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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2021
- Hi guys
I came today with a very good surprise, many friends have said, is it possible to make a filament production machine without an Arduino board, ramp and stepper motor or without buying expensive power supplies? The answer of these friends is yes 🥰😊
I tried very hard to do this with the least facilities and finally I could.
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Other parts:
#1 Multicolor printing :
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#2 Bottle Cutter :
• #2 Bottle Cutter - Det...
#3 Extruder and nozzle :
• #3 Extruder and nozzle...
#4 Heat and motion control board
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#5 Gears and traction mechanism
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#6 Heat and motion control with Thermostat W1209 & gearbox motor
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#7 Connection and collect filaments
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Well you need these things:
Old computer power supplies or power supplies that can be repaired at a lower price
Thermostat module W 1209
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12 volt gearbox motor 50 rpm
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Diode 5408 6 pcs
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Thermistor 100 kg
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12 volt 40 Watt Heating Cartridge
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STL engine connection(Free download up to 10 days from the date of release) :
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STL cat:
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امروز اومدم با یک سورپرایزخیلی خوب ، خیلی از دوستان گفته بودن آیا میشه بدون برد آردویینو و رمپ و استپر موتور یا بدون خرید پاورهای گران قیمت دستگاه تولید فیلامنت را درست کرد ؟ جواب این دوستان بله هست 😊
من خیلی تلاش کردم که بتونم با حداقل امکانات این رو ممکن کنم و بالاخره تونستم .
خب شما به این چیزها نیاز دارید :
- پاور کامپیوتر های قدیمی یا پاورهایی که تعمیرشدن رو میتونید با قیمت پایینتری بخرید
موتور گیربکسی ۱۲ ولت ۵۰ دور در دقیقه
دیود 5408 ۶ عدد
ماژول ترموستات W ۱۲۰۹
ترمیستور ۱۰۰ کیلو
هیتر ۱۲ ولت ۴۰ وات - บันเทิง
Why did you use w1209 and not the arduino shield?
I think he uses it because is cheaper XD
@@mauriciocalderon102 Lol, he already use the arduino for the stepper motor, the arduino shield already have connections for thermistor, so I wonder why he used the w1209 but not the arduino.
@@fastprojects this setup is without arduino and stepper motors so cheaper and simpler
@@tristansimonin1376 you're wrong my friend look at video number 5 and you will see.
@@fastprojects it's a new setup with a dc current gear reduce motor
Thank you for this series! I was able to follow your designs and build the machine. After some troubleshooting, I had my first successful print from homemade filament. You have done great work and I appreciate what you have done!
Glad I could help!
Could you share the STL files
Not only are these videos entertaining, but they're also informative! Good job!
Keep up the good work! Nice as all your videos. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks, will do!
Wahou bravo pour ce tuto à moindre cout avec le W1209 ! Génial.
Merci
Merci cher ami
THANK YOU MAN!! Was finding a cheaper option.
Finaly... nice video man... thank you for sharing... love it...
Glad you enjoyed it!
It's just really cool !
Thanks dear friend
excellent work. apart from being a great progress for the project, it is a great alternative for those of us who do not handle arduino. Cheers
Yes, you are right
thank you you are awesome for real 👏🏻
Toppp! Very Good!
Thank you! Cheers!
Lovely!!
Thank you! Cheers!
Great crack! Thanks for this very useful videos!
Glad it was helpful!
Great!!
this seems like a ton of work, I would definitely buy this if it was a product.
와 대박!!!!
good job
Hello Mr3d print good man.I am so happy there is still good people in the world, and you are one of them.You share with us all your great work and knoledge ,Its amazing how much you know about d printing and most important about plastic recycling...Thank you for sharing your awesome work thru this you tube channel..Now you have never mention about your 3d printer. Can you please in a future make a video about your printer, looks like you made it yourself...It just prints everything you trow at it...THANK YOU
Soon I will make a tutorial video for making a 3D printer
Very good work
Thanks
Thank you very much mr 3D
You are very welcome
Дякую. В мене все выйшло!
Thank you. Everything worked out for me!👌👍
wow good
Great project, @mr3dprint! I have a doubt about the needed power supply: how many amps.does it need to have in order to work?
I have a lot of 12V 3A PSU abandoned in my job and maybe putting some in parallel can avoid me buying one.
Kind regards.
این 12 ولت و 15 آمپر است
Cool
I've made a similar setup using an old 3d printer board and an extruder to pull the filament from the nozzle, is working like charm. Thanks for your videos, you're great! I'll try a gearbox (when I find one, I mostly use parts from trash).
Where is the video of your set-up?
Nice work √
Thank you! 😊
Maybe something to consider, but each bottle makes you around 20/22 grams of filament. Maybe there is a way to connect the cut bottle strips before pulling them into filament and thereby getting longer piece of filament in 1 piece? Or if not connecting it before pulling/extruding then maybe connect it afterwards? Otherwise you have to manually stop printing and change filament a lot. An idea for an extra video tutorial ?
Watch video number #1 Multicolor printing
Awesome content! What retraction settings are you using on this print?
I will make a video on this soon
Superb
Thanks 🤗
Hello I bought the W1209 a few years ago.
I always wanted to build a pet filament extruder and now I found your video it explains well but I have a question about the W1209 sensor.
Why did you connect the W1209 sensor with a diode 5408 to the thermistor 100K.
Thanks in advance
Hello we’re did u buy these wires ps I’m a huge fan
Gr8 video, a strength test of print would be nice
Great point!
nice one
Thanks for the visit
I have a question, where do I connect the gearbox motor? To the 12v, but which ? To the green board directly or to the wires which come from it and create a 12v as in the scheme?? And the board how do I connect it to the power supply? Which 12v do i use? From the green board or from wires
I like Your Projects very much 👍🖖
I bett if you would make a Kickstarter project that would be a success and would enable many people that don't have your skills to recycle ther bottles to new items and could recycle even ther left over stuff properly. 🤗
I wish the not successful 3d prints could be so easy recycled in new filaments too. 🤔
Do your tutorial videos have voice over explaining details on assembly?
No, the full description is in the video
in the video you connected one of the resistance wires to k1 and the other to the negative of the source and in k0 you connected the 12v, but in the diagram it's totally different. what would be the correct connection?
You mentioned a good point, dear friend, but the two are not different if they are connected interchangeably
Awesome video and I'm going to build one for myself. I don't understand however the purpose of the 6 diodes in series connecting power to the motor. You make reference in the comments about adjusting the motor speed by adjusting the number of diodes, but what purpose do they solve. Don't they pass through full power, just in one direction only? If they provide resistance to control motor speed, why not use resistors? Many thanks for this series of excellent tutorials.
Thanks dear friend, yes I used a diode to reduce the voltage and thus reduce the motor speed, this was my solution for this, you may use another method for it, it is important to reduce the motor speed
@@mr3dp What speed should the motor be reduced to?
Thank you for your explanations !
How do you calculate temperature range with the new thermistor ?
What are the caracteristics of your two thermistor ? B = 3950 for both ?
Watch the video
@@mr3dp I did it many times but can't find any information about how to calculate equivalent temperature. I tried by my own with thermistor equations but I don't find the same temperatures.
Could you help me please ? 🙏
is there too much difference between inflating and heating the bottle vs not doing it? and if so, how you did the system? im thinking you cut a bike valve and then glued it to a holed cap?
see video #2 Bottle Cutter
hello sir, brilliant idea.
the filament created from the bottle is hollow inside.
I have done the same as you and the filament obtained is hollow inside
Cool, thanks
How did you put together the motor piece? the 3d print plate doesn't fit the motor and what screws did you use?
The 3D file is correct, but your engine may be different from the one I used
Excelente alternativa a la ramps. Ya quiero hacer mi recicladora de botellas.
Dos observaciones, las temperaturas Celsius y Farenheit están incorrectas. 7:25
Y el w1209 trabaja hasta 100 grados Celsius.
Excelente trabajo, gracias por compartir.
La temperatura ingresada es correcta (por supuesto, esta temperatura no es real porque la temperatura de 77.5 grados Celsius que se muestra en el panel es en realidad 205 grados) Lea el texto del video
@@mr3dp Leí el texto, lo que no logro comprender es la equivalencia. Como quiera lo probaré, los circuitos son muy económicos. Gracias por responder. Saludos.
Hola ! Yo no logró que el hotend suba la temperatura , cuál será mi error ? Gracias !
Hola! Yo no logró que suba la temperatura a que se debe mi problema ? Gracias !!!!!
@@workshop506 a mi me pasa igual hay desinformacion en el video
Can you used a 5404 diode
متشکرم از شما
what is the purpose of 6 diodes in series which connected to ground wire of dc motor ?
Hello friend, very good video, can it be done with a 12v 10 amp source?
Yes you can
Amigo, não sei se eu não consegui entender, mas onde esta conectado motor? Direto na fonte? Ou esta no modulo?
Belos videos, optei em fazer com esse modulo por ja possuir ele.
Obrigado
Não entendi, mas o motor é de 12 volts e deve ser ligado na fonte de alimentação também pode ser ligado separadamente
How much ampere does the power supply required.
Hi! Excellent job! What about the step motor?
No need
@@mr3dp Ok! Very simple!!! Thanks for the experience! I would like to build the Atmega 328 for choose the temperature and velocity of the motor like you did for the other project. But i need to learn how to program the atmega at the a4988 and thermostats to show on screen.
Do you have any precautions or concerns about heating the plastic?
no
What is the formula to calculate the temperature equivalent for 70k thermistor
Check description
I see that the power supply has 2 yellows and 2 black wires, is one couple of yellow and black for the thermostat and the other for the motor? Or the motor connects to the thermostat
The motor is connected directly to a 12 volt power supply
@@mr3dp what's going on with the 12v on the graph image, the one which is created by the wire from the board and the heater, is that just meant to be connected or we have to connect something at that 12v section? And the green and black wire with the couple of wires which are yellow and black from the power supply, how did you get them there? Which connector did you cut?
Hi @mr3dprint, I have a question about the diode: when I connected like the way you did it, I can't get any read on my W1209. But opposite, if I connected reversed, I can see that termistor shows values different to the values I get with no diode. Do you know what happens here?
Hello, please send me a message on Instagram to investigate your problem
What modifications should be done to ender 3 for printing this filament.
I have not tested, I do not know, you have to test, you may need to change values
What is the function of the diode in series with the thermistor? As is, the W2109 comes with a thermistor without a diode
Check description
@@mr3dp i did, doesn't mention the function of the diode. So none the wiser
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Hi instead of using the old computer power supply, can I use the 12v 20A 240W power supply? And should I connect two wire like in 0:52 ?
yes
How match retract?
I managed to make the setup using my old ender 3 for spare parts, i tried to make the filament today with success but when i use the filament on my new 3d printer it doesnt have a grip, which means it doesnt extrude, maybe i need to increase the temperature a little bit from 210º and use larger plastic feed to make the filament more robust and get better grip.
The temperature required is 260 degrees but dont go over 230 without a full metal hotend
I'm going to use spare ender 3 8bit board
The printing temperature of pet bottles should not be less than 250
@@tristansimonin1376 @mr3dprint Thanks i will do that. : D
@@bocian0 If you don´t need it. You definitely should. ; )
how about mr3dprint ... Today I assemble the thermostat and configure it as it is in the video, but I notice that it overheats and never reaches 77. It varies too much between negative and positive number. check several times that the thermistor is okay, but everything is well connected. Do you have any idea where I may be failing?
Please make a video of it and send it to me on Instagram to see where the problem comes from
could you explain what was modified for w1209 understand that 275 grasu celsius is 87? I saw that it works but I don't understand why? is it because the thermistor is 100k instead of 10?
Yes, both because of the thermistor and because of the diode used, it shows the lower temperature, because we needed to use this circuit in a cheaper circuit.
Hi, why do you insert a diode between the thermistor and the controller board?
This board has a maximum temperature that shows 110 degrees. In order to be able to control the temperature of 200 degrees, we had to change the thermistor, and also when we add a diode, it shows less temperature. By doing this, we can control the temperature up to 300 degrees. Of course, the temperature shown on the board is not the real temperature and the temperature of 78 degrees shown on the board is 200 degrees.
@@mr3dp Ok! Thanks for your answer.
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Disculpa a donde conectas el motor es que en el video no se ve y es lo único que me falta pra terminar el proyecto, se muy poco sobre circuitos y no sé me hace fácil entender.
Debe estar conectado a 12 voltios.
hi in your video 4 Heat and motion control board you use
RAMPS 1.4 and Mega 2560 but in your later video
you use W1209 board ..? have you showed 2 control boards to
choose from or what confussing there thanks
No, this kit was chosen because many friends could not afford to buy an Arduino board, ramps and stepper motors, or did not have a computer to load the Arduino, etc.
@@mr3dp so i can follow the RAMPS 1.4 and Mega 2560 guide in series 4..as i have the parts and should get the same resaults
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conecto el heater directo a los 12V, pero se queda en 90º máximo, ¿por eso es necesario el W1209?
Estimado amigo, esta temperatura no es real, mire el video cuidadosamente, la temperatura que configuró debe ser de 78 a 80 grados, esta temperatura es en realidad de 200 a 220 grados y, de hecho, es de 90 grados, la temperatura real es de 300 grados.
gearbox motor is directly connected to 12v power? how did you control the spooling speeD?
Yes, the gearbox motor is connected to 12V power with the diodes you see, if the motor speed is too low, you can reduce the diodes.
@@mr3dp Thanks! This is great!
I will use a 12v Motor Controller so I can set the motor speed at will.
@@sjbox to which 12v power on the scheme he shown u connect the motor? To the one directly from the green board or the one which appears from wires
will an IN4007 diode work?
I can confirm it works
Does one motor with 60RPM work well? Cant find anywhere in aliexpress a motor with 12v 50rpm...
Yes, they are not very different, just for better speed you may need to use one more diode
Hello, I have a question
I have tried try to make the same stuff to make my own filament.
When I tried, my filament (the output of the nozzle) is not totally round. I have only half of a cylinder (like this ∪).
Dou you have the same thing ?
Do you think it will be an issue with this filament on the 3D printer ?
yes
Gd bless u
Thank you
Is the resulting filament solid or hollow?
Hollow
Is there a specific reason for the diode used in thermocouple? The thermistor I got in the kit only can take 110 C. I tried putting 10k potentiometer with it in series. Because at Around 7k ohm its about 24 to 26 C. But I burned out my thermistor.....
It is necessary to have all the parts in the video because this thermostat does not show more than 110 degrees. You have to change the thermistor and the diode was used because it shows less temperature.
This means that we can have a real temperature of 205 degrees at 78.5 degrees, which the thermostat shows
Will a in4007 work?
Maybe
what is the subtitude for POWER SUPPLY ATX-300-12E 300 Watt P4 ATX Power Supply
WHAT SPECIFICATIOM IS NEED FOR THE EXTRUDER
You need a 12-volt, 15-amp or 20-amp power supply
Hi, I'm following all the proces of the filament production step by step but in my case I get the filament hollow inside. It is correct? I tried to increase the temp of the hotend but without success. Can you give some advice? Thanks.
Hello dear friend, when the bottle is very thin, like water bottles, the filament becomes hollow, but this does not cause a problem during printing. You can adjust the diameter of the filament in the software instead of 1.75 less, for example 1.55 mm.
@@mr3dp Ok, perfect. Thanks for your answer.
@dandiane
pourriez-vous faire un schéma de branchement, car je ne comprend pas tout j'ai cru voir le branchement du moteur sur la broche de ( température sensor ) avec les 6 diodes 5408, alors que sur votre croquis sur cette broche c'est le thermistor 100k avec une diode 5408 et la sonde heater 12V 40 W est branchée sur le 12 V.
merci d'éclairer ma lanterne.
super travail j'espère pouvoir réussir votre projet mais il me manque des compétences notamment dans les branchements .
Connectez un moteur 12 volts avec six diodes (pour réduire la vitesse du moteur) à l'alimentation 12 volts que vous obtenez de l'alimentation de l'ordinateur (fils jaune et noir).
Connectez la thermistance 100k au thermostat avec une diode (selon le schéma enseigné dans la vidéo) La puissance du thermostat est de 12 volts, que vous connectez aux fils jaune et noir, d'autre part, le chauffage a besoin de 12 volts pour allumez, qui se connecte selon l'image, vous devez également connecter le cordon d'alimentation vert de l'ordinateur au fil noir pour allumer l'alimentation
@@mr3dp merci beaucoup pour votre réponse, je possède un moteur de 12 v de machine à écrire similaire au votre je ne connais pas son RPM mais je pense qu'il tourne vite puis-je utiliser un contrôleur de vitesse de moteur PWM
Vous pouvez tester la vitesse du moteur doit être élevée
@@mr3dp une autre question sur votre schéma : le thermistor 100k est branché sur la broche sensor il faut le brancher sur le 12 v fil jaune et noir et le sensor sur le 12v il faut le brancher sur la broche température sensor je me trompe ?
@@mr3dp après re visionnage de la vidéo j'arrive à mieux cerner les branchements, avec toutes mes excuses pour mes questions d'amateur, merci pour votre patience.
amicalement
I did exactly this but my w1209 got on fire , literally , my question is why is negative connected to the thermocouple and not the board ? maybe sending 12v extra to the board make it 24v , what do you think could happened ?
Please take a picture of your wiring and connections and send it to me on Instagram to see where your problem comes from.
what's the six diodes for? reducing voltage?
for sure. Seems like 12v was too fast for the nozzle (filament diameter got less that 1.75mm)
5 diodes to slow down the gearbox motor
would it be easy to use ramp board?
This method is cheaper than that
Hi sir , may i know what is the gcode for nozzle melt the plastic and simultaneously another stepper motor roll the melted filament
yes, No in this video, there is no G-code in this video
Hola! Yo no logró que suba la temperatura del hotend , cuál puede ser mi problema? Gracias!
Por favor, envíame una foto de tus conexiones en Instagram.
what's the speed the filament is being pulled?
the motor has 50 rpm, if you check last video the gears have a final ratio of 31.5 - 8motor with 36 teeth intermediary gear = 4.5 ratio , and 8 with 56 big wheel rim = 7 ratio, combined that is 31.5 ratio - so 50/31.5 = around 1.6 rotation per minute for the wheel with the filament.
20 to 22 cm per minute
how much current does this all draw
30min
No trabaja hasta mas de 205°C, le hice el cambio del diodo y no funciona igual no calienta lo suficiente en la board w1209 se desactiva el relay en 49.50
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Is the "Engine Connection" stl file supposed to have a hole in the middle for the motor?
yes
@@mr3dp re-downloaded it to see if it was a corrupted file. No hole in the middle.
Needing to change the indentation for a different motor, so adding the hole myself.
Just thought I'd let you know it isnt there in it's current state.
@@br0k3nilluzion Yes, you were right, the new file was replaced
@@br0k3nilluzion hey, can you share the STL files?
@@maxleague4809 he made it all cost $$ for the file now
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Diode 5406 Is useful?
Yes, definitely
@@mr3dp After 100k thermostat connection, the screen gives LLL warning. What is the reason?
@@ramazanaydemir3858 Change the diode wires
@@mr3dp diode is reverse connected :)
why are the diodes needed? if the power is 12 volts and the gearbox is 12 volts, then isn't it all good?
Diodes are for slowing down the gearbox motor
How much the temperature to produce filament because the w1209 temperature controller maximum temperature is 110c then how can it heat upto 180c can you solve the problem
Please watch the full video before asking any questions, full explanations are given
Can I use a 12v - 62 rpm DC motor?
yes
hola que tal, queria preguntarte si me servira este motor para armar el proyecto( Motor 370 Tipo 25 6v 133 Rpm Motoreductor Robotica Itytarg) gracias
perdon era este ( Motor Motoreductor Robot Fit0492-b 12v 100 Rpm Itytarg) , el que te mande anterior me di cuenta que era de 6volts
Hola querido amigo, este motor también es bueno, pero deberías reducir su velocidad de motor con más diodos o con un kit de reducción de velocidad.
I got a question, so my thermocouple keeps turning on and off at 28, what do i do?
Even my gets turned off at 28. Did you find any solution?
Ask your questions on Instagram, the link is on the bio page
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why are different versions of temperature control in this series? LIke in part 4 you connected heater and thermistor to ramps 1.4 and in this part you connected it to something different
Read the description of the video, this thermostat method is a cheaper method and it was my own invention for people who don't want to spend a lot of money to buy a 3D printer board.
Good afternoon. I can't find the right temperature for this plastic, please share a secret.
Hello dear friend, if you have paid attention to the videos, the appropriate temperature has been said, but I tell you again, the production temperature of filament is 205, the temperature of connecting filaments is 270, and the temperature of its 3D printing is 255 degrees Celsius.
@@mr3dp when printing at 255 degrees, the plastic refuses to come out of the nozzle and gets stuck, and if you raise the temperature higher, it starts to boil. maybe the matter is in the very manufacture of the thread, I do not understand.
Please take a video or a photo of your 3D printing problem and send it to me on Instagram to see what your problem is.