I'm glad to see the comments finding his inability to pronounce bilge hilarious. I really want to find it funny, but I'm an old sailor so it comes out more cringe to me.
He has two in the sideboard but I just feel 3 in the main as well as two haunts would have won it. @mindhackz *edit he just said it himself in the video LOL
Yeah, it's awkward. We don't really want to draw those cards early, but we always want to draw them late (or have them to tutor up when we need them). I think adding a couple more finishers could be worth it.
@@tthakshmm3349I think I agree. There are times when playing against control to hold up mana for No More Lies or to impend as an enchantment so the creature sweepers don’t get it, but in this game I think there were turns where having a 5/5 body to swing with would have won the game but impending gives 4 turns for opponent to find an answer.
I love how you have the untapped client add-on, which let's you check how many you copies of cards you still have left in your deck... And you don't use it
@@MTGGoldfish yeah, we can see it in the overlay of the video, its along the bottom of your arena client there's options to toggle on and off that let you see what's left in your library, the odds of drawing a land, etc
"Watch them settle the wreckage" I love how scary People still are of the settle blow out... and how it feels. When you over swing and walk into it, it feels like bumping your head lmao. Me and my wife decided to "try boiler biggle-ing" to spice up the bed room... Let's just say, the paper cut was well worth it. If you know you know...
For what it's worth, I'd love to see your take on pioneer Doom Foretold! Love that card. And I always love to see more pioneer content from you in general!
With Doom Foretold you play Beseech the Mirror as well so that gives you 8 Dooms. You also play 1 of cards such as Kaya's Wrath (sweeper), Sheoldred, Heliod/Neva etc. that you can tutor off the beseech.
As an erstwhile pioneer azorius control player, I loooooved that second match. I think the cobtrl player played very well, but they were a little too aggressive with the teferis in game 3 given you'd shown dovins veto multiple times in game 2. Still probably better than I would have played, masterfully done on both sides. I run Settle, cuz I'm wrong. So you were right to be afraid of it, most uw cobtrol players don't run it, but we exist.
Hey saf, really enjoy your content. This series and others have inspired me to brew up several builds for. My most recent crazy one is an Infinity Gauntlet deck that's mono green Fists of Suns deck. I can post the list and some gameplay against a bot but would enjoy watching it in action against a human. I just added Primal Surge to bust the deck wide open. Salutations and thank you for the endless entertainment.
I've been enjoying Pioneer for a while and hope you play it more! There's Midrange, Control, and Combo options, it maybe feels like a bit more Aggro than I want to see (though that could be the Arena incentivizing people to play decks with short games), but I don't feel like I have to play Aggro.
42:15 Nassif has an answer: Black instead of Red and x3 Thought Distortion X4 Thoughtseize in SB 😂 I love Fable and Boiler tho, so gotta renounce that sweet hand disruption. Double pips in Overlords makes 5C almost impossible.
21:14 I would have leyline bindinged my own overlord to protect it from the farewell. Then, you can just attack with the overlord to kill the narset on your turn and be two,lands and a 6/5 up
@poiri Dangnit, I came here to make OPs comment except targeting my owh leyline binding so it comes back after the farewell and prevents narset activation 😢🤦🏼♀️
Pioneer is basically new extended. I say continue with it since it's a good way to expand (extend?) on standard in a way that doesn't go full modern/legacy in its style. I would like to see some more modern (speaking of) too since I think there are some interesting brews that are untapped (pun intended) with some of these new cards.
He does it on purpose. He does it on purpose. He does it on purpose he does it on purpose he does it on purpose he does it on purpose hedoesitonpurposehedoesitonpurposehedoesitonpurpose... AHHHHHH BIGGLES?!?!?!?
Like the deck, definitely need to tweak the numbers. Even though the black overlord doesnt trigger beans, it's got to be worth it to get the other overlords back after saccing them.
Why not a Ghostly Dancers, or two? Even just in the sideboard? It's another 5-drop to find with your 4mv enchants, if you've 'used' your Hauntwoods already, that recurs an enchantment (or unlocks a door for free) and after that it's just free value if it sticks around. Probably not in a tight 60 card list but in a Yorion toolbox pile it seems good.
Often budget magic / against the odds I’m interested but not overly excited to watch but every single much abrew upload stops me in my tracks. Time to spend an hour watching pioneer :)
Whenever i hear seth complain about colorpie breaks i think: commander decks with less colors already get somewhat punished since you cant splash for anything. With that in mind, especially when it comes to removal, i prefer gameplay being interactive rather than not having anything. In the same vein I realy dislike non-permanent-based win conditions since interaction is (for the most part) limited to playing blue.
during game 1 match 1, you could have bindinged your own atraxa in response to the drown in the loch, then sacrificed the binding to incarnation at end of turn to get atraxa back 10:12
50:13 Black will get to kill Artifacts with a chase-uncommon from a premium set. Modern Horizons 4 might bring us some nonsense like: End 1B Kicker - Discard a card. Destroy target nontoken creature. If this spell was kicked, instead destroy target nontoken permanent. You lose 3 life.
Been playing a standard build around the naya overlords. calix + up the beanstalk is a lot of value for them. wish we had the mana base to go 4 color to add the blue for more draw, but maybe in the future we get better fixing or redundency for hauntwoods fixing.
It better have overlord of the boilerbiggles...
I can't stop reading it this way. I feel like the ad nauseum zombie looks in my mind.
That zombie is just as weird as olive's pronunciation 😂@@montefrenkel8205
We love you Seth, we just also love boiler biggles
I'm glad to see the comments finding his inability to pronounce bilge hilarious. I really want to find it funny, but I'm an old sailor so it comes out more cringe to me.
He's gone full biggles
The biggle-ing will continue until moral improves
"morale"
This comment made me giggle
Ah he should used the Jebidiah Simpsons quote about embiggering for the intro.
This deck feels like it really needs a 3rd boilerbiggles, maybe even a fourth. It's come up so often.
You can never have too many Boilerbiggles.
Boilerbiggles is hilarious, love you SPBKASO
That control matchup completely boiled my biggles
IMO only running 2 biggles and 1 of the mistmoors is a huge mistake.
You basically ran out of ways to win because you had so few.
You should be ashamed of your biggle count.
He has two in the sideboard but I just feel 3 in the main as well as two haunts would have won it.
@mindhackz
*edit he just said it himself in the video LOL
Yeah, it's awkward. We don't really want to draw those cards early, but we always want to draw them late (or have them to tutor up when we need them). I think adding a couple more finishers could be worth it.
One more boilerbilges and two more mistmoors seems reasonable to me. They’re not exactly efficient, but they can help stabilize the board early
Boilerbiggles. Boilerbiggles. Boilerbiggles.
Say its name
*Michael Keaton appears*
This is driving me GOOGLEDEBUNKERS!!
Insane game against that control opponent. Wow.
It's so tragic. Jank decks never stand a chance against control.
@@JHZech ? Seth won the match not even on timeout, and could have won G1 with slightly different draws.
I think he would have also won game 1 if he stopped impending the overlords and just hard cast them sooner for immediate damage on board
@@tthakshmm3349I think I agree. There are times when playing against control to hold up mana for No More Lies or to impend as an enchantment so the creature sweepers don’t get it, but in this game I think there were turns where having a 5/5 body to swing with would have won the game but impending gives 4 turns for opponent to find an answer.
BOILERBIGGLES!!!! LMFAO. love your videos
He's standing right behind me isn't he?
Boilerbiggles:
I had a pretty rough trip home from work today. 50 minutes instead of the normal 15. The boilerbiggles made me laugh so much. Thanks, I needed it.
That game against Control took over 30 min. No wonder people are spamming mono red xD
I love how you have the untapped client add-on, which let's you check how many you copies of cards you still have left in your deck...
And you don't use it
Wait, I have this?
@@MTGGoldfish yeah, we can see it in the overlay of the video, its along the bottom of your arena client
there's options to toggle on and off that let you see what's left in your library, the odds of drawing a land, etc
@@MTGGoldfishClick the little eyeball that says "Deck" in the bottom left corner during the match!
I lost it when Seth said ‘boilerbiggles’ that’s the funniest one yet!
Personally, I love it when my boilers get biggled.
This sounds like ebaumsworld innuendo.
...maybe it is
It is literally amazing how much seth misreads cards.
Suddenly want to dopplegang into boiler.
*boilerbigggles
Dopplebiggles
"Watch them settle the wreckage"
I love how scary People still are of the settle blow out... and how it feels. When you over swing and walk into it, it feels like bumping your head lmao.
Me and my wife decided to "try boiler biggle-ing" to spice up the bed room...
Let's just say, the paper cut was well worth it.
If you know you know...
I know overlords are more impactful, but doing something like this with the enduring cycle seems nice too
Why only 2 boilerbiggles? And why no blue overlord? It's well placed with a 3 mana impending cost and can help dig for enigmatic incarnation
Especially in an 8 card deck...
What would u cut for it
@@jonarbuckle320high noon feels like the obvious choice, but that's because we didn't see it's match ups. It's still an odd maindeck inclusion.
@@DrAngryMongoose in actual pioneer its needed, but explorer has a LOT less phoenix so yeah.
Seth, just a reminder that you can see the rest of your deck with the Untapped extension.
Seth: Pioneer might be what I want from an eternal format.
Wizards: Time for Pioneer Horizons!
😢
Idk if the community doesn't demand WotC make it like we did with MH
Never expected Seth to be playing Yorion. You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain...
Enigmatic Biggles
For what it's worth, I'd love to see your take on pioneer Doom Foretold! Love that card. And I always love to see more pioneer content from you in general!
I'm so excited to see your pioneer videos since that's what my FnM plays. This deck specifically was one I was curious about so it was great to see it
This was great. I love watching pioneer
I’m all in favor for more pioneer content
As a US Navy Veteran, I welcome your creative pronunciation of bilges.
*Thanks for the Content!*
more pioneer please seth! this was great!
I watch all of your videos, Seth, and I would *love* more Pioneer!!!
Pioneer is the 60 card set I play and I love to see Seth enjoying it like I do.
More pioneer/explorer would be amazing! It’s the best constructed format in arena in my opinion
I've been thinking about getting into pioneer. I would love to see more of the format.
I liked commented and shared to show my support for more pioneer content
More Pioneer! I really wanna raft this sweet pile
the Overlord deck seems sweet, but yeah, my big take away is I want to play Doom Foretold again. would absolutely love more Pioneer format videos
I am a massive pioneer enjoyer! it is super friendly for brewing decks and has a wide meta
Really hyped for more Pioneer! It's my favorite format, there's so much deck variaty and interesting matches
Seth: "...we can get Heliod"
SaffronOlive: "The only 4 mana value enchantment we have is enigmatic incarnation"
53:38 Up the Beanstalk, with 4 life, and opponent has Sheoldred tA, while you have Norn MoM in play. Never change, Seth
I feel like I don't see enough pioneer on youtube. Modern feels dead and standard is great, but Pioneer has been really fun to watch too
Bigle bigle bigle can’t you see
Sometimes your card just hypnotizes me
I came for the biggles and i wasnt disappointed.
All these games were awesome! Totally agree with your comments on pioneer peaking right now
With Doom Foretold you play Beseech the Mirror as well so that gives you 8 Dooms. You also play 1 of cards such as Kaya's Wrath (sweeper), Sheoldred, Heliod/Neva etc. that you can tutor off the beseech.
So I ran the numbers using your decklist and it seems like you for sure could benefit from the addition of more BOILER BIGGLES!
As an erstwhile pioneer azorius control player, I loooooved that second match. I think the cobtrl player played very well, but they were a little too aggressive with the teferis in game 3 given you'd shown dovins veto multiple times in game 2. Still probably better than I would have played, masterfully done on both sides.
I run Settle, cuz I'm wrong. So you were right to be afraid of it, most uw cobtrol players don't run it, but we exist.
I realy want to see u play more pioneer. The format seems really cool atm
And also
Boilerbiggels
exactly i giggle every time he says it. LOLOL
I love the idea of boilerbiggles. I NEED that card!
Seth, you should use the untapped overlay of your deck when trying to quickly see what wincons are left.
Also, so glad BoilerBigles is here to stay!
Boilerbiggles is basically “we have Fury at home”
I love Pioneer, so bring it! It's the main one I play, other than Commander, coming from Modern.
Hey saf, really enjoy your content. This series and others have inspired me to brew up several builds for. My most recent crazy one is an Infinity Gauntlet deck that's mono green Fists of Suns deck. I can post the list and some gameplay against a bot but would enjoy watching it in action against a human. I just added Primal Surge to bust the deck wide open. Salutations and thank you for the endless entertainment.
Please play more Pioneer. It's an amazing format and I enjoy it a lot.
*_A Birthing Pod for Enchantments_*
Let that sink in.
has been sinking in since 2020 xD
It would be cool to see some behind-the-scenes at mtggoldfish videos. Irl type stuff.
I've been enjoying Pioneer for a while and hope you play it more! There's Midrange, Control, and Combo options, it maybe feels like a bit more Aggro than I want to see (though that could be the Arena incentivizing people to play decks with short games), but I don't feel like I have to play Aggro.
"We are a Shock away from winning"
Lightning Helix, High Noon sitting in the sideboard: Am I a joke to you?
The real hotness is exiling your attraxa with leyline to dodge removal. Then sacing your leyline end of turn for value
42:15 Nassif has an answer: Black instead of Red and x3 Thought Distortion X4 Thoughtseize in SB 😂
I love Fable and Boiler tho, so gotta renounce that sweet hand disruption. Double pips in Overlords makes 5C almost impossible.
I've been playing Enigmatic Incarnation deck in Modern since it came out. It is surprisingly good.
Thank you for the pioneer play
I love pioneer. Great content Seth
Of all the times I've listened to Saffron - the boilerbiggles is the only one of his funky language things that bugs me. It's hilarious
You could use the Leyline bindings as a protection spell or even to cheat the impending on the overlords by sacrificing it
21:23 leyline binding the overlord, you then get it back post-wrath
I love pioneer! I’ve been playing a azorious flash tempo list with the new enduring curiosity and it’s been really fun
21:14 I would have leyline bindinged my own overlord to protect it from the farewell. Then, you can just attack with the overlord to kill the narset on your turn and be two,lands and a 6/5 up
Leyline can’t hit your own stuff
@poiri Dangnit, I came here to make OPs comment except targeting my owh leyline binding so it comes back after the farewell and prevents narset activation 😢🤦🏼♀️
Remember Birthing Pod? It's back! In enchantment form!
Pioneer is basically new extended. I say continue with it since it's a good way to expand (extend?) on standard in a way that doesn't go full modern/legacy in its style.
I would like to see some more modern (speaking of) too since I think there are some interesting brews that are untapped (pun intended) with some of these new cards.
Please make a doom foretold deck! I would love to see it. Doom foretold is a cool archetype, like a weird stax piece and I love stax 😅
Yes, more Pioneer please❤
He does it on purpose. He does it on purpose. He does it on purpose he does it on purpose he does it on purpose he does it on purpose hedoesitonpurposehedoesitonpurposehedoesitonpurpose...
AHHHHHH BIGGLES?!?!?!?
I was going to be annoyed at Seth saying Boilerbiggles, but it's utterly hilarious
I’m really looking forward to watching a video if you make doom foretold and viper together.
My biggles are boiled
Like the deck, definitely need to tweak the numbers. Even though the black overlord doesnt trigger beans, it's got to be worth it to get the other overlords back after saccing them.
If I hear Boilerbiggles one more time, I'm gonna shit in my Boilerbiggles
Why not a Ghostly Dancers, or two? Even just in the sideboard? It's another 5-drop to find with your 4mv enchants, if you've 'used' your Hauntwoods already, that recurs an enchantment (or unlocks a door for free) and after that it's just free value if it sticks around. Probably not in a tight 60 card list but in a Yorion toolbox pile it seems good.
Often budget magic / against the odds I’m interested but not overly excited to watch but every single much abrew upload stops me in my tracks. Time to spend an hour watching pioneer :)
Personally would love to see more pioneer :)
Whenever i hear seth complain about colorpie breaks i think: commander decks with less colors already get somewhat punished since you cant splash for anything. With that in mind, especially when it comes to removal, i prefer gameplay being interactive rather than not having anything. In the same vein I realy dislike non-permanent-based win conditions since interaction is (for the most part) limited to playing blue.
during game 1 match 1, you could have bindinged your own atraxa in response to the drown in the loch, then sacrificed the binding to incarnation at end of turn to get atraxa back 10:12
When Leyline Binding enters, exile target nonland permanent an opponent controls until Leyline Binding leaves the battlefield.
@@robertkaszoni1940 Damn! I thought I found a cool interaction haha
I love boilerbiggles, calling it that from now on
I feel like this could use a couple of the Enduring creatures, which could be tutored and sacrificed twice
50:13 Black will get to kill Artifacts with a chase-uncommon from a premium set. Modern Horizons 4 might bring us some nonsense like:
End
1B
Kicker - Discard a card.
Destroy target nontoken creature. If this spell was kicked, instead destroy target nontoken permanent.
You lose 3 life.
Been playing a standard build around the naya overlords. calix + up the beanstalk is a lot of value for them. wish we had the mana base to go 4 color to add the blue for more draw, but maybe in the future we get better fixing or redundency for hauntwoods fixing.
Say Boiler Biggles one more time. I dare you. I double dare you
You are very good player.
More Pioneer/Explorer content, pls!
Seth... Black actually does have artifact removal in commander in Gate to Phyrexia
This is a sweet deck! I kinda start to look into pioneer and come back to a tournament magic in my region. Which i abondon in 2015 tho
Dropping the 2 cycling lands to the fable when you have 3 lands and 2 portable holes in hand seems like a good way to lose a control match up. 😂
Is there room for a Zur in the deck?
Seth just jinxed it. Now we're gonna get pioneer horizons.
I love that when Spbkaso normally mispronounces a name, parts of the community avidly cry about it, but Boiler Biggles is a beloved mispronounciation.
I don't care what its actually called, to me its always gonna be overlord of the boilerbiggles to me.
54:56 "I don't really like this Thoughtsieze... you should only have to discard HALF a card, or lose 4 life" 🤣
BILL-JEZ! BILL-JEZ!