2022 MT-09 SP DYNO Exposes MAJOR Factory Restrictions MT09
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ย. 2022
- If you have a new Yamaha MT 09, you have to watch and see the restrictions this bike has from the factory. An ECU Flash is a MUST.
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the welds on that exhaust 🤢
If it looks stupid but works, then it isn't stupid
If it's a budget friendly exhaust what you going to expect..
@Adrian Vac your a racisted 😛
@@papasouzas9703
I’d say that the jury is still out on that one.
Pre-flash it made 104 whp which is down a couple of hp on the stock bikes that I’ve seen.
And it didn’t even make 110 whp after getting flashed.
@@MachoMadness069 i have only seen them make 107whp at best, thats why i said it lol. Would love to see some other results if you could share some
Let's recap. The apparent goal of Endy is to build a 3 into 1 header using the absolute shortest primary tubes possible, using collector technology from a H-F garden hose triple outside wall spigot, and then weld it with a $39 E-bay, battery powered stick welder, and using the wrong polarity and 1/3 the amperage for the diameter of the electrodes. Sounds like a plan.
And pre-flash it’s only good for 104 whp, which is down a couple of hp on a bike with the stock exhaust.
@@MachoMadness069 Bc the bike is tuned for the stock exhaust. Rarely see any gains with just an exhaust change.
All these mods do if they add any horse power is move it up in the rpm range where it doesn’t do you any good in normal use. The bad part is 90 percent of the time it costs you hp and torque low and middle rpm range where you need it.
A important thing is it also makes the motorcycle very loud and doesn’t help with the public image of bikers and motorcycles. We need to keep a friendship with the general public or risk more laws or complete loss of our sport. I had a squid come up to a stop by me couple days ago. BMW 900 twin that sounded like a Bahama kettle Drum competition in full swing. When we took off it popped, banged and whizzed!! I am a lover of engines growling though a low restriction exhaust that have a good tune etc. Ugly is conservative for the soundtrack of that bike.
I'm legit about to pick up one of these soon so glad to see this
Great knowledge! There's more then just horse torque gains with an ECU flash
Super video! Very good comparison. Actually I had very similar lines with my full racing Akrapovic exhaust. Then I modified a lot and gained more than 122 whp and 69 ft p torque.
What mods you get done bro ?
I got a 2016 fz09 flashed tuned and man it feels like I'm about to take flight every time. They say the newest model is way faster and because this video I must agree .Thanks for the dope video my guy pure heat
older model has 847CC and the new ones got 890cc so ya its a little bit faster
A sound clip comparing the two would be the deciding factor
So stoked to get my tune from u when I get my bike new yrs weekend
Your knowledge is damn cool brother. 💯💪🏼💪🏼❤️🤟🏽🤟🏽
So detailed comparison and I think Akra it’s more quality and sounds and both exhaust are pretty good performance!
Thanks for the video
Yoshimura redesigned their exhaust for this bike due to ground clearance when leaned over in a turn. This exhaust sits way lower and further out. Just food for thought.
The fit up underneath and a close fit around the rear tire is key. Long Tubes is where the power is.. super shorties are crap..
2023 XSR900 Here.. went with the Dominator HP3 Black which was about $850 shipped from Poland incl. VAT. Long Tube header, dual cans with DB killer. Very nice solid Stainless steel.. saves like 8 lbs? which is significant in itself. Finish is great, no restrictions.. Other Dyno flashes show superb curves... should know in a couple weeks when the ECU is returned.
Damn! Awesome video. Thanks
I have the 2021 MT09 and I can't wait to send it to you. Wanted to join your track day lessons but broke couple ribs and damaged my back. Soon as I get back up and going I'd love to take your class. I know that you have 2-steps for roll racing, would it work off the line for drag racing by chance? Thanks
I have the Akra exhaust on my 2021 mt 09. Although that exhaust sits neatly under the bike unlike the Akra I still love the Akra sound. Have also the DNA high flow air filter and that makes it even better.
Best combo - I agree👍
I was thinking about pulling the trigger on 09sp but 109 to the wheel seems a little low to me. What's your experience with the power?
Akra is 1000 times better than this turd.
Blue Samco hoses on that sp looks sweet!
I've got a 2021 sp , yoshimura exhaust, dna air filter, ecu flash and it makes nearly 120hp. loads better than stock. Definitely worth it.
Your tuner is fibbing. 115.9 is best we ever got with sprint f1. Either you have exceptional motor or your tuner is fiddlin with temp, elev and humid inputs to "adjust" final hp/torq numbers.
Cool video 🤙🏻
I got Yoshimura r77 full exhaust system on my Mt 09.. love it
Very good system and not mad loud
I think that exhaust needs work on the fit against the bike, but I like the GP style can
Nice sound!
What a beast of a bike
Had the full Akrapovic system on my FZ09, loved it. Sounded great and good, smooth power. I’ve had full Akrapovic systems on 4, R6, R1, R1, and FZ09bikes now. Always the better sounding bike compared to same models with other exhausts.
I agree... My '19 MT-09 has the full carbon Akra and it sounds phenomenal! The Yamaha cross-plane with the Akra exhausts best sounding bike IMO
like button smashed 👊
I have the DominatoR exhaust on my ‘22sp. Been searching around for someone to do mail in tune, looks like I found my guy!
I have same exhaust
I have a 2022 MT09SP with SC project CR-T exhaust and stage 2 DNA filter, with Vcyclenut flash tune up I'm pushing 116hp on the Dyno
Tight work
Damn that header looks rough.. I've gone with Akrapovic for my base MT09. So worth it and not that much more expensive (got it for €850).
Looks like it was welded with bubble gum jeesh. Lol
Did you actually tune the fuel mappings as well? Or did you just open up the throttle and removed limiters? I feel like fuel mapping in correspondence with the wide open throttle at various RPM should give more gains?
Very good videos-- Have you ran a new suz gsx s1000 naked ? Trying to compare that with the MT09
Pablo was on ALERT!!! 🤣
Yeah it’s worth it to me. It’s an SP, gotta go premium.
That header looked pretty rough. Love those MT09's though!
Whole thing looks rough!
Reminds me of a line I think I saw on Finnigan's Garage that went something like - "Looks like Ray Charles welded it with his feet."
At least you can say each one is custom. No two will look alike.
I think that exhaust would scrape on the ground on the right hand leans !!! The can part of it looks really low like you could scrape it in a good lean!
If I take my mt09 to be dyno tuned does that include an ecu flash / setting adjustment like what you showed here?
Or do I need to send my ECU out, then take it for dyno tuning?
Thanks for any info
Wish you had ran the bike with the factory exhaust after clearing up the other problems.
I have a 2021SP with the Akrapovic,Sprint filter,and Flash 123 at the wheel
With the akrapovic & dna air filter my tune made 116hp & 91NM at the rear wheel
Not a pretty exhaust, made decent mid-range.....but on a naked bike the exhaust has to look good and what's going on with the droopy silencer ? needs some viagra to lift itself up out the way !
I got a Mivv Gp Pro full system on my 21 MT 09. The thing sounds amazing! Looking to get the ECU flashed next and see what power it makes
Looking to get that one too as I had it on my 2017 mt 07 and it was amazing. May I ask if it was easy to montage?
@@-FlyingDutchman- yeah the headers were a little hard to get to. But other than that, it was a straight fit.
Hey would you be able to work on my 2005 victory hammer? I was looking a getting a power commander but have been watching your channel and wanted to see if I could send the ecu from it to you and if that and more power and unlock more of the bike then just a power commander.
Hi Chris. The build quality of that exhaust is very bad the end can is the wrong angle the welds are well the pits love the mt if i buy one here in England can you sort out my ecu flash and what is the cost. Love the channel. Terry from Birmingham England
Endy is somewhat unknown in USA afaik
In europe they are a bit more well known
A "full exhaust" for me Nt700 is like 300+80 for cat
Quite cheap, but do are the welds
I have the sc project CR-T full exhaust on my 15' with a flash/tune
Really like the mt09 looks really evil looking 👍
mine sounds pretty nice through a vf52 and a 6in dump 😉
What’s the new top speed since the ECU flash?
I'm missing something... Here in Europe mt09 does 115hp stock... Is the power shown here to the wheel?
What's wrong with that bike? the 2022 MT09 base is 117hp stock, my 2014 MT09 dyno'd at 121 hp after flash and tune with the an Akro exhaust. Also did you block off the EGR \ PAIR system?
Did Pablo ever get that treat?
Hi friend can i install power commander (dynojet) in my 2023 mt-09 ? Thanks and good video
My 22 Tracer 9 GT is still factory, and I'm not bored with it yet...
That exhaust is a crime against any bike let alone an MT-09SP
At 11:44 his frame slider cap fell out. Just in case he is wondering where it went ;)
Ok this is bad ass!
Yo where you located I just bought a MT-09 base model but would love for my bike to be unlocked!
All the MT09s that I've dyno'd and tuned have come out at 110+. The best figures are always with Akrapovic full systems and they are 115 to 116. (That's a DynaPro S125LC dyno by the way, DJHP and DIN CF.) Lextek exhaust isn't far behind the Akra and a huge saving, probably cheaper than that system you've tried there, which I think looks terrible. Scorpion full system is pretty good too but still down a little on the Akra but mid-range money. It would be nice to see you upgrade your dyno to one with load control. You get much better IAP and TPS fuel map results from Woolich when you can use load control.
Have you done the dominator gp3 system?
@@gavin3810 No, I've not even seen one of those. They don't appear to be very popular in the UK. But very good price for a full system, I would like to see how they perform as they look quite good too.
Have you got any data/feedback of the SC Project STR-1 or Yoshi yet?
+1
No doubt that you get what you pay for and this exhaust is just too cheap.
It’s not nicely made + the numbers really leave something to be desired.
I’d go as far as saying that you can probably get the same 109 hp with the standard exhaust, since it’s only a couple of hp more than what a 100% stock bike puts down.
Fine for making the bike louder and you save a bit of weight, but it doesn’t really add any performance.
Very cool!😊😊😊
Baffle made no difference in sound lol, it is not the exhaust I would have chosen. I love the small black cans that Austin Racing and SC project does for example. Any small exhaust like those for less money should do the trick. They sound the loudest on most bikes and weigh nothing compared to other exhaust brands.
What is the most rear wheel power anyone has gotten on the MT-09 engine without going stupid expensive like a turbo kit ? Can you reach between 130-140 rear wheel horsepower on the MT-09 engine below 3000$/€ ?
that welding looks like it's added a couple of pounds on it's own lol!
Looks like Steeve Wonder did the wields on that headder
Is it honestly worth getting the insurance for shipping.
The SP is not a cheap add-on, might as well get the gucci parts for it imo. I really like my Black Widow exhaust on my Fz09. The welds look fantastic and fitment is excellent. They are out of the UK and very budget friendly.
UK product 🤢
Yeah the sp is a grand more which is pretty good for what you get ohlins rear shock and cruise control
@@gavin3810 Absolutely. They are very sharp in person.
@@Robert_Paulson1360 yeah it's been the best motorcycle I've ever owned
Black Widow is a nice ass exhaust. My buddy has one on his gen 2 09
I got a 2018 tracer 900 and do not think it's worth it to mod the bike. Surprisingly I get 55 mpg with the thing loaded with camping or road trip gear. Perfect bike in stock form. Suspension could be a bit better though.
Bike is dang good stock! All these guys throwing around numbers, most never use them to that capability. Kinda like having a ten inch *^ck, but can’t use it.
2015 FZ-09 were making 115 hp and 64 ft-lb with 43cc less engine capacity.
That's the difference between a crappy exhaust system and a good one.
Yeah the Akrapovic is worth double the price because it sounds ten times better. I dont like the way Akrapovic pipes sound on a lot of motorcycles but it's by far the best sounding exhaust that I've heard on a MT 09.
I got a '22 SP in Feb, only put 400 miles on it, my least favorite bike. Gotta get the suspension dialed in, I guess, way too much head shake
Heyy, you better give that doggy a treat
Is this how much power my ‘22 XSR900 will make? I have the yoshi full exhaust
Wen cbr nitrous video?
Ok, my 2c worth. That exhaust just looks poorly made, I have a Black widow (UK) system on my tracer it's a work of art, a pleasure to look at. The baffle has a large exit area and it really howls when removed. In saying that I'm sure the Spanish system is umm, more cost effective than an Akrapovc, and with the midrange power advantage . . .
im still looking for the cs racing exhaust from the second gens to be made for the 3rd gens
Stay away from those......Mr. Moore has proven they're garbage......
What are your thoughts on that engine ice? Does it actually make a difference?
My son put engine ice in his dual sport and his fan doesn't run near as much when were trail riding as it did before so I would say absolutely.
They buy an sp, then do all the other stuff and decide... nah I’m gonna try and save 700 dollars now..... ?????
Get that horsepower extracted Dr Moore .PhD of horsepower giving a lesson for free
What are the ETV numbers post flash?
The company given Hp nos is more than the actual Hp which it churns out in the Dyno, why is it that so??
How is he shifting into first without the clutch?
what about a sweet little RACETOOL Turbo set-up and 188 HP on that MT09...!!
So a full exhaust and 2 days of dyno gained 2 hp and 2 ft lb over stock map & stock exhaust. (CycleWorld dyno)
What are the pros and cons about the closed loop for the O2 sensor?
Any risk of cutting this option?
Besides killing your cat, burning fuel like crazy, and pumping unburnt HC directly into your air and water?
Sorry for saying this guys.
I had the previous mt09 sp with ecu flash
And now i have the new mt09 sp
All my bikes were with flashed ecu.
Believe me factories now they give you the best u can afford and also with warranty (gasoline quality weather conditions etc) .
I wanna say if u are a good driver ,these bikes now are supreme designed u don't need to waste money for now.let pass some 5 years and talk again.
Corners need hands and mind
Why the yamaha says that from the factory has 118hp and on the dyno shows 104hp?
I really like the stock exhaust on my mt09 sp, wondering if the ECU flash would be worthwhile? I don't like the on/off throttle transition in first gear with the nosediving effect and overall it feels more restricted from engine management than from the OE exhaust.
Yes
1-3hp gains but more the changes in the throttle stuff
Could Rev some chris
So a 4% increase in power?
Had to cut this video short when you failed to give the dog a treat 🤨
There is no substitute for horsepower but if you need to save money then it probably would be good for that.
If you want to save money you could probably get pretty much the same power by flashing a bike with the stock exhaust.
@@MachoMadness069 true a pipe don't give you much power a real good pipe only gives up around 10 or so hp. So its not a big deal. I would do a lot of stuff at the same time that makes a lot more power so the pipe is more about tuning than horse power. But most people think it's going to be all the power in the world.
Yeah even the dominator gp3 is a much better system and it's only 500 usd
I had a 93 GSXR 1100 and most people know it is the slowest GSXR ever made but mine ran 7sec in the quarter and would run way over 200 top end in fact a friend of mine that works for the sheriff clocked it at 217 and I had 2300 left on the tack. But I ran out of road and had to slow down.
@@SVSecondChance
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How u manage to get full exhaust when nobody else seems to have any parts available for months. In the whole country...?.
Because he owns a shop
@@Fzee_Dre my guy owns a shop as well, it's not the shop parts are just not available because China and the US are beefing, same with cars the wait time is about a year if its not on the dealer floor...
It's from spain?
Which exhaust is that?
I had the akra race exhaust and stubby carbon can on my MT09. Sounded excellent and looked like it was made for the bike because it was. That exhaust there is a dogs dinner, looks dreadful. Who would put that on an SP? I just spent £1000 on a titanium Akra can for my 2022 MT10 and saving up for the titanium mid pipe which is another £750. Buy cheap, buy twice.
honestly quite a disappointment... the smaller 847cc predecessor can pull 125HP (with 99Nm torque) on the wheel, with an acropovic titanium exhaust (with modified DB-killer) and a K&N air filter.
so to see the bigger badder newer 890CC engine making about 15 HP less...
i want to know what is your altitude where you dyno'd this bike? my bike was dyno'd by a professional tuner who does actual track racing bikes aswell, and the 125HP was tested on other test benches aswell to confirm it. all done at sea level.
Holy sh%t. I just watched a stretched MT09 run a 8.9 second 1/4 mile. Cycle Drag.
An MT-09 SP w/exhaust and tune from you guys has to be one of the best naked muscle bikes available. The throttle will be touchy though haha a hair-trigger under that front wheel.
I'm wanting them to tune my 2021. Wanting to attend Chris's drag racing school this year.
Do you lose the Mode and traction controls after flashed?
@superpedro4691 no, his features are better. He can install a 2 step also and it still has all the factory settings
Can you do a 2022 Yamaha mt10 yet?
Is that the one with the r1 09 engine?
I recently had my MT-09 SP remapped and fine-tuned. However, following the tune-up, the cruise control ceased functioning and the cc-indicator light started blinking. Anyone have suggestions on how to resolve this issue?
It's uncorfunate, but I believe flashing the UCU leaves in a bit of a twighlight zone. I am loomimv into it myself (warranty issues and dealer ability to fix the elctronics versus the be efits of the flash).
Check microswtches at all cruise cancel points. Clutch, brakes. One of them is prob not set correctly.
Do not have AIS shutoff or disconnected or it will render cruise control inoperative.
If you install ais blockoff plates your cruise wont work.
Same for mine, no codes and not sure how to make it work. Guess it just doesn't with the ecu flash done to it
Wtf is that exhaust throw it away
Just sent you an email after seing this 😅
you can modificate the OEM exaust and will be beter , zero money !! and back sproket 46 not 45 you will see , chain 525 !