Alec Baldwin Behavior Analysis | Rust Movie Shooting
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- #AlecBaldwin's defense claims Baldwin was just an actor and that he is not in charge of safety on the set of #Rust. Court TV's Vinnie Politan and experts analyze Baldwin's behavior during the Rust movie shooting investigation and the #AlecBaldwinManslaughterTrial.
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I've worked on movies on this set. 100% someone switched that round for a real bullet.
Someone switched the bullets I do not think it was Alex Baldwin.
How does live ammo get onto a movie set? How does it get in the gun? Why wasn't the gun checked immediately before it was handed to the actor? Why didn't the actor check it when it was handed to him? So many stupid mistakes here.
I think somebody wants Alec Baldwin to become prison because he was acting Trump very, very well.
@@grungestoryteller🎯
I can not understand how Baldwin can be responsible for this tragic accident. A line of ppl had the responsibility to check/double check the weapon, not him.
Alex says the gun should have been empty. As indeed it should have. He should have checked. Seeing that stoner armorer, I wouldn't have trusted her word for a second. Looked and behaved like a teenager.
Bring a child to court? It's insanely ridiculous! He wants to show off the child for the jury to see. A way of asking for their sympathy, compassion for him, to pity him because he produced so many kids. I don't favor kids to be in the courtroom. It's a place they don't belong.
I think his wife is breastfeeding. I’ve seen them carry the baby in but I haven’t seen a baby in the courtroom. There was a nanny/babysitter with them too. Don’t forget this isn’t around the corner from home.
Hannah Guteras is being victimised but Baldwin is allowed to get away with it because hes a big time celebrity
It was her literal job. If she couldn’t keep them locked up safe when she was doing prop work when they were not using any weapons, then she should’ve just said she couldn’t do the props too. And never mind the fact that she may well have brought the real bullets never intending them to get in a gun. They needed extras to be in the gun belts, and she was short on dummy rounds.
Have you seen any of her own trial? Jw
Lol her job is "don't let people get shot" his job is to act like he's shooting a gun.
Which one didn't do their job?
Watch her trial. She is not a victim. Halyana is the victim
It hurts me so much to watch this. There NEVER should have been ANY live rounds in that gun, let alone on the movie set. I believe that the crew practiced with live rounds “for fun” when not rehearsing but no one admitted it. Alec would have probably checked that gun himself if someone was going to point that gun at him during that scene. HOWEVER, ultimately, it was the job of the armorer to ensure the safety of that gun.
Someone said something to that effect that they would practice with live rounds but idk where I saw it.
There were supposed to be zero live rounds on set. Guns were used for practice but not this one. Nobody knows how it happened but live rounds were placed where the dummy rounds were kept. And the armorer didn’t catch it when she loaded the gun.
So either the armorer did it on purpose, it was sabotage, or a crazy mistake.
The Outtakes of Baldwin Galloping Around Aimlessly Shooting the Gun in All Manner Of Directions Without Any Sense of Where Staff Are Standing Around is Appalling and Incredibly Concerning. I have seen footage of him from the trial of Guiterrez Reed where he is dropping to the ground - getting up - spontaneously shooting everywhere with staff all around the immediate area - - and he's impatient - - shouting - - get me the other gun - - I want to go again ! Hollering Like a 4 year old. He should be both ASHAMED and EMBARRASSED By His Behavior as a Producer / Actor. He is an Entitled Narcissistic Man with a Short Fuse. And his lack of responsibility and pushy me me me now now now - - cost a beautiful soul to be lost to this world. I hope he gets prison time for his part in the way he handled that gun and for all the lies he told and continues to tell about the event afterward.
ITS A MOVIE!!!! 😂
The right loves for Mr Baldwin to be guilty, after all, he did portray the orange tub of lying lard so exceptionally 😂😂😂😂
@@sd560 It has NOTHING to do with the right. 🤦♀️ For one, let's start by saying that Baldwin never contacted Halyna Hutchins family. Now, let's get to the bottom. Bladwin has been on movie sets for a very long time. Common sense hasn't been his thing, so some people (one being you) have no understanding of gun safety 101, so let me explain. 1. Check the gun before you fire it. 2. Always treat a firearm as if it were loaded with a live round. 3. Once that gun touches your hand, you are responsible for it. 4. If you are irresponsible and assume the gun is safe without checking first, fire, then kill someone. 🤔
👉 Because of your negligence, a life is lost. You can and should be charged with involuntary manslaughter. 5. NEVER rely on others when it comes to gun safety.
BIG NUMBER ONE RULE IS TO - COVER YOUR REAR - PERIOD!! It doesn't matter who you're - letting your EGO get in the way is what causes harm to others.
Having a 'big' or 'inflated' ego can have a detrimental impact on our decision-making and cause people to become arrogant, boastful, and entitled.
with a supposedly cold gun
SPOT ON EVERYONE..........GUILTY, GO TO JAIL, GO STRAIGHT TO JAIL. HE'S ARROGANT, EGOTISTICAL AND A NARCISSISTIC BULLY
In court today it was discovered that another actor had one live round in his gun belt.
As a former Paramedic that dealt with countless gunshot victims, I believe that the Set Medic dropped the ball big time. As she testified in Hannah's trial that she NEVER treated a gunshot victim in her career. Her lack of experience led to Halayna's death. As instead of waiting for an Ambulance and then a Helicopter, she should have immediately thrown Halayna in a Van and drove as fast to the nearest hospital as possible. As with serious gunshot wounds, only a Surgeon is going to save their life as they got to open her up and stop the bleeding. In the world of Paramedics, it's called "load and go." As getting a serious gunshot victim to the hospital ASAP is the only thing that gives the victim a chance to survive. And the fact that the Set Medic never dealt with a Gunshot victim in her career is shocking and I feel that her lack of experience in understanding how to treat serious gunshot victims is what ultimately led to Halayna's death! Tragedies like this is why it's important to hire the most experienced and qualified person for the job, instead of the person who checks all of the political correctness boxes!
I never heard anything about chest wound sealing either. The passive O2 was also and indicator of incompetence.
Why would a gun be loaded for a blocking session for a closeup shot? The gun chambers should have been completely empty, no? That set was completely unprofessional and haphazard. Baldwin was a producer and was deferred to by others on the set. He bears responsibility for what happened on multiple levels.
I understand Hannah had three jobs, not just the job she was hired for, I understand there was a lot of pressure on the set and Hannah wasn't even allowed in the church, should have been allowed in . I doubt any one could tell Alec what to do, not a young girl. Part of the crew left because of safety reasons.
It appears Alec Baldwin has exhibited egocentric behavior, & this unfortunate 'accident' could be a result of his past actions over the years.
Believe she got railroaded big x
Do they have any VIDEO EVIDENCE OF HANNAH PUTTING AMMO IN. SO ALL WITNESSES SAID SAW HER BUT DIDNT DO ANYTHING ABT HER LIKE GO UP 2 HER ASK HER SUGGEST 2 HER BC A LIFE COULD B SAVED SO ALL WITNESSES THAT SAID THEY SAW HER BUT DIDNT FO ANYTHING AVT IT ITS ON THEM 2
ahh... double standards. If she was not allow to follow the safety protocols she was responsible for.. she should have quit. Alec Baldwin did not show any demeanor of telling the crew what to do or the director even... he was giving suggestions... not even ordering the suggestions.
He had been nasty to her just 45 minutes earlier, because she defended walk outs: this needs to be addressed, he is getting a major pass already as involuntary manslaughter. And he hired the nutty teenager on the cheap who wound up in jail.
On his first interview Baldwin said to the police that this was a relatively low budget movie.
Interesting.
meaning it wasn't a blockbuster. Relative for him could still be millions of dollars. I am sure it wasn't a mikey mouse thousand dollar budget movie.
It was a cheapskate production, but he may have given himself a big salary - bedding crews in Albuquerque after long days was unconscionable.
A lot of movies are low budget movies.
@@flyfly2850 Really, Safety first. What is it costing him now? A human life and his daughter could have been on the set that day.
I'm not convinced Alec would have recognized a live round even if he'd checked the gun.
Exactly
Agreed
I agree, it's not his job. That's why they hire an armorer. Why wasn't she there?
There should have been NOTHING in the gun. It was a lightning/camera rehearsal, not an action rehearsal. Shouldn't have had any bullets of any kind.
@@vivavictoria2010He hired a low-budget armorer who was also responsible for props. She had two main duties.
💯Baldwin's finger is on the trigger every time...
We know that but it doesn't mean there was a real bullet in it.
I mean he didn't know a real bullet in it.
as it should be. Would you believe at that close up you would believe the actor actually shot at the bad guys with his finger anywhere other than the trigger?
@jeanhanner9407 no, but he lied when he said his finger was never on the trigger👌
Who brings a baby to a court?
Someone who wants to make a good impression on the jury.
A parent.
Sympathy to jury!!!..obvious!..they can afford a babysitter, come on now!!..same as movie roles, all acting...
People with no common sense. Us regular people would be removed from the courtroom.
If it’s a rehearsal why is there any ammunition at all in the firearm? Blanks, dummy or otherwise. It should be an empty gun.
Blocking rehearsal He did not even need to have a gun-just stage direction
@@Friendofstfrank I disagree. If it’s a rehearsal on camera as it can sometimes be, then it should be in every way as close to shooting conditions as possible, there’s hair & make-up, wardrobe, props to consider, however NO ammo was needed in the gun in this instance, it’s completely superfluous at this point.
Sometimes, although not in this instance, a rehearsal is 'shot' that is to say “let’s shoot the rehearsal".
Not ideal but that’s what happens under (often unnecessary) pressure, when there’s a constant desire to push things forward, make up time, keep energy up, whatever the reasons!
Baldwin walking out of courtroom shows what a loose cannon he is ! His impulsivity has always been a problem. He himself said a live or dummy amp can hurt a person! He pointed /injured, killed.
yea that dude is insufferable!
The armor lady is the only one at fault....end of story
Jurors were not in room darn
@@ElieGroff💯🎯
Why did he have a live bullet in his holster?!
The armorer loaded it in the gun.
@@Emily89420 I'm talking about the holster, not the gun... He apparently had another live bullet on his holster where he was carrying the gun...
Yep! Who had keys 2 trailer that held ammo n guns
Who had keys 2 trailer that had ammo n guns in it. ALEC
@@Emily89420do u have video of her
Alec said. When we’re rehearsing I’m supposed to get a empty gun not a hot/loaded gun. Asked if he was alright he replied “No I’m not alright. I’m worried about her”. He didn’t do anything wrong he was told by the individual who sole job was to ensure the gun was cold/safe with ONLY blanks or dummies in it. He clearly said he didn’t know that the gun was loaded and not empty while he is rehearsing. HOW DID THE LIVE/REAL BULLET GET INTO HIS GUN. WHY WHO PUT IT IN THERE???? Why in the hell is there any live ammunition on a film set????? Why. I think they are so desperate to find a fall guy and they are trying to make Alec that guy. I strongly believe he didn’t do anything wrong and the FBI messed up never did the drop test; the scene wasn’t properly secured in the beginning. I want to know what Alec did with the gun immediately after he noticed that the two people were shot Who handled the gun right after the accidental shooting??? The police should have responded first to secure the scene find that gun and properly secure it then EMS proceed. Always safety first. Evidence most likely was tampered with. Nobody except for police; detectives and medical staff should have been allowed in and around the crime scene. The two individuals who are armorer or whatever they call them who are responsible for making sure the gun is safe with only blanks or dummies in it should be prosecuted and held accountable. I know the girl is in jail and David Halls I think is pleading a deal and they need to find out where the live bullets came from and hold that person accountable
Seth Kenny but he won't be held responsible. Right after shooting, he called his girlfriend Sarah Zachery on set and had her destroy all the ammo. They both have been given immunity from any prosecution.
Why were there bullets in the gun in the first place? If it was just a rehearsal, why bullets in the gun? Why not use rubber guns?
right... and who was the one making that decision or making sure that safety was followed? It's not the actor... It would be the Assistant Director and the Armorer.
@@jeanhanner9407 and who hired the teen on the cheap?
She’d be alive now if the narcissist had run a safe worksite.
or a banana, as some directors say
@@jeanhanner9407 Alec was the top dog on the scene. He did what he wanted, basically. Don't forget this.
The ultimate elitist privilege to simply walk out of court mid proceedings and not even get questionned let alone penalised!
He went and got a coffee.
@@rachb373 he has the right to walk out any time he pleases. He is a free man, and if he didn’t want to be there he could stay home and the trial would go on. Until a jury of his peers convicts him, he is an innocent man
@@rachb373 ouch, what a judgment to make. This says more about your perception of this than him.
I FEEL BAD FOR AB IM SAD FOR HIM I DONT THINK HE KNOWS HOW THIS HAPPEN MY THEORY WAS SOMEONE DOES'NT LIKE HIM
@@georgia4407 He may have come back with coffee but was pissed off when he left, you could see he was mad that they called him a liar.
There were complaints about the armourer on other projects - she kept the armory supplies in disarray - didn't check the guns in & out & was letting people take them off for target practise - allegedly people said, she was more interested in hanging out partying with "stars" than doing her job professionally.
She’s an unkempt lip-smack’n lazy slob who got this career due to her father’s legendary status. The whiners on this thread are all butt-hurt Trump supporters who don’t like their orange Jesus being mocked. This is how silly having this trial actually is. Next!
His finger was on the trigger. He pulled the trigger.
That's exactly what happened... It was only 2.5# trigger...hair trigger territory.
His lack of trigger finger control caused the hammer to drop. He didn't even know his finger moved ever so slightly.
He was playing an outlaw about to shoot his way out. It would look pretty stupid in a movie a gun firing without anyone pulling the trigger.
But Baldwin should have visually checked it with the armourer when it was given to him and confirmed if blanks or dummy rounds were to be used and confirm that was what was in the gun!
@@mirandahotspring4019 The hammer should have never been pulled all the way back to a firing position. Why didn't he recognize that? This was not even being filmed, it was a rehearsal before lunch time.
@@k9policexj Not important. He should have been able to do whatever he wanted to do if the armourer had done their job properly! The armourer is already doing time. The most Baldwin has, is the responsibility to have properly checked the gun when it was handed to him, with the armourer or her assistant.
@@mirandahotspring4019 Oh, it actually is really important! That's what caused the revolver to fire...a hammer in the full cocked position with a hair trigger turned it into a time bomb... had it not been cocked and loaded improperly we wouldn't be having this conversation, a man wouldn't have been wounded, a woman would still be alive, and Baldwin wouldn't be on trial for killing anyone.
He seems to have no empathy at ALL! And while he’s sitting there in court acting like an entitled ass !
You receive a firearm you take responsibility of that firearm
100% I've heard many actors with experience handling firearms say they would never not check themselves, even after the armourer handed the gun to them. What happened on set is exactly why they do that.
So if a person gives a child a gun and the gun accidentally goes off, it's the fault of the kid and not the person who gave them the gun?
The whole point of having an armorer is that you don't confuse the circumstances by placing the responsibilities on multiple people. Mistakes are likely to happen if multiple minds have to keep track of eachother's actions.
If one person is solely concentrated on knowing everything about the guns before anyone else touches them, that means that nothing is ambiguous. Provided that person does their job. She didn't.
If we had a system where inexperienced actors are relied on for safety of items outside their profession, more mistakes will happen.
You are focusing on his actions as an actor. His actions as an overall decision making as a producer are what is in question.
Also a producer is a loose term. Some decide to have a lot of control about the set and conditions, Baldwin likely just financed the film. If he was using his power to override the safety decisions of the crew, he could be considered culpable. I think that is what the prosecution is trying to prove. No one serious is going to argue that holding a gun that has been safety checked by a professional designed to protect you and it not operating the way you were told by that professional that it would is the fault of the person handed the gun.
@@aidancoutts2341 WRONG! It is illegal for minors to have control of a weapon without adult supervision, and then it's entirely upon the adult to control the situation and all legal liabilities lie upon the adult for any bad outcomes. Your analogy is ridiculous and shows low intelligence. In fact, hundreds -- if not thousands -- of adults have been charged for shootings related to minors getting ahold of their guns!
@@aidancoutts2341 Nope! It's called the CAP Law. Look it up!!
@@aidancoutts2341 This. And there should be NO live ammo anywhere NEAR that set. You should be able to do filming with handling of weapons that is not real life. And you should be able to trust other people to do their job. This was bad safety by someone but the biggest blame is not on Baldwin.
he tried to blame her, he lied, and he should go to jail
@@rjkersey68 no
For what+
Does the defense attorney think workplace accidents should be exempt from prosecution? Wow
NO THAT IS NOT WHAT HE IS SAYING. GO AFTER THE PEOPLE THAT SHOULD BE PROSECUTED! He Is An Actor for god Sake! Come On Man use your Noggin
@@Nefertiti0403 What are u going to say if Baldwin, the actor, is convicted?
Yes.
@@Nefertiti0403- he doesn't have "Noggin" lol FR
@@Nefertiti0403
Oh that's right! Actors are incapable of checking their guns...lol
I wonder if the scene was to commit suicide, would he have check the gun that was just given to him...
I think the jurors will place more value on his courtroom behavior than how he conducted himself the day of the shooting.
I agree
And he's conducting himself like an arrogant, entitled jerk, as he did as executive producer.
The jurors.. (I hope) should place more value on the facts.
@@jeanhanner9407 Really? Whatever gets him convicted is fine with me, but jurors pay very close attention to facial and body movements. And this guy cannot control his behavior. That means a whole lot.
@@jeanhanner9407The way he conducts himself will have a MASSIVE impact on the jurors.
However, it's on Alec of he is clueless to how he is being viewed.
Narcissism is a dangerous drug.
if the weapon is safe, has been checked has it should have been, there should of been no problem with the gun
WHY is AB talking without a lawyer? This will come back to bite him. He obviously hasn’t listened to Bruce Rivers 😢
I don't care who you are. .......NEVER TALK TO LAW ENFORCEMENT WITHOUT A LAWYER.....NEVER!!
They talk about Baldwin only being the actor, however, he was the producer of the movie, so he should have been overseeing everything, he does have safety responsibility.
Why does it matter how he acted! All he knows is that the gun was a fake, like a Nerf gun the DA wants to be famous while using tax payer money
He knew it was a real gun He asked specifically for it.
Because I’m too lazy to watch, in exact terms, someone explain how an actor handed a gun that isn’t supposed to be real get in trouble if it is? Look how many movies he’s done. Isn’t it the prop guys fault?
Real or fake you are not suppose to keep your finger on the trigger until ready to shoot. He constantly has his finger on the trigger. It DOES NOT MATTER if it's a prop gun or not, the safety protocols are exactly the same as handling a real gun. He didn't follow any safety rules, and his arrogance cost someone their life.
@@tomekinc No, he was in some degree in error, and should have thoroughly checked the gun with the armourer when it was handed to him.
But playing an outlaw about to try and shoot is way out, this isn't about fingers on the trigger. He was expected to fire the gun. It was not expected to have a live round in it!
@@mirandahotspring4019 Again, you DO NOT keep your finger on the trigger unless you're ready to shoot. This is 1 of the 4 core gun safety rules taught everywhere including on that set. It does not matter if it's a prop gun, it's still a gun and it's treated as real, and you also follow the gun safety rules too. He was trained and instructed how to properly hold the gun, and when to put his finger on the trigger. He was reckless, unsafe, and it cost a life. It appears that most people who are unfamiliar with guns and THE most basic of gun safety rules, literally the first thing they teach and CONSTANTLY repeat the same thing. Finger OFF the trigger.
Also, watching all those videos, other set armors, firearms trainers etc, all agree his booger hook was on that trigger when it should not have been. But, he was also the guy in charge, and the toxic set forced corner cutting, cost cutting and a bunch of other safety issues that caused this. He's guilty both ways as the Producer and as the actual killer.
@@tomekinc Show me one western where the actor does not cock and fire their revolver, almost always pointed as someone! It has to look realistic. It should never have been loaded with live ammo.
That's why the armourer is already in jail, she was found responsible and convicted. This is just to see Baldwin's responsibility. There should never have been live ammo on set!
He pulled the trigger that’s how ! A safe gun owner would have confirmed the ammo was not live !
Ah I quit... you people have no sense of anything. A PROP!! IT WAS A PROP! not a 'gun'... fml. I want off this planet!
Does he have a certificate confirming he has passed and attended gun safety training on set.
Probably not
Baldwin has (as does any actor) a responsibility to know at least basic gun safety-he should be able to check and identify a live round. I'm a nurse-if the doctor gives me an incorrect order and I carry it out, I am as responsible as the doctor.
True, but the armourer has a lot to answer for as well. How the hell did a live round get in the gun? Why wasn't it properly checked before it was handed to the actor?
I'm not doubting his emotions. His actions after and really during the sets is what shocked me.
The second practice draw, right before someone said "nice" you can see the hammer was pulled back and when Baldwin drew the pistol he clearly pulled the trigger and the hammer fell on what was either an empty chamber or a dummy round. Baldwin was practicing the same way the accident occured.
I've been on a set, the movie industry is run by near poor writers and directors who acquire loans. Any actor that is seen as 'money' are not treated as Royalty, rather they are treated as servants, who are only on set to say their lines and not question the operations or the people.
Alex looks emotional in court, this must have torn him up inside. No matter how he is portrayed in the media and his angry outbursts, this tragedy is not something you expect to happen in your life.
Laura is like the prosecutors, over-reaching!!!! Trying to prosecute someone who is not legally-responsible!😂😂😂
I do not like Alec Baldwin. Having said this no one has ever explained how a real bullet got in the gun. Not a number of real bullets just (1). If someone had been using live rounds in the weapon why only one. Shortly before this incident a number of staff had quit or been dismissed from the movie crew because of some issue. I tend to wonder if one of the quit/fired employees decided to leave a little surprise behind before leaving. Maybe not with the intention of getting anyone hurt just as a 'protest' as they would call it. When that poor lady was killed they would certainly never admit it. Mr. Baldwin's personality would invite this type of 'job action'.
When I first heard this had happened and who it had happened to this was the first thing that occured to me.
RUSSIAN ROULETTE
Correct. The script also called for the prop gun to be in the fully cocked position. It was well known this was a hair-triggered prop when formatted to fire. “Dummy rounds” are inert. They are not blanks. Dummy rounds are used for close/up camera shots, to add realism. “Blanks” are used to produce smoke.
Baldwin is doing himself no favours with his facial expressions
He may pray for the judge not be a feeling type. His expressions are always disagreeable. Certain people take as personal even if it’s not.
Sante Fe is a liberal hotbed. 😵💫
THAT SAID IT ALL
This case is about the killing of someone, not how did a live round get onto the set. That question is for another time. This case is about who is responsible for the death of H. Hutchins! The truth and the fact is that AB used a gun not necessary for the blocking of the scene and yet he used a gun without using standard protocol and PULLED THE TRIGGER. Accident, yes, guilty, ABSOLUTELY!! There was negligence all around that production due to AB’s loose and reckless attitude. AB is the poster boy for arrogant elitism and entitlement. The only true justice is a guilty verdict!!
Vinnie it happened bc the system on set was like Boeing! But Alex was cleared as holding a safe to shoot gun!
this tril should have never even been accepted. Real gun or not, it doesent matter. How Baldwin handled the gun or pulled a trigger or not, it doesent matter. Its been a film location and the gun was a prop, a cold gun. For this matter there is an expert employed who guarantees all this. That there is no live ammo on the whole folm set, that the guns are props and nothing else and checked and cross checked and when given to actors they are like a piece of stone, metal, cheese, whatever. no handling like with a real weapon necessary at all... can do what you want with this prop. and the propmaster got already punished by court for her failure.
Baldwin has got no responsibility at all since he was told its a cold gun which meant only dummies that looked loke cartridges inside so he could simply do what he wanted with the gun without harming anybody.
this man is completely innocent and its a shame that he has to defend himself.
Why didnt the Armour have a blood test immidiately?
Can't believe they got Yoda to break this down
Despite the fact that AB seems to be a pretty nasty guy, i believe the armourer is responsible. Such an unnecessary tragedy.
This is such a sad story😮. It was an accident on Alec’s part. Why was live bullets in the chamber. That should be the question! That is the reason for this tragedy.
The gun did not discharge as he was pulling it from his holster. The blocking of that shot required him to slowly draw the gun from its holster and stop with the gun at an angle across his mid-section. What he did was fast-draw the gun from the holster, point it directly at Hutchins, cocked the gun and pulled the trigger.
When I am in active physical possession of a weapon I accept full responsibility for any damage that weapon may cause. I would never accept the word of another person that the weapon was void of a live round before I aimed it at anyone or anything no matter what that’s persons job or position was.
I feel in this case the responsibility must be shared to some degree.
He draws the gun with his finger on the trigger ‼️😱
No, its not. I was an armorer for films and Baldwin was a powerful producer and the 23 yo armorer was inexperienced. Huge power imbalance and he acted like an idiot with the gun.
The armorer was at fault. Period. This was a tragic accident, where the safety protocol was not followed by the armorer, prior to handing the Prop-gun to Alec Baldwin. He is rehearsing a scene with a gun, he is supposed to pull, aim and shoot. His job as producer was not actively in play at the time. His job as actor was. That's what he was concentrating on. The armorer was hired to do a specific job, involving gun safety, for which she was found negligent, by a jury of her peers. She was responsible for handing a loaded gun to Alec Baldwin, for which he was told was safe to handle. And how would he know the difference between the blanks and loaded bullets?
I agree with you 💯💯💯💯💯
Generally agree, but Baldwin should have checked and confirmed with the armourer what, if anything, was in the gun. Blanks need special precautions, they are are dangerous to anyone close by and directly in the line of sight. Dummy rounds can be difficult for a non expert to identify, but all that should be explained to any actor working with firearms.
I disagree, the Buck Stops with Alec he was the one pulling the trigger. Not the armorer
if it was a firing scene she would of been there, just like she said
Pay peanuts you get monkeys
Unless Alec put the bullet in the gun to intentionally shoot those two it is absolutely ridiculous to charge him with anything. This case is stupid.
The defense needs to have this guy as a witness!
The quickest answer to your question Vinnie is would Alec Baldwin have personally checked his gun to make sure it did not contain a live round if the scene called for him to point it at one of his children’s head and pull the trigger? The answer we all know is YES Alec would have made sure to personally check the gun and he would not have accepted the word of Dave Halls that it was a cold gun. Alec killed Halyna and he is criminally responsible for that death regardless of his state of mind at the time of the offense.
I could tell the difference between live round or blank round myself unless I shoot them. And if a western gunfight movie like that enforces to check each time and each rehearsal, the budget would be tripled. In a lot team play, your life or other teammates' lives on other people's stake, because you trust them. In the same way, why air shuttle Challenger and Columbia blasted, if the flying crew have personally checked the air shuttle? Why the Boeing starliner had launched, shouldn't the two astronauts personally checked the rocket themselves? In modern industry, this is how complicated projects get done. You stake your life on the professionalism of your team, and it the trust that carries things along.
@@TruthofMegaDeath Go tell that garbage insane logic to Halyna’s kid. THE UNIVERSAL RULES OF GUN SAFETY ARE: ALWAYS TAKE 10 SECONDS TO CHECK THE GUN BEFORE POINTING IT AT SOMEONE. NEVER POINT A GUN AT SOMEONE YOU DO NOT INTEND TO KILL. IF YOU ARE ON A MOVIE SET POINT THE GUN AT THE CAMERA ONLY WHEN THE CAMERA OPERATOR AND AD ARE OFF CENTER OF YOUR LINE OF FIRE. IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THESE SIMPLE FREE OF COST RULES THEN YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS USING GUNS.
Give a break BALDWIN'S ex attorney... bs 😅😅😅😅😅😅... Moreover WATCH THE VIDEOS, BALDWIN WAS PARTICIPATING AS PRODUCER, HE WAS BARKING OUT, ".. MOVE IT , QUICKLY, COME ON COMEVON!"
This case has a Karen Read flavor of conspiracy...
Alec... I wish you could simply delete this nightmare...
I believe full heartedly that you are innocent.
Who planted those bullets.....sounds like someone set you up....
I agree, but the one responsible has already been convicted and in prison! The pain he will live with forever is heart breaking
@10:20 it wasn't a "rehearsal" it was a blocking shot. You set everything up to see how it looks in camera for the close up. When everything is set up THEN you do the rehearsal to make sure everything is stl in frame and everything is where it's supposed to be...THEN you shoot the scene.
I keep saying that but people ignore it.
You’re talking semantics for no reason on this point! Whether it’s a blocking or a rehearsal there’s still no logical reason for ammo of any type needed to be in the gun.
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There is no logical reason to have a gun that takes any ammo for a blocking shot. Makes no logical reason to pull the trigger when there was no call to do so. Makes no logical sense to point a real gun at anyone.
I do love how the defense is trying to spin this as a "rehearsal", that Alec was supposed to draw the gun, point the gun, was supposed to fire the gun thinking it was blanks.
The ENTIRE cylinder could have held live rounds and NOTHING would have happened. It took Alec to pull the trigger, something he was NOT supposed to do to kill a mother. That is what will convict him.
@@GeistView so we’re in agreement then, up until the conviction part! I suspect that won’t be the case.
Finger on the trigger, gun pointed at people - his demeanour after the shooting does not absolve him.
I don't care what tradition is on the movie set regarding real firearms - the fact is he pulled the trigger that caused Helyna's death. If you're saying Baldwin isn't to blame because actors have no responsibility for safety, then the industry needs to change YESTERDAY, especially when all this could be done with CGI and not real firearms. No regular person could get away with this, and he should not either. And the fact that he's a producer on this movie NOT being allowed into evidence is WRONG too.
Reminds me of the death of Brandon Lee.....why any live rounds on any set?!!😢
I watched the "trial" of this spoiled, arrogant child. It's easy for me to think justice was denied.
Something like this was NEVER supposed to happen especially in light of the death of Bruce Lee's son Brandon on the set of "The Crow".
They should never have the firing pins in any pistol during a movie shoot.
I had tears in my eyes when Alec heard that the woman is dead 😢 He was very shocked and became very small. 😢
HE'S WORRIED ABOUT HIMSELF, NO ONE ELSE. ITS ALL A SHOW. NOBODY SPEAKS OVER HIM, THEY SPEAK UP TO HIM. HE'S THE BOSS. ITS ALL FOR THE CAMERA, YES HE'S ACTING. THATS WHAT HE IS, AN ACTOR, RIGHT !!!!!
YES YES YES
Excellent podcast!! Very interesting comments!!
Armor girl didn’t like her.
Low budget movie....in every sense.
Hey VP 🙋🏻♀️ MINNESOTA in the HOUSE!! 💜 When it first happened, there were reports coming out that there had been target shooting going on at the end of each day. It’s obvious that’s how a Live one got in that gun. I want to know why this hasn’t been brought up since? Who’s paying who to keep that hush hush???
Vinnie,, too coincidental,, Helina was just getting ready to release a doc. About kid trafficking!
IM NOT SURPRISE THINGS SMELL VER Y BAD THEY ARE ALL IMPLICATED WAITING FOR THE TRUTH TO COME OUT IT WILL BE HORRIFIC
This definitely showed a different side of Alex Baldwin. Have something like this happen to you will bring you back to reality.
WTF, would everyone stop saying..."His finger was on the trigger" The man was playing an outlaw in a movie, in a rehearsal, where he was supposed to draw his gun and shoot at the men who were coming to arrest him. He was told by Haylana and Joel the director to do just that...draw his gun, "whip it out." He is playing a part in the movie where the character is supposed to look real... the scene is supposed to look REAL. Of course he's going to have his finger on the trigger. Of course he's going to be pointing the gun in the direction of the camera. He's being INSTRUCTED TO DO SO!!! The unimaginable thing, was that someone brougjht live rounds on a movie set. That's the culprit. NO ONE else is guilty of manslaughter except whomever brought those rounds. And in my opinion...and it's always been my opinion, that person is/was Seth Kenny and Sarah Zachary!!!
Why was such a young in experienced girl hired as the armerour? Because she was cheap???. Baldwin should have checked the gun with such a young girl doing the job, he should not have rushed her doing her job and listened when she did the safety talk. He seems very arrogant standing over people.
This movie shoukd be banned after what happened!!
Baldwin was a producer in name only; he was credited as being one of the producers because of his financial backing of the movie. There were several other producers who actually were producers on set. Say what they will but it is not an actor's job to check to see if a gun is 'cold' after 2 people declared it was. Were it not for the armorer loading the gun with a live round and both she and the AD yelling: "Cold Gun" this tragedy wouldn't have happened. A lot of actors do not check their guns while rehearsing a scene. Also, there should have been a shield in place to protect the photographer & the AD in the event of a misfire and/or other incident involving a gun; there wasn't. Lack of safety measures by those responsible killed the photographer; it was an accident waiting to happen. Other weapons also contained live bullets, not just this one.
He was in charge not just an actor .... didn't the crew walk out in protest at the lack of safety of live bullets ? The day before the murder of that poor woman ! He should have acted immediately surely pure negligence the buck stops at the arrogant that was more concerned with saving his skin than upset 👹 Guilty
TBH I don’t even like it when a toy gun is pointed at me - even if I know it’s just a child’s cap gun, don’t point it at me. It makes me uncomfortable, even though my intellect knows it’s a toy.
What about when the officer asked him to go and sit in either a police car ( And even offered to let Baldwin sit in his personal vehicle )
His response was " I can't smoke in the car "
Why are you leaving that body cam footage out ?
Show it as well for posterity ?
( Because I find it questionable that CourtTV chose not to show or comment on that bit of body cam footage )
And were is that footage
I think his attitude in court will hurt him. If I was a juror and saw him walk out, that would effect my opinion of him. It's human nature to view people at length but his demeanor is not appropriate especially since the jury is getting a feel for him.
If the hammer wasn't pulled back, the revolver would have never fired...
Accident or not Alec had his finger on the trigger. With a light trigger pull (2.5# per the FBI) this is getting into hair trigger territory...a very slight movement/pressure on the trigger would cause the hammer to drop.
My guess is that poor trigger finger control caused the revolver to fire. He should have never had the hammer back. His finger should have never left the frame of the gun.
No live bullets ever ever Baldwin is very upset Accidents but no live bullets
OMGosh. IMO, Jeffery is absolutely right on.
Alec baldwin was trying to save money and time so he cut corners period , Ten years for this is called for the woman had three children now they have no mother..
too many ad interruptions to watch this channel another moment NOT WORTH WATCHING
On the ranch we call what harlyn rust did in that church was PLAYIN POSSUM ( not george jones )
this could go 50/50 tbh either way
The defense attorney is being an idiot in regards to Baldwin's arrival. He brought the baby to the parking lot for a few minutes just to stress the fact that he was a family man.
It's this attitude that got him in this mess
He's the boss. It stops with him. It's how it works
grey areas, could not bet on a conviction
I dont know why I'm getting mad I think its cause I'm an AB fan. But to me if he thought the gun wasn't loaded because the Armor and the assistant Director said it was a safe gun and why did the aromor have real bullets on set? How is he on trial? If he would have never said he didn't pull the trigger I Dont think he'd be on trial.
Learned new info: cop said the 1873 Pietta Peace Keeper had all blanks and a fired round. So he was handed a fully loaded gun with 5 blanks and 1 live round. Also press reported when the cop placed the gun in his car… it was fully empty. Shame they did not do DNA or finger print analysis on those 5 bullets or rounds. Often you leave fingerprints when you load a gun…. On the rounds.
Im not impressed with these guests who appear to be on Baldwin's side.
Court TV is biased. These guests are ignorant. Its like putting someone with no match background to talk about how 1x1= 2 . Its teaching the public WRONG. A sham and a crime. Shame on court TV propaganda. Look at the State Laws + SAG rules and its clear the actor has a huge responsibility yet these clown guest obviously never read them. The only qualification you need to be on court TV is a bias on one side or another.
You're just jealous aren't you?😊
WHAT YOU DO SEE on camera is Alec Baldwin s finger on the trigger while rehearsal
Did Alec participate in the gun safety training? The answer to that will tell the story.