Yesss!! I could not agree more! I hope that they continue to re-imagine some of the artworks into more useful cards, like they've been doing with Mistar Boy, etc.
@@ENCHANTMEN_ Oh, you mean the unnecessarily robotic-looking monsters (some being flat-out overdesigned and messy *cough* Odd-Eyes archetype *cough*), the waning lack of inspiration or creativity in the art, bright colors, and nothing like the grim artwork of Burning Abyss, the fierce dragon rulers, world legacy, hell even Stardust looks better than most of the link cards. Jesus, Takahashi must've stopped doing artwork after ZEXAL (a series that holds some of the worst artwork I've ever seen in my life)
Same. The original and GX era artwork has a really good sense of art in it. 5D's onwards, most of the anime-based cards have really plain artwork. Lightsworn cards are one of my favorite art styles because they look really majestic and heroic.
it's weird because I expect less support to equal bad and Ojama normal monsters can also benefit from other normal monster card exclusive effects like Rescue Rabbit.
Kaiba: "Ahahahah! Yugi I survived with 10 LP, and I have an Eclipse Wyvern on the field" Yugi: "I tribute kuriboh for summoning Dark Chimera, Dark Chimera attack" Kaiba: "impossible! Damn you yugi"
Tyhone #2 also actually saw play in hazy flames back in the day because it's the only level 6 fire dragon normal monster that Tefnuit can summon. The reason the attribute is important is because Basiltrice cannot be made without fire level 6 materials.
It's not on the list he just mentioned it at some point while overlooking the deck people actually un-ironically played Tyhone#2 in. So I felt like bringing it up because Hazy Flames where a fun short lived candle of a deck.
The argument for the Ojamas being here was weird. I think they're better than other weak normal monsters just because they DO have that unique support for them. I mean compare them to just any old low level normal monster. Neither are gonna do any damage, but these guys can do some weird magic.
I think that the rationale is that, while the Ojamas are a surprisingly effective archetype, they're one of the few archetypes that relies pretty much entirely on support cards and not the Monsters themselves. I haven't played Yu-Gi-Oh! in a longass time, but here's a few comparisons of other Normal Monster decks that I can remember: Thousand Energy/Triangle Power: Boosts the power of Monsters on the field so they can run over your opponent's Monsters. Blue-Eyes White Dragon: While the game is built around absurdly long chains of effects and Summons nowadays, having a 3000 ATK wall between your opponent and your Life Points is rather nice. Something like Chaos Max or Alternative Blue-Eyes is even better. Skull Servants: Even if the Servants themselves have little use (from what I faintly remember), their mere presence powers up other cards, like King of the Skull Servants. The Ojamas are the one Normal Monster archetype where you almost never want or even NEED them to see use, because they're infinitely more valuable being bounced around the hand, deck, and Graveyard via their Spell cards. Even if you manage to swarm the field with them via something like Ojama Red, there's nothing that they can do that some other card won't do better. Even a group of Skull Servants can ATTACK without needing outside help. As far as I can remember, none of the Ojamas have any attack points at all on their own - not even their Fusions. tl;dr: The point here isn't that the Ojamas DON'T belong on this list because they're part of an archetype; it's that they DO belong on this list because, *even IN that archetype,* they're garbage compared to every other Normal Monster archetype in the game.
@@DaRkLoRdZoRc The point is that Ojamas have more support than other random level 2 cards that were made to fill in packs and your argument, that Ojamas can't attack makes literally no sense. A Yellow Ojama can Atk and defeat an Chaos Max dragon that is in Atk position, because their field spell swaps Atk and Defence.
@@brianaguilar8283 @mdudegamer TL;DR: Field boni of 30%. Looking at 1610 -> 30% of that is 483 -> 2193 attack -> basically 2200. Similarly, 920/1930 (Castle of dark illusions) -> 276/579 -> 1196/2509 -> 1200/2500 Using a 30% bonus you can get most of them rather close to "full" stats, although Sword arm of dragon should've probably had 2040 DEF.
@@brianaguilar8283 Well duh. All cards have a use. What makes a card good or bad is how helpful that use is. At no point is banishing a bunch of cards from the grave really all that helpful. It can be kinda useful against decks like burning abyss, shaddolls, nekroz, but there are better options for playing against those decks. Soul release isn't a good card.
FLUXX840 the entire archetype was inspired by balitan. Just like Elementsaber was inspired by the Fate Series. Many cards are inspire on anime, Japanese folklore and other cartoons (like the trap car for tuners that is literally Vegeta super sayan with a dueldisk) but now they are also making entire archetypes
TheDuelLogs can you do a most annoying cards video? I am talking the most annoying to be up against cards. Also how annoying is Macro Cosmos on a scale of 1 to 10 in your opinion?
I hit the post button a bit too soon while trying to move the spot I was typing, I intended to say 1 is extremely annoying and 10 is not very annoying.
@@TheDuelLogs yes you can. If you r opponent makes reprodocus and declares water and you do the same you can use rescue rabbit to summon them out in the zones and make bahumut shark. With an extra monster zone open!!!!!
As another hieratic player I have to say I have used it rarely and never at more than 1 in the 6 ish years Hieratics have been around only if I had to use gebeb cuz otherwise just run blue eyes.
u guys really underestimate the seal. blue-eyes doesn't accomplish anything in hieratics that the seal doesn't aswell. but unlike blue-eyes you can use the seal with nebthet, su and can even search it if needed to discard it for trade-in. blue-eyes is the inferior normal lvl 8 in hieratics by a longshot. if u leave a normal monster on the board u are cleary doing smth wrong in hieratics. even if i wanted some stats from my lvl 8 i'd rather play dragon core hexer for possible tzolkin plays. the only time blue-eyes would be (kinda) useful is with inferno reckless summon. but that's in the cost of consistency which hieratics have issues to begin with. i personally prefer 1 labra + 1 seal as normals (flamvell and galaxy serpent don't cut it anymore). though. that said. i still struggle with a viable build in master rule 4. + the hieratic link suxs bad. hieratics were always a go second deck. but with the current first turn boards hieratics just fold before even trying
There was a werid period in early yugioh where konami thought that having mid 1000s attack or defence was strong for a level 4. But they also thought that having mid 1000 in both stats warrants a level 5, forgetting you can't use a monster in attack and defence at the same time
In Volume 1, the first OCG set, the highest ATK of any monster that you could normal summon without tribute was Hitatsu-Me Giant, with 1200ATK. The power creep began before Yugioh even debuted in the West.
You forgot Petit Moth. Sure you can equip Cacoon of Evolution to try and bring out Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth or Great Moth. But you can cheat using Cacoon of Ultra Evolution. Really it being a generic insect, it doesn't get a whole lot of support. Unlike the Ojamas.
Oh man, slot machine. We had one of those dispenser things in my local grocery store like you would get stickers and other cheap junk from, but when YuGiOh Was at its peak popularity around here, they started putting YuGiOh cards in them. And that was the very first card I got from that machine. I tried to trade it off to people, but no one ever wanted it, of course. Lol I managed to get 2 blue eyes and 3 pieces of exodia from that same machine over the course of that year, so I ended up building an Exodia deck before I stopped dueling because I got my deck taken away in school for trading in class. Here I am 18 years later and getting back into the game and seeing how much it has evolved. It’s crazy.
I don't understand how ojamas can have broken synergy cards but yet they're on this list? What is this list even for? I would assume it would be littered with non archetype low stat monsters with bad levels.
Because the Ojamas, even with all of thier support, are only run out of absolute necessity. A lot of normals, especially those from the first 5 years, are completely useless by themselves. But they can still be dragged to competence by things that spam for XYZ and others. So the list was mostly which cards are the worst at interacting with some of those aspects of modern play.
bet its gonna be worth a lot some day, just because its that bad and nobody wants it, so nobody has it, except the chosen few. Sadly there are no rare ones.. Lol Some lighting congers are sold higher than Dark Magician Girl (so basically higher than 10 cents)
Actually I think level 3 is a pretty good level for certain types of cards and archetypes. The rank 3 xyz lineup is pretty good for starters, including cards like Leviair, Nightmare Shark, Break Sword, Grampulse, and my all time favorite, Dante. Several cards aid and encourage rank 3 xyz plays like Tour Guide, Rescue Ferret, and the Terrortop+Taketomborg engine. It's probably because Burning Abyss is my favorite deck that I've learned the value of level 3 monsters.
Honestly just retrain the union monsters to include (the equipped monster cannot be targeted) and they would totally be playable even against a lot of modern cards
I'd like to suggest Best Ritual Monsters. Rituals have been getting better thanks to good generic support like Incantations and, most of the time when an archetype is focused on them, support tends to make them consistent as hell to pull off to counteract Rituals innate weaknesses. It'd be nice to see some love to my favorite special summon subtype in the game (and a worst list would be a little easy if you're just going off the old vanillas)
How about a new Top 10 Worst [insert type of card here] Monsters once a month? And I'll be looking forward to the Best Level 4 monsters with more than 1800 atk. i may suck at yugioh but i know a few thanks to Duel Links (which i just got into)
worst effect a monster when he hits your opponent they draw 2 worst fusion 1200 atk beat stick worst ritual dragon knight 1400 normal ritual beatstick worst xyz rank 3 acid golem 2k burn per round to self worst pendulum vanilla dino with no pendulum or monster effect worst synchro lvl 2 when he dies draw one only wind tuner worst link a 0 atk 1 arrow pointing up link monster than can old be summoned during main phase 2 XD
Most of those lists would just be filled with the oldest ones released tbh Old Effect Monsters with bad stats and situational effects that relied on things like battle destruction Vanilla Rituals Vanilla Fusions with bad materials and so on. Synchro and Pendulum would probably be interesting, and Links once there's more of them.
Don't diss Stone Dragon too much; he's perfectly fine in Forbidden Memories, mostly as a stepping-stone on your way to Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon, but he can be decent on his own if need be. Tyhone #2 would actually be pretty dope in Forbidden Memories too, as you can fuse him with several dragons to get Red Eyes, and then fuse Red Eyes with Meteor Dragon to get Meteor B. Dragon, the best monster that the player has access to. The only problem is that you just can't get him in any way without cheating.
You can get Meteor B. Dragon as a drop from the Forest Mage. When I found that out, I dueled him twice and got it on the second drop. I then proceeded to dupe it with the 3-memory-card trick to get three copies, and it allowed me to finally beat the game.
I'm not sure ojama should be on the list, I totally agree there a terrible card, but there the lynch pin for the archetype, there'd be no ojama decks without the ojama brothers.
Honestly, the most useful idea I ever come up with for Koitsu was to put in a deck where I would give it to the opponent with the aid of Mystic Box and then run over with KA-2 Des Scissors in order to inflict 5,000 points of burn damage. And while this combo is pretty good. It's also highly inconsistent and would only work in the old GBA games if you were trying to have some fun.
So apparently Dark Chimera and all of Panik's monsters originally had even 50 numbers for their attack value, but once it was ported to the anime, they included the boost from their weird Yami equivalent with boosted their attack by 30%. So in order for the attacks to stay the same after this effect, they changed the base number. So Dark Chimera was actually supposed to have 2100 attack, but was changed so that his attack would get close to that in the anime.
0:24 Ojamas, 1:02 Heratic Seal of the Sun Dragon Overlord 1:46 Ancient Jar 2:37 Sleeping lion 3:28 Flying fish 4:21 Soitsu and Aitsu 5:11 Stone Dragon 5:31 Giant Mech Soldier 6:16 Typhone #2 7:32 Dark Chimera 8:58 Lightning Conger
I mean, you include support and consider it for every other cards but the Ojama's and considering they probably have some of the most support. I don't like how you dismiss them so easily, because why? Sure, if we are just talking stat lines but you included support as a variable so ye... Because they were literally made for them to have a lot of support.
I thought that too, but it's a dark spellcaster and fusion material for one of the best fusions in the game (although most decks don't want to hard summon TER)
Its so crazy, I remember using Lightning Conger to get out of sticky situations in the very early GBA games because they had type/attribute circles. So LC (Lightning Conger), because of its really odd typing, was able to get rid of some higher level threats that otherwise I couldn't deal with cause the games would make you have weak decks cause you "couldn't handle using" better cards. Was a really interesting and frustrating mechanic to work around
In terms of level 5 normal monsters, there are a number of really bad ones, like say Rock Spirit, which is a level 5, spellcaster, earth monster with 1650 and 1900. And Leo Wizard has even worse stats... and there's not really many EARTH Spellcasters normal monsters either so, go figure that one out for yourself..... List Idea: Cards/archetypes that are meta with support but were released several years ago. I.E. Thunder Dragon is now an archetype thanks to the support it got this year even thought the card was originally released several years ago, over 15 at minimum I'd say.
I don't see the merit for having the ojamas here. On top of their own support, they combo well with tri-wight and can easily go into knightmare spam. Like yeah their stats are bad at a glance but low-level normal monster support gives them a huge boost
I would rather have a Watapon deck over an Ojama one. With games being decided on the second or the third turn, it's best to invest in high tier troll cards over loss cards. :D
i mean from what i got from the video is: your criteria were: how easy is it to bring out? how bad are its stats ? how much generic type support and attribute support can it make use of ? but you never mentioned the criterium : does its type/level combination enable extra deck plays (which would kinda be the reason as to why you want to swarm the field with them). i mean i can agree with all of the cards on the list since i can t think of any real specific usefulness of any of these cards for an extra deck monster you can run. if you for example would have used shapesnatch as the worst level 5 monster i would immidiately make the counter argument of "wait, you can make cyber dragon nova with shapesnatch, so because of that it is slightly less bad than any non-machine type level 5 monster". if you make a similar video like this it might be wise to include this criterium as well in order to avoid a comment section full of comments like this.
With links monsters all monsters that can swarm are in a way useful. Granted you cant make cards that need effect monsters or knightmares but you can make link spider/proxy dragon and then go into knightmares/Borrel dragons.
i mean i know that all monsters that can swarm are useful for link plays or xyz plays. hence why he took the generic type and attribute support they can use into account. my point was - i was not sure IF he has taken a look at the xyz line-up for the specific level or and have taken a look if a specific attribute or type would allow a crappy monster to be technically be usable as a material for a very strong monster. if we for example had a level 2 normal monster with 0 atk and defense but that monster would be aqua type you could make the argument that that monster can technically be used to make toadally awesome, which is a very strong card. that would make it slightly less bad than for example a level 2 normal reptile monster with better stats. and well, if he had named the hypothetical aqua type monster the worst level 2 normal monster in the game, the entire comment section would be full of comments saying what i just said "hurrrdurrr, you can make toadally awesome with it". since he never mentioned he has kicked a card out for this reason, i was not sure he has taken that factor into account, so all that i am saying is: if you make a similar video in the future, it would be good to take a look at this as well if you did not do it. this was just meant as a feedback and not a negative comment in any way.
The actual list would be lokking for the absolutely worst combination of type,level and atribute, and put the 10 normal monster whit the least stats. It would also be boring as heck.
I have a decent win streak that got me (so far) to Bronze 5 in Yugioh Duel Links. It is a Blue Eyes Hieratic Deck that would probably lose in the real world. It has 2 of the Hieratic Seal of the Sun Dragon Overlord that helps me get out my Heliopis or other better monsters. It is also a good card to special summon target with the Hieratic monsters
Alone yes ojama's are pointless to use, but like you said it's got so much support, and Chazz mostly use them as bait, or as an easier way to tribute summon!! I really wish more support comes out for ojama's, as Chazz is one of my favorite characters
Ojamas: Sure, they're individually weak. Their archetype can do some really crazy stuff, though. Hieratic Seal: having played Hieratics in Duel Link, having a level 8 dragon-type vanilla is kind of important for their plays. That being said, I preferred running them with ol' Blue-Eyes rather than Seal. Flying Fish: If this had been released in the Synchro era I would have assumed it existed specifically for Synchro plays off of cards that float low-attack monsters. But this was released all the way back in freakin' Labyrinth of Nightmare. That's freakin' Android Format. Soitsu and Aitsu: These guys solely exist as a reference to _Sexy Parodius,_ another Konami game.
idk about the real life sets but i noticed in duel links each new set will have useless 400 attack point mosnters. same with the duelist decks that you get when you unlock new duelists. thats why i quit duel links. constant power creep and half the cards they give you are useless.
I stopped playing Yu-Gi-Oh roughly when Pendulum Monsters were released, have never played competitively or even online, so I have no real idea of how people play the game outside of my person friend group. This makes these videos really interesting. I did, however, have a Hieratic Deck (with Galaxy Eyes Photon Dragon and some of its Xyz variants, which probably wasn't good but it worked in my ultra-casual setting.) I never had a copy of Inferno Reckless Summon to play, even if that idea actually sounds kind of cool in the deck, but I just shoved three Blue-Eyes into the deck instead of the Seals. The vast majority of the effects just refer to Normal Dragon monsters and set the card's stats to 0, so it's an equally valid target, while at least being theoretically useful if I can put it on the board through other means than Hieratic Dragon effects.
Ojama should not be on this list - they are too pure for this. But, then again, this is coming from the one that had a mildly successful Ojama deck before Konami nuked everything with Master Rule 4 so, maybe I'm a bit biased. But, they are a lot more fun than you give them credit for. There's just... so much you can do.
Mah boi Tyhone #2 making a cameo, he was my first high level monster I ever owned from my very first pack ever back in the day and thus he will always remain a treasure of mine along with Electric Snake my very first card I ever pulled.
Now I came from a foreign background so I'm not sure what the name is, but the little guys on paper planes are based on characters from konami's other popular scroll shooting game. The game featured minor adult content so it was popular, the blue paper plane guy was an extra popular character due to his unique outfit.
My first ever cards I got as a kid was a Labyrinth of Nightmare pack my mom got me. In that one pack I had both a Lightning Conger and a secret rare Gemini Elf on my first ever booster lol
Ojamas can be good in ABC Dragon Buster decks, with that banishing potential and all. Probably will be better in MR4/20 (MR5 to some people) with the possibility of fusion spamming. Hopefully we see a new Ojama support wave - Ojama Lime, Ojama Purple, Winged Ojama etc. from the Ojama Village art. Then we'll see who is the true king. The true OJAMA KING. Also Ojama King has some busted lockdown shenanigans in Duel Links, which says very little.
The worst level 5 normal monster would have to be Spike Seadra. It's a Sea Serpent type with 1600 attack and 1300 defense. Haven't seen much support for Sea Serpent compared to Fiends.
I won my first tournament with skull servant, as a joke, I got him over 4000atk and beat a blue eyes deck to claim victory... ahh the good old days when 1 duel would take 15min
Interestingly, lightning conga was kind of good in YGO: The Sacred Cards (gba game), because opponents would always attack face down defence monsters, and with the deck restrictions and low cost to put into your deck, and your opponents really awful decks, you could set up a good play or two with it, leaving the opponent with only one weak attack position monster on the field. But yeah, apart from badly programmed video games from 2002(?) I don't really see a use for it lol
@@KingOfDarknessAndEvil they're supossed to be that way, in this game there's simply more than broken expensive cards and hot new summon mechanics, there's also support and knowing what to do with everything you have... even vanillas 👑
@@VixXstazosJOB True, however because of that I think it's not wrong for him to put them on the list. It's like he made a list titled "top 10 hot things on Earth" and put fire on it or something
I can't agree with your number 10 pick. Ojama's can be fun to play. Their support makes a pretty neat God engine; which no one ever really saw coming. Well not usually. I like to run them with The Creator as well. To each their own I guess. Good video non the less.
I actually love the "useless" pilot vanillas from the 1998 to 2003 era of ocg yugioh, they were really creative in terms of art.
yeah, Giant Mech soldier has such great art
Dito. Those are still my favourites.
Problem with that logic, a lot are kinda like retrains
Yesss!! I could not agree more! I hope that they continue to re-imagine some of the artworks into more useful cards, like they've been doing with Mistar Boy, etc.
@@tefnutofhoney2832 there's no problem if he simply likes that lol
My Top Worst Normal Monsters: *starts just listing everything in Joey's deck*
Not Red-Eyes.......
Or Maybe Even Baby Dragon ..........
Red eyes was and still is shit
@@samphelps5010 okay kiddo run along now 😆
@@samphelps5010 it was shit back then, now it's shit because of a certain generic link-2
🤣 "Monstas, real monstas!"
Damn...sometimes I miss that vintage YuGiOh art style cards had.
Tell me about it, I dislike playing modern ygo.
On the one hand, I really like a lot of the more modern looks, but the older ones do have a certain charm to them with their bizarre designs.
@@ENCHANTMEN_ Oh, you mean the unnecessarily robotic-looking monsters (some being flat-out overdesigned and messy *cough* Odd-Eyes archetype *cough*), the waning lack of inspiration or creativity in the art, bright colors, and nothing like the grim artwork of Burning Abyss, the fierce dragon rulers, world legacy, hell even Stardust looks better than most of the link cards. Jesus, Takahashi must've stopped doing artwork after ZEXAL (a series that holds some of the worst artwork I've ever seen in my life)
Same. The original and GX era artwork has a really good sense of art in it. 5D's onwards, most of the anime-based cards have really plain artwork. Lightsworn cards are one of my favorite art styles because they look really majestic and heroic.
@@anayos6726 Not everyone likes generic dark fantasy as a style. I prefer the bright colorful style.
Top 10 worst normal monsters * Sees Ojamas* Inhale.......BOI
it's weird because I expect less support to equal bad and Ojama normal monsters can also benefit from other normal monster card exclusive effects like Rescue Rabbit.
Yeah ojama bois aren't bad where's fire grass in this list?
Ojama King's effect is useful. Imagine your opponent can only summon two monsters
@@astral7950 imagine if its duel links and you cant summon anything
@@devastatheseeker9967 spell effects will be appropriate
pendulum machine is the og pendulum monster.
Pendulums are in duel links lol
No, they aren‘t. Pendulums are half monster, half spell card.
TallerVision with no monsters left on the field, i summon dark magician
Retrain when
LampDoesStuff how’d u do that? Did u have a set dark magic curtain? Is so make sure u make that clear lol
Kaiba: "Ahahahah! Yugi I survived with 10 LP, and I have an Eclipse Wyvern on the field"
Yugi: "I tribute kuriboh for summoning Dark Chimera, Dark Chimera attack"
Kaiba: "impossible! Damn you yugi"
I've always wanted to see how low I can get myself in a game, though cards with weird attack stats and "halve your lp" effects
I got to 100 LP in dual links and then gone back to full hp cause aromas
The answer is 1 LP, because Gandora is a non-once per turn pay half your LP, destroy everything else.
Oh my gosh, you’re right! I don’t think you can pay half your LP if there’s no more cards to destroy, but I could be wrong.
@@isaakwelch3451 Just use Ra
7:47 you mean the one who shape was snatched?
no the one whose shape was snatched doesn't have the bow tie
This comment
Shapesnatch is the bowtie, not the thing it's on. The One Whose Shape was Snatched is the thing itself.
Tyhone #2 also actually saw play in hazy flames back in the day because it's the only level 6 fire dragon normal monster that Tefnuit can summon. The reason the attribute is important is because Basiltrice cannot be made without fire level 6 materials.
But tyhone is not in the list
It's not on the list
he just mentioned it at some point while overlooking the deck people actually un-ironically played Tyhone#2 in. So I felt like bringing it up because Hazy Flames where a fun short lived candle of a deck.
Zobi Tyhone #2 has cool art but I’m pretty sure he was only played begrudgingly, because they had to
@@Zobi_YT Tyhone also did indeed see play in Hieratics.
@ The TH-camr is not omniscient, he cant know every single possible combo ever played in history.
Now do a top 10 best normal monsters
Number 1 would probably be Blue Eyes, just because it has the most support
Blue eyes, dark magician, red eyes, neos, spiral, lvl4 evilswarm, lvl4 dinos, 2000 atk beaters, etc?
I agree and insist on skull servant being in the list
The best is skull servant for sure
#1 = Shapesnatch
The argument for the Ojamas being here was weird. I think they're better than other weak normal monsters just because they DO have that unique support for them. I mean compare them to just any old low level normal monster. Neither are gonna do any damage, but these guys can do some weird magic.
That’s why they’re so low on the list
@@mqfii8992 they shouldnt be on the list
I think that the rationale is that, while the Ojamas are a surprisingly effective archetype, they're one of the few archetypes that relies pretty much entirely on support cards and not the Monsters themselves. I haven't played Yu-Gi-Oh! in a longass time, but here's a few comparisons of other Normal Monster decks that I can remember:
Thousand Energy/Triangle Power: Boosts the power of Monsters on the field so they can run over your opponent's Monsters.
Blue-Eyes White Dragon: While the game is built around absurdly long chains of effects and Summons nowadays, having a 3000 ATK wall between your opponent and your Life Points is rather nice. Something like Chaos Max or Alternative Blue-Eyes is even better.
Skull Servants: Even if the Servants themselves have little use (from what I faintly remember), their mere presence powers up other cards, like King of the Skull Servants.
The Ojamas are the one Normal Monster archetype where you almost never want or even NEED them to see use, because they're infinitely more valuable being bounced around the hand, deck, and Graveyard via their Spell cards. Even if you manage to swarm the field with them via something like Ojama Red, there's nothing that they can do that some other card won't do better. Even a group of Skull Servants can ATTACK without needing outside help. As far as I can remember, none of the Ojamas have any attack points at all on their own - not even their Fusions.
tl;dr: The point here isn't that the Ojamas DON'T belong on this list because they're part of an archetype; it's that they DO belong on this list because, *even IN that archetype,* they're garbage compared to every other Normal Monster archetype in the game.
something strange happens when all three are together, so that's a bonus
@@DaRkLoRdZoRc The point is that Ojamas have more support than other random level 2 cards that were made to fill in packs and your argument, that Ojamas can't attack makes literally no sense. A Yellow Ojama can Atk and defeat an Chaos Max dragon that is in Atk position, because their field spell swaps Atk and Defence.
I always find the odd-numbered attack cards like Dark Chimera really interesting.
Panik
@@Anzorious not all of them. Sword Arm of Dragon was used by Rex
@@brianaguilar8283 @mdudegamer TL;DR: Field boni of 30%. Looking at 1610 -> 30% of that is 483 -> 2193 attack -> basically 2200. Similarly, 920/1930 (Castle of dark illusions) -> 276/579 -> 1196/2509 -> 1200/2500
Using a 30% bonus you can get most of them rather close to "full" stats, although Sword arm of dragon should've probably had 2040 DEF.
Did that card ever get an official release in the TCG? Cause I can't remember?
@@nine_tails137 it's still JP exclusive to this day
I always loved the artwork for Aitsu. They had great art and flavor text on some bad cards.
Worst cards with beautiful art? I got the Idea when you mentioned souleater
Souleater is actually the monster surrounding the fish, it's oddly cut off in the frame.
Soul release is a terrible card with great artwork.
Some early Duel Terminal cards
maxie fuqua no it isn’t, you can banish 5 cards from either player’s graveyard. It has use.
@@brianaguilar8283
Well duh. All cards have a use. What makes a card good or bad is how helpful that use is.
At no point is banishing a bunch of cards from the grave really all that helpful.
It can be kinda useful against decks like burning abyss, shaddolls, nekroz, but there are better options for playing against those decks.
Soul release isn't a good card.
is it me or does the hieratic seal resemble a Bakugan 🤔😂
FLUXX840 the entire archetype was inspired by balitan. Just like Elementsaber was inspired by the Fate Series. Many cards are inspire on anime, Japanese folklore and other cartoons (like the trap car for tuners that is literally Vegeta super sayan with a dueldisk) but now they are also making entire archetypes
That was my childhood man
Real talk I love Bakugan
He insulted the One Who's Shape Was Snatched.
We cannot abide this heresy!
What? But you cannot summon bshamut shark using flying fish, it's Wind attribute
lol oops
TheDuelLogs can you do a most annoying cards video? I am talking the most annoying to be up against cards. Also how annoying is Macro Cosmos on a scale of 1 to 10 in your opinion?
I hit the post button a bit too soon while trying to move the spot I was typing, I intended to say 1 is extremely annoying and 10 is not very annoying.
@@TheDuelLogs yes you can. If you r opponent makes reprodocus and declares water and you do the same you can use rescue rabbit to summon them out in the zones and make bahumut shark. With an extra monster zone open!!!!!
@@revelmonger there are plenty 'useful' lv4 water normal monsters such as 7 colored fish (1800 atk) which can be used for that
As a hieratic player I can completely confirm the disdain for the seal. I'd rather run 3 blue eyes instead
It's useful but only if you run gebeb
Dragard
I run two because I dont have more than one blue eyes and I dont know where my rabbidragon is
As another hieratic player I have to say I have used it rarely and never at more than 1 in the 6 ish years Hieratics have been around only if I had to use gebeb cuz otherwise just run blue eyes.
u guys really underestimate the seal. blue-eyes doesn't accomplish anything in hieratics that the seal doesn't aswell. but unlike blue-eyes you can use the seal with nebthet, su and can even search it if needed to discard it for trade-in. blue-eyes is the inferior normal lvl 8 in hieratics by a longshot. if u leave a normal monster on the board u are cleary doing smth wrong in hieratics. even if i wanted some stats from my lvl 8 i'd rather play dragon core hexer for possible tzolkin plays. the only time blue-eyes would be (kinda) useful is with inferno reckless summon. but that's in the cost of consistency which hieratics have issues to begin with. i personally prefer 1 labra + 1 seal as normals (flamvell and galaxy serpent don't cut it anymore).
though. that said. i still struggle with a viable build in master rule 4. + the hieratic link suxs bad. hieratics were always a go second deck. but with the current first turn boards hieratics just fold before even trying
Are you implying Shapesnatch is anything less than godlike?
He's here to kick ass and get his shape snatched, and his shape was snatched.
There was a werid period in early yugioh where konami thought that having mid 1000s attack or defence was strong for a level 4. But they also thought that having mid 1000 in both stats warrants a level 5, forgetting you can't use a monster in attack and defence at the same time
In Volume 1, the first OCG set, the highest ATK of any monster that you could normal summon without tribute was Hitatsu-Me Giant, with 1200ATK.
The power creep began before Yugioh even debuted in the West.
Flying fish can’t be used for bahamut. Bahamut needs waters, not fishes.
You mean wind. Shark can’t use Flying Fish because he’s wind
0:34 you just described Chazz from yugioh GX 😂
BosnianDiamond Konacno neko nas hah
Chazz actually likes his Ojama's. They said it a couple of times in the anime.
@@Milkshakes289 Not at the beginning
SHOW NO MERCY
@Benjamin Hausmann he likes them even if he won't admit it.
The really old yugioh art has that really mystical feel to it.
You forgot Petit Moth. Sure you can equip Cacoon of Evolution to try and bring out Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth or Great Moth. But you can cheat using Cacoon of Ultra Evolution. Really it being a generic insect, it doesn't get a whole lot of support. Unlike the Ojamas.
Oh man, slot machine. We had one of those dispenser things in my local grocery store like you would get stickers and other cheap junk from, but when YuGiOh Was at its peak popularity around here, they started putting YuGiOh cards in them. And that was the very first card I got from that machine. I tried to trade it off to people, but no one ever wanted it, of course. Lol I managed to get 2 blue eyes and 3 pieces of exodia from that same machine over the course of that year, so I ended up building an Exodia deck before I stopped dueling because I got my deck taken away in school for trading in class. Here I am 18 years later and getting back into the game and seeing how much it has evolved. It’s crazy.
I don't understand how ojamas can have broken synergy cards but yet they're on this list? What is this list even for? I would assume it would be littered with non archetype low stat monsters with bad levels.
Because the Ojamas, even with all of thier support, are only run out of absolute necessity.
A lot of normals, especially those from the first 5 years, are completely useless by themselves. But they can still be dragged to competence by things that spam for XYZ and others.
So the list was mostly which cards are the worst at interacting with some of those aspects of modern play.
Yeah but Ojamas are still the more useful than Basic Insect 500ATK/700DEF
Just make a whole ojama video. Maybe April fools. No one will remember this comment by then.
I took a ss and made it my wallpaper so i will always remember it
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The hell if I do. I'm going go come back to this exact comment on the 1st of April! Mark my words...
Jurassicka hmm
Oof
Lightning conger, one of my very first cards. I'm proud
someone should try to make a Lighning Conger deck in YGOpro
bet its gonna be worth a lot some day, just because its that bad and nobody wants it, so nobody has it, except the chosen few. Sadly there are no rare ones..
Lol Some lighting congers are sold higher than Dark Magician Girl (so basically higher than 10 cents)
Actually I think level 3 is a pretty good level for certain types of cards and archetypes. The rank 3 xyz lineup is pretty good for starters, including cards like Leviair, Nightmare Shark, Break Sword, Grampulse, and my all time favorite, Dante. Several cards aid and encourage rank 3 xyz plays like Tour Guide, Rescue Ferret, and the Terrortop+Taketomborg engine. It's probably because Burning Abyss is my favorite deck that I've learned the value of level 3 monsters.
I wish they give Soitsu, Aitsu, and the blue and yellow one some more support
Honestly just retrain the union monsters to include (the equipped monster cannot be targeted) and they would totally be playable even against a lot of modern cards
@@kjb5128 I think it will take little more than that cannot be targeted effect to be on the retain to make them playable in todays meta.
@@TheLonelySoulja Oh it definitely wouldn't be enough to make them good, just playable lol
Flying fish was in the first booster I've ever opened. I was 7 back then. Thanks for the nostalgia.
I'd like to suggest Best Ritual Monsters. Rituals have been getting better thanks to good generic support like Incantations and, most of the time when an archetype is focused on them, support tends to make them consistent as hell to pull off to counteract Rituals innate weaknesses. It'd be nice to see some love to my favorite special summon subtype in the game (and a worst list would be a little easy if you're just going off the old vanillas)
Top 10 level 1 monsters next :)
Yes! Been asking this.
Next up?
Worst Effect Monsters?
Worst Fusion Monsters?
Worst Ritual Monsters?
Worst Synchro Monsters?
Worst Xyz Monsters?
Worst Pendulum Monsters?
AND...
Worst Link Monsters? (as of now, anyway)
Let's do it!
Creative
nah, next one will probably be best spell speed 4 cards, and then maybe best level 4 monsters with more than 1800 atk.
How about a new Top 10 Worst [insert type of card here] Monsters once a month?
And I'll be looking forward to the Best Level 4 monsters with more than 1800 atk. i may suck at yugioh but i know a few thanks to Duel Links (which i just got into)
worst effect a monster when he hits your opponent they draw 2 worst fusion 1200 atk beat stick worst ritual dragon knight 1400 normal ritual beatstick worst xyz rank 3 acid golem 2k burn per round to self worst pendulum vanilla dino with no pendulum or monster effect worst synchro lvl 2 when he dies draw one only wind tuner worst link a 0 atk 1 arrow pointing up link monster than can old be summoned during main phase 2 XD
Most of those lists would just be filled with the oldest ones released tbh
Old Effect Monsters with bad stats and situational effects that relied on things like battle destruction
Vanilla Rituals
Vanilla Fusions with bad materials
and so on. Synchro and Pendulum would probably be interesting, and Links once there's more of them.
I love the Soitsu and Aitsu cards and made a fun deck with them, summoned the with UFO Turtle, Mother Grizzly etc
Ive actually seen number nine used in a pretty effective way in a duel links deck
ordinary someone #shreksquadunite
Don't you be dissing the Ojamas
Donovan Fausette Ojama for OP
hey, ojamas are not trash!!
Lightning conger was the first yugioh card I ever had- it was only uphill from there
Don't diss Stone Dragon too much; he's perfectly fine in Forbidden Memories, mostly as a stepping-stone on your way to Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon, but he can be decent on his own if need be.
Tyhone #2 would actually be pretty dope in Forbidden Memories too, as you can fuse him with several dragons to get Red Eyes, and then fuse Red Eyes with Meteor Dragon to get Meteor B. Dragon, the best monster that the player has access to. The only problem is that you just can't get him in any way without cheating.
One of the funniest thing of forbidden memories and reshef of destruction, is that trashy cards can became godlike there.
Don’t forget duelists of the roses
You can get Meteor B. Dragon as a drop from the Forest Mage. When I found that out, I dueled him twice and got it on the second drop. I then proceeded to dupe it with the 3-memory-card trick to get three copies, and it allowed me to finally beat the game.
Yeah, the old era of the game was nice for letting pack filler mons shine in the video games.
Is Stone Dragon better now with the new rock support?
I'm not sure ojama should be on the list, I totally agree there a terrible card, but there the lynch pin for the archetype, there'd be no ojama decks without the ojama brothers.
4:05 Man I didn't know you could use wind monsters to summon Bahamut Shark.
But Flying Fish grants you 3 Wishes man...
Talking smack about my home boys, Ojamas? Boy, you gonna catch these hands.
"This massive eel generates huge charges of electricity and uleashes them as thunderbolts"
Honestly, the most useful idea I ever come up with for Koitsu was to put in a deck where I would give it to the opponent with the aid of Mystic Box and then run over with KA-2 Des Scissors in order to inflict 5,000 points of burn damage. And while this combo is pretty good. It's also highly inconsistent and would only work in the old GBA games if you were trying to have some fun.
U Scrub OJAMAS ARE THE BESTTTTT
I've actually won duels with lightning conger it takes ALOT of setup and combos but I love beating people with him
So apparently Dark Chimera and all of Panik's monsters originally had even 50 numbers for their attack value, but once it was ported to the anime, they included the boost from their weird Yami equivalent with boosted their attack by 30%. So in order for the attacks to stay the same after this effect, they changed the base number.
So Dark Chimera was actually supposed to have 2100 attack, but was changed so that his attack would get close to that in the anime.
make a top 10 yugioh top 10 videos
0:24 Ojamas,
1:02 Heratic Seal of the Sun Dragon Overlord
1:46 Ancient Jar
2:37 Sleeping lion
3:28 Flying fish
4:21 Soitsu and Aitsu
5:11 Stone Dragon
5:31 Giant Mech Soldier 6:16 Typhone #2
7:32 Dark Chimera
8:58 Lightning Conger
I mean, you include support and consider it for every other cards but the Ojama's and considering they probably have some of the most support. I don't like how you dismiss them so easily, because why? Sure, if we are just talking stat lines but you included support as a variable so ye... Because they were literally made for them to have a lot of support.
I used ancient jar to defeat a random player on ranked in duel links
How you ask!? I’ll never reveal my secret weapon
you'd be surprised at how many times people don't read equip cards
Let me geuss,power of the gaurdiens and trap holes?
Am I the only one who realized that "Wolf" and "Silver Fang" are the same cards?
Thousand eyes idol...just saying 😂
I thought that too, but it's a dark spellcaster and fusion material for one of the best fusions in the game (although most decks don't want to hard summon TER)
Great video this is the strangest top 10 i have ever seen AND I FREAKING LOVE IT now gimme my top 10 BEST normal monsters xP
Its so crazy, I remember using Lightning Conger to get out of sticky situations in the very early GBA games because they had type/attribute circles. So LC (Lightning Conger), because of its really odd typing, was able to get rid of some higher level threats that otherwise I couldn't deal with cause the games would make you have weak decks cause you "couldn't handle using" better cards. Was a really interesting and frustrating mechanic to work around
Lol this must have been a pain in the butt to search for candidates with justified reasons.
I have no idea why Ojamas are here
They are some of the best normal monsters in the game with the amount of support they get
I was really expecting to see "Doma the Angel of Silence" on here
I looked that card up; it had 3 erratas, and it's a Normal Monster...
I was expecting Morinphen, myself.
In terms of level 5 normal monsters, there are a number of really bad ones, like say Rock Spirit, which is a level 5, spellcaster, earth monster with 1650 and 1900. And Leo Wizard has even worse stats... and there's not really many EARTH Spellcasters normal monsters either so, go figure that one out for yourself.....
List Idea: Cards/archetypes that are meta with support but were released several years ago. I.E. Thunder Dragon is now an archetype thanks to the support it got this year even thought the card was originally released several years ago, over 15 at minimum I'd say.
Leo Wizard can be summoned by Giant Rat at least...
Mystic Soldier aah... that's a good point I hadn't thought about. Thanks for reminding me =3
I don't see the merit for having the ojamas here. On top of their own support, they combo well with tri-wight and can easily go into knightmare spam. Like yeah their stats are bad at a glance but low-level normal monster support gives them a huge boost
I would rather have a Watapon deck over an Ojama one. With games being decided on the second or the third turn, it's best to invest in high tier troll cards over loss cards. :D
i mean from what i got from the video is:
your criteria were: how easy is it to bring out?
how bad are its stats ?
how much generic type support and attribute support can it make use of ?
but you never mentioned the criterium : does its type/level combination enable extra deck plays (which would kinda be the reason as to why you want to swarm the field with them).
i mean i can agree with all of the cards on the list since i can t think of any real specific usefulness of any of these cards for an extra deck monster you can run. if you for example would have used shapesnatch as the worst level 5 monster i would immidiately make the counter argument of "wait, you can make cyber dragon nova with shapesnatch, so because of that it is slightly less bad than any non-machine type level 5 monster".
if you make a similar video like this it might be wise to include this criterium as well in order to avoid a comment section full of comments like this.
With links monsters all monsters that can swarm are in a way useful. Granted you cant make cards that need effect monsters or knightmares but you can make link spider/proxy dragon and then go into knightmares/Borrel dragons.
i mean i know that all monsters that can swarm are useful for link plays or xyz plays. hence why he took the generic type and attribute support they can use into account.
my point was - i was not sure IF he has taken a look at the xyz line-up for the specific level or and have taken a look if a specific attribute or type would allow a crappy monster to be technically be usable as a material for a very strong monster.
if we for example had a level 2 normal monster with 0 atk and defense but that monster would be aqua type you could make the argument that that monster can technically be used to make toadally awesome, which is a very strong card. that would make it slightly less bad than for example a level 2 normal reptile monster with better stats.
and well, if he had named the hypothetical aqua type monster the worst level 2 normal monster in the game, the entire comment section would be full of comments saying what i just said "hurrrdurrr, you can make toadally awesome with it".
since he never mentioned he has kicked a card out for this reason, i was not sure he has taken that factor into account, so all that i am saying is: if you make a similar video in the future, it would be good to take a look at this as well if you did not do it. this was just meant as a feedback and not a negative comment in any way.
They're normal monsters no one really cares
The actual list would be lokking for the absolutely worst combination of type,level and atribute, and put the 10 normal monster whit the least stats. It would also be boring as heck.
I was certain a card like Frog the Jam would be on the list. A monster that is explicitly called out as not eligible on Frog support cards.
That's so dumb too a normal monster boosted frog deck would make it really interesting. Frogs are such a fun deck
and then they renamed the card aswell... so strange i dont think it would be game breaking to just leave it as is.
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Yea would have made a better #10 than Ojamas sine they totaly useless until u get the head
It's an exception due to being a gimmick card used to win a duel instantly.
I have a decent win streak that got me (so far) to Bronze 5 in Yugioh Duel Links. It is a Blue Eyes Hieratic Deck that would probably lose in the real world. It has 2 of the Hieratic Seal of the Sun Dragon Overlord that helps me get out my Heliopis or other better monsters. It is also a good card to special summon target with the Hieratic monsters
Alone yes ojama's are pointless to use, but like you said it's got so much support, and Chazz mostly use them as bait, or as an easier way to tribute summon!! I really wish more support comes out for ojama's, as Chazz is one of my favorite characters
Ojamas: Sure, they're individually weak. Their archetype can do some really crazy stuff, though.
Hieratic Seal: having played Hieratics in Duel Link, having a level 8 dragon-type vanilla is kind of important for their plays. That being said, I preferred running them with ol' Blue-Eyes rather than Seal.
Flying Fish: If this had been released in the Synchro era I would have assumed it existed specifically for Synchro plays off of cards that float low-attack monsters. But this was released all the way back in freakin' Labyrinth of Nightmare. That's freakin' Android Format.
Soitsu and Aitsu: These guys solely exist as a reference to _Sexy Parodius,_ another Konami game.
I really liked Ansatsu. Even though it was a bad card.
idk about the real life sets but i noticed in duel links each new set will have useless 400 attack point mosnters. same with the duelist decks that you get when you unlock new duelists. thats why i quit duel links. constant power creep and half the cards they give you are useless.
Back then i didn't know what effects were and whenever i drew flying fish i would make myself win the duel
I stopped playing Yu-Gi-Oh roughly when Pendulum Monsters were released, have never played competitively or even online, so I have no real idea of how people play the game outside of my person friend group. This makes these videos really interesting.
I did, however, have a Hieratic Deck (with Galaxy Eyes Photon Dragon and some of its Xyz variants, which probably wasn't good but it worked in my ultra-casual setting.)
I never had a copy of Inferno Reckless Summon to play, even if that idea actually sounds kind of cool in the deck, but I just shoved three Blue-Eyes into the deck instead of the Seals.
The vast majority of the effects just refer to Normal Dragon monsters and set the card's stats to 0, so it's an equally valid target, while at least being theoretically useful if I can put it on the board through other means than Hieratic Dragon effects.
Ojama should not be on this list - they are too pure for this. But, then again, this is coming from the one that had a mildly successful Ojama deck before Konami nuked everything with Master Rule 4 so, maybe I'm a bit biased. But, they are a lot more fun than you give them credit for. There's just... so much you can do.
Mystical elf is my all time favourite normal monster tbh but she was the best in dualist of the Rose's SHE WAS AMAZING
Giant. Turtle. Who. Feeds. On Flames.
Mah boi Tyhone #2 making a cameo, he was my first high level monster I ever owned from my very first pack ever back in the day and thus he will always remain a treasure of mine along with Electric Snake my very first card I ever pulled.
“I’ll be looking for monsters that do not combo well with normal monster support”
Number 10: Ojama
*hypocrit 100*
THANK YOU duel logs for bringing up the old school vanillas in this list, the don't get enough love.
Somebody needs to invent a Lightning Congor OTK now.
And when you see ojamas in the thumbnail and in the video you know hes lost to ojama otk's
Boo Koo is one of my favs
Funny enough the new impcantation monster (in soul fusion I think) looks like an omage to boo koo
Now I came from a foreign background so I'm not sure what the name is, but the little guys on paper planes are based on characters from konami's other popular scroll shooting game.
The game featured minor adult content so it was popular, the blue paper plane guy was an extra popular character due to his unique outfit.
Never clicked faster on a video.
Ancient jar was my go to fusion in Yugioh Forbidden Memories. Hello twin headed thunder dragon
What about Bolt Escargot?
OCG-only, less than 1400 attack allows for Inferno Reckless Summon, and he wasn't half bad in Forbidden Memories, the best PS1 Yugioh game.
LEAVE. THE. OJAMA. BROTHERS. ALONE. OR. I'LL. RUIN. YOUR. LIFE.
You made mistake at 10 those 3 are very deadly when used by right player and hath a lot support cards
My first ever cards I got as a kid was a Labyrinth of Nightmare pack my mom got me. In that one pack I had both a Lightning Conger and a secret rare Gemini Elf on my first ever booster lol
2:30 the lion sleeps tonight...
Ojamas can be good in ABC Dragon Buster decks, with that banishing potential and all. Probably will be better in MR4/20 (MR5 to some people) with the possibility of fusion spamming. Hopefully we see a new Ojama support wave - Ojama Lime, Ojama Purple, Winged Ojama etc. from the Ojama Village art. Then we'll see who is the true king. The true OJAMA KING.
Also Ojama King has some busted lockdown shenanigans in Duel Links, which says very little.
Man I’m loving the top ten vids 🖤
Honestly i havent played yuhioh since 2012 but your videos are pretty entertaining
dude ojama lockdown is op your list is bad do your research before putting it on a bad normal monster list
The worst level 5 normal monster would have to be Spike Seadra. It's a Sea Serpent type with 1600 attack and 1300 defense. Haven't seen much support for Sea Serpent compared to Fiends.
Have you heard of my friend Ojama Red? When it’s normal summoned, it dumps all of your ojamas from your hand onto the field. Combo that with Tri-Wight
I won my first tournament with skull servant, as a joke, I got him over 4000atk and beat a blue eyes deck to claim victory... ahh the good old days when 1 duel would take 15min
Ojamas are my fav cards there so funny and I loved seeing them in yugioh gx
Interestingly, lightning conga was kind of good in YGO: The Sacred Cards (gba game), because opponents would always attack face down defence monsters, and with the deck restrictions and low cost to put into your deck, and your opponents really awful decks, you could set up a good play or two with it, leaving the opponent with only one weak attack position monster on the field.
But yeah, apart from badly programmed video games from 2002(?) I don't really see a use for it lol
Insta Dislike for having this title topic and Ojamas in the list..... Not even trolling, nope
I wish youtube still have dislike
It still has, below the video lol
What? Why? The ojama deck is good and the og trio is mandatory for the deck, but the monsters themselves are ass
@@KingOfDarknessAndEvil they're supossed to be that way, in this game there's simply more than broken expensive cards and hot new summon mechanics, there's also support and knowing what to do with everything you have... even vanillas 👑
@@VixXstazosJOB True, however because of that I think it's not wrong for him to put them on the list. It's like he made a list titled "top 10 hot things on Earth" and put fire on it or something
4:09 No, no it can't. Bahamut Shark requires 2 level 4 WATER monsters for material, Flying Fish is WIND.
Who else recognizes all the monster in the thumbnail
I can't agree with your number 10 pick. Ojama's can be fun to play. Their support makes a pretty neat God engine; which no one ever really saw coming. Well not usually. I like to run them with The Creator as well. To each their own I guess. Good video non the less.