The video was really well done with lots of rich information about the clubs. However the Fluminense story is wrong. Fluminense was playing against América, a Rio club, and one of Fluminense´s players was a black man called Carlos Alberto, who used to play in America. As an insult, America fans started to call him "pó de arroz" because there was a rumor that he used to use face powder in his face after he shaved. As an answer, Fluminense fans started to use the face powder as a symbol of the club. And to assign the "urubu" racist meaning only to Fluminense is completely wrong and out of the reality. All the rivals did the same. And as all football crowds, Fluminense has some disrespectful fans, of course. Nowadays, some rivals make homophobic insults to Fluminense fans. But as I said, this is not the major part of Flamengo or Vasco fans. This is the minority that is also disrespectful. So I think it's unfair to assign this only to Fluminense as the institution is racist or something...
Yes I’m sorry it is unfair on Fluminense. I like Fluminense as a club but at the time I read a few explanations about ‘po de arroz’ (I say that in the video). The one I thought was more plausible was the one I said but I could be wrong - I apologise (I will pin 📌 your comment). I read ‘Urubu’ came from rival Fluminense fans but I know it is not all fans and it was a long time ago. I love the way Brazilian fans take insults and make them positive e.g. ‘peixe’ with Santos... so ‘po de arroz’ may have come from the initial insult from America. I know that Brazilian fans use homophobic chants and insults for rival fans too - São Paulo, and Cruzeiro being examples. Again I’m sorry for painting a bad picture of Fluminense in this video. ✌️⚽️
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS I know it's not your fault, but the misinformation about Fluminense is terrible, mainly due to the biased Brazilian media, which creates narratives based on false information and perpetuates the lie as if it were true. medium.com/@FluminenseFC/o-clube-mais-democr%C3%A1tico-do-brasil-9cb9a4b08b18
@@FelipeCarreiro I cannot even find the information I read at the time! But I think that the information relating to the America incident is probably the truth now. I am sorry and I have pinned this comment in the hope that people see it.
Eu nao acredito.... Eu entendi a maior parte da esplicação, sem precisar de legenda... Tou feliz demais esse era meu obstaculo: entender!!! Claro vou continuar me aperfeicoando ainda mais.
The English might have made football popular but the Brazilians made it Jogo Bonito! A beautiful country with a mixture of beautiful human races who are so passionate about this game. Saludaçoes!
Ele disse "made it popular" e ele ta certo, o resto do Mundo conhece Futebol primero pela premier League depois La Liga e os outros campeonatoa europeus. Ninguém conhece os times brasileiros so conhecem a seleção. Sua interpretation was wrong @@arthurioscavieromatoseferr9936
In Rio, Bangu was the pioneer and Fluminense also have black players in the 1910's decade: medium.com/@FluminenseFC/o-clube-mais-democr%C3%A1tico-do-brasil-9cb9a4b08b18
Palmeiras' nickname "pig" came from a mess in a state championship, Corinthians had 2 players deads, if I'm not mistaken it was due to an accident, so there was a vote for Corinthians to write 2 more players, all the teams accepted except the palmeiras, so the president of Corinthians that year gave the nickname to Palmeiras "pig spirit", the palmeiras fans decided to adopt this nickname.
não adianta reescrever a história. Palmeiras era chamado de porco desde décadas antes deste episódio. isso porque italianos no brasil comiam bastante polenta, algo que os outros paulistas viam como comida de porco. por isso o apelido.
3:25 just to add, Pelé said Vasco has the most beautiful story in football. To explain, the only way for them to get back into the league other than disposing the black players was by getting a stadium, which they couldnt finance, so the fans themselves helped finance AND build what was then the biggest stadium in south america, the "São Januário". Thus why Pelé named Vasco as the club with the most beautiful story in football.
Fluminense means "native of the river" - Rio de Janeiro" Flumen is the Latin word for Rio and the Latin ending "ense" means the place where you are from. Flamengo started out as a rowing club. Flamengo is the old Portuguese word for Dutch. The explanation is that the club is located on a beach called "Praia do Flamengo". And this beach has that name because in the 17th century, Dutch invaders were killed by the Portuguese and Indian allies and left on this beach. Botafogo means to set fire to something. It was also a rowing club and its name is inspired by a powerful Portuguese ship, which literally "set fire" to opposing ships in the colonial era. Vasco da Gama, as the name says, is the name of the great Portuguese navigator, the first to arrive in the Indies in the 15th century. It was also a rowing club, basically a club from the great Portuguese colony that lived in Rio de Janeiro. São Pualo and Palmeiras were cubes of the Italian and German colonies, respectively. Palmeiras was called Palestra Italia, which meant "Academia Italia" and São Paulo was called Germania. They had to change their name when Brazil entered the Second World War, on the side of the allies.
Ohhh my.... you explained very well, including the nicknames of the teams and particularies of them as well. As a brazilian and a Corinthians fan, I congratulate you bro. Salutes from São Paulo - Brazil.
I know Brazilians are very knowledgeable so I really appreciate the comment 👍 I love so many things about the league - the history, the skill and determination of the players, the rivalries, the tradition and even the kits.
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS that's very rare an english or a european to get interested in our league, our history, traditions, rivalries, that's really nice. Count with me if you have some doubts or curiosities about our soccer. I live in São Paulo and off course I'm a Corinthians fan, if you need some information about anything, count with me, that's will be a pleasure to be usefull for someone who is so far. I'm sorry by my poor english.
@@richardprado5914 It's a shame it's not broadcasted in the UK - we get the Australian league!!! Thank you - I appreciate the offer. My next video is about this season's Brasileirao :) I think my pronunciation of some of the teams and players is wrong! I'll post it later.
Cruzeiro also was named Palestra Italia and had to change so it wouldn't display a enemy name during ww2 Great video, lots of things that i didn't knew before it
Curiosity: "timão", the nickname of Corinthians, is a pun on a big team (timão) and timon (too timão) due to the connection between the club and the seas
@@otaviomarques6299 actually was, when Garrincha assigned to play for Corithians in 1966, the the press said they were forming a 'Timão", so the name stuck on.
Corinthians não nasceu como clube de remos. Nasceu como um clube de futebol de operários. Por esse viés popular o clube tinha projetos poliesportivos e o remo passou a ser praticado depois. Um jogador de futebol do Corinthians pintou na sede uma homenagem aos esportes náuticos que haviam sido implantados no clube, pintando pás, remos e âncoras que compõem o escudo atual. Essa imagem ficou por anos na sede quando passou a ser utilizada pelo clube nas partidas de futebol.
Congratulation! It's a great idea to teach English like this. Thanks to show me your TH-cam Channel from OOE answer.👍 You really know about our Brazilian clubs.
perfeita explicação, incluindo a explicação correta sobre o apelido de "porco" do Palmeiras que era preconceito contra a colônia italiana que sempre foi chamada pelos adversários de "porcos fascistas" na década de 1940. Diferente do que a mídia brasileira tenta esconder!
thank you very much for helping to promote our teams and our league. it is a pity that you English football lovers do not know one of the most disputed leagues in the world so much. and seriously, São Paulo is giant, has a lot of history .. even a Japanese soccer anime mentions our tricolor, being the team that the character plays coming to Brazil.
I think Europeans in general don’t know much about Brazilian club football. The sound in the São Paulo part changed slightly sorry. I’ve just made a quiz for people in my Facebook group about Brazilian club football.
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS I liked the video, there’s only one detail about the colors of São Paulo. they don't mean anything, they are just the colors of the two teams that founded the same. maybe you could have said that we are the most winning team in our country, the third biggest fan, but the video was very good. when it comes to knowing our league, i believe that in spain and portugal they know a little more about our football. good luck with your channel.
@@jp3667 Yes I imagine Spain and Portugal know more about Brazilian football. Yes I mention that Sao Paulo have appeared in the Copa Libertadores final the most in my quiz on Facebook. Thank you for the info about the colours of the kit. I read about the Tricolour representing the races on Wikipedia but I doubted it to be honest... I just thought it was a nice idea and mentioned it in the video. Maybe someone interpreted the colours like that at a later date.
Meus parabéns pelo vídeo, gostei muito! Você tem a didática muito boa! é interessante a forma como você explica e o conhecimento que tem sobre os clubes brasileiros. Keep going, mate :)
I'd say that Athletico-PR, Sport and Bahia are of the same size, but right now Athletico-PR is in a better moment. Coritiba is also there, but it's been quite some time since they had a convincing team. Maybe one day Athletico-PR will be considered a big club, they are surely on the right path and Botafogo, Vasco and Fluminense need to get back on track immediately.
@@Guilherme-wh7mc E daí mano? Botafogo também é bi brasileiro e é minusculo. Respeito o futebol do nordeste, mas não coloca-lo no nível de times como São Paulo, Flamengo e Santos, não quer dizer menosprezar.
Uma curiosidade: O Fluminense é o único clube de futebol do Mundo que possui a Taça Pierre de Coubertin (ou Taça Olímpica),é uma honraria outorgada pelo COI,considerada o prêmio Nobel do esporte mundial. O Fluminense recebeu tal honraria em 1949.
Para receber tal honraria, o pleiteador deve ser exemplo de organização administrativa e um vitorioso nos setores esportivos, sociais, artísticos e cívicos. Um complexo de perfeição durante um ano inteiro, e escolhido como o melhor dentre os demais clubes, instituições esportivas e mesmo países do mundo, através de suas federações. Ela foi concedida ao Fluminense em 1949,pelo então presidente da FIFA Jules Rimet. O Fluminense no começo do século passado era um exemplo de agremiação esportiva,foi pioneiro no futebol do Rio de Janeiro,o mito da seleção brasileira começou nas Laranjeiras(casa do Fluminense),aliás não só o Futebol...O Fluminense contribui decisivo para o esporte nacional,como por exemplo,a primeira medalha olímpica que o Brasil ganhou foi de um atleta do Fluminense (Afrânio da costa). "O Fluminense é a agremiação esportiva mais perfeita do Mundo" - Jules Rimet
São Paulo FC has the third largest crowd in Brazil, in addition to being the club in Brazil with the most international titles (12), 3 World Championships and 3 Libertadores de America (Libertation of South America) , thus it is considered the biggest Brazilian club. 🇾🇪
@@sanmishiana Hmm I'll check them out, I was thinking Vasco Da Gama as their history is pretty interesting! I don't want a side too strong... Are Fluminese strong?
@@krioboy8104 In Brazil league, there's no top team. Well, today is Flamengo, he is pretty far from the other teams in South America. But in the history, it's kind different from Europe, cause 10,12,14 teams in the division have great time, moments and was pretty strong, like Flamengo who defeat easily Liverpool in 81, 3x0. Or Internacional defeating Ronaldinho Barcelona, Santos from Pelé was pretty far from the teams of any side of the world in their time, also Botafogo. I wanna mean, its not like Germany with 2 teams, Spain with 3 teams, in Brazil is 10,12,13 teams that can appears in top. Fluminense could be a good choice, today he is not a good team, but he can make great matches with anyone. The strongest teams today. Flamengo, Palmeiras, Atlético Mineiro, Intenacional, São Paulo. Other teams that might be some trouble, Fluminense, Santos, Grêmio, Corinthians, Atlético Paranaense and Vasco. And teams fighting to stay. Goias, Sport, Bahia, Atlético Goianiense, Ceará and Fortaleza.
@@krioboy8104 is a championship really balanced, almost every year, we see a legendary team falling to the second division, in the last season was Cruzeiro, first time in the team history, Chapecoense also was a good team that falls. Vasco falls 3 times, Fluminense 2. Eberything can happen.
Foi uma boa apresentação dos doze grandes, mas achei muito curta a parte que se refere ao GREMIO! O clube campeão mundial de 1983, três vezes campeão da América e que, entre outros craques, formou e lançou o Ronaldinho Gaúcho. Cento e vinte e um anos de história, sempre entre os primeiro do ranking. Isso tudo, sediado numa cidade de porte médio e longe dos maiores centros econômicos do Brasil.
Thanks for taking a look 👍 I appreciate the comment. I’m not sure about the Fluminense explanation now - I think ‘po de arroz’ probably originated in a different way ✌️⚽️
th-cam.com/video/FbOx7nTpYiQ/w-d-xo.html esse link é importante para você perceber que não pode esquecer de falar do esporte clube Bahia a gente é o único clube no Brasil a fazer um carnaval antes do clube entrar em campo!!!
th-cam.com/video/uvTw6Vopf1c/w-d-xo.html mosaico lindo no estádio arena fonte nova na final da copa do nordeste 2018 a maior competição regional do Brasil
Cruzeiro's was nickname "the fox" prior to the cartoonist story. In fact, the team was nicknamed by a journalist, who said that the club's president was "smart as a fox" for the way he acted in the transfer market at the time. The cartoonist just depicted the nee mascot.
Same with Atlético, it was compared to a local black and white rooster which was winning every fight. But the cartoonist, the great Mangabeira, did help solidify and popularize both mascots.
Very cool video. Just so you know... Clube Atlético Mineiro was named Galo because of its fighting ability and determination. This reason led to comparisons with the cockfights that existed at the time. One of the most notable players in the history of Galo was called Zé do Monte and had the habit of always entering with the team mascot under his arm.
Yeah Santos have produced so many great players - Diego, Felipe Anderson, Alex Sandro, Gabigol, Rodrygo etc... and those are just some of the ones playing now!
Awesome short and to the point video on Brazilian Football. If I remember correctly it used to be called Clube do 13. They had all the potential to create a Premier like league but corrupt politics & media moguls snuffed that possibility. Now you have a league who doesn't now how to use VAR technology. My favorite teams from Brazil: 1. SC Corinthians 2. Timao 3. SCCP 🐖 🚫🌎
So you support Corinthians :) Yeah it's a shame the league isn't shown more around the world. We get coverage of the Australian and American leagues but not the Brazilian?!?!
@@axxessmundi A highlights show once a week and a live match would be watched by millions in the UK alone. It makes sense for clubs or the Brasileirão to work together to create TV packages to sell to the world but I know it can be 'complicated'. I hope it happens but I'm not sure it will in the near future.
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS I highly doubt it. Brazilian business mentality is a, no offense to Brazilians, generation behind at minimum. Brazil produces more talent in football than any other nation but they sell players for absurdly prices. I can list countless examples up until the 80s to this month. Let's say Apple, highest market cap company, sold IPhones, IPad & MACs a 1/3 their price.... That's Brazilian football in my opinion.
In Portuguese, the term "Timão" refers to the device used to steer a ship, which is known in English as "helm." The "timão" controls the rudder, and by adjusting it, the ship's course is changed. So, "Timão" is the Portuguese word for what is called the "helm" in English.
Most nicknames mentioned are actually the team's mascots. I believe only Atlético Mineiro is called "Galo" (rooster). Maaaybe some fans call Santos "peixe", but not to the same degree.
Vai Corinthians! 2x World Champion - 2000 'n 2012 (in this year agaisnt Chelsea). Ronaldo played here (2009/2010) - Timao, o time do povo!!! Congrats man!
You overlooked the way São Paulo decided their colours. Your explanations isn’t wrong on the São Paulo state flag, but the team became what it is by combining two teams: athletic and another Associação das Palmeiras. One of the teams was red and white and the other was black and white. Thus, their colours and the disposition on the shirt.
Thank you 👍 I’ve always thought the explanation about the state flag and the different nationalities wasn’t correct. Your explanation makes much more sense.
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS your explanation is actually correct, but it is from another club in Brazil, Santa Cruz, it was founded before São Paulo and has the same colors, as it has been in a financial crisis since the 2000s it has not appeared as much in the elite of the club Brazilian football, but it is still one of the 20 biggest fans in the country
Since Brazil's history, we have received many emigrants from Europe, many of them founders of clubs such as Germans from Curitiba and Italians from Palmeiras and Cruzeiro. like the Portuguese from Vasco Gama and the Portuguese, in Argentina the same thing happened club Boca Junior has roots from Sweden
Hello mate, i heard that you´re a Liverpool fan. In your opinion, what do you and Liverpool fans thinks about Leeds United and Nottingham Forest, there is a rivalry beetwen Liverpool and these two clubs or not ? I´m a Palmeiras fan since child and i watch PL since 2007, i really like Man united because of Sir Alex team in the past, but i do the same with Liverpool of Rafa Benitez and nowadays of Klopp, despite the rivalry of these two giants, they are my favorite clubs in England. Good luck with the channel mate, we, brazilians aprecciates so much your efforts!!
Thank you (sorry for the late reply). There used to be a rivalry between Leeds and Liverpool (70s) but not so much now. The Leeds team of the 70s was considered a 'dirty' but good team with great players so a rivalry between the good Liverpool teams of the 70s developed. Now, there isn't really a rivalry - I think we bond over the shared dislike of Man United :) Leeds are a big northern club so there's a bit of rivalry in that sense - but nothing much. Nottingham Forest are in the Championship so there isn't any rivalry now and there has never been much historically too. When Forest had a good team in the early 80s, there was a rivalry because they were Liverpool's main competitors but not so much... and hardly any now. Liverpool and Manchester United are the two biggest clubs in England, in terms of success and fanbases.
Palmeiras is frequently made fun of not having a Intercontinental or Club World Cup. Their fans say that they won the Copa Rio in 1951 that was considered the club world cup for some
In the state of São Paulo in Brazil there are four major clubs, with the biggest fans being Corinthians followed by São Paulo, Palmeiras and Santos ... The four are considered rivals ...
I've never been and I can't even imagine the sheer size of Sao Paulo. Are different areas within the city associated with different teams? I know Santos is on the outskirts of the city close to the coast.
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS Sim Yes in this case Santos is the only club with its headquarters outside the city but it is in the same state that is also called são paulo. In the city alone there are more than 12 million inhabitants. Sorry for the mistakes, I'm using the translator.
2:25 You see on the map Flamengo beach next Botafogo beach? Its where Flamengo's Club were born. The word Flamengo means Flemish (people that are born in Flandres, Belgium).
Thanks - Google translates Flamengo as Flemish sometimes :) Do you know why the beach is called Flamengo? And is the name of the beach/area the reason why the club is called Flamengo?
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS When the Dutch led by Olivier van Noort lost the war in 1599, they were expelled by the Portuguese. They had to camp in that beach waiting to be rescued by another fleet. The beach had another name (I think it was called Sapocaitoba Beach), but the Portuguese started referring to where the Dutch were as the Flemish's Beach (Praia dos Flamengos). The beach later became Praia do Flamengo (Single, without the “s”). Olivier van Noort was the first Dutchman to circumnavigate the Earth. The Clube de Regatas do Flamengo (Regatta Club, rowing was the most popular sport then) were founded and named after the beach's name, in 17th november 1895. Flamengo had no Soccer team. In 1911, there was an internal disagreement in Fluminense Football Club. Some players talked about changing clubs, while others were even thinking about quitting football. That was when Alberto Borgerth, one of the Fluminense players, proposed to create a football section at Flamengo, where he was already a rower. The idea was approved and, on November 8 of 1911, the Department of Terrestrial Sports was created.
I have a question, what Europeans think about the extinc Intercontinental Cup(Toyota Cup)and Fifa Club World Cup? I am asking that because we Brazilians give a high value to these Competitions.
I've made a video about it - 'Do English fans care about the CWC?th-cam.com/video/ea2ktFoHIp8/w-d-xo.html I also talk about the new proposed CWC in this video... th-cam.com/video/2bu67bN-vw4/w-d-xo.html
The Brazilian National team always has respect. But m I think it is not feared as much as it was. The club teams are not so well-known in the UK as they don’t receive any publicity - no matches are on TV and the league is given no attention in the media (newspapers etc.) I liked Flamengo’s performance v Liverpool and I got more interested in Brazilian football because of that. Until then, the Brazilian teams that I saw at the Club World Cup had all played defensively so it was good to see Flamengo play in a more offensive way.
Tbf with Stevie his career goals were more than 180, the number you looked was probably only his league goals which are shown first in wikipedia for instance. Still an absolutely shocking achievement for a keeper to do that in an excellent football like Brazil's.
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS Great content btw, mate. Wish I had you when I was just learning English, I'm actually a Colombian who wanted to get a briefing of Brazil's big teams, your knowledge is more than impressive and your speech is clear as crystal.
@@matthew4780 I appreciate that mate - I haven’t made a video for a while now but sometimes I talk about Brazilian football with some Brazilians. Your English is incredible - I thought you were a native English speaker. The videos are all there and if someone likes football and wants to improve their English they could help.
A top 20 would be after the 12 biggest would be(in order from best to worst): Athletico Paranaense Bahia Sport Guarani Coritiba Criciúma or Chapecoense Then u can choose between:Paysandu,Sampaio Corrêa,Goiás,Juventude or some team that won the Copa do Brasil
Thanks mate - I found a couple of explanations about ‘po de arroz’. One was about a former black player who used face powder to lighten his face and then the fans started doing it... so I’m not 100% on the origin ✌️⚽️
Just a quick correction, the nickname of "Porco" (pig) of Palmeiras is due to an unfair play they did in 1967. During the dispute of Campeonato Paulista of 1967, two Corinthians players (Lidu and Eduardo) have died on a car crash. The rules of the championship didn't allowed any player to be substituted but an exception could be made if all other teams agreed. All the other 18 teams agreed to it right on time, but Palmeiras prefered to say no, because Corinthians always have been they biggest rivals. From that movement, supporters from all teams started to call them "Espírito de Porco", what can be translated to "pig-spirit", something that can be translated maybe as "wet blanket".
It was a good presentation of the twelve greats, but I found the part that refers to GREMIO to be very short! The club that won the 1983 World Cup, three times the American Cup and that, among other stars, trained and launched Ronaldinho Gaúcho. One hundred and twenty-one years of history, always among the top teams in the rankings. All this, based in a medium-sized city far from the largest economic centers in Brazil.
@@jardelandrepacheco5500 Love the info 👍 Next week I will talk to a Gremio fan on a livestream on the channel about Gremio and the good times and bad times of the club.
Sou de Salvador Bahia e tenho conhecimento com o futebol brasileiro e sobre jogadores famosos de cada clube e títulos importantes então vou ajudar a você
Urubu é por causa de um jogo contra o botafogo, em que o flamengo estava perdendo e no intervalo pousaram alguns urubus no campo, ai no segundo tempo o flamengo virou o jogo e ganhou. Daí o urubu virou o mascote!
Cruzeiro's "FOX"nickname came by the clever way it's directors played their cards. Aways finding great player deals witch brought championships to the club. With that, came fans, recongition and respect from the whole coutry! Cruzeiro is from Minas Gerais, witch at the time was completely outside the "media axis" at the time, and was the first to break that barrier with a 6x2 against the Peles's Santos FC. CRUZEIRO ESPORTE CLUBE!
The history of Vasco da Gama is one of the most beautiful in Brazil. ❤ It fought against racism in football at a time when black people were not accepted, its stadium was built with the help of its fans and the club has the recognition of Portugal to change its name to Real Vasco da Gama if it wants.
THE HISTORY ABOUT " PO DE ARROZ " OF FLUMINENSE IT'S COMPLETELY WRONG, THE FANS USED THE " PO DE ARROZ " BECAUSE ONE OF OUR BLACK PLAYERS WAS SUFFERING WITH RACIST OFFENSES FROM THE OTHER CLUBS FANS, AND HE HAD TU PUT THE FACE POWDER ON HIS SKIN TO LOOK WHITE, SO TO EMBRACE HIM, FLUMINENSE'S FANS STARTED TO THROW THE POWDER, MEANING THAT THEY WHERE NOT ASHAMED OF HIM BEING BLACK, AS THE OTHER TEAMS FANS WAS, AND THEN HE STOPPED TO USE THE POWDER TO FIGHT THE RACISM ALONGSIDE THE FANS
Coritiba is a big club here in the south of the country, but in recent years it has been oscillating between the first and second division. The team is known as "coxa" which means thigh, this is due to the fact that the club came from Germany, and there were many white people in the club and the fans of the rival team "athetico paranaese" were responsible for maliciously nicknamed the players, however the club embraced it as a nickname and is currently the biggest champion of Paraná with 39 titles , 2 series B and 1 series A (and also 2 runners-up in the Copa do Brasil) not to mention the club's great tradition, which has the largest fan base in the state of Paraná, and the Olympic-shaped stadium, unlike many other trendy arenas. Even though it is in the second division of the Brazilian championship, Coritiba will host Brazilian national team games because of the high level of the "Couto Pereira" stadium. Since 1909, bringing strength, determination and tradition even though it is currently an average team, but with a lot of history. 🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬💚💚💚
@@NCarz Incredible info thank you. I know Coritiba is a big city but I’ve never known much about the team. I love how Brazilian teams take insults and embrace them to become their nicknames.
@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS Some people end up getting confused, because the city is written with a "U" Curitiba, while the team, as it has been since 1909, has not changed the spelling and has continued to use the old name of the city with an "O" Coritiba.
So, about the clubs Cruzeiro and Atlético from Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais (MG) the mascots were given during the 40s. One can easily overlook how the rivals mascots can be set in the Greek dichotomy of Intelect (Fox) vs Force (Rooster). Also, that is a preying fight there. I think you treated their part too fast, especially compared to the clubs of Rio and São Paulo, so here more info: 7:19 Cruzeiro was given the Fox (Raposa) as a mascot (and therefore its nickname) by the cartoonist because its president was at the time clever and cunning as a fox. Cruzeiro also has two nicknames, "Zêro", the way "Zeiro" sounds in Minas Gerais accent, and Cabuloso, that means something/someone that imposes fear and dread on people. In everyday life, Cruzeiro fans use Cruzeiro and Cabuloso to refer to the club, while Fox is the visual representation and "Zêro" is more lyrical, used in chants for example. 6:52 Alt-MG* has its nickname "rooster" (galo) given by the cartoonist in 1945 because its president at the time he had a very combative manner, like a fighting cock (cockfighting is not a completely legal practice in Brazil "the spirit of the club". One can for sure say that "Rooster" is the name most of its supporters use when they refer to their team in day to day talks but also visually/imagetically and lyrically (in chants). * Eu sei que vocês atleticanos odeiam que escreva "Alt", porem como procurei ser super imparcial no resto da história, pois achei que o futebol mineiro merecia mais atenção como um todo. Porém, eu tinha que deixar meu clubismo respirar um pouco também né. Engolem o choro e fiquem de boa. Abs, os amo e odeio o seu clube (odeie o pecado, ame o pecador).
Yes I've made a video about the Santos v Flamengo match. Flamengo is a bigger club so I felt they didn't need the distinction that Ronaldinho played for them as much as Atletico Mineiro.
Hey, i'm a brazillian and i have to say something. The "big twelve" aren't a thing, it's more like big 15. Bahia and Sport Recife both have pretty similar fanbase to Fluminense and Botafogo in terms of numbers, Sport having the biggest fanbase of the intire northeast region of Brazil. Also, speaking of titles, Sport has a Brasileirão (1987) and a Copa do Brasil (2008), and Bahia has two Brasileirões, one of them being against the Santos of Pelé. Athletico-PR has a sudamericana, a Copa do Brasil and a Brasileirão. Not even counting Coritiba, which has a big fanbase and was also a champion of the Brasileirão. This comment is just to open your horizons to the brazilian football, because most of the media only talks about the "eixo sul-sudeste", which are the clubs from the south-southeast region of Brazil respectively, and forget about the northeast region's clubs. The term "big 12" was created by the south/southeast region's media journalists and is a vision that exclude the northeast clubs for being relevant. I can rant about this term for hours but i think i will just stop here. Good content tho, keep it up.
Thanks yeah I didn’t really think it was a thing anymore to be honest. ‘Doze Grandes’ was just a nice phrase that I thought I could put in a video. I’m learning more every day about Brazilian football and I now know that Sport and Bahia, as well as a few others, have big fanbases too. In England, there have been similar terms used - now it is ‘the big six’. And it’s always contentious with some fans. Sorry for bringing up a term that’s not used so more ✌️⚽️
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS It's totally understandable for you to have used it though, a lot of brazilians that don't know about the northeast brazilian football (which are a lot of people unfortunately) still use the term. The thing is, the south/southeast media still uses that term and it pisses me off a bit (i'm a Sport Recife fan). I'm glad i could open your eyes to the northeast clubs too! "É nois" ✌️
Brazilian football is the best in terms of actual skill and quality. It's very simple, football in the Brazilian league is played how the street kids of brazil play football when they grow up. Have you ever seen Brazilian kids play in the street? Every single one of them are naturally skilled. They are skilled in every aspect of the game, hence why there always exists world class players at every single position on the pitch from brazil. Every team in the Brazilian Serie-A pretty much only have Brazilian players, opposed to teams in fx. the Premier League, ITA Serie A, Ligue 1, LaLiga, Bundesliga. I believe this is why there are so many amazing goals and highlights from the Brazilian league, even though they are not seen by most people because Brazilian league is not watched alot by non-Brazilian people.
Great video, congratulations. And Vai Corinthians! The biggets in the country in many ways, with more national titles, great international achievements, huge popularity and more passionate fans, with political and social struggles that go beyond the sports barrier.
Wow I didn’t know nothing about Flamengo, bota fogo and so on, because those are clubs from Rio de Janeiro. And im from São Paulo. Thanks for the information.
Let me ask, I am a factory worker who lives in Southeast Asia, I am 22 years old, my position is as a striker, is it possible to play in the Brazilian League? Am I late? It's okay to play in a weak club, the important thing is to be able to play in the Brazilian league,
Brazilians are the best footballers in the world. There are Brazilian footballers all over the world that started playing in the Brazilian league. I think it is being a little optimistic to expect to start playing for a Brazilian league coming from South East Asia.
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Hey man I’m English and love Brazilian league and the shirts but I wondered if you know something about one of my shirts.... my gremio 2012 shirt is unique and unlike any I have found as it has an archer in the chest area and Flecheiro9 on the sleeve, do u know why is this? Thanks for reading and any insight! Also great video.
Hi yes I asked a friend in my Facebook group and it is connected to a player called Marcelo Martins Moreno. He was a Gremio number 9 for a bit and his celebration was to pull an arrow like an archer (Flecheiro). He is more connected to Cruzeiro I think and still plays for them. But I don't know if it was just on that kit or every one... I imagine it is just on the number 9 shirt.
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS hey man thanks for the information! I made a breakthrough and maybe you’d like an update ha ha. So the shirt was called ‘Camisa do Fleichero’ released in November 2012 on a limited run for a Moreno as he had scored 20 goals. The club felt a need to do this as in 2012 Gremio had a bit of an underwhelming season and this was something they felt they could all celebrate and the shirt celebrates his heritage, celebration and himself! Very unique can’t find any online for sale so will be something I will cherish.
Obrigado - I wasn't sure about that! I couldn't find the reason so I just assumed :) There are so many links to sailing/ships in Brazilian football clubs.
The information that +Reinaldo Silva commented is wrong. The origin of the nickname is actually a sports newspaper headline saying that Corinthians was a big team after a match played in the beginning of the 1966 season. Corinthians hadn't won a title since 1954 at that point, so the club spend a lot buying players to that squad, Garrincha for example, but that team failed and didn't win a important title in the end of the season, just a tournament that wasn't so important anymore. So the rivals fans, remembering that headline, started to provoke Corinthians fans about the big team like "so that's the big team, what a joke". The Corinthians fans kinda embraced it. By the way, here's a link telling this story in portuguese www.gazetaesportiva.com/times/corinthians/voce-sabia-apelido-timao-surgiu-na-gazeta-esportiva-com-estreia-de-garrincha/
@@victoralbano97 Ah ok I wasn't sure of the reason... thanks. I Google translated the article... I can't believe they paid a lot of money for Garrincha even though he hadn't played for four years. I like the way that the Brazilian fans take insults and turn them into their nicknames.
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS supposedly the reason that Palmeiras became porco was also an offense by Corinthians fans that we embraced. I know you mentioned that but just to specify a little more 8 months later
What a season for Atletico Mineiro! You must be buzzing 👍 I will make a video about this Brasileirao season - A big 2nd leg next week in the Copa Libertadores 👍
Oh, the Big 12, the absolute trash group that ruined brazilian football. As a Remo supporter I despise almost all of them. They are psrtially responsible for my team currently being in the 3rd tier. Fluminense got itself promoted from the 3rd to the 1st tier while canceling our promotion to Série A just because yes, and both CBF and the 13 Club battled against Remo in the justice to avoid us from playing Série A in 2001
I am atletico mineiro fan and I agree with you. The guy could be showing, at least, 20 big clubs in this video but the G-12 suppress the other. Note that even clubs with tons of fans and history like Bahia is not considered by a lot of people. Athletico PR has been part of successful clubs lately ( they don’t have a large base of fans but they perfectly suit into the club of the big ones.
@@stanleycunha Yes. In my conception there are 23 big clubs in Brazil, with them being: - Flamengo, Vasco, Botafogo and Fluminense - SP, Corinthians, Palmeiras and Santos - Atlético and Cruzeiro - Grêmio and Internacional - Bahia and Vitória - Fortaleza and Ceará - Remo and Paysandu - Sport, Santa Cruz and Náutico - Athletico and Coritiba To me those are the Big23, with the G12 being the national giants, while Fortaleza, Bahia and Athletico are the most successful regional clubs. As you can see, my top 23 is defined by "mass clubs" (clubes de massa, com torcidas de 1 milhão ou mais), which I think is fair enough to represent our demographic. 12 clubs from the Southeast, 4 from the South, 5 from the Northeast and 2 from the North. You could also add Goiás and Vila Nova and make it a Big25 list instead of 23, but the general parameter still remains. When we talk about the G12, we ignore the continental aspect of our country and focus solely on 4 states (RJ, SP, MG and RS) and nowhere else
my favorite team is cruzeiro we are in the 2nd division but i believe we can go back to elite football and our story is like in 2 of january 1921 italian imagrants game to belo horizonte and made the club that was called societa palestra italia but when world war 2 happened our president at the time getulio vargas told every club that they needed to change their name if they had any italian references so palestra italia changed it to cruzeiro cuz of the south constalation and they did it cuz it was on the brazilian flag so they wanted to nationalize and we have 4 campeonatos brasileiros 2 libertadores 6 copas do brasil e 38 campeonatos mineros our rival is atletico mg so we call them frangas that is chicken cuz of their mascot that is a rooster and they call us marias our best year was in 2003 when we got the triplice coroa that is like 3 titles FORCA CRUZEIROOOO BORA CABAR COM O MEQUINHA
Yes I know Cruzeiro have fallen on hard times. I think in the video I talk about Palmeiras needing to change their name because they originally had an Axis power in their name - but I read about Cruzeiro doing the same too.
just a note... corinthians' nickname is 'timão' not because it means 'big team' in Portuguese... but because its symbol is a ship helm.. whose translation to Portuguese is 'timão'.
I would like to help you with more accurate or kind of extra info about the clubs here. Doze = In Portuguese, the zeta is like in English, not like in Spanish where z = s. Don't worry, you don't have no speak Portuguese. Fluminense [Floo.mee.nein.see] Maybe "Pó de arroz' is an old nickname. Here in Rio you say Flu, Fluminense and sometimes Tricolor. I honestly had never heard "Pó de arroz". Flamengo. The black vulture (urubu) is the mascot, rarely used as a nickname, only when you're joking, making a pun or mocking. We hardly ever refer to Flamengo as urubu. It's normally Flamengo, Mengão (if you're a fan), sometimes Fla. BTW, FLA-FLU is a derby. It's Flamengo vs Fluminense. The adversary supporters refer to Flamengo fans as "mulambos". Botafogo. Fogão is used by their fans. Lonely star is used only by TV commentors. Botafogo = set fire Vasco. Their fans call it "Vascão". Cruzmaltino is an adjective, so TV commentors say "O time cruzmaltino" or "O time da cruz de malta" = the Maltese Cross Team. Corinthians is also called Timão. That's correct. However, "timão" happens to be the same word for the steering wheel you find in ships. That's the true meaning. Palmeiras. All correct. But TV guys never say "porco", only fans commonly during chants. São Paulo. Referred by TV guys as "Tricolor paulista" (It's in their official anthem). São Paulo as well as Fluminense is called by rivals as gay clubs. Idk why. It's just a joke. No homophobic stuff. Santos is called Peixe (Fish). That's all correct. Atlético Mineiro. The nickname Galo is very used by everyone. Cruzeiro's nickname is Raposa (Fox) but you don't hear people say Raposa. Grêmio. Nothing to add. Internacional, it's normally called Inter. We know that Colorado is their nickname but we don't refer to the team as such. If you're a supporter, you'll probably refer to yourself as: 1. Fluminense. Tricolor/Fluminense/Fluzão 2. Flamengoo. Flamenguista/Flamengo/ Mengão/Fla/Rubro-negro (red-black) 3. Botafogo. Fogão/Botafogo/botafoguense 4. Vasco. Vascaíno/Vasco/vascão/Cruzmaltino (rare) 5. Corinthians. Corinthians/corintiano/coringão 6. Palmeiras. Palmeirense/Palmeiras/Verdão 7 São Paulo. São Paulino/São Paulo (Bambi the deer by rivals cuz deer is slang for queer). 8. Santos. Santista/Santos/peixe 9. Atlético Mineiro. Galo/Atlético/Atleticano 10. Cruzeiro. Cruzeirense/Cruzeiro. 11. Grêmio. Grêmio/gremista 12. International. Colorado/Inter/Colorado Here, you don't say "I'm a Liverpool fan", you'd say (in Portuguese, of course), "I'm Liverpool, I'm liverpudlian, I'm Reds" without an infinite article. Well, I know it's a lot of information. That's my contribution. I hope it's useful. All the best!!
@@andersonporto1865 um time que só tem 2 campeonatos brasileiros e não tem copa do Brasil e nem chegou em uma final de libertadores como essa merda é considerada grande?
@@danilodeandrade808 Teria Copa do Brasil se não fosse roubada. Agora vc me pergunta: -Como o Flamengo não é considerado o clube mais filha da puta do mundo, 1981 foi o maior roubo da história do futebol, até os Ingleses concordam comigo, e isso ainda levou eles a ganharem o mundial, se não fosse o seu salvador José Roberto Wright, certamente o clube taria na merda e mesmo se não tivesse na merda, não seria tão grande quanto é agora -Como o Fluminense tem uma história melhor que o Botafogo? o Fluminense não foi rebaixado por causa que eles não podiam jogar a série B, eles foram de Série C pra Série A, enquanto isso, o Botafogo tem os melhores Ídolos do Rio de Janeiro, tem o recorde de mais jogadores que foram convocados pra seleção, e levaram uma Copa INTEIRA para o Brasil, só roubaram em 1995, mas ninguém fala sobre o roubo da Copa do Brasil -O Vasco tá uma merda, é isso que acontece quando o time não é favorecido pelos árbitros, única coisa que eles tem pra se orgulhar na história deles é uma Libertadores e uma coisa que não é nem relacionada a futebol(primeiro clube a permitir que os jogadores negros entrassem pelo clube, mesmo se os torcedores usavam insultos racistas contra a torcida do Flamengo) A única razão do porque o Botafogo não tem Libertadores ou não chegou na final, é por causa apenas o vencedor podia disputar a Libertadores, não os quatro primeiros, o Flamengo conquistou as duas Libertadores desse jeito, não sendo campeão em 2018 ou 2021, O Fluminense também conquistou a sua primeira Libertadores assim
O nome do estádio do botafogo é Nilton Santos o primeiro clube brasileiro a ser fundado e ele foi o único que tem vários jogadores no Hall da fama da FIFA com 3 jogadores garrincha Nilton Santos e jairzinho e é o que ajudou a seleção brasileira a ser tri campeão do mundo em 1958 1962 e 1970 e também o botafogo é o clube no Brasil que tem inúmeros recorde até hoje insuperáveis
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS veja sobre o Bahia também eu torço para 2 clubes no Brasil Bahia e botafogo mais a torcida dos 2 clubes são magníficas com seus mosaicos assim como o mosaico da torcida do Fortaleza e Ceará vale a pena vc também conferir o futebol brasileiro dos clubes do nordeste não são muito falado pela imprensa do sudeste e do Sul do Brasil por isso vocês não conhece tanto, mais o futebol do nordeste tem o melhor campeonato regional do Brasil conhecido como lampions liga mais é chamado de copa do nordeste! th-cam.com/video/iq0YT01j4Ps/w-d-xo.html
Actually, Flamengo was a aristocratic club too. Botafogo, Fluminense, Flamengo and America were the rich teams, the clubs of white people. Vasco da Gama was the first club to be champion with black and poor people. The nickname "urubu" came decades later, and yes, it came from racism, cause the club chenged its audience.
Yes I don't think racism, or even challenging racism, was particular to one club but I like the way Vasco da Gama are known for championing black and poor people.
The video was really well done with lots of rich information about the clubs. However the Fluminense story is wrong. Fluminense was playing against América, a Rio club, and one of Fluminense´s players was a black man called Carlos Alberto, who used to play in America. As an insult, America fans started to call him "pó de arroz" because there was a rumor that he used to use face powder in his face after he shaved. As an answer, Fluminense fans started to use the face powder as a symbol of the club. And to assign the "urubu" racist meaning only to Fluminense is completely wrong and out of the reality. All the rivals did the same. And as all football crowds, Fluminense has some disrespectful fans, of course. Nowadays, some rivals make homophobic insults to Fluminense fans. But as I said, this is not the major part of Flamengo or Vasco fans. This is the minority that is also disrespectful. So I think it's unfair to assign this only to Fluminense as the institution is racist or something...
Yes I’m sorry it is unfair on Fluminense. I like Fluminense as a club but at the time I read a few explanations about ‘po de arroz’ (I say that in the video). The one I thought was more plausible was the one I said but I could be wrong - I apologise (I will pin 📌 your comment). I read ‘Urubu’ came from rival Fluminense fans but I know it is not all fans and it was a long time ago. I love the way Brazilian fans take insults and make them positive e.g. ‘peixe’ with Santos... so ‘po de arroz’ may have come from the initial insult from America.
I know that Brazilian fans use homophobic chants and insults for rival fans too - São Paulo, and Cruzeiro being examples. Again I’m sorry for painting a bad picture of Fluminense in this video. ✌️⚽️
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS I know it's not your fault, but the misinformation about Fluminense is terrible, mainly due to the biased Brazilian media, which creates narratives based on false information and perpetuates the lie as if it were true.
medium.com/@FluminenseFC/o-clube-mais-democr%C3%A1tico-do-brasil-9cb9a4b08b18
@@FelipeCarreiro I cannot even find the information I read at the time! But I think that the information relating to the America incident is probably the truth now. I am sorry and I have pinned this comment in the hope that people see it.
Kkkkk ala tentando se justificar
Man kkkk todo tricolor chama Flamenguista de mulambo/urubu kkkk
As a Brazilian im very impressed with your knowledge over Brazilian football. Congrats mate!
Thanks - It is an under-appreciated league by football fans in Europe.
He got a few wrongs , like the colors of SP the meaning of timao just to start with .
@@ressnar he is an outsider even with a few mistakes is impressive How much knowledge he has over Brazilian football.
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This comment made me watch the video
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I love Brazilian football too. I'm going to be talking about the Brasileirao regularly next season.
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Eu nao acredito....
Eu entendi a maior parte da esplicação, sem precisar de legenda...
Tou feliz demais esse era meu obstaculo: entender!!!
Claro vou continuar me aperfeicoando ainda mais.
I'm happy for you. Football is a good topic for learning and practising English.
Aprenda escrever a língua nativa também faz parte.
Depois de um tempo vai ficando cada vez mais facil.
The English might have made football popular but the Brazilians made it Jogo Bonito! A beautiful country with a mixture of beautiful human races who are so passionate about this game. Saludaçoes!
@marcos farias Nada a ver kkkkkkkkkkkkk dizer que os ingleses são mais fanáticos por futebol que os brasileiros é um absurdo
Ele disse "made it popular" e ele ta certo, o resto do Mundo conhece Futebol primero pela premier League depois La Liga e os outros campeonatoa europeus. Ninguém conhece os times brasileiros so conhecem a seleção. Sua interpretation was wrong @@arthurioscavieromatoseferr9936
And you are always very welcome to come and visit us ❤
Thank you, and pronounce it "Saudações"
VASCO! The first Brazilian Club to open the doors to the black and working class players!
Yeah it’s a nice thing to be famous for 👍
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have fun down my friend 😂 🖤❤️🖤❤️🖤
In Rio, Bangu was the pioneer and Fluminense also have black players in the 1910's decade:
medium.com/@FluminenseFC/o-clube-mais-democr%C3%A1tico-do-brasil-9cb9a4b08b18
@@maddixb n adianta ter Bruno Henrique mas nn ter estádioo. Buaaa🏐
Palmeiras' nickname "pig" came from a mess in a state championship, Corinthians had 2 players deads, if I'm not mistaken it was due to an accident, so there was a vote for Corinthians to write 2 more players, all the teams accepted except the palmeiras, so the president of Corinthians that year gave the nickname to Palmeiras "pig spirit", the palmeiras fans decided to adopt this nickname.
I have read an article about that. Great info.
não adianta reescrever a história.
Palmeiras era chamado de porco desde décadas antes deste episódio.
isso porque italianos no brasil comiam bastante polenta, algo que os outros paulistas viam como comida de porco. por isso o apelido.
3:25 just to add, Pelé said Vasco has the most beautiful story in football. To explain, the only way for them to get back into the league other than disposing the black players was by getting a stadium, which they couldnt finance, so the fans themselves helped finance AND build what was then the biggest stadium in south america, the "São Januário". Thus why Pelé named Vasco as the club with the most beautiful story in football.
Fluminense means "native of the river" - Rio de Janeiro" Flumen is the Latin word for Rio and the Latin ending "ense" means the place where you are from.
Flamengo started out as a rowing club. Flamengo is the old Portuguese word for Dutch. The explanation is that the club is located on a beach called "Praia do Flamengo". And this beach has that name because in the 17th century, Dutch invaders were killed by the Portuguese and Indian allies and left on this beach.
Botafogo means to set fire to something. It was also a rowing club and its name is inspired by a powerful Portuguese ship, which literally "set fire" to opposing ships in the colonial era.
Vasco da Gama, as the name says, is the name of the great Portuguese navigator, the first to arrive in the Indies in the 15th century. It was also a rowing club, basically a club from the great Portuguese colony that lived in Rio de Janeiro.
São Pualo and Palmeiras were cubes of the Italian and German colonies, respectively. Palmeiras was called Palestra Italia, which meant "Academia Italia" and São Paulo was called Germania. They had to change their name when Brazil entered the Second World War, on the side of the allies.
São Paulo was founded in 1930 by the fusion of AA das Palmeiras and Paulistano, it was never germania.
Cruzeiro also was called Palestra Itália once
Ohhh my.... you explained very well, including the nicknames of the teams and particularies of them as well. As a brazilian and a Corinthians fan, I congratulate you bro. Salutes from São Paulo - Brazil.
I know Brazilians are very knowledgeable so I really appreciate the comment 👍 I love so many things about the league - the history, the skill and determination of the players, the rivalries, the tradition and even the kits.
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS that's very rare an english or a european to get interested in our league, our history, traditions, rivalries, that's really nice. Count with me if you have some doubts or curiosities about our soccer. I live in São Paulo and off course I'm a Corinthians fan, if you need some information about anything, count with me, that's will be a pleasure to be usefull for someone who is so far. I'm sorry by my poor english.
@@richardprado5914 It's a shame it's not broadcasted in the UK - we get the Australian league!!! Thank you - I appreciate the offer. My next video is about this season's Brasileirao :) I think my pronunciation of some of the teams and players is wrong! I'll post it later.
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS be confortable to ask me something if you need. Do you live in England or another country in UK ??
@@richardprado5914 Thank you - I live in England. I just posted the video about the Brasileirao - maybe you disagree with my choices :)
Cruzeiro also was named Palestra Italia and had to change so it wouldn't display a enemy name during ww2
Great video, lots of things that i didn't knew before it
Curiosity: "timão", the nickname of Corinthians, is a pun on a big team (timão) and timon (too timão) due to the connection between the club and the seas
Thanks - I thought there could be something else. 'Big Team' doesn't really say enough.
Well done! Came here to clarify that. This is the original reason why, and not "big team"... cuz we all know that's not the truth 😉
@@otaviomarques6299 actually was, when Garrincha assigned to play for Corithians in 1966, the the press said they were forming a 'Timão", so the name stuck on.
Corinthians não nasceu como clube de remos. Nasceu como um clube de futebol de operários. Por esse viés popular o clube tinha projetos poliesportivos e o remo passou a ser praticado depois. Um jogador de futebol do Corinthians pintou na sede uma homenagem aos esportes náuticos que haviam sido implantados no clube, pintando pás, remos e âncoras que compõem o escudo atual. Essa imagem ficou por anos na sede quando passou a ser utilizada pelo clube nas partidas de futebol.
Congratulation! It's a great idea to teach English like this. Thanks to show me your TH-cam Channel from OOE answer.👍 You really know about our Brazilian clubs.
perfeita explicação, incluindo a explicação correta sobre o apelido de "porco" do Palmeiras que era preconceito contra a colônia italiana que sempre foi chamada pelos adversários de "porcos fascistas" na década de 1940. Diferente do que a mídia brasileira tenta esconder!
Thanks for the comment. Parece haver diferentes razões para alguns apelidos. Decidi escolher a explicação que considerava verdadeira.
I learned from your videos a lot of things.nice videos
thank you very much for helping to promote our teams and our league. it is a pity that you English football lovers do not know one of the most disputed leagues in the world so much. and seriously, São Paulo is giant, has a lot of history .. even a Japanese soccer anime mentions our tricolor, being the team that the character plays coming to Brazil.
I think Europeans in general don’t know much about Brazilian club football. The sound in the São Paulo part changed slightly sorry. I’ve just made a quiz for people in my Facebook group about Brazilian club football.
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS I liked the video, there’s only one detail about the colors of São Paulo. they don't mean anything, they are just the colors of the two teams that founded the same. maybe you could have said that we are the most winning team in our country, the third biggest fan, but the video was very good. when it comes to knowing our league, i believe that in spain and portugal they know a little more about our football. good luck with your channel.
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS a question, are you a fan of liverpool or everton
@@jp3667 Yes I imagine Spain and Portugal know more about Brazilian football. Yes I mention that Sao Paulo have appeared in the Copa Libertadores final the most in my quiz on Facebook. Thank you for the info about the colours of the kit. I read about the Tricolour representing the races on Wikipedia but I doubted it to be honest... I just thought it was a nice idea and mentioned it in the video. Maybe someone interpreted the colours like that at a later date.
J P I’m a Liverpool fan... and I remember watching the 2005 CWC final. I speak about it a little in another video ✌️
Meus parabéns pelo vídeo, gostei muito! Você tem a didática muito boa! é interessante a forma como você explica e o conhecimento que tem sobre os clubes brasileiros. Keep going, mate :)
Cheers mate thanks - I'm really enjoying watching the Brasileirao this season.
respect from São Paulo FC Fan!
nowadays there are 13 big clubs in Brazil, you've forgot Atlético Paranaense.
Yes you could argue that Sport and Bahia are big clubs too. 'Doze Grandes' was just a phrase I thought I could use in a video :)
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS in fact, Sport and Bahia are way far to reach the Doze Grandes. Atlético are bigger then Botafogo.
I'd say that Athletico-PR, Sport and Bahia are of the same size, but right now Athletico-PR is in a better moment.
Coritiba is also there, but it's been quite some time since they had a convincing team. Maybe one day Athletico-PR will be considered a big club, they are surely on the right path and Botafogo, Vasco and Fluminense need to get back on track immediately.
@@thestone2009 tá me zuando né? O Bahia é bicampeão brasileiro, e o primeiro campeão nacional. Respeitem o futebol nordestino.
@@Guilherme-wh7mc E daí mano? Botafogo também é bi brasileiro e é minusculo.
Respeito o futebol do nordeste, mas não coloca-lo no nível de times como São Paulo, Flamengo e Santos, não quer dizer menosprezar.
Uma curiosidade:
O Fluminense é o único clube de futebol do Mundo que possui a Taça Pierre de Coubertin (ou Taça Olímpica),é uma honraria outorgada pelo COI,considerada o prêmio Nobel do esporte mundial.
O Fluminense recebeu tal honraria em 1949.
Obrigado - isso é interessante. Você sabe por que foi concedido ao Fluminense?
Para receber tal honraria, o pleiteador deve ser exemplo de organização administrativa e um vitorioso nos setores esportivos, sociais, artísticos e cívicos. Um complexo de perfeição durante um ano inteiro, e escolhido como o melhor dentre os demais clubes, instituições esportivas e mesmo países do mundo, através de suas federações.
Ela foi concedida ao Fluminense em 1949,pelo então presidente da FIFA Jules Rimet.
O Fluminense no começo do século passado era um exemplo de agremiação esportiva,foi pioneiro no futebol do Rio de Janeiro,o mito da seleção brasileira começou nas Laranjeiras(casa do Fluminense),aliás não só o Futebol...O Fluminense contribui decisivo para o esporte nacional,como por exemplo,a primeira medalha olímpica que o Brasil ganhou foi de um atleta do Fluminense (Afrânio da costa).
"O Fluminense é a agremiação esportiva mais perfeita do Mundo"
- Jules Rimet
Tenho orgulho de ser FLUZÃO ❤️💚
E o único clube da elite brasileira a cair pra série C, parabéns
@@alvarojose1562 hahah isso diminui a história do clube né? Quanto maior o clube, maior a queda. Juventus já caiu pra série C tbm.
São Paulo FC has the third largest crowd in Brazil, in addition to being the club in Brazil with the most international titles (12), 3 World Championships and 3 Libertadores de America (Libertation of South America) , thus it is considered the biggest Brazilian club. 🇾🇪
Great video, I'm looking to start a Pes 2021 master league with a Brazilian team to learn more about it. Very helpful
choose Flamengo, trust me!
@@sanmishiana Hmm I'll check them out, I was thinking Vasco Da Gama as their history is pretty interesting! I don't want a side too strong...
Are Fluminese strong?
@@krioboy8104 In Brazil league, there's no top team. Well, today is Flamengo, he is pretty far from the other teams in South America. But in the history, it's kind different from Europe, cause 10,12,14 teams in the division have great time, moments and was pretty strong, like Flamengo who defeat easily Liverpool in 81, 3x0. Or Internacional defeating Ronaldinho Barcelona, Santos from Pelé was pretty far from the teams of any side of the world in their time, also Botafogo. I wanna mean, its not like Germany with 2 teams, Spain with 3 teams, in Brazil is 10,12,13 teams that can appears in top. Fluminense could be a good choice, today he is not a good team, but he can make great matches with anyone. The strongest teams today. Flamengo, Palmeiras, Atlético Mineiro, Intenacional, São Paulo. Other teams that might be some trouble, Fluminense, Santos, Grêmio, Corinthians, Atlético Paranaense and Vasco. And teams fighting to stay. Goias, Sport, Bahia, Atlético Goianiense, Ceará and Fortaleza.
@@krioboy8104 is a championship really balanced, almost every year, we see a legendary team falling to the second division, in the last season was Cruzeiro, first time in the team history, Chapecoense also was a good team that falls. Vasco falls 3 times, Fluminense 2. Eberything can happen.
@@sanmishiana wow thanks for the info! Very interesting
Foi uma boa apresentação dos doze grandes, mas achei muito curta a parte que se refere ao GREMIO! O clube campeão mundial de 1983, três vezes campeão da América e que, entre outros craques, formou e lançou o Ronaldinho Gaúcho. Cento e vinte e um anos de história, sempre entre os primeiro do ranking. Isso tudo, sediado numa cidade de porte médio e longe dos maiores centros econômicos do Brasil.
That’s true content mate. Keep going. Amazing !
Thanks for taking a look 👍 I appreciate the comment. I’m not sure about the Fluminense explanation now - I think ‘po de arroz’ probably originated in a different way ✌️⚽️
as brazilian I love the effort, nice video❤🇧🇷
Aaaaargh I got the first team wrong! It’s Fluminense not Fluminese... I’ve been saying it wrong all my life!
th-cam.com/video/FbOx7nTpYiQ/w-d-xo.html esse link é importante para você perceber que não pode esquecer de falar do esporte clube Bahia a gente é o único clube no Brasil a fazer um carnaval antes do clube entrar em campo!!!
th-cam.com/video/KqzjPtlNk0I/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/uvTw6Vopf1c/w-d-xo.html mosaico lindo no estádio arena fonte nova na final da copa do nordeste 2018 a maior competição regional do Brasil
Anderson Porto o Bahia não é um dos 12 maiores do Brasil, provavelmente é o 14 ou 13
@@andersonporto1865 não é não
Thank the information
Thank you very much for the explanation. Im South African i love Sao Paolo
Very good video, i'm Brazilian and congratulations dude, vamos São Paulo!🔴⚪⚫
Thanks for watching. I really enjoyed the Brasileirao last season. Sao Paulo had a good chance to win it at one point.
Mengooo
Nice video, lad
Some cool explanation bout our fooball clubs.
Also pretty interesting channel. Got a new sub
Ta lad :)
Thanks so much for this vídeo!
Cruzeiro's was nickname "the fox" prior to the cartoonist story. In fact, the team was nicknamed by a journalist, who said that the club's president was "smart as a fox" for the way he acted in the transfer market at the time. The cartoonist just depicted the nee mascot.
Thank you - I thought the story about the cartoonist seemed a little far-fetched when I read it.
Same with Atlético, it was compared to a local black and white rooster which was winning every fight. But the cartoonist, the great Mangabeira, did help solidify and popularize both mascots.
Vasco is also named the Hill Giant
Very cool video. Just so you know... Clube Atlético Mineiro was named Galo because of its fighting ability and determination. This reason led to comparisons with the cockfights that existed at the time. One of the most notable players in the history of Galo was called Zé do Monte and had the habit of always entering with the team mascot under his arm.
neymar played for santos aswell.
Yeah Santos have produced so many great players - Diego, Felipe Anderson, Alex Sandro, Gabigol, Rodrygo etc... and those are just some of the ones playing now!
also pele and this was bob marley fav team
Awesome short and to the point video on Brazilian Football. If I remember correctly it used to be called Clube do 13. They had all the potential to create a Premier like league but corrupt politics & media moguls snuffed that possibility. Now you have a league who doesn't now how to use VAR technology.
My favorite teams from Brazil:
1. SC Corinthians
2. Timao
3. SCCP
🐖 🚫🌎
So you support Corinthians :) Yeah it's a shame the league isn't shown more around the world. We get coverage of the Australian and American leagues but not the Brazilian?!?!
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS From my observations, it's the CBF which limits Brazilian clubs' growth overseas.
@@axxessmundi A highlights show once a week and a live match would be watched by millions in the UK alone. It makes sense for clubs or the Brasileirão to work together to create TV packages to sell to the world but I know it can be 'complicated'. I hope it happens but I'm not sure it will in the near future.
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS I highly doubt it. Brazilian business mentality is a, no offense to Brazilians, generation behind at minimum. Brazil produces more talent in football than any other nation but they sell players for absurdly prices. I can list countless examples up until the 80s to this month.
Let's say Apple, highest market cap company, sold IPhones, IPad & MACs a 1/3 their price.... That's Brazilian football in my opinion.
Muito bom o seu canal,estou acompanhando e estou gostando muito,eu estava procurando por isso,amo futebol e amo aprender novos idiomas.
Parabéns
Eu realmente aprecio o comentário obrigado. Estou feliz que você ache isso útil. O campeonato brasileiro deve ganhar mais exposição na Europa.
In Portuguese, the term "Timão" refers to the device used to steer a ship, which is known in English as "helm." The "timão" controls the rudder, and by adjusting it, the ship's course is changed. So, "Timão" is the Portuguese word for what is called the "helm" in English.
Nice video!
Most nicknames mentioned are actually the team's mascots. I believe only Atlético Mineiro is called "Galo" (rooster). Maaaybe some fans call Santos "peixe", but not to the same degree.
Vai Corinthians! 2x World Champion - 2000 'n 2012 (in this year agaisnt Chelsea). Ronaldo played here (2009/2010) - Timao, o time do povo!!! Congrats man!
Cassio's performance in that final was incredible. It's good to see him still performing well in the Brasileirao this season.
@Matheus Henrique Rozante Rozante Sim, parece que ele tem um ou dois erros, mas seu tamanho gigante tem impedido muitos gols ao longo dos anos
Excelente vídeo! Parabéns e sucesso
Abraços do Tricolor do Morumbi
Awesome video! Grants buddy
You overlooked the way São Paulo decided their colours. Your explanations isn’t wrong on the São Paulo state flag, but the team became what it is by combining two teams: athletic and another Associação das Palmeiras. One of the teams was red and white and the other was black and white. Thus, their colours and the disposition on the shirt.
Thank you 👍 I’ve always thought the explanation about the state flag and the different nationalities wasn’t correct. Your explanation makes much more sense.
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS your explanation is actually correct, but it is from another club in Brazil, Santa Cruz, it was founded before São Paulo and has the same colors, as it has been in a financial crisis since the 2000s it has not appeared as much in the elite of the club Brazilian football, but it is still one of the 20 biggest fans in the country
Muito bommm.. ótimo vídeo
Since Brazil's history, we have received many emigrants from Europe, many of them founders of clubs such as Germans from Curitiba and Italians from Palmeiras and Cruzeiro. like the Portuguese from Vasco Gama and the Portuguese, in Argentina the same thing happened club Boca Junior has roots from Sweden
Hello mate, i heard that you´re a Liverpool fan. In your opinion, what do you and Liverpool fans thinks about Leeds United and Nottingham Forest, there is a rivalry beetwen Liverpool and these two clubs or not ?
I´m a Palmeiras fan since child and i watch PL since 2007, i really like Man united because of Sir Alex team in the past, but i do the same with Liverpool of Rafa Benitez and nowadays of Klopp, despite the rivalry of these two giants, they are my favorite clubs in England.
Good luck with the channel mate, we, brazilians aprecciates so much your efforts!!
Thank you (sorry for the late reply). There used to be a rivalry between Leeds and Liverpool (70s) but not so much now. The Leeds team of the 70s was considered a 'dirty' but good team with great players so a rivalry between the good Liverpool teams of the 70s developed. Now, there isn't really a rivalry - I think we bond over the shared dislike of Man United :) Leeds are a big northern club so there's a bit of rivalry in that sense - but nothing much. Nottingham Forest are in the Championship so there isn't any rivalry now and there has never been much historically too. When Forest had a good team in the early 80s, there was a rivalry because they were Liverpool's main competitors but not so much... and hardly any now. Liverpool and Manchester United are the two biggest clubs in England, in terms of success and fanbases.
CORINTHIANS I LOVE YOU ❤️😍⚫⚪
Palmeiras is frequently made fun of not having a Intercontinental or Club World Cup. Their fans say that they won the Copa Rio in 1951 that was considered the club world cup for some
I suppose it's something that the other clubs have over Palmeiras. A big match vs Sao Paulo tomorrow :)
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS 3 x 0 💪🏻🐷
Memes Yeah congratulations 👏 I’ve seen the celebrations in the street 🎉
In the state of São Paulo in Brazil there are four major clubs, with the biggest fans being Corinthians followed by São Paulo, Palmeiras and Santos ... The four are considered rivals ...
I've never been and I can't even imagine the sheer size of Sao Paulo. Are different areas within the city associated with different teams? I know Santos is on the outskirts of the city close to the coast.
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS Sim Yes in this case Santos is the only club with its headquarters outside the city but it is in the same state that is also called são paulo. In the city alone there are more than 12 million inhabitants. Sorry for the mistakes, I'm using the translator.
2:25 You see on the map Flamengo beach next Botafogo beach? Its where Flamengo's Club were born. The word Flamengo means Flemish (people that are born in Flandres, Belgium).
Thanks - Google translates Flamengo as Flemish sometimes :) Do you know why the beach is called Flamengo? And is the name of the beach/area the reason why the club is called Flamengo?
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS When the Dutch led by Olivier van Noort lost the war in 1599, they were expelled by the Portuguese. They had to camp in that beach waiting to be rescued by another fleet.
The beach had another name (I think it was called Sapocaitoba Beach), but the Portuguese started referring to where the Dutch were as the Flemish's Beach (Praia dos Flamengos).
The beach later became Praia do Flamengo (Single, without the “s”).
Olivier van Noort was the first Dutchman to circumnavigate the Earth.
The Clube de Regatas do Flamengo (Regatta Club, rowing was the most popular sport then) were founded and named after the beach's name, in 17th november 1895. Flamengo had no Soccer team.
In 1911, there was an internal disagreement in Fluminense Football Club. Some players talked about changing clubs, while others were even thinking about quitting football. That was when Alberto Borgerth, one of the Fluminense players, proposed to create a football section at Flamengo, where he was already a rower. The idea was approved and, on November 8 of 1911, the Department of Terrestrial Sports was created.
I have a question, what Europeans think about the extinc Intercontinental Cup(Toyota Cup)and Fifa Club World Cup? I am asking that because we Brazilians give a high value to these Competitions.
I've made a video about it - 'Do English fans care about the CWC?th-cam.com/video/ea2ktFoHIp8/w-d-xo.html I also talk about the new proposed CWC in this video... th-cam.com/video/2bu67bN-vw4/w-d-xo.html
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS thanks man, I will check out.
A question. Do you know any Brazilian team in Europe? Which gained repercussions? And how is the Brazilian team viewed? If you can answer, thank you.
The Brazilian National team always has respect. But m I think it is not feared as much as it was. The club teams are not so well-known in the UK as they don’t receive any publicity - no matches are on TV and the league is given no attention in the media (newspapers etc.) I liked Flamengo’s performance v Liverpool and I got more interested in Brazilian football because of that. Until then, the Brazilian teams that I saw at the Club World Cup had all played defensively so it was good to see Flamengo play in a more offensive way.
This video is very good
Tbf with Stevie his career goals were more than 180, the number you looked was probably only his league goals which are shown first in wikipedia for instance. Still an absolutely shocking achievement for a keeper to do that in an excellent football like Brazil's.
Yes spot on mate - Gerrard has more than what I said in this video 👍
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS Great content btw, mate. Wish I had you when I was just learning English, I'm actually a Colombian who wanted to get a briefing of Brazil's big teams, your knowledge is more than impressive and your speech is clear as crystal.
@@matthew4780 I appreciate that mate - I haven’t made a video for a while now but sometimes I talk about Brazilian football with some Brazilians. Your English is incredible - I thought you were a native English speaker. The videos are all there and if someone likes football and wants to improve their English they could help.
A top 20 would be after the 12 biggest would be(in order from best to worst):
Athletico Paranaense
Bahia
Sport
Guarani
Coritiba
Criciúma or Chapecoense
Then u can choose between:Paysandu,Sampaio Corrêa,Goiás,Juventude or some team that won the Copa do Brasil
Thanks - Bragantino are doing well too.
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS yeah but they arent giant
great explanations and pronunciation of portuguese.
As a Brazilian I never listen about "Pó de Arroz", really interesting
Thanks mate - I found a couple of explanations about ‘po de arroz’. One was about a former black player who used face powder to lighten his face and then the fans started doing it... so I’m not 100% on the origin ✌️⚽️
Fluminense❤️💚⚪
Isso aí
Just a quick correction, the nickname of "Porco" (pig) of Palmeiras is due to an unfair play they did in 1967.
During the dispute of Campeonato Paulista of 1967, two Corinthians players (Lidu and Eduardo) have died on a car crash. The rules of the championship didn't allowed any player to be substituted but an exception could be made if all other teams agreed. All the other 18 teams agreed to it right on time, but Palmeiras prefered to say no, because Corinthians always have been they biggest rivals.
From that movement, supporters from all teams started to call them "Espírito de Porco", what can be translated to "pig-spirit", something that can be translated maybe as "wet blanket".
It was a good presentation of the twelve greats, but I found the part that refers to GREMIO to be very short! The club that won the 1983 World Cup, three times the American Cup and that, among other stars, trained and launched Ronaldinho Gaúcho. One hundred and twenty-one years of history, always among the top teams in the rankings. All this, based in a medium-sized city far from the largest economic centers in Brazil.
@@jardelandrepacheco5500 Love the info 👍 Next week I will talk to a Gremio fan on a livestream on the channel about Gremio and the good times and bad times of the club.
Sou de Salvador Bahia e tenho conhecimento com o futebol brasileiro e sobre jogadores famosos de cada clube e títulos importantes então vou ajudar a você
Urubu é por causa de um jogo contra o botafogo, em que o flamengo estava perdendo e no intervalo pousaram alguns urubus no campo, ai no segundo tempo o flamengo virou o jogo e ganhou. Daí o urubu virou o mascote!
Great information thank you.
VASCO DA GAMA!
Sempre ser vascao
Cruzeiro's "FOX"nickname came by the clever way it's directors played their cards.
Aways finding great player deals witch brought championships to the club.
With that, came fans, recongition and respect from the whole coutry!
Cruzeiro is from Minas Gerais, witch at the time was completely outside the "media axis" at the time, and was the first to break that barrier with a 6x2 against the Peles's Santos FC.
CRUZEIRO ESPORTE CLUBE!
@@diegorvisintin great info thanks
The history of Vasco da Gama is one of the most beautiful in Brazil. ❤ It fought against racism in football at a time when black people were not accepted, its stadium was built with the help of its fans and the club has the recognition of Portugal to change its name to Real Vasco da Gama if it wants.
THE HISTORY ABOUT " PO DE ARROZ " OF FLUMINENSE IT'S COMPLETELY WRONG, THE FANS USED THE " PO DE ARROZ " BECAUSE ONE OF OUR BLACK PLAYERS WAS SUFFERING WITH RACIST OFFENSES FROM THE OTHER CLUBS FANS, AND HE HAD TU PUT THE FACE POWDER ON HIS SKIN TO LOOK WHITE, SO TO EMBRACE HIM, FLUMINENSE'S FANS STARTED TO THROW THE POWDER, MEANING THAT THEY WHERE NOT ASHAMED OF HIM BEING BLACK, AS THE OTHER TEAMS FANS WAS, AND THEN HE STOPPED TO USE THE POWDER TO FIGHT THE RACISM ALONGSIDE THE FANS
Coritiba is a big club here in the south of the country, but in recent years it has been oscillating between the first and second division. The team is known as "coxa" which means thigh, this is due to the fact that the club came from Germany, and there were many white people in the club and the fans of the rival team "athetico paranaese" were responsible for maliciously nicknamed the players, however the club embraced it as a nickname and is currently the biggest champion of Paraná with 39 titles , 2 series B and 1 series A (and also 2 runners-up in the Copa do Brasil) not to mention the club's great tradition, which has the largest fan base in the state of Paraná, and the Olympic-shaped stadium, unlike many other trendy arenas. Even though it is in the second division of the Brazilian championship, Coritiba will host Brazilian national team games because of the high level of the "Couto Pereira" stadium.
Since 1909, bringing strength, determination and tradition even though it is currently an average team, but with a lot of history. 🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬💚💚💚
@@NCarz Incredible info thank you. I know Coritiba is a big city but I’ve never known much about the team. I love how Brazilian teams take insults and embrace them to become their nicknames.
@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS Some people end up getting confused, because the city is written with a "U" Curitiba, while the team, as it has been since 1909, has not changed the spelling and has continued to use the old name of the city with an "O" Coritiba.
So, about the clubs Cruzeiro and Atlético from Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais (MG) the mascots were given during the 40s. One can easily overlook how the rivals mascots can be set in the Greek dichotomy of Intelect (Fox) vs Force (Rooster). Also, that is a preying fight there.
I think you treated their part too fast, especially compared to the clubs of Rio and São Paulo, so here more info:
7:19 Cruzeiro was given the Fox (Raposa) as a mascot (and therefore its nickname) by the cartoonist because its president was at the time clever and cunning as a fox. Cruzeiro also has two nicknames, "Zêro", the way "Zeiro" sounds in Minas Gerais accent, and Cabuloso, that means something/someone that imposes fear and dread on people. In everyday life, Cruzeiro fans use Cruzeiro and Cabuloso to refer to the club, while Fox is the visual representation and "Zêro" is more lyrical, used in chants for example.
6:52 Alt-MG* has its nickname "rooster" (galo) given by the cartoonist in 1945 because its president at the time he had a very combative manner, like a fighting cock (cockfighting is not a completely legal practice in Brazil "the spirit of the club". One can for sure say that "Rooster" is the name most of its supporters use when they refer to their team in day to day talks but also visually/imagetically and lyrically (in chants).
* Eu sei que vocês atleticanos odeiam que escreva "Alt", porem como procurei ser super imparcial no resto da história, pois achei que o futebol mineiro merecia mais atenção como um todo. Porém, eu tinha que deixar meu clubismo respirar um pouco também né. Engolem o choro e fiquem de boa. Abs, os amo e odeio o seu clube (odeie o pecado, ame o pecador).
You forgot that ronaldinho also played for flamengo and had one of the best seasons of his life
Yes I've made a video about the Santos v Flamengo match. Flamengo is a bigger club so I felt they didn't need the distinction that Ronaldinho played for them as much as Atletico Mineiro.
Strange that no one talk about this, but Timão is the Ship's wheel in portuguese.
But mosty of Corintians fans forget about this XD
Hey, i'm a brazillian and i have to say something. The "big twelve" aren't a thing, it's more like big 15. Bahia and Sport Recife both have pretty similar fanbase to Fluminense and Botafogo in terms of numbers, Sport having the biggest fanbase of the intire northeast region of Brazil. Also, speaking of titles, Sport has a Brasileirão (1987) and a Copa do Brasil (2008), and Bahia has two Brasileirões, one of them being against the Santos of Pelé. Athletico-PR has a sudamericana, a Copa do Brasil and a Brasileirão. Not even counting Coritiba, which has a big fanbase and was also a champion of the Brasileirão. This comment is just to open your horizons to the brazilian football, because most of the media only talks about the "eixo sul-sudeste", which are the clubs from the south-southeast region of Brazil respectively, and forget about the northeast region's clubs. The term "big 12" was created by the south/southeast region's media journalists and is a vision that exclude the northeast clubs for being relevant. I can rant about this term for hours but i think i will just stop here. Good content tho, keep it up.
Thanks yeah I didn’t really think it was a thing anymore to be honest. ‘Doze Grandes’ was just a nice phrase that I thought I could put in a video. I’m learning more every day about Brazilian football and I now know that Sport and Bahia, as well as a few others, have big fanbases too. In England, there have been similar terms used - now it is ‘the big six’. And it’s always contentious with some fans. Sorry for bringing up a term that’s not used so more ✌️⚽️
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS It's totally understandable for you to have used it though, a lot of brazilians that don't know about the northeast brazilian football (which are a lot of people unfortunately) still use the term. The thing is, the south/southeast media still uses that term and it pisses me off a bit (i'm a Sport Recife fan). I'm glad i could open your eyes to the northeast clubs too! "É nois"
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@@nickxdr1987 Thank you yes the media influences us in lots of ways so it is good to have different perspectives.
Brazilian football is the best in terms of actual skill and quality.
It's very simple, football in the Brazilian league is played how the street kids of brazil play football when they grow up. Have you ever seen Brazilian kids play in the street? Every single one of them are naturally skilled. They are skilled in every aspect of the game, hence why there always exists world class players at every single position on the pitch from brazil. Every team in the Brazilian Serie-A pretty much only have Brazilian players, opposed to teams in fx. the Premier League, ITA Serie A, Ligue 1, LaLiga, Bundesliga. I believe this is why there are so many amazing goals and highlights from the Brazilian league, even though they are not seen by most people because Brazilian league is not watched alot by non-Brazilian people.
Great video, congratulations. And Vai Corinthians! The biggets in the country in many ways, with more national titles, great international achievements, huge popularity and more passionate fans, with political and social struggles that go beyond the sports barrier.
.... and the most hated by fans of other clubs
@@pedrobelluco4269 haha I never realised Corinthians were so big... until I found out more about the league. Thanks for watching.
Wow I didn’t know nothing about Flamengo, bota fogo and so on, because those are clubs from Rio de Janeiro. And im from São Paulo. Thanks for the information.
Let me ask, I am a factory worker who lives in Southeast Asia, I am 22 years old, my position is as a striker, is it possible to play in the Brazilian League? Am I late? It's okay to play in a weak club, the important thing is to be able to play in the Brazilian league,
Brazilians are the best footballers in the world. There are Brazilian footballers all over the world that started playing in the Brazilian league. I think it is being a little optimistic to expect to start playing for a Brazilian league coming from South East Asia.
I liked the explication in English about Brazilian teams. Do you speak Portuguese language?
Thanks. I'm picking up some Portuguese but no I don't speak it.
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The explanation for Fluminense is wrong
São Paulo's colors come from the colors of the teams that were united on its formation
Hey man I’m English and love Brazilian league and the shirts but I wondered if you know something about one of my shirts.... my gremio 2012 shirt is unique and unlike any I have found as it has an archer in the chest area and Flecheiro9 on the sleeve, do u know why is this? Thanks for reading and any insight! Also great video.
Hi yes I asked a friend in my Facebook group and it is connected to a player called Marcelo Martins Moreno. He was a Gremio number 9 for a bit and his celebration was to pull an arrow like an archer (Flecheiro). He is more connected to Cruzeiro I think and still plays for them. But I don't know if it was just on that kit or every one... I imagine it is just on the number 9 shirt.
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS hey man thanks for the information! I made a breakthrough and maybe you’d like an update ha ha. So the shirt was called ‘Camisa do Fleichero’ released in November 2012 on a limited run for a Moreno as he had scored 20 goals. The club felt a need to do this as in 2012 Gremio had a bit of an underwhelming season and this was something they felt they could all celebrate and the shirt celebrates his heritage, celebration and himself! Very unique can’t find any online for sale so will be something I will cherish.
It’s definitely unusual and something that collectors may be interested in one day. How did you get it?
Nenhum clube brasileiro é maior que o São Paulo... nenhum!!! ❤️🖤🤍
Vai São Paulo!
*Flamengo, the team with the most fans in Brazil. 42 MILLION fans.*
Ñ tem nem 35
@@souza1841 corinthians vasco de gama the most popular fans in brasil
@@youssefelmi2998 Vasco da Gama é a 6 maior torcida...
@@souza1841 Quanta inveja...
@@universoz6294 do Vasco?
4:09 Amigo, "Timão" não é devido ao aumentativo, mas sim ao timão realmente, ou leme de navio.
ñ, a origem do apelido é uma matéria da antiga gazeta esportiva sobre o grande time que o corinthians tinha, um verdadeiro timão
Obrigado - I wasn't sure about that! I couldn't find the reason so I just assumed :) There are so many links to sailing/ships in Brazilian football clubs.
The information that +Reinaldo Silva commented is wrong. The origin of the nickname is actually a sports newspaper headline saying that Corinthians was a big team after a match played in the beginning of the 1966 season. Corinthians hadn't won a title since 1954 at that point, so the club spend a lot buying players to that squad, Garrincha for example, but that team failed and didn't win a important title in the end of the season, just a tournament that wasn't so important anymore. So the rivals fans, remembering that headline, started to provoke Corinthians fans about the big team like "so that's the big team, what a joke". The Corinthians fans kinda embraced it. By the way, here's a link telling this story in portuguese
www.gazetaesportiva.com/times/corinthians/voce-sabia-apelido-timao-surgiu-na-gazeta-esportiva-com-estreia-de-garrincha/
@@victoralbano97 Ah ok I wasn't sure of the reason... thanks. I Google translated the article... I can't believe they paid a lot of money for Garrincha even though he hadn't played for four years. I like the way that the Brazilian fans take insults and turn them into their nicknames.
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS supposedly the reason that Palmeiras became porco was also an offense by Corinthians fans that we embraced. I know you mentioned that but just to specify a little more 8 months later
Great job, very well done research :) you only missed to mention that Galo (Atletico Mineiro) is the biggest among them all. Just saying 😅
What a season for Atletico Mineiro! You must be buzzing 👍 I will make a video about this Brasileirao season - A big 2nd leg next week in the Copa Libertadores 👍
🤨🤨
Oh, the Big 12, the absolute trash group that ruined brazilian football. As a Remo supporter I despise almost all of them. They are psrtially responsible for my team currently being in the 3rd tier. Fluminense got itself promoted from the 3rd to the 1st tier while canceling our promotion to Série A just because yes, and both CBF and the 13 Club battled against Remo in the justice to avoid us from playing Série A in 2001
I am atletico mineiro fan and I agree with you. The guy could be showing, at least, 20 big clubs in this video but the G-12 suppress the other. Note that even clubs with tons of fans and history like Bahia is not considered by a lot of people. Athletico PR has been part of successful clubs lately ( they don’t have a large base of fans but they perfectly suit into the club of the big ones.
@@stanleycunha Yes. In my conception there are 23 big clubs in Brazil, with them being:
- Flamengo, Vasco, Botafogo and Fluminense
- SP, Corinthians, Palmeiras and Santos
- Atlético and Cruzeiro
- Grêmio and Internacional
- Bahia and Vitória
- Fortaleza and Ceará
- Remo and Paysandu
- Sport, Santa Cruz and Náutico
- Athletico and Coritiba
To me those are the Big23, with the G12 being the national giants, while Fortaleza, Bahia and Athletico are the most successful regional clubs. As you can see, my top 23 is defined by "mass clubs" (clubes de massa, com torcidas de 1 milhão ou mais), which I think is fair enough to represent our demographic. 12 clubs from the Southeast, 4 from the South, 5 from the Northeast and 2 from the North. You could also add Goiás and Vila Nova and make it a Big25 list instead of 23, but the general parameter still remains. When we talk about the G12, we ignore the continental aspect of our country and focus solely on 4 states (RJ, SP, MG and RS) and nowhere else
@@tufab3494 totally agree. I’d make it 25.
CRUZEIRO ⚪💙
CABULOSO 🇧🇷
KBULOSO
Cruzeirooo
my favorite team is cruzeiro we are in the 2nd division but i believe we can go back to elite football and our story is like in 2 of january 1921 italian imagrants game to belo horizonte and made the club that was called societa palestra italia but when world war 2 happened our president at the time getulio vargas told every club that they needed to change their name if they had any italian references so palestra italia changed it to cruzeiro cuz of the south constalation and they did it cuz it was on the brazilian flag so they wanted to nationalize and we have 4 campeonatos brasileiros 2 libertadores 6 copas do brasil e 38 campeonatos mineros our rival is atletico mg so we call them frangas that is chicken cuz of their mascot that is a rooster and they call us marias our best year was in 2003 when we got the triplice coroa that is like 3 titles FORCA CRUZEIROOOO BORA CABAR COM O MEQUINHA
Yes I know Cruzeiro have fallen on hard times. I think in the video I talk about Palmeiras needing to change their name because they originally had an Axis power in their name - but I read about Cruzeiro doing the same too.
Corinthians Paulista n Corinthian Casuals brothers in Football
Have you seen the movie?
I've seen a documentary about them - I can't remember the name. What is the name of the movie?
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS Vai Corinthians - Brothers in Football
@@colecionadordotimao Thanks - yeah I think I've seen it. It's an amazing story. I think it was on national TV in the UK.
Grêmio is called Imortal due to a historical match known as
"Batalha dos Aflitos"
@@elvis._ I’ve made a video about that incredible match 👍
just a note... corinthians' nickname is 'timão' not because it means 'big team' in Portuguese... but because its symbol is a ship helm.. whose translation to Portuguese is 'timão'.
Thanks yes I thought there must be more to it than just 'big team'
Nice! Ceara has a friendship with tottenham, they live exchanging messages on social network lol...
Really :) Do you know why there is a friendship?
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS globoesporte.globo.com/ce/futebol/times/ceara/noticia/conexao-ceara-londres-tottenham-cria-perfil-em-portugues-apos-obra-prima-do-vovo.ghtml
@@armeiro21 haha both of the players are similar :)
*VAI CORINTHIANS!!!!*
l love my time corinthians
Team*
I would like to help you with more accurate or kind of extra info about the clubs here.
Doze = In Portuguese, the zeta is like in English, not like in Spanish where z = s. Don't worry, you don't have no speak Portuguese.
Fluminense [Floo.mee.nein.see] Maybe "Pó de arroz' is an old nickname. Here in Rio you say Flu, Fluminense and sometimes Tricolor. I honestly had never heard "Pó de arroz".
Flamengo. The black vulture (urubu) is the mascot, rarely used as a nickname, only when you're joking, making a pun or mocking. We hardly ever refer to Flamengo as urubu. It's normally Flamengo, Mengão (if you're a fan), sometimes Fla. BTW, FLA-FLU is a derby. It's Flamengo vs Fluminense. The adversary supporters refer to Flamengo fans as "mulambos".
Botafogo. Fogão is used by their fans. Lonely star is used only by TV commentors. Botafogo = set fire
Vasco. Their fans call it "Vascão". Cruzmaltino is an adjective, so TV commentors say "O time cruzmaltino" or "O time da cruz de malta" = the Maltese Cross Team.
Corinthians is also called Timão. That's correct. However, "timão" happens to be the same word for the steering wheel you find in ships. That's the true meaning.
Palmeiras. All correct. But TV guys never say "porco", only fans commonly during chants.
São Paulo. Referred by TV guys as "Tricolor paulista" (It's in their official anthem). São Paulo as well as Fluminense is called by rivals as gay clubs. Idk why. It's just a joke. No homophobic stuff.
Santos is called Peixe (Fish). That's all correct.
Atlético Mineiro. The nickname Galo is very used by everyone.
Cruzeiro's nickname is Raposa (Fox) but you don't hear people say Raposa.
Grêmio. Nothing to add.
Internacional, it's normally called Inter. We know that Colorado is their nickname but we don't refer to the team as such.
If you're a supporter, you'll probably refer to yourself as:
1. Fluminense. Tricolor/Fluminense/Fluzão
2. Flamengoo. Flamenguista/Flamengo/ Mengão/Fla/Rubro-negro (red-black)
3. Botafogo. Fogão/Botafogo/botafoguense
4. Vasco. Vascaíno/Vasco/vascão/Cruzmaltino (rare)
5. Corinthians. Corinthians/corintiano/coringão
6. Palmeiras. Palmeirense/Palmeiras/Verdão
7 São Paulo. São Paulino/São Paulo (Bambi the deer by rivals cuz deer is slang for queer).
8. Santos. Santista/Santos/peixe
9. Atlético Mineiro. Galo/Atlético/Atleticano
10. Cruzeiro. Cruzeirense/Cruzeiro.
11. Grêmio. Grêmio/gremista
12. International. Colorado/Inter/Colorado
Here, you don't say "I'm a Liverpool fan", you'd say (in Portuguese, of course), "I'm Liverpool, I'm liverpudlian, I'm Reds" without an infinite article.
Well, I know it's a lot of information. That's my contribution. I hope it's useful.
All the best!!
Não perdeu a oportunidade de zoar o São Paulo. Não havia necessidade nenhuma de usar a forma pejorativa para explicar os apelidos por aqui
@@joaobarbosa4918 Não inventei nada, só relatei os fatos e não foi com a intenção de zoar.
@@silviomp Até porque você também descreveu as formas pejorativas de chamar os outros clubes, não é?
@@joaobarbosa4918 Esqueci de pôr mulambo no do Flamengo. Mas não zoo times, na verdade, nem acompanho futebol. Torcedor é tudo babaca, tipo vc.
@@silviomp hahahahahahaha
Very accurate. Timao has double meaning.
Hello my friend, i from brazil, best club botafogo = putfire
Botafogo = Faísca
@@imperadoraurelianus5325 sai faísca ❇ quando entra na sua bunda né
@@andersonporto1865 um time que só tem 2 campeonatos brasileiros e não tem copa do Brasil e nem chegou em uma final de libertadores como essa merda é considerada grande?
@@danilodeandrade808 Teria Copa do Brasil se não fosse roubada.
Agora vc me pergunta:
-Como o Flamengo não é considerado o clube mais filha da puta do mundo, 1981 foi o maior roubo da história do futebol, até os Ingleses concordam comigo, e isso ainda levou eles a ganharem o mundial, se não fosse o seu salvador José Roberto Wright, certamente o clube taria na merda e mesmo se não tivesse na merda, não seria tão grande quanto é agora
-Como o Fluminense tem uma história melhor que o Botafogo? o Fluminense não foi rebaixado por causa que eles não podiam jogar a série B, eles foram de Série C pra Série A, enquanto isso, o Botafogo tem os melhores Ídolos do Rio de Janeiro, tem o recorde de mais jogadores que foram convocados pra seleção, e levaram uma Copa INTEIRA para o Brasil, só roubaram em 1995, mas ninguém fala sobre o roubo da Copa do Brasil
-O Vasco tá uma merda, é isso que acontece quando o time não é favorecido pelos árbitros, única coisa que eles tem pra se orgulhar na história deles é uma Libertadores e uma coisa que não é nem relacionada a futebol(primeiro clube a permitir que os jogadores negros entrassem pelo clube, mesmo se os torcedores usavam insultos racistas contra a torcida do Flamengo)
A única razão do porque o Botafogo não tem Libertadores ou não chegou na final, é por causa apenas o vencedor podia disputar a Libertadores, não os quatro primeiros, o Flamengo conquistou as duas Libertadores desse jeito, não sendo campeão em 2018 ou 2021, O Fluminense também conquistou a sua primeira Libertadores assim
Where can I get some kits?
O nome do estádio do botafogo é Nilton Santos o primeiro clube brasileiro a ser fundado e ele foi o único que tem vários jogadores no Hall da fama da FIFA com 3 jogadores garrincha Nilton Santos e jairzinho e é o que ajudou a seleção brasileira a ser tri campeão do mundo em 1958 1962 e 1970 e também o botafogo é o clube no Brasil que tem inúmeros recorde até hoje insuperáveis
Obrigado - Gosto muito da história de todos os clubes brasileiros. Futebol é vida :) O Botafogo produziu jogadores de futebol incríveis.
@@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS veja sobre o Bahia também eu torço para 2 clubes no Brasil Bahia e botafogo mais a torcida dos 2 clubes são magníficas com seus mosaicos assim como o mosaico da torcida do Fortaleza e Ceará vale a pena vc também conferir o futebol brasileiro dos clubes do nordeste não são muito falado pela imprensa do sudeste e do Sul do Brasil por isso vocês não conhece tanto, mais o futebol do nordeste tem o melhor campeonato regional do Brasil conhecido como lampions liga mais é chamado de copa do nordeste! th-cam.com/video/iq0YT01j4Ps/w-d-xo.html
O primeiro clube de futebol a ser fundado no Brasil foi o Rio Grande FC em 1900, daonde tirou que é o Botafogo
The biggest classic is the Derby paulista which has Corinthians vs Palmeiras ...
Yes there seems to be a lot of animosity between the two sets of fans.
Not true, the greatest rivalry is Gre-Nal (Grêmio vs Internacional)
@@guilhermehenzel5697 kkkkkkkkkkkkkk é piada?
Actually, Flamengo was a aristocratic club too. Botafogo, Fluminense, Flamengo and America were the rich teams, the clubs of white people. Vasco da Gama was the first club to be champion with black and poor people. The nickname "urubu" came decades later, and yes, it came from racism, cause the club chenged its audience.
Yes I don't think racism, or even challenging racism, was particular to one club but I like the way Vasco da Gama are known for championing black and poor people.