Yeah, it was a classic in old school against the odds videos. Seth would literally splash red just to blood moon to slow games long enough for whatever jank he was plaing to work
@@cuddlequeen3225 domain zoo is a 5 color aggro deck that utilizes the domain mechanic to get above rate cards. Leyline binding, tribal flames, territorial kavu, and even nishoba brawler are great in the deck
@@cuddlequeen3225 domain is a deck that benefits from having all 5 basic land types and zoo is a type of aggro deck that uses lots of different types of creatures
@13:31 I understand the infinite combo, but what is the finisher? As in what is the wincon? Enemy has no mana, everything is tapped. He draws the entire deck and then what?
Since nobody else told you- He doesn't necessarily win, but he can now cause a one sided boardwipe. The basic loop of -pay life, place a negative counter-make a snake-gain life means he can erase whatever advantage he has at instant speed at basically no cost to life while drawing a shit ton of cards. He doesn't win instantly, but there is literally no way out for his deck against a constant instant speed boardwipe that also draws the yawg player cards.
This is the deck I'm shocked I dont really see others playing. Like, sneak attack decks were some of the best decks in legacy, and now your sneak attack creature is green for NO too. Like, I think this is one of the better decks in this format.
And he continues to "flick" the cards in his hand even after that royal misclick. lol. I was noticing the flicking even before he did that and couldn't understand why someone would have that sort of tick with a virtual tabletop.
This is a perfect example of why I’ll be more a spectator for timeless than a player. It’s so much the power levels so much as the games being over in at most 2 to 3 turns.
ive been working on a build like this, its really fun! personally i like 1 kogla and yidaro (removal), 2 ghalta (so you can no it even with one stuck in hand) 3 atraxa and 3 griselbrand (best fatty with sneak attack) i cut the wurms cuz they felt winmore even if theyre super sick with sneak attack
This is surprisingly similar to a Mono blue deck that I built previously while playing Shandalar. Tinker and Show and Tell to cheat out huge threats, Personal Tutor for consistency, Back to Basics functions somewhat similar to Blood Moon, and then backing it all up with Counterspell and Force of Will. It’s surprising to see a Gruul deck that functions so similarly to a mono blue deck!
Keep up the Timeless videos. I dipped my toes into Timeless with an Esper Midrange deck recently and enjoyed it alot, though I need to do alot of tweaks but ran out of wildcards.
Back in Urzas block got 2nd place in a tourny with a Sneak Attack deck playing tons of creatures I couldn’t cast otherwise. Thorn Elemental and company. Ran into white weenie in finals and got wrecked.
Out of curiosity, why 10 dorks as opposed to 6 dorks and 4 utopia sprawl? It’s much more resilient to fatal push and bolt. 6 forests and 8 fetches for said forests are plenty to enable it.
Well it's not a loss yet but the opponent will simply remove his board, draw 21 cards while doing so and seth next turn will only have 4 mana since his mana dork gets removed, even if SOMEHOW he got a way to cheat more his creatures into play all the opponent really needs to do is keep removal in hands in case it's necessary and slowly beat seth down for the win, assuming of course he didn't find an instant win condition for the next turn in the 21 draws he's gonna get.
Seth: 18:45 “I don’t know if you’ve noticed this, but I have a bad habit of randomly clicking and shuffling my hand on Arena and MODO” Literally EVERYONE: YES!!! SETH!!! We’ve noticed. We’ve all noticed! The episode of Commander Clash where you guys teamed up to play the same deck, the rest of the Crew noticed! So YEAH! 🤦🏾♂️
For the past couple weeks I've been seeing a lot of Natural Order into Primetime. Definitely strong but rarely game winning. First time I saw Natural Order into Atraxa or Ghalta it completely changed my perspective on the card, I think I might craft this bad boy
i just hit mythic with this deck i made a few adjustments but since seeing this video it looked fun dropped 160$ to make it and loved it since thank you so much for showing me this deck
Love the cards, wish they would add more powerful cards to widen the format. Like give us some free spells for phoenix, maybe hedron crab and vengevine, maybe some tron lands or something, cabal ritual, entomb/persist
It definitely could use a few more things to broaden the format like Tron lands and another ritual. I'm not sure that if I want free spells or not though. Like the obvious ones are Force of Will/Negation, which might be healthy for the format but also might make Wilderness Rec/Nexus and/or Oko/Uro/Teferi piles super meta which sounds miserable. The other ones that come to mind are the evoke elementals and in really don't want to have to start playing against scam on arena (which is pretty much all that's missing from the client). Otherwise I guess there are the suspend cards like footfalls and living end, which I guess you could cascade/discover into on turn 3 in theory?
@@Red-Tower i think living end would be a super easy addition for wotc and would create a whole new archetype instantly. In terms of free spells i just meant like gitaxian probe specifically for phoenix. But force of negation may become necessary eventually, if anything too broken appears. The formats weird in that it requires a myriad of strong decks in order to stay balanced. I think we just need more archetypes that can keep up
Dedicated dollmaker, certainly the counter point to that "What alchemy card can compare?" With historic cards you can clone anything quicker and much more reliably..
Was the opponent with the Chord/yawg deck infinite on board there? I've been looking at the board for a hot second and don't actually see the infinite.
@@SecsecGoesRawrthey get infinite draw with the snakes until they draw into another chord, then they sac all tapped creatures except hapatra to get more untapped snakes and search for blood artist or cuthroat with chord
@@spiceytortilla21oppo would draw whole deck while clearing his board and creating snakes, snakes can pay for chord of calling to get cutthroat/blood artist for lethal
I know I'm 3 weeks late to the party; However, Seth saying that Alchemy cards can't compete with Brainstorm kills me. Especially considering one of them puts the Power 9 in your deck. 💀
... okay. Was it just me, was anyone wondering why he kept grabbing Atraxa when he could just... murder them outright with Worldspine Wurm? Like, yes, it's less card draw, but SMASH WIN BE DONE WITH IT
Ever since I heard Seth say “I just jam Blood Moon in modern then I can play whatever jank I want”, I see the card differently 😂
Yeah, it was a classic in old school against the odds videos. Seth would literally splash red just to blood moon to slow games long enough for whatever jank he was plaing to work
4:23 I couldn't help but hear LSV in the back of my head: "Thoughtsieze does not have protection from nonsense"
22:22 One of the worst feelings, Hallmark should make a "Kept a greedy bloodmoon hand against mono red" card
Well, in most moon decks we can just fable it away.
@@JonaxII ?
Oh like discard them and draw new stuff
it was still a free win for someone!
@@JonaxIIHe meant when you're playing against Blood Moon, not when you're playing it yourself.
As a domain zoo enjoyer, blood moon is hilarious and people should keep playing it
Blood moon is one of those cards that limits greed in the best way possible
A what now
@@cuddlequeen3225 domain zoo is a 5 color aggro deck that utilizes the domain mechanic to get above rate cards. Leyline binding, tribal flames, territorial kavu, and even nishoba brawler are great in the deck
@@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandleseriously. Like if I’m trying to fetch shock my way into all 5 colors on turn 2, it’s MY fault and I should feel bad
@@cuddlequeen3225 domain is a deck that benefits from having all 5 basic land types and zoo is a type of aggro deck that uses lots of different types of creatures
Thank you so much for putting all this effort on Timeless, this is the kind of format I can watch.
@13:31 I understand the infinite combo, but what is the finisher? As in what is the wincon? Enemy has no mana, everything is tapped. He draws the entire deck and then what?
Since nobody else told you-
He doesn't necessarily win, but he can now cause a one sided boardwipe. The basic loop of -pay life, place a negative counter-make a snake-gain life means he can erase whatever advantage he has at instant speed at basically no cost to life while drawing a shit ton of cards. He doesn't win instantly, but there is literally no way out for his deck against a constant instant speed boardwipe that also draws the yawg player cards.
Putting 2 Atraxa on the battlefield T3 for lulz, but not good enough for the win 😂 Timeless is crazy
This is the deck I'm shocked I dont really see others playing. Like, sneak attack decks were some of the best decks in legacy, and now your sneak attack creature is green for NO too. Like, I think this is one of the better decks in this format.
People see that there's no Emrakul I guess
And he continues to "flick" the cards in his hand even after that royal misclick. lol.
I was noticing the flicking even before he did that and couldn't understand why someone would have that sort of tick with a virtual tabletop.
"idk if youve noticed this..."
Yes Seth, weve all noticed your restless magic playing 😂
This is a perfect example of why I’ll be more a spectator for timeless than a player.
It’s so much the power levels so much as the games being over in at most 2 to 3 turns.
If you can stop the haymaker pkay it usually hits a pretty long grind. Seeing a lot of jund and Sultai just going the distance
*Pizza Delivery* hear me out..
"Who ordered a pizza?"
"Sneak attack!"
The classic assassin disguise.
ive been working on a build like this, its really fun! personally i like 1 kogla and yidaro (removal), 2 ghalta (so you can no it even with one stuck in hand) 3 atraxa and 3 griselbrand (best fatty with sneak attack) i cut the wurms cuz they felt winmore even if theyre super sick with sneak attack
Timeless is the best kind of silly. This is so much fun to watch right now.
This is surprisingly similar to a Mono blue deck that I built previously while playing Shandalar. Tinker and Show and Tell to cheat out huge threats, Personal Tutor for consistency, Back to Basics functions somewhat similar to Blood Moon, and then backing it all up with Counterspell and Force of Will. It’s surprising to see a Gruul deck that functions so similarly to a mono blue deck!
Keep up the Timeless videos. I dipped my toes into Timeless with an Esper Midrange deck recently and enjoyed it alot, though I need to do alot of tweaks but ran out of wildcards.
Back in Urzas block got 2nd place in a tourny with a Sneak Attack deck playing tons of creatures I couldn’t cast otherwise. Thorn Elemental and company. Ran into white weenie in finals and got wrecked.
Should have play False Prophet.
@@domri4203 for sure. I was 13 without a sideboard. 🥴
Rope Line Attendant is actually a really cool card and imo underrated in Brawl. But yeah, I don't think it's remotely Timeless playable 😅
I've been playing with it in Angry Kitties in historic.
It's provided an insane amount of Winota fodder to completely kill me the one time i saw it. Without Winota, no idea why they're playing it
how was the yawgmoth so infinite that seth had no chance of winning?
sneak attack, natural order and blood moon in the title was bound to be a great video.
LSV is proud
Seth on Arena - *Flick flick flick flick flick*
Also Seth: WHAT NOONE CAN HEAR ME FLICKING MY CARDS ON HERE
XD
This deck is sweet, one idea would be to put a miser yasharn in the deck to blank yawg combo.
Sneaking in giant monsters? Id call that deck Kaiju Behind You!
Natural Attack might be a good name for the deck, it looks sweet!
why not Sneak Order?
@@jackl8025Sneaky Order; Better Flavour.
I love all the insane decks youve been posting lol 😂
My opponents also love them apparently hahaha
Timeless is so darn good. This deck is awesome. And Yawg being a good deck 🥰
All I need is 2 more mythics for the natural order playset. The deck is sick
17:40 the bloodmoon turns the 2 land seth has into mountains and he could have played sneak attack - or am i missing somethin?
Out of curiosity, why 10 dorks as opposed to 6 dorks and 4 utopia sprawl? It’s much more resilient to fatal push and bolt. 6 forests and 8 fetches for said forests are plenty to enable it.
Other than that, sweet deck. Blood mooning people is more than a type of magic, it’s a way of life.
It needs the creatures to sacrifice to Natural Order.
Probably for naturally ordering things
I suppose it’s a trade off. With bolt being everywhere I think it may be worth the downside of not being a creature for order
25:15 "The digital cards are just not that strong."
*Oracle of the Alpha* has entered the chat.
is oracle of the alpha *that strong*?
13:31 can someone please explain how this is a loss? I get that there’s an infinite combo but how does the opponent win?
Well it's not a loss yet but the opponent will simply remove his board, draw 21 cards while doing so and seth next turn will only have 4 mana since his mana dork gets removed, even if SOMEHOW he got a way to cheat more his creatures into play all the opponent really needs to do is keep removal in hands in case it's necessary and slowly beat seth down for the win, assuming of course he didn't find an instant win condition for the next turn in the 21 draws he's gonna get.
@@ruigandara3070 ok so he wasn’t dead on board. Thank you!
Inquisitor Captain does a lot of work for me in Timeless...also this deck could be called Attack, Natually, Sneak +1, Attack & Order, or Natural Sneak
Seth: 18:45 “I don’t know if you’ve noticed this, but I have a bad habit of randomly clicking and shuffling my hand on Arena and MODO”
Literally EVERYONE: YES!!! SETH!!! We’ve noticed. We’ve all noticed! The episode of Commander Clash where you guys teamed up to play the same deck, the rest of the Crew noticed! So YEAH! 🤦🏾♂️
For the past couple weeks I've been seeing a lot of Natural Order into Primetime. Definitely strong but rarely game winning. First time I saw Natural Order into Atraxa or Ghalta it completely changed my perspective on the card, I think I might craft this bad boy
When watching this video, the impression I'm getting from you is: "Life is good!" :) But that's nice!
i just hit mythic with this deck i made a few adjustments but since seeing this video it looked fun dropped 160$ to make it and loved it since thank you so much for showing me this deck
Deck
4 Atraxa, Grand Unifier (ONE) 196
4 Field of the Dead (M20) 247
1 Ketria Triome (IKO) 250
4 Natural Order (STA) 54
3 Primeval Titan (M11) 192
1 Stomping Ground (RNA) 259
1 Worldspine Wurm (RTR) 140
1 Copperline Gorge (ONE) 249
1 Rootbound Crag (XLN) 256
1 Rockfall Vale (MID) 266
1 Cragcrown Pathway (ZNR) 261
1 Sheltered Thicket (AKR) 330
1 Boseiju, Who Endures (NEO) 266
1 Ziatora's Proving Ground (SNC) 261
4 Sneak Attack (WOT) 50
4 Gilded Goose (ELD) 160
4 Lightning Bolt (STA) 42
1 Temple of Abandon (THB) 244
2 Snow-Covered Forest (KHM) 284
1 Gnottvold Slumbermound (KHM) 258
1 Slagwoods Bridge (MH2) 256
1 Wooded Foothills (KTK) 249
1 Khalni Garden (J21) 121
1 Tranquil Thicket (ONS) 326
1 Castle Garenbrig (ELD) 240
1 Fabled Passage (M21) 246
4 Kami of Bamboo Groves (Y22) 24
2 Wurmcoil Engine (BRR) 63
3 Brotherhood's End (BRO) 128
3 Delighted Halfling (LTR) 158
1 Mountain (REX) 28
2 Snow-Covered Mountain (KHM) 282
this is the one i ran
Seth treats Misco and Boo in this video like it's not one of the most broken cards ever printed... cast that lil guy!!
4:50 honestly they should make card art in honor of the Thoughtseize Bug
I feel like crim's darling force of despair might actually be good in timeless.
37:16 so what I'm hearing is against the odds: just make GW work in timeless?
Missed dead-on-board in the Yorion game, could have sent a Bolt at opponents life total for lethal
Read the card closer. Rope Line Attendant gives the etb ability to all creatures in your hand.
Love the cards, wish they would add more powerful cards to widen the format. Like give us some free spells for phoenix, maybe hedron crab and vengevine, maybe some tron lands or something, cabal ritual, entomb/persist
It definitely could use a few more things to broaden the format like Tron lands and another ritual. I'm not sure that if I want free spells or not though. Like the obvious ones are Force of Will/Negation, which might be healthy for the format but also might make Wilderness Rec/Nexus and/or Oko/Uro/Teferi piles super meta which sounds miserable.
The other ones that come to mind are the evoke elementals and in really don't want to have to start playing against scam on arena (which is pretty much all that's missing from the client).
Otherwise I guess there are the suspend cards like footfalls and living end, which I guess you could cascade/discover into on turn 3 in theory?
@@Red-Tower i think living end would be a super easy addition for wotc and would create a whole new archetype instantly. In terms of free spells i just meant like gitaxian probe specifically for phoenix. But force of negation may become necessary eventually, if anything too broken appears.
The formats weird in that it requires a myriad of strong decks in order to stay balanced. I think we just need more archetypes that can keep up
@@cloudmane4159 oh yeah, I totally forgot about stuff like gitaxian probe and dismember. Those are probably fine to add.
Just before starting this video I saw a LSV short that said; ‘whatever you do, don’t play SA in Timeless’. Oké let’s go!
OMG THAT FIRST GAME WAS BRUTAL
I love when people play a turn 2 blood moon. Mainly because I've been playing mono black necro decks.
Why sideboard when not playing best of three?
what's the point of sideboard in BO1 games?
I feel like playing cards that have been historically banned the line "maybe its busted" doesnt quite work... like of course its busted.
seth fighting his demons and failing to make a deck without blood moon
respect o7
Wizards give us Magus of the Moon, Pillage and Back to Basics you cowards
Dedicated dollmaker, certainly the counter point to that "What alchemy card can compare?" With historic cards you can clone anything quicker and much more reliably..
What about that podcast about flicking cards.... even in Arena :D 18:40 Bad habit happens ;)
Hey! We’re practically playing Vintage Cube!
i built this deck almost exactly and was farming timeless ladder. was hoping no one prominent would post a list so i could keep it to myself 😢😂
Seth what's up with all the BO1 content lately?
Ambush Predator. Sneak attack + Natural Order? That's an ambush predator.
being able to play atraxa and blood moon in the same deck, magic as garfield intended
I wanna challenge you with a mono-white Timeless deck, Saffron!
Natural Attack is a better name
Was the opponent with the Chord/yawg deck infinite on board there?
I've been looking at the board for a hot second and don't actually see the infinite.
Nevermind, the snake tokens from Hapatra triggering innkeeper?
@@SecsecGoesRawrthey get infinite draw with the snakes until they draw into another chord, then they sac all tapped creatures except hapatra to get more untapped snakes and search for blood artist or cuthroat with chord
@SecsecGoesRawr yeah sac-ing the snakes from hap to yawg, wipes Seth's board and gains a lot of life
Sac a snake, put a -1/-1 on Seth's creature, get another snake, gain the life, do it again until Seth's whole board is dead
You sac until you draw chord and then sac all tapped creatures except hapatra to convoke into zulaport or something
After listening to the podcast, I can't help but notice Seth shuffling his hand. Lol
STP is the best mono white card. If they gave us Armageddon white would be playable.
you should call the deck "Moon and Boo"! Sneak attack and Natural Order being the boo!
timeless is so fun to watch
Order of the Sneak Moon?
I feel like I'd cut a Wurm for a second Ghalta, thoughts?
Oh no…am I going to see another surge of blood moons again now?
In the last game you could have not played that Forest instead sneak atraxa into play get a red land and then sneak the wurm into play
I wonder when people adjust their decks vs bloodmoon and land destruction and put some goddamn basics in their decks
Any deck with a Blood Moon is a good deck. 👍
You can exile instant and sorceries to do 2 damage instead of attacking for one
Requires black mana.
You should 100% make room for OUAT and then cut these Questing Druids for some a card that generates regular card advantage.
How was Yawgmoth infinite?
It wasn't idk why he conceded lol. He wasn't dead on board
I don't play modern, but I can read cards. It wasn't infinite. I think Seth just meant the opponent could "infinitely" kill his creatures.
@@spiceytortilla21oppo would draw whole deck while clearing his board and creating snakes, snakes can pay for chord of calling to get cutthroat/blood artist for lethal
watched the whole video. really good stuff
15x speed or something?
That was in fact the worst hand I've ever seen against mono red.
Great ro watch but that card in hand shuffling habit is super distracting
Call it “midnight snack” it is a sneaky order
That food consumption must have heart
50 rares in the paindeck is crazy
Gets Max Punished (tm) for randomly clicking. Within ten seconds is repeatedly clicking on the exact same location 😂 ❤
We need Guttural Response in the Format. XD
moneypile is missing these cards the deck is pretty known for abusing called evoke elementals seth
My brother plays blood moon in a mono red goblin deck.
Call it Sneder so we can all suffer.
Natural Moon Attack would be a W title
I know I'm 3 weeks late to the party; However, Seth saying that Alchemy cards can't compete with Brainstorm kills me. Especially considering one of them puts the Power 9 in your deck. 💀
Oh man, Sneak Attack in timeless is hilarious.
Bloody Sneak order ?
I want to play timeless so bad but I don’t have the wildcards to make a deck 😢
Nat-attack
Is this deck like 20 mythic wildcards needed?!?!?!?!
... okay. Was it just me, was anyone wondering why he kept grabbing Atraxa when he could just... murder them outright with Worldspine Wurm? Like, yes, it's less card draw, but SMASH WIN BE DONE WITH IT
Still miss BO3
The nervous card fidgeting almost gave me a seizure… but it was an entertaining deck build
Oops all wildcards. Would love to play this deck but realistically never going too.
Didn't fight against Necro, lol.
Attack Order is the only acceptable name for this
This is one of the most degenerate things I've seen played on Goldfish....and I enjoy it. Keep it up!
its fun to watch him get so cocky and then scoop lol
Would name deck " you ordered a bloody sneak*"