Now I don’t have to worry about embarrassing myself in front of the grips. This is awesome Josiah (and team). Such great communication, and dapper as ever.
Norms makes a super c stand which has thicker tubing than standard c stands. More robust and can handle heavier loads. We all know people push the c stands beyond what they were designed for in certain situations like booming out. Having a heavier c stand such as the Norms Super c stand will help mitigate any brave souls out there who want to test the limits of what they were designed for. Great video.
This was good. Second time watching already. So glad someone finally says it: they’re not light stands! I’m a home studio guy, and we’re the BIGGEST perpetrators here. Also, just discovered Norm’s, when I can afford pro C-stands I think I’m goin with them. Thanks! Anywho, love the content, keep it up! *SUB*
Seriously the best c-stand tutorial on TH-cam. So many of the other videos are teaching people to use c-stands the wrong way or are leaving out key information. Your video cleared up so many questions for me! One question I do have is that in the video you mentioned that while c-stands often carry heavier loads than a light, they are not light stands. I'm curious about the other uses of c-stands beyond what you covered here.
Thanks for the feedback! Primarily, they're used for holding flags, diffusion, and scrims. But I find them to be extremely versatile - possibly my most-used item on set. You can help other departments too. Holding set pieces or props for art dept, a makeshift clothing rack for wardrobe, rigging things for cam dept or even cameras themselves, holding sound blankets for sound dept, etc.. A real beauty about C-stands is the ability to hold something in just about any position in space - which is infinitely useful.
If it is Spectrum C stand you're referring to at 2:40 in this clip then i must say it's not cheap as described. For most people, it works great and does exactly what it should but like you mentioned...your preference for other brands...
I bought one of those under the Neweer brand a few years back. It was on sale on Amazon, and for $100 US, why not? I have not used it on location, but for a studio stand it’s fine. I don’t particularly like the grip arm (or the fiddly 1/4-20 screw on the end)-that might be the weakest part. But for a hundred bucks and free delivery to Mexico, I can live with it.
Watched. Took notes. Great presentation and coverage of the topic. I've had to learn some of these lessons the hard way, and I really appreciated you taking the time to go over the basics. BTW, sarcasm is my first language too. 37:01
Thank you, Josiah! I recognized you from the many on set workshops from Shane’s site. Great stuff! Very valuable and humorous too. What I noticed is that you are very quick with changing the set-ups, which is super important on set. So wondering if you could share your knowledge how to quickly adjust c-stands (for instance more detail on where to place which hand when mounting a floppy or what to do with the knuckle so the flag slides into the hole right away, from which angle to insert the floppy, etc.) Basically how to get up to speed when setting up grip equipment. Thanks again, Matze
Hey @@JamonSerranoFilms, yes guilty as charged! That is me in Shane’s stuff. Filmmaker Academy is the best content for aspiring cinematographers you can get. Practice and familiarity certainly help with speed. Thanks for the feedback, we’ll consider C-stands part two 😁
Nicely done. Great content for beginners and even DPs that sometimes need a little refresh on what everyone else is doing while they are sitting on a comfortable cushioned dolly seat sipping tea. I think I have that same couch.
@dappergaffer loved your content for awhile, I'm on board. Keep up the good work. I'm certain you'll help me in my forays into video. Rented my Nanlites out today on set. Continuing to build
If you have a roll of seamless, you can use a pair of C-stands for this - simply place an arm in each end of the roll. Still, be sure the long leg is in the direction of the load and knuckles are on the right
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well...I bought the wrong stand and the cheap brand you showed. Thanks for the quick course.
IMO it does make sense to bag the second leg facing away from the load to counter balance as a secondary measure after placing the first big leg under the load (provided the bag doesn’t touch the ground). It also serves a secondary function to counter any force pushing over the stand at a diagonal 45 between the leg orientations. Curious if you’ve found the above to be less effective than bagging the first big leg?
It would be interesting to do some quantifiable foot-pound measurements to see if that secondary leg is any more helpful the a second bag on the long leg. Physics can be surprising
37:03 There’s a joke about how the union tests for aptitude when a total newbie wants to join. They lock them in a room with a bowling ball and come back in five minutes. If the bowling ball is broken, that person becomes a grip. If the bowling ball is lost, they go into the props department. OK, one more. Jan Debont likes to shoot with available light. EVERY available light. (True story-he rented ever fixture at a rental house I worked in the early 90s, and we also had to subrent a bunch of fixtures. But I’m sure you can substitute any DP for Jan.) Now can anyone tell me how many DPs it takes to screw in a lightbulb? 😅
The video starts, and I think, "Oh look, he's got my C-stand there." A second later, "Don't buy this; this is bad". At least now I know how to use it properly hahaha.
You’re fine. Just never bring it to set or let anyone see it. 😂 If sound or craft or any other department needs to borrow a stand, this is the one you give them.
I own one. It’s fine for light use, a photo studio, TH-cam content creators, etc. It’s probably not what you want in a rental package or location work. Just saying.
@@dappergaffer I bought one on Amazon, on sale for $100. I don’t know how it would hold up on location (the arm seems a little wonky), but so far it’s been fine for home studio use. If I was going to outfit an insert stage and needed to economize, I’d consider it. But for location work, it might be a false economy. If I was still working big shows, this is the c-stand I’d loan out to other departments. 😂
Now I don’t have to worry about embarrassing myself in front of the grips. This is awesome Josiah (and team). Such great communication, and dapper as ever.
Norms makes a super c stand which has thicker tubing than standard c stands. More robust and can handle heavier loads. We all know people push the c stands beyond what they were designed for in certain situations like booming out. Having a heavier c stand such as the Norms Super c stand will help mitigate any brave souls out there who want to test the limits of what they were designed for. Great video.
@@gregthompson8062 I do like the new Norms stands
This was good. Second time watching already. So glad someone finally says it: they’re not light stands! I’m a home studio guy, and we’re the BIGGEST perpetrators here.
Also, just discovered Norm’s, when I can afford pro C-stands I think I’m goin with them. Thanks!
Anywho, love the content, keep it up!
*SUB*
Thanks for the encouragement bro 😎
Seriously the best c-stand tutorial on TH-cam. So many of the other videos are teaching people to use c-stands the wrong way or are leaving out key information. Your video cleared up so many questions for me! One question I do have is that in the video you mentioned that while c-stands often carry heavier loads than a light, they are not light stands. I'm curious about the other uses of c-stands beyond what you covered here.
Thanks for the feedback! Primarily, they're used for holding flags, diffusion, and scrims. But I find them to be extremely versatile - possibly my most-used item on set. You can help other departments too. Holding set pieces or props for art dept, a makeshift clothing rack for wardrobe, rigging things for cam dept or even cameras themselves, holding sound blankets for sound dept, etc.. A real beauty about C-stands is the ability to hold something in just about any position in space - which is infinitely useful.
The information is very valuable, thanks.
Such a great video. Felt like I was watching the Ron Swanson of Gaffing.
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great video! Such professional and comprehensive content is appreciated, keep it up! Thanks 😀
@@jaimecarsa thanks man
If it is Spectrum C stand you're referring to at 2:40 in this clip then i must say it's not cheap as described. For most people, it works great and does exactly what it should but like you mentioned...your preference for other brands...
I bought one of those under the Neweer brand a few years back. It was on sale on Amazon, and for $100 US, why not? I have not used it on location, but for a studio stand it’s fine. I don’t particularly like the grip arm (or the fiddly 1/4-20 screw on the end)-that might be the weakest part. But for a hundred bucks and free delivery to Mexico, I can live with it.
Watched. Took notes. Great presentation and coverage of the topic. I've had to learn some of these lessons the hard way, and I really appreciated you taking the time to go over the basics. BTW, sarcasm is my first language too. 37:01
Thanks Joel, and glad to hear we are brothers of a native tongue ;-)
Fantastic explanation on C stands.
Thank you, Josiah! I recognized you from the many on set workshops from Shane’s site. Great stuff! Very valuable and humorous too.
What I noticed is that you are very quick with changing the set-ups, which is super important on set.
So wondering if you could share your knowledge how to quickly adjust c-stands (for instance more detail on where to place which hand when mounting a floppy or what to do with the knuckle so the flag slides into the hole right away, from which angle to insert the floppy, etc.)
Basically how to get up to speed when setting up grip equipment.
Thanks again,
Matze
Hey @@JamonSerranoFilms, yes guilty as charged! That is me in Shane’s stuff. Filmmaker Academy is the best content for aspiring cinematographers you can get.
Practice and familiarity certainly help with speed. Thanks for the feedback, we’ll consider C-stands part two 😁
Loved this! Great job guys
Nicely done. Great content for beginners and even DPs that sometimes need a little refresh on what everyone else is doing while they are sitting on a comfortable cushioned dolly seat sipping tea. I think I have that same couch.
Thank you sir! Oh to be a DP sitting on a cushioned dolly seat sipping tea 😉
Dude this was dope, thanks for sharing your knowledge! 😁
Awesome video thank you so much. I like the sense of humor.😂
@@marctoya thank you sir
Great deep dive!
A good look indeed! Highly informational and entertaining! Great Content, looks awesome as well!
Thank you sir! That means a lot coming from a man of your caliber
Glad I found this channel
This was entertaining and informative. Please keep em coming.
If you stayed till the end - you get a gold star
@@dappergaffer I couldn't resist. Also, 37:05 was hilarious and relatable. Glad you kept that in there. 😆
@@maddrummer900 😆
I have a few matthews with a little skinny knob above the base. Super easy to deploy. Don't see them often.
I know what you’re talking about, I’ve used them a few times. But don’t have any in my inventory
@dappergaffer loved your content for awhile, I'm on board. Keep up the good work. I'm certain you'll help me in my forays into video. Rented my Nanlites out today on set. Continuing to build
@@NJRIII Keep at it bro!
Amazing video, thank you 🙌🏽 Subscribed
we need the updated beefy baby and mombo combos etc. video! Please tell me its coming
@@leafsnomore next video we’re working on is a light review - but thanks for the feedback, we’ll move it up the priority list!
It’s been a busy summer
Excelente trabajo, muy informativo, gracias por compartir.
Gracias a usted, señor
Great stuff here!
Thanks broski
thank you, please show how to hang backdrops for talking heads.
If you have a roll of seamless, you can use a pair of C-stands for this - simply place an arm in each end of the roll. Still, be sure the long leg is in the direction of the load and knuckles are on the right
well...I bought the wrong stand and the cheap brand you showed. Thanks for the quick course.
Bummer, we’ve all made bad buys at one point or another 😉
Love it 🙌🏼
IMO it does make sense to bag the second leg facing away from the load to counter balance as a secondary measure after placing the first big leg under the load (provided the bag doesn’t touch the ground).
It also serves a secondary function to counter any force pushing over the stand at a diagonal 45 between the leg orientations.
Curious if you’ve found the above to be less effective than bagging the first big leg?
It would be interesting to do some quantifiable foot-pound measurements to see if that secondary leg is any more helpful the a second bag on the long leg. Physics can be surprising
37:03 There’s a joke about how the union tests for aptitude when a total newbie wants to join. They lock them in a room with a bowling ball and come back in five minutes. If the bowling ball is broken, that person becomes a grip. If the bowling ball is lost, they go into the props department.
OK, one more. Jan Debont likes to shoot with available light. EVERY available light. (True story-he rented ever fixture at a rental house I worked in the early 90s, and we also had to subrent a bunch of fixtures. But I’m sure you can substitute any DP for Jan.)
Now can anyone tell me how many DPs it takes to screw in a lightbulb? 😅
@@MarcosElMalo2 😆😆
Very good! Keep it up!
Thanks!
Beefy Baby was my wrestling name in the 80's
I would be intimidated 😂
The video starts, and I think, "Oh look, he's got my C-stand there." A second later, "Don't buy this; this is bad". At least now I know how to use it properly hahaha.
@@setlam2 😆 sorry bro
You’re fine. Just never bring it to set or let anyone see it. 😂 If sound or craft or any other department needs to borrow a stand, this is the one you give them.
For the algorithm brother
My 3.5 year old son saw me watching this and said "its Jim Dear from Lady and the Tramp!"
😆 excellent reference
Excellent.
Now Neewer C-stand from China is the leading in the world.
😂
@@dappergaffer😂😂😂 I see what you did there
I own one. It’s fine for light use, a photo studio, TH-cam content creators, etc. It’s probably not what you want in a rental package or location work. Just saying.
Lol totally shitted on the Newer stand
I didn't name the manufacturer 😁
@dappergaffer 😂 I know a Newer stand when I see one. Are you still going to make a combo stand video?
😆. Yes on the combo video. Plan to crank out some more in the new year. Had to shift some priority based on some product reviews we’re working on
@@dappergaffer I bought one on Amazon, on sale for $100. I don’t know how it would hold up on location (the arm seems a little wonky), but so far it’s been fine for home studio use. If I was going to outfit an insert stage and needed to economize, I’d consider it. But for location work, it might be a false economy.
If I was still working big shows, this is the c-stand I’d loan out to other departments. 😂
@ Sure wardrobe, you can have a C-stand. I saved this one just for you!