Oh, he can be muscular, I was talking more about the way he's carrying himself when he walks normally. Got the really bent arms, head down, shoulders up.
I get that people are thirsty for more open-world Spidey, but honestly if they can't think of anything cool or new to do with it, I'll take this. I really dug this game. And while I generally agree with Rich that Carnage is a very dumb, one-note character, they did a legitimately entertaining storyline with him trying to be a hero and screwing it up hilariously. Oh and he's also right about Venom. As much as fanboys want to rage about how "awesome" and "badass" he is, he chose his name because, and I quote, "I was forced to write VENOMOUS tabloid trash after you ruined my career!"
AlucardaLaCarte Venom wasn't really cool or interesting until he was Flash Thompson where the suit became a metaphor for his alcoholism and need to feel relevant after losing his legs. It was also pretty amusing when we find out the symbiote is a monster because it's addicted to its host's rage chemicals, and Flah basically becomes the symbiote's AA sponsor. Then Marvel went and ruined Venom again by giving the suit back to Eddie Brock and turning him into another tortured man trying to use his evil powers for good.
Exactly. It was also his LITERAL empowerment, so anytime he lost the symbiote, or it had to go into hibernation and he was left on his own, it became a great deal more serious. It was actually a part of the story rather than just a cheap path to superpowers.
This game is actually broken, control-wise. When you wall-crawl, just holding the stick in one direction will have you veering wildly in every direction, possibly the one you even want if you're lucky!
Haha after frog fractions I learned to just ignore jacks insanely bad ability to understand instructions, read or do math haha, but he's on a stream we can cut him some slack Also maybe it's a generational thing, but for me if I run into an issue like that thing I can't pickup, I google it on my phone, 20 seconds later have an answer if it's tutorial/bug/etc
You say that "Christian Bale's rant was uncalled for" but a friend of a friend of a person I know worked on the set and was there when it happened. They said that the rant was on everybody's mind, the person who got yelled at acted like an idiot for a while and Christian was just the one who snapped first.
I stopped buying Spider-Man comics when Norman Osborn came back from the dead and established that he had an affair with Gwen Stacy, and that she was pregnant with his baby before he killed her.
That person bummed out about the woman they were trying to date sounds a bit sketchy. Like Jack says, we don't know the full story, but I FEEL like they probably did something not-cool/creepy, because otherwise how could that woman so easily turn their friends against them?
That was my reading of the situation as well. Like it or not, 'bros before hoes' is generally real and Mr. 33 must have done something very messed up to have his friends take her side
It feels like darker dimension was more focused on web combinations whichwas very entertaining to watch rich own at. If there could be a style meter as well as a least collateral damage meter in both Spiderman and Superman that would be sick, the collateral damage idea is probably one of the best ideas I've heard to save Superman games from being horribly incapable at entertainingly representing Superman's powers. Your idea doesn't fix technological limitations but it does present another type of fun to take advantage of. Awesome. Keep up the great work and thanks for the content and food for thought.
Funny to hear Rich talk about Megaman Legends. That was a favorite game of mine as a kid and today I love those games as a relic to look back on attempts to handle movement and control in the transition to 3D games.
Wooooo the worlds most "pretty good" Spiderman game of all time. Sidenote: The symbiote suit and Mary Jane reacting horribly and getting ptsd from venom and making peter get rid of the cloth version is infinitely more interesting than anything venom has ever actually directly done or thought of because Eddie Brock is genuinely the least interesting symbiote host in the the marvel universe. Even sider note: Resident Evil and it's first two sequels and MGS were the two big system sellers for the ps1 along with FF7
Kurt Adams Crash was good but I wouldn't give it system seller status, also I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure the original tomb raider games also saw pc releases alongside they're console ones. In all fairness we are giving these games a look in retrospect in the context of which ones have lasted and stood the test of time there are probably big time great games on the ps1 that even the hipsterest among us have never even heard of. Edit: I can't believe I forgot to mention symphony of the night.
Michael Marple The story when they agreed to the truce was actually quite interesting. It was cool to see Peter actually realize that some times, leaving well enough alone is preferable to trying to punch a problem away.
SirToby I always thought that was cool just because Pete had to let venom walk knowing he'd be a lethal vigilante but fighting him would only cause more trouble. I did forget about that though but GG is still the king of spider villains
Kurt Adams There were a great deal of wonderful games for the ps1 and like I said, crash was wonderful but I can't personally give it system seller status but it makes sense that the developers went on to make two of the biggest names in modern console gaming (Uncharted and The Last of Us). That being said, hey if it helped sell you one of the best consoles of our time, then I'm happy to hear it.
I'm with you, they missed a beat when they insisted on sticking with Eddie Brock instead of going with the infinitely more interesting Flash Thompson storyline for the movie.
When are Rich and Jack gonna talk about Insomniac's Spider-man games? I'd be interested to hear Rich's take on arguably the best representation of Peter Parker/Spider-man outside of the comics.
Mega Man Legends is great and still holds up! The controls are odd because there was no analog stick back then. Once you figure out you can circle strafe by holding two buttons everything clicks. But go with the PC version so you don't have to deal with the PS1 twitchy integer math polygons.
I loved shattered dimensions so much as kid I 100% it but now that I'm older I find the levels so repetitive and boring and I can't even stomach a single level but it was fun while it lasted atleast for me also you can unlock alternate suits in this game
the "this game is too big for a disk" argument makes no sense. there have been 400gb blu ray discs for over a decade now. and you think microsoft will try sell a game wher the only way people can buy it is if they download the entire game? a game thats too big for a disk is automatically also too big to download.
Matthew Heywood my point is that would make no business sense, physical distribution is still the faster way to transfer data for most people in the world who dont have ultra fast fiber optic. They are more likely to just sneak in their old plan of your game is registered to your account the first time you out it in the console. And they will have some semi benefit to it like being able to share it with a "family member". Killing the resale market. Exactly like they tried to sell as a benefitial system but that killed the xbox for this generation.
Graeme Evans I am not arguing or disagreeing with you but that will be used as an excuse . Possibly also that it will allow them to sell the games cheaper without the discs . It will all be BS but it is coming
As i remember from the cartoon, Venom was more the symbiote than the person being worn by it, and his motivation was mainly due to being rejected by Peter Parker after being so attached to him after being alone in space for an unspecified length of time. I think that's a fine motivation for a comic book character. Venom rules!!!
Looks like I missed the stream, AGAIN! That's fine. I've been meaning to ask you guys for ages if anyone in the RLM crew has seen Murder Party, and if you guys haven't please do. It's the greatest movie in existence that apparently no one has ever seen or heard of. It's a black comedy about a dorky middle aged man finding a flyer for a Halloween "Murder Party" and deciding to go only to find a bunch of insecure art students shocked someone actually answered the flyer. Also, the party is to murder him. This movie is hilarious and well crafted, and it's greatness extends into the extras where the protagonist teaches you to make the same tasty treat and costume he makes in the movie. 11/10. Cannot recommend enough.
Cool. Thx. Now if only more TH-camrs would watch and review it so more people check it out. It's weird that a movie that good has been seen by so few people.
I’m one of the few people who much prefer Arkham Asylum to City. City lacks the fun Jim Lee -esque colorful Batman aesthetic. My general barometer is that if a Batman something or other looks like the first LEGO Batman game I’m all for it.
Westworld season 1 had potential and I liked its open finale. Season 2 fucks up tons of things, it's annoying with it's stupid twists for twist's sake, and the higher budget actually has hurt the writing. It's more shooty less smart. It just sucks balls.
Madame Web: Attack Kraven when he's powering up his attack. Jack: Lemme just stand here while he does then just dodge ten seconds late when he starts charging me.
Rich is a spider man smark. Venom is more than just a spider man hater he just thinks peter is the villan of his own story and the suit amped up his delusion. He actually cares about innocent life. And is quite the hero he just wants spidey dead🙂
My problem with Origins was not that it was too similar to City, that's a great thing, especially after playing Knight. It was just a bland followup to City. It did nothing particularly well and it was buggy. The story was plain trash, too.
You can tell which levels the art people really wanted to work on. Spider-Man Noir just comes out on top of the whole cell shaded thing. The first ASM level with Kraven was just horrid, mostly because they kept shoving really low fidelity models right in your face. Kravens face looks awful, and it also looks like it's mirrored down the mirror. I don't care for how the 2099 levels look either. Ultimate tough? The suit and levels look awesome, and the color scheme of the levels mesh really well with the purple of his suit. Love his voice, walk and idle animations, black suit Spidey should carry himself like that, not Amazing Spidey though. I agree Red and Blue Spidey looks a little too beefy and aggressive. I tried playing this on PC a few years back. I couldn't get past the first few levels, not because it was hard, but because it was fucking boring as fuck, like a shitty PS2 God of War clone, and the performance seemed really poor, not smooth at all. It doesn't even look like bad optimization, I think the animations are just hardcoded at a really low frame-rate. I have no issue with it being linear, my second favorite Spider-Man game was the PS1 game, linear, but not button-mashy and bipolar schizophrenic like this one. Spider-Man doesn't have to be open world. I would love another take on the early Neversoft style of Spider-Man.
"That's so Craven" = a thing on the then-popular _That's So Raven,_ surely. is THAT Spider-Man? is THAT what he's "supposed" to be? why am i a terrible person if i like Toby Maguire? if i consider the "best" Spider-Man to be the one in the best movie??? (which is, come on, _Spider-Man 2_ by SOME length. right?
thank you, hope i didnt come acrossed as rude i know they work hard on their content i love RLM stuff its like crack i cant stop binge watching old eps waitting for the new stuff to hit
I would be OK with CDs dying for console games if console makers offered sales that equaled Steam. Unfortunately, none of the console online stores are remotely as consumer-friendly as Steam, so fuck that they deserve to lose money.
*"I think the game glitched"* *"This game is very broken"* No Jack, as usual you are just fucking up and not paying attention to what the game wants you to do in the tutorial.
Rich, Arkham Knight is not the worst of the three games. It's personally my favorite. I replayed all of them back to back (including Origins), and by far had the most fun with Knight.
In this game Spiderman walks like he's supposed to be a gigantic musclebound thug.
Personnally I prefer Spidey to look beefier. He's Spider-Man after all, not Spider-Boy.
Oh, he can be muscular, I was talking more about the way he's carrying himself when he walks normally. Got the really bent arms, head down, shoulders up.
That's pretty accurate
I get that people are thirsty for more open-world Spidey, but honestly if they can't think of anything cool or new to do with it, I'll take this. I really dug this game.
And while I generally agree with Rich that Carnage is a very dumb, one-note character, they did a legitimately entertaining storyline with him trying to be a hero and screwing it up hilariously. Oh and he's also right about Venom. As much as fanboys want to rage about how "awesome" and "badass" he is, he chose his name because, and I quote, "I was forced to write VENOMOUS tabloid trash after you ruined my career!"
AlucardaLaCarte
Venom wasn't really cool or interesting until he was Flash Thompson where the suit became a metaphor for his alcoholism and need to feel relevant after losing his legs. It was also pretty amusing when we find out the symbiote is a monster because it's addicted to its host's rage chemicals, and Flah basically becomes the symbiote's AA sponsor.
Then Marvel went and ruined Venom again by giving the suit back to Eddie Brock and turning him into another tortured man trying to use his evil powers for good.
Exactly. It was also his LITERAL empowerment, so anytime he lost the symbiote, or it had to go into hibernation and he was left on his own, it became a great deal more serious. It was actually a part of the story rather than just a cheap path to superpowers.
It's the symbiote that makes Venom interesting, not Eddie Brock. I think that's what people are forgetting.
Maybe Rich liked Spider-Man: Homecoming because, as an old man, he identifies more with the Vulture now.
*"That's so Kraven"*
Ok, burn this game.
Why ?
*facepalm* when Jack fails even to follow a basic tutorial prompt...
This game is actually broken, control-wise. When you wall-crawl, just holding the stick in one direction will have you veering wildly in every direction, possibly the one you even want if you're lucky!
Haha after frog fractions I learned to just ignore jacks insanely bad ability to understand instructions, read or do math haha, but he's on a stream we can cut him some slack
Also maybe it's a generational thing, but for me if I run into an issue like that thing I can't pickup, I google it on my phone, 20 seconds later have an answer if it's tutorial/bug/etc
One More Day is widely considered the worst Spider Man story
So why was Jack unable to pick up that second tutorial thing? Was he doing something wrong, or was the game genuinely not working right?
He wasn't following the goals of the tutorial needed to progress. This is Jack afterall.
Guess I should have known
The idea that he thought the game was glitching is the annoying part.
You say that "Christian Bale's rant was uncalled for" but a friend of a friend of a person I know worked on the set and was there when it happened. They said that the rant was on everybody's mind, the person who got yelled at acted like an idiot for a while and Christian was just the one who snapped first.
Friend of a friend of a person you know is a good enough source for me.
Riiiight
You didn't outgrow Spider Man, Rich. There's just a glut of Spider Man out there and you're burnt out.
I stopped buying Spider-Man comics when Norman Osborn came back from the dead and established that he had an affair with Gwen Stacy, and that she was pregnant with his baby before he killed her.
That person bummed out about the woman they were trying to date sounds a bit sketchy. Like Jack says, we don't know the full story, but I FEEL like they probably did something not-cool/creepy, because otherwise how could that woman so easily turn their friends against them?
That was my reading of the situation as well. Like it or not, 'bros before hoes' is generally real and Mr. 33 must have done something very messed up to have his friends take her side
It feels like darker dimension was more focused on web combinations whichwas very entertaining to watch rich own at. If there could be a style meter as well as a least collateral damage meter in both Spiderman and Superman that would be sick, the collateral damage idea is probably one of the best ideas I've heard to save Superman games from being horribly incapable at entertainingly representing Superman's powers. Your idea doesn't fix technological limitations but it does present another type of fun to take advantage of. Awesome. Keep up the great work and thanks for the content and food for thought.
Funny to hear Rich talk about Megaman Legends. That was a favorite game of mine as a kid and today I love those games as a relic to look back on attempts to handle movement and control in the transition to 3D games.
I bought GTA V on steam, and still I have copies of the cracked version on hard drives. I'm, like they said, a game prepper.
I hope you get to fly through rings in that new superman game and one of the unlockable moves is to break peoples necks.
I loved this show
While watching the hammerhead boss fight I was imagining a balding teen Jack struggling in vain while failing at Crash Bandicoot
Wooooo the worlds most "pretty good" Spiderman game of all time.
Sidenote: The symbiote suit and Mary Jane reacting horribly and getting ptsd from venom and making peter get rid of the cloth version is infinitely more interesting than anything venom has ever actually directly done or thought of because Eddie Brock is genuinely the least interesting symbiote host in the the marvel universe.
Even sider note: Resident Evil and it's first two sequels and MGS were the two big system sellers for the ps1 along with FF7
Kurt Adams Crash was good but I wouldn't give it system seller status, also I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure the original tomb raider games also saw pc releases alongside they're console ones. In all fairness we are giving these games a look in retrospect in the context of which ones have lasted and stood the test of time there are probably big time great games on the ps1 that even the hipsterest among us have never even heard of.
Edit: I can't believe I forgot to mention symphony of the night.
Michael Marple The story when they agreed to the truce was actually quite interesting. It was cool to see Peter actually realize that some times, leaving well enough alone is preferable to trying to punch a problem away.
SirToby I always thought that was cool just because Pete had to let venom walk knowing he'd be a lethal vigilante but fighting him would only cause more trouble. I did forget about that though but GG is still the king of spider villains
Kurt Adams There were a great deal of wonderful games for the ps1 and like I said, crash was wonderful but I can't personally give it system seller status but it makes sense that the developers went on to make two of the biggest names in modern console gaming (Uncharted and The Last of Us). That being said, hey if it helped sell you one of the best consoles of our time, then I'm happy to hear it.
I'm with you, they missed a beat when they insisted on sticking with Eddie Brock instead of going with the infinitely more interesting Flash Thompson storyline for the movie.
When are Rich and Jack gonna talk about Insomniac's Spider-man games? I'd be interested to hear Rich's take on arguably the best representation of Peter Parker/Spider-man outside of the comics.
Oh no. Who's gonna be the one to break the bad news?
Spectacular Spiderman is the best adaptation of the character
Change my mind
Mega Man Legends is great and still holds up! The controls are odd because there was no analog stick back then. Once you figure out you can circle strafe by holding two buttons everything clicks. But go with the PC version so you don't have to deal with the PS1 twitchy integer math polygons.
I loved shattered dimensions so much as kid I 100% it but now that I'm older I find the levels so repetitive and boring and I can't even stomach a single level but it was fun while it lasted atleast for me also you can unlock alternate suits in this game
God Rich is so condescending and annoying when he complains about comic book inaccuracies. You need mike to moderate him
Gambit08 isn’t that what we like about him?
He quit twitch cuz ppl like u always moaning
@Linda Niemkiewicz yep
I played the shit outta this game, back when it came out. And yes, One More Day made me give up on comics.
the "this game is too big for a disk" argument makes no sense. there have been 400gb blu ray discs for over a decade now. and you think microsoft will try sell a game wher the only way people can buy it is if they download the entire game? a game thats too big for a disk is automatically also too big to download.
Graeme Evans doesn’t mean they won’t use it
Matthew Heywood my point is that would make no business sense, physical distribution is still the faster way to transfer data for most people in the world who dont have ultra fast fiber optic.
They are more likely to just sneak in their old plan of your game is registered to your account the first time you out it in the console. And they will have some semi benefit to it like being able to share it with a "family member". Killing the resale market. Exactly like they tried to sell as a benefitial system but that killed the xbox for this generation.
Graeme Evans I am not arguing or disagreeing with you but that will be used as an excuse . Possibly also that it will allow them to sell the games cheaper without the discs . It will all be BS but it is coming
There is a story about a whethered old Spiderman, it's called "Spider-man Reign"
I want you guys to play spiderman ps1
I'm issuing a week off to work on reading comprehension
Maximum Carnage, more like Maximum Bikeage or somethin'
I like spiders
Why is Spider Man fighting Minsc? And where is Boo?
Gallen Dugall I was waiting for "Go for the eyes!"
As i remember from the cartoon, Venom was more the symbiote than the person being worn by it, and his motivation was mainly due to being rejected by Peter Parker after being so attached to him after being alone in space for an unspecified length of time. I think that's a fine motivation for a comic book character. Venom rules!!!
So basically venom is a butt hurt incel that can't handle rejection? Lmao yeah, he sounds super cool
That’s crazy the game was broken but good thing Jack had the wherewithal to realize it.
I've always wanted a spiderman open world game in the future :(
Agent Venom is pretty good tho.
Looks like I missed the stream, AGAIN! That's fine. I've been meaning to ask you guys for ages if anyone in the RLM crew has seen Murder Party, and if you guys haven't please do. It's the greatest movie in existence that apparently no one has ever seen or heard of. It's a black comedy about a dorky middle aged man finding a flyer for a Halloween "Murder Party" and deciding to go only to find a bunch of insecure art students shocked someone actually answered the flyer. Also, the party is to murder him. This movie is hilarious and well crafted, and it's greatness extends into the extras where the protagonist teaches you to make the same tasty treat and costume he makes in the movie. 11/10. Cannot recommend enough.
Jay has seen it, and recommended it in this video at 5:15. th-cam.com/video/pfGFcokeLFs/w-d-xo.html
Cool. Thx. Now if only more TH-camrs would watch and review it so more people check it out. It's weird that a movie that good has been seen by so few people.
I thought the Sandman level was the first level...
That level is actually good. It's too bad you didn't play that level.
No rich, you never outgrew spiderman. They fucked it into the ground like everything else lol there is just too much of it!
I’m one of the few people who much prefer Arkham Asylum to City. City lacks the fun Jim Lee -esque colorful Batman aesthetic. My general barometer is that if a Batman something or other looks like the first LEGO Batman game I’m all for it.
It’s also more pacy and I like the story more. Terrible final boss though, dead horse I know.
Side note: Batman Beyond game would kick ass
More pacy? You mean better paced right?
J M No, that means moving quickly I’m pretty sure. What I mean to say is that it did just as much in a shorter time.
Rich couldn't get into speedrunning because he doesn't piss the bed.
Brah!!! They announced you change back into the classic outfit at anytime.
Westworld season 1 had potential and I liked its open finale. Season 2 fucks up tons of things, it's annoying with it's stupid twists for twist's sake, and the higher budget actually has hurt the writing. It's more shooty less smart. It just sucks balls.
Jack is awful at this game.
Surprised?
Madame Web: Attack Kraven when he's powering up his attack.
Jack: Lemme just stand here while he does then just dodge ten seconds late when he starts charging me.
Rich is a spider man smark. Venom is more than just a spider man hater he just thinks peter is the villan of his own story and the suit amped up his delusion. He actually cares about innocent life. And is quite the hero he just wants spidey dead🙂
*is bad at the game*
"This game is really broken"
Ok jack
Welcome to Pre Rec!
@@duck8712 spergs still get mad when people aren't gods at every game? fuck me grow up guys
My problem with Origins was not that it was too similar to City, that's a great thing, especially after playing Knight. It was just a bland followup to City. It did nothing particularly well and it was buggy. The story was plain trash, too.
Bring this back.
If this game was open world it would be almost perfect.
Westworld wants to be a great show
Hearing Minsc from Baldur's gate at around 34-35 minutes is distracting me.
Rich totally hates that David guy.
You can tell which levels the art people really wanted to work on. Spider-Man Noir just comes out on top of the whole cell shaded thing. The first ASM level with Kraven was just horrid, mostly because they kept shoving really low fidelity models right in your face. Kravens face looks awful, and it also looks like it's mirrored down the mirror. I don't care for how the 2099 levels look either. Ultimate tough? The suit and levels look awesome, and the color scheme of the levels mesh really well with the purple of his suit. Love his voice, walk and idle animations, black suit Spidey should carry himself like that, not Amazing Spidey though. I agree Red and Blue Spidey looks a little too beefy and aggressive.
I tried playing this on PC a few years back. I couldn't get past the first few levels, not because it was hard, but because it was fucking boring as fuck, like a shitty PS2 God of War clone, and the performance seemed really poor, not smooth at all. It doesn't even look like bad optimization, I think the animations are just hardcoded at a really low frame-rate. I have no issue with it being linear, my second favorite Spider-Man game was the PS1 game, linear, but not button-mashy and bipolar schizophrenic like this one. Spider-Man doesn't have to be open world. I would love another take on the early Neversoft style of Spider-Man.
Train to Busan and I Am a Hero are both fantastic takes on the zombie genre well worth the time.
"That's so Craven" = a thing on the then-popular _That's So Raven,_ surely.
is THAT Spider-Man? is THAT what he's "supposed" to be?
why am i a terrible person if i like Toby Maguire? if i consider the "best" Spider-Man to be the one in the best movie???
(which is, come on, _Spider-Man 2_ by SOME length. right?
Turns out Rocksteady is working on a suicide squad game and its horrible
Sky Hard starring Dwayne Johnson
SHOULDNT any open city batman game be using the same map though?
i dont want to sound ungrateful but when are we getting new RLM best of the worst?
I heard tomorrow.
thank you, hope i didnt come acrossed as rude i know they work hard on their content i love RLM stuff its like crack i cant stop binge watching old eps waitting for the new stuff to hit
i even got my work buddies into their stuff.... my boss thinks im crazy
I know how you feel, i'm totally addicted to their content.
Came out today. Wheel of the worst. Colin and jay guest star
The buldmen tho
I would be OK with CDs dying for console games if console makers offered sales that equaled Steam. Unfortunately, none of the console online stores are remotely as consumer-friendly as Steam, so fuck that they deserve to lose money.
Play something better, you hack frauds!!! I'm not paying you for this!
who r u
This game would be WAY better than Web of Shadows if it was open world
*"I think the game glitched"*
*"This game is very broken"*
No Jack, as usual you are just fucking up and not paying attention to what the game wants you to do in the tutorial.
First you hacks!!!
Thank goodness for cell phones.
Rich, Arkham Knight is not the worst of the three games. It's personally my favorite. I replayed all of them back to back (including Origins), and by far had the most fun with Knight.
"Rich, your personal opinion is incorrect on account of the fact that my personal opinion exists"
It is his opinion shockingly yours is different see how that works ?
People forget that Spider-Man games invented the Batman fighting style. The Arkham games just became synonymous with it.
This game is rancid shit
Arkham just took ass creeds combat so quit acting like wb invented it.