Is the ZamZam Well REAL?? - More Meccan Problems with Dr. Jay - Episode 6
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- Muslims claim that the ZamZam well is a pure and inexhaustible spring that miraculously appeared in the time of Abraham to Hagar when she was in search of water for her son, Ishmael. According to the Standard Islamic Narrative, Hagar was thrown into the desert with her son, so how could the ZamZam well be located in Mecca? The well is also, in no way, large enough to supply the current Meccan population of 2 million let alone when multiple million come during the Hajj. Watch as Al Fadi and Dr. Jay uncover the real source of the ZamZam well.
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Zam zam is the start of the chapter of macca and Ismail was just born when they were left there. And Ibra (As) and Ismail(as) rebuilt it when he was ismail was young enough to help his father.
i think they messed up the timeline here, mecca was founded after Zam zam well is available, Abraham did leave hagar and ishmael in the desert, because there were no city or village at that moment, Abraham, sarah and hagar ware originially lived in Palestine. With the zam-zam well, people and traveler eventually gathers and Mecca was start to developed, then Abraham received revelation to build kabah with Ishmael.
and according to meccans, zam-zam is not the only water sources in the city. since it is very close the great masjid, it is always available for the pilgrims and the people around the area. but it is not the only water source. The meccans also has other water source for their day to day needs like any other city in the world. i dont think they use zam-zam to take a bath/laundry/wash cars/toilets. they only use it for drink and cleansing before pray (maybe 20liter/day).
when the pilgrim go to mecca, their hotels and accommodation could go up to 15km from to great masjid, and they use different water source for their need.
Where do the different water sources for Mecca come from? Are there rivers near by? I'm curious.
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Also.. there was no Palestine during that time. It was called israel 2000 years ago.
Also.. there was no Palestine during that time. It was called i s rael 2000 years ago
@@Kyle906-Q8 it was called peleset by ancient egypt (based on 3200 year old document). Israel is not land, it is a name for people who are decendent of Yakub A.S.
The people in Makkah have lived for thousands of years without the desalination plants. And pilgrims to Makkah have been drinking zamzam water and bringing home bottles of zamzam even before they set up these machines to desalinate water from the sea. So why would Jay think the zamzam is from these plants? I started drinking zamzam since 1989 way before Saudi authority started giving out 10 litres of zamzam to each Haj pilgrim. I’ve tasted the real zamzam. It’s delicious! Has Jay tasted it before? Then how can he be so certain present day zamzam is water from desalination plants? If he goes to Makkah today and say zamzam is from sea water, people will laugh at him and will point to him the taps to drink zamzam and taps to drink water processed from sea.
He probably think bottling plant as the plant that produces zamzam 😂
Nice to see Jay Smith n Alfadi together again.
Finally! The video I was waiting for.
Thanks Dr Fadi and Dr Smith.
al fadi keeps deleting my comments so I'll post it again
Islam is a religion of peace , for more than a thousand years now , people have been without a doubt been convinced of Islam's message of peace , the world Islam comes from the Arabic word " Salam " which means " peace " in English .
Fast forward to 18:00 , so the water that comes from Jeddah is not zamzam water , zamzam water is more expensive and is usually not available where as the water from Jedda provides water to areas around mecca and the hotels and shopping malls , they taste different and they have different mineral . Also the water from zamzam comes from the Hira Al Nour mountain , its not from Jeddah
It is impossible for anyone to research zamzam water because non-Muslims are not allowed in the area so any theories or essays on the subject is unreliable , research on the topic is usually denied and prohibited
I'm not religious , I don't prey or anything like that but its clear that al fadi is peddling disinformation and debunked theories , if you are religious than you have every right to be and I don't care what religion or god you follow , you have every right to worship or not worship a God .
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Hi Sina, it is TH-cam that deletes comments, it’s an algorithm that somehow disapprove some words. I just had a lengthy comment deleted in another chat. My comment didn’t contain any insults but some facts that don’t please a certain political category.
It’s getting late, I’ll try to find your comment tomorrow, I would like to discuss few points.
Night
lol
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Hi friend, what’s funny?😆
Allah SWT states in the Quran:
وَيْلٌ لِّكُلِّ أَفَّاكٍ أَثِيمٍ
“Woe to every sinful liar.”
Surah al-Jathiyah (7)
Syeikh al-Maraghi said: “A great woe is for those who lies in his speech and who commit sins. Then, they are arrogant when the verses of the Quran are recited to them.” (See Tafsir al-Maraghi, 13/6285)
This word is also used to describe the fake news and slander spread by the hypocrites. Allah SWT states:
إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ جَآءُو بِٱلْإِفْكِ عُصْبَةٌ مِّنكُمْ
“Indeed, those who came with falsehood are a group among you.”
Surah al-Nur (11)
Ibn Kathir said: Allah SWT states, “Indeed, those who came with falsehood”, means lie, slander and defamation. (See Tafsir al-Quran al-‘Azim,6/25)
Oh Allah hates lies but you guys can do taqiyya and lie when necessary?
Your Allah must be a liar too.
Funny how your Allah and Mohammad copied scriptures of the Bible and the Torah, and claimed it's origination from puny Allah 😂😂
So muhammad was false prophet
Slander in Islam means telling the truth about islam, just like Muslims get angered when it is written that their prophet married a six year old girl kept molesting her until she was nine, consumated the marriage when she was nine yrs old, and still playing with dolls,now this is called slander in Islam for people telling the truth about the perfect prophet.😮.
Refute with logic. I am nuetral but they give logic. You just say sinful liar.
Dear Dr. Jay, I believe there are a lot of error in you historical facts that you presented. I would like to suggest that you challenge Islamic schoolers who are studied the history and the right people who are managing the Zamzam well instead of just based on your assumption that water is being pump in with out really showing solid evident instead of picture of pipe going in to the well.
Why does saudi arabia needs desalination if there has been zam zam well for the inhabitants ?
@@benojojojojo6149 there ARE other towns and cities in Arabia you know not just Mecca, with limited fresh water. Zam Zam is for pilgrims and there is enough of it for religious use at Mecca... the other water is for all uses including agriculture.
I'm a Filipino Christian who lived in Jeddah (Faisaliah District) for more than 20 years. I worked for Al Hokair company as an RTW Visual Merchandiser. It's in Jeddah where I became a born-again Christian via the underground Christian church. I've also been to Mecca several times (because I also did some work in Makkah Mall), but not the area of Kabaa, I only saw the tip of the Abrāj al-Sāʿa tower from the street.
I ised to work with desalination plant engineers. They have several plants at the Jeddah port. Even an RO plant there. They use massive amounts of oil to produce it.
I actually came back from Makkah recently. And someone who is prone to chest infections throughout my life I had one due to travelling and drinking zamzam water made my infection go away with a couple days which would otherwise take a couple weeks. How do you explain that? Don’t listen to people who speaks about things they have no experience or knowledge of. Zamzam is blessed and we Muslims are privileged to be able to drink it. Alhamdulillah.
proof for what you said? Or lying in youtube comment? Where anybody can say anything
A single person getting well on drinking water doesn't entail its real, if it was real then their should be consistent healing on multiple people or all people who genuinely drank it with a genuine belief in Islam
I have cancer, can Zamzam water cure me? 🙃
If zamzam is so miraculous then makkah residents must be disease free, no need of hospitals and doctors in makkah.
It could just be the atmosphere, you were at your holiest place surrounded by other believers. That could make you feel better only by itself.
I’ll make dua that I hope My maker who makes everyone here,will guide everyone in the right path Inshallah.Sometimes lack of knowledge leads people to being a ignorance.I believe that’s nothing is impossible to Allah.
Hope you do duha that your husband get more beautiful virgins in Jannah and you get none
to become ignorant*
Don’t say In Sha Allah wgile you make a dua.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6339, Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "None of you should say: 'O Allah, forgive me if You wish; O Allah, be merciful to me if You wish,' but he should always appeal to Allah with determination, for nobody can force Allah to do something against His Will."
My favorite apologetics duo.
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I'm so late for this, but I just found out this video now. anyway I almost watched 11 minutes of it, and It was interesting for me to listen to what non muslims have to say, but I won't continue because both of you have false information 😅. Prophet Abraham didn't live in Mecca, not even close, he took Hajar there to the desert close to where Kaaba existed before (I don't remember if Allah told him about the fact that this is the place where Kaaba existed or not), then he left. There was literally no one there. People started coming after that. If you study the story of Prophet Muhammed, the whole story is mentioned briefly in it.
Jay says Abraham and Ishmael allegedly rebuilt the Kaaba but in the Quran it says they built it not rebuilt it . Presumably Abraham came to visit Ishmael and Hagar in Mecca after they were cast out and then they built the Kaaba .
al fadi, i absolutely LOVE the expression on your face thinking "oh boy what's jay going to ask me now" so darn funny. another great show guys!
Its funny that Christians think by talking about Islam that will make christianity true but Christians believe in three gods
@@generaljg4373 ONE God Three Persons, and yes Christianity is definitely true, or should i say that the God-Man JESUS CHRIST is Truth (John 14:6) your qu'ran shows JESUS HAVING the SAME attributes as your "god" allah. that are in the Bible.
@@generaljg4373 it’s funny how you think by repeating the same deflection points is a substitute for discussion.
@@godtriunealonematters9207 christianity have multiple gods just like Hinduism its definitely false religion
@@generaljg4373 Homer, you really should look to your own Islam before you cast dispersion upon other religions.
Jay Smith confuse water from well (zam zam) with water for everyday use (from desalination plant). One is pure drinking water (zam zam), the other is salt water which is now so refined compared to years ago when our hair became hard and sticky. Yet this water does not taste like zam zam. Zam Zam has a unique taste. If you havent tried it, pls do! Inside and outside Masjidil Haram are free supplies of both types of water. You can choose to drink Zam Zam or the normal drinking water.
Yes, I’ve been there several times since 1989. Zamzam water is delicious! Back then I could go to the basement to drink the ZamZam water direct from taps installed next to the well. The well was walled off but we could still see through it to see lots of pipes. The basement was cool. It’s a pity they close the basement so now pilgrims cannot see how the well looks like.
Without lies islame dies .......a small well is unlimited and allah cannot do miracles but he ask the American to give them miracles of Sam Sam 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ma Sha Allah. Very good answer. Actually enmity towards Islam blinded them.
Love al fadi and Jay chemistry
Attributing magical powers to water is rife throughout human history, whether it's the parting of the Red Sea or Holy water from Lourdes, humans have generally lost their minds with excitement whenever we dig down a way and find it bubbling up from the ground. Besides, every tourist attraction needs a refreshment stand.
"Our Lady" of Lourdes is a big fat lie too! Catholicism is not Christianity (I was raised Catholic...know all the lies). That would be another great expose.
It shows how much these Polytheists jealous with Zam Zam Well blessed for Monotheist.
O'Polytheists! Who demanded you to drink from this well? It is blessed only for believers.
@@ameenzakariyait's literally fake.
And in the US there are people who believe that the only way to make real moonshine is with spring water from mysterious sources. It's nonsense of course.
This channel seems to only focus on attacking islam but not focusing on their own beliefs. The things they say sound like facts but are infact their own speculations. If they want to know about the well of ZamZam just call experts who studied its hydrology of it and ask. The amount of error's in what they say, like Hagar was in Mecca already is really laughable. These people make no attempt to actually get their facts right and they use their lies or errors to build upon their rampant speculation.
This to educate so many are not being duped
Where did she start her journey from?
She was the wife of Ibrahim and originally left Egypt with him@@JG-il3gp
@@hassanrasheid4618 she was never the wife of Abraham, she was a concubine
@@cherylmartell6625 So, after Abram had lived ten years in the land of Canaan, Sarai, Abram’s wife, took Hagar the Egyptian, her servant, and gave her to Abram her husband as a wife. It is important to note that in the Islamic tradition she is also his wife and trying to label her as a concubine is something that is done for political purposes long after this story.
I'm gonna play the devil's advocate here and ask this question to Jay and Al Fadi; since you guys agreed that Mecca was in existence from at least the 10th century, where did they get their water from since the desalination plants were not built until centuries later.
Please watch the show again as we discussed the fact that whatever they had back then wouldn’t have been able to sustain today’s population.
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An accurate census figure for Mecca, say 200 to 300 years ago will probably help answer the question. And thanks for responding so fast.
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@@nwachinemere7759 I would also the question if Allah was the force behind the zam zam well why do they need desalination waters?
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That's a good question too.
Love al fadis reaction , he looks like he really doesn't know what the heck is going on 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
Thanks Dr fadi and Dr Smith
19:25 Dr. Jay is all giddy and excited with his little pointer stick. Tell me, what makes Dr. Jay any different than an atheist who gleefully sets out to disprove Christianity as myth and lies? Dr. Jay is Basically an atheist when it comes to Islam but he's a believer when it comes to walking on water, multiplication of loaves and fish, raising the dead, water to wine. That stuff really happened right? Riding on a donkey in the night journey is myth, but walking on water is real. Splitting the moon is a myth but parting the sea is real. ????? The hypocrisy is trully amazing.
Even your quaran says that pharoah drowned in the sea.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It is also proven scientifically.
Genis 21:14 Early the next morning Abraham took some food and a skin of water and gave them to Hagar. He set them on her shoulders and then sent her off with the boy. She went on her way and wandered in the Desert of Beersheba.
Beersheba is located on the northern edge of the Negev desert 115 kilometres (71 mi) south-east of Tel Aviv and 120 kilometres (75 mi) south-west of Jerusalem.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beersheba
Distance Tel Aviv to is Mecca is 1.507,3 km. So the two walked over 1500 km in the heat of the desert on just one skin of water?
And then to realize that muslims claim that islam is the religion of common sense. How I pity those poor, lost souls.
Christianity is rational? Jesus is God but the father is also God but you dont understand god become a baby for 9 months then sacrificed himself🤣
@@generaljg4373 yes Christianity is rational, because Christ is the truth.
@@generaljg4373 also, you got your facts wrong. Jesus is God, God the father is God, the Holy Spirit is God.
Those day have no mathematics and logic thinking to them and was not to taught. What ever come to their mind they thought it came from god. It was easy to fool those people in the name of god.
@@Matthew.._ so three gods? Christianity is obviously false
I realise one thing. Safa and Marwa are under a roof with a straight corridor between them. The Zamzam well position is out of that corridor if my memory is correct. How come Hagar was running from one mountain (small one) to the other small one with such a curve? My opinion (I do accept it is only an opinion) is that it should be between those two mountains. Btw, how come they are called mountains? I remember a larger erractic rock in Switzerland and no one was impressed by its size. I never ever had the idea to call it a mountain. OK, it was in a valley from the Alps mountains range. I could see mountains every day.
My bad, the well is damn close to the two "mountains".
Christianity has no historical evidence just fairytales
al fadi keeps deleting my comments so I'll post it again
Islam is a religion of peace , for more than a thousand years now , people have been without a doubt been convinced of Islam's message of peace , the world Islam comes from the Arabic word " Salam " which means " peace " in English .
Fast forward to 18:00 , so the water that comes from Jeddah is not zamzam water , zamzam water is more expensive and is usually not available where as the water from Jedda provides water to areas around mecca and the hotels and shopping malls , they taste different and they have different mineral . Also the water from zamzam comes from the Hira Al Nour mountain , its not from Jeddah
It is impossible for anyone to research zamzam water because non-Muslims are not allowed in the area so any theories or essays on the subject is unreliable , research on the topic is usually denied and prohibited
I'm not religious , I don't prey or anything like that but its clear that al fadi is peddling disinformation and debunked theories , if you are religious than you have every right to be and I don't care what religion or god you follow , you have every right to worship or not worship a God .
Hager after taking rounds up and down the hills 7 times could not find water anywhere for her child Ismael but by Allah's miracle a spring sprang miraculously near Ismael
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Tq Dr Fadi n Dr Jay smith...Gbu🙏
We muslims will never stop believing that zam zam water came from Allah
Wow I can't argue with this even though I want.
This is straight facts 💯.
I thought it was common knowledge by now I understand Mecca has 2 desalination plants and that is the source for the Zamzam water.
It is common knowledge to anyone who isn't muslim. It should be clear to anyone paying attention that non-muslims cannot attend Hajj because the lies would be easily exposed to anyone not pre-disposed to believing them.
😂😂😂 Remain deceived.
It shows how much these Polytheists jealous with Zam Zam Well blessed for Monotheist.
O'Polytheists! Who demanded you to drink from this well? It is blessed only for believers.
Mecca has 2 desalination plants... for tap water😅. The Zamzam well existed long before desalination technology, even before the Romans, even before Christ(pbuh)
The website says 'Water used to be drawn manually by bucket, electric pumps now pump water into tanks.' Where are you getting the idea that it comes from the desalinisation plant?
Great content
@6:28 and @14:00, @16:07 @17:12 I love when these experts do their thorough research, by calling in the experts and showing definitive proof #Sarcasm
Some scholarly research work was going on there. What numpties!
Crazy research from google
Thank you Dr. Jay & Al-Fadi..
The question now is: If the zam zam is a lie, then how can there be civilization in mecca without water?
when & how did civilization in modern mecca first exist?
Thank you.. God Bless..
The city of Mecca is only approximately 200 years older than muhammad. It’s been soundly proven the cities/infrastructure didn’t even exist at the time of Abraham to make the 1,000-mile trek from Hebron to Mecca possible. Camels can carry enough water for about 100 miles only so this journey would have been literally impossible. The Bible tells us Abraham dwelled in Hebron, leaving only to go to Egypt during a famine, before returning home to Hebron. The Torah certainly would have recorded such a miraculous journey had it ever occurred - plus the Bible makes zero mentions of a pagan kaaba or black stone in connection with Abraham.
al fadi keeps deleting my comments so I'll post it again
Islam is a religion of peace , for more than a thousand years now , people have been without a doubt been convinced of Islam's message of peace , the world Islam comes from the Arabic word " Salam " which means " peace " in English .
Fast forward to 18:00 , so the water that comes from Jeddah is not zamzam water , zamzam water is more expensive and is usually not available where as the water from Jedda provides water to areas around mecca and the hotels and shopping malls , they taste different and they have different mineral . Also the water from zamzam comes from the Hira Al Nour mountain , its not from Jeddah
It is impossible for anyone to research zamzam water because non-Muslims are not allowed in the area so any theories or essays on the subject is unreliable , research on the topic is usually denied and prohibited
I'm not religious , I don't prey or anything like that but its clear that al fadi is peddling disinformation and debunked theories , if you are religious than you have every right to be and I don't care what religion or god you follow , you have every right to worship or not worship a God .
Ayn zubaeda is the answer to your question. The ancient cannal system has been there for more than 1200 years. The source of water in ancient mecca didn't come from so called miracalous zam zam well as many muslim always declare but come from tigris river in baghdad through this cannal.
@@annemurphy9339 By your argument the exodus couldn't have taken place.... I mean how DID God feed so many... :)
@@mhussain8298 A simple scripture read answers that question, both provision of food and water.
The discussion never discussed about how the zamzam well managed to support the needs of the nearby inhabitants and pilgrims prior to the constructions of the desalinization plants- this doctor did not give credit to the hundreds of years zamzam water had sustained without those mega structure plants.
Just like many other wells found in deserts all over the world
How much does it cost to make a gallon of desalinated water? How much is a gallon of Zam Zam water cost to buy?
Good job God bless you both. Loved it . Truth revealed.👍🙏💕💕
Thank you God for Blessing us with Zam Zam Well.
It shows how much these Polytheists jealous with Zam Zam Well blessed for Monotheist.
O'Polytheists! Who demanded you to drink from this well? It is blessed only for believers.
It shows how much these Polytheists jealous with Zam Zam Well blessed for Monotheist.
O'Polytheists! Who demanded you to drink from this well? It is blessed only for believers.
He is lying with half knowledge Serching and believing on “GOOGLE” info and only repeating here.
Go and taste ZamZam yourself first.
Once someone brought me a bottle of Zam Zam water from Mekka.
That time there where some birds coming every morning to the balcony for some bread crumps and water.
So I put two bowls of water, one with tab water and one with Zam Zam water.
No bird drank from the Zam Zam water.
Used it for the plants then. (They survived) ;-)
Funny story
You're good in fake storytelling.. why dont you make some comic's..
@@ares8991 How do you know?
Maybe you're a mental intelligence monster?
Lol
@@OrpheusXL because some scientists say otherwise.. and you just a keyboard warrior with no proof at all.. show me the video then..
@Wojciech Geo i dont need to be a prophet to judging good and wrong..
Good episode informative
The pipes are going out and that would confuse him even more 😅
I guess "My whole life is a lie" has a literal meaning for muslims.
STOP IT, IT'S SO HURT I'VE INVEST THIS SCAM FOR A QUARTER OF CENTURY!!!
Christianity is a made up Roman's religion its just a copy of Judaism stories
Worse than that, it's the vast majority of their history for over a thousand years.
Isn't that applicable to all religions and civilizations though?
From a historical anthropological standpoint, who said any religion or culture has to be "true" to be relevant and meaningful?
@@NP1066 not as bad as islam, this religion is founded by an OCD person who liked to control every aspect of a person's life. You can't even sleep on your stomach, or fart when you pray.
How can you tell how much water the well brings?? How do you know how deep it goes and with what masses of water it connects to?
Well, the Bible says Abraham left them in the wilderness of Beersheba, which is 1,300 miles from from Mecca, so....
Jay Smith, why don't you try to refute the Japanese doctor and the German doctor who studied the Zam Zam water? Perhaps you are not aware, and even if you are aware you still refused to be aware, that as per study of the German doctor by comparing it with the German water, he was astonished to find out that the energetic field of the Zam Zam water did not diminish inside the stomach, while the German water lost its energetic field.
Another astonishing about the Zam Zam water is that when he mixed it by just pouring a droplet into a gallon of German water, the latter becomes Zam Zam water. Its energetic field becomes equal to the energetic field of the Zam Zam water.
Now the German doctor is planning to build a plant near the Zam Zam well if the Saudi government grants it with the aim of exporting the Zam Zam water to the different countries in the world. The German doctor considered the Zam Zam water a miracle water. -06-01-23
Good evening brother's God bless you I m from India praise the Lord Jesus Christ
Lol okay
Not helpful..
I never Knew ZAMZAM Wells Water Comes From The Sea 😂😂
Awesome!
This a good information
Such a pleasure Ali fadi's attitude is fantastic
@@mnoorbhai don't be silly
@@mnoorbhai seriously?
The man has qualifications, do you?
And what hypocrisy? He is open about something that he believed his whole life and is being exposed as a blatant lie.
@@mnoorbhai your "almighty" tell lies???
what happens when the Zam Zam runs dry
They will just desalinate some more seawater and claim (lie) that the well still exists.
Truth shall set you free
Which site on the Internet. We can't find it
Love these videos presenting historic facts. Though I'm neither Muslim nor Christian. Actually I'm an atheist and believe it's illogical to be critical of Islam but not Christianity because they're both superstition. So I'm actually critical of both. But I really enjoy it when people present historic facts. Thanks to this channel and the doctor.
Dear friend, Jesus Christ is not superstition. His existence was historically registered. Besides, we can have an encounter with God through faith in Jesus . However, incredulity is like a wall that unables us to do it. Repentance is the door that allows us to come to Him.
@@monicacosta3638 his 'resurrection' and him being 'son of God' cannot be proven though. And that's what I meant.
Maam, this whole 'my God is the true savior' is the real roadblock to peace, unity, and harmony among men. My brand of religion, if any, is it doesn't matter if it's Jesus, Allah, Buddha, Shiva... Our focus should be on love, kindness, compassion, forgiveness, inclusiveness. That to me is more important.
@@winterpurple4587 Dear friend, I respect your opinion but I think that you are a bit idealistic not acknowleging the selfish and corrupted nature of the human heart, which is the real roadblock to peace, unity and harmony among men.
As regards the resurrection and divinity of Jesus Christ, it was testified by his first followers and even now God keeps on working miracles for those who claim in Jesus' name, confirming that Jesus is His Son.
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@@winterpurple4587 pls don't include Sanatan Dharma or Shiva into this, if you don't understand it properly, I can't explain it to you in detail here, but in short we say " Aham Bhrahmasmi" means we all have God inside us,, so you can't disrespect or hurt anyone, and everyone can realize or attain divinity, it's your own journey, no priest or middle man is required obviously, thanks 🙏
Fantastic
You should look into the aqueducts built in the 900s to move Mecca from Petra
Move Mecca from Petra ?????
Abraham was never in Saudi Arabia. Ishmael was about 13 when he was thrown out of Abraham's home near the Judean hill country near Bethel.
@@Ahmed-kz2of Abraham's life is written about from his birth to his death, at no time does he leave and travel to Saudi Arabia to build a Pagan temple.
@@Ahmed-kz2of You suggesting you know better, or just blindly believe islamic lies.
Oh 13 year old boy cry for water and kick the ground
Like a small like
And if his was 13 so why hajar finding water for him why not he himself find water
Nonsense people
He was not 13 year old he was a child
@@Mrhandyart He was 13 years old when circumsized when Isaac was only 8 days old. Try reading the Bible!!
@@shainazion4073 oh in bible I learn jesus doesn't know the hour only father know and jesus pray to father and jesus teach people what father told him
So I pray father not jesus
Very interesting and informative 👍 God bless you both 🙏❤️
God doesn’t bless liars
Don't follow blindly they are feeding you lies
Saudi has the worlds largest aquifers system in the world called the mega aquifers . Just that in itself should tell you they are misleading the uniformed deliberately as he ses just google it
I'd like to point out the contradictions in the story of Ishmael in the bible as well. Where the bible states that ishmael was 16 when they were expelled, yet every description of ishmael shows that he was still a baby. This creates a further problem with the sacrifice story because if Ishmael was gone then how did abraham have to choose between them both
Lie Bible says he was 13 when Abraham was 86 and 14 when Isaac was circumcised
But then the Bible tells the story when she leaves as he’s a bay. Contradiction right there
@@omarSharkfin no.... It literally doesn't say he was a baby.
Nice educational vedio
If the two 'mountains' are close to each other, wouldn't it be unlikely you would see a mirage? Don't mirages occur over longer distances?
I've been in several deserts - don't recall mirages being particularly close...
But Zam Zam Well is still a reality of present not only the story of past. A living miracle.
@@ameenzakariya Miracle of desalination plants.
The argument is not convincing. How do you think the photos in the 1800 or 1900 AD were taken? Putting a date does not mean it was of that time and age. Can you please tell me the date when the first camera was invented? It was around in 1816 and that so was very rudimentary. Then again, if there was water back in 600 AD, isn't it strange that there was a well there at that time?
Do you have proof of the underground pipe connecting the water supply from the sea off the coast of Jeddah? Doubting is good enough, but the proof needs to be based on concrete scientific evidence.
Amazing
Abraham, hajar and Ishmael went to desert present day mecca, Hajar and Ishmael were left their and ishmail was a child then, with time people gathered there and then Ibrahim and ishmil rebuilt the mecca. Zam zam water is only used for drinking nowadays, it doesn't come in tap water.
Scam is the name of the game.
Zam Zam is part of the game.
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It been thousands of years my friend, how come a scam continue that long,
I've been to Mecca so many time starting from 1985 the last time was 2022.
The tast of water is the same , when I say taste the same because it has unique taste,
Now tell me how come this is a game or scam
There is an ocean in the narrative, I loved this
Dr. Jay, can you please tell me where was the technology was developed at the time of Abraham? This technology came long after thousands and thousands of years later after Abraham.
The point is hagar was still in mecca where she supposedly casted to the dessert outside mecca as she found the ‘inexhaustible’ well a FEW metres from the kaaba. If this well location contradicts the narratives, why do you even asking the source of water beneath? If this well is based on a lie, then the water technologies is just to satisfies the thirst consumer of lies ☠️
@@tomshds6882 thank you so much for your lovely opinion. Have a great day
@@tomshds6882 the Ka’aba was rebuilt after the the water was found.
And these filtering plants you are talking about are just a few decades old and hajj over there and people coming there is from centuries. And never have i heard that a Haji comes badk home without ZamZam
This was so good. I loved the methodical questioning of the story. I hope Muslims will wake up and start asking these questions for themselves. Quite simply they've been had.
@@mnoorbhai Can you tell me anything true in Islam, not found in other religions?
@@mnoorbhai you where asked to prove islääm being true, but you failed to make a coherent comment...
@@mnoorbhai blogging theology, is that the flaming homosexuals channel?
@@mnoorbhai alhamdulillah for taqqyia
@@mnoorbhai they korään was the worst reading I've done, just hate and lies. Now I'm reading the reliance of the traveller to learn about sharia and it only gets worse.
Mekka turns out to be a kind of religious theme park.
When he said "if you don't trust your own authorities then go to google. Look at what google says!" I immedietly not trust what ever he says after that. With the way he immediately concludes that that person does not believe in the authorities in his country while he just try to be wise and fair. As if he was try to manipulate the audience
YOU GUYS ROCK!!!!
ROCKING WITH LIES 😂
Wait, who said Ibrahim/Abraham was living in Mecca at the time he left Hajar/Hagar and Ismail/Ishmael in the desert? Mecca was built and grew into a city because of this event. And people took Dr Jay seriously? Smh...
He sent Hagar away with a small water bottle to Beersheba 1500km....
Abdoool..... They were not in mecca .they were in Canaan.
Islamophobics does their mind is filled with hate and jealous , they all are dumb , blind and deaf can't accept and see the truth
@@wicomms shhh polytheist
Yes,Mecca grew into a city after these events
If Zamzam water comes from sea water, what water had Meccans been drinking for thousands of years ? Are you implying they already had desalination plants all that time ? 🤣
His point is not that the well never gave water, but that the water is not inexhaustible or enough water for all the people.
Mecca hasn't been there for thousands of years. It's been created in modern times as a money-making enterprise. And it's working well.
@@peterjackson2625
Dream on, there's historical evidence that Mekkah already existed B.C.
@@jesussaves6625
Don't worry, it is inexhaustible and there will always be enough. And I understood his point perfectly well.
The both of you, I invite you to check plenty historical evidence for the truth of Islam on the 'many prophets one message'channel.
Does deceleration water go bad or does it evaporate I got zam zam water for about 18 year's and it is still good
Deceleration water?? That's a new one !
No desalinated water does not go bad. Any high purity water does not go bad. I’ve been to 50 year old nuclear plant that have tanks of water stored for emergencies that have never been used. And they are still completely pure.
I’ve seen it myself back when you could see the source in the 90s
Without Zamzam water, no human being could have survived if they lived in Makkah. But, you already know Dr. Jay that Makkah was inhabited thousands of years ago. But , habitat started only after Zamzam Sprung
Muhammad was born in Petra which has a river flowing water near it. He never lived in Arab Las Vegas. And the farthest mosque is in East Africa, not Jerusalem, so it makes no sense for Hamas to exist there.
@@sagittariusa7662u have a valid point but hamas is a creation of israel.
These guys are foolish bro
Oh vow. Let me Google history. Well done. Very reliable source.
😂😂😂
Looks like you've never studied isotope hydrology. There is a very different difference between desalinated sea water and Zam Zam water which is paleowater based on the results of isotope tests. This shows that Zam Zam water comes from deep aquifers. Try studying isotope hydrology
I swear of god guys let me tell you about my experience about zam zam water I was in Mecca 🕋 and I travel back to Chicago I have a Heart burn bothering me from sitting down long hour flight. I was resting in my room I drank a Aquafina water and sadly nothing happened than I had to walk downstairs because it was bothering me so much. So walk to kitchen and I find water zam zam water that I brought home I drink it man all my pain disappeared instantly So that is my experience. Good I’m going back I will drank a lot of the zam zam water. Life is about experimenting for me.
a big False
Totally false information by Jay. Abraham did not live there nor did anyone. It was a valley at the time. The Ka’aba was rebuilt after with his son. Even then it NOT was a direction of prayer until muhammed pbuh came (which is thousands of years later) It only became a busier place since this discovery of the water. Lastly the water is free for anyone who drinks it in Mecca!
If we accept the present- day Mecca became the site for the black stone after the death of Muhammed, how did the population of this new town get any water? There must be *some* local source of freshwater (beyond the small zamzam well).
It would be interesting to know, as such wells could be investigated and their date of construction estimated.
Look up it up on Pfander Films and Sneakers Corner, they have done a series, with photographic and documentary evidence.
al fadi keeps deleting my comments so I'll post it again
Islam is a religion of peace , for more than a thousand years now , people have been without a doubt been convinced of Islam's message of peace , the world Islam comes from the Arabic word " Salam " which means " peace " in English .
Fast forward to 18:00 , so the water that comes from Jeddah is not zamzam water , zamzam water is more expensive and is usually not available where as the water from Jedda provides water to areas around mecca and the hotels and shopping malls , they taste different and they have different mineral . Also the water from zamzam comes from the Hira Al Nour mountain , its not from Jeddah
It is impossible for anyone to research zamzam water because non-Muslims are not allowed in the area so any theories or essays on the subject is unreliable , research on the topic is usually denied and prohibited
I'm not religious , I don't prey or anything like that but its clear that al fadi is peddling disinformation and debunked theories , if you are religious than you have every right to be and I don't care what religion or god you follow , you have every right to worship or not worship a God .
What i know as a muslim is that zemzem came before kaaba, then there's a fact that there's mecca haram and between the two mountains and mecca the whole city and zemzem supplys only in the holly mecca them who come visit mecca,
As you go to debate with Islamic intellectuals, it will be easily solved.
Don't pride, we had good answers that are being contradicted to you.
Muhammad is the promised seed of David. 2 Samuel 7-12 says: "When your days are over and you rest with your ancestors, I will raise up your offspring to succeed you, your own flesh and blood, and I will establish his kingdom. He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever."
Muhammad was descended from Ishmael, Isaac and David. His great grandmother was Salma bint Amr who was from the Jewish clan of Banu Najjar. That Banu Najjar was a Jewish clan is confirmed in point 26 of the Constitution of Medina which states: "(26) And the Jews of Banu-an-Najjar shall have the same rights as the Jews of Banu ‘Awf." These Jewish clans and tribes in the Arabian Peninsula were descendants of the Judean clans and tribes that fled the Roman Jewish wars. Banu Najjar was one of these Judean clans, so Muhammad was a descendant of David thru his great grandmother. He may have even been a descendant of Jesus or one of Jesus' relatives. Najjar means carpenter in Arabic. Jesus is specifically referred to as 'the carpenter' in Mark 6:3.
As for building 'a house' in the name of Ahyah, the name of the present Jewish deity, Yhwh, is derived from the name of the Ishmaelite/Midianite deity, Ahyah. (According to Wiki: Midianites traditionally have been identified as Ishmaelites. Jethro, a Midianite/Ishmaelite priest to Yhwh was Moses' father-in-law.). The name revealed to Moses was (אֶֽהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶֽהְיֶה) or ahyah asher ahyah. The name was reduced to ahyah (אֶֽהְיֶה) in Ex 3:14 and then rearranged into Yhwh as it was absorbed into the tribal federation later known as Judah. In Arabic, the phrase, ahyah asher ahyah, means roughly the 'The Living One Who is Alive' or 'the Ever living One.' Ahyah in Exodus 3:14 is the same as Al Hayy (ٱلْحَىُّ) in classical Arabic and it means "The Living One" and it is a name for Allah (swt). The Prophet helped rebuild the Kaaba in 608 CE and he cleansed the Kaaba of idols on his victorious return to Mecca in 630 CE, thus rededicating the Kaaba to the One, True God. It was the Muslims who cleansed the Byzantine defiled Temple Mount and rededicated it to the One, True God upon their entry into Palestine. The area was renamed al-Haram al-Sharif or the Noble Sanctuary. The Muslims also built Al Aqsa and the Dome of the Rock. Both buildings are dedicated to the One, True God.
Walking in the desert would probably require 2 gallons or more of water per day for an adult. Assuming you could walk 10 miles per day a thousand mile journey would require 200 gallons per person or 1600 pounds. You would probably also need some 3,000-4,000 calories per day just to maintain your weight due to the extra metabolic demand. Basically a solo journey without modern equipment and known rest stops would be impossible.
@@mnoorbhai And you've got that one from a book you consider to be corrupted all over? Islam never ceases to amaze me.
@@mnoorbhai great ARAB nations.
There are Islamic majority nations in other parts of the world as well.
Muslims come from all walks of life.
And thankfully there are millions of Arabs who are Christian’s as well.
@@mnoorbhai It also says in that same Bible chapter that Hagar was sent off in the desert of Beersheba with one skin of water. How on earth did she manage to end up with just that over 1500 km further in Mecca? Or are you claiming that that's a falsification of the Bible simply coz it doesn't suit your lying muslim case?
@@mnoorbhai The ashes from the Christians and their churches that muslim have been burning for over 1400 years now? Islam the relgion of peace. Yeah right.
@@mnoorbhai yes and Muslims also forget that Hagar, who was a slave not an Egyptian princess went to Egypt to find a wife for Ishmael not to Yemen as they believe. It’s so funny listening to Muslims defend their faith with stories that are so transparently later than the original sources.
Ah I love it when these guys spend their time dreaming about Islam. It’s almost like their own religion doesn’t satisfy them enough that they need to focus too much on other things 😊
I think many of us are curious about how this cult started that likes to war and kill in the name of their god. We want to understand how a religion like this got started and how it became what it is today. i see it grows because it offers no way out besides death and if you are blessed enough to escape it takes from you everything you had and you have to start all over...no wonder everyone is Muslim.
I appreciate your effort keep it up
Thank you God for Blessing us with Zam Zam Well.
Did you not watch the video?
@@Addzaye I am not believed on video. I believed in prophethood of Muhammad PBUH.
@@ameenzakariya Go to Zamzam. See the big pipes from neighbouring desalination plants going in. But you believe deciever Muhammad over your own senses.
@@subhuman3408 I have been there in 2012. Desalination water is not used for drinking purpose. You are depend on disinformation rather than eye witness. Come out from your shell of arrogance.
@@subhuman3408 Have you ever been in Makkah? I was there in 2012. What else than your arrogance. I bet you never been taste a drop of Zam Zam. All your research is based on your assumption.
We dont need you or anyone to agree or believe. we believe and thats is why we are blessed. we blindly believe although we are far from blind. Allah Hu Akbar
Most springs and wells have a 'never ending' supply of water - because the water originates from rain water falling on nearby mountain tops. For example, there are areas on the southern coast of Yemen where subterranean fresh water gushes in to the salty sea in vast quantities.
Thank you
Hagar running between two hills/mountains? This shows she was not used to living in a desert or desert-type conditions... Two places you never run are the two types of desert...
Once again- thanks for the unpacking - your love for the lost Muslims...God bless you bros...
It shows how much these Polytheists jealous with Zam Zam Well blessed for Monotheist.
O'Polytheists! Who demanded you to drink from this well? It is blessed only for believers.
Why this doc repeatedly mentioned “ Abraham throw Hagar & Ismail “.., what a language .. his not respect the feelings of Muslim ., Hajar was Abraham’s second wife.. ex-slave or not .. different matter
hagar is Sarah (Abraham wife) slave. islam copy story from the bible
So there is or there is no water at Mecca at the time of Abraham?
The cleaning company has become their god😄😁🤣
Is this supposed to be funny
You are exposing Al Islam.
Love the getup
I remember I boss went to Mecca and he brought with him this zamzam water and he made us all drink this water and I was thinking where in the world this came from and I tasted it just to know for myself and I tell you it tasted shit like it’s fishy I threw it immediately.
As a Muslim I believe that the events happen, and Man found a way to capitalize of it. The Most High will Judge every one who has lived. no deed big or small will be left out of ours books.