Hi. I would like to ask if it’s worth to pay almost 400$ for DNA stage 2. I have installed the Akrapovich racing line and I’m gonna do a ECU flash. I’m considering to flash with DNA stage 2 but I’m not sure if I’m gonna notice much difference for that price.
You really will notice the difference as the torque gain in the mid range is substantial 10ft/lbs is a large increase and it’s an area that is used a lot on the road. Top end power gain is minimal but that is at the upper Rev range that isn’t used much. We have maps available for both std / aftermarket panel and the stage 2 but flash would need to suit setup. If you have any questions don’t hesitate to get in touch. Kind regards P3 Tuning
@@P3TuningLTD Hi. Thanks for the info. I’ve got the stage 2. So I understand the mapping is not the same for Akrapovic + stage 2 from Akrapovic and stock filter. I guess it will be slightly different but only fuel injection difference ( as DNA recommends) or is quite more different?
Good increase in midrange torque and you'll definitely feel that on day to day riding, not that it really needs it. I've seen tuners getting a fair bit more out of them as the throttle position is really held back, the afr isn't great from the factory either. It's still early development days, ecu's haven't long been cracked. I'll wait a while till people got more experience with them
Good Morning, Yes at peak power the gains where minimal but if you look at the mid range even at 100% throttle which is what a before and after graph is the gains are substantial. How ever like we always say this isnt where the true gains are, the bottom end and mid range is transformed as the bikes are so poor from the factory not because Yamaha does know what they are doing but because they are governed by stringent emission regulations which forces them to run the bikes very lean from stock and this is why a ECU map is so beneficial to the bike. Remember before 100% throttle you 0 to 99% and the more regularly used positions such as 10 20 30 40 50% etc which are transformed!. Thanks for the interest in our video!
@P3 Tuning LTD you've done a good job, that midrange does look fantastic, where a 900 should be all along and up with the big boys now. Emissions rule all at the minute. I don't think I've ever had a vehicle on factory map for more than a week, changes the driveability completely. Have had to wait with the mt though due to the ECU being unlocked. Where are you based?
@@Dtp2296 Hi Daley, exactly peak power is kind of irrelevant of course its always good to see for the graph but in the real world especially on this bike its the bottom end and mid range and its such a better bike for being mapped, we are based in Liverpool UK. p3tuning.com
@@mandonini_ yes this is BHP accounting for losses through transmission and even tyre as we run a chassis dyno rather than HP which is measured directly from the crankshaft (manufacturer figures). Kind regards P3
Your not joking..i have just bought a 2021sp Jesus the way this thing goes is incredible not even used power mode 1..i run in 3 and only tried it in 2 once and the monster came out in the bike and nearly pulled my arms off..never experienced anything quite like it not even my 1998 r1 pulled like this thing.
is this 118 to 119 from stock? if that is the case the overall gain is laughable. how impressive is the middle range gain though !!! even if I overlook the absolute numbers...the gain in the mid range exceeds 10% (ard 7rpm both torque and power) quite a difference !!
If you are only bothered about peak Hp gains then yes this kit isn't for you. But for someone on the road the overall gains in terms of HP and FT LBS are exactly where you want it. The graph is also only 100% throttle. The gains again are more substantial at 20% 30% 40% throttle for example, again not peak figures wise but in the mid range and bottom end. With those types of gains the kit is worth every penny in our opinion. Thanks for the interest in our video.
Did you watch the video? Go to 1:27 and pause it, and look at the dyno sheets. Massive mid range gains. Between 5500 rpm and 9000 rpm there’s gains of what appears to be 5-12 whp depending on the rpm. That’s a lot, right where the power depends as well. The power curve is very linear. I’m sure it’ll pull quite hard…
The engine was never designed with peak HP in mind, but when you consider the torque the motor produces isnt a million miles away from that of a litre inline 4 superbike it is fairly impressive for a 900 cc motor
Ok, ok, ok.....we know the quichshifter works!
Hi. I would like to ask if it’s worth to pay almost 400$ for DNA stage 2. I have installed the Akrapovich racing line and I’m gonna do a ECU flash. I’m considering to flash with DNA stage 2 but I’m not sure if I’m gonna notice much difference for that price.
You really will notice the difference as the torque gain in the mid range is substantial 10ft/lbs is a large increase and it’s an area that is used a lot on the road. Top end power gain is minimal but that is at the upper Rev range that isn’t used much. We have maps available for both std / aftermarket panel and the stage 2 but flash would need to suit setup. If you have any questions don’t hesitate to get in touch. Kind regards P3 Tuning
@@P3TuningLTD Hi. Thanks for the info. I’ve got the stage 2. So I understand the mapping is not the same for Akrapovic + stage 2 from Akrapovic and stock filter. I guess it will be slightly different but only fuel injection difference ( as DNA recommends) or is quite more different?
To clarify all them modifications and only 1 bhp?
Good increase in midrange torque and you'll definitely feel that on day to day riding, not that it really needs it. I've seen tuners getting a fair bit more out of them as the throttle position is really held back, the afr isn't great from the factory either. It's still early development days, ecu's haven't long been cracked. I'll wait a while till people got more experience with them
Good Morning, Yes at peak power the gains where minimal but if you look at the mid range even at 100% throttle which is what a before and after graph is the gains are substantial. How ever like we always say this isnt where the true gains are, the bottom end and mid range is transformed as the bikes are so poor from the factory not because Yamaha does know what they are doing but because they are governed by stringent emission regulations which forces them to run the bikes very lean from stock and this is why a ECU map is so beneficial to the bike. Remember before 100% throttle you 0 to 99% and the more regularly used positions such as 10 20 30 40 50% etc which are transformed!. Thanks for the interest in our video!
@P3 Tuning LTD you've done a good job, that midrange does look fantastic, where a 900 should be all along and up with the big boys now. Emissions rule all at the minute. I don't think I've ever had a vehicle on factory map for more than a week, changes the driveability completely. Have had to wait with the mt though due to the ECU being unlocked. Where are you based?
@@Dtp2296 Hi Daley, exactly peak power is kind of irrelevant of course its always good to see for the graph but in the real world especially on this bike its the bottom end and mid range and its such a better bike for being mapped, we are based in Liverpool UK. p3tuning.com
look at the 5000/9000 rpm range, thats where most of the magic happens and that's where you ride most of the time. peak numbers are not that rel;evant
Awesome mid range gains. Worth it.
With oem air filter and exhaust the torque gain will be good? I dont want to remove cat.
Yes even in standard trim the gains are very noticeable!
Is it 119ps at the rear wheel!!!!!!??????!!!!o god thats serious....!!!!
Is that WHP or?
@@mandonini_ yes this is BHP accounting for losses through transmission and even tyre as we run a chassis dyno rather than HP which is measured directly from the crankshaft (manufacturer figures). Kind regards P3
I can't imagine now scary it is when it's tuned 🤣 mine scares me stock 😳
Honestly yes you get more performance but because the fuelling is so much better they become so much easier and nicer to ride!
@@P3TuningLTD is extra power noticeable?
@@superchannel6506 Very!
Your not joking..i have just bought a 2021sp Jesus the way this thing goes is incredible not even used power mode 1..i run in 3 and only tried it in 2 once and the monster came out in the bike and nearly pulled my arms off..never experienced anything quite like it not even my 1998 r1 pulled like this thing.
@@P3TuningLTD where u located mate
is this 118 to 119 from stock? if that is the case the overall gain is laughable.
how impressive is the middle range gain though !!! even if I overlook the absolute numbers...the gain in the mid range exceeds 10% (ard 7rpm both torque and power) quite a difference !!
If you are only bothered about peak Hp gains then yes this kit isn't for you. But for someone on the road the overall gains in terms of HP and FT LBS are exactly where you want it. The graph is also only 100% throttle. The gains again are more substantial at 20% 30% 40% throttle for example, again not peak figures wise but in the mid range and bottom end. With those types of gains the kit is worth every penny in our opinion. Thanks for the interest in our video.
Peak power it’s a beats to begin with, I notice with mine it Boggs slightly in the low to mid range!! So this tune would be super bloody ideal
Did you watch the video? Go to 1:27 and pause it, and look at the dyno sheets. Massive mid range gains. Between 5500 rpm and 9000 rpm there’s gains of what appears to be 5-12 whp depending on the rpm. That’s a lot, right where the power depends as well. The power curve is very linear. I’m sure it’ll pull quite hard…
Where u located ?
Liverpool UK
119hp from 900cc is weak!
The engine was never designed with peak HP in mind, but when you consider the torque the motor produces isnt a million miles away from that of a litre inline 4 superbike it is fairly impressive for a 900 cc motor