I agreed every point u said. Car handling works is about matching the right parts n elements to it, there's is no god parts that work for all conditions.
Kudos, uncle! Another great informative video. Can't wait for more to come especially the description about the effects of different types of suspensions :)
Great lessons.. Thanks Uncle Khong. We need more lessons on take care a car's battery, tyres, engine, car body paint, windscreen..... Thanks you uncle.. 😊
Thank you Uncle YS explaining the handling of the cars. I am in tyre related industry for many years and it is true tyre performance is better in expensive range. For turbocharged vehicle I strongly not recommend to use entry level tyre even if it were Michelin XM2+. The more expensive tyre will able to provide better grip for high horsepower high torque vehicle meanwhile less body roll in corner due to harder sidewall. Maybe uncle YS can do a video for public to learn about tyre performance.
Just my opinion, but keep cheap, not gripping tires on the car until you learn how to control the power and the spins. A tire that spins easily will teach throttle control!
Old video but still found out very informative! Straight forward & easy to understand. Sir, do you plan on making a video about suspension setting such as stiffness & ride height that is ideal on Malaysia road? -could be a content from your personal opinion & driving experience. I think that could be very helpful for most of car enthusiast in Malaysia that want to have mixed combination in terms of improve handling while not damaging our car. Cheers!
Good stuff Uncle YS! 🙏🏻I recalled from another video you did on tyres few months ago, you said soft compound tyres give better grip and hard compound tyres are more long lasting. I think I will go for soft compound tyres next since I don’t put much mileage on the clock from mainly city driving.
Thank you for the information uncle YS! Hope for future video that explains more about suspension setups, and especially role of anti roll bars, as from my point of understanding they are quite controversial! Would love to hear your opinions on this, uncle!
To me I don't think it is a need to explain about anti roll bar since public users take the car in normal use rather than on track. If explanation of suspension design such as multilink, double wishbone or torsion beam is good to share but if modification setup then not really suit for most people.
Ya, the modern cars tend to have very very small margin to take up some load. Myvi third gen, carry 4 people (5 if include driver), just to pass by a bump, especially those which is build in such a way where the entry and exit of the bump is so narrow with the actual height is going to bang somewhere.
Can you do a video on tires - the best tire at each price range? Surely there tires that are costs different from different manufacturers, but has similar performance due to branding, manufacturing location? I guess this is purely from performance perspective, without considering tire noise, durability and wet performance
Uncle Khong, would like to know if say a car like Myvi being fitted with strut/anti roll bars and all, would it make the car handle much better? And any setbacks from doing so? Thanks.
very informative Uncle! uncle why people dont increase the width of the tires alot to improve the handling ? what are the downsides of too wide tires ? is it slowing the car down ?
@ilovecars wider tyre means larger surface area, this will reduce the pressure of the tyre pressing against the road. This is why wider tyre will perform worse than narrower tyre (on the same car) in the wet, because the tyre is not 'pressing' hard enough through the layer of water on the road.
Unfortunately reality is ride comfort vs. handling is usually inversely related, and most "road cars" are a compromise. Most people wouldn't know this. Best compromise between ride comfort / handling for a car's setup are usually in the lighter performance cars, like the MX5s or the Alpines, or some may prefer the wallowly soft suspension tunes of most Japanese road car. If you need performance, handling and comfort at the same time, you will need to take it a step up in price to find cars that are fit with fancy adaptive (on-demand electronically or mechanically) suspension systems like the "Air" suspensions of the Germans, the "hydro-pneumatics" of the French and luxury marques, or the magnetic suspensions of the Americans. Then you can adapt ride comfort / handling depending on the need of the moment, but when it comes to this, you'll have another issue, long term reliability and long term maintenance costs (usually pops up after the warranty period). Why are older Japanese standard road cars so reliable? they're simple machines designed to ride soft, handle for normal drives, and doesn't include fancy performance upgrades, or sensor tech, or adaptive suspension setups. That said, in a few year's time you'll find the Japanese will be as unreliable as the Germans, French, etc, as they have too started to kit out their road cars with performance turbos, electronics, sensors and fancy suspension. Ask a Mazda, Lexus owner
@@YSKhongDriving thanks for the down to earth presentation of the concepts. Great material and aid for people beginning to learn about cars. I agree, when getting a car, best to start with a clear aim in mind, and then only proceed to test drive the cars, and settle for one that fit your criteria, then live with it. Hearsay doesn't help much, as a large portion so called mainstream "professional" car journos these days, e.g. T*pG*** etc. are just affiliate "salesmen", or their views and reviews steeped in personal biases. When we buy a car, we have to try it, and then embrace what the car is, compromise, cost and care
Hi, on the topic of handling... Want to know more about adjustable coilovers with high speed and low speed compression as well as high speed and low speed rebound on how they effect handling... Is it possible to use these absorbers to achieve a extremely smooth and comfortable ride while still HV decent handling?
Shock absorbers can do what you set them to do. In other words even of they are adjustable, usually only the rebound is adjustable. And they stay at that last setting you used. Road conditions change all the time, but the settings remain. It is possible to set a compromise setting somewhere between good ride comfort and good handling - which basically means you should have just left it as standard. QED.
@@YSKhongDriving Can't it get better then standard or perhaps last longer? What I meant by least longer is that it will maintain the new shocks comfort for longer as I have found in that in one of my older vehicle; changing to a standard new absorber only made the car feel extra comfortable, handle nicer for about 2- 3 weeks before it settles down to a normal acceptable ride... 😅 It almost feel like the compression stroke became harder or more restrictive after the initial 2-3 weeks...
Hi Uncle YS, what's your opinion about changing new tyre. For rear and front, which one to change first if I could only afford 2 tyres rather than 4 tyres.
Some quarters say rear, but I would put the new tyres in front. Reason is the new tyres will be softer and easier to balsnce, and will provide better grip to the front, better for turnin in , so chance of understeer is reduced and all problems start with understeer.
Hi sifu, can u make a video on what contributes to car’s ride quality ? I own e300 hybrid that is fitted with sport suspension. Horrible ride quality. The thing is it isnt sporty at all bcs the rebound is too soft. Even the camry rides better than the current e class
Does rear torsion beam or multi-link have different impact on a front wheel drive car? How about adding ultra racing bars, coilovers and using performance tire improve the handling ?
@@YSKhongDriving : I have 4 pcs of ultra racing bars on my car, front x 2 and rear x 2. My JB mechanic say rear is more important to put ultra racing because for front wheel drive will provide the rear with stability during cornering to prevent the rear from moving like a tail. is he correct?
Brandon Wong these bars are to stiffen up the car so there is less flex to the chassis during cornering. During cornering your vehicle is like a towel being wrung dry, it twists. Stiffening up the chassis will help, on any part of the car. Just be sure these bars are solid and do the job rather than easthetic and just a placebo effect.
Hi Uncle Khong, great tutorials! I heard there is difference handling for front wheel drive, rear wheel drive, mid wheel drive and 4wd drive, is it correct?
I have a car in which the distance between the front wheel and the rear wheel is big. Whenever I go over a bump my car easily gets hit on the bottom middle because the rear wheel does not manage to raise before the front wheel got down, unless I am going very very slow nearly stopped. Does it mean that I have to get a suspension that rebound much quickly
@@YSKhongDriving How come Uncle Khong dont get the WRX or manual STI same category with Golf R but Japanese maintenance or You prefer the Golf refinements and materials The revered over millions subscriber Engineering Explained favorite car is Subaru too, XV calling it one it one of the greatest car
Hi Uncle YS, I am driving a 2005 Honda City i-DSI. I changed the rear suspension to new original set. It tends to be very stiff and I can really feel the "rear kick up" when I drive over uneven roads. I don't find it comfortable. Where can we source a suitable softer suspension? I am living in Kuching, Sarawak and due to stocks limitation here, I don't mind to source it from West Malaysia.
If it is original, it should be according to manufacturer specs. Given time it will season and soften a little. Perhaps you were so used to the 'weakened' and soft feel.
Every tyre has a design objective. Softer compounds have a shorter life compared to harder compounds but have more grip. More grooves mean better wet grip but more rubber means better dry grip. Therefore every tyre is also a compromise.
Hi, tyres are measured by width and aspect ratio. If you meant the tyre width, yes, the grip is partially affected by the width. Other factors include the aspect ratio,tread pattern, rubber compound and even how the tyre is constructed.
Hello Uncle. I have one question to asking. If by Uncle opinion, 2 Tyre good year assurance triplemax 2 vs continental cc6 Tyre. Which one Uncle will recommend?
With the same tyres, body roll will decrease while the rear end of the car might be more likely to slide or oversteer in a sharp turn. Maybe a little more fun to drive in a front-wheel-drive car. While a rear wheel drive car should be tuned differently.
hii uncle ! , i need advice please. im playing to get a coilovers set but its a big budget for me saving up that amount since im still a student. whats ur opinion about it? is it really worth it to spend around 2k ringgit on coilovers set. ❤️
I wouldn't waste the money. You would be studying, and won't have much time to drive. You probably have a small car and it is not very powerful. You can spend the money elsewhere in a more useful way. Better to learn how to drive well. Just note most of the small cars we have in our videos are running standard suspension. Anyway some of the coilover sets are quite 'shady' as in we are not sure if they really work or not.
YS Khong Driving thank you for the great advice uncle, im really into cars since young , been to so many car meets and events. the supra mk4 is one of my dream cars too! i put aside 20% of my allowance every month to save up to modify my car slowly :)) currently driving a honda crz and love the drive to college every morning and back home in the evening.
@@YSKhongDriving Sage advice Boss. Next prolly you should have a vid on what spring poundage is and on damping and rebound and stiction and its effect on US and/or OS set-up etc...kasi baiiik punya understanding. Along the lines of your excellent geo/alignment tutorial.
Uncle legend.. when you said about jump, suddenly rally in Finland jump in my mind. My question is when a rally organiser put a scale to measure on a big jump, what are criteria they're looking for? It the best car balance,speed,setup,driving control, or just for fun? th-cam.com/video/7KeAH4hYVJE/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/HeeV06bmTfs/w-d-xo.html
I love this uncle. He's very grounded even though he's a legend.
I agreed every point u said. Car handling works is about matching the right parts n elements to it, there's is no god parts that work for all conditions.
Kudos, uncle! Another great informative video. Can't wait for more to come especially the description about the effects of different types of suspensions :)
Great lessons..
Thanks Uncle Khong.
We need more lessons on take care a car's battery, tyres, engine, car body paint, windscreen.....
Thanks you uncle.. 😊
Thank you Uncle YS explaining the handling of the cars. I am in tyre related industry for many years and it is true tyre performance is better in expensive range. For turbocharged vehicle I strongly not recommend to use entry level tyre even if it were Michelin XM2+. The more expensive tyre will able to provide better grip for high horsepower high torque vehicle meanwhile less body roll in corner due to harder sidewall. Maybe uncle YS can do a video for public to learn about tyre performance.
Maybe...
Just my opinion, but keep cheap, not gripping tires on the car until you learn how to control the power and the spins. A tire that spins easily will teach throttle control!
Good work!!!! Uncle YS!!! You always explain really well. Others TH-camrs are not even near. Thumbs UP!
Old video but still found out very informative! Straight forward & easy to understand. Sir, do you plan on making a video about suspension setting such as stiffness & ride height that is ideal on Malaysia road? -could be a content from your personal opinion & driving experience. I think that could be very helpful for most of car enthusiast in Malaysia that want to have mixed combination in terms of improve handling while not damaging our car. Cheers!
Good stuff Uncle YS! 🙏🏻I recalled from another video you did on tyres few months ago, you said soft compound tyres give better grip and hard compound tyres are more long lasting. I think I will go for soft compound tyres next since I don’t put much mileage on the clock from mainly city driving.
Yes, if you don't travel a lot, might as well travel in style. Yes, the hard compounds are for long distance.
Also, on average, soft compound tyres cost more to buy!
Thank you for the information uncle YS! Hope for future video that explains more about suspension setups, and especially role of anti roll bars, as from my point of understanding they are quite controversial! Would love to hear your opinions on this, uncle!
To me I don't think it is a need to explain about anti roll bar since public users take the car in normal use rather than on track. If explanation of suspension design such as multilink, double wishbone or torsion beam is good to share but if modification setup then not really suit for most people.
introduction to automotive engineering huhu teruskan uncle
Great job for explaining the finer aspects of basic car handling..
Thankss Uncle YS. Very informative and insightful.
cars with good handling indirectly translates to safer ride as well.. mainly because cars with superior handling tend to minimise on over steering.
Agreed
Great Vid uncle, maybe also talk about understeer and oversteer in your next handling video
Ya, the modern cars tend to have very very small margin to take up some load. Myvi third gen, carry 4 people (5 if include driver), just to pass by a bump, especially those which is build in such a way where the entry and exit of the bump is so narrow with the actual height is going to bang somewhere.
Good tip esp the tire suggestion. Suspension is always a tricky topic, hope you can explain one day.
Learned a ton in this new year thankiu
When he said he used to drive a 1.6litre Toyota , I picture the trueno of his opening videos
That is a Levin. A True no is similar, but that is the JDM, with flip lights in front
Was it 4AGE or 4AGZE engine?
Hello uncle Ys , thanks a lot for answering my questions!!! Finally my confusion is cleared
Thanks YS for the knowledge
Hi uncle Kong. When mco is finished, I hope you can make videos like how to drive professionally tutorial. All the best
Sure! And thanks for being here.
Atuk meme hebat ! Idolaaa
Very informative, thank you.
Uncle!now i'm your fans!
Thank you. Get your friends too!
Uncle khong do a video of your classic rallying cars please! Is the 70s Mitsubishi Colt Lancer a potent rallying weapon?
In those days, yes. Not anymore
A bit technical for me, a driver from home to work place....
Thanks for informative content
Learning never ends. Thanks for watching.
Can you do a video on tires - the best tire at each price range? Surely there tires that are costs different from different manufacturers, but has similar performance due to branding, manufacturing location? I guess this is purely from performance perspective, without considering tire noise, durability and wet performance
thank you uncle for sharing
Thanks Sir for the info
uncle YS, at this video 10:55, you mentioned "wider tires are not so good'. Is it due to hydroplane?
Yes
Nice KG
very informative more power
Hi uncle ys, what is the general form of alignment setting for awd car? Seem to miss it in your previous video
Toe in rear wheels, toe out front wheels up to 1 mm each side
Uncle Khong, would like to know if say a car like Myvi being fitted with strut/anti roll bars and all, would it make the car handle much better? And any setbacks from doing so? Thanks.
You will get more from a set of sports shockers. The main contributor to ride n handling is the suspension.
very informative Uncle! uncle why people dont increase the width of the tires alot to improve the handling ? what are the downsides of too wide tires ? is it slowing the car down ?
Fouling the wheel arches, or touching the shock absorbers, cannot find the rims, cost. Many factors, including ignorance
@ilovecars wider tyre means larger surface area, this will reduce the pressure of the tyre pressing against the road. This is why wider tyre will perform worse than narrower tyre (on the same car) in the wet, because the tyre is not 'pressing' hard enough through the layer of water on the road.
Unfortunately reality is ride comfort vs. handling is usually inversely related, and most "road cars" are a compromise. Most people wouldn't know this. Best compromise between ride comfort / handling for a car's setup are usually in the lighter performance cars, like the MX5s or the Alpines, or some may prefer the wallowly soft suspension tunes of most Japanese road car. If you need performance, handling and comfort at the same time, you will need to take it a step up in price to find cars that are fit with fancy adaptive (on-demand electronically or mechanically) suspension systems like the "Air" suspensions of the Germans, the "hydro-pneumatics" of the French and luxury marques, or the magnetic suspensions of the Americans. Then you can adapt ride comfort / handling depending on the need of the moment, but when it comes to this, you'll have another issue, long term reliability and long term maintenance costs (usually pops up after the warranty period).
Why are older Japanese standard road cars so reliable? they're simple machines designed to ride soft, handle for normal drives, and doesn't include fancy performance upgrades, or sensor tech, or adaptive suspension setups. That said, in a few year's time you'll find the Japanese will be as unreliable as the Germans, French, etc, as they have too started to kit out their road cars with performance turbos, electronics, sensors and fancy suspension. Ask a Mazda, Lexus owner
Good points! I try to keep my cars stock. They last longer, and I drive to the car's ability and whatever limitations it may have.
@@YSKhongDriving thanks for the down to earth presentation of the concepts. Great material and aid for people beginning to learn about cars.
I agree, when getting a car, best to start with a clear aim in mind, and then only proceed to test drive the cars, and settle for one that fit your criteria, then live with it. Hearsay doesn't help much, as a large portion so called mainstream "professional" car journos these days, e.g. T*pG*** etc. are just affiliate "salesmen", or their views and reviews steeped in personal biases. When we buy a car, we have to try it, and then embrace what the car is, compromise, cost and care
Hi, on the topic of handling... Want to know more about adjustable coilovers with high speed and low speed compression as well as high speed and low speed rebound on how they effect handling... Is it possible to use these absorbers to achieve a extremely smooth and comfortable ride while still HV decent handling?
Shock absorbers can do what you set them to do. In other words even of they are adjustable, usually only the rebound is adjustable. And they stay at that last setting you used. Road conditions change all the time, but the settings remain. It is possible to set a compromise setting somewhere between good ride comfort and good handling - which basically means you should have just left it as standard. QED.
@@YSKhongDriving Can't it get better then standard or perhaps last longer? What I meant by least longer is that it will maintain the new shocks comfort for longer as I have found in that in one of my older vehicle; changing to a standard new absorber only made the car feel extra comfortable, handle nicer for about 2- 3 weeks before it settles down to a normal acceptable ride... 😅 It almost feel like the compression stroke became harder or more restrictive after the initial 2-3 weeks...
This should be in kemahiran hidup subject. to replace the topic of how to cook egg.
hello sir, could you do more of this (educational car videos), really educational :)
We will try
@@YSKhongDriving tq :)
Khong, if let u choose u more like vios or city👀👀
Hi Uncle YS, what's your opinion about changing new tyre. For rear and front, which one to change first if I could only afford 2 tyres rather than 4 tyres.
Some quarters say rear, but I would put the new tyres in front. Reason is the new tyres will be softer and easier to balsnce, and will provide better grip to the front, better for turnin in , so chance of understeer is reduced and all problems start with understeer.
Hi sifu, can u make a video on what contributes to car’s ride quality ? I own e300 hybrid that is fitted with sport suspension. Horrible ride quality. The thing is it isnt sporty at all bcs the rebound is too soft. Even the camry rides better than the current e class
I own a A250 and it rides horribly too. Basically you need softer shockers and perhaps springs.
Does rear torsion beam or multi-link have different impact on a front wheel drive car? How about adding ultra racing bars, coilovers and using performance tire improve the handling ?
Good questions. Too long to answer. Basically everything affects how your car behaves
@@YSKhongDriving : I have 4 pcs of ultra racing bars on my car, front x 2 and rear x 2. My JB mechanic say rear is more important to put ultra racing because for front wheel drive will provide the rear with stability during cornering to prevent the rear from moving like a tail. is he correct?
Brandon Wong these bars are to stiffen up the car so there is less flex to the chassis during cornering. During cornering your vehicle is like a towel being wrung dry, it twists.
Stiffening up the chassis will help, on any part of the car.
Just be sure these bars are solid and do the job rather than easthetic and just a placebo effect.
Hi Uncle Khong, great tutorials! I heard there is difference handling for front wheel drive, rear wheel drive, mid wheel drive and 4wd drive, is it correct?
Yup, and I did mention the build of the car matters.
I have a car in which the distance between the front wheel and the rear wheel is big. Whenever I go over a bump my car easily gets hit on the bottom middle because the rear wheel does not manage to raise before the front wheel got down, unless I am going very very slow nearly stopped. Does it mean that I have to get a suspension that rebound much quickly
It means your suspension is too soft, or you are going too fast. If yours is a German car, I can bet it's quite expensive and has a number 3 in it?
Wat is Ys Khong feeling on Subaru WRX Awd drives and handling especially the newer 2014 WRX.
It is a great system.
@@YSKhongDriving How come Uncle Khong dont get the WRX or manual STI same category with Golf R but Japanese maintenance or You prefer the Golf refinements and materials
The revered over millions subscriber Engineering Explained favorite car is Subaru too, XV calling it one it one of the greatest car
Hi Uncle YS, I am driving a 2005 Honda City i-DSI. I changed the rear suspension to new original set. It tends to be very stiff and I can really feel the "rear kick up" when I drive over uneven roads. I don't find it comfortable. Where can we source a suitable softer suspension? I am living in Kuching, Sarawak and due to stocks limitation here, I don't mind to source it from West Malaysia.
If it is original, it should be according to manufacturer specs. Given time it will season and soften a little.
Perhaps you were so used to the 'weakened' and soft feel.
@@YSKhongDriving Thank you Uncle YS!
did expensive tires has less lifespan compared to the cheaper one? due to the softer compound
Every tyre has a design objective. Softer compounds have a shorter life compared to harder compounds but have more grip. More grooves mean better wet grip but more rubber means better dry grip. Therefore every tyre is also a compromise.
Hi uncle...
Did the displacement of tires influenced a handling? Which means is a width displacement and a width of tires.
Hi, tyres are measured by width and aspect ratio. If you meant the tyre width, yes, the grip is partially affected by the width. Other factors include the aspect ratio,tread pattern, rubber compound and even how the tyre is constructed.
Gd Tutorial 👍❤
Please do a defensive driving video for new drivers.
Hmmm seems a good idea.
how you know the car will not slip away when you drive in corner of the road in high speed?
Experience! And the ability to feel the car and the road.
Hello Uncle. I have one question to asking. If by Uncle opinion, 2 Tyre good year assurance triplemax 2 vs continental cc6 Tyre. Which one Uncle will recommend?
To be honest, I have not tested these tyres in earnest, so cannot tell you which is better.
@@YSKhongDriving ok, thank u.
where did you get these cars uncle??😆😆The cars looking awesome as you😜
Just a few I happened to pick up.
Hi uncle, in simple terms, can u please explain what does car handling mean? Is it how responsive the car is when we turn the steering?
Simply - whether or not it does what you tell it to do!
YS Khong Driving thank you!
Hi Uncle Ys wanna ask why do people change their exhaust system/pipes????
Hahaha. Less restriction, better flow, louder
@@YSKhongDriving what do u mean by less restriction :?
Uncle next drive mini austin uphill
Will thicker rear anti roll bar helps with all things remain
A little less roll.
@@YSKhongDriving thanks for the reply, am driving a Passat B8, thinking of this small upgrade
With the same tyres, body roll will decrease while the rear end of the car might be more likely to slide or oversteer in a sharp turn. Maybe a little more fun to drive in a front-wheel-drive car. While a rear wheel drive car should be tuned differently.
Actually a good alignment job is all you need. Watch our two Passat videos and if you feel you are going to drive faster than that, then do the mod.
Thanks all for the advice
Car guru
hii uncle ! , i need advice please. im playing to get a coilovers set but its a big budget for me saving up that amount since im still a student. whats ur opinion about it? is it really worth it to spend around 2k ringgit on coilovers set. ❤️
I wouldn't waste the money. You would be studying, and won't have much time to drive. You probably have a small car and it is not very powerful. You can spend the money elsewhere in a more useful way. Better to learn how to drive well.
Just note most of the small cars we have in our videos are running standard suspension. Anyway some of the coilover sets are quite 'shady' as in we are not sure if they really work or not.
YS Khong Driving thank you for the great advice uncle, im really into cars since young , been to so many car meets and events. the supra mk4 is one of my dream cars too! i put aside 20% of my allowance every month to save up to modify my car slowly :)) currently driving a honda crz and love the drive to college every morning and back home in the evening.
@@YSKhongDriving Sage advice Boss. Next prolly you should have a vid on what spring poundage is and on damping and rebound and stiction and its effect on US and/or OS set-up etc...kasi baiiik punya understanding. Along the lines of your excellent geo/alignment tutorial.
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Very informative but a 2012 Myvi se 1.5 with new rear shocks and full passengers and luggage..still drags the rear like its a lowrider..hahahahahhaha
Your springs are probably due for change too. Perhaps sagged to much.
Uncle legend.. when you said about jump, suddenly rally in Finland jump in my mind. My question is when a rally organiser put a scale to measure on a big jump, what are criteria they're looking for? It the best car balance,speed,setup,driving control, or just for fun?
th-cam.com/video/7KeAH4hYVJE/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/HeeV06bmTfs/w-d-xo.html
I hope that you can make video call with the Flying Sikh.
Jumps just happen to be there - the name of the game is to be fastest through a stage, not the distance of a jump.