The CUT Stages of Super Smash Bros Ultimate
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ม.ค. 2023
- Super smash bros ultimate is known for having every character in super smash bros history. However, one thing that ultimate does not have every of is the stages. Throughout the super smash bros series there have been 17 stages to not make it to ssbu. Today I’m going to take a look at all 17 of these cut stages and also put them on a tier list in terms of how much I want them back. So join me as we look at smash 64, melee, brawl, 3DS, and wiiu to find the cut stages of super smash bros ultimate!
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Kinda surprised you didn't slander Rosalina lol
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0:07
The fact that rainbow road hasn’t returned but venom has is a crime in itself
Same with pac maze and we got crappy pac-land....
Nah, that Mario Bros. returned over Rainbow Road
@@SonicTheCutehog that mushroomy kingdom returned…
@@zanmolecules4105 It was in 3DS. Mario Bros. wasn't in either version of Smash 4, so they had to go out of their way to bring it back from Brawl.
@@SonicTheCutehog ah, I actually didn’t know Mario Bros wasn’t in smash 4
Something I never understood with Pictochat is why they didn't combine the drawings from 1 & 2 into a Pictochat X like with Flat Zone (they have the same layouts, but the drawing hazards are different between the 2)
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Rainbow Road and Pokéfloats being gone is still an international tragedy.
Like Waluigi, Paper Mario, SpongeBob, or Ashley not being in or the fact that we don't have another Sonic character
@@user-ro8jc6lh4x as much as I adore SpongeBob, surely you’re joking?
@@DraftyDaftyHubertOHare NO, SpongeBob has lots of game they could make a move set from, plus the first SpongeBob game was on Gameboy Color so he could be in.
@@user-ro8jc6lh4x He couldn’t tho, Sakurai stated multiple times that a character must originate from a game to be in Smash.
7:35 I think they removed it because one of the pokémons (Squirtle) that were in the stage ended up becoming a fighter, but they could simply exchange it for Wartortle that uses almost the same model or simply any other pokémon
Bit of a weak reason ngl.
@@Chaotic_Overlord Yeah i agree but it's the only thing that makes any sense to me
I would think they'd update it so that the Pokemon have like woven/stitched together textures so that they look like actual floats rather than just giant floating Pokemon.
So it'd be equivalent to the fact that Palutena has a statue of herself on a stage, or... some other example.
Also multiple Pokémon of the same species can coexist. They're being dumb.
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I don't think that was really their reason anyway, it was just a janky quickly made stage that didn't actually represent anything from actual Pokemon games.
Though they could of made it look nice, it'd be cool to have "Everyone is here!" and "Everywhere is here!"
They weren't very far from doing that, but they did *a lot* already.
"Everyone is Everywhere!"
I would say Poké Floats have several reasons to be cut. Firstly, it is not based on anything, which kinda hurts it. In fact, the whole floats thing was just added in the localisation, the Japanese name translates to "Pokémon Subspace". All the models are also ripped straight from Pokémon Stadium, so the only reason the stage exists is probably because some overworked intern dreamt up the image of reused assets drifting through the aether. The reuse also means that they would have to spend much more time on the remake, since standards for stage models have gone up, and standards for Pokémon models have gone down. Additionally. I don't think the developers look back very fondly upon the creation of the stage, viewing it as just another result of Melee's 13 month development.
Pokéfloats rocks though and I'd love to see a spiritual successor appear
EDIT: Perhaps Rainbow Road was also created through asset reuse, since the poor resolution of the 3DS would mask it? There are some differences, like removing ramps and making the road thicker, but they could easily have been made in like a day or two. If it was asset reuse, remaking it for Ultimate would take much longer than the time used to make the original.
I also think that PokeFloats would have been difficult to update. The layout is entirely based on the Pokemon models from Stadium. However, many of these Pokemon have undergone small design changes both in their models and official artwork, which means the Pokemon dont match the original stage layout anymore.
Additionally, the way the stage layout matched with the Pokemon models was pretty wonky to begin with. Even in the original version, a lot of Pokemon body parts dodnt have anx collision, which is kind of a no-go for stage design.
I fully agree with this. This could be also likely been at the request from the Pokémon Company or even Sakurai himself of not wanting Poké Floats back due to it lack of any origin.
If we were to have gotten Sprout Tower as originally intended, that stage probably have a higher chance in coming into Ultimate in comparison.
It would have been cool to see a Poke Floats 2 with Pokemon from all 8 generations, but yeah, if they didn't want to remake the original, they definitely would not want to create a new one.
Also imo 3DS Rainbow Road was probably cut in favor of porting MK8 Mario Circuit from the Wii U version. They have the exact same gimmick just with a different racetrack and the MK8 stage was likely easier to port over. Also MK8 is just slightly more unique since it has the anti-gravity feature, meaning more opportunities for platforms and Shy Guy racers are coming at you from literally all directions.
But yeah, I would definitely love for Pac-Maze, Rainbow Road, and Poke Floats to all return.
I dunno if it would be that hard to recreate Pokefloats with current 3D models that would do more than suffice. Though honestly, I don't even see anything wrong with keeping the old Stadium models if they did bring it back, the less they look like real creatures, the better it works as a stage aesthetic instead.
Thanks for typing that all out so I didn’t have to. Though I will say, I’ve heard that it did take a very long time to develop, and I don’t think the devs thought it was worth it.
Also, why would asset reuse matter? They would have to remake it regardless.
9:24 Gotta correct you on this, it’s actually Pictochat 2 with *different* features. While there are a few shared drawings between the two stages, they actually both mostly comprise of unique layouts that are exclusive to each version. That at least bumps it up to a C for me, though I think I’d prefer they give us a Pictochat X instead, with layouts from both like they did with the 2 Flat Zones.
Edit: just checked to make sure I didn’t say something wrong, turns out they actually don’t share any layouts. Not only that, Pictochat 1 actually has 1 *more* layout than Pictochat 2 (not counting the background drawing in 2’s omega form). We’ve been gypped.
I was about to say! I have always prefered the original Pictochat to Pictochat 2 as the layouts felt a bit less intrusive
Exactly what I was thinking
I was going to say that I’m surprised they didn’t do “PictoChat X” that encompassed all designs into one stage. That makes sense with Flat Zone and would have made the older editions of those stages obsolete.
The one aspect that I wished was talked about regarding Sector Z is that it is the absolute largest stage in the game (large for Smash 64 standards). This really made it a unique experience to fight on and is the biggest difference between it and Corneria
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Seriously. It was one of my most favorite Smash 64 stages because of its side, and I _much_ prefer it over the much tinier Corneria version.
The only issue I could potentially see is that there might be some characters (say Little Mac) that could quite clear the top of that one vertical wing when trying to escape from the engine side. But then they could easily add a permanent Arwing flying along in that area to act as a stepping stool of sorts for those characters.
I still can't believe Pac Maze didn't get in but Pac Land did. Like, between the awful autoscrolling MS Paint stage and the stage that's a reference to the thing that put Pac-Man on the map *and* was fun to play on, the choice should've been obvious.
Pac-Land returning over Pac-Maze is the worst outcome
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14:35
The reason the stage got cut is that it has dynamic rendering depending on where the characters are standing. Notice the floor "sinks in" where the characters stand.
This wouldn't work in 8 player smash or stage morph without massive frame slowdowns.
I think they should have just disabled that feature if the player count goes over 4 (or stage morph is on)
Yeah they prob didn’t want to make any stage exceptions in ultimate. So any limitations would cause them to cut it.
@@Dabomb-xy4jwwhich is weird, because some stuff is still removed in the 8-player versions of stages in Ultimate
I disagree with your ranking on PictoChat. I think they should've gone the "Flat Zone X" route with the PictoChat stages. PictoChat was introduced in Brawl and got its sequel in Smash 4, so in my opinion, I think it would've been cool if they combined them into "PictoChat X" for Ultimate.
The loss of Pac Maze is extremely tragic considering it’s something so intrinsically connected to Pac-Man
I have a theory on why Pokefloats may not have returned. In melee Pokefloats was only included because they essentially ran out of time. We know the original concept for the second Pokemon stage was Sprout Tower. And since this stage is just slightly improved models from Pokemon Stadium (the N64 game), which would be easier to produce than making an entire level from scratch, I think it's easy to infer this was a last second addition. This desperate reuse of assets to make SOMETHING in the time limit also explains why it's so weird. I wonder if Sakurai had some distaste for the stage because of this. Only including it because it was the only one that could be made in time and disliking its weird rushed nature.
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7:50 Serious props for including the Trophy Tussle stages! They always unjustly get omitted in discussions about Melee's stages. I love those and I have fond memories of using Action Replay back in the day just to goof around on them outside of Event Mode. 😀
9:27 Brawl actually had some really cool bonus stages that I'd love to see return - the versus stages from the Subspace Emissary.
For starters - the Shadow Samus stage looks *so cool!* The Ridley and Bowser stages were also great.
Additionally, the Great Maze clone fights all take place on the same stage but with 31 different platform placement variations (kinda like the Wii Fit Studio), and it would have been a great and unique stage to have had available to choose from, as it doesn't have walk-offs like WFS does. As Subspace has such a unique and ethereal aesthetic, it would have been so cool to see it recreated in HD.
Unrelated to the Subspace stages though, I'd honestly love to see every instalment's Battlefield and Final Destination available in a future game. Melee's Battlefield and Final Destination are just so iconic, it would be so awesome to play on them in the next game!
Similar note to seeing old Final Destinations, I would love to see Tabuu's stage return.
The wooly world stage was probably cut because of Yoshi's crafted world being worked on.
Also, next "cut" thing should include unused things, as they were cut
Using this logic, all stages that aren’t from switch games should have been cut
@@hiilikepizza3197 they gave yoshi a crafted world skin, I don't think they wanted to combine crafted and woolly world
@@ADudeWithAChannel using that logic regular link shouldn’t be allowed on pirate ship or spirit train
@@hiilikepizza3197 Shut up
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0:52 Planet Zebes
1:44 Sector Z
2:37 Meta Crystal
3:20 Mushroom Kingdom
4:29 Mute City
5:37 Icicle Mountain
6:38 Pokéfloats
7:40 Flat Zone
7:48 Goomba, Enzai, And Majora’s Mask
8:27 Rumble Falls
9:05 Flat Zone 2
9:22 Pictochat
9:44 Rainbow Road
10:44 Pac-Maze
12:24 Jungle Hijinx
13:17 Pyro Sphere
13:48 Wooly World
14:45 Orbital Gate Assault
15:40 Miiverse
Extra Time Stamps
2:23 The Last Wish For Meta Crystal
3:30 🤓
3:40 🤓😵
5:05 He’s Goin Over That Cliff!
6:54 Death Stare!
8:34 Annoying Orange?!
10:33 Rainbow Road Playlist
11:26 Pac-Maze Is Lost Media!
16:05 Oh No.
16:22 MR. BEAST!
They probably cut out Pokéfloats because they couldn’t find a way to give it Battlefield and Omega versions, maybe they could have had Ditto platforms for those?
could've used some of the flatter pokemon platforms like unown or onix for the stage with the other pokefloats in the background
really, they couldve just made a generic grassy main platform with maybe some small clouds as other platforms, (or unown? 🤔) and just had the pokemon in the background.
it would make it a pretty boring looking battlefield but it would be much better than not having the stage at all.
Avalugg float? Maybe with it's head turned to the side or something idk
Oh, I have an idea for Battlefield Poké Float.
It would be a front facing Venusaur, with his head acting as the main stage, the flower as the top platform, and two leaves as the side platforms, and the other Pokémon float in the background. Then for the omega variance you Just make the flower and leaves part of the background, and you're done
A squirtle shell would be cool, too.
@@jpreaux76 don't really know how to make the platforms, but yeah, It wouldn't be that bad
I think it would be funny to have a Ditto in the shape of the platform! Just a purple blob with a little smiley face
Avalugg as the omega form platform would be hilarious
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Ok, that would be fun. Maybe in the Battlefield form the platforms could be bergmites!
14:46 Here’s a fun fact about this stage: If you choose this stage while pressing ZL or ZR while Fox and Falco *AREN’T* in the match, there would have a special Easter Egg with the Star Fox team. For some reasons, only Fox, Peppy, Falco and Slippy appear in the dialogues, which is very weird, because in the original mission, the Star Wolf Team and Krystal also help Fox and the others. Actually, there’s no Wolfen in the stage.
The fact the rainbow road isn't in ultimate still confuses me, it would fit PERFECTLY
also I'm glad I'm not the only one who is a fan of Meta Crystal (the metal mario stage)
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You actually forgot 2 stages: Mushroomy Kingdom’s 1-2 version, and the Black and White version of Dreamland GB
Dream Land GB had a black & white version??? Ive played smash 3ds for years without seeing it...
Oh it's just a trick that i never knew cool
I mean, I wouldn’t exactly consider the latter a different stage, because it literally functions exactly the same, but with different colours
I really liked Poke Floats, too. The various Pokemon floats added a unique aesthetic that set it apart from other sidescrolling stages.
Mute City & Rainbow Road I suspect got cut because they would have taken more work. They clearly put a lot of lavish attention into updating all the old stages, but I think traveling stages, one from a 3DS game and one from a Gamecube game, required more work over all. The slight touch ups that the Wii U provided stages like Port Town Aero Dive at least had slightly more to work up from.
If Tour (or 8DX's DLC) had been out, which gave the course refreshed visuals and geometry, they probably would have brought Rainbow Road 3DS back at least
Well done covering these cut stages. I think you're right about the redundancy factor playing into why most of these stages didn't have a return.
I think the best explanation for why PokeFloats (Pokemon Subspace) didn't make a return was it was just a lazily created stage. Models from N64 Pokemon Stadium floating around is just... not the most cohesive stage experience out there. Especially compared to what was supposed to be on that slot originally: Sprout Tower.
Me buying smash ultimate in 2019: "oh boy i cant wait to play on my favorite retro map from the 3ds, Rainbow Road!!"
I have a question, what would you rate for mushroomy kingdom 1-2 to come back?
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7:20 I think the reason was the models of the 'mon. If I'm not mistaken, the models of the Pokémon are from Stadium (or one of the games in gc) and Let's Go released November 2018, si they didn't have the models. Now, why they couldn't use the 3ds models seeing as some of the stages from 3ds were ported over from SM4SH is beyond me
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The Ridley from Other M isn’t even the same Ridley from Super Metroid (his Smash design), it’s a clone. They could have absolutely had Pyrosphere .
The fact that we could have gotten a Kirby's Epic Yarn stage and it was replaced by Wooly World, which didn't even make a return bothers me so much. The Kirby stage also became The Great Cave Offensive which lots of people hate
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I highly agree, GCO is such a drag to play on, something from Kirby Return to Dreamland would've been a lot better.
14:17 I think it was cut because of crafted world being made during ultimates release and I still miss black yoshi because of the promotion. that’s the best reason I can think of
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the death whistle during the metal mario joke was peak and reminded me why I watch your videos
What was that awkward silence after the miiverse part wad that intended lol. Anyway this was a great vid rho and I agree with all your picks I want pokefloats to come back the most since its such a fun and goofy stage. Anyway great vid and keep up the good work👍
(1:30) There are so many other similar stages, so having another based on Metroid would be fair to include
Have you done cut Bosses yet? Would have been cool to see a lot of the cut bosses return for Ultimate’s classic mode. *cough cough Rayquaza cough*
You forgot Mushroomy Kingdom 1-2 from Brawl.
I want that one back. I may be the only one, but *I want it back.*
I genuinely love the MrBeast meme. It’s the first meme I’ve really enjoyed in years.
13:04 or they could make it so when it's transforming, you just get shot back to the front.
2:23 the whistle 💀 this channel is the best
7:36 I think it was cut because it used the Pokémon Stadium models, and I don’t think they have access to those anymore
Rainbow Road was cut for similar reasons I think
Rainbow Road was cut from Ultimate because of Mario Circuit. On top of that, 3DS Rainbow Road wasn’t in 8 Deluxe at the time. So basically, everything you said about Mute City and Port Town applies to Rainbow Road and Mario Circuit
Mario Circuit feels so redundant, it's so similar to Figure 8 Circuit, but something unique like Rainbow Road gets cut.
@@duebfofnFigure 8 Circuit remains in one place while Mario Circuit is a traveling stage, just like Rainbow Road
Plus, they kinda need to promote Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
@@Novum228 I meant in aesthetic, lmao. But you're right, if anything, include all three, they're all iconic.
5:17-5:37 I used to be cool with playing on Mute City SNES, but then I discovered you can actually fall through the road while playing. Because of that, it's my second least favorite stage in Smash Ultimate
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Ay yo I love that Mr. Beast meme great job man
2:23 Hehe nice the Wolf Whistle from Puss in Boots: The Last Wish. What are your thoughts on that movie if you’ve seen it?
It may already be mentioned, but Mushroomy Kingdom from Brawl has a secondary layout that was cut when it returned in 3DS, and it was not reintroduced in Ultimate.
Also I unironically love Rumble Falls.
I feel smash ultimate had some missed potential. They should’ve done stage DLC and alternate consume DLC
Alternate costume DLC would have been really cool. They kinda did stage DLC though, as some characters come with a stage (Byleth and Gareg Mach for example), but I get what you mean.
For Jungle Hijinx, they could’ve just had the bg fighters be instantly be put into barrels and launched back into the foreground before it transforms.
Besides, they got 8-player smash to work for all levels so none would be unavailable, so I don’t think they won’t do the same with Jungle Hijinx.
I think this is another case of the devs not having enough time, so it would be easier porting a different, simpler stage, instead of adding this small fix.
Or just have the background fall apart before the transformation, which is already a feature of the stage, as shown in the video.
@@Liggliluff that could also work
@@Liggliluff We still have to have a way for the fighters to get back on stage without unfairly KOing them; but still it’s a good idea.
Hey can you talk about what kind of mii fighter variants you would add? Mine would be a heavyweight and animal types
The cut stage I want back the most is...
Melee's Final Destination. Iconic and super nostalgic. Think of how hype that would be!
(The new one really just isn't the same at all, imo)
...OK but actually it's probably Melee's Mute City. Also because nostalgia. But no one talks about Melee FD or Brawl FD or Melee Battlefield, and I think they're worth bringing up. With the new Battlefield and Omega modes, having cool or nostalgic backgrounds really makes a difference in my opinion.
I think the reason rainbow road didn't come over was because it was directly ripped from Mario kart 7, and they didn't want to remake the entire stage in HD just for ultimate.
Of course, now that it's in the MK8D dlc, it has a good chance of returning in the future
Sector Z is better than Corneria because it’s a good bit bigger and thus feels more like you’re _actually_ fighting in the Great Fox. It’s so small in the Corneria version that it doesn’t feel like that at all unless you only have like Bowser and Ridley fighting as then you can just imagine them being closer to their canonical size.
Could you do a video on all of the cut modes from smash ultimate or Mario kart 8
What about the underground level of Mushroomy Kingdom? Is it playable in Ultimate? I have not been able to get it from the fair amount of times I played on that stage.
Great video, solid tier list, though you did miss one stage ... kinda. Mushroomy Kingdom 1-2 never made it beyond Brawl. When MK returned in Smash 3DS and Ultimate, only 1-1 made the cut. I preferred the underground aesthetic to the desert above, but the layout felt too claustrophobic.
Oh- since you covered boss stages and event stages I thought you would cover Tabuu stage and Subspace from Brawl
I hate the fact that 3ds rainbow road was cut from ultimate but for some reason the music is in ultimate
The Woolly World stage was made near the end of development of Smash for Wii U as a method of promotion for Yoshi's Woolly World since it was coming out a few months after Smash for Wii U.
13:05, and idea I have is maybe push all the players into the foreground or a giant cannon to spawn, an once everyone is blasted to the foreground, then morph
This might be an idea you already did but idk, I think it would be cool if you did a Level by Level based on the non-Mario based tracks in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Good video btw, cut content always interested me
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I love/hate vertical scroller-stages. On one hand they bring a lot more variety and longevity to the game, on the other hand they move too fast which can feel annoying and unfair at times. Make them slower and lengthen the time the stage stands still to make it less stressful.
What I miss the most in ultimate are the scroller stages, mute city and the target practice gamemodes.
I think the reason why rainbow Road and pac-maze were cut, because there wasn’t enough development time; so they went for the smash 4 equivalents, as porting them would be easier; cause smash 4 on Wii U is more like ultimate.
the stage transition feature is why the vertical scrolling stages were cut iirc; the main issue was that trying to reposition players during the transition was a mess.
as for pokefloats, while the stage isn't actually a vertical scroller (as is commonly claimed) it was pretty obviously rushed in at the last minute. seriously, regardless of how much you like it, it is just pokemon models floating in a void. it's most likely that sakurai and co. simply didn't think it was worth bringing back.
Who noticed World 1-2 of Mushroomy Kingdom and the Greyscale easter egg of Dream Land GB was also absent?
Sector Z was interesting because of its massive size. It’s way bigger than Corneria, so it would have worked well with 8 players and such.
Jungle Hijinxs could be worked around simply by making all charachters in the background get launched by a randomly appearing barrel as well the second the stage morphs honestly, wouldn't look great but easy solution. It's so unique it's really sad it got cut. Completely agree with the list btw, but my guess is some of the strangest cuts like Woolly World happened simply because of time constraints. For Sector Z make it an alternate skin of corneria like Mushroomy Kingdom could work as well, no need to be its own separate stage. Hell, change the name of the stage to "Great Fox", and simply make it change randomly between all the various levels of StarFox 64, that would be cool
Really wish all the stages returned. Every stage can be fun, even the janky auto scrollers.
For the pokefloats cut stage, the battlefield and omega forms should be unowns spelling out battlefield and omega
Not you IGNORING Tabuu's stage in brawl. I want it back.
I think odyssey ranking all the music discs would be perfect for his channel and bring Minecraft into his channel more
11:46 the sad part is not even Super Smash Flash 2 thought of this
It’s a shame you didn’t cover Subspace Emissary’s final boss stage with Tabuu! That was cool and sadly forgotten
@OdysseyCentral. You’ve been reported.
Yeahh!! And there was also a Subspace stage itself for the corrupted characters
Woolly World was likely cut because of the unique physics on the ground. The felt sinks and reacts to characters walking on it. Seems like a minor thing but could be a lot of programming. Stage likely wouldn't have worked in eight player smash because of that. Could have gotten ride of that gimmick in 8 player Smash but maybe that either wasn't worth the effort or the team didn't want to lose that element.
Beyond that, Rainbow Road was made by copy pasting assets from Mario Kart 7. Can't do that for Ultimate and rebuilding that all from scratch was likely too much work, especially since other stages have a similar gimmick layout.
Poke Floats was a last minute Melee addition. Sprout Tower was the planned second Pokemon stage but the game was rushed and the stage couldn't be finished, so the team took a generic sky and slapped some Pokemon Stadium models on it. The devs probably don't think highly of it for that reason, and view it as a symptom of cut corners and that it would have no place among other polished stages.
Meanwhile 75m and Hanenbow returned.
They could’ve brought back one or 2 old stages per dlc fighter pack which would’ve been a great way to bring them back.
i dont get why at all those 3 s tier stages were cut from this game. because with the rainbow road stage they could have done something similar to the mario circuit stage, with the pokemon stage they could have just used different pokemon or replace some of them and with the pac man stage they could have just put in the game.
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Also we can say that the different versions of battlefield and final destination of Melee, Brawl and wii u/3ds are cut stages, also the 8 players of wii u battlefield is a cut stage
@@OdysseyCentral. OMG you think that i am stupid, you are a false account seriously you are a fucking stupid person, GO F3CK YOURSELF
You forgot every Final Destination and Battlefield in the past games, they’re clearly different from the stages we have now!
I know it would be dumb to add in, but what about Hole, Bath, and Maze from Brawl would they count as stages?
a way the background mechanic could work with stage morph is forcing you out of it right when its about to morph so everyone is in the foreground, who ever is in the background falls to their death
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video idea: cut enemies from Mario games. Enemies that only appeared in a few Mario games but haven’t appeared since, and what ones you’d love to see come back and what ones you don’t really care about
Great video, but I heavily disagree with your thoughts on Pictochat 1. It had completely different drawings and I honestly prefer them. They were overall less chaotic but still fun.
Brawl has no bonus stages? What about the non-scrolling stages in subspace emissary?
I think Poke Floats and Wooly World were cut similarily either because of the awkward platform designs or because they both include vertical auto scrolling similar to Icicle Mountain and Rumble Falls. As for Rainbow Road, I'm guessing since Mario Circuit from the Wii U had the same gimmick as this, they didn't feel like putting two Mario Kart stages that felt similar.
There's no rainbow road. They left out the most iconic mario kart track. when they already made the stage. and it was based off of the best rainbow road. This is criminal
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I'd like to see a renewed take on Pokefloats that includes a wider pick of Pokemon from the series instead of just gen 1 and 2. The idea of the stage is delightfully memey and it's sad it never came back.
You missed Mushroomy Kingdom 1-2
I think PokeFloats was cut because the Pokemon, Squirtle and Venusaur, are kind of fighters in the game. Squirtle is, but for Venusaur, Ivysaur, it’s pre-evolved form, is one, so yeah
Poke floats being cut I think has to do with the whole stage morph feature as well
Here's a bonus cut stage from Brawl that you missed: the World 1-2 variant of Mushroomy Kingdom. Since the 1-1 version is in Ultimate though, I guess we can just call this half of a cut stage.
Was about to say this.
I’d actually like for a future game to make a successor to Icicle Mountain. Like, it wouldn’t be an autoscroller, rather it could have a base layout that stays the whole match while platforms slide down from the sky to simulate climbing? Kinda like Umbra Clock Tower?
PictoChat does have a good reason to come back despite PictoChat 2 existing, and it is that both stages hold a completely different set of drawings wich are very unique from each other, so if they won't make a PictoChat X or something, they should bring both stages back
Also Flat Zone has the advantage of being only the one screen with more stuff going on than any other Flat Zone X screen that makes it justifiable to be its own stage, but it is not that necessary or even wanted
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He forgot the 1-2 phase in mushroomy kingdom 2.
I can't believe you didn't include Final Destination and Battlefield from Smash 64 to Smash Wii U
“Does brawl have any bonus stages? No? Moving on”
All the boss arenas and stuff from subspace emissary: 👁👄👁
One cut stage not featured in this video is the 1-2 part of Mushroomy Kingdom. It has not appeared in any game after Brawl.
Odyssey should I get smash ultimate? I’m considering it. I’ve never played any SSB game before it though lol
Yes
If you like video games, yes.
He already said yes to me through discord so this comment is useless now lol
omg I thought the star fox stage in smash 4 was a figment of my imagination holy crap I forgot how cool it was
@@OdysseyCentral..SCAMMER
13:42 could act like Nabbit in Nsmbu where if you are playing as Ridley, then Ridley would not appear as the boss. However if you and your opponents are not Ridley, then Ridley could spawn as the boss
cut extra brawl stages: midair stadium & Tabuu boss fight stage
If I had to guess, the reason Poké Floats was cut is because Squirtle is playable now. It’d look weird to have Squirtle fighting on Squirtle. It’s not a GOOD reason, but it’s probably what the developers were thinking. Similar to Ridley being on Pyrosphere. Surely Alfonzo could have replaced him…