of that so whatever.
3 WAS A BANGER THO, THROUGH AND THROUGH
I found the new Skywalker Saga missing a lot of the comedic charm TCS had, plus I lost the ability to force lightning my friends outside of stupid combos.
I found this video through the "hawk to a skibbydee" tweet
i hate the skywalker sagas jetpacks its like 3 seconds of flying and back on the ground
I just recently bought the complete sage acter 10 years of not playing, and man its great
The sidequests in the Skywalker Saga are just the same 5 just recycled over and over again
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They could never make me hate you Skywalker saga
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As someone who finally 100%’d LSW: The Clone Wars after a couple days of nothing else to do, I still love this game to bits, but I can understand why certain parts would be boring or tedious, especially if you do 100%. For example:
The RTS levels? They’re my favorite level type even as a kid, even though they’re all the same with minor elements changed based on the context of the level, but boy did the game test my unwavering opinion of them. Let’s dive into why.
So, later in the game you unlock Ground Assault missions for the Separatists and the Republic. There’s one for each planet in the game on both sides, so already there’s about 12 missions for *each* side. These are timed missions with a mix of objectives: Escape Pod (conquer enough bases and build the escape pod to win), Destroy Command Post (locate the command post and either take out the ray shields protecting it or the bubble shield), Destroy All Buildings (self explanatory), and Destroy Three Statues. Now, I did all of these with the red brick Super Speeders enabled, as it allows the speeder to destroy silver and gold objects, but it’s not flawless as it can’t break gold shield generators fast enough before the enemy turns them back on, so don’t try it. Either way, SS makes most of them trivial. Back to the mission types:
-Escape Pod is the easiest, just take over 9 bases until you unlock it and build it. Separatists have the majority of these.
-Destroy Command Post is tedious mainly because it has insane health regeneration and you ‘aren’t allowed’ to destroy it by hand, as it never budges past 80% when whacking it, so you’re forced to use a vehicle. Luckily most of these missions have normal shield generators protecting the post, even if it has silver/gold ray shields pointed at it, so I always just dismount and head in to break it manually. Turning them off is pointless, the AI turns them back on too fast. A good 3/4s of the Separatists’ missions are this one.
-Destroy All Buildings is also pretty easy, but again just don’t bother turning off shield generators unless they’re silver or gold. Most of the Republic’s missions are this one.
-Lastly, Destroy Three Statues is the worst one. It’s basically the command post but multiplied, and the statues are normal, silver, and gold respectively on top of ray shields protecting them, and sometimes bubble shields protecting the ray shields on top of that. At least these ones are pretty sparse, but Republic has a couple of them.
Why all this dissecting and ranting? Because if you want two of the characters for 100%, Palpatine and Tarkin, you have to have every planet on the map converted to the Republic or the Separatists respectively. But some Separatist missions are only unlocked after you do the Republic mission since the Separatists already own those planets, so some of them require you doing it *three times* depending on which faction you’re trying to paint on the map. I’m so glad I did Ground Assaults first cause if they were last I wouldn’t have the energy to finish the game-
Oh, and the space levels were my least favorite level type since going around different heights of the level is kinda awkward and if you do something too early you could lock yourself out of a minikit and have to restart. Yay.
The editing is really gut
I *really* loved the complete saga as kid. As in I had over 2,000 hours on one of several of my save files and still never 100 percented the game.
Nostalgia…I loved the complete saga but I liked Lego Star Wars lll the clone wars more and I really enjoyed the newest one I think there is not a bad Lego Star Wars game
Did anybody noticed the noise that's c3po made when he was crushed? 😂
I will fight till the ends of the earth to protect the name of lego games. Especially all lego star wars games
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I used to have this game when I was a kid, my parents threw it out because I wouldn't stop playing it
Good times, good times
Your parents suck dude
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This is actually a pretty good take. The simplicity of the puzzles and downgrading of the freeplay areas made the Skywalker saga worse not better than the complete saga. In the complete saga, freeplay was actually interesting, but in the skywalker, it is way too easy to find the minikits and secret areas are not existent. Plus what is the three achievements mode thing about anyway?
A hawk to a skibbydee
Great vid man HAHHAH "they vapin in here"
the three things that make Skywalker Saga not as good as the complete saga is skill trees, health bars, and an over-reliance on voice acting. there's less slapstick because now they can just say stuff instead of miming or using props.
Agreed. Got the Skywalker Saga for pretty cheap recently, but the constant stream of long, rambling cutscenes that weren't very funny was pretty offputting. Redownloaded the Complete Saga and had a much better time.
@@VHuntrD So enable mumble mod. It's literally right there.
@@matthewmoore5254 I honestly hate how people use this excuse to deflect from that criticism. No, the mumble mode is not a true 'return' to the mumbles, since it only replaces voices with mumbles. That's it. It doesn't change the cutscenes, it doesn't get rid of the snail-paced walking sections between levels, which means you get to hear characters mumble for a few minutes rather than speak and that's about it, so the fundamental issue with that excuse is that the game's comedy is different from the original through it primarily including lines from memes/misinterpreting quotes from the films and thus the game does not make an effort to make cutscenes fit to the classical mumbling style.
Don't get me wrong, I get why that's the case and accept the rationale behind it (you need to progress game-making process someway) and don't fault TTGames for going down this route, but I wish people stopped being so defensive about TSS just because it tries to play off of nostalgia to the original Lego Star Wars games.
@@patrykpytka5071 I accept what you are saying here. I really enjoy what TT did here myself (I don't actually use mumble mode, I just enjoy the game for what it is). I do still love the originals, don't get me wrong. I also think they did justice to the originals in a lot of ways, as far as progress in the game mechanics and gameplay. I do agree that the game can be a bit lengthy however.
Lego batman 1 is imo a game WITHOUT FLAW its truly the best lego game of all time... interesting and various level design including a different boss every level its i could go on for hours
I do not want my hand held, I want to fight people in the hubs, and I sure want a custom character creator
Bro knew about hawk tuah and skibidy before everyone else
I know the whole Star Wars plot from the Lego games, that's how good this game is.
The only thing I complain for lego Star Wars the skywalker saga is the challenges but the minikits from 10 to 5 was an amazing change I love it and for the gold bricks from 10 to 6 was an excellent change in my opinion the only thing I would complain is why lego Star Wars the skywalker saga has level challenges that players have to challenge for points and i don’t get it at all. But still an amazing lego video game 🎮 which is amazing but for the level challenges in my opinion says. And every time when I have to deal with challenges in the hub world or even in the level is just nonsense I don’t understand it at all.
19:28 that got a good laugh out of me
Came out of this hoping to find out if I should buy the new game or not, I'm still not sure
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I feel like Lego Skywalker Saga would've done a lot better if it was just a straight up remake of the original Complete Saga (with some obvious graphical and character design updates and bug and level design fixes) with the additional levels for episodes 7, 8, and 9.
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I think open world gameplay is a huge factor in what's killing the LEGO games.
By having a central hub world and set levels, it made the gameplay tighter and everything you can interact with closer. Whereas in The Skywalker Saga there's so much trekking and flying to get to locations with very little to interact with and it can become a little boring.
LEGO Racers 2 had the exact same problem. They chose to prioritise the open world aspect and that's why it's dull in comparison to the first one.
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Bro this made me laugh so hard
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I don’t what people were thinking when they said they didn’t want your face in your videos… I was thinking you looked gorgeous
When I saw that Lego Star Wars The Skywalker Saga had gameplay that was NOTHING Like the older Lego games I didn't wanna play any new Lego Star Wars games anymore...
For me I love all Lego Star Wars games from Lego Star Wars 1, 2, The Complete Saga, 3 The Clone Wars, The Force Awakens and The Skywalker Saga. All Lego Star Wars games were fun and great in their own rights and I’ve had tons of fun with all of them. Yes from a nostalgia point of view the older ones were better I.E. The Complete Saga with its awesome level design and very simplistic gameplay but from a modern point of view, the newer ones were better I.E. The Skywalker Sage as it has great hub worlds with plenty of exploration and with great third person shooter/rpg gameplay as well. For me no Lego Star Wars game is perfect and things could’ve been better in all of them, but at the end of the day, they’re all awesome and I’ll happily play all of them again and again. ⭐️
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I 100%ed every save file in the complete saga
Im gonna keeping it real chief, I like Clone Wars better than the Complete Saga
Glowing green orb? ☠️ 4:52
Reasons why Skywalker Saga is So bad is that the content is too big for regular player that they leave before Doing 50%
5:37 *GASP* DARK VADER
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The greatest crime of the Skywalker saga is not having a character customizer.
i have like 200 hours in skywalker saga on steam, and i do agree on some things (skill trees are pointless, the combat is still too easy, not enough platforming and puzzles) i do have to disagree on the open worlds.
while yes it is true it does feel liek theres too many collectables and it can be overwhelming, the majority of them take so little time to collect it doesnt really matter, while the more interesting stuff like unlocking characters and ships usually is an longer more interesting side quest. Reminds me a lot of mario odyssey actually, the open world is split into many locations some smaller some larger, with collectables scattered around with most of them being very simple to get while some take you on a longer journey. although skywalker saga doesnt have its mechanics fleshed out nearly as well as odyssey i think the format of a collectathon with most of the collectables are pretty common is really interesting and nice. i do also think you missed some points like the roster of characters not being all that unique with most of the characters being just copies of the other ones in their "class" outside of the animations and voice lines, which are quite nice but i do miss the uniqueness of characters in clone wars or force awakens. good video, just wish you went more in depth.
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Idk but clone wars was fun game
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19:27 The absolute BEST part of the video! 😂🤣
How dare games evolve over 10 years 🤬
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My first star wars lego game was the force awaken
am I cursed?
0:23 genuinely thought these were all the items from "objects ive shoved up my arse" for a minute lmao
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