"If magic exists, it's part of the natural world. Science just doesn't understand it yet. It has rules and laws we don't understand yet." That's honestly a wonderful way to describe it.
but wait.. why.. is a villain of Wonder Woman, based off of Greek mythology, named Minerva..? a Roman deity, who should be named Athena, if its her Greek counterpart? just to pick the less common name haha? i guess since shes a villain they didnt want to use the commonly heroic name Athena
I met kary Payton a few times. His kids, his wife, and himself pet my dog on our walks around Burbank. Extremely friendly guy and that’s legitimately how his voice sounds in real life. It’s crazy to think about how much voice work he has done and I’m just now finding it out now
I think in the comics they DO flesh out the idea that Wonder Woman at least had a different upbringing with the pilot guy being a secret Nazi spy and her world view ending up way darker, leading to her basically pushing Superman to be more ruthless and egocentric and along with the Injustice timeline just generally being darker and nastier, led this Superman to be a much less nice guy then cannon Superman. Like theirs a bit right after he kills Joker where Green Arrow almost gets him to back down, but then one of his arrows bounces off SM and non lethally hurts Pa Kent, which sends SM into a rage and he kills Arrow, more or less cementing his fall from grace and making it really easy for Wonder Woman to push him into the increasingly dark path he takes.
Poison Ivy's face resembles Tasia Valenza, the voice actress that plays her in the Arkham and Injustice games. She also plays the voice of the Shenzhou Computer in Rich's all-time favorite show, Star Trek Discovery.
Flash: "So who did you place to protect Superman in case he breaks out? Perhaps Deathstroke? He is not too powerful but he is resourceful and skilled, I am sure he can best Superman under the Red Sun battery! No, wait, Zatanna, who can just wear a magical trinket and make Superman break his fists trying to punch her as the brute imbecile that he is! Don't tell me, you've managed to reprogram Doomsday after extracting it from the Phantom Zone? That would be brilliant! No way, you got one of the Olympians because now Superman is deposed and whatever bullshit happened on Year Four is now void!?" Batman: "Firestorm and Blue Beetle are the best at guarding Superman..." Green Lantern: "This guy is our strategist?"
Yes, Kryptonite, totally worth ignoring Braniac's participation completely for. I'm sure he'll do well against them both with his Kryptonite hands... It's not like Superman fistfights Kryptonite Man every other day with no shits given or anything.
well, deathstroke basiclly fucked off after injustice 1 and no one knows where he is, the olympians basiclly cant interact with the mortal world without causing a giant ass war with the new gods, and zatanna idk. think she fucked off to the magic tower. the fact is before GL and Flash joined up again Blue Beetle and Firestorm were Batman's strongest allies from a power perspective. Theyre just young meaning they havent fully realised what their strengths are. Though Blue Beetle did soooorta 1v1 a Red Lantern Starro.
How is Deathstroke fucking off a problem for Batman, the World's Greatest Detective? The reason why Olympians could not kick Superman's ass was because the New Gods decided that they couldn't solve this problem and that deposing Superman was not their business or that of the New Gods. There's no reason for them to not kick Superman's and WW's ass now that they've been deposed, given how much Zeus hates their shit. I understand why nobody in DC uses Zatanna, when Zatanna is involved problems usually solve themselves so people have to impose stupid plot devices as to why she can't get involved. Year Three is probably the worst Injustice comic "year" because of how assinine the decision to make it Batman and Constantine do magic things Year while Zatanna, one of the most powerful magic users in DC, worked as a glorified teleporter. It's even more assinine when you realize that Constantine WASN'T in the Injustice video game while Zatanna WAS in it as DLC. Promoting random characters that aren't in your game at the expense of DLC characters you wanna promote is REALLY good business! Just because those two were Batman's strongest allies at that moment doesn't mean you just throw them at the board and see what happens. Someone like Batman would have realized that those two are massively out of their league and would have thought outside the box. Any of these characters could have made it in without adding them to the game and just leaving them to get slaughtered in a cutscene or something. I realize that it's a fighting game and you need to use fighting game characters but not at the expense of the plot. If your plot forces smart characters make stupid moves - write it differently and scrap this scene, do not use plot as the excuse, YOU'RE the writer FFS.
Rich disliking Flash's Rogues is kind of hypocritical considering how much he likes Spidey's villains. They're the same, low life crooks with high tech gimmicks. They're humans and pretty simple minded. The Rogues are cool.
Always watching The thing is the Rogues are super strong. Don't underestimate them. Captain Cold's gun can suposedly freeze atoms. So it makes the Flash slower. Mirror Master is basically a god, same for the Weather Wizard and Abra Kadabra. They're pretty powerful, don't under estimate them. I'd say they're more fearful and dangerous than most of Spidey's foe who are all mostly animalistic. And the Shocker, Rhino, Scorpion, Electro, The Vulture or The Cameleon are far from being interesting characters. I'm not saying they're not cool but they're canon fodder for Pete to punch until the real villain shows up.
Peter Stellenberg irrelevant. The rogues May be the same, the hero isn’t. That’s the problem. Spider-Man can’t move at the speed of light and go back in time. You’re missing the point.
The problem with Flash's power is relativity - by which I mean he's only fast to others, it's real time to him. If he builds a house in a few seconds, he still has to build an entire house in real time from his POV. Blue Beetle is more like Iron Spider, but since Spidey and BB were both largely Steve Ditko (R.I.P.) creations similarities abound.
The reason the suits look dumb was to do the whole Armor Powerup mechanics, or something, the trailer was trying to hype that up. You fight and you get armor pieces that look weird and you kinda customize the looks that way, but it had to look "armory" so that's how we get with Superman's jaw helmet. It's kinda like this game's version of superhero toys like the Spiderman buggy or Hulk with Mecha Arms or stuff. (Also because they want to beat into your head that this is Evil Universe Costumes)
Will, in DC comics, is a substitute word for courage I guess. Like, whenever you see Green Lanterns get all powerful and shit, its because they're feeling courageous and fight back. It's about the power of belief. Yeah I believe in myself! Yeah I believe I'm stronger than this! Is it an emotion? Eh. Not really. But is it emotional? Kinda.
the best takeaway is how spot on they are about fucking fanfics hahah like..if youre already writing a story, why poach existing characters and rip off other people..? youre already creative and motivated enough to write, its just so dumb, especially since so many are just self-insert fantasy crap
Only true SIMPs buy into "cultural appropriation" as morally/ethically improper. Cultures mingle and meld, always have always will, there's nothing wrong with it. Think of Italian traditional cuisine. What did you think of? Pasta and spaghetti sauce maybe? Well, if Italy bought into the modern idea of "cultural appropriation" then "traditional Italian cuisine" wouldn't exist. Pasta is a Chinese invention and staple and tomatoes came from the new world. Cultural Appropriation =/= Cultural Exploitation also Cultural tentpoles aren't fixed and shouldn't be.
oh sleeping dogs is fucking great, I actually think the car gameplay is better than GTA by FAR. The ability to hold O (or square, I forget) to drift, or slip in between cars back and forth gives you sooo much control since it doesn't have restrictive over-realism, and to make sharp turns, plus you can ram cars which is awesome, and leap from your car onto other cars to hijack them. plus it has really good combat and unlockable moves, customizable outfits and really cool environmental attacks. great story too, its definitely one of the best games of its type for sure
About the Joker discussion, you're thinking of him as an organized crime boss. Think of him more as a cult leader. Charles Manson had followers and he didn't make any more sense than the Joker.
in regards to what jack said, there is a good amount of games that go into a beat em up in between standard fights, the jojo game, some of the OP games, its janky sometimes though
hahahah I really think Rich didn't get the point that Jack was making about fighting games .. yeah, mortal kombat characters didn't exist before it, but its for fans of fighting games and became its own game series but Jack is saying if youre not familiar with fighting games, youd go for Smash or Injustice with characters youre familiar with to have an appeal to play it and learn how that genre works, then maybe go off to MK and virtua fighter marvel vs Capcom definitely plays a lot better and I just like the playable characters way more, not just marvel but dante haha, I mean having a team of Rocket, Deadpool and Dante is just too fun
Just give people stone rings that are colored based on the therapy they need and every month they need to come in to the office to recharge their energy color ring
15:30 Oh my god, that brawl cinematic between beetle, firestorm and cybogr is the lamest shit ever. And I thought actual fights in this game were lame.
I didn't think the costumes were that bad when I watched the full movie the first time. Now I can't not see it thanks to Jack. And I can't believe we haven't gotten at least a half hearted obligatory 'what's wrong with their faaaaace' yet.
Will is a state of being, but I can see it being used as an emotion (or something similar). Having a spurt of willpower would incite a certain feeling without a doubt.
Why does a fighting videogame have better...everything, than a multi hundred million dollar movie like man of steel? What the fuck is wrong with Hollywood?
He basically did: -The world hates and fears Superman because of an incident in Metropolis -Superman kills -Superman is angry/depressed and disillusioned with humnity -Batman goes on a mission to stop him -They team up to fight a larger threat While not the exact same story BvS had the exact same story beats
Well then Snyder did the light version of that. I can only imagine the even bigger hatred if Superman would have showed his fist trough the Joker and built a pretty much a fascist society with him as dictator. By your comparision it seems Snyder "gets Superman" more than those saying "Snyder does not get Superman" xD I would love to see a Injustice movie/movie series made by whoever. Adult themed comic books and comic book movies are more interesting, especially when they make us see characters we are used to in a different way and develops the characters from being more than american flag waving heroes that drops more one liners than they fight bad guys.
No, it's pretty bad. Designs are meh, levels are are bland, faces are bad because devs can only make masked ninjas, half of animations are recycled and sped up from their older games that aren't about superheroes, attacks of demigod level superheroes are stubby and uninspired, capes move like trash. The only characters that move good are street level chars that are new to this game and have completely new animations.
I think insanely is taking it a bit far. This is the first Netherrealm Studios game I've seen where women's faces actually look like women's faces. Sure looks a hell of a lot better than the first one.
"If magic exists, it's part of the natural world. Science just doesn't understand it yet. It has rules and laws we don't understand yet." That's honestly a wonderful way to describe it.
Like the little "meow" as red lantern cat leaves. I have simple needs.
but wait.. why.. is a villain of Wonder Woman, based off of Greek mythology, named Minerva..? a Roman deity, who should be named Athena, if its her Greek counterpart? just to pick the less common name haha? i guess since shes a villain they didnt want to use the commonly heroic name Athena
I like how the handprint security works on Batman's glove.
“Why’d you keep it?”
“Keep what?”
“This fucking suit”
You know what? Superman's costume looks exactly like The Flaming C, Conan O'Brien's superhero alter ego.
I met kary Payton a few times. His kids, his wife, and himself pet my dog on our walks around Burbank. Extremely friendly guy and that’s legitimately how his voice sounds in real life. It’s crazy to think about how much voice work he has done and I’m just now finding it out now
Stereochronomics?
Rich Evans and Jack just went full on Super Villain.
Frankly I approve.
I think in the comics they DO flesh out the idea that Wonder Woman at least had a different upbringing with the pilot guy being a secret Nazi spy and her world view ending up way darker, leading to her basically pushing Superman to be more ruthless and egocentric and along with the Injustice timeline just generally being darker and nastier, led this Superman to be a much less nice guy then cannon Superman. Like theirs a bit right after he kills Joker where Green Arrow almost gets him to back down, but then one of his arrows bounces off SM and non lethally hurts Pa Kent, which sends SM into a rage and he kills Arrow, more or less cementing his fall from grace and making it really easy for Wonder Woman to push him into the increasingly dark path he takes.
Poison Ivy's face resembles Tasia Valenza, the voice actress that plays her in the Arkham and Injustice games. She also plays the voice of the Shenzhou Computer in Rich's all-time favorite show, Star Trek Discovery.
Flash: "So who did you place to protect Superman in case he breaks out? Perhaps Deathstroke? He is not too powerful but he is resourceful and skilled, I am sure he can best Superman under the Red Sun battery! No, wait, Zatanna, who can just wear a magical trinket and make Superman break his fists trying to punch her as the brute imbecile that he is! Don't tell me, you've managed to reprogram Doomsday after extracting it from the Phantom Zone? That would be brilliant! No way, you got one of the Olympians because now Superman is deposed and whatever bullshit happened on Year Four is now void!?"
Batman: "Firestorm and Blue Beetle are the best at guarding Superman..."
Green Lantern: "This guy is our strategist?"
Well Firestorm can make kryptonite so laugh if you want.
Yes, Kryptonite, totally worth ignoring Braniac's participation completely for. I'm sure he'll do well against them both with his Kryptonite hands... It's not like Superman fistfights Kryptonite Man every other day with no shits given or anything.
well, deathstroke basiclly fucked off after injustice 1 and no one knows where he is, the olympians basiclly cant interact with the mortal world without causing a giant ass war with the new gods, and zatanna idk. think she fucked off to the magic tower.
the fact is before GL and Flash joined up again Blue Beetle and Firestorm were Batman's strongest allies from a power perspective. Theyre just young meaning they havent fully realised what their strengths are. Though Blue Beetle did soooorta 1v1 a Red Lantern Starro.
How is Deathstroke fucking off a problem for Batman, the World's Greatest Detective?
The reason why Olympians could not kick Superman's ass was because the New Gods decided that they couldn't solve this problem and that deposing Superman was not their business or that of the New Gods. There's no reason for them to not kick Superman's and WW's ass now that they've been deposed, given how much Zeus hates their shit.
I understand why nobody in DC uses Zatanna, when Zatanna is involved problems usually solve themselves so people have to impose stupid plot devices as to why she can't get involved. Year Three is probably the worst Injustice comic "year" because of how assinine the decision to make it Batman and Constantine do magic things Year while Zatanna, one of the most powerful magic users in DC, worked as a glorified teleporter. It's even more assinine when you realize that Constantine WASN'T in the Injustice video game while Zatanna WAS in it as DLC. Promoting random characters that aren't in your game at the expense of DLC characters you wanna promote is REALLY good business!
Just because those two were Batman's strongest allies at that moment doesn't mean you just throw them at the board and see what happens. Someone like Batman would have realized that those two are massively out of their league and would have thought outside the box. Any of these characters could have made it in without adding them to the game and just leaving them to get slaughtered in a cutscene or something. I realize that it's a fighting game and you need to use fighting game characters but not at the expense of the plot. If your plot forces smart characters make stupid moves - write it differently and scrap this scene, do not use plot as the excuse, YOU'RE the writer FFS.
Rich disliking Flash's Rogues is kind of hypocritical considering how much he likes Spidey's villains. They're the same, low life crooks with high tech gimmicks. They're humans and pretty simple minded. The Rogues are cool.
Always watching The thing is the Rogues are super strong. Don't underestimate them. Captain Cold's gun can suposedly freeze atoms. So it makes the Flash slower. Mirror Master is basically a god, same for the Weather Wizard and Abra Kadabra. They're pretty powerful, don't under estimate them. I'd say they're more fearful and dangerous than most of Spidey's foe who are all mostly animalistic.
And the Shocker, Rhino, Scorpion, Electro, The Vulture or The Cameleon are far from being interesting characters. I'm not saying they're not cool but they're canon fodder for Pete to punch until the real villain shows up.
Peter Stellenberg irrelevant. The rogues May be the same, the hero isn’t. That’s the problem. Spider-Man can’t move at the speed of light and go back in time. You’re missing the point.
i would join the red lanterns if i got a magic kitty with the ring.
The problem with Flash's power is relativity - by which I mean he's only fast to others, it's real time to him. If he builds a house in a few seconds, he still has to build an entire house in real time from his POV. Blue Beetle is more like Iron Spider, but since Spidey and BB were both largely Steve Ditko (R.I.P.) creations similarities abound.
Both L. E. Modesitt and Terry Pratchett wrote extensively about magic that obeys set rules that portrayed magic users as scientists of sorts.
“Well people joined Isis, the Joker is not a religion!” What a quote
I thought catwoman really looked like Zelda Williams but when they said Meg Tilly I was like "yup!"
Clinical Stereachramonics(tm)? I'd buy that for a dollar!
Is beer an emotion?
This game and Friday The 13th were THE games I played with all my friends last year. Love both of those games I miss those days.
Superman in the Injustice universe didn't just killed the Joker, he also killed a lot of civilians who opposed the regime...
they say that like twice in the video haha
56:56 Scarecrow is such a dope character
The reason the suits look dumb was to do the whole Armor Powerup mechanics, or something, the trailer was trying to hype that up. You fight and you get armor pieces that look weird and you kinda customize the looks that way, but it had to look "armory" so that's how we get with Superman's jaw helmet.
It's kinda like this game's version of superhero toys like the Spiderman buggy or Hulk with Mecha Arms or stuff.
(Also because they want to beat into your head that this is Evil Universe Costumes)
Is that Jeffrey Combs doing the voice of Brainiac?
The Bezzopulus yep!
"I'm feeling very willful today", sure. that's an emotion.
Will, in DC comics, is a substitute word for courage I guess. Like, whenever you see Green Lanterns get all powerful and shit, its because they're feeling courageous and fight back. It's about the power of belief. Yeah I believe in myself! Yeah I believe I'm stronger than this!
Is it an emotion? Eh. Not really. But is it emotional? Kinda.
The one takeaway from these streams "Oh Damien"
Flubbering Philistine Damien sure does suck. I love their disdain.
the best takeaway is how spot on they are about fucking fanfics hahah
like..if youre already writing a story, why poach existing characters and rip off other people..? youre already creative and motivated enough to write, its just so dumb, especially since so many are just self-insert fantasy crap
Doesn't the existence of Cheetah make Catwoman a cultural appropriator?
Only true SIMPs buy into "cultural appropriation" as morally/ethically improper. Cultures mingle and meld, always have always will, there's nothing wrong with it.
Think of Italian traditional cuisine. What did you think of? Pasta and spaghetti sauce maybe? Well, if Italy bought into the modern idea of "cultural appropriation" then "traditional Italian cuisine" wouldn't exist. Pasta is a Chinese invention and staple and tomatoes came from the new world.
Cultural Appropriation =/= Cultural Exploitation also
Cultural tentpoles aren't fixed and shouldn't be.
1:24:02 I just realized Jack predicted the end of Avengers: Endgame.
FREE SUPERMAN on the protesters signs...how do I get a free Superman?
It looks like the wireframe of Supes chinstrap is showing through on the texture map.
32:56 Ivy looks exactly like Cara Buono! You're welcome
1:12:30 looking for a way to make Superman humble? Simple: book him against the Iron Sheik.
All hail Plinketto, god of endless trash.
Brother Eye wasn't just from this game - it's a deep cut reference to the OMACs.
1:44:48 facts. I’m actually enthralled by this plot.
Looking forward to Jack droppin more N-Bombs
oh sleeping dogs is fucking great, I actually think the car gameplay is better than GTA by FAR. The ability to hold O (or square, I forget) to drift, or slip in between cars back and forth gives you sooo much control since it doesn't have restrictive over-realism, and to make sharp turns, plus you can ram cars which is awesome, and leap from your car onto other cars to hijack them. plus it has really good combat and unlockable moves, customizable outfits and really cool environmental attacks. great story too, its definitely one of the best games of its type for sure
About the Joker discussion, you're thinking of him as an organized crime boss. Think of him more as a cult leader. Charles Manson had followers and he didn't make any more sense than the Joker.
36:29 I was halfway though commenting precisely this. Beat me by two seconds.
the characters in this game look like a porn parody
idk, the costumes aren't really risqué, but all their faces are bizarro uncanny valley weird ones with strange expressions
Someone tell Cyborg that Black Canary could beat the shit out of him any day of the week.
Don Beveridge vs. Hulk Hogan
Who jobs?
49:40 best part of this game 😂
How do you not call it stereopothy?
wait is braniac voiced by the Reanimator? holy shit, oh wait I think they mentioned Jeffrey combs earlier and I forgot haha
in regards to what jack said, there is a good amount of games that go into a beat em up in between standard fights, the jojo game, some of the OP games, its janky sometimes though
Wouldn’t Supergirl and WW be able to help? Did I miss something?! Lol
Hulk Hogan vs. Jerry Jones, the owner of the Dallas Cowboys? I'd pay to see it.
1:01:10 holy shit didn’t expect that 😂😂😂
1:47:12 😂😂😂😂
Where the fuck are the rest of the planets during Supergirl's supah dupah? And why is the sun so close to Earth?
If you like heavy metal album covers Mortal Kombat will get you into fighting games.
the creaters mixed up will power with courage.
Bring this back.
hahahah I really think Rich didn't get the point that Jack was making about fighting games
.. yeah, mortal kombat characters didn't exist before it, but its for fans of fighting games and became its own game series
but Jack is saying if youre not familiar with fighting games, youd go for Smash or Injustice with characters youre familiar with to have an appeal to play it and learn how that genre works, then maybe go off to MK and virtua fighter
marvel vs Capcom definitely plays a lot better and I just like the playable characters way more, not just marvel but dante haha, I mean having a team of Rocket, Deadpool and Dante is just too fun
its funny that anyone who plays this more than 2 minutes knows to use the level weapons or the stage attacks and jack neeever uses them
Just give people stone rings that are colored based on the therapy they need and every month they need to come in to the office to recharge their energy color ring
15:30 Oh my god, that brawl cinematic between beetle, firestorm and cybogr is the lamest shit ever. And I thought actual fights in this game were lame.
55:30 😂😂😂
After the 29 minute mark, if Jack isn't complaining about the costume design for the next hour and a half I'm going to be disappointed.
VagusDoc To be fair it is god awful costume design.
I didn't think the costumes were that bad when I watched the full movie the first time. Now I can't not see it thanks to Jack.
And I can't believe we haven't gotten at least a half hearted obligatory 'what's wrong with their faaaaace' yet.
you like that kids anime, the fuck do you know
supergirl! on me!!
Will is a state of being, but I can see it being used as an emotion (or something similar). Having a spurt of willpower would incite a certain feeling without a doubt.
I guess "will" as an emotion would be feeling strong determination.
the supers are all so lame. you just fly off screen and then do something big and then awkwardly fade back to the battle field.
u guys should play some old shitty games. its always fun watching people play difficult bad games,
26:16 🤮
Yay another one!
The color sound conversation was loud and annoying.
oh no, you don't want to miss the genius story of a 2 year old fighting game about men in tights
looks like this lacks the polish of the new mortal kombats
Why does a fighting videogame have better...everything, than a multi hundred million dollar movie like man of steel? What the fuck is wrong with Hollywood?
Shazam is the magic word of both Captain Marvel (aka Shazam) and Black Adam (who was the Captain Marvel predecessor)...
wow, atrocitus hahaha, that's almost as bad as greivous
Imagine the hate if Zack Snyder would have followed the injustice story xD
He basically did:
-The world hates and fears Superman because of an incident in Metropolis
-Superman kills
-Superman is angry/depressed and disillusioned with humnity
-Batman goes on a mission to stop him
-They team up to fight a larger threat
While not the exact same story BvS had the exact same story beats
Well then Snyder did the light version of that. I can only imagine the even bigger hatred if Superman would have showed his fist trough the Joker and built a pretty much a fascist society with him as dictator. By your comparision it seems Snyder "gets Superman" more than those saying "Snyder does not get Superman" xD
I would love to see a Injustice movie/movie series made by whoever. Adult themed comic books and comic book movies are more interesting, especially when they make us see characters we are used to in a different way and develops the characters from being more than american flag waving heroes that drops more one liners than they fight bad guys.
Superman is not faster than the Flash...
comics logic, sometimes suspension of disbelief is required, I mean most of the superheroes powers would wipe out humanity if used in our universe XD
Why do they say supe-de-dupe like two grown up man babies?
fush n chups
Am I the only one who thinks this game looks insanely ugly?
No, it's pretty bad. Designs are meh, levels are are bland, faces are bad because devs can only make masked ninjas, half of animations are recycled and sped up from their older games that aren't about superheroes, attacks of demigod level superheroes are stubby and uninspired, capes move like trash. The only characters that move good are street level chars that are new to this game and have completely new animations.
I think insanely is taking it a bit far. This is the first Netherrealm Studios game I've seen where women's faces actually look like women's faces. Sure looks a hell of a lot better than the first one.
Looks like much of the comments section agrees with you (myself included...those faces wtf)
But captain cold is a better character than Mr Freeze