My old Roland BK-7 arranger module worked great for backing tracks....I could even have all my files in order of my setlist with some tracks playing real time midi arranging and then intersperse backing track files where needed
Haha it's funny how small of a world it is man! This is one of the few times I Drift over to your side of music equipment. But yeah I was very happy with the P-1 one thing that might stop people from getting this is the price. Which I totally understand. But great to take the place of the LP 16 😁
That's where I really like this unit compared to some other options is the 6 outputs and being able to mix each output differently and also sending a click track to my drummer. Though if the looper works great for you, I say use it! 😁 thanks for watching!
To be perfect, 4 outs should be TRS (stereo 1/4) so it can leave 5-6 for clics and cues! I guess it can be possible for Idoru to modify the software so the headphone out become another stereo out! I think I'm gonna buy one...
550€,pricey. I like playing with backing tracks on my Zoom R24 or R8 recorders. It only has phones and stereo line outs but that is all I need. I can record my performance too which is nice for making videos and stuff.
Trying to figure out how this would integrate with the Quad Cortex. Running a Laney LFR-112 as a solo acoustic act with the Quad Cortex. Having a method to record my original music and port the drums, bass and rhythm guitar and possibly a backing vocal would be like finding the holy grail-If the damn thing actually works. I tried exporting a basic track, from my DAW without guitar and vocals, as an MP3 and I only got one side of the song. Also, the Laney LFR 112 Aux In does not have any volume/mixer capabilities. Like I stated, trying to see how I would get those tracks to actually "play" thru the Laney Aux In. Using the Idoru, it looks like I plug the P-1 into the Laney's Aux In?
Yeah some XLR outputs would be a great addition to see on this guy. Alot of the backing track players that I've worked with come with just the 1/4 inch outputs. Not sure why
600 dollars. There are better and cheaper options. The boss RC 500 half the price. It only has two outputs and has MIDI. Does not need an SD card. You can store up to 3 hours of music. On 99 different tracks. And it's 32-bit 44.1 and it's the same pedal format. And if you are going to spend that kind of money you might as well go with something that can play video as well like the B-Beat. This is definitely a cool product but they need to bring the price down to about 250 300. Otherwise this is a hard pass. You can get way more for your money.
I definitely see where you're coming from 600 is a bit to choke down. The main issue with the Boss RC500 for me is the fact that it only has 2 outputs. In my situation I wouldn't be able to send a click track to my drummer and tracks to front of house with the lack of outputs. And I don't mind the SD card because I can increase the amount that the P-1 can hold just by getting a bigger sd card. Nothing is a one size fits all. In my case this definitely does everything I need
...And I just found out the price of this device!! 😭😭😭😭 Again, my thought process is-Record original song, export each song part to a track (mix drums and Bass together to consolidate tracks) and then attach P-1 to the Laney LFR 112 Aux In?
What's up man! Thank you so much for watching! 😁 So with the P-1 I wouldn't use the Aux just because from my experience it consolidates all the tracks. If you can get a mixer with 6 channels that would work great if you can plug a mixer into your Laney LFR. And use the individual 1/4 inch outputs on the back to go to the different channels on the mixer that way you can adjust each part separately. If you're doing drums and bass together I recommend bouncing them as a stereo track for width. A stereo track will fill two of the 6 outputs on the P-1 so definitely keep that in mind so the two outputs would go to two channels on the mixer and I'd just pan one of the channels left and the other right to keep that width. Or you could do what I do and I make a really nice sounding mix with everything and export that as a stereo track and work it that way. Kinda like what I did in my video. And yes the price is a bit high for alot of people. These types of players are an essential for me while on stage and I love what they do 😁 I hope this helps out my friend!
Brilliant idea but grossly overpriced! If they sold for 200-250 i might consider one. I guess I could see the value for those that rely on backing tracks for most of their shows. Personally, I walk a fine line with backing tracks and of the few projects I'm in, some musicians I play with can't stand them, others are cool with them. Guess I'll have to stick with my phone!
Yeah I definitely understand the price my friend. I like having the tracks because anything that I can't play live is still able to be played. I wouldn't want to leave part of my songs out or it'd just sound empty to me. Backing tracks are definitely a touchy topic with some people forsure 😅 I try to understand both sides though
i went to Struggle Jennings he used backing tracks through a laptop it failed show was canceled halfway thru no refund it will be the last concert il ever pay money for. the industry has collapsed it's just going to get worse. don't pay top dollar for backing tracks and a mic
Not a fan of technology designed to replace the live performance out of live performances. I say that as a fan of live performances. As a musician, clearly I can see it's value. Seems, since I chose not to make music my living, perhaps I have the luxury to look down on products like this.
I understand your side of this forsure. At least for me backing track fill that void that i cant physically do live. But You don't have to look down on it though 😅
As a performing musician, whose band members left the country one by one, this product is very handy, even though I dislike being stuck to the boundaries of a track. Roland used to have a MC-50 MKii, where one could at least program each part of a song, to your own taste, allowing one to put an original spin on a song. Also very handy where you have recorded a part, say keyboards, but don’t want to pay a keyboardist to play it live (we get paid bad enough as it is).
I like it all! 100% Live and or backing tracks. I appreciate both and have respect for both. If you think it's easy to play with backing tracks....you've never played with backing tracks. It's an art in itself. Your drummer has to play to a click live. I used to be against a click live until I had a drummer who could play to one lol! Game changer.
@@classicdisaster3766 oh I’ve used them. Our drummer left and we got a Roland MC50 MKii. Drums, synths, even a rhythm guitar etc. I hated it. You are stuck to a format and that’s it. Whereas with live instruments you can read the vibe of the audience and manipulate them. You can’t do that with a recording. You’re stuck to a “studio” version and that’s it. Could just as well sit in comfy chairs on stage and play the album. I suppose it’s okay if you’re a wedding singer.
@@jimmcdougall9973 I think it's good for super tight metal bands that have a "mechanical" element to their music or Pop bands. It's definitely not going to work for artists like Phish....it would be cool to see lol. But hey.... different strokes for different folks! I guess I'm blessed that I like it all lol | am not pigeonholed into one flavor of music | type of live performance. I respect it all!
What a wonderful toy! Thanks for sharing
My old Roland BK-7 arranger module worked great for backing tracks....I could even have all my files in order of my setlist with some tracks playing real time midi arranging and then intersperse backing track files where needed
Idoru is a Japanese Virtual Idol in William Gibson's novel Idoru. She is an AI music star.
Nice man! Seems like a killer option, and a nice replacement to the Cymatic 🤘
@@musicafteroldage haha nice! I’ll be checking one out here hopefully soon. I know Chris, we are both in Colorado 🤘
Haha it's funny how small of a world it is man!
This is one of the few times I Drift over to your side of music equipment.
But yeah I was very happy with the P-1 one thing that might stop people from getting this is the price. Which I totally understand.
But great to take the place of the LP 16 😁
@@HighImpaktAudio I'd say get rid of the stomp feature and lower the price! 'cuz 6 outs is very limiting. Still very tempting!
Great review. Apart from the output count, have you compared this to the Cymatic Audio LP16?
I have done the same thing with my Roland looping floor unit. I just stored my backing track in it. I couldn't do 6 outputs though.
That's where I really like this unit compared to some other options is the 6 outputs and being able to mix each output differently and also sending a click track to my drummer.
Though if the looper works great for you, I say use it! 😁 thanks for watching!
To be perfect, 4 outs should be TRS (stereo 1/4) so it can leave 5-6 for clics and cues!
I guess it can be possible for Idoru to modify the software so the headphone out become another stereo out!
I think I'm gonna buy one...
I would definitely love to ditch my computer. Thanks for sharing that.
550€,pricey. I like playing with backing tracks on my Zoom R24 or R8 recorders. It only has phones and stereo line outs but that is all I need. I can record my performance too which is nice for making videos and stuff.
Trying to figure out how this would integrate with the Quad Cortex. Running a Laney LFR-112 as a solo acoustic act with the Quad Cortex.
Having a method to record my original music and port the drums, bass and rhythm guitar and possibly a backing vocal would be like finding the holy grail-If the damn thing actually works.
I tried exporting a basic track, from my DAW without guitar and vocals, as an MP3 and I only got one side of the song.
Also, the Laney LFR 112 Aux In does not have any volume/mixer capabilities.
Like I stated, trying to see how I would get those tracks to actually "play" thru the Laney Aux In.
Using the Idoru, it looks like I plug the P-1 into the Laney's Aux In?
$601 🎶🤘🏼
Joshua Travis would love this.
XLR outputs would’ve been appreciated
Yeah some XLR outputs would be a great addition to see on this guy. Alot of the backing track players that I've worked with come with just the 1/4 inch outputs. Not sure why
600 dollars. There are better and cheaper options. The boss RC 500 half the price. It only has two outputs and has MIDI. Does not need an SD card. You can store up to 3 hours of music. On 99 different tracks. And it's 32-bit 44.1 and it's the same pedal format. And if you are going to spend that kind of money you might as well go with something that can play video as well like the B-Beat.
This is definitely a cool product but they need to bring the price down to about 250 300. Otherwise this is a hard pass. You can get way more for your money.
I definitely see where you're coming from 600 is a bit to choke down.
The main issue with the Boss RC500 for me is the fact that it only has 2 outputs. In my situation I wouldn't be able to send a click track to my drummer and tracks to front of house with the lack of outputs.
And I don't mind the SD card because I can increase the amount that the P-1 can hold just by getting a bigger sd card.
Nothing is a one size fits all. In my case this definitely does everything I need
@@HighImpaktAudio I got click tracks on my RC 500. Output A is dedicated to click track . And output b is dedicated to backing tracks
The only thing missing from your presentation was an actual sound demo.
...And I just found out the price of this device!!
😭😭😭😭
Again, my thought process is-Record original song, export each song part to a track (mix drums and Bass together to consolidate tracks) and then attach P-1 to the Laney LFR 112 Aux In?
What's up man! Thank you so much for watching! 😁
So with the P-1 I wouldn't use the Aux just because from my experience it consolidates all the tracks. If you can get a mixer with 6 channels that would work great if you can plug a mixer into your Laney LFR. And use the individual 1/4 inch outputs on the back to go to the different channels on the mixer that way you can adjust each part separately.
If you're doing drums and bass together I recommend bouncing them as a stereo track for width. A stereo track will fill two of the 6 outputs on the P-1 so definitely keep that in mind so the two outputs would go to two channels on the mixer and I'd just pan one of the channels left and the other right to keep that width.
Or you could do what I do and I make a really nice sounding mix with everything and export that as a stereo track and work it that way. Kinda like what I did in my video.
And yes the price is a bit high for alot of people. These types of players are an essential for me while on stage and I love what they do 😁
I hope this helps out my friend!
Wicked!!! I dreamt of something like this! … someone’s getting fired 😮
Yep. Priced me out. Bummer. Back to my Boss BR1600 for building tracks.
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also a spd-sx bullet proof 4 output wav player
All my tracks are MP4 so I guess it’s not for me x
Brilliant idea but grossly overpriced! If they sold for 200-250 i might consider one. I guess I could see the value for those that rely on backing tracks for most of their shows. Personally, I walk a fine line with backing tracks and of the few projects I'm in, some musicians I play with can't stand them, others are cool with them. Guess I'll have to stick with my phone!
Yeah I definitely understand the price my friend. I like having the tracks because anything that I can't play live is still able to be played. I wouldn't want to leave part of my songs out or it'd just sound empty to me.
Backing tracks are definitely a touchy topic with some people forsure 😅 I try to understand both sides though
At what point are bands just doing live karaoke? Asking for a friend.
Dang, you could just show up with any amp modeling pedal and this thing and be good, especially as one person at a small gig.
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For $500.00 😮😮😮
i went to Struggle Jennings he used backing tracks through a laptop it failed show was canceled halfway thru no refund
it will be the last concert il ever pay money for. the industry has collapsed it's just going to get worse. don't pay top dollar for backing tracks and a mic
Your story sounds like a good reason TO pay good money for a piece of gear that won’t fail.
$600? LOL
Not a fan of technology designed to replace the live performance out of live performances. I say that as a fan of live performances. As a musician, clearly I can see it's value. Seems, since I chose not to make music my living, perhaps I have the luxury to look down on products like this.
I understand your side of this forsure. At least for me backing track fill that void that i cant physically do live. But You don't have to look down on it though 😅
As a performing musician, whose band members left the country one by one, this product is very handy, even though I dislike being stuck to the boundaries of a track. Roland used to have a MC-50 MKii, where one could at least program each part of a song, to your own taste, allowing one to put an original spin on a song. Also very handy where you have recorded a part, say keyboards, but don’t want to pay a keyboardist to play it live (we get paid bad enough as it is).
I like it all! 100% Live and or backing tracks. I appreciate both and have respect for both. If you think it's easy to play with backing tracks....you've never played with backing tracks. It's an art in itself. Your drummer has to play to a click live. I used to be against a click live until I had a drummer who could play to one lol! Game changer.
@@classicdisaster3766 oh I’ve used them. Our drummer left and we got a Roland MC50 MKii. Drums, synths, even a rhythm guitar etc. I hated it. You are stuck to a format and that’s it. Whereas with live instruments you can read the vibe of the audience and manipulate them. You can’t do that with a recording. You’re stuck to a “studio” version and that’s it. Could just as well sit in comfy chairs on stage and play the album.
I suppose it’s okay if you’re a wedding singer.
@@jimmcdougall9973 I think it's good for super tight metal bands that have a "mechanical" element to their music or Pop bands. It's definitely not going to work for artists like Phish....it would be cool to see lol. But hey.... different strokes for different folks! I guess I'm blessed that I like it all lol | am not pigeonholed into one flavor of music | type of live performance. I respect it all!