Mecca is a LIE! Here's 10 reasons WHY!
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- We now come to our concluding episode on Mecca, and end with 10 reasons the whole story about Mecca is based on a lie, and is an utter sham historically:
1) 70 - 300 prophets are supposedly buried there, so why can no one find them?
2) Everything we know about Mecca comes from sources 100s of year later, & 100s of miles away.
3) The earliest reference to Mecca is 741 AD, which is over 100 years after Muhammad!
4) The Saudis are now cementing everything over in order to destroy and censor any evidence.
5) Mecca's in a desert, without water; so without any people, or civilization, and thus no history.
6) It's not on the Land Trade-route which goes along the Western plateau.
7) It's not on the Red Sea Trade-route either.
8) No civilizations surrounding Mecca has ever heard of it, until the 8th century.
9) The water from the "eternal" ZamZam well is not provided by Allah, but by the USA.
10) The 5-stages of the Hajj all include idolatrous stones, which epitomizes SHIRK!
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(63,430) Music: "Justice and Fame" by Rafael Krux, from filmmusic-io - บันเทิง
It's not the eyes that are bline, but the hearts
spell correctly
ahhh..!! can't spell blind correctly? Is it a requirement in that you need to be uneducated to follow the ways of Christianity?
Typos happen seriously grow up
@@murgiii9556typo happen everytime Mr know it all
Without lies Islam dies
Indeed! It is not the eyes that are blind, but the hearts.
Keep kissing black stone and pray for black cube
@@AD-ot5ok ...
Keep kissing the statue of a dead god.
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denieth the Father and the Son.
Heart transplant specialists laugh at your Allah's ignorance.
@@defenderoftruth3212you mean ba'al no he lives in the hearts of muslims
It's useless to argue with a Christian just give up.
They are busy believing jesus had blue eyes.
Now I know what Allah means when he says its him who guides to whom he wills and left others in astray as they don’t genuinely strive to seek truth.
Killed it
Islam cannot be defended by the truth. Lies keep Islam alive.
Or when he says: "Is there not a place in jahannam for the arrogant?"
So Allah himself is responsible for people going to Hell
Very merciful Allah
@@basitreyaz6338 Do you have free will, or don't you like thinking?Did you pay for your eyes or did you work to deserve your legs?
In these past episodes on Mecca, there have been a few people who have asked why I do the majority of the speaking. A little explanation is needed here. These interviews are recordings which were carried out in the studios of Al Fadi's CIRA International Channel, and are not from Pfanderfilms. You may note the CIRA logo in the upper right corner of each video. Al Fadi had asked me to present my research on Mecca, which I do in each episode, using my own Pfanderfilms slides, something Al Fadi (like you), is hearing for the first time, thus the reason I do the majority of the speaking, while he reacts then to what he has heard.
When are you going to use these criteria on your bible?
When can we expect a serie on the bible?
We should just believe that zombies resurrected and walked into Jerusalem?
@@alonzoharris6730 Akready dine.
@@wylderose3878
Why does Jay Smith believe in the bible?
Does he have archeological evidence for the OT stories?
He should throw his bible away.
@@alonzoharris6730 theres so much archeology evidence for the Biblical Narrative i Israel it isnt funny. Just give us 1 for Mecca, the pool of bethsaida found. Ao much evidnece found for the Bible, while tge Wuran still has the stories of Alexander the great in them the two horned man dual carnitie or whatever it is. Is it not time for you to actualy stop the stupidity and just Receieve the Lord Jesus Christ as yiur personal saviour, surely the insanity of mr mohamad and islan isnt worth spending eternity in Hell fire for.
@@alonzoharris6730 Someone bought Dawah for Dummies.
The Saudis do make an obscene amount of money from the millions of people taking part in the pilgrimage.
This is obviously one very important reason why Mecca has been given so much importance and publicity as it is a cash cow for the Saudis
And all their ill gotten gains
go to, BABYLON the harlot of ALL cities, Washington.
(In ARABIC: WA SHAYTWAAN.)
We have peer reviewed scientific articles that Mecoraba is Mecca.
That's why no serious scholar takes your claims serious.
@@alonzoharris6730 Serious scholars know that pretending Macoraba was Mecca is ridiculous. Not only do the names of Mecca & Macoraba have no relationship at all, but the city of Macoraba is located much too far south into Yemen. What actual scholars have concluded is that there is absolutely no satisfactory derivation proposed to explain the difference between the different names and different locations for Mecca & Macoraba, and that the consensus that they were the same should now be abandoned.
@@alonzoharris6730 The idea of Macoraba being a synonym of Mecca dates from 1646, and was the result of faulty analysis. No one made any such connection before that. I think it would be more likely that Mecca could conceivable have been a small location associated originally with the Yemeni moon god Al Maqah, but that is also unprovable. If Mecca was a great city, it would have been a major focus of power during Ummayad and Abbasid times, but they were based where most people lived, in Syria and Mesopotomia. You could arrange a dig for these praying prophets and Adam, that would prove it was what it supposedly was, but Abraham for instance was known to be buried in Hebron, why would he travel deep into a barren semi-useless desert, he had responsibilities to his family and retainers.
@@alonzoharris6730 prove it or shut up
Know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.
No truth in religion.
Hebrews 2:15: ...and all those who were set free, who were subjected to slavery all their lives through the fear of death.
Kufaar: no water no civilization
Zamzam: sitting in the corner crying
These two 🤥 will be sitting in a corner crying on the Day of Resurrection, if they keep this up.
@@tyrellrivera the Bible that been hidden by the Catholic Church was publicized to say that Jesus was in fact never crucified. If they believe Jesus (pbuh) is god than they will believe that dajjal is god as they are both humans.
Anyways this video is a joke 😂
@@flashyray4125 The Dajjal may even appear in an image that has been indoctrinated into the minds of Christians for centuries. He may even arrive the way he is described in their Book of Revelation, seemingly wiping out whatever evil system is in place as a crash dummy for this false messiah.
Jay Smith doesn't even know which angle to play from anymore. In his debates, Prophet Muhammad (May Allāh Exalt His Mention) is a con-artist and warmonger. In this ridiculous mini-series, now Jay is saying the man never existed.
@@flashyray4125 lol that’s literally the dumbest comment of all time. Islam is a fraud. A lie. It leads souls to hell. God is not a deceiver. Muhammad is not prophesied in Bible. This alone proves islam false. And then we can very easily surpass the test about bringing a better book. I can list thousands of books more profound and beautiful.
Founder of Islam (cult ) was not idiot , He knew ,how to make idiot .
Meccah: The oldest tourist trap in history
THIS DEBUNKS ALL THE LIES AND RHETORIC OF JAY.
HERE IS A COPY AND PASTE from your bible study on Arabia.
Take note that they ascribe many prophets in Arabia as well and even admit that Moses with the Exodus took his sheep to celebrate a festival to the LORD in Mecca.
And I Quote from Bible Study Notes.
The chief importance of the Hijaz arises from the fact that in it are situated the two holy cities of Mecca and Medina--the cradle and the grave of the Prophet. It is thus the religious center of the Islamic world.
2. Extinct Tribes:
Of the extinct tribes the most familiar name is that of Amlak or Amlik (Amalek). By the Arabian genealogists he is variously described as a grandson of Shem and as a son of Ham. In Genesis 36:12 he is a son of Esau's son, Eliphaz, by Timna. They are said to be first met with in Chaldea, from which they were expelled on the rise of the Assyrian power under Nimrod. They migrated into Ar, occupying in turn the Bahrein, Oman, the Yemen, and finally the Hijaz, where they are said to have been the first settlers at Yathrib (Medina) and also to have occupied land round Mecca and Kheibar.
In the time of Abraham they were expelled from Mecca on the arrival of two new tribes from the South, those of Jurhum and Katura (Genesis 25:1). Later, it is said, David, during the rebellion of Absalom, took up his quarters in Kheibar and ruled over the surrounding districts.
According to another tradition Moses sent an expedition against the Amalekites in the Hijaz, on which occasion the Israelites, disobeying his orders, spared their king Arkam (compare Rekem, Numbers 31:8; Joshua @)--a reminiscence of the incident in the life of Saul (1 Samuel 15). In any case the Amalekites were supplanted in the northern Hijaz by Jewish tribes, who continued there until the time of Mohammad.
North Arabian Tribes:
Among the Arabs Ishmael holds the place occupied by Isaac in the Hebrew tradition. It was to the valley, afterward the site of the town of Mecca, that Abraham conducted Hagar and her son, and that Ishmael grew up and became the father of a great nation. The locality is full of spots connected by tradition with his life history, the ground where Hagar searched for water, the well Zemzem of which Gabriel showed her the place, the mount Thabir where Abraham would have sacrificed his son (Ishmael), and the graves of Hagar and Ishmael. The Jurhum, among whom Ishmael grew up, gave him seven goats:
These were the capital with which he began life. He married a woman of Jurhum. He had twelve sons (Genesis 25:16) of whom Kaidar and Nabat are the best known, perhaps the Cedrei and Nabataei of Pliny; other sons were Dumah and Tema (which see). The subsequent history of the Ishmaelites is lost for several generations until we come to `Adnan, who is said to have been defeated by Nebuchadnezzar, when the latter invaded Arabia. All the Ishmaelite tribes are descended from `Adnan. They are the north Arabian tribes, as opposed to the Kahtanite or south Arabian. One of them, Koreish, under their chief, Kosay, became master of Mecca, driving out Koda`a. Later, as the tribe of the Prophet, they became the rulers of Arabia and the aristocracy of the Muslim empire; and the descendants of Mohammad remain to this day the only hierarchy known to Islam.
7. Foreign Elements:
In Arabia there was and still, in spite of religious disabilities, is a large Jewish population. Before the age of Mohammad they lived chiefly in the Northwest, the two best known tribes--An-Nadir and Koreiza--occupying Yathrib (Medina). After the rise of Islam they were expelled from Arabia; but at the present time there are probably some 60,000 Jews in the Yemen alone
2. The Ka`ba, Pilgrimages and Fairs:
Though there were many houses of God in the country, the chief religious resort even before the time of Mohammad was Mecca. The House of God (see BETHEL) here was called the Ka`ba, which is the English word "cube," the building being so called from its shape. It was believed to have been built by Abraham and Ishmael. The honor of acting as guardians of the House was a subject of rivalry among the tribes. The office was held consecutively by the tribes of Jurhum, Koda`a and Koreish, and last by the grandfather and uncles of Mohammad. These, therefore, correspond to the tribe of Levi in Israel. It is said to have contained a large number of images, but it is remarkable that the nearer our authorities get to the time of Mohammad the smaller is the number of images mentioned.
The chief of these, Hubal, is not named in the Koran. The worship took the form of circumambulation (tawaf), running or marching round the sanctuary (compare Psalms 26:6). An annual visitation was and still is made by those living at a distance, and sacrifices are offered.
This is the hajj or pilgrimage; the same name is used for the corresponding rite among the Hebrews (Exodus 10:9 and often). These religious assemblies were combined with fairs, at which markets were held and a considerable trade carried on. Before the time of Mohammad the great annual fair was held at Okaz, a place still pointed out about three days' journey East of Mecca and one day West of Taif. Here were not only all kinds of commercial transactions carried on--auctions, sales, settling of accounts and payment of blood-wit, but an academy was held at which poets recited their odes, and received judgment upon their merits. These fairs were generally held in the sacred months, that is, the first, seventh, eleventh and twelfth months, in which fighting was forbidden. They had therefore a great civilizing and pacifying influence.
Ref www.biblestudytools.com/encyclopedias/isbe/arabia.html
And crores of money donation from poor nations..
Such a great tourist trap that it’s open to everyone to visit. Oh wait… it’s not.
@@Wakamolewonder you had me in the first half not gonna lie, my mouse was on the reply button... and then I read that last part 😂
It's a giant toilet. The stone where they kiss looks more like a vertical toilet seat.
Correction:
1.I suggest you do your research again on ZamZam water. Yes Acciona (which you pronounced wrong btw ) built the desalination plant that supplies Mecca as a whole and yes part of that water is mixed with ZamZam water for mass production however, the ZamZam water is there. How do I know this? Well I worked with Veolia and was part of the project, I don't need to check the internet I was there.
2.The Blackstone holds no holy value in Islam and the reason people touch and/or kiss it is following what the prophet did. Nothing about sins or whatever, it's not even part of the pilgrimage nor there is a value in touching it. You can read the practice of pilgrimage and the steps to do it and you won't find anything about the black stone.
I can go on but it's getting too long at this point.
Thanks.
Update: September 2023
I worked on the project again, and currently, ZamZam water is all supplied as 100% ZamZam water. (No mixing)
If you found and really convinced that something is not right all you gotta do is move on rather than wasting your time discussing it.
Tq for clarifying.
What is the black stone significant?
Then in the 7th century. And now.
I understand it was there before Mohammed, yes?
I heard some story that Moh and several tribal leader use a cloth move the stone together. To signify unity and togetherness in Muslim religion.
I used the buildings to travel far distances long ago. How many lives do I have to repeat myself?
Indeed u said the truth BarakAllah akhih
@@Jocky8807No one is even kissing the black stone. They are kissing a man made covering, because the stone was stolen, broken and crushed, and only 8 tiny parts exist any more. It's fake!
they are not only blind ...the their hearts are dead...
Allahs heart is dead. Surah 5:33
@@Thesortvokter laugh now you will regret it later and be crying like a little baby.
ALLAH DOES not need a heart 😁 @@Thesortvokter
May Allah guide him
May Allah guide whoever was involved in creating this video😂
😂 when it’s day if judgment they are gonna realised they messed up
Moustapha Fofana
Where does the sun go at sunset?
It goes below the Throne of Allah
Narrated Abu Dharr:
Once I was with the Prophet (ﷺ) in the mosque at the time of sunset. The Prophet (ﷺ) said, “O Abu Dharr! Do you know where the sun sets?” I replied, “Allah and His Apostle know best.” He said, “It goes and prostrates underneath (Allah’s) Throne; and that is Allah’s Statement:- ‘And the sun runs on its fixed course for a term (decreed). And that is the decree of All-Mighty, the All-Knowing….’ (36.38)
(Bukhari).
Let Allah learn what is Sun first.
Then guide you.
I wish the Allah that your mohammed created may not guide you as it will lead into a pit of lies and fallacies. May you believe in Jesus the everloving one.
@@fortniteisthebest9787 these Evangelicals. Their stupidity never ends
lol, they even used a man wearing turban and 'Islamic' cloth talking to convinced us to believe the deluded facts they present 😂
No water what do you mean? The Zam-zam water was always there since the Abrahim Alayhi salam.
Oh really?
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Once I was in extreme thirst, I soon become delusional. When I see a pee from myself, I thought it was an oasis miraculously created by God 🤲🏻
Abraham never stepped Mecca
Historically abraham never been to mecca😂😂
@@TheMemberon 😂😂
I wonder how much money Saudi Arabia makes out of the whole story?
12 billion dollars a year. 320 billion from oil per year for comparison.
@@IslamicOrigins wow!..they’ll want to keep that gravy train rolling eh.
the money spending on air condition are more then that
@Balder let’s hope they’re well paid for all their hard work eh.
@Balder well for starters they don't make nearly enough when compared to an Imam or those who manage the Zakat funds
Thank you for this video! It helps me to not change my identity as a Muslim and keeps my faith stronger!
And this video made me feel so lucky to be born as a Muslim so that I can see how people like you try to question others beliefs....but in the end you are the one with no belief even not practicing your religion very well......May God guide you
But you should really start facing Petra from now on 😂
@@Raxzor
Question others beliefs you say? Impressive thoughts.
Search Jeffrey Lang
Founder of Islam (cult ) was not idiot , He knew ,how to make idiot .
There will be a time when the truth will reveal itself to the blind hearts.
That which is founded in lies will always be full of lies.
I’m so thankful these lies are being exposed.
@@annemurphy9339 without lies islam DIES!!!!
Lies don't lie forever! They'll one day tell the truth! And this is the time!!
Lies don't lie forever! They'll one day tell the truth! And this is the time!!
Islamascam
Al Fadi means in Arabic the empty .. a name that suits you.
Shame on you... Refute him with valid points instead of mocking his name,
Islam is a religion of lies and deception, even you muslims claim that your pagan moon god allah is the best of deceivers, 1400 hundred years of lies and deception is more than enough..
lmao
He actually has very valid points. Islamic leaders must answer.
😂😂 true
Wait, is he saying that the zam zam water is from desalination plants?
Yes, just Google it...
@@musicman5724 there is a difference between desalination and water treatment.
You will not understand brother, if you want understand then you have think out of foolness
I searched it and zamzam well got it's water from underground just like any other well except it is different from any nearby well and it certainly is more than 100 years old
Because of this Video Im very happy to be a Muslim, So many platforms destroying Islam specially media but this not stop spreading Islam Because the Creator with us Allah. This is the true relugion of all ❤. Allah is the only one taking care of this faith. Proud to be a muslim have a blessed day brothers and sisters in Islam.
La illaha illa Allah, Mohamed Rasoula Allah
They arent destroying
They try and fail
@@Mateusz-bn8mdstop lying and deciving
Jesus said the only true god is the father
Jesus is false god
He cannot save you because he couldnt save himslef according to bible
Islam means submission, I hope you submit enough. Hopefully Allah will wink at your rebellious acts and grant you paradise. Or he could choose to lay down the hammer and cast you away. It's Allah's choice, some rebels go to paradise while other rebels are expelled to hell. For every human is a rebel. Yet Allah winks at some and hammers others. It's no wonder why the religion of peace has so many martyr's. For in the act of martyrdom, Allah isn't fickle anymore. One rebels loss is another rebel's gain. Isn't Allah the most just and most merciful?
In my opinion Allah is severely deficient when it comes to the concept of justice, judgement, mercy and truth. He's all over the place, he's a fickle deity. For this reason alone I'll stick with the God of the Bible because he and he alone can harmonize justice, judgement, mercy and truth and he's not a respecter of persons i.e. he's not fickle. He categorically states what one must do to be right in his sight. And it isn't being good for no one is good. He knows we're all rebels. The God of the Bible refuses to wink at sin and he's willing to lay down the hammer upon all. For he is holy, holy, holy and he's not fickle.
@@manofwar2354 Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah. Mohammed is merely a man and prophet and warlord. Christ sacrificed his life for humanity and love of us. Jesus never hurt a single soul and came to redeem human beings
💚 LA ILA HA ILLALLAH MUHAMMAD ROSULULLAH 💚
Prove to me Macca existed in the 7th century.
@@merlinmbuso8448 Psalms 84: 1-10 speaking about Valley of Baka
Takbir 🤲🏼
@@Lovelife28734that doesn't proof any thing it's same if I say Harry Potter existed
Evidence that the original Mecca was Petra in Jordan:
The Banu Hashim were in northern Arabia, which includes Jordan. The Hashemites, who ruled Jordan in the 20th century, belonged to the Hashemite family of Muhammad.
There is no evidence of an ancient city in present-day Mecca because Mecca is not an ancient city. Between 500BCE and 300CE there are many Greek, Roman, Persian and Byzantine geographers who produced detailed maps of the Arabian Peninsula. Mecca did not exist then.
Ibn Zubair moved the Kaaba from Petra to present-day Mecca in the 9th century. Nowhere are there any descriptions of present-day Mecca before that.
It is said that Muhammad used to rest in the shade of the Sahabi tree in Jordan when he was on business in Damascus.
It is said It is between Petra and Damascus.
It is not credible that a 12-year-old boy would travel from present-day Mecca to Damascus via Jordan.
In the Makkah surahs, Petra and the surrounding areas (Jerusalem and Sinai) are described by Ad, Thamud, and the earlier prophets. These places were further away from present-day Mecca than Medina. But the description of these regions is very less what was revealed in Madinah.
The idols of Mecca such as Hubal, Lata and Manat were also worshiped in Petra. This also indicates that Petra is Mecca.
If the treaty of Aqaba with the Ansaris before the Hijra to Madinah was in Aqaba, Jordan, then it can be understood that Muhammad departed from Petra.
I guess a good question, about the water is, how about before those water treatment facilities? Guess they are recently modern, what was the situation before?
You can find a video on this channel explaining that, made a couple of weeks ago.
@@nemesis1291 OK thanks. I saw one, but it did focus on the facilities and how before muhmd, there was no water. But I'll look for it, thank you again.
Did he say Adam was cast down to Kerala (india) 2:34 ?
The transcript says catalog
Yes
Then what about zam zam well, that well also replaced from petra?
It's like Disney Land for Muslims, except no one can find Mickey or the other 300 prophets, I mean cartoon characters who are buried there.
I can't find any non Christian source for Paul the pagan.
@@alonzoharris6730 HERETIC AND TROLL
@@alonzoharris6730 You are not the smartest person around. You can't defend your religion so you try to change the subject. Can you refute what is being said? The answer is no & you are weak.
STOP YOUR JEALOUSY ...HA HA HA
You got NOTHING...!!!
Even the KEYS of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem is in Muslims hands.
@@aaabrams1889 what the hell are on about... What jealousy? Also, you probably don't know the back story behind the Holy Sepulchre.
Whenever Jay says come back too Jesus, I can REALLY FEEL LOVE in his voice . GOD BLESS THESE 2!!! 🙏😇
quran sourat 4:171. O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion, and do not say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the
son of Mary, is the Messenger of Allah, and
His Word that He conveyed to Mary, and a Spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His
messengers, and do not say, “Three.” Refrain-it is better for you. Allah is only one
God. Glory be to Him-that He should have
a son. To Him belongs everything in the
heavens and the earth, and Allah is a sufficient Protector.
172. The Messiah does not disdain to be a servant of Allah, nor do the favored angels. Whoever disdains His worship, and is too arrogant-He will round them up to Himself altogether.
sourat 5:116. And Allah will say, “O Jesus son of Mary,
did you say to the people, `Take me and my
mother as gods rather than Allah?'“ He will
say, “Glory be to You! It is not for me to say
what I have no right to. Had I said it, You
would have known it. You know what is in
my soul, and I do not know what is in your
soul. You are the Knower of the hidden.
117. I only told them what You commanded
me: that you shall worship Allah, my Lord
and your Lord. And I was a witness over them
while I was among them; but when You took
me to Yourself, you became the Watcher over
them-You are Witness over everything.
118. If You punish them, they are Your servants; but if You forgive them, You are the
Mighty and Wise.”
119. Allah will say, “This is a Day when the
truthful will benefit from their truthfulness.”
They will have Gardens beneath which rivers
flow, wherein they will remain forever. Allah
is pleased with them, and they are pleased
with Him. That is the great attainment.
120. To Allah belongs the sovereignty of the
heavens and the earth and what lies in them,
and He has power over everything.
@@mezouarmokh2493 subhanallah
@@mezouarmokh2493 Quran is a lie written by a warlod with few scribes and poets.
Expect nothing authentic from people who bow to stones
Two minutes into the video and you're already wrong. Makkah is all mountains and hills.
"My people perish because they lack knowledge". Jesus save them all
What is a man going to do 😂😂😂 he might not be dead but he is going to die eventually just like everyone
Jesus and other religions are also fake...
Amen
@@muhamadbikwesi4397what do you mean
There is only one Stone that can cleanse us of sins, and He is the Cornerstone of Salvation, He is Christ.
Jerk ... esus!!
Islam would love to prove the SIN of Mecca, but they can't. Especially the history of Mecca prior to Mohammed.
Macca is treasure for Saudi Arabia will fight a very hard to keep it going to make money of it.
@@sallycent6598 I wonder what the Quran says about lying and stealing from Muslims.
Actually Saudi Arabia still can make profits of the Kaaba by making it tourist sight. But I think it will make more money if stays as the holy place for Muslims.
@@sallycent6598 I don't know too many normal people that want to go for a holiday to a place in the desert with a shrine for a cult. Doesn't matter as they consider all Non-Muslims filth and we aren't allowed to go there.
There's literally pre-Islamic poetry mentioning Mecca and the Hajj prior to Islam, let alone the Romans and Greeks talking about it. This channel is full of ignorant nonsense
Water of zam zam was miracle from Allah there😊
You should pray to the city of jorden google it 😂😂😂😂
Most polluted water, filtration plants are installed by America in UAE
Go check for your verification
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They have anything during the excavations. We are talking about thousands of years. If you find some bones, how can you tell to whome it belonged? You can't.
Usually, when you live in environement, you call it home not mecca, that's why it not mentioned alot.
People found that water in Zemzem for many years, way before those powerplants where built.
I have been unable to keep up with PfanderFilms research developments lately, but has anyone mentioned the early Islamic coins bearing the Jewish menorah symbol? Of course, articles about the presence of this motif have made no mention of the Jewish-Christian origins of Islam.
NOT TO BE BIASED.
Here is an account from the Jewish Encyclopedia about the Jews in Arabia...
>>>(my comment in brackets about this account from the Jewish Encyclopedia)
It reads:
Second sacred city of Islam; situated in the Hijaz in Arabia, about 250 miles north of Mecca. It is celebrated as the place to which the Hegira (Mohammed's flight from Mecca) was directed, and as the capital and burial-place of Mohammed. According to Arabic tradition, Yathrib and the Hijaz were originally peopled with Amalekites, who were displaced by the Israelites. There are different accounts as to when this displacement was effected: some say that it occurred UNDER MOSES (comp. "Kitab al-Aghani," iv. 263); some, under Joshua; and some, under David, who it is stated resided in the Hijaz during Absalom's rebellion.
>>> (HERE the Jewish scholars CONFIRMS your denial)
Jews may have settled in the Hijaz after the sack of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar; and it is probable that they came in successive colonies, e.g., after Pompey's attack upon Judea (64 B.C.), after Titus' conquest of Jerusalem (70 C.E.), and again after Hadrian's persecution of the Jews (in 136 C.E.; see Arabia).
(See how long the Jews were in Arabia? They even establish a Jewish Empire there and I been to the ruins near Medina and it's still 'fresh' after 1400 yrs. These sites are still left untouched )
Jewish Tribes at Medina.
The Jews had a very rich and flourishing settlement at Yathrib and built strongholds in the city and vicinity. The principal families were the Banu Ḳainuḳa', the Banu Ḳuraiẓa, and the Banu al-Naḍir. The latter two were known as the "Al-Kahinan," because they traced their descent from Aaron.
In the fourth century Arab tribes from Yemen began to encroach upon the Jews in Medina. They were divided into two clans, the Banu Aus andthe Banu Khazraj. By calling in outside assistance and treacherously massacring at a banquet the principal Jews, these Arab clans finally gained the upper hand at Medina toward the end of the fifth century (for date see "J. Q. R." vii. 175, note).
From this time the Jews retired into the background for about a century. About four or five years before the Hegira the Jews took an active part in the battle of Bu'ath between the Banu Aus and the Banu Khazraj. The Banu Naḍir and the Banu Ḳuraiẓa fought with the Banu Aus, while the Banu Ḳainuḳa' were allied with the Banu Khazraj. The latter were defeated after a long and desperate battle.
Ref www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/10545-medina
HERE IS Rabbi and History Prof Reuven Firestone - Mecca and Arabia in the Ancient Biblical World: th-cam.com/video/ZpXE5T9T5RA/w-d-xo.html
@@aaabrams1889 Concerning the mentioned “Jewish Empire”, I have seen mention of Jewish rule in an area known as Himyar, now roughly corresponding to that of Yemen. In his article “The Rise and Fall of a Jewish Kingdom in Arabia”, Glen Bowersock wrote: “[T]he local population converted to Judaism at some point in the late fourth century, and by about 425 a Jewish kingdom had already taken shape. For just over a century after that, its kings ruled, with one brief interruption, over a religious state that was explicitly dedicated to the observance of Judaism and the persecution of its Christian population. The record survived over many centuries in Arabic historical writings, as well as in Greek and Syriac accounts of martyred Christians, but incredulous scholars had long been inclined to see little more than a local monotheism overlaid with language and features borrowed from Jews who had settled in the area. It is only within recent decades that enough inscribed stones have turned up to prove definitively the veracity of these surprising accounts. We can now say that an entire nation of ethnic Arabs in southwestern Arabia had converted to Judaism and imposed it as the state religion. This bizarre but militant kingdom in Himyar was eventually overthrown by an invasion of forces from Christian Ethiopia, across the Red Sea … No one can look at the kingdom of Jewish Arabia without reference to the Ethiopians at Axum in East Africa, the Byzantines in Constantinople, the Jews in Jerusalem, the Sasanian Persians in Mesopotamia, or the Arab sheikhs who controlled the great tribes of the desert. Soon after 523, all these powerful interests had to confront a savage pogrom that Joseph, the Jewish king of the Arabs, launched against the Christians in the city of Najran. Joseph himself reported in excruciating detail to his Arab and Persian allies on the massacres he had inflicted on all Christians who refused to convert to Judaism. News of his infamous actions rapidly spread across the Middle East. A Christian who happened to be present at a meeting of an Arab sheikh at which Joseph had boasted of the persecution was horrified and immediately sent out letters to inform Christian communities elsewhere. When word of the pogrom reached Axum in Ethiopia, the king there-negus, as he was called-seized the opportunity to rally his troops and cross the Red Sea in aid of the Arabian Christians. But his motives were less than pure, since he and his predecessor had long cherished an irredentist ambition to invade southwestern Arabia, where Ethiopians had themselves once ruled in the third century. At the same time, the negus was able to oblige the Byzantine emperor, who had similarly more than religious motivation for attacking the Jewish Arabs of Himyar. The Persians had been supporting the Jews, and Persia was the archrival of Constantinople for control of the lands of the eastern Mediterranean … The Jewish kingdom of Arabia came to an end in 525, when the Ethiopians replaced it with a Christian kingdom of their own, but the legacy of Joseph’s persecution left its traces in the Arabic, Syriac, and Greek traditions. Persian sympathy for the Jews generally continued undiminished, particularly when they themselves managed to expel the Ethiopian overlords of Himyar on the eve of Muhammad’s birth, allegedly in 570 or thereabouts. By the time the Persians captured Jerusalem, it was their well-known preference for Jews that explains the enthusiasm with which the Jewish population welcomed the invaders into the city, even as they drove out and killed its Christians.”
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In 570 Abraha attacked Mecca with 1000's of soldiers and elephants - after building a cathedral in the city of Sanaa to act as a centre for pilgrimage instead of the Kaaba that was already in use.
THE POINT IS - ALL THIS INFO IS REJECTED BY JAY
because it does not fit into his evil agenda.
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Quran 9:30 states:
The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?
Sahih Muslim 1.352 states:
Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported: Some people during the lifetime of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Messenger of Allah! shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?
Then the Jews would be summoned, and it would be said to them: What did you worship? They will say: We worshipped 'Uzair, son of Allah. It would be said to them: You tell a lie; Allah had never had a spouse or a son. What do you want now?
They would say: We feel thirsty, O our Lord! Quench our thirst. They would be directed (to a certain direction) and asked: Why don't you go there to drink water? Then they would be pushed towards the Fire (and they would find to their great dismay that) it was but a mirage (and the raging flames of fire) would be consuming one another, and they would fall into the Fire.
Were there Jews that actually claimed Ezra as the Son of Allah? And, is this claim even written somewhere in the past and current Jewish holy scriptures. (Torah/Tanak, Talmud and so forth)? The answer is No.
In reality, Judaism's core belief is that the nature of God is One, without offspring or independent aspects/conscious. No man can ever be worshipped as a deity, or as a "Son of God" in Judaism. To worship Ezra the scribe as the literal Son of God would be to deny the true nature of God in their religion. There is no history in the Jewish nation of worshiping any man as the Son of God. In fact, the source of the split between Christians and Jews was that Jesus claimed to be the Son of God. To the religious Jewish people, that claim was blasphemy to them.
According to Islam, the polytheists and Christians commit the sin of associating Allah with others . The Jews are supposedly innocent of this sin since they worship the one Abrahamic God.
However to justify his conquest of the land in the 6th century. The obvious agenda from Muhammad is he did not make a mistake. He deliberately fabricated a lie that Jews worshipped Ezra as the son of God in the same manner as the Christians in order to justify their deaths.
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Were it not for Bani Israel, meat would not decay; and were it not for Eve, no woman would ever betray her husband."
Sahih al-Bukhari 3399: Book 60, Hadith 72
It seems that in Islam. It is always the Jews who are responsible for ALL the world's problems no matter HOW much Allah says "be" to try to stop them. As a matter of fact, Muhammad has Jews blamed for causing meat to decay. What a joke.
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YOU ASKED
Were there Jews that actually claimed Ezra as the Son of Allah? And, is this claim even written somewhere in the past and current Jewish holy scriptures. (Torah/Tanak, Talmud and so forth)?
The answer is YES.
Uzair (Ezra) lived during the period around 450 B.C. The Jews regarded him with great reverence as the revivalist of their Scriptures which had been lost during their captivity in Babylon after the death of prophet Solomon. So much so that they had lost all the knowledge of their law, their traditions and of Hebrew, their national language. Then it was Ezra who re-wrote the Old Testament and revived the law.
That is why they used very exaggerated language in his reverence which misled some of the Jewish sects to make him ‘the son of God’. The Quran, however, does not assert that all the Jews were unanimous in declaring Ezra as the son of God. What it intends to say is that the perversion in the articles of faith of the Jews concerning Allah had degenerated to such an extent that there were some amongst them who considered Ezra as the son of God and they lived in Arabia.
People argue that Jews don’t worship uzair as the son. Yet there was a certain sect at the time that believed uzair to be the son of god (note that this sect is extinct).
Like the TRINITY - It is not written in the scriptures, yet most Xtians believe that God is Triune instead of one - likewise "Ezra is the son of Allah " is not in the Torah.
>>> This verse is restating that Allah has no partners.
This channel is like the blind leading the blind.
On god 😂😂😂😂
More like the blind and deaf leading the blind.
@@khalilbonjol8711 yea momo
@@wcg3569 🥺🥺🥺
One post of nine.
Can u answer me .who wrote bible.show me Adam Abraham .Noah .mosses .isac worship yesus in your bible
Yes we can be a Muslim without touching the stones this are stones nothing more than stones but brother the we are on the path of beliv in allah not the stone we go their because our prophet went their and this are the blessed places of Islam allahmdulliha iam proud to be a Muslim
Alhamdulillah
I went there with my dear wife, twice in 2017 and 2019
Mecca income is depend on pilgrimage.
No pilgrimage income collapse.
Muhammad was a genius businessman who promoted religious tourism to make money for the Saudi gov't.
Mecca does indeed make a ton of money from the travel industry
What about the oil?
Should there be a development of a new city, shouldn't there be any documentation at how the new city was developed?
Even for relatively modern places history is very sketchy
@@jetsetjourneysofficialyeah, I guess world War 1 didn't happen. Was a scam all along 😂.
I have a doubt can u explain the theory of creation of earth and humans described in bible
Is it possible that a lot of these ancient places shifted after one of our world's previous pole shifts?? I'm Christian but I've been reading up a bit on other religions
Muslims used to pray towards Jeruselum until Mohammad changed it.
Al-Aqsa at Jerusalem.
god told him@@mattpowell6291
Evil and deception has a limited shelf life ... Make hay during the limited days of life...It is bound to come to an miserable and painful end .... So let's all come together and ask for forgiveness & bow before our Creator so that we may have peace here and hereafter....
"The are holes in the narratives:
Yasir Qadhi.
"The Quran wasn't preserved "
Shabir Ally
Without Mecca the entire fable falls apart. The Holy Spirit is providing the Truth. Ask yourself if you can hear and learn the truth.
and even in your bibl is mentioned bekka and in the time of kraich they called it mekka
@@mezouarmokh2493 There are dozens of videos debunking this. I welcome you to challenge your beliefs and seek truth, wherever it may be.
@@mezouarmokh2493 dear Mezouar,
I always appreciate people like you. Often muslims are on their apologetic chznnels and christians on theirs. I like it when christians go to the muslim dawah channels and muslims go to the christian channels. Because otherwise everyone just watches the own stuff and confirms the own view to one another.
It's good you bring your input.
Bekka which you mention, appears only one single time in the whole Bible. It is in Psalms 84. Did you read that psalm?
I'd be very interested if you read it and give me your personal understanding of each verse (without muslim, christian or jewish tafseer. Just how you would understand each verse in that psalm 84).
I'd be very excited, reading your thoughts.
It contains 12 verses, it's not too long.
Have a blessed week!
@@mezouarmokh2493 😂 not true.
@@mezouarmokh2493 Baka the valley of Baka is tears in psalm 84 v 6 only 1 time in the Bible but next verse has Zion first mentioned in Samuel ( Hears God) brought up by The High Priest of Israel. 600 BC. Zion in over 150 verses
In The Bible.
His final question: Can you be a muslim without having to touch the sacred stones in the kaaba or else where in makkah? Simpley Yes you can. The pillars of Islam and Iman " faith" does not require Muslims to touch them or even visit Makkah if can't for any personal reasons.
You are right. akhih Black Stone is not pillar. of Islam
A whole city of mecca and it's vast history of spreading Islam from a desert to the each and every corner of the world is a lie.
But trust me brothers a weak man who was killed by roman and hanged on a cross is our Lord and God. Nice comedy.
You cannot give any valid arguments. This is the best u cud do with what u have. If this is true then we are the stupidiest ppl on earth
@johnsword8954.
But going in peregrim to Mecca is one of 5 pillars of Islam.
@@ac8907You mean pilgrimage. Yes it is mandatory, once in a life time. But if someone can't do it out of financial reason or physical disability, then there is no blame on him.
sources:
“And Hajj (pilgrimage to Makkah) to the House (Ka‘bah) is a duty that mankind owes to Allah, those who can afford the expenses (for one’s conveyance, provision and residence)” Quran [Aal ‘Imraan 3:97]
Quran (2:286) Allah does not lay a responsibility on anyone beyond his capacity
How did Jam jam well come up? It is now supplying an enormous quantity of water across Mecca. You also need to talk about it.
I never knew all the water from the well zam zam is pumped in from desalination plants.
I cant wait to swing that sword at the abdools.
Your mangod is called an Abdul in the bible.
There are some great videos from Jay Smith, Al Fadi & Mel from Sneaker's Corner that address the Zam Zam well and the shortage of water.
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Do you have an academic source?
@@alonzoharris6730 @Alonzo Harris I gave you some sources. Watch the videos. I doubt you will as it will shake your faith. Educate yourself by watching different channels
@@alonzoharris6730 Hello Alonzo 👋
May Allah Guide You
According to the Quran Jesus was a Word from God. So my question is was there a time God did not have his Word?
@@tana7256 in the bugining there was the word,and the word was with him(God).
@@tana7256 The word was "be" and he was.
Didn't Bible Mention's Macca as Bacca In Psalm 84:4-7. Did You skip that part?
Because they dont want (Acts of lying exposed) that why they conceal it from audiens
*matthew* 21;42
Jesus said to them,
"have you never read in the Scriptures (before), The stone the builders rejected" ,
*The same stone became the cornerstone* ,
"This is the will of God,
And it is miraculous in our eyes"
John 4:13-14 Jesus answered, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again,(14) but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”
❤️
People never get John, in the Spanish tradition there is plenty of poetry that follows the style of the book: those analogies are meant to teach metaphysics, that which you can't teach about directly, hence the parabolic/parable speech.
sourat 4 :171. O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion, and do not say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the
son of Mary, is the Messenger of Allah, and
His Word that He conveyed to Mary, and a Spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His
messengers, and do not say, “Three.” Refrain-it is better for you. Allah is only one
God. Glory be to Him-that He should have
a son. To Him belongs everything in the
heavens and the earth, and Allah is a sufficient Protector.
172. The Messiah does not disdain to be a servant of Allah, nor do the favored angels. Whoever disdains His worship, and is too arrogant-He will round them up to Himself altogether.
sourat 5:116. And Allah will say, “O Jesus son of Mary,
did you say to the people, `Take me and my
mother as gods rather than Allah?'“ He will
say, “Glory be to You! It is not for me to say
what I have no right to. Had I said it, You
would have known it. You know what is in
my soul, and I do not know what is in your
soul. You are the Knower of the hidden.
117. I only told them what You commanded
me: that you shall worship Allah, my Lord
and your Lord. And I was a witness over them
while I was among them; but when You took
me to Yourself, you became the Watcher over
them-You are Witness over everything.
118. If You punish them, they are Your servants; but if You forgive them, You are the
Mighty and Wise.”
119. Allah will say, “This is a Day when the
truthful will benefit from their truthfulness.”
They will have Gardens beneath which rivers
flow, wherein they will remain forever. Allah
is pleased with them, and they are pleased
with Him. That is the great attainment.
120. To Allah belongs the sovereignty of the
heavens and the earth and what lies in them,
and He has power over everything.
@@mezouarmokh2493 Thanks for proving that your Islamic god does *not* know that the Holy Trinity is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and *not* your Islamic god, your Islamic Jesus, and your Islamic Mary!!!
Was just noddung off & the question hit me, in what script is the Qur'an in heaven written. The one in heaven is supposed to have always existed, but Nabatean Arabic script didn't exist before 5th century A.D., & didn't have diacritical marks until later. As far as I know, the script itself is manmade.
The problem is that you guys look at the Quran as a written book, rather than an oral book that is preserved perfectly in the hearts of millions of Muslims across the world and read in our prayers every day regardless of their age, gender, or nationality (how many Christians have memorized the entire Bible?).
However, it is very interesting that the Arabic script was developed right before the revelation of the Quran
Then the Qur'an in Heaven was written without diacritical marks, just the core Rozin?
@@user-ls8ks7kv8c Does memorizing the Quran making it any better?? It still remains a manual book of murder and hate! Bear the facts and accept the bitter truth about your "Man, the book, and the place"!!!! Otherwise what you are telling us is a wild goose chase!!!
@@chrishoff402 ha, you have no idea what you are thinking you are eons above your wildest dreams
@@chrishoff402 To this day, Arabic books and newspapers aren't written with diacritical marks because if you are an educated Arab, you know how to pronounce the words.
These marks were only added later on when vast amounts of non-Arabs converted to Islam and thus they needed the marks to know how to pronounce the words properly.
And like I said, it really is a side issue, because you can go to most mosques at night during the month of Ramadhan (which is now) and see the Imams leading prayers and reading 1/30th of the Quran word for word every night from memory.
Or type in "Taraweeh" on youtube and see the phenomenon for yourself.
So even if every single Quran in the world was destroyed, it still lives on fully preserved in the memory of millions of Muslims (see for example Quran 29:49)
These guys know so much about islam mashallah! They will prevail
This is the most blatant deceptive vid
@@Nellie-uw2mihow so?
@Nellie-uw2mi fly to Mecca and you will see everything
It's been a full year and the only types of comments are those of mockery no honest attempt to refute any statement made in this video. and the claims made by muslims have been debunked by their own sources such as the kaaba doesn't forgive sin bs.
I conclude that this video has valid claims which i will use to make my argument if i ever get into a discussion.
Look harder, the reason you don't see much correction to this nonsense is fo eg me myself came across this video and thought cool I'll see what this guy has to say...him sounding confident saying be opened minded and answer his legitimate questions was very intriguing to me as a Muslim.
Then the nonsense started to spool out so much nonsense I myself find it hard to take seriously how would you want us to respond he hasn't said anything factual? His belief that historically it was never their because his fabricated Bible says elsewhere? For God sakes he wants us to believe that they had a desalination plant in the 7th century? He says makkah is only mention once in the Quran when it's mentioned countless times he just doesn't know the Arabic language mecca has many names in Arabic including the haram. He wants us to believe mecca is not in a valley 😐 camon man the pictures he even put up their of the clock tower shows it's surrounded by mountains. He wants us to believe kissing or touching the black stone is a pillar of islam plz I lost interest immediately his only intention is to attract the ignorant
Laa Haawla wa laa quwata illah billah
Kiss the Rock of Ages (Jesus)!
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Just remember only one like one chance after Death you cannot come back and ask for forgiveness
Where did the zam zam water come from?
It’s so sad that we humans on earth are fighting on how to worship god, while the truth is we worship him by whatever means we could, we should focus on the actual goal of worshiping god, I think that we worship him through the study and adaptation of reality through science and technology as a way to pray for god that we are good enough to deserve his heaven.
On the “stones” punch line, no, Muslims don’t need to go to Mecca to “be a Muslim” if they can’t go for any reason.
No Muslim thinks about stones they think about what they represent, we do this to honor the way our profit did it, thinking about God. And don’t forget that Stones was every thing in Mecca before the modern days, now after we improved the infrastructure in Mecca, we didn’t want to affect the holiness of these sights and we kept the actual Mountains and rocks that has been used to do Hajj that’s why you see just rocks surrounded by modern buildings, these where just normal lands as everything is just rocks in Mecca holy or not.
Please don’t think I’m attacking you beliefs, you get to pray for god they way you see fit, as long as it’s for the good of humanity.
Let us all get together and worship god through any means that could help us prof to god that We, mere mammals with the simple gift of consciousness , are able to adapt the complex reality to our needs, and that we are good enough to deserve eternal life in heaven.
God will not be so proud of us fighting on simple technicalities on how to worship him, but we must all join forces to do what is best for humanity and our planet.
I really feel embarrassed to think about how we will face god when we nuke each other just to say is it a Cross or a Stone ?
AI Singularity will soon arrive and it will be a great weapon to abuse humanity core Beliefs, I believe it represent the antichrist, we all must be really focused on the goal of worshiping God. Not on why and how. As it could be easily used to turn us against each other.
God bless you all, and I hope we all together can worship god in the best way we could, your Muslim friend from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦🤍
Its sad people fight. But its not us fighting and attacking. Were the ones attacked. The end point is a prophet was sent to all nations. Prophet muhammad سلا الله عليه و سلم was sent to all mankind. With clear guidance how to worship. And that is the correct way. Now as quran says, anyone who prays to Allah will recieve their reward, but that is if people never heard the message of how to worship. Those who hear and disobey will have no reward. 🤷🏾♂️
People who write this long a comment should be executed
@@All_praise4Allah I was wondering whether you have ever checked the historical facts from the video? Because it is really crucial for your soul's salvation, brother. Please.
@@octarinisalim1015 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@All_praise4Allah Too bad. I hope God will make His way into your heart. God bless you
Didn't the storyteller say that moe's wife was a Christian widow who was rich from her late husband's merchant business in Damascus?
@@irishheritage893 I wonder where she got her camels fed and watered at in Dry desert Mecca. Lol Little stud moe got her to move from Damascus to the desert. Lol
@@irishheritage893 I don’t think Ebionites were trinitarian. They were monotheists who did not believe in 3 gods. The trinity has different versions. Mary just happens not to be a part of your version. Although Catholics do almost worship her.
@@irishheritage893 Mary is God? That's a new funny interpretation of the s.c. _"Trinity"._
Enlighten me!
One of Mohamed’s wives was a rich Catholic woman with ties to the Pope. I don’t consider Roman Catholicism or Greek Orthodoxy to be Christian. They are both idolatrous pagan worship with a facade of Christianity. That’s why Islam and Roman Catholicism are so similar.
8:26 topographically... Between Africa and the Arabian Peninsula... Mecca does look like it's in a valley. Was the Red Sea different looking back at the time of Adam?
Which Canadian and American build those pipes we want to know name them
It's called shell or exon because oil wells need water for the poeple running them
All the pipes go directly from the well to a factory where the water is bottled and sent around the world
😂😂😂😂 makes sense right? But not for those people with hate in their hearts.
@@Jubafreemakes sense if you believe it is the Qibla and all the miracles and all prophets went there yeah. But if you're brainwashed into those lies, it wouldn't make any sense for those unbiased, including Muslims who know the truth.
Where Madam Khatiza was lived and 360 Idols are missing from Mecca.
Theory of qibla in Petra is totally absurd... Thousand year ago, we already have trader, sailor, astronomer, traveler, navigator, algebra and so on. It's impossible to replace one mountain to another even back then... How they travel to southeast Asian then get back to their homeland, or travel by silk road from China to Italy and then going back if they do not master the navigation. It's impossible they do not recognize their family, their homeland. What the heck is going on? 🤣🤣 Please mind your own religion, talk about yours only, otherwise we know something fishy about yours.
I saw this video as muslim but now I am Better Muslim alhamdulillah🗿
Then you must be blind and deaf.
His info is based of google :P
@@alanjaf9879 💀
@@alanjaf9879allah is baal
I know you didn't even watch this video. lol, you just came to write down this comment
Ashhadu alla ilaha illa Allah. Ashhadu anna Muhammadan Rasulu Allah.
Man gets 72 virgin women for their eternal wives (sex slaves) from allah in heaven.
What about women? Does woman get 72 virgin men to have sex with in heaven for eternity?
@@canicenewmai9149that’s literally a weak Hadith
@@krisswarner8054 you know how we know, BECAUSE EVERY ARAB BEFORE MUHAMMAD KNEW OF THE KABBA BEING BUILT BY ABRAHAM, MUHAMMAD SAID THE KABBA WAS THERE AFTER ABRAHAM WHY DIDNT THE ARABS DISAGREE
@@krisswarner8054 first of all just because I’m Muslim dosent mean I’m Arab racist kaffer, second when Muhammad SAW said Abraham built the kabba and then fell into idolatry the Arabs didn’t object because they knew it was there for a long time, Mecca was a small town too
@@krisswarner8054 because no one was interested in Arabia, the Roman’s nor the Persians didn’t want Arabia, Greek historian Diodorus Siculus mentioned a place where all Arabs worshiped too, the only place at that time that all Arabs knew was mecca
Thanks bros !!
This single point is enough to debunk Islam !!!
The main difference between Judaism , christianity and Islam :
Judaism and christianity have been digging ,searching and investing huge amount of money to find artifacts, archeological evidences , geographical as well historical proofs to confirm the bible whereas Islam has covered Mecca with skyscrapers knowing that it was a barren desert !!!
There are also trying to do the same with the Mountain of Moses..
Finding the Mountain of Moses: The Real Mount Sinai in northern Saudi Arabia
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Yes, they are damn sure there is no evidence. There is no Mohammed or Allah exists.
Jay smith contradicts himself ,if meca is lie ,how haj is pagan?
@@amin3099
Hajj is an old and pre-Islamic pagan worshiping system adopted by Muhammad for his new religion Islam. The Kaba is a pagan structure and so is the ritual associated with it. The “House" itself is called “baitul Haraam" which if properly translated, means House of Filth or the Forbidden House. Yet you will find all translations translating it as the Sacred house. As such, Muhammad decided to continue the pagan practices of his Quraish tribe such as kissing the black stone or circuiting the Kabbah seven times.
@@amin3099
Haj IS a lie because of its pagan origin prior to Islam and Mecca is a reproduction of paganism as well as a mixture of Judaism!!
A lie cannot be hidden before the sun light
Laaaa ilaaaaha ilaA laaaaah !!!!
1400+and still going strong.
No matter what you day, what you bring..what you think...the truth will prevail!
Keep crying
Great Videoas usual.
Request - Is there much work done on the Tafsir? I imagine most of the stories we have are from the Tafsir which supposedly give context to the Quran. But what are the dates of Tafsir and earliest copies etc? It do they contradict and why are they neccessary for the Quran. Are the Tafsir as neccessary to Sunni Muslims as the Hadith seem to be. Ive seen a few vids recently of Quran only and Hadith followers. They (Hadith Believers) literally say the Hadith are also revelation? What about the Tafsir? What issues do the Tafsir present to Muslims when critiqued. What kind of argument can be made against there validity?
Hello! Tafsir is just simply the exegesis/interpretation of the Quran. It is simply the opinion of the scholar writing it, relying on hadiths, an analysis of other parts of the Quran as well as a deep dive into the Arabic language. Sometimes scholars will borrow from the Torah or Jewish stories outside of the Torah to give more detail on certain stories in the Quran.
And since the Tafsir is simply a scholar's interpretation of the Quran, it carries important scholarly weight but is not considered official like say the Talmud. Any scholar's opinion can be refuted if it goes against strong evidence in the Quran and hadith. So there's no issue when Tafsirs are critiqued, we do it all the time. The scholars are human after all and it is just their understanding of the verse in question.
As for the hadith, yes if we lived during the time of the Prophet Muhammad(pbuh), we would treat them on the same level as revelation, since God Almighty says in the Quran:
"Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination. It is not but a revelation revealed"
53:3-4
However, the difference between the Quran and the hadith is that the Quran is a specific book revealed by God with a specific beginning and end which He promised to preserve (see Quran 15:9 and 41:42) and is for all people and all times.
Whereas the hadith is the sayings and actions of the Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) and many of them are much more contextual. Also the protection and preservation isn't the same as the Quran, so Islamic scholars have to shift through the large corpus of hadiths and determine which ones were actually said by the Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) and which ones likely weren't through a detailed process. However, this is still the work of human scholars and so they sometimes disagree on which hadiths were actually said by the Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) and which weren't.
Whereas the Quran has been fully preserved by the Grace of God and you can see millions of Muslims memorizing it to this day.
@@user-ls8ks7kv8c OK thanks that make sence. Talmud and Tafsir similarities helps. However the fact Hadith are revelations means they where revealed during the time of muhammed from Allah? just as the Quran was or not? I dont get the difference. especially if certain Quranic verses where revealed in specific context to deal with specific situations. But were not the Hadith also specific revelation revealed in certain context to deal with specific situations.
I would understand if the Quran was a whole monologue from God on future and past situations, but it gives present commands and instructions in the present context of Muhammed as do the Hadiths?
Y’all, look it up yourself 😂 These points are flat-out misinterpretations and/or plainly wrong. Don’t base your knowledge upon one source. 👍🏽
Yes.
Agreed
I'm sorry but the internet is the final nail in the coffin of islam...there is no hiding for your sheiks and imams lies anymore...as we all know now that islam dies without lies...
@@eire3215 LMAOOOOO please first educate yourself self imagine saying something like this… bruh u are just funny😭😭😭😭
If you make a TH-cam video or blog refuting all that was said on Mecca in this video. I sure will be ecstatic to read and learn. Thanks in advance.
Islam is the beauti of life mecca is the blessed city of our prophet .May Allah keep our emaan strong and die with emaan
They also ignored zamzam water
1.6 billion 🥺🥺i feel sorry for them
about 6 million people hiding as apostate/ex muslims. 👍
We feel sorry for you.It would be better for you to search the knowledge because it will protect yourself from🔥 punishment on the Day of judgment.☝️
You still stuck in 2010, its nearly over 2 billion and growing faster then ever but you can care if you are dumb,deaf n blind
I hope one day you'll regret saying that
☝️ Only one true God.
Judgement heaven hell Santa Claus seven skies 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕 all I can see is stars and other galaxies and fuck!ng huge universe and we evolve from monkey if you guys can't handle the truth just keep pretending
This channel is full of truth, dispite what the demon worshiping trolls say.
They're actually full of crap, because Mecca is mentioned in the Quran as well as pre-Islamic poetry, as well as ancient ROMAN and GREEK sources.
@@user-ls8ks7kv8c prove it
Read Luke 10:17: demons shouldn’t be a problem for Christians, let alone those who might even worship them. When the disciples said in great joy, the “demons were subject to us in Your name”, Jesus confirmed this by answering: “I have given You authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and all the power of the enemy and nothing will harm You (Luke 10:19).
Yes correct as long you followed his original word......where we at now 2000 eons off
@@user-ls8ks7kv8c Where's your evidence?... Time's ticking...
We'll see that day. Let's wait for that last day cause we wait too. LAILAHAILA'ALLAH
Don't try to ignore Bible Jesus said follow the praised one who is going to come
Good Lord May Bless You Both and open the eyes of everyone to see His Light And Truth rescue them from Darkness
Why
Please can you put the complete episode into a book? Thank you
May SCIENCE, LOGIC and HISTORY guide Christians, Jews and Muslims. Fights would be over if they did. 😢
Islam said the day of judgment is inevitable now i see why😢. Everyone will go astray one day and this video says it all.
It's all well preserved. 😂 But not by God
Yep...you couldnt perserve Islam in a vat of Formaldahyde.
Ha you seem to be quite clever but can you see, hear or are you dumb aswell.....hheeeheeee
Alhumdulillah! the Saudis dont allow names on graves for a reason, the 300 or so prophets would be discovered and we dont want that.
It's not graves that are missing, it's *any* sign of early civilization.
@GH maybe you are lost so far into the lies you should find yourself before it's too late...
@@Draezeth there is no reason why all prophets would be found because alot of people would go there and attack them
Allah is the greatest of deceivers according to the Quran and you got fooled
@@tana7256
Claim debunked, statement rejected
WHAT IS YOUR SOURCE OF INFORMATION?
Which part or verse in the Bible does Jesus say " Worship me. " Or " I am God. " ? .
I am also not convinced about trinity at all, what doesn't matter. This smallness is not decisive, not that important in the first line, don't worry.
Deflecting from subject prove you admit, what they show about Mekka. You are already on a good way of learning success. Keep on.
@@Todeskulte_enttarnt since when i admit? People are just jealous of Islam that they wanna bring it down. How can a God become 3 beings, its a diagrace. A god is god. Like ours. Like none other, didnt need eat and sleep, didnt need a mom or milk. Think about it ya.
@@prinzmohammad4171 _"since when...?"_ "Deflecting from subject" as always this ladies do. You pretend to be heavily braindamaged again, also as always.
That's true about the prophets being buried around Mecca, their building so much why haven't they found any
Maybe because they all buried in MEDINA, a city next to Mecca and you can visit it all.
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Lahaula wala quwatta illah billah what a great story teller!
You don't have a credible argument to challenge Jay Smith & Al Fadi. You have said nothing!
@user-hv2ni4oy5z it could be a different place or do you have definite proof? Which is it?
@@danielzhu1463 yes we have proof that u rather love liars than your own soul
@@I.D.F.are.baby.killers.m8 where can I find this evidence?
@Juan Exodus 3:1-15
The conversation between Moses and God destroys any notion that “Allah” is the God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob.
Allahuakbar!!!
Lilith and I utilized the cube to travel to earth. I've been telling the same story far longer than history presents.
Please make a video on:
• Jesus Christ wasn't white man?
• Did Jesus was really born in 25th of December?
• Was the Bible written according to the speech of Jesus himself?
• Does Jesus a Catholic or Protestant?
• Was there church in Jesus teaching in his lifetime?
• Did Paul fits the authentic teaching of Jesus?
• Was Jesus actually a man or god?
• Did Santa Claus had anything to do with Jesus birth?
• Does Christianity a whitewashed Jews religion?
• Does most Christians really follow the Bible teaching?
and so on...
Are you being sarcastic.
@@X_mano I just wonder...
The color of Christ is brown The birth date of jesus Christ was not mentioned in Qur'an or Bible but theologist will introduce this date after many studies yeh the Bible is written according to the words of Christ and scientists proof that Jesus was not Catholic or Protestant Jesus don't came for religion he came for everyone for humanity Jesus is not only for Christans he is for everyone no at that time there is not a church built but there is places for worship Infront of God the churches are built after the christ Paul gives the authentic words of Christ by the people's at that time Jesus is not a man he is the son of God that's why he is giving life's to the dead person Santa Claus is just a simple person who wears red clothes and spread happiness in the days of Christmas and give gift and help those people whom can't afford their fees and other etc Jesus Christ was born in a Jewish family but the Jewish leaders killed him and after all that people will start following the teachings of Christ and his disciples spread it all over the world no most Christans are only the chirstans but don't follow focused teachings of Bible but they only knows simple things like a ordinary person
What was the color of Muhammad?
Did Muhammad really born on 7,8 October plz tell me the exact one date?
Is the Qur'an pure holy book Muhammad was not educated how he explain the verses ?
Why Qur'an came after many years of Muhammads death?
Why did Muhammad die why Allah didn't raise him up ?
Where did Jesus said in Qur'an that iam a prophet?
Why did Muhammad apologize to Allah to forgive him from his sins? Is he is a sinner?
Does all the Muslims follow the rules of Qur'an ?
What is the place of female in the jannat if man have 72 fairy what women's have?
Does Muhammad said that he is Sunni or Shia?
Does there is any mosque at the time of Muhammad?
Why did Muhammad become prophet at the age of 40 why he didn't born a prophet?
Why Muslims stoning in khaba they are stoning at Satan but that is the place of Allah how the Satan came there ?
Why Muhammad married to Ayesha when she was 6 or 9 just tell the real age?
Why Muhammad married to his son Zaid wife ?
@@relaxationsatisfaction736 I'll try to answer you truthful and fairly.
• Muhammad was clearly an Arab. Descendant of Ismail and Ibrahim/Abraham. His color never been an issue.
• Muhammad was born on rabiul awwal 12, year of elephants, the year when King of Negus attacked Mekkah (571 AC). It was clear.
• Qur'an came down in Muhammad life time. Sahabah (friends of Muhammad) memorising the verses strictly (tahfiz) and correcting their memories through collective readings (tadarrus). What come after was only the canonisation, the writings (mus-haf). It was scripted after many huffaz died in battles.
• Muhammad died because he's only man like us, as God (Allah) said every single human being will dies, any creatures will be banished, then there will be only Him (God).
• there are some verse, but I can only mention one (without searching) in surah al-Saff:6.
• Muhammad and also other prophets are maasoum, clear from sins. But Muhammad was having istighfar (asking forgiveness) as a form of awareness of his servitude and gratitude to Allah, which it be his spiritual credit.
• Muslims are supposed to follows Qur'an and sunnah in such comprehend way (kaffah). They try, but there are challenges and obstacles. If they don't it only shows degeneration and then they're supposed to not call it as part of Islam.
• women goes to jannah along with, following their husbands. If their husbands when into hell they still had chance to enter jannah if they follow the right path. In heaven complain and such negative attitude are already eliminate from us, there'll be only gratitude.
• the terms of shi'a or sunni were not acknowledge in Muhammad lifetime but as he said Muslims that enter jannah/heaven are only those who follow the teaching of Qur'an and his traditions, which some refers it to ahl sunnah wa l-jamaah.
• there are mosque in Muhammad life time. As soon as Muhammad hijrah (migrating) to Yathrib (Madinah) he took a place to build his mosque (Masjid an-Nabawi). Mosque/Masjid simply means place to perform prayers. Muslims may perform prayers anywhere but they're also supposed to do collectively so they built mosque. There are also other mosques anywhere muslims settled in Muhammad lifetime.
• the age of 40 were the age when a man accepted as a mature in Arab society at times. Maybe Allah wanted the religion grew as more _normal_ in the process to be accepted into society.
• throwing stone ritual during hajj is only revisiting the experience of Hajar, and Ibrahim family, doesn't really means the actual Satan was there. Satan and his companion are always here in our (human) veins. Allah made the religion easier, lighter for human being that's the bless to be gratituded.
• Underage marriage was not restricted in Arab society at times. His best friend Abu Bakr gaves his daughter and it was a form affection of between friends like everyone does at times and Muhammad did have that kind of relationship with his two other best friends, Umar (his daughter Hafsah) and Uthman (Uthman married with two Muhammad's daughter, Zaynab and Umm Kalthum), but Abu Bakr only had a little daughter.
• being a widow was a vulnerable situation for women in the society, to marrying a widow meant to lit her dignity. Zayd was not his biological son, and Islam doesn't equalise the adopted with the biological children in family matters. Zayd divorced with her, and was part of his mother's grand family that he knew since he was a kid. So it's like the obligation of taking care something that belongs to you anyway.
Can you provide evidence and proof that Jesus died on a cross and are you also implying that the Jewish faith that doesn't believe in jesus are wrong too or is it just Islam...
Historical evidence exists
Even Quran in 3 v 55 and 5 v 116 say he was caused to die off course by crucification.
Otherwize Allah decieved the xtians as another man is killed and people are martyred😮 for the belief.
Then the empty tomb
From where did the Bible come from, and to whom it was being sent to? Who was the sender, and who was the recipient? -09-01-23
La ilaha illAllah
@Ashish Bagade 112. Surah Al-Ikhlaas
In the Name of Allah, The Most Gracious, Most Merciful
1. Say (O Muhammad) : "He is Allah, (the) One.
2. "Allah-us-Samad (The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need, He neither eats nor drinks).
3. "He begets not, nor was He begotten;
4. "And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him."
@Ashish Bagade Quran 41
9. Say (O Muhammad ): "Do you verily disbelieve in Him Who created the earth in two Days and you set up rivals (in worship) with Him? That is the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists).
10. He placed therein (i.e. the earth) firm mountains from above it, and He blessed it, and measured therein its sustenance (for its dwellers) in four Days equal (i.e. all these four 'days' were equal in the length of time), for all those who ask (about its creation).
@Ashish Bagade are you christian?
@Ashish Bagade did you create yourself?
@@Servant-Of-Al-Qudus I was created by Evolution. Check your tailbone on x ray you so called son of Adam 😂
What makes all of this a bit meta is that there are fables inside fables inside fables, eg the Dhul Qarnain story set inside a larger fable, a revelation that supposedly produced the quran and that is set inside a larger fable of an Arabic prophet, Muhammad, set inside a fictional timeframe and location.
The irony here is that You’ve mentioned “Dhul Qarnain” and “revelation” in the same comment. It’s not surprising, that this seems a fable to You, when You haven’t found out about what this passage is pointing at.
It’s talking about Gog and Magog, which were used as a reference to Haman from the book of Ezekiel and his victory in Gerasa mentioned in the Jewish War from Josephus. The background of this being that he wrote the book of Esther around the year 95 and since the Jews already called Arrius Piso „Haman“, Rabbi Akiva had to rewrite it around 110 ce, so that his son Julius Piso could praise the Jews for fighting the romans and paraphrase himself into the book of revelation at the same time, when he spoke about „the mark of the beast“. Referencing at his father Arrius and his uncle Justus as the new Gog and Magog in the vulgate version of esther, that became canonical after revelation had been accepted earlier.
@@canonjean-mignon4985 No irony, as the version the quran uses is a bona fide fable-version of the story.
@@IslamicOrigins I know that we are talking about fairytales here. I just tried to emphasise on the perspectives of the authors. When 99% of the population is illiterate, You know the writers worked together and competed to immortalise themselves in books, since writing a book back then was equal to produce a secure firewall for the Pentagon today.
The Quran has puns and comedic comments - both the bible and the quran become quite amusing, once You get a glimpse on their backgrounds. Holy books do not only give answers to the uninitiated, they also hint at something else.
Dhul Qarnain being Alexander the Great is simply hilarious. It can only be a joke about the Ptolomies and Cesars. Really, who cares, if he build a wall with stones? Haha
@@IslamicOrigins I mean, are we really getting a grasp on history here? The average age was probably 20 or 25 back then. There would be pregnant 10 year old girls everywhere You look. If You broke Your ankle, You were better off dead in most cases. What makes us believe, the bible characters and church fathers weren’t just the same ruling aristocrats playing sims? Why would the Quran be any different? Lmao, our scholars and experts are the real joke here.
@@canonjean-mignon4985 No idea what any of that means. I stand by my original statement.
It's not surprising that this religion has made such a shrine and made the story to go with it. Religions have been doing this for ages and Islam is no different.
The standard islamic narratic tells us that 300 prophets are buried around the Kaaba. The Zamzam well is very close. Means everyone who takes water from there takes water from a cemetery.
It cracks me up when Jay would say on the speakers corner “It’s so clumsy of you Muslims”. 😂😂😂
By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
He says "Oh Lord send me back!"
Who said 300 prohets were buried there and alive? 1st time I hear such information
even he said they were berried alive while praying 😕😕😁
When jesus as said in all of those bible verses not to worship him, that he was sent, that he follows the comandments of the one who sent him. His god is our god, he cannot do anything on his own but but his god commands him ect ect. That means the opposite of what he said. When he says he isnt god it means he was,?
Jesus Christ is fully God himself according to the holy Scriptures, the Bible... So don't be deceived by your Quran
God is Spirit,,, not logic,,,, u must be born again to understand Christianity,,,, is relationship,,, not religion
@@sharonburrows1680 i wasted 20 years of my life trying to prove christianity as a christian who was against all other religions. But i had to stop trying to convince myself of a lie after reading the truth. The bible is why i left christianity. I did not find islam until years later