China's Navy can build ships 200 times faster than United States: Fox News and US Navy Intel Report
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- A troubling analysis by US Navy Intelligence reveals that Chinese shipyards have 232 times the production capacity as those serving the American Navy.
The enormous disparity comes from Chinese shipyards having a solidly diversified income stream, through dominant commercial shipbuilding. The US, by contrast, has no real commercial shipbuilding industry.
This feature makes the US shipyards motivated to sell the most expensive and largest warships, and removes incentives to innovate, or to build smaller, faster warships.
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Chinese shipbuilding capacity over 200 times greater than US, Navy intelligence says
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China has the capacity to build PLA combat ships at 200 times the rate that the US can, per leaked US Navy intelligence
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For the good of rest of the world, US navy needs to be smaller and smaller, and stay home.
True.
For the good of the whole world (including the US)
Exactly, like the UK
Haha
lol… well said.
Let me wrap my head around this. For every ship the US builds, China builds 200 ships. The mind boggles.
And 4/5 times more expensive.
This corroborated by the annual steel production per annum by country.
China 1000 million metric tons
USA 80 million metric tons
This includes China commercial ship building capacity. Which can be used for navy ship building.
China has > 50% of world container, oil/ LNG ship building capacity
232😃
Nah, the U.S. is basically Hollywood. It's a big fake propaganda wrapped in shining things. Only the morons inside the U.S. seem to live in delusional land.
Americans were paddling canoes, living in teepees and smoking peace pipes when China was navigating large boats to the east coast of Africa for trading. Get real.... China is a very old civilization.... Civil being the operative word, get it❤😊
America should seriously outsource its naval ship building to China.
No way that can be done due to national security.
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@@chongsewaun930 If so how the heck they let that happen? 200 times? 😂
Don’t worry, US makes up for it in “Exceptialism” LOL
gender restroom too.
u make my day
@@danielli9167or Joe Biden getting his daily reward of ice cream is a marvel to behold.
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“Zheng He's first voyage departed 11 July 1405, from Suzhou and consisted of a fleet of 317 ships holding almost 28,000 crewmen.” Wikipedia. And he was a muslim Admiral.
He isn't Muslim Admiral, he raised(adopted) by Muslim parent. Early age enter services to the kingdom and not many realize Zheng He is eunuch.
😂不是穆斯林海军是华人海军
Zheng he not muslim 😅 zheng he chinese 😂
@@ccbeh9103 I know, the Chinese Navy. But Admiral Zheng Ho is muslim and China does not take race into consideration of who can lead its Navy.
“Zheng He was born into a Muslim family, however, he worshiped Mazu - the patron goddess of sailors and seafarers. During his voyages, Zheng He was building mosques, while spreading the word about Mazu. He played an important role in establishing relationship between China and Muslim countries.”
@@ccbeh9103there is simply too much folklore that confused alot of peoples 😂. In Penang, Malaysia we even have a temple dedicated for Admiral Zheng He and it is called Sam Poh Kong. Our durian is so tasty because Zheng He have running stomach and ran into forest to take dump. Later on, the forest tree bear spiky fruit, it is called Zheng He poop aka durian. Hahahaha
The US doesn't have much of a ship building industry, it isn't even in the top 15.
They had big ship building industry, centered in Portland, Oregon USA, and primed in 1930-50's. By 1980's Portland had been deserted as Japanese had taken over and led globally at that time.
@@agoodchow The US had the biggest ship building industry back WW2.
This is good since it keeps the cost of in house production low
@@agoodchow great, portland is a sh1th0le anyway and the Japanese make better ships anyway (not as good as China, though)
It discovered it doesn't have to build or manufacture anything, by having the world currency reserve, it can just print money out of thin air and buy them. Bigger profits for a lot lesser work for the oligarchs.
Simply put, China is just a better run country. It's more focussed on the right priorities and just getting things done. Its people are free and happy and mind their own business. Stay cool China!
For real. You can say whatever you want about their political system but one thing is for sure: their leaders understood the assignment very very well
Don't worry guy, the US has the Filipinos!
Yeah with 2 cannons from WW2 shooting at the shore of philippine?😂
Filipinos now depends on united snakes. That is dangerous.
l e l
Pinoy cannon fodders just like the Ukrainians.
and zionist aipac
If you are familiar with Chinese history, the Chinese have been building ships since ancient times and most notable was in the Ming Dynasty in the 1400s with the voyages of Admiral Zheng He (A Muslim Chinese and an Eunuch) with hundreds of ships sailing all the way to Africa and back, so this does not come as a surprise! Just a side note, if China wanted to be a Hegemonic Power back then, it could have but never did!
The U$ build to destroy ; the Chinese build to defend.
Zheng He fleet consists of 300 ships and 27.000 mens and not single inch of African land is colonized. The Colombus fleet consists of 3 ships and 90 mens and they colonized the whole American continent, killing almost all the native and enslaved them.
@@hanmi1216Columbus fleet used Chinese technologies for their ships notably the rudder. These Chinese technologies enable Western fleet cross the Atlantic Ocean and gun powder enabled them conquer, colonized and loot around the world
Yes while the Chinese ships did have swordsmen on it. The Chinese mostly filled the ships with goods to trade with
Fact - Watertight compartments (compartmentalized hulls) in ships were a Chinese invention adopted ("stolen") by the West in ship building. Included in this is the stern post rudder and paddle wheel propulsion. The size of their sailing ships was not the only amazing feat in Chinese ship building architecture history.
China has overcapacity in ship building. Capitol Hill in Washington is going to pass a bill telling China to stop building ships. Gina Raimondo is looking to see if China has infringed any US copyright building so many ships. I have it from good sources that Capitol Hill is trying to limit the air Chinese can breathe because some of it has been carried by global air currents from US to China . So it’s patented American air. 😉
The US Congress should, or must, have passed decades ago a statute to ban the sun from passing above China's sky, otherwise, China would gain unfair advantage over the US with the huge solar farms China builds on its land, whereby China acquires tons of green energy from the sun.
ah - American air blown across to China - the old Monsanto GM food trick, eh?
Might this American air have the occasional weather balloon in it?
/s
Raimondo will ban Chinese visitors to the US as she said the Chinese fart is toxic and is a national security risk.
Not just that, the highly touted Zumwalt destroyer was a complete failure, its guns didn't work, engine broke down, cost spiraled out of control, it is canceled now. The LCS (littoral combat ship) was so badly designed that navy ordered them not to venture out of port in stormy weather! Its hauls would crack regularly. The LCS was so bad, yet the government couldn't get out of the contract. So the last batch had to be built then immediately decommissioned! You can't make this stuff up even in bollywood. Finally, the Navy now wants a next gen frigate, they learned their lesson and bought an existing design from the French navy, the FREMM. They were supposed to deliver the 1st one in 2024, except now it is delayed until at least 2030! The next gen DDGX destroyer to replace the ancient Arleigh Burke is slated for 2032! And take a look at the DDGX design pic and then compare it to the current type 55 destroyer from China. Hmm, who is copying whom? What a joke we have become. Time to give up the pretense of a failing empire and work on improving the average citizen's lives.
Australian subs expected in 2040
@@paulmatters2641 Yep, hell, by then we could be living under space alien rule or may be our AI master will bring peace to earth finally LOL
Can’t compete? Do what Trump does best. More sanctions.
It's all just an excuse to channel taxpayer's money to certain industries & political elites.😊
Not zumwatt guns don’t work the shells, costing $1M each are too expensive 😂
Think US frigate is from Italian design.
The beauty of the scenery in Chongqing is mind boggling, as much as is the overcapacity of 200 times 😂😂😂
As of 2023 China had 58 % of the world's shipbuilding capacity. As of this year, Chinese are reporting even higher percentage of ship orders.
Please do not frighten the Americans...They are not used to it..😊😊
China builds world’s largest cruise ships too.
Abosultely. It is about productivity, worker skills, wages, and most importantly, work ethics and moral. No comparison.
Be good.
Unironically this is the United States last century ago lol
US rethinking there global manufacturing Position are a day late and a dollar short !!
You meant $US 35 Trillion?
Don't worry, the US hasn't taken over India yet, so there is an opportunity
Good morning from Malaysia. Always feel great to have your update on the development details info abt China. Very much appreciated & have a pleasant days in China.
The U.S.A. can't make a pair of shoes.
200 times is a crazy number, in any kind of scenario . 😳
Great content. It seems the movie "2012" made the correct prediction that China would be the country to build those arks to save billionaires in a scenario of catastrophic global flooding. The movie was released in 2009.
"2012" probably cannot be shown any more in some countries. There is a scene where an aircraft that everyone now knows is Ukrainian is described as Russian.
This is amazing. Been there then and was totally surprised to hear that prediction 15 years ago. Cant be more precise now.
It's time ro rethink what our priorities are. Fighting wars everywhere will even excelerate US downfall.
War makes money for US unlike China which puts wellbeing of its citizens first.
God's Chosen People of the East for peace and development.
That has never been Chinese thinking and, even as a joke, you should not write that.
Its the Jews who shame the biblical word "Chosen People"....Actions speak louder than Words. Religion is the opium of the people that destroyed a nations. China is the opposite , atheist by nature.
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@@sciagurrato1831I bet you are Chinese 😂
Warships make great targets for missiles…. They only make sense confronting those without proper missiles.
Just shows how much you know about warfare.
Remind me of U.S raptor use 2 missile(cost 550k/each) to blast an air balloon out of sky. PLAN isn't Japanese Imperial Navy where their Yamato sail the sea without air defense.
Where you going to put those missiles? or the missiles grow a pair of legs walking on it's own waiting for command?
@@bbharatillusion4574How much do you know about warfare - then, now & tomorrow ? 🤔
Military strategies & hardware can advance, progress & evolve. Doesn't have to remain static ! What's good WW1 isn't great for WW2 era.
Some countries are fixated on WW2 era encirclement strategies & capital weaponry. Obsolete with today's weaponry.😅
But china has both. Big powerful ships and missiles to match. Soon to patrol the entire pacific and indian ocean for freedom of navigation and to maintain peace on the oceans . For the Atlantic and the Mediterranean the Russians and Iranians can do that part.
The US omnipresent Navy looks like a very expensive hobby.
Are there any data on how much money it cost to maintain an aircraft carrier?
I read the Pentagon was buying toilet paper for $30,000 a roll off other american suppliers. They are all ripping off the tax payer.
@@aceman00ify , So, toilet paper costs a lot more than toilet seats. A few years back I heard toilet seats on the aircarft carrier costs around 8,000 dollars apiece.
@@resnica3557 amazing, I wish they charged more for that, like 80k a piece
$1 billion annual to operate, maintain each aircraft carrier
@@pohmoh3590he probably meant entire service lifecycle cost?
China’s navy has a larger number but its total tonnage is still substantially smaller, this is because it is a defensive navy, not a blue water navy. The US alarmism about being outnumbered is an argument for more funding… as usual.
It's in warships matter the US still has some tonnage advantage, but not in total sea ships. In total tonnage, which includes warships and commercial ships, the Chinese tonnage going to he absolutely overwhelm the US tonnage capacity. And it's only matter of short time, when Chinese warships going to supressed the US warships tonnage.
Yes the Chinese are more interested in protecting shipping/trade routes. And to send ships and planes to ferry its Chinese nationals working/doing business in a country that experiences a sudden internal turmoil. They would be patient and wait for those internal issues to stabilize or wait for the next friendly Government to China
Because war does not make them money
With that said, in event of a war one can easily see the Chinese strategy would be to replace their assets faster than an enemy combatant can replace theirs. A war of attrition
@@MrVitconst building tankers is fairly simple and the us navy is far more dominant today than any navy has ever been
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@@gregwang8628 if you look at the numbers thats just self evident. If you add the navies of american vassals like japan and south korea , australia en europe then yes the chinese are very cautious because they are , of course, better informed than you and the earlier poster. The usn can with just its nuclear attack submarines shut down chinese trade of course massively fucking up the global trade system.
Seriously, the USA military expenses are going to the roof. The funny thing is that a big percentage of all that got wasted and dropped into certain groups of people's pockets and made them very rich.
US politicians are millionaires
That is corruption.
Or in legalized talk: lobbying
China is building a second cruise 🚢 ship larger and heavier than any super carrier. China is waging cost and benefit from building monster size super carriers and not to causing panic to neighboring countries.
Not only 200 times faster but also a lot cheaper than the US can. At least 5-20 times cheaper.
US navy will ask Washington to print more money for those overpriced ships that needs 10x the repair down the road.
That’s the American way Kevin. We always go for the most profitable deal. If we can’t get the deal (most profit margins) we want, we put someone else in charge.
And is there any other way? What are you, a commie? Profit always comes first! It is the American Way! The way ordained from God Himself, don’t you know?
Who exactly in this case? certainly not China
@@TheRealMcCoyAndChipsAhoy I’m referring to the U.S. ship building companies. With U.S. government contracts, that’s both lucrative and sure money. If they can’t get the contracts, they will support whoever will.give them. That’s our congressmen too, very capable folks, especially when their interests are met (campaign coffers).
…more excuses for bigger defense budgets.
and more reason for defence contractor to raise their prices knowing washington will print more money.
but for printing money speed, united snakes is light years ahead of china though
Imagine china making semi submersible drones ... US carriers will be obsolete
The concept is a semi-submersible 'arsenal ship' - basically a huge missile barge with just a bridge and exhaust above the waterline.
@@ZweiZwolf Doesn't matter what you call it. China can make it at 50% price but 3 times faster
China now has almost 60% of global shipbuilding orders - they have massive scale! China is now building the biggest transport ships, plus high complexity LNG and cruise ships. If a war breaks out, China can replace losses 230 times faster, so a war of attrition greatly favors China. China will replace losses and continue fighting, but the US will have to do without, suffering continuous degradation in mission capability.
Go China! Go China! Go China!
Even the usa Navy is buying Italian ships, German ships etc etc 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Your videos are compelling enough to move to china! Shenzhen. probably.
Great sharing.
The most soothing part of your videos is the signoff video, which also proves that you have been traveling all over China.
Thanks for the excellent report on US ship building problems. Janet Yellen said China has over capacity of ship building and the US has under capacity. So how about capacity shoring in the US for ship building ? But the cost is prohibitive as one small bag of bushing can cost US navy US$90000 whereas the it costs only US450 in China hardware store. Many latest electronic auto systems do not work and repair cost is also sky high and takes a long time to fix. The turnaround time for aircraft carrier repair is umpteen months. So serviceable navy ships in the US navy is only half of the total no. When US navy ships spreading around the world leaving a skeleton no, in South China Sea to fight the huge armada of PLA navy and expect to win is a pipe dream. How can you fight long distance naval war at the door step of the giant china and expect to win is a joke.
This problem can be easily solved. The US Congress can pass a bill banning Chinese shipyards from making ships or face sanctions.
China say fuck you than what......?????!!!!!!!!
Not 232 times faster but more.
Credit must be given where it is rightly due. The chinese are good guys practicing the win-win concept since thousands of years ago though it was not known as win-win. Today, it is still win-win for all parties wherever they go, the latest being hungary and serbia. War, genocide, plunder and grabbing territories have never been their motive.
I have seen a newspaper article in a recent Western newspaper citing that China builds 50% of the total new ships nowadays in the world. That is an astonishing statistic. The Chinese gain more knowledge, skills and experience, and build much faster and cheaper. They can outbid any other ship building firms in the world.
Nobody except the US government can afford to use American shipyards, which if wants to serve other customers would reduce their margin. So it is a predicament, have only one customer or reduce profit.
Wow!!
On an aside: i absolutely love how you close the videos with a declaration of the locations
Thank you so much for your job and filosofie 😊
The Chinese are expedient workers. Fast dedicated and efficient. Well done China 👍♥️🇨🇳
The first americans made damn good canoes most of which are more reliable than current aircraft carriers.
From the outset it was a losing proposition. it appears Kevin videos are comin in little bit late for empire.
US can ban other nations ships from using the oceans
About 20 years ago the then UK prime minister Tony Blair, in an initiative with which he was personally associated, banned the entry of foreign wild birds into the UK so as to protect it from bird flu. He also made it illegal to send anyone a computer virus.
Commercial ship building hasn’t been a major industry in the USA for many decades. Since the end of WW2 commercial ship building has always been an entry-level industry for what were emerging industrialized countries such as South Korea, Taiwan and…now…presumably China.
GAME OVER.
Looks like the US has a serious undercapacity problem. 🤣
The US were focusing their study on weed, gender & race
Building a lot more for commercial purposes, not war
How difficult would it be to build for war?
China shipbuilding overcapacity
US only overcapacity in lawyer & politician
I hope anyone listening to this channel as well listens to Lena Petrova on TH-cam who covers more the US aspect, she had a interview with Professor Glenn Diesen about his latest book,he is a regular on the Duran, well worth listening to🤔
Most of Chinese ships for military are modern too - whereas the american navy fleet is a bit “rusty” relics…..No one is denying USA needs ships to DEFEND itself and its country (but NOT to intimidate the rest of the world and start a war whenever it wants to).
No one actually wants to invade the U.S. (unless they are insane having to fight a population armed to the teeth more heavily than any other country). So, the U.S. navy sits idle with nothing to protect. To justify its annual budget from Congress, it need an excuse - any excuse - and so, starting wars and creating conflict zones is a great way to get funding from a compliant Congress, eager to please.
Ship overcapacity
Latest ship production stats:
2022 PRC 44.2% of ships built world-wide
2023 PRC 58.1% of ships built world-wide
Interesting data would be to know how long does it take from keel to commissioning per vessel ?
The usual US defense is that China's Navy is only bigger by numbers and not tonnage. The larger US tonnage comes from the fact that it has a preponderance of aircraft carriers compared to the Chinese. However, the US aircraft carriers are - with one exception, old and at the end of their 50-year operating lifespan. The US cannot afford to replace them, as the new Ford class costs $14 billion each to build. For the cost of a single Ford class, China could easily build 10 aircraft carriers.
As a historical comment (recent and very old). Not long time ago, together with my son's Boy Scouts troop I visited the SS Jeremiah O'Brien, probably the last of the Liberty ships. Quoting Wikipedia "In 1936, the American Merchant Marine Act was passed to subsidize the annual construction of 50 COMMERCIAL MERCHANT VESSELS which could be used in wartime by the United States Navy as naval auxiliaries, crewed by U.S. Merchant Mariners. The number was DOUBLED in 1939 and AGAIN in 1940 to 200 ships a year. American shipyards built 2,710 Liberty ships between 1941 and 1945 (an average of THREE ships every TWO days)" It could be done!🚢🚢
It's over capacity😂
That’s why I said 10 years ago, we are similar to the legacy Soviet Union
Overcapacity!!!
US INTERESTS (NOT PRINCIPAL) PAYMENTS ON ITS DEBT IS ALMOST EQUAL TO THE DEFENSE BUDGET BUT NOBODY SEEMS TO CARE-OUR CHILDREN WHO ARE ALREADY CRUMBLING UNDER STUDENT DEBT WILL HAVE ANOTHER BURDEN TO CARRY
Do you plan on creating a patreon or membership program?
Good afternoon. The day they will master to build MTU, equivalent propulsion there will be no turning back.
Once again, brilliant analysis. The USA brags about its aircraft carriers, but they're more of a liability than an asset. The Chinese know how to sink them (hypersonic anti-ship).
They just figured that out? For years Chinese shipyards have been pumping out navy vessels 3 or 4 at a time.
You are in China, I just recoginized that. Welcome!
China uses smaller ships, so it's not exactly 1:1 comparison.
But even measuring tonnage, China buries the USA.
Smaller ships are more agile and quick unlike large ships that's easily be a target.
Don't worry. The US has 11 big aircraft carriers while China has only three small ones.
Kevin, you should tell all these to Peter Zeihan who still live in the Never-never-land and thinks that Chinese vessel can not sail more than 100 kms of the coast.....
China can build more non aircraft-carrier & 200 x more that’s great cos aircraft carrier is so vulnerable to hypersonic missile as the carrier is large & slow. If China can put the turbine used in the hypersonic missile onto a carrier & propel it, carrier will be more versatile & nifty.
The government allowed and condoned the military industrial complex to consolidate. There is an
incestuous relationship between retired military, pentagon and corporate that allows individuals to move between these groups. Now we have single sources suppliers with no competition. How else do you explain only one shipyard that can build an aircraft carrier at 14+ billion dollars.
It is called money politics and American Dream
imagine with that capacity, what happens when artificial general intelligence is incorporated into the ships.
I read sometimes last year that the Chinese Navy uses AI to design the electrical system of a warship. They finished in one hour what used to take a huge team of electrical engineers one whole year to do.
That means they can at least churn out carriers and DDG biannually. x no of shipyards. At least Twenty ships per year. Building vessel a year.
Total Aegis Arleigh Burke Class Ships 90.
3-4 years there could be more than enough vessel to reach parity. Within PACCOM. zone of command. Taiwan could be reunited at the earliest by 2028, latest by 2030.
US 296 ships spread around the world?
471,000 square miles per ship.😂😂😂
US carriers are 20 - 40 yo, except for 1 new Ford carrier.
US naval shipyards are so busy repairing navy ships, there is hardly room and time to build ships. The US has four naval shipyards and three of the US naval shipyards use Chinese manufactured drydocks. China has 20 large shipyards and 140 drydocks. Maybe the US is better off subcontracting some of the work to Japan or South Korea?
the empire tried to sweet-talk South Korea to build ships in the states. they even contemplate repair ships in India.
@@willengel-vs8ht They have already signed contract with 2 Indian shipyards to repair ships for them. God bless America!😂😂😂
Maybe the US should subcontract some of the military vassels building order to Chinese shipyards.🤭🤭🤭
@@dice138 we know for a fact, that its gonna be bad for ameriKKKans to do this
@@dice138 Good luck. I still remember they sunk one of their submarine which was under repair. They forgot to close the hatch door when diving!
China has advantage in war as she can repair, replace lost warships faster than US.
US is also running out of budget for building warships.
be good
But can you bake a cherry pie?
well the usa keep deindustrial themselves
232 times faster is a misnomer. Their capacity is 232 times. Its not that if the US builds a ship in 232 days, they build it in 1 day. Its that at the end of those 232 days, China has 232 ships while the US has 1 ship.
The end result is the same. Speed and quantity equal.
😂
200 times ? Bring it on says the U.S 😅😅
This reminded me too much of Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto of Imperial Japanese Navy. His acute understanding of the industrial might of the US made him seriously reluctant to go to war with it. American shipbuilding capacity just outperformed the Japanese so significantly. Not to mention Japanese economy and population were a meagre 1/10th and 1/3rd of it respectively. IJN certainly had decisive edge with its omnipotent Kidobutai fleet and Zero fighter planes. That’s still no remedy for huge disparity between it and the US. Let’s just hope modern day US Navy have wise leaders like him rather than naive idiots like: Victoria Nuland 😂.
Why would you want to build war ships when you have thousands of armed container vessels ?
it is about to be faster. with AI, they can accelerate the build by few hundred percent more and with AI in ship training and decision making, they can roll out ship for war at 200% faster
but they r piece of scrap arent they
Chinese Navy can build ships 200 times faster than United States because they produce the most steel on earth.
Give all the steel the Chinese have to the US, and the result will still be the same
@@agamliandy7843 NO, I DON'T THINK SO.
First comment here
2:10 Pound for Pound USN submarines are still better at their game. Qty. Quality both. Same is true for Aegis ships. China has to do much catching up. Type 55 there are total 15 of them. Unless they plan to float more advanced ones in near future , those quantities are not enough. But Chinese have advantage of their own backyard. Always !
China is about asymmetrical warfare, not fighting heads-up. Any war against the US will be in China's backyard, under PLA Rocket Force cover.
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Don't let Uncle Sam wait up. Let him enjoy his arrogance
T'is but a flesh wound!
Nay, 'tis but a scratch. 😁