very informative about DSG gearbox and this video will shut those who said never buy a DSG car (Volks, etc). Most of them failed to drive a DSG properly.
Very good simple explanation on how gearbox works. Wish there was such TH-cam video many many years ago when I was faced with AT gearbox issues (not a VW but a different European brand using the AL4 autogearbox). The AT gear oil getting too hot and going into "safe" mode, which will not change gear anymore, until it cool down. (Later, adding an external gear oil cooler solved that problem). So, just to add a little comment: 1) Always use the car manufacturer recommended AT gear oil. 2) As for the earlier VW gear issue, which was quite widespread, even in China (I search the Internet a long time to find that out). After some time, VW managed to find out and announced that in certain hot weather places, the synthetic gear oil used that time, somehow affected the sensor (sort of melting out some rubber/plastic stuff), resulting in unable to monitor the oil temp & causing the gear box getting too hot and jammed. Simple solution, they use a different gear oil (mineral) and recalled their cars to check/replace the gear oil and the sensor. After that, I had 2 VWs, for 10 & 7 yrs, without any gear issues. I sold the 10yr Cross Touran to go for the new Tiguan Allspace. Yes Sir, Uncle YS, we all love VW, don't we? Cheers.
Lovely comment, thank you - it makes us feel good that we are helpful to some people at least. I am always happy to share my knowledge, whatever little I have, if it helps to make this world a bit better of a place. Your comment also spurs me on to continue, as long as skmeone appreciates it.
I like this video much on the explain, and especially the main point “ now is 2020”. There’s many Malaysian are still have a mind that at 10years way back to comment on something they actually dun experience with. Maybe Mr Khong can share some talk about other unfavourites brand car like PSA Peugeot and Citroen that kind in future.
Best explanation of DSG gearbox so far. On a separate note, i do agree on the low speed of DSG. It is clunky and almost frustrating to use in traffic. However, when at speed, it just come to its own.
that's why people say, bad reputation is hard to remove, and it stays. Like Proton and its power window, still got people saying Proton power window not good. Perodua MyVi gotten ANCAP 5 stars, but people still feel riding with Perodua is like sitting in Milo tin. Takes a long time to restore confidence. Thanks for sharing.
I'm VW fan here as well..since 2012 own polo, cross touran and passat b8 all tsi+dsg..Conventional transmission never excites me..especially those CVTs
I have been hesitating to get a used mk6 gti for quite a while due to too many overseas users complaining about the DSG. Now after i hear from a local pro Malaysian driver review, I think i might not hesitate anymore to get one. TQ Mr Khong.
Splendid video and provide good explanation and experience sharing about the myth of VW Malaysia DSG issues. Hopefully, there will be a follow up video telling viewers how to spot for a faulty unit if they are buying used VW cars with DSG.
First time I drove a car with DSG, I had the same 'woah' feeling. Was a Sharan TDI MPV so nothing exciting but I was loving the DSG. I have a car with DSG now and I brilliant except in certain situations where it's kinda laggy, like slow roundabout approach etc. Newer TC auto boxes are very close to feel as DCTs now but I just feel something is not the same, like there is some slip still although they all lock up the same as a DCT. Maybe just subjectively in my mind, not sure or its the slip during gear changes. Just feels less direct. DCT, in my case DSG just feels like a super duper fast manual transmission.
@@rishadhossain8262 you can also use the auto hold function where you can press the brakes then release and it'll automatically use the parking brake to hold car. (Lever still in D). When you press the accelerator, it'll set off by automatically releasing the parking brake.
@@rishadhossain8262 I never use it. Always disable. It doesn't save a lot of fuel, not enough to compensate for wearing out battery faster. It is also annoying when it cuts out engine for really shirt stops like at a roundabout. I do occasionally use ECO mode where the car coasts in neutral.
I love the DSG coz it provides the seamless gear change experience that other gearboxes can't give. The feeling is that the car never seem to loose any of the build up power during the gear changes. Love it! 😎👍
Our home has 2 vw's... Another tip I would like to add on using dsg well is to ensure the handbrake takes the load of the car instead of the gearbox P mode regardless if you are on an incline or not. To accomplish this, as you come to a complete stop with legs on the brake change gear selection to N, pull handbrake, lift off brake pedal, press brake pedal again and put to P.
You can just leave it in D, but put your foot firmly on the foot brake. This keeps the clutches disengaged. And later when you want to resume, it will be smoother.
@@YSKhongDriving I mean before total stop/ parking mode. Because if you don't do this... the transmission will have a very loud klonk sound when it starts again esp if it's reversing out of driveway...
What you're referring to is probably some free play in the box. I had this happen intermittently in another brand of car I have, from day one. Not in any of the 4 VW we have. All the more reason I believe you should leave it in D, but press firmly on the brakes, as this will disengage the clutch; putting it in N does the same thing, but it just means going a few extra steps every time you come to a stop.
@@YSKhongDriving ahh ic... Will try out what you mentioned... Been doing the method i mentioned once i found out about it because if there's a klonk sound the car feels like there's excess vibration for a while and that scares me...
I use the neutral gear first then handbrake method as well. But I think it's more for leaving the weight of the car on the handbrake rather than the parking pawl.
thank you sir for the info. and stay healthy. btw, is there any rx7 owner out there that would be happy to let Mr Khong go for a spin in their car? because that would be awesome.
Cool video :) I have a Golf mk5 gti DSG awesome car. The way you explain how DSG works in comparison wth AT was very good. Even with the funny drawings. Thankyou!
Summary, in jam let front car move off some distance before stepping lightly on accelerator. By not following too fast or close, we avoid frequent braking or frequent switch between accelerator/braking which involve constant gear engagement and disengagement. Other sources said changing to manual or sports mode during jam also help to hold the gear longer to reduce wear. Cheers.
For DSG gearbox it is highly not recommend to inch forward in traffic for long time to avoid staying in half clutch. For those who may concern what is the cost of changing clutch pack of DSG, VW Malaysia quoted about RM 4k while external workshop using genuine part cost nearly half RM 2k. Dual clutch machenism design will somehow damaging clutch but very little. DSG (best referring to wet type) was designed to last long or probably till we sold the car after 7 or 9 years time without need of changing clutch pad. What Uncle YS Khong sharing is to even prolong the life of dual clutch. Dual clutch got problem on clutch it can always change a new one in less cost but if automotic gearbox got problem it will cost even more and most likely replaced with used part.You can always check out with the gearbox repair specialist.
DSG is only good for sports car since it has less transmission losses. However, the good old slushbox auto is catching up fast in terms of efficiency and shift speed . ZF's 8 speed auto gearbox model ZF8HP sold 3.5 million units in year 2017. For Honda , the reason why DSG works is because there is no need to slip the clutch in very slow traffic, it is mated to a hybrid powertrain. The electric motor creeps forward in slow traffic, bypassing the need to slip the clutch to avoid engine stalling. The same goes for Hyundai Ioniq. That is why their dry clutch system works. Auto transmissions are not rated based on horsepower, it is rated on max torque application. It is too much torque from the engine that kills weak transmission.
Very good lesson uncle 😎 And don't forget the revmatching/autoblipping in manual mode when you downshift 😍, so addicting especially when you have the catless downpipe 😅 it's sounds like you drove a GT3RS hahaha
Sir, how do you cope up in a down hill with a dct transmission? Also when you mean decelerating to lift off and let car decelerate on its own? Or use breaks at all times when decelerating, got confused since there is always stress between brakes and clutch. Also in a traffic when you keep a distance and move is it okay to just roll over without stepping foot on acceleration? TIA for your guidance on this
Great tutorial Uncle YS. I will try to better take care of my Gen 7 Golf GTI from now and hope it is not too late. I like the Karmann Ghia best from your collection! It would be cool to get to see the real car one day....
Thank you YS. Great knowledge. I have one question. I have the habit of changing the gear from D to S especially when I'm overtaking in the highway. Then back from S to D once im done overtaking. Will this damage the gear?
No it wont: in fact it gives you more power to overtake safely. Fuel consumption suffers a bit though, but in trunk roads it cuts down overtaking time, which is safer.
hi sir , im planing to buy a volkswagen passat B7 1.8L tsi second-hand for ard 40k myr . Do you have any adivice and tips on checking the car and lookout for in testing the car .... Pls guide me...
@@YSKhongDriving even for traffic like at the custom where if you leave a gap there’s a chance someone will just cut in from the side it’s still better to keep it in auto?
Hi uncle! Thumbs up on the DSG explanation video! How about a video detailing the various real-life maintenance costs for the upkeep of a DSG gearbox/ VW cars in general? Since you've got quite a few VWs there, there's no one more qualified to give us these insights!
Hi. Really enjoyed your video. Do you have any other tips for going up the genting road and also coming down, without using manual and paddle shifter. I am driving a 2019 1.0 VW polo. Thank you.
If you don't then the gearbox thinks you want to go up to 5, and when you shift down, it will get confused, and will take a longer time. If you want to shift down, it is usually under braking, say for a corner, and that would be okay. If you need to shift down for overtaking, just lift off momentarily, shift down, and go.
Just switched from automatic transmission Toyota to a DSG Tiguan 2021. Confused about DSG and inching forward in traffic jams. When i am stopped in traffic jams, my foot is on the brake. When the car in front if me moves, should i be A) Lifting off my foot fully from the brake, letting the car move forward by itself? And then braking again when i'm close to the car in front. Or B) Lifting off my foot fully from brake and then stepping lightly on the accelerator to move car forward, then braking when i'm close to the car in front. I'm used to driving style A having come from an AT toyota.
Nice. Always wanted to get a MK5 Polo GTi. How has the twin charged engine been Uncle Khong? Any major issues? and what to especially look out for given that its a more sophisticated engine to the other 1.4 engines. Would love to hear your experience!
Hi Uncle YS, is there noticeable improvements in the DQ381 vs the DQ250 in terms of immediate take off from standstill, low speed creep, smoothness in gear shifts (up and down), any jerks in traffic driving, etc?
Hello Mr. Khong. Great video. Just wondering if it's okay during start stop heavy traffic I changed to manual mode? Like I manually change to 1st gear when it moves a little then when it stops I manually change to Neutral.
My oldest BW is 12 years old, but it only has 90k km on it. Should be okay, but get it checked by a good mechanic first. Do a test drive and see if it feels good. I think 120k should be okay - that is about 5 to 6 years normal usage so should be good.
Uncle YS. Say i am crusing on the highway at a comfortable speed then i wish to attain better FC and i release my accelerator for it to cruise along under speed drops and i tap accelerator again and repeat this. Is this ok for the dsg gearbox? Thanks..
Some of the newer DSGs have a 'Coasting' function that disengages the transmission and saves fuel when you lift off. Lifting off to save fuel works better if you have a reasonable downhill gradient, or else your speed drop may be too quick. Most car systems now cut off the fuel when you lift off, esp on eco settings. If road is flat, it is better to just ise a light throttle to maintain a speed. If you want to do lift off on level ground, keep the variance to about 10 kmh or else it would be very irritating to others, including other cars sharing the lane and also your passengers..
Hi uncle, does a 1.2 Tsi Polo DSG , dry clutch, is there oil that needs to be changed? If not, what kind of preventive maintenance can be done for the gear box? Thanks In advance for your knowledge and explanation on the video too
There is oil in the DSG, but not for the clutch pack. There is no maintenance for the clutch by the owner. Please follow what we say in our video on the usage. I have a 10 year old Golf TSi running the dry clutch, and it is still as good as new.
VW DSG (in the Tiguan MK2) is great for fast and sporty driving but not so good when crawling in a traffic jam. Can be rather jerky and unpleasant in such situations.
But my issue is when you're pulling out of a slope from parking mode. It doesn't give you auto hill descent or ascent control. As you move your foot from the brake to the accelerator, it creeps forward/backwards depending on the slope and that it very scary. So you have to continuously use auto brake switch.
Uncle, since you have experiences in many VW cars before, do you mind sharing on average lifespan of the VW wet and dry clutches? I noticed most owners with dry clutches DSG gave their feedback of pre-mature wear at around 2 to 3 years. I owned a Passat B8 HL with 6-speed DSG with wet clutches, and I do almost 90% of KL city drive with traffic jam. My car is creeping in traffic jam most of the time, and I wonder how long my DSG clutches will last? Thank you.
Is it correct if traffic is crawling at ~10kmh, I'll just keep one car distance with the car in front and lightly tap throttle to keep up and only press the brake when traffic stops? Is the clutch fully engaged at 10kmh and not slipping? Thanks
Correct. Clutch engagement or disengagement is determined by the first few mm of play in the brake pedal - your foot tells the car system what is your intention.
Mr Khong, I just bought myself a proton x70, it's transmission happens to be a DCT wet clutch type. You mentioned in your narration that in the event of the car in a traffic jam, one mustn't inch the car along with the slow moving vehicles in front, and doing so would shorten the life of the clutches. However, there are times approaching traffic lights juction, I would be forced to slow down the car by light stepping the brake pedal over a distance until it comes to a complete stop. Would you also call this inching the car along? And will this be bad for the clutches? Any other way of doing this better?
Hi Uncle Khong, can you help me understand why did the 6 speed DSG dropped gears from 3rd to 2nd with roughness? Is there a way to minimise this by driving habbits or is it time to get a new clutch?
Can you explain exactly what you mean? Is it you are dropping gear with the paddle shift or is it going down by itself. Are you in D or in M mode, what speed, when does it happen, when does it not. It is not clear to me from your description, so I need as much information as possible. Were you braking or accelerating? And exactly what do you mean by roughness.
Hi Vincent, drive it slowly in D. If it bites quickly and solidly, it is ok. If it vibrates a little, it may mean clutch is weak. Usually the gearbox is ok, only the clutch. Clutch is replaceable, around rm3.5k. My R is 6 years old going into 7th year, still very good, no problem. My TSi is 11 years old, clutch replaced in year 3 under warranty, still good, no problem.
Hi uncle. I heard from someone to avoid damaging the dq200 dsg ( dry clutch ) when in a jam is to manually put the gear at Gear 1 and roll it when in jam. Instead of putting it in D and let it stall or roll with the jam. Is it?
Not true. The idea is to minimise the rolling in a jam. Please watch our video on how to use the DSG. Cos I don't want to write down in words what I said in the video.
Hi Mr Khong, I am a fan of your genting drive videos and back in around 2010 I drove my friend's Golf GTI for about a month and yes DSG is fantastic but after a few years the GTI gave him lots of problems from engine to gearbox. So till today I still advoid buying DCT cars. I agree with your video that the clutch works like a manual and we all know manual clutches will wear and need replacement so isnt it the same for DCT clutches? Wouldn't it need replacement? Clutch replacement for DCT is a more complex and expensive procedure. As mentioned in your video, the dry DSG have overheating prob on bigger or higher performance car so wet DSG is used. From what I understand, wet DSG have the issues of clutch dust/flakes from wear being circulated in the transmission oil and logically that is not a good thing. Let me know if I am wrong cos if DCT have solved these issues then I will gladly get a DCT car next!
Some people confuse maintenance with repair. Yes, clutches need replacement: so if a clutch needs replacement, it is not a problem. Even jet engines need to be overhauled, so does that mean it is problematic? Automatics also have bands and clutches internally and they wear out. Then the gearbox just slips a lot more or it just dies. While they are slipping, most people don't even realise it, and think it's the engine. Anything that moves needs to be maintained. I have a 10 year old TSi with a dry clutch : it is still as good as new. I also have a 5 yr old Golf R with a wet clutch. It is still going strong. As for the transmission fluid, just change it every 30 k km. It's the same with engine oil - metal particles from wear and tear, carbon from the fuel, adulteration from unburnt petrol, and even overnight condensation pollute the oil: that is why you change; it is maintenance, not a problem.
Strongly argee with Uncle YS. Many people confuse the repair and maintenance. People thinking of replace of clutch is considered major repair but in fact it is a minor replacement job (but need skill worker to complete). And the cost of clutch replacement in VW Malaysia SC is quoted RM 4k and external workshop quoted using genuine part from Germany is half price. After replace of new clutch the transmission feel like relived. But again many VW users especially wet clutch did not replace clutch even after 7 years of usage. I personally do change of transmission fluid in every 30k km to maintain it best performance and protection. Whereas for AT it is more reliable however when problem arise it always need major repair. And in many cases the gearbox can't be repaired the owner will need to buy a used or recond unit without guarantee of problem free and lifespan. Why not buying a new on? A new one cost tens of thousands. I got a friend who operate a gearbox repair specialist shop in Kelana Jaya.
Hi Uncle Khong, what do you think of the Golf R mk7? I am considering to get a used unit but very concern on the reliability of a VW brand. I've used to owned a 2010 Polo 1.2 tsi and that car has given me lots of problem after driving it for about 3 months. If I am not mistaken the service advisor at that time mentioned its due to some mechatronic / gearbox issue which causes the car engine to shutdown once it goes above 40kmh. They had even did the necessary replacement and the problem still persist. Since then the car has been in and out of the workshop once every 2-3 months. Sold the car not too long after. I believe more and more customers are experiencing a similar / other issues to a point that there is a dedicated Facebook community to share their DSG defects haha.. Nevertheless, I would like to once again revisit this brand as I heard many good reviews on the Golf R. This is also the only performance car which fits my criteria and budget. Hope to hear some of your inputs. Thanks in advance!
As long as your foot is firmly on the brakes, it is just as good. But if you are in the Butterworth area with the 15 minute traffic lights you can even go down for a coffee and come back ( just joking(.
Hi Uncle Kong, is a used V Touran still worth to own now? What about the rest of the used V model which is worth owning with a low maintenance. Please suggest a few used model for an every day driving. Scirocco?
A Touran and Scirocco are at two extremes. Hard for me to advise if your options are so diverse. Those cars with the 1.4 engine would be quite cheap to maintain. Consider the Polo or Vento TSi. Great car.
The Jetta, Cross Touran and the 1.4 Scirocco basically have the same drive train as the Golf TSi. I have the MK6 Golf TSi with the same drive train, still running fine after 10 years.
Hello uncle, could you please enable community translation for your videos (closed captions)? I would like to translate your video so I can show it to my dad, since he doesn't speak English that well. And I'm sure that I'm not the only one in this situation, and this way your knowledge could reach more people. Have a great day!
Thank you Uncle.. Such an helpful video. And we all want to see you collect all VW models in 1:18 scale😁 A huge respect to you from Bangladesh🇧🇩 👍 And uncle one question is it ok if we always use auto hold option in DSG gearbox?
Hi uncle I m fateh from India can u please tell me that here in Delhi(India) would the dsg-dq200 be successful in bumper to bumper traffic and in heat as I m going to purchase Volkswagen t roc 1.5 TSI please suggest
Will just on(actually it will be on one either P,R,N or D,)..when I shift the gear,the whole car will jerk..I need to on and off the engine few times before I the car soo jerking,can u pls assist me with the problem,tqvm.
Hi uncle ys, thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have a question, how much hp and torque the 7speed dry clutch able to handle? Those people tuning for stage 2. Does it make the gearbox caput because higher hp and torque? Thank you for reading my question.
Not quite sure, as each maker has their own specs. I heard it can take up to 300Nm, but cannot verify it. I fail to understand why people would spend so much to do the 1.4 engine up to Stage whatever, when the GTI is right there.
I always went into neutral at the traffic light from a fear of someone hitting me from behind and damaging my transmission while in drive. Now I know not to do that
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very informative about DSG gearbox and this video will shut those who said never buy a DSG car (Volks, etc). Most of them failed to drive a DSG properly.
Very good simple explanation on how gearbox works. Wish there was such TH-cam video many many years ago when I was faced with AT gearbox issues (not a VW but a different European brand using the AL4 autogearbox). The AT gear oil getting too hot and going into "safe" mode, which will not change gear anymore, until it cool down. (Later, adding an external gear oil cooler solved that problem). So, just to add a little comment: 1) Always use the car manufacturer recommended AT gear oil. 2) As for the earlier VW gear issue, which was quite widespread, even in China (I search the Internet a long time to find that out). After some time, VW managed to find out and announced that in certain hot weather places, the synthetic gear oil used that time, somehow affected the sensor (sort of melting out some rubber/plastic stuff), resulting in unable to monitor the oil temp & causing the gear box getting too hot and jammed. Simple solution, they use a different gear oil (mineral) and recalled their cars to check/replace the gear oil and the sensor. After that, I had 2 VWs, for 10 & 7 yrs, without any gear issues. I sold the 10yr Cross Touran to go for the new Tiguan Allspace. Yes Sir, Uncle YS, we all love VW, don't we? Cheers.
Lovely comment, thank you - it makes us feel good that we are helpful to some people at least.
I am always happy to share my knowledge, whatever little I have, if it helps to make this world a bit better of a place.
Your comment also spurs me on to continue, as long as skmeone appreciates it.
@@YSKhongDriving Absolutely well said. Keep up the good work & have fun. Cheers
Thank you Uncle YS sharing the DSG mechanism, characteristic and the right method of driving dual clutch gearbox.
I like this video much on the explain, and especially the main point “ now is 2020”. There’s many Malaysian are still have a mind that at 10years way back to comment on something they actually dun experience with.
Maybe Mr Khong can share some talk about other unfavourites brand car like PSA Peugeot and Citroen that kind in future.
No one can explain about DSG better than this.. thanks once again.. highly appreciated
My pleasure
Best explanation of DSG gearbox so far.
On a separate note, i do agree on the low speed of DSG. It is clunky and almost frustrating to use in traffic. However, when at speed, it just come to its own.
Amazing, 8 years with DSG from Polo GTI to the Beetle. Wonderful memories
How reliable in general is the polo gti?
@@alansmilealot only reliable when u take care of it
Great stuff, Malaysian engineering explained.
Despite the durability issue, I am still grateful that VW designed and built such gearbox for me to enjoy every driving experience
that's why people say, bad reputation is hard to remove, and it stays. Like Proton and its power window, still got people saying Proton power window not good. Perodua MyVi gotten ANCAP 5 stars, but people still feel riding with Perodua is like sitting in Milo tin. Takes a long time to restore confidence. Thanks for sharing.
Absolutely!
I'm VW fan here as well..since 2012 own polo, cross touran and passat b8 all tsi+dsg..Conventional transmission never excites me..especially those CVTs
Any major problem with 1.4tsi and dsg cross touran? Intereted with cross tauran..used now very affordable.
Such a perfect video with perfect explanations. Thank you so much for this!
You are most welcome!
A few days ago I thought of requesting you to talk something about DSG lol. Now here it is.
I have been hesitating to get a used mk6 gti for quite a while due to too many overseas users complaining about the DSG. Now after i hear from a local pro Malaysian driver review, I think i might not hesitate anymore to get one. TQ Mr Khong.
VW B8 Passat owner here! ✌️
Thanks YS for the brief explanation on how a DSG gearbox works in layman's terms.
Good to see you again though not in person.
Very good technology. But I also didn’t expect AT has breakthrough too... since the ZF gearbox from f30, you know the performance...
Yup...but still not as fast shifting as dsg.
Splendid video and provide good explanation and experience sharing about the myth of VW Malaysia DSG issues. Hopefully, there will be a follow up video telling viewers how to spot for a faulty unit if they are buying used VW cars with DSG.
If it is faulty- it just does not go. Nothing much to show, hahaha. 30 second videos aren't going to make it into the hall of fame.
Give me 5 uncle YS! I just wrote an article yesterday, and also shot a vlog for this too!
Five!
First time I drove a car with DSG, I had the same 'woah' feeling. Was a Sharan TDI MPV so nothing exciting but I was loving the DSG.
I have a car with DSG now and I brilliant except in certain situations where it's kinda laggy, like slow roundabout approach etc.
Newer TC auto boxes are very close to feel as DCTs now but I just feel something is not the same, like there is some slip still although they all lock up the same as a DCT. Maybe just subjectively in my mind, not sure or its the slip during gear changes. Just feels less direct.
DCT, in my case DSG just feels like a super duper fast manual transmission.
Hi, I want to ask. What is the best way to do on a traffic-congested road while driving a DSG car?
@@rishadhossain8262 don't creep too much. Just either release the brake fully or depress fully. That'll save a bit of clutch wear.
@@rishadhossain8262 you can also use the auto hold function where you can press the brakes then release and it'll automatically use the parking brake to hold car. (Lever still in D). When you press the accelerator, it'll set off by automatically releasing the parking brake.
@@TsLeng Sounds right, thanks for the advice! By the way would you recommend keeping the stop start system on? Why yes and why not. (VW)
@@rishadhossain8262 I never use it. Always disable. It doesn't save a lot of fuel, not enough to compensate for wearing out battery faster. It is also annoying when it cuts out engine for really shirt stops like at a roundabout.
I do occasionally use ECO mode where the car coasts in neutral.
I love the DSG coz it provides the seamless gear change experience that other gearboxes can't give. The feeling is that the car never seem to loose any of the build up power during the gear changes. Love it! 😎👍
Hi uncle Khong I'm driving elentra also DCT & today I've learnd more abt DCT. Thank You
U r most welcome.
Excellent breakdown. I have a tdi that is about due for service
Our home has 2 vw's... Another tip I would like to add on using dsg well is to ensure the handbrake takes the load of the car instead of the gearbox P mode regardless if you are on an incline or not. To accomplish this, as you come to a complete stop with legs on the brake change gear selection to N, pull handbrake, lift off brake pedal, press brake pedal again and put to P.
You can just leave it in D, but put your foot firmly on the foot brake. This keeps the clutches disengaged. And later when you want to resume, it will be smoother.
@@YSKhongDriving I mean before total stop/ parking mode. Because if you don't do this... the transmission will have a very loud klonk sound when it starts again esp if it's reversing out of driveway...
What you're referring to is probably some free play in the box. I had this happen intermittently in another brand of car I have, from day one. Not in any of the 4 VW we have.
All the more reason I believe you should leave it in D, but press firmly on the brakes, as this will disengage the clutch; putting it in N does the same thing, but it just means going a few extra steps every time you come to a stop.
@@YSKhongDriving ahh ic... Will try out what you mentioned... Been doing the method i mentioned once i found out about it because if there's a klonk sound the car feels like there's excess vibration for a while and that scares me...
I use the neutral gear first then handbrake method as well. But I think it's more for leaving the weight of the car on the handbrake rather than the parking pawl.
Do a video on suspension about multi link and double wish benefits and disadvantages
thank you sir for the info. and stay healthy. btw, is there any rx7 owner out there that would be happy to let Mr Khong go for a spin in their car? because that would be awesome.
Cool video :) I have a Golf mk5 gti DSG awesome car. The way you explain how DSG works in comparison wth AT was very good. Even with the funny drawings. Thankyou!
Summary, in jam let front car move off some distance before stepping lightly on accelerator. By not following too fast or close, we avoid frequent braking or frequent switch between accelerator/braking which involve constant gear engagement and disengagement.
Other sources said changing to manual or sports mode during jam also help to hold the gear longer to reduce wear. Cheers.
Thanks for your contribution.
For DSG gearbox it is highly not recommend to inch forward in traffic for long time to avoid staying in half clutch. For those who may concern what is the cost of changing clutch pack of DSG, VW Malaysia quoted about RM 4k while external workshop using genuine part cost nearly half RM 2k.
Dual clutch machenism design will somehow damaging clutch but very little. DSG (best referring to wet type) was designed to last long or probably till we sold the car after 7 or 9 years time without need of changing clutch pad. What Uncle YS Khong sharing is to even prolong the life of dual clutch. Dual clutch got problem on clutch it can always change a new one in less cost but if automotic gearbox got problem it will cost even more and most likely replaced with used part.You can always check out with the gearbox repair specialist.
DSG is only good for sports car since it has less transmission losses. However, the good old slushbox auto is catching up fast in terms of efficiency and shift speed . ZF's 8 speed auto gearbox model ZF8HP sold 3.5 million units in year 2017. For Honda , the reason why DSG works is because there is no need to slip the clutch in very slow traffic, it is mated to a hybrid powertrain. The electric motor creeps forward in slow traffic, bypassing the need to slip the clutch to avoid engine stalling. The same goes for Hyundai Ioniq. That is why their dry clutch system works.
Auto transmissions are not rated based on horsepower, it is rated on max torque application. It is too much torque from the engine that kills weak transmission.
Good input. Thank you. Yes, the new boxes are getting quite good.
Very good lesson uncle 😎
And don't forget the revmatching/autoblipping in manual mode when you downshift 😍, so addicting especially when you have the catless downpipe 😅 it's sounds like you drove a GT3RS hahaha
Sir, I learned a lot from you today. Thank you!
Thank you uncle. But I still worry to drive in the heavy traffic with DSG :D
Sir, how do you cope up in a down hill with a dct transmission? Also when you mean decelerating to lift off and let car decelerate on its own? Or use breaks at all times when decelerating, got confused since there is always stress between brakes and clutch. Also in a traffic when you keep a distance and move is it okay to just roll over without stepping foot on acceleration? TIA for your guidance on this
Treat it like any transmission as long as you are moving. Don't worry about it t9o much. Only heed what I say in the video under those circumstances
Great tutorial Uncle YS. I will try to better take care of my Gen 7 Golf GTI from now and hope it is not too late. I like the Karmann Ghia best from your collection! It would be cool to get to see the real car one day....
My friend has one, but I cannot afford it.
YS Khong Driving It’s one of those dream cars 😄
good suggestion for driving DSG 👍🏻
Thanks Uncle Khong for sharing before i get 1 VW SRC
300% agree with you Uncle. VW cars are great !!!
Thank you YS. Great knowledge. I have one question. I have the habit of changing the gear from D to S especially when I'm overtaking in the highway. Then back from S to D once im done overtaking. Will this damage the gear?
No it wont: in fact it gives you more power to overtake safely. Fuel consumption suffers a bit though, but in trunk roads it cuts down overtaking time, which is safer.
hi sir , im planing to buy a volkswagen passat B7 1.8L tsi second-hand for ard 40k myr . Do you have any adivice and tips on checking the car and lookout for in testing the car .... Pls guide me...
You have to check any used car for mechanical issues and also if it has had accidents before, and also if the mileage is high, or real.
Great video Mr Khong ! In a heavy traffic would it be better to engage manual ?
Keep it in auto, and if you have auto hold, use it.
@@YSKhongDriving even for traffic like at the custom where if you leave a gap there’s a chance someone will just cut in from the side it’s still better to keep it in auto?
I refer DSG SOP 5.0 for how to properly use DSG
How ab those DSG with coast function? Wouldn’t it keep the clutches engagement even busier? 😧
No, it disengages the gears
Hard to be economical once you have tasted the shifting speed. Will get addicted on pressing the pedal. 😂
Hahaha. You live your life as you like it.
Uncle jalan g genting kurang kereta musim covid ni.... buat la drift challenge sambil bawak taufu faa naik sampai firstworld hotel.. 😅😅
Hi uncle! Thumbs up on the DSG explanation video!
How about a video detailing the various real-life maintenance costs for the upkeep of a DSG gearbox/ VW cars in general? Since you've got quite a few VWs there, there's no one more qualified to give us these insights!
I really have no idea because so far I have spent nothing on the DSGs for the 4 cars.
@@YSKhongDriving whoah!
Changing fluid is the key to prolong the life.
Thanks for the input! Good share!
Beautiful - Very well explained.
Just bought VW JETTA and was worried about DSG Gearbox. Hope it should be all right.
Performance- Top-Notch. Beautiful to drive…..
Very nice instruction video,thanks for the information
Hi. Really enjoyed your video. Do you have any other tips for going up the genting road and also coming down, without using manual and paddle shifter. I am driving a 2019 1.0 VW polo. Thank you.
Sure, just drive it like any other automatic car.
Thank you, great work.
Good video, very informative and can learnt new knowledge!
Glad it was helpful!
Can you also do a similar video for CVT? And lastly your take on conventional slushbox automatic transmission vs DCT vs CVT.
I'm also made to understand that Nissan, Subaru and Toyota are using different CVT tech. Is that true?
Not too sure about that. Will need to do some research.
Uncle for downshifting from gear 4 to gear 3 must I remove my foot from accelerator if I wanna accelerate to gain power....
If you don't then the gearbox thinks you want to go up to 5, and when you shift down, it will get confused, and will take a longer time. If you want to shift down, it is usually under braking, say for a corner, and that would be okay. If you need to shift down for overtaking, just lift off momentarily, shift down, and go.
very nice informative video! can uncle talk abt how to tk care tourqe converter gearbox?
thank you i think i learned something new
Just switched from automatic transmission Toyota to a DSG Tiguan 2021.
Confused about DSG and inching forward in traffic jams. When i am stopped in traffic jams, my foot is on the brake. When the car in front if me moves, should i be
A) Lifting off my foot fully from the brake, letting the car move forward by itself? And then braking again when i'm close to the car in front.
Or B) Lifting off my foot fully from brake and then stepping lightly on the accelerator to move car forward, then braking when i'm close to the car in front.
I'm used to driving style A having come from an AT toyota.
B is what you need to do. If you have autohold, use that. It helps. Then it would be B.
Nice. Always wanted to get a MK5 Polo GTi. How has the twin charged engine been Uncle Khong? Any major issues? and what to especially look out for given that its a more sophisticated engine to the other 1.4 engines. Would love to hear your experience!
I have 3 cars with the twin charged 1.4 engine. One is in the Polo GTi. So far no issues.
@@YSKhongDriving OK Thanks!
Hi Uncle YS, is there noticeable improvements in the DQ381 vs the DQ250 in terms of immediate take off from standstill, low speed creep, smoothness in gear shifts (up and down), any jerks in traffic driving, etc?
Transmission development is always ongoing, and the newer boxes are always better.
@@YSKhongDriving Thanks, definitely make sense, but was hoping you can share more based on your vast experience in driving various DSGs. :)
Hello Mr. Khong. Great video. Just wondering if it's okay during start stop heavy traffic I changed to manual mode? Like I manually change to 1st gear when it moves a little then when it stops I manually change to Neutral.
Same effect is achieved by stepping on brake pedal firmly when stopped. That disengaged the gear too.
Hi Uncle YS, so is it ok to drop gear by using engine braking when going downhill in my VW?
Btw first time user of a VW
Yes it is okay to drop gear.
Uncle Khong, just asking out of curiosity. Would it be better if we use manual shift mode during traffic jam?
Manual or auto, it is the same. Try not to do inching forward.
@@YSKhongDrivingis it only in DCT? how bout in AT, should we try not to do inching forward too?
@@YSKhongDriving what is inching forward ?
What about long term reliability? I'm thinking of buying a Volkswagen transport with 4matic and DSG transmission it has 120.000 kilometers
My oldest BW is 12 years old, but it only has 90k km on it. Should be okay, but get it checked by a good mechanic first. Do a test drive and see if it feels good. I think 120k should be okay - that is about 5 to 6 years normal usage so should be good.
Uncle YS. Say i am crusing on the highway at a comfortable speed then i wish to attain better FC and i release my accelerator for it to cruise along under speed drops and i tap accelerator again and repeat this. Is this ok for the dsg gearbox? Thanks..
Some of the newer DSGs have a 'Coasting' function that disengages the transmission and saves fuel when you lift off.
Lifting off to save fuel works better if you have a reasonable downhill gradient, or else your speed drop may be too quick. Most car systems now cut off the fuel when you lift off, esp on eco settings.
If road is flat, it is better to just ise a light throttle to maintain a speed. If you want to do lift off on level ground, keep the variance to about 10 kmh or else it would be very irritating to others, including other cars sharing the lane and also your passengers..
Hi uncle, does a 1.2 Tsi Polo DSG , dry clutch, is there oil that needs to be changed? If not, what kind of preventive maintenance can be done for the gear box? Thanks In advance for your knowledge and explanation on the video too
There is oil in the DSG, but not for the clutch pack. There is no maintenance for the clutch by the owner. Please follow what we say in our video on the usage. I have a 10 year old Golf TSi running the dry clutch, and it is still as good as new.
@@YSKhongDriving Thanks a lot Uncle! The guide in there is really useful for DSG users like me!
uncle YS, im new to dsg, does it have strong engine braking when we downshift? does dsg has auto blipper technology equip? thx
There is no engine braking from DSG, that is why brakes have to be bigger. Auto blip is a feature added in, not restricted to DSG.
VW DSG (in the Tiguan MK2) is great for fast and sporty driving but not so good when crawling in a traffic jam. Can be rather jerky and unpleasant in such situations.
yeah i feel ya .. sport mode for that i guess
But my issue is when you're pulling out of a slope from parking mode. It doesn't give you auto hill descent or ascent control. As you move your foot from the brake to the accelerator, it creeps forward/backwards depending on the slope and that it very scary. So you have to continuously use auto brake switch.
Depending on the year model, some of them have Hill Start Assist that stops the car from rolling backack for about 1.5 to 2 seconds.
@@YSKhongDriving I have a 2021 Touareg 2021 R-Line. Should that have this feature? How do I check?
Uncle, since you have experiences in many VW cars before, do you mind sharing on average lifespan of the VW wet and dry clutches? I noticed most owners with dry clutches DSG gave their feedback of pre-mature wear at around 2 to 3 years. I owned a Passat B8 HL with 6-speed DSG with wet clutches, and I do almost 90% of KL city drive with traffic jam. My car is creeping in traffic jam most of the time, and I wonder how long my DSG clutches will last? Thank you.
My Golf R has a 6 speed wet clutch and it has been 5 years without any problems.
Is it correct if traffic is crawling at ~10kmh, I'll just keep one car distance with the car in front and lightly tap throttle to keep up and only press the brake when traffic stops? Is the clutch fully engaged at 10kmh and not slipping? Thanks
Correct. Clutch engagement or disengagement is determined by the first few mm of play in the brake pedal - your foot tells the car system what is your intention.
@@YSKhongDriving Thanks. Keep up the good work.
Mr Khong,
I just bought myself a proton x70, it's transmission happens to be a DCT wet clutch type. You mentioned in your narration that in the event of the car in a traffic jam, one mustn't inch the car along with the slow moving vehicles in front, and doing so would shorten the life of the clutches. However, there are times approaching traffic lights juction, I would be forced to slow down the car by light stepping the brake pedal over a distance until it comes to a complete stop. Would you also call this inching the car along? And will this be bad for the clutches? Any other way of doing this better?
That would be normal. I Ching is when you are in a jam and you let the car inch forward.
@@YSKhongDriving tqvm!
Well explained uncle khong 👍
Thanks! 😃
Hi Uncle Khong, can you help me understand why did the 6 speed DSG dropped gears from 3rd to 2nd with roughness? Is there a way to minimise this by driving habbits or is it time to get a new clutch?
Can you explain exactly what you mean? Is it you are dropping gear with the paddle shift or is it going down by itself. Are you in D or in M mode, what speed, when does it happen, when does it not. It is not clear to me from your description, so I need as much information as possible. Were you braking or accelerating? And exactly what do you mean by roughness.
Planing on getting the 1.2 tsi polo 2013 any feedback for this car? Worth buying?
Great car. My daughter has one 2015 model.
Uncle YS I’m buying a used VW with DSG. How to check if the gbox still good? Any reliable workshop technician to recommend ?
Hi Vincent, drive it slowly in D. If it bites quickly and solidly, it is ok. If it vibrates a little, it may mean clutch is weak. Usually the gearbox is ok, only the clutch. Clutch is replaceable, around rm3.5k.
My R is 6 years old going into 7th year, still very good, no problem. My TSi is 11 years old, clutch replaced in year 3 under warranty, still good, no problem.
@@YSKhongDriving noted uncle YS. Will go for it
Hi uncle. I heard from someone to avoid damaging the dq200 dsg ( dry clutch ) when in a jam is to manually put the gear at Gear 1 and roll it when in jam. Instead of putting it in D and let it stall or roll with the jam. Is it?
Not true. The idea is to minimise the rolling in a jam. Please watch our video on how to use the DSG. Cos I don't want to write down in words what I said in the video.
@@YSKhongDriving appreciate your explanation can you send the link for that video you said, tq in advance
Hi Mr Khong, I am a fan of your genting drive videos and back in around 2010 I drove my friend's Golf GTI for about a month and yes DSG is fantastic but after a few years the GTI gave him lots of problems from engine to gearbox. So till today I still advoid buying DCT cars. I agree with your video that the clutch works like a manual and we all know manual clutches will wear and need replacement so isnt it the same for DCT clutches? Wouldn't it need replacement? Clutch replacement for DCT is a more complex and expensive procedure. As mentioned in your video, the dry DSG have overheating prob on bigger or higher performance car so wet DSG is used. From what I understand, wet DSG have the issues of clutch dust/flakes from wear being circulated in the transmission oil and logically that is not a good thing. Let me know if I am wrong cos if DCT have solved these issues then I will gladly get a DCT car next!
Some people confuse maintenance with repair. Yes, clutches need replacement: so if a clutch needs replacement, it is not a problem. Even jet engines need to be overhauled, so does that mean it is problematic? Automatics also have bands and clutches internally and they wear out. Then the gearbox just slips a lot more or it just dies. While they are slipping, most people don't even realise it, and think it's the engine. Anything that moves needs to be maintained.
I have a 10 year old TSi with a dry clutch : it is still as good as new. I also have a 5 yr old Golf R with a wet clutch. It is still going strong.
As for the transmission fluid, just change it every 30 k km. It's the same with engine oil - metal particles from wear and tear, carbon from the fuel, adulteration from unburnt petrol, and even overnight condensation pollute the oil: that is why you change; it is maintenance, not a problem.
Strongly argee with Uncle YS. Many people confuse the repair and maintenance. People thinking of replace of clutch is considered major repair but in fact it is a minor replacement job (but need skill worker to complete). And the cost of clutch replacement in VW Malaysia SC is quoted RM 4k and external workshop quoted using genuine part from Germany is half price. After replace of new clutch the transmission feel like relived. But again many VW users especially wet clutch did not replace clutch even after 7 years of usage. I personally do change of transmission fluid in every 30k km to maintain it best performance and protection.
Whereas for AT it is more reliable however when problem arise it always need major repair. And in many cases the gearbox can't be repaired the owner will need to buy a used or recond unit without guarantee of problem free and lifespan. Why not buying a new on? A new one cost tens of thousands. I got a friend who operate a gearbox repair specialist shop in Kelana Jaya.
@@aeroline11 How about CVT? IMO, it's more unreliable and problematic than DSG & torque converter
Hi Uncle Khong, what do you think of the Golf R mk7? I am considering to get a used unit but very concern on the reliability of a VW brand. I've used to owned a 2010 Polo 1.2 tsi and that car has given me lots of problem after driving it for about 3 months. If I am not mistaken the service advisor at that time mentioned its due to some mechatronic / gearbox issue which causes the car engine to shutdown once it goes above 40kmh. They had even did the necessary replacement and the problem still persist. Since then the car has been in and out of the workshop once every 2-3 months. Sold the car not too long after. I believe more and more customers are experiencing a similar / other issues to a point that there is a dedicated Facebook community to share their DSG defects haha..
Nevertheless, I would like to once again revisit this brand as I heard many good reviews on the Golf R. This is also the only performance car which fits my criteria and budget. Hope to hear some of your inputs. Thanks in advance!
I have the Golf 7 R sitting in my porch. Had it for 5 years already.
My 1.2 Polo tsi is a year newer than your (2011) but the car & DSG gearbox has been so far so good. Bought new, still driving it today.
Just pay more and get a C43
Is it better to put a dsg in neutral with handbrakes up while in a long waiting traffic light to prolong the life?
As long as your foot is firmly on the brakes, it is just as good. But if you are in the Butterworth area with the 15 minute traffic lights you can even go down for a coffee and come back ( just joking(.
Hi Uncle Kong, is a used V Touran still worth to own now? What about the rest of the used V model which is worth
owning with a low maintenance. Please suggest a few used model for an every day driving. Scirocco?
A Touran and Scirocco are at two extremes. Hard for me to advise if your options are so diverse. Those cars with the 1.4 engine would be quite cheap to maintain. Consider the Polo or Vento TSi. Great car.
@@YSKhongDriving Perhaps Jetta is a good one with not so problematic Gearbox?
The Jetta, Cross Touran and the 1.4 Scirocco basically have the same drive train as the Golf TSi. I have the MK6 Golf TSi with the same drive train, still running fine after 10 years.
The Jetta handles very well - extremely well balanced.
@@YSKhongDriving Thank you Uncle Khong!
Uncle mk7 gti 2013 ada gearbox issue ke? Is it reliable. Pernah bawak mk5 gti sedap tekan huhu
Gti is wet clutch, no issue.
Good sharing. Danke
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This is year 4 im using dsg, still no problem, but mekatronik oil always change at 30k km. Only abs sensor replace few times 🤣🤣🤣
Hello, Dry or wet clutch? Thanks
uncle, how to prolong the use of mechatronic?
You mean the clutch?
@@YSKhongDriving nope. i mean the mechatronic for dsg. it keeps failing me. once every 2 years 😢
@@braderyoutube1983 which gearbox? 6 speed?
Can i engage my dsg to manual in traffic jams and use the gear shifters?
Best to keep it in auto.
With DSG, would your recommend putting the gear in neutral when stationary? Or just leave it in gear like the automatic transmission. Thanks
Leave it in gear, and step on brake firmly.
Uncle YS, will it better to use auto hold brake?
Same with autohold?
Thank you Uncle.. Such an helpful video.
And we all want to see you collect all VW models in 1:18 scale😁
A huge respect to you from Bangladesh🇧🇩 👍
And uncle one question is it ok if we always use auto hold option in DSG gearbox?
Hello, thanks for your support. And yes, it is better to use autihold. Will minimise the creeping and save the clutch.
@@YSKhongDriving Thanks a lot Uncle for the info..👍
Should i get an a4 2017? Any problems with the stronic trans?
No issues.
Thanks
Wonderfully instructive video. Thank You!
Thank you so much!
uncle khong which dsg is the best in reliability and less problematic 6 or 7 or 8?
I dont really know. All have been good so far.
does putting Neutral in traffic helps to prolong the clutch?
Not really. Keeping foot firmly on brakes will do. If you have AutoHold, use it. Try not to let the tramsmission creep.
@@YSKhongDriving but uncle khong my car is a mk6 gti and it doesn’t have a autohold function.
Hi uncle I m fateh from India can u please tell me that here in Delhi(India) would the dsg-dq200 be successful in bumper to bumper traffic and in heat as I m going to purchase Volkswagen t roc 1.5 TSI please suggest
Should be okay.
Mr Khong is really a VW fans
Hi mr khong..I owned a skoda superb 2009 (1.8 turbo),recently I encounter the AFT issue,when I on the engine,all the lights of P/R/N/D
Will just on(actually it will be on one either P,R,N or D,)..when I shift the gear,the whole car will jerk..I need to on and off the engine few times before I the car soo jerking,can u pls assist me with the problem,tqvm.
Sorry,typo.....before the car stop jerking...
Probably a sensor not functioning well. I have the same problem on another 5 speed auto car which does not have the DSG
At traffic jam/light isit better to put AT gear on neutral?
Keep it on D. This minimises stress on the transmission.
@@YSKhongDriving tx
Same with autohold?
when traffic jam, i only press brake to stop and no on pedal accelarations as it will move while in D gear slowly.. Is this actions correct ?
Yes.
dsg come with dry or wet clutch right? the dry clutch is the problematic one? is it resolve now?
I should think so.
Hi uncle ys, thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have a question, how much hp and torque the 7speed dry clutch able to handle? Those people tuning for stage 2. Does it make the gearbox caput because higher hp and torque? Thank you for reading my question.
Not quite sure, as each maker has their own specs. I heard it can take up to 300Nm, but cannot verify it. I fail to understand why people would spend so much to do the 1.4 engine up to Stage whatever, when the GTI is right there.
uncle where u bought that sharan?
What Sharan. I dontt think it is available here anymore
I always went into neutral at the traffic light from a fear of someone hitting me from behind and damaging my transmission while in drive. Now I know not to do that