The NEW Surface Pro + Laptop - First Impressions

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  • Microsoft Surface Laptop 13.8 and 15 and Surface Pro just launched with the Snapdragon X Elite and Snapdragon X Plus chips.
    Also a look at the Asus Vivobook S15 and Lenovo Yoga Slim 7x Snapdragon Laptops
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  • @brianbuckley5204
    @brianbuckley5204 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3843

    Dave PLEASE test the sleep state behaviors. The most infuriating thing about current Windows laptops is the awful sleep states where it force quits all your apps (yes sleep, not hibernate), and then takes 2 minutes to get fully up and running past all the startup processes even on high end machines. Forget battery life and efficiency, I just want a laptop that's ready to go when I open it.

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +333

      my experience is the opposite. On my laptop, current Windows standby is super power-hungry, so much so that the fans keep spinning, whereas on all my previous laptops it consumed little to no power in sleep mode. "It evolves, but backwards" meme is perfect for this.

    • @usipho
      @usipho 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

      ​@@TabalugaDragon mine won't even shut down. If I force it to do so it'll spend up to 10mins booting. So speeding is the only option (and it still consumes around 10% overnight)

    • @marcgtsr
      @marcgtsr 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +113

      This is a huge problem with windows, I even considered buying apple, that's how bad it is.

    • @userre85
      @userre85 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      You have to fiddle with your power settings in control panel. It allows you to set the maximum capacity at which your CPU/SSD/Fans can run on battery and while plugged in.

    • @Ronniezim
      @Ronniezim 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +163

      This really is key. All of my windows machines die if I just close the lid and toss in a bag for a few days.
      My M3 max on the other hand…hadn’t touched in days and battery is essentially exactly where it was last I used it

  • @avocadopictures9706
    @avocadopictures9706 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +982

    Hopefully this is the beginning of quieter Windows laptops that don't blast fans unless they're performing actually heavy tasks.

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

      oh it totally is once software catches up which is really the hard part + the fact of windows itself sucks so bad

    • @jairozamora608
      @jairozamora608 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

      @@JohnSmith-pn2vl No joke, windows 11 being so bad it made me switch to linux and MacOS for my daily driver

    • @elementneon
      @elementneon 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@JohnSmith-pn2vl software will catch up about a year or 2 after the hardware is release, and new hardware has arrived, which the software wont support.

    • @estiennetaylor1260
      @estiennetaylor1260 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@jairozamora608 Lol never happened to me.

    • @josephgood2704
      @josephgood2704 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Most processors in the last several generations have no problem with this. 20 chrome tabs, casting an extended 4k screen playing netflix, youtube on laptop screen, and transferred a 120GB folder at the same time with practically no noise on the last couple generations of U processors or HS processors..
      No actually heavy tasks. But also no blasting of fans at all.

  • @4RILDIGITAL
    @4RILDIGITAL 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +214

    Keeping my fingers crossed for good emulation performance, it's time we got efficient, powerful chips at affordable rates.

    • @Ailidan
      @Ailidan 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      It's absolutely disgusting how Dave subliminally advertises Lenovo.

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Seeing its microsoft, and how windows have sucked on every level on surface devices, I doubt it. They are completly incompetent at vertical integration

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@wile123456It's not that they are incompetent at vertical integration, it's that they can't do vertical integration because they don't control the hardware.

    • @EikottXD
      @EikottXD 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@Ailidanhe literally offered another option that had better specs.

    • @Ailidan
      @Ailidan 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@EikottXD yeah asians for asians

  • @alexanderzhulin3528
    @alexanderzhulin3528 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +656

    Keyboard and pen for $450 is definitely not cheaper than before. Insane price for a keyboard.

    • @insainllama
      @insainllama 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +116

      Can probably thank Apple for that.

    • @Yzyenthusiast
      @Yzyenthusiast 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

      @@insainllamawhat do you mean thank Apple? Does Apple control Microsoft pricing??

    • @shinobusuicide
      @shinobusuicide 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Yzyenthusiastyup, no corporation is our friend. Once Microsoft saw apple could get away with these prices they upped them too

    • @LuisCruz-ns3bt
      @LuisCruz-ns3bt 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +149

      @@Yzyenthusiastinfluence is the better word

    • @Ok_Mountain_8698
      @Ok_Mountain_8698 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +136

      @@YzyenthusiastApple proved that it’s possible and the masses will pay this price

  • @MrCarzo
    @MrCarzo 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +96

    Watching Intel slide into irrelevance because they havent innovated in a decade has been such a wild ride.

    • @Guts48
      @Guts48 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      AMD as well my friend😔 ARM is the way to go I'm so happy x86 is finally dead

    • @shazidulislam9286
      @shazidulislam9286 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@Guts48 x86 won't be dead for desktops.

    • @Guts48
      @Guts48 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@shazidulislam9286 it should be, it's a really old architecture tbh

    • @tinselnathan
      @tinselnathan 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s true! I think The snapdragon is the better choice. Ngl

    • @EikottXD
      @EikottXD 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@Guts48try gaming on arm...

  • @bearcatpanda
    @bearcatpanda 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +619

    I think the biggest challenge for these new Snapdragon X laptops will be the emulation of x86 apps. If Qualcomm can get the emulation to work well, then these laptops could be a game-changer for Windows on ARM.

    • @MathewPanicker1010
      @MathewPanicker1010 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +53

      Wouldn't emulation be an os-side i.e. Microsoft's problem?

    • @OnlyCitrus
      @OnlyCitrus 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

      Windows Emulation is indeed on par and sometimes faster than Apple as tested by Gary. I hope it all goes well.

    • @bradhaines3142
      @bradhaines3142 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      problem is a lot of that is more of a question of windows than arm, but either can screw it up

    • @strawbaria
      @strawbaria 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      Emulation is already not too difficult, more difficult would be handling of all the legacy drivers and whatnot which need more than a "simple translation layer".

    • @HouseOfFunQM
      @HouseOfFunQM 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      Confirmed that the x86 (and x86_64) applications can use ALL cores on this SoC. M1 emulation was good, but could only use two performance cores at once.
      This potentially makes this much better, however Apple Rosetta2 also transposed the Intel instructions to Armv8 at install time, which gave them a massive performance advantage immediately.

  • @GAMERGEBITER
    @GAMERGEBITER 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +130

    1:01
    This would look 100x better if the upper bezel and the side bezels would be the same width

    • @yannpoco
      @yannpoco 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Agreed

    • @flamingrage100
      @flamingrage100 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Camera and mic on top

    • @amirtorhan2762
      @amirtorhan2762 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Would probably need some type of notch for that

    • @iamlorex4786
      @iamlorex4786 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yeah but, than we ll have a black are where camera is located. Windows isnt ready forthat

    • @yannpoco
      @yannpoco 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@flamingrage100 Dell’s top bezel is thinner than Surface side bezels.

  • @joseph2024
    @joseph2024 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +52

    I left windows for the MacBook Air M2, I use that laptop for 2-3 days before charging, have had it since its release, and love it. If widows laptops had done this earlier I’d probably still be with them. Glad to see them finally making a change.

    • @definingslawek4731
      @definingslawek4731 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      How do you get 3 days out of it? Do you only use it for like 1-2 hours per day? Like watch a bit of youtube, write a few emails or something, do some shopping? I have an m3 max mbp and charge it 3 times a day but obviously I'm using a power hungry workflow.

    • @joseph2024
      @joseph2024 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@definingslawek4731 my workloads aren’t heavy, it’s mostly web, zooms, cloud based software and I’m on it 3-4 hours a day for work. Maybe an hour or 2 for non work.

    • @slimerewoods5766
      @slimerewoods5766 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@definingslawek4731 If he only uses it lightly for 4-5 hours a day you can definitely get 2-3 days out of it

    • @retroelectrical
      @retroelectrical 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@definingslawek4731 exactly. Is Joe using the M2 to do light typing? I've never heard of getting three full days of real work on any laptop ever.

    • @frogpetavideo3940
      @frogpetavideo3940 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@retroelectrical i have an m2 air and im a full time highschool student in a school that exclusively does digital work. I use my laptop 5-8 hours a day and charge it once every 2-4 days. i never get below 20 percent EVER

  • @Shin_Kil
    @Shin_Kil 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +353

    My first TH-cam subscription was to Dave2D around 8 years ago, and I am more amazed at how he hasn't aged at all since I first started watching his videos.

    • @dandansfu
      @dandansfu 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

      Asian gene + men usually age better + fame + wealth + taking care of ur self

    • @turolretar
      @turolretar 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      + L + ratio

    • @AltraHapi
      @AltraHapi 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      ​@dandansfu how does fame not make you age?

    • @Scruffed
      @Scruffed 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@AltraHapiHe clearly didn't see Macaulay Culkin.

    • @dandansfu
      @dandansfu 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@AltraHapi unless you act like crazy or too political…etc
      Usually famous ppl get better treatment when they get recognized
      Even if , say Beyoncé , didn’t even try to let ppl know who she is and walked into a restaurant by herself and ppl recognized her , u think she will get same treatment as us? Even if she didn’t request it
      Unless the owner hates her
      In their day to day life they see ppl smiling , being nice and happy to see them , feel honoured to see them and work with them
      And they constantly get confidence boost comments. Just look at the comments. Always mostly positive comments. And well deserved as he put up amazing , good quality videos
      But for us normal ppl , how often we get praise even if we do an excellent job.
      Again you may have haters , you may be tired time to time of being recognized. For sure fame does can have some impact too but for the most part it’s good
      This combine with wealth, connection ..etc
      Stress and positivity ( lack of rejection , always being treated warmly ..etc)
      All help with delayed aging

  • @harbirsingh7266
    @harbirsingh7266 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    If these ARM chips can emulate x86 as good as they say, the Microsoft Surface would become a better product than the iPad Pro since it'll actually run on a capable desktop OS.

  • @myownhut
    @myownhut 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dave u look healthy now appreciate ur hard work mate I have been following you since launch. All the best for Al your future endeavors 👍

  • @davidodell6232
    @davidodell6232 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always like your vids, especially your b-roll shots are A+.

  • @mop0014
    @mop0014 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +252

    just make the rounded corners a software feature, the oled has good enough black levels to hide them

    • @pratyakshsinha6292
      @pratyakshsinha6292 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      it also compliments the windows 11 apps which have rounded corners.

    • @Entertainment-
      @Entertainment- 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +57

      You would be surprised how many “rounded” screens are just rectangular screens with the pixels disabled and a black rounded border painted inbetween the glass and the screen layer.

    • @Optimistas777
      @Optimistas777 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Entertainment-except iphones

    • @iTzNicholas
      @iTzNicholas 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Round corners is super innovative

    • @zakomentare-xt4vk
      @zakomentare-xt4vk 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@iTzNicholaslol

  • @rafiqmuhamad8251
    @rafiqmuhamad8251 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +389

    Surface as a premium laptop still giving 256 for based model. What a shame in 2024.

    • @IshanKhandelwal
      @IshanKhandelwal 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +152

      Atleast they r giving 16gb base ram not like MBA

    • @adityanair5340
      @adityanair5340 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      @@IshanKhandelwal tbf macos is less demanding than windows

    • @metamon2704
      @metamon2704 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +188

      @@adityanair5340 they are not, it's just what apple tells you.

    • @ArthropodSpidey
      @ArthropodSpidey 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@metamon2704 it is. I'm pretty sure you've never even used macOS and just talking out of your ass.

    • @cgh2467
      @cgh2467 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@metamon2704 Coming from someone who used an 8GB M1 Air it ran far better than any windows laptop I have had with the same memory.

  • @kashmir883
    @kashmir883 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    love the SECRET SCIENTIST dave, i have a sweater with those same characters

  • @asan1050
    @asan1050 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dave! Thanks for posting this video

  • @VaporSprite
    @VaporSprite 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +92

    Microsoft pushing for the ARM transition again... Third time's the charm?

    • @netnomad47
      @netnomad47 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

      They want to catch up with apple

    • @tringuyen7519
      @tringuyen7519 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Snapdragon Elite should be great against the M3 & AMD Hawk-point. But the M4 is already out & AMD is introducing the 12 core Strix-Point in 2 weeks!

    • @adrianstere
      @adrianstere 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tringuyen7519 Amd and Intel are shit. Fan noise and low battery level no matter what products they release. The are light years behind apple and i hope this time Snapdragon Elite X will finally be able to deliver performance with no fan noises and excellent battery life.

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      well now they could just copy apple since they showed how to do it.
      but windows is such a mess, it's way worse than android, it is literally the worst, so the software transition is the hardest part and will take a lot of effort time and money.

    • @vishals7433
      @vishals7433 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@tringuyen7519highly doubt amd and intel can catch up with efficiency and power per watt; anymore.
      If these keeps on x86 will be nearly dead in future. M4 litreally killed best intel ever in single core with much less power and probably cost cheaper to apple.
      At this point no reason to use x86 variant except for gaming. The thing is so done for.

  • @AkashSingh-le1gk
    @AkashSingh-le1gk 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I always map that copilot key or whatever it is in previous gens to right ctrl. Makes it more useful for me

    • @ZedDevStuff
      @ZedDevStuff 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      i honestly never use right alt. Would bind it to < if i get a laptop with one considering it's a rare key on laptops (even full size keyboards)

    • @vik1ng313
      @vik1ng313 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How do you remap that key?

  • @tiemji
    @tiemji 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for this recap!

  • @shashankdogra
    @shashankdogra 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    My man killing it with those Uniqlo T shirts lately.

  • @rahulbiswas52303
    @rahulbiswas52303 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +163

    Doesn't matter if it's Intel or AmMD or snapdragon. If you buy asus, warranty will be screwed for ya

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      AMD INTEL NVIDIA they are so dead for so long now, i mean their time was counted with M1 which was like an enternity ago...
      NOBODY will ever want anything from them, and no ai is not gonna save nvidia it will delay their dead for the longest but gpu's actually suck for ai

    • @iamakkkshay
      @iamakkkshay 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@@JohnSmith-pn2vl You are comparing it wrong, Apple uses the latest TSMC 3nm fab on top of ARM architecture to get all the efficiency. When Intel's Fab get better then they will also enjoy a much lower tdp for same performance, also Intel's X86 is constantly getting smart and modular as ARM.

    • @maxrinehart4177
      @maxrinehart4177 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      ​@@JohnSmith-pn2vl GPUs is not used for AI only, nvidia will never die as their product will shift towards another thing that benefits from their massive parallelism cores. gaming then cryptocourncy mining then AI ... etc.

    • @Space97.
      @Space97. 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@JohnSmith-pn2vlfr arm in the future not them. I hate x86 because x86 chips are absolutely terrible for battery life on mobile devices like laptops and that's a understatement 😂

    • @israellewis5484
      @israellewis5484 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@iamakkkshay TSMC 3nm is not actually 3nm, but it's 3.5nmE. Don't be fooled by marketing. Transistors are actually larger than the marketing suggests anyway. Copper wires, and I/O on the silicon are not even going to be anywhere near 3nm. Mostly 28-12nm in size, since I/O performance does not increase as the lithography size decreases.

  • @Entertainment-
    @Entertainment- 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +99

    0:57 The Surface Laptop Studio from 2 years ago had rounded corners

    • @samblack3446
      @samblack3446 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      I use that model daily and the rounded corners in combination with the 3:2 aspect ratio is somehow "easy on the eyes" (if that makes sense). I like it.

    • @anh49
      @anh49 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      Also macbooks haven't had rounded screen corners for "over a decade". They only did that starting with notched macbooks

    • @estiennetaylor1260
      @estiennetaylor1260 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@samblack3446 I'll take 3:2 any day.

    • @sharonb.9128
      @sharonb.9128 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@anh49the 2014 MacBook Air is a decade

    • @jonevansauthor
      @jonevansauthor 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Yes and it's absolutely disgusting to cut off perfectly good screen for no reason. No-one wants this and it's not a selling point, just like notches so your phone can be 2mm shorter aren't.

  • @a07z
    @a07z 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for the update.

  • @AdamConder
    @AdamConder 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +151

    I never thought I'd see a Macbook Air with a windows sticker on it.

    • @p.aradise
      @p.aradise 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

      and they say apple copies lol

    • @LoneWolf-py7ps
      @LoneWolf-py7ps 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      @@p.aradise hahahaha apple sheep talking what a great sight to see

    • @Space97.
      @Space97. 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Bro really hahaha 😅

    • @p.aradise
      @p.aradise 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      @@LoneWolf-py7ps how am I a sheep when I'm stating facts? don't you think these look a lot like macbooks?

    • @theothernodude3139
      @theothernodude3139 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      @@p.aradise Don't try to rationalize with him. It'll be like talking to a brick wall.

  • @bhgemini
    @bhgemini 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Dave. Do you record via OBS, Atem, or similar? Instead of cutting between A & B camers in post, it looks like your are live changing cameras.

    • @ddkeydd
      @ddkeydd 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes he is

  • @elementneon
    @elementneon 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The disparity between how much reviewers seem to love devices with Snapdragon chips, and how much users of those devices despise the slowness and lag they inevitably always seem to have, is pretty amazing. Either reviewers are super out of touch, or Qualcomm has a significant marketing budget.

    • @scod3908
      @scod3908 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Portable device MS Windows have been living in the shadow of the M series chips for 4 years, chained to the wall by their charging cables.
      Snapdragon only needs to be in the same ball-park as the M series for them to eat it all up.
      Higher thermals, greater range of hardware compatibility issues, MS Windows X86 application conversions 4 years behind and parallel development required to retain X86 compatibility... we'll just see if the extra performance from the ARM SoC can make up for all of those issues.

  • @JohnMushitu
    @JohnMushitu 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Exciting times. Can't wait for the reviews

  • @khosroueghsh
    @khosroueghsh 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i love the way you do the reviews. always honest

    • @Ailidan
      @Ailidan 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's absolutely disgusting how Dave subliminally advertises Lenovo.

  • @cameronbosch1213
    @cameronbosch1213 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +135

    I'm still a bit suspicious on how Windows will work (or won't work) with ARM...

    • @ZeitGeist_TV
      @ZeitGeist_TV 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

      Mostly won't is my guess.

    • @jak8274
      @jak8274 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

      Windows already works fine on ARM since the Surface Pro X

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@ZeitGeist_TVAnd while Qualcomm is working on Linux support, good luck having to likely compile a lot of apps yourself, if they are FOSS, otherwise, you're currently screwed.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@jak8274 Key word on mostly. And I don't use Windows anymore, so I don't really care.

    • @d3rocks4u
      @d3rocks4u 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@jak8274 I'm using one now and it's not all the way there yet

  • @gettcouped
    @gettcouped 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Definitely exciting! You are definitely right; we will need an EXTENSIVE amount of reviews to make sure it works for whatever use cases apply to each of us.

  • @disekjoumoer
    @disekjoumoer 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You da man, Dave. love your style.

  • @anthonjhnon1
    @anthonjhnon1 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Finally the video I've ben waiting on.

  • @ilyasz4473
    @ilyasz4473 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Honestly the only thing I would like from this situation is for ARM Windows to become good enough so people can figure out how to dual boot macs with it :)

    • @andrei8683
      @andrei8683 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well true, it might be quite good for hackintosh. But ARM is not supported now, as far as I know. Only intel based processors mostly supported.

    • @scod3908
      @scod3908 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      MS Windows has cut a deal with Parallels to ensure Apple users can only emulate their OS, and are doing everything they can to stop people running it natively on Apple products.
      Look up all the online grassroots dev projects to convert Windows ARM to Apple M series Silicon products.... they all go quiet
      Are Qualcomm/MS colluding to stop people from having the ability to directly compare the SoC with the same OS?

  • @brightziee
    @brightziee 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    man... been waiting for this launch this whole year 😭😭

  • @ivovass195
    @ivovass195 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you for excluding the copilot bs from this overview of these new devices. I see a good future for these thin and light laptops 😊

  • @REVIEWSONTHERUN
    @REVIEWSONTHERUN 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for sharing it. ✌️

  • @Yusuf-Licht
    @Yusuf-Licht 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Hey Dave, are you sure that the Surface Laptops gets also OLED Screens? I couldn't yet find that info anywere. Thanks for the great vid as always!

  • @PhantomOnline
    @PhantomOnline 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Was hoping you would talk about the concerns you had with the ram. I remember you saying that it might be baked onto the chip like apples M series chips. Do these laptops have upgradable ram ?

    • @metamon2704
      @metamon2704 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      It's only a problem if there isn't enough of it - from what I can tell the lowest specs have 16GB

    • @asmc1492
      @asmc1492 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@metamon2704ram demand increase in the future, expandable ram allows for future proofing

  • @HannoSLM8213
    @HannoSLM8213 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for another awesome video.

  • @user-ug4li6md6d
    @user-ug4li6md6d 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have been using windows 11 on Parallels on the mac and running a bunch of x86 software, what I can tell is that so far the Prism emulation has been excellent, and this is running on top of an existing emulation layer. I cannot wait to see how these devices will perform natively.

  • @ettcha
    @ettcha 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +79

    Samsung announced at the same time. I hope all this brings about some great machines.
    That emulation layer had better be good too.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Exactly. Otherwise, it's going to ruin the devices.

    • @dominic7012
      @dominic7012 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Laptop from Samsung? Good joke.

    • @collinsgichuhi8255
      @collinsgichuhi8255 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The Samsung Book 4 Edge was accidentally listed by a Vietnamese website and was costing around $2089

    • @houssamalucad753
      @houssamalucad753 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      @@dominic7012 Have you been in a cave or something? they make decent laptops already, now with the new chips they might step it up to making great ones.

    • @Space97.
      @Space97. 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@dominic7012I see they don't sell in your part of the world 😂

  • @DeusRegum
    @DeusRegum 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    I prefer the square corners. Rounded corners seem like an inefficient use of screen space.

    • @yoyo-nf1ww
      @yoyo-nf1ww 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      i prefer rounded

    • @ctrl_x1770
      @ctrl_x1770 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I agree, especially considering how movies, media, websites, etc. are all designed with a rectangular screen in mind. Standards can change, like how laptop screens went from 16:9 to 16 by 10, but a visual change with no real benefit like rounded corners is really just wasted screen space.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Same here. Especially given that it makes IPS panels cloudy around the edges (bot really the case with OLED but it's still a waste of space).

    • @precursors
      @precursors 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      All those 16 pixels lost…

    • @AryaStarky
      @AryaStarky 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      What screen space are you missing, it’s literally the corners

  • @adlerz5433
    @adlerz5433 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dave really got that chill vibe

  • @Kirmo13
    @Kirmo13 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    omg yes how cool I've been waiting for this for so long

  • @paulhernaus
    @paulhernaus 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I have a Surface Laptop Go 3. I never noticed, but while watching your video I now saw that it has 4 rounded corners too.

  • @user-cl8ik9kt9e
    @user-cl8ik9kt9e 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

    I am really excited for full native Linux support for these devices, which seems to be on the way! Also, eagerly waiting for Snapdragon X based Chromebooks.

    • @mug786
      @mug786 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      yes! imagine having a low power state on linux. imagine having a linux on a laptop!!

    • @user-cl8ik9kt9e
      @user-cl8ik9kt9e 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@mug786 not sure I understand the tone of your comment.... What really excites me regarding these Snapdragon laptops is the possibility of having a thin and light Linux laptop that lasts about 20 hours on a single charge.

    • @MrMoogle
      @MrMoogle 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Same! I just left a comment wondering about Linux support. Glad to hear they are working on it! Fedora installs so easily on my Thinkpads and I would love to have that with the battery life of ARM.

    • @mug786
      @mug786 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@user-cl8ik9kt9e sorry, i'm not very good with tone. the biggest problem with linux on laptops is the lack of power efficiency. it's not even about arm or x86. the cpu itself works on max all the time, unlike macos or windows, where it idles unless there's work to be done. so a x86 windows laptop can last 12 h easily, but if you install linux on it it will be constantly warm and die in 5 h. hopefully we'll see this adressed soon.

    • @kozad86
      @kozad86 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You'll have to jailbreak them, MS has another exclusive deal with Qualcomm on these like they have for older ARM PC hardware.

  • @KTPurdy
    @KTPurdy 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well done on the pros and cons

  • @jawatkinsful
    @jawatkinsful 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a fantastic video!!

  • @saitejakonjela
    @saitejakonjela 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Is Intel dead?

    • @sasia8738
      @sasia8738 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      May be they are sleeping for now,will wake up with new specs and they will sleep again so on .....

    • @Jjhffbki
      @Jjhffbki 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Gone… reduced to atoms

    • @tradingbroofficial
      @tradingbroofficial 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Won't buy it, I'll stick to x86 for compatibility

  • @radeofff
    @radeofff 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

    Dave is one of the rarest youtubers, who gives as mush information as needed, without stretching it to 10.01 minutes long. Tons of respect!

    • @hornfan722
      @hornfan722 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      fwiw the new length of videos that allow for monetization is 8:00 -- so 8:01 is the new 10:01 --- not saying Dave is bad about it but just a new policy

  • @nexusyang4832
    @nexusyang4832 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As always, Dave gets us the information without the fluff. Gets us in and gets us out and get on with our lives. :-)

  • @mng7872
    @mng7872 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The surface laptop studio also had curved corners on its display, although the radius of the curve is different here.

  • @TheBen4151
    @TheBen4151 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    As someone that much prefers windows OS over apple for a PC, I haven't even considered buying a new windows laptop since I got my M1 macbook air. Very excited to finally consider making the switch back.

    • @k.vn.k
      @k.vn.k 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      This is basically a MacBook air copy.

    • @boutstaxx
      @boutstaxx 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Personally I use a Dell Xps 9520 upgraded ram myself to 64gb and a M1 1tb IPad still haven’t found anything worth me updating

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      xou probably used windows for decades and did notr learn macOS in depth like most

    • @movieblues4614
      @movieblues4614 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      "Very excited to finally" be tracked by your ID to see W11 personalized ads?

    • @sonofage
      @sonofage 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dolurosu why bother with these apple fantards? see the smug response of probably didn't learn macOS in depth. what a smug response. I use a macbook M2 pro myself and there are things i prefer on windows like native tiling and clipboard history but macOS also isn't that bad either, since it feels like Linux but root user isn't accessible without enabling it and my VMs run a bit laggy. At the end of the day, use what works for you. stupid brand chasers. really hate these types.

  • @dinesh665
    @dinesh665 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Linux arm users: this could be my machine

    • @digitalspecter
      @digitalspecter 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's me. I've been waiting for these devices. If the Linux support gets there I'll be buying several X Elite machines.

  • @valramos2003
    @valramos2003 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Dave does not attend tech companies’ developer conferences and product releases - they go to Dave.

  • @MrBaskins2010
    @MrBaskins2010 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    finally ARM chips, hope windows 12 has less ads

  • @riklaunim
    @riklaunim 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I hope Linux support will be good and device tree lists will be available for each device.

  •  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great! Do they run Linux?

  • @ashraffouad
    @ashraffouad 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the video, I’m getting confused by the number of processors to buy, and what processor is best for specific purpose. Plz have a video for this buying guide.

  • @AbdulAziz-mp2bw
    @AbdulAziz-mp2bw 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Finally new hairr.. fresh look.. u rock it bro

  • @DavidAlsh
    @DavidAlsh 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Linux support? 👀

  • @Ashanmaril
    @Ashanmaril 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    Apple hasn't been doing rounded corners on the MacBooks for a decade. I believe the first time was the 2021 MacBook Pros

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      On the iPad Pro since 2018.

    • @Ashanmaril
      @Ashanmaril 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@cameronbosch1213 he said MacBooks. If we’re talking other Apple products, the iPhone X rounded the corners in 2017

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Ashanmaril That's true. Like he said, only the top corners were rounded. All four sides of the Surface devices are.

    • @Ashanmaril
      @Ashanmaril 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@cameronbosch1213 I’m not disputing they rounded the corners differently, or commenting on it at all. I’m just curious why he thought Apple was doing it for a decade when it’s really been like 2.5 years

    • @safwanshams9524
      @safwanshams9524 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I have a macbook pro from 2018 and it has rounded corners

  • @simonwang4530
    @simonwang4530 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    OMG I just realized I have the exact same shirt that you wore DAVE as I was watching this video 😂

  • @Mark.Taylor.
    @Mark.Taylor. 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks Dave! 😀

  • @johnnydoe3603
    @johnnydoe3603 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    20 Hours would be Sweet 😅

  • @brentspotswood
    @brentspotswood 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I’m curious to see how this goes. I hate Mac but have been using a MacBook Pro for the last couple of years because it allows me to do the things I want to do without having to worry much about battery life. If I can do dev work, some light gaming, and some video editing then I really look forward to ditching the MacBook. Maybe ditching the apple everything.

    • @AllGuitarSucks
      @AllGuitarSucks 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Its funny to see people saying they hate Mac but buy one anyways

    • @hyperpedro2868
      @hyperpedro2868 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It is a transition year. I really hope so. Close to move to Mac because of the battery life. But if we can get good Windows laptop with good battery life and without horrible Apple upgrade price I am all for it.

    • @sonofage
      @sonofage 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I use the macbook for traveling and the windows PC at home so i get you. With ARM, perhaps I can encourage the company i work for to have an opening for purchasing windows laptops for some.

  • @onlysublime
    @onlysublime 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can't wait to see one of these machines get in your hands! I preordered the Surface Pro with OLED, 16GB, and 512GB for $1349! fun times ahead!

  • @watwatwatwat
    @watwatwatwat 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Dave I love your fish tank, especially the color! Would you mind making a video to show your setup?

  • @BlackCowOppa
    @BlackCowOppa 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thank you!

  • @duchenedesignsolutions7036
    @duchenedesignsolutions7036 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I am not seeing anywhere on the Surface site that the laptops are OLED. If this is true, this is great, but I can't seem to find OLED verbiage anywhere with those.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      OLED for the X Elite version, which cost more. The base models are the X Plus and are IPS panels and only (currently) have 16GB/512GB as their max config, but the low price is only 256GB of storage. This is for the Surface Pros.

    • @duchenedesignsolutions7036
      @duchenedesignsolutions7036 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@andyH_England Yeah I saw that upgrading the chip on the Pro is OLED but not seeing that on the Laptop. Reviewers are only saying LCD for the laptop.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@duchenedesignsolutions7036 Yes, I did edit and add this was for the Surface Pro as the Laptop is not currently showing OLED. That makes the laptop a tough buy seeing that nearly every other X Elite laptop is coming with OLED.

    • @tringuyen7519
      @tringuyen7519 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@duchenedesignsolutions7036So MSFT wants to compete against the MacBook Air, not the MacBook Pro. Right?

  • @MrPerrisC
    @MrPerrisC 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Impressive review and really glad you didn't oversell the CPU like most creators are doing
    I've become excited would even if benchmarks equal qualcomm's claims it's still a second-rate CPU
    😊 Happily, pricing seems attractive
    I'd like to know pricing with 32 and 64 gigs of RAM, I won't be buying a laptop without 64 gigs of RAM unless it's got an upgradeable slot
    Looking forward to your actual on hand benchmark review

  • @Movie101yt
    @Movie101yt 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dave do you think the next big productivity laptop like Samsung tab s10ultra will also be a snapdragon elite chip?

  • @STREETFOODJOURNEY5
    @STREETFOODJOURNEY5 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    i have the same exact Uniqlo t shirt 😂

  • @Catzanova
    @Catzanova 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    600 nits - so no HDR

  • @fightnight14
    @fightnight14 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Holy moly this is the Surface Laptop that I've been waiting for. I abandoned my Surface Laptop Go in 2022 and got an M1 Macbook Air. It's time to go back up to the Surface!

    • @michaelayeni177
      @michaelayeni177 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same here my dream was a macbook that runs windows and my dream is HERE

    • @fightnight14
      @fightnight14 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@michaelayeni177 I hope that MS really nailed it this time but I’m not setting my expectations too high.

  • @sawyerseth9832
    @sawyerseth9832 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Damn you really snuck in that 114 wpm flex in there

  • @SP_Saga
    @SP_Saga 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    4:57 - Thanks for using metric units Dave! 😊

  • @shashank_sati
    @shashank_sati 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    22 sec ago is craazzy

  • @jaydeepgaikwad186
    @jaydeepgaikwad186 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can't wait to get my hands on a snapdragon x laptop to play typing master pro

  • @stumpatron
    @stumpatron 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rounded corners are on the laptop studio too

  • @lordwafflesthegreat
    @lordwafflesthegreat 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Can't wait to put Linux on it!

    • @kajetanczerwinski3962
      @kajetanczerwinski3962 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Linux (few apps) + ARM (few apps) = very few apps, sadly ://

    • @fluffy_tail4365
      @fluffy_tail4365 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kajetanczerwinski3962 on linux you can just recompile stuff...most programs are open source

    • @OverGrownApe_001
      @OverGrownApe_001 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@kajetanczerwinski3962 what? lmao

    • @youtube_bot839
      @youtube_bot839 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Box64 and wine are already pretty good. These laptops should push their development even further.

    • @petkogeorgiev2103
      @petkogeorgiev2103 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kajetanczerwinski3962 Because of the Raspberry PI being so popular, pretty much all Linux software has ARM builds. Which to me is funny, as app support is one of the biggest problems with Windows on ARM, but no one acknowledges how good is Linux on that regard.
      My guess is that Linux currently has more ARM apps than Windows on ARM will have when these laptops release.

  • @DeusRegum
    @DeusRegum 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    @Dave2D Where'd your hair go?

  • @Ozturw
    @Ozturw 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dave, great review. 3 minutes 45 seconds you have said Surface Pro 11, you meant to say Surface pro 10 I think. Looking forward to testing the Surface pro 10

  • @greysenpaige
    @greysenpaige 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Are you sure about OLED on the laptop? I can't find confirmation on that anywhere.

  • @flamingkillermc2806
    @flamingkillermc2806 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    0:59 False apple has not being doing rounded corners for that long

  • @SParkAtomix
    @SParkAtomix 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    80W power draw for an ARM chip is insane

    • @masterofdizzzaster
      @masterofdizzzaster 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      completely defeats the purpose of that switch

    • @ThinkTinkh
      @ThinkTinkh 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Does it stay there or does it go even higher?

    • @ZedDevStuff
      @ZedDevStuff 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm pretty sure it eats like 20 something in regular usage, at least that's what they say

    • @pilkycrc
      @pilkycrc 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Will be interesting to see how many OEMs support up to 80W. From what I can tell online the M3 Pro can hit those Cinebench numbers with about 50W. I mean 80W isn’t too far from the 100-110W my M1 Ultra Mac Studio draws as total system power while maxing out CPU and GPU with various powered devices connected, so I’d be more inclined to think you’d see the 80W mode more frequently in some desktop mini PCs where it won’t hit battery life and can be cooled adequately

  • @siddusaikarri5751
    @siddusaikarri5751 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow the Lenovo yoga laptop ad was so organic 😂

  • @imSterling
    @imSterling 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    IINM, the Surface Laptop Go had rounded corners before the MacBook did.

  • @A_GodApple
    @A_GodApple 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Im surprised how he didn't compare this to the Apple Silicon MacBooks, which are the gold standard of laptops

    • @josephle2381
      @josephle2381 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He did?

    • @metamon2704
      @metamon2704 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      how would he compare when it hasn't been released yet, did you even watch the video?

    • @A_GodApple
      @A_GodApple 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@metamon2704 but he literally had it in his hands… and he even showed benchmarks of it compared to M3, might as well compare to MacBooks completely…

    • @jaimenazario7965
      @jaimenazario7965 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This snapdragon x chip can compete with the base M3 chip that Apple offers, from last year. These chips will be released along side laptops that will go to market in 2025, when the M5 chips would be releasing. Kinda still lagging behind and playing catch up.

    • @eds464
      @eds464 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@A_GodApple most likely benchmarks given by the marketing team. Remember this is early access so just because he has the products in his hands doesn't mean he has free reign to test everything. This tactic or concept is not new with these companies.

  • @imNotMeWhenimHungry
    @imNotMeWhenimHungry 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I'll never forget when the US Air Force discovered Chinese spyware on Lenovo computers and banned purchases from them

    • @TomNook.
      @TomNook. 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Microsoft ones will take photos every seconds of your screen. It's wonderful!

  • @jtland4842
    @jtland4842 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    All I want is for new laptops to support LPCAMM2 so we can have upgradable and serviceable ram in laptops again. Lenovo just brought it to market in the Thinkpad P1 Gen7 so hopefully the rest of their laptop range will get it this year or next.

  • @EdwardViaTomato
    @EdwardViaTomato 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I haven't been here in a while. That aquarium looks nice.

  • @xpusostomos
    @xpusostomos 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    If rounded corners are so great, let Microsoft windows do it as an option.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly. Oh wait, I don't use Winblows! 😂

    • @acasualmusiclistener7919
      @acasualmusiclistener7919 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cameronbosch1213 bro you fucking killed him

    • @xpusostomos
      @xpusostomos 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@cameronbosch1213🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Then let whatever junk you use do it

  • @shehanmello2489
    @shehanmello2489 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    noticed I'm getting this weird "headache" when watching certain channels. Turns out I'm still not used to 60fps

    • @dr.coconut
      @dr.coconut 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah, same. I still don’t really like the weird way 60fps looks

    • @allawy
      @allawy 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      is this a new TH-cam update?

  • @johnmiller323
    @johnmiller323 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Did they fix the issue with the screens cracking when you close the laptop? Or the hinges giving out after a couple years? I don’t feel like I’m very tough on my devices but the SL3 left a lot to be desired.

  • @mhtweeter
    @mhtweeter 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    note: mac’s only started having the top corners rounded in late 2021 with the macbook pro 14 and 16 with m1 pro/max

  • @suanthang2463
    @suanthang2463 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Damn! I'm early af

  • @reviewchan9806
    @reviewchan9806 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Shoving useless AI down our throats like that is such a red flag. That dedicated copilot button is so forced and useless.

    • @devansh2895
      @devansh2895 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah it's shoving cause MS is doing it. If this was Apple's product then this would have been called "innovation" by Apple themselves their fan boys.

  • @theoneyoudontsee8315
    @theoneyoudontsee8315 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    a lot of space is offered with a unified soc design only downside is only storage is upgradable. so you have to buy what you think you may need now for ram offerings just like apple chips

  • @hman2875
    @hman2875 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looking good, hope laptops with this chip age well