Could The 'Brazilian Super League' Rival Europe's Elite?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ค. 2021
- Just three months on from an attempted breakaway European Super League, orchestrated by the likes of Juventus, Manchester United, and Real Madrid, there is another breakaway league making headlines across the Atlantic over in South America.
For decades, Brazil didn't just have one of the best national teams in world football, but one of the strongest leagues too, in the form of the Campeonato Brasileiro Série A.
That is no longer the case, with the Brasileiro unable to compete with the finances of the Premier League or La Liga, but soccer chiefs in Brazil want to see the nation rise again - and in this documentary, HITC Sevens takes a look at their bold plans; who's involved, how much its going to cost, and how it could impact world football. - กีฬา
While other channels say Pelé is a fraud, you take the time to research and make a video like this. On top of that your pronunciation "Campeonato Brasileiro" is perfect. Cheers from Brazil, Alfie
Thanks G., very kind of you. Greetings, and I hope I'm able to visit for a game one day!
@@HITCSevens Wait a minute, are you thinking of coming to Brazil?
[Eldritch Horror Theme Intensifies]
Not perfect because the nasal vowels of Brazilian Portuguese are really challenging for non-native speakers, but rather good indeed
@@HITCSevens do a video on
MERGE CONCACAF AND CONMEBOL
JUST MERGE IT
Shot on raymar
A year has 52 weeks.
Brazilian league: 38 dates.
Regional league: from 12 to 19 dates (depends on the state and how far the team goes).
Brazilian Cup: from 8 to 12 dates (depends if the team starts in an earlier stage).
Copa Libertadores: from 6 to 18 dates (like Champions).
Copa Sulamericana: from 6 to 14 dates (like Europa League).
The Brazilian league does not stop during international competitions. So, in Copa America the teams played without the most important players.
Flamengo played 12 rounds without the main team.
So there is a lot of work to be done in Brazil.
Do a similair video on the Beneliga, the proposed merged league between Belgium and The Netherlands
It could also touch on the recently proposed NL League which is a similar attempted breakaway by all but two of the Dutch top flight teams.
Pretty sure he did one
@@jackbrownio3 I couldnt find it so idk
That's not gonna happen, Dutch clubs don't want it. They just used it to pressure the Dutch FA to let them break away in the NL league. which is not gonna happen either, Ajax and Feijenoord don't agree. Ajax doesn't want to share more of their money then they already do, and feijenoord wants to have their youth team in the second tier of Dutch football, like Ajax, PSV and AZ have, and the smaller clubs won't agree to that either.
@@jetla7485 I’m pretty sure he’s discussed it but it may not have been a specific video, or maybe the vid has a different title or was removed or something. Not sure there’s much to say about it other than what other reporters have mentioned as it’s been written to death at this point.
33 minutes about the hypothetical Brazilian Premier League. You love to see it
Now for a 45 minute video about the Mexican Premier League when the Liga MX clubs follow suit after the smashing success of this one
They already did that. Or to be more precise, the LigaMX clubs control the FMF to the point where they were able to effectively close off LigaMX for at least the next six seasons, though their reason for doing so was legitimate - all but a handful of clubs outside of LigaMX lack the infrastructure necessary to meet the league's minimum standards. The country's second division was recast into what's now known as the Liga de Expansion (also called Liga Deasarollos) in what LigaMX and the FMF refer to as a "stabilization project", though the league also includes reserve/developmental sides from CF Monterrey and Pumas. The official endgame of the LdE is to allow its member clubs to use the temporary moratorium on promotion and relegation to improve their infrastructure - stadium capacity, training facilities and so on - to the point where they would be ready to compete with LigaMX once the moratorium is lifted. That said, the cynic I am sees this move as a way to cause the independent clubs outside of LigaMX to weaken to the point where they either wither and die, or are forced to become minor-league affiliates of LigaMX sides in a manner similar to Major League Baseball's farm-team system. Also, after the announcement of the "stabilization project", a breakaway league and FA formed and have since completed their first season as the Liga de Balompie, with the LdB being the first formal league to be recognized and sanctioned by CONIFA.
@@BroadwayJoe99 it’s not your cynical side talking when the FMF has showed us all the wrong sides. There’s a TH-cam channel that talks about all the fmf leaks. 1st they still allow ownership of multiple teams and just because it’s one is own between son and father it’s not okay. The no free agent rule still in affect, people who don’t know in Mexico theres no such thing as a free transfer.
By invisible law you have to pay the previous team a retention or else no other club will make business with them. Then the relegation and is a joke grasping for an average from the previous 3 season so obviously promoted teams have a disadvantage. And promotion can be denied to any team as long no matter what excuse. And a promoted team can sell their right to the relegated team.
Alfie, are you writing this down? A WITW video on LigaMX and FMF MUST. BE. DONE.
If this ever happens and financially, they can compete, we may see an end to Brazil's best playing on European soil at the club level. Some food for thought👍
Unless its a south American one i really don't see how it would work. You need boca juniors and river plate in it too
@@Micfri300 we should still face them in the libertadores or, god forbid, the Sul-americana. Because of we have Boca and river we will also have to invite peñarol (URU), Universidad Catolica (CHL), etc. And traveling to all their home fixtures will be a pain in the butt.
@@odilsonbraz2239 thats the only way it would work to reach a global audience. People in Spain and italy would definitely watch if the time zone was reasonable
Honestly, the most feasible possibility is 15 of the 20 Série A clubs going bankrupt
@@Micfri300 There's only one problem (of many) with that idea. Brazil by itself has the same size of the European continent whithout Russia
As an Argentinian I really hope they do it. We need to start showing people that public organizations like the CBF can't work. If that ever happens, us South Americans will be set free
As a Brazilian, I hope that happens to all countries in South America
The management of football in South America is amateur! I think if we got serious, Libertadores could compete with the Champions League
@DDeglane16 That's true hahahha
the problem with cbf isn't it is public, but it's oligarch instead
CBF is private
@@fabriciofazano CBF is private, but is still controlwd by the government
The people in charge are the same since the 1970s and these people are usually militars
Request : What on earth is going on with Florentino Perez?
Great idea
The man's gone insane after his ESL failure
@@lalitthapa101 Can't be helped by his unearthed past oopsies too!
Ah yes the football version of Mr Burns haha
@@lalitthapa101 those recordings were from 10 years ago, he is just batshit crazy long before the super league
Do a similar video about the proposed Liga MX-MLS merger that was being discussed or one about the merger of the Copa America and the Concacaf Gold Cup
Or the Dutch/Belgium merger
@@bri1085 beneliga
@@ZvenoGaming doesn't that translate to bones or legs league?
@@bri1085 no its BeNeliga
@@bri1085 Be of belgium and Ne of netherlands
if Brazilian leagues had more TV coverage, this would give clubs international recognition and branding like liverpool and man utd. This would also give more importance and probably viewership of the Club World Cup
Não precisa de reconhecimento para jogar um belo futebol, o Brasil vem dominando a América durante 3 anos
@@bomdia6767 3 anos não mano, na década passada dominamos
Bem,o brasileirão passa em mais de 145 países com audiência de 600 milhões de pessoas.
If they made the games easier to watch over here in the U.S I would seriously choose a team to support
@@anthonytorres3000facts
Always great to see deep and specialized content about our national league! Well done! You're already doing a better job than 95% of our Brazilian TV pundits.
não fala isso do crack neto
Palmairos actually lost to Tigres in the semifinals not the Egyptian team. That was for 3rd place.
Palmeiras.
Al-Ahly*
And the whole of Brazil celebrated this defeat. The memes shall go on: Palmeiras has no Worlds.
@@odilsonbraz2239 palmeiras n tem mundial vamooo caraioooo
@@benjaminluiz2185 for you to see how small is palmeiras people can't even spell their team name , no club world cup for palmeiras
This month Brazil's legislative approved a new law that permits clubs in Brazil to function as corporations, mainly changing tax obligations and leading the way to a possible change in how the teams are run today.
Also, there is now huge pressure from the biggest teams in both Série A and Série B regarding the TV rights. Clubs defend that the home team should have the TV rights of the match, not the CBF, discussion that is already in process at Brazil's Legislative.
This new model of administration would fit with a Brazilian "Super League", propeling CEOs and chairmans to close a deal between teams and the CBF that is more lucrative, independent and organized, in means of corruption and competitions calendar.
if the TV rights don't be negotiated collectively, this means very little
Henrique eu não entendo nada de inglês, o que o cara aí do vídeo disse
@@kauaoliveira9273 Cara, ele disse muita coisa, tenta ver com legenda automática em português
@@hsv2711 o meu não foi
@@hsv2711 não tem legenda automática em português.
Vasco da Gama and Botafogo are two of the coolest names for football teams.
Great video, Alfie! As a Brazilian myself, it's so good to see an english Football Channel that makes such a careful effort to dive and to understand the context of brazilian Football, currently and historically! Maybe one or two minor details are off, but as a whole, it's a really solid work! Congratulations!
P.s: Although I support the idea of a reforming in my country's Top Flight, I also share the concern about the foreign investments's origins. Don't wanna see a gigantic economic bubble and dubious Business men get hold of all the power over the clubs and the League - kinda like what happened in England and most of Europeans countries, being honest.
That’s why I enjoy the german bundesliga. 50+1 rule should be everywhere. There fans still matter and there is no single person as a monopoly.
Oi amigão! Yes I agree completely. There are teams like Atlético Mineiro that have +110 year histories with fans and I can be here all day listing examples of corporations forgoing tradition solely for profit.
Great video by the way! Easiest sub in a while
We are just tired of CBF. There's way many competitions for them to organize and they've proved to be very incompetent. The tournaments are suffering from bad games calendar and are generally unorganized. This new league will help clubs wich currently are in ruins to pay their debts and reform (Cruzeiro, Vasco, Botafogo etc.) It will also help with Globo's monopoly of the tournament's transmission on tv, since clubs will be able to choose wich network will show their games.
Is it likely the super league will go ahead?
@@jayson22s no
is advancing
Unbelievable how you all fixate on a single mistake that happened during a 34 minute video🥴
where
Day 12 of asking for a documentary about the 3 way tie of the 1978 CONCACAF Champions League
Take the hint
Day 13 of not caring
@@jamesledgendhogben4851 Lol
With respect, why do you need a video on something you ostensibly already know about? 🤣
@@rossomac21 I only know that it happened and that there were some sort of arguments in the board, and since I am too lazy to research myself, I'd much rather have Alfie do that for me and present it it a nice digestible manner
Alfie I am Brazilian and I loved this video!🇧🇷👍🏻
Another interesting fact about Flamengo and Sport dispute of the 1987 season is that, when Flamengo won their seventh (or sixth) title in 2019, some people started to complain about Flamengo calling themselves "hepta campeões" or "seven times champions", which made CBF promptly responded with a statement basically saying "we can neither confirm nor denied that this true". This is only one of many instances of a problem that we Brazilians have with CBF: the lack of positioning they take on controversial matters choosing to even avoid talking about it. This together with many other noticeable problems such as corruption, poor management of the national team, and youth level national team, lack of monitoring the financial situation of clubs to ensure they are run properly (eg. Botafogo and Cruzeiro), horrible distribution of revenue and the lack of financial help to small clubs during the COVID pandemic (even though they had a record profit) make the majority of the Brazilian people despise the CBF.
Oh, did I say that the referres and VAR in Brazil are horrible?
Bro, you said it perfectly. I really hope the Brazilian Super League becomes a reality so CBF maybe starts to have some goddamn sense and run for its money
87=Sport
@@pedrohenriquecarneiro3386 I don't know about VAR itself, but a general problem with conmebol referees is they refuse to review more "polemical scenes" or even just take var advice, it makes the var look useless, because it's underused
A judicial decision prohibits CBF to acknowledge any National Champions for 1987 other than Sport Recife. They can chose between being over the fence like you said or firmly stand by Sport only, no other team.
Did someone ever watched a match of Brazilian Serie A? I'm brazilian and I can say to you that will not happen at least in the next few years, the football practiced today in Brazil it's a bad mix of the worse tiki-taka you ever see, with diving football and constant pressure on the referee from the players... it's awfull, the situation got so bad that we practicly broke the VAR iniciative because, they were able to make VAR even worst (waaaaaay worst) then already it is...
Yes, I have watched the Brasilerao since 2003 when a UK channel showed 1 game a week. The tempo is slower and the quality of the league has deceased as better players have moved increasingly earlier in their careers. Nevertheless there are still moments of genuine quality
Tiki Taka?No such brilliant tatic in this tournament mate
Oh It's that. As people would say "at the end It will all end in pizza"
But thanks a lot for highlighting our football again S2
Sensational video.
Brazilian football history is full of scandals and chaos, in a mix of successes and tragedies.
Your conclusion is perfect, the comparison is to be made with the English Premier League, not the European Premier League.
All that Brazilian football needs is real professionalism in the managing of the clubs and championships. Just as an example, till this day in Brazil the referees are still "amateur", as they don't have formal contracts and salaries with the federation.
With more professionalism, there will be no more place for corruption in any level (search for the recent corruption history in Cruzeiro, one of Brazil's biggest sides which now has been relegated for their first time). Along with less corruption, the business environment tends to get better with managerial professionalism, attracting more sponsorships, selling the product for better prices and keeping the rules and organization of tournaments in order. This may help to cease the ever increasing debt of every single club, and collaborate with the economic competitiveness of the league, bringing more talent from abroad and keeping our talent in house.
Brazil only needs seriousness and real justice, not only in Football, but in every aspect of its society.
God created Brazil with all of its perfections, but the only defect it gave this land is the man that lives in it.
The real problem with the kick off time for 🇧🇷 is not MLS. It's that your going against every other major US sport. PL and bundesliga is popular because literally there is usually nothing else sports wise on.
I'm keeping an eye on this league. Especially after players like Douglas Costa, Hulk, Diego Costa, Renato Augusto moved back to the league. Also some insanely talents are right now in this league.
32 yr old douglas, 33 yr old diego and 35 yr old hulk?
@@smartfck4 There's still massive talents in the league that aren't as recognized , he obviously mentioned those because they are big names, but you have players like Veiga, Zaracho, De Arrascate, Gabigol, Danilo, just to name a few
@@johnny622 gabriel Barbosa is a very big Brazilian players wanted by big leauges in Europe
Another controversy in the 2000's was that Fluminense, one of the members of Clube dos 13, was relagated to third division in the previous season but managed to play the top flight that year and continued to do so ever since. Never playing the Serie C and wasn't promoted from Serie B as well.
O fluminense jogou a série C sim, mas não jogou a B
Being brazilian, I can only thank you, amazing video!!! This is indeed the people's channel and the best youtube channel when comes to football. CBF is a disgrace and the clubs need to break away fast as possible or Campeonato Brasileiro will continue to struggle. Our clubs don't have the money to hold young and talent players, to buy players and the quality of the games is low, our managers are being left behind when it comes to tactics.
7:39 - 7:42 These two damn names (Portuguesa & Joinville).
In the Brasileirão 2013 four teams were relegated Náutico, Ponte Preta (who ironically reached the Copa Sudamericana final losing to Lanús), Vasco da Gama and Fluminense. Whoever Fluminense entered the court against Portuguesa and Flamengo (Who recently had won the Brazil domestic cup but also at the time they were going through several debts.) because both teams had a irregular lineup. The appeal was granted and Flamengo fell from eleventh to sixteenth and Portuguesa fell from twelfth to seventeenth therefore relegating Lusa to the second division. Meanwhile Flamengo redeemed itself by winning 2 Brasileirão 1 Copa Libertadores and being club world cup runner-up Portuguesa fell in a downward spiral that which continues to this day from 2014 to 2017 Portuguesa would relegated from the second to the fourth divison.
Joinville was born in 1976 on the fusion of 2 teams from the city of Joinville América and Caxias they would win the third divison in 2011 thereafter they would win the second divison in 2014 but shortly Joinville would be relegated in the same manner as Portuguesa and despite being stuck in the fourth divison Joinville is a traditional team and is always a favorite team to be promoted.
Imagine a scenario where City wins the prem, but has to face Norwich to be proclaimed the real champions of England... That happened with Flamengo
You forgot to mention the division Flamengo won didn't use technical criteria to choose teams (they use popularity), so the runner-up and 3rd of previous tournament didn't have the opportunity to play this league. Definitely is not a fair situation.
and its fair the Sport Club (serie B league in previous tournament) be declared the champion in a competition where he would not participate?@@rengabriel
Amazing, Alfie! As a Brazilian fan, you managed to summarize the history of Brasileirão fairly well!
A few comments:
- Since the announcement, clubs have explained that the new league would maintain the relegation/promotion system that exists today. That's yet another argument for how this new league is more akin to the Premier League break away than the ill fated European Super League
- 1987 Copa União interestingly played a role in the demise of the clube dos 13. When São Paulo won 3x in a row (06,07,08), it became entitled to a special trophy cup by CBF. However, Flamengo claimed the right to that trophy as well, counting the Copa União as a national title. With two of its founding members fighting among themselves, in addition to other disputes about splitting TV rights, the whole entity fell apart
- Besides the challenges mentioned in the video, huge amounts of debt and outdated governance structures are a critical challenge to be overcome at the club level. As you recently explored, Cruzeiro experienced a massive fall from grace and it would not be surprising to see other major club going bankrupt (Botafogo, Vasco, Corinthians).
Just recently heard about the disputed title of 1987 whilst watching a Sport Recife game that was streamed in the USA via CBS paramount. The wikipedia article I turned to after that match did not explain things nearly as clearly as you did. Love learning more about this sport every day.
Brazillian football history is a mess and completely different from other countries (mostly because our football has developed in state level, not national).
If you ever need help to understand the mess, I'll be glad to help.
And keep the good work in the channel
The title belongs to Sport. 87 é do Sport!
@@heberthr.6978 Sport é o caramba
@@arthurioscavieromatoseferr9936 chora, torcedor genérico.
@@heberthr.6978TÍTULO de 87 é dos dois, Flamengo e Sport, CBF confirma isso.
You can show the perfect context of brazillian league, impressing! Congrats for the good job you always do
Man, i'm impressed on how much you dug up, your knowledge of football is amazing. But yes, the problem with the brazilian league is the same as politics and day to day life in general: corruption, bad administration and the "jeitinho brasileiro" (Brazilian way) a term used to arrange terrible solutions to a problem instead of tackling the main issue, like fixing a broken leg with duct tape and paper clips.
Falou pouco mas falou bosta
Primeiramente corrupção e mã administração nao é algo "cultural" brasileiro como vc acha, é na verdade algo bem comum em países subdesenvolvidos, se trata muito mais de um problema sócio-econômico
E vc deve ta pensando "mas a causa do problema sócio-econômico nao é a corrupçao?" NAO, a causa do problema é o colonialismo e o imperialismo que devastaram e continua devastando o Brasil ate o dia de hoje
@@gabrielevangelista8364 cara, acho que tá meio evidente que você interpretou mal o que foi dito. 😬
Great video, your content is always a highlight of my day
If Brasil Serie A could find the wages and finances of even France or Portugal then the league would become arguably one of the best on the planet and I mean top 3-4. If they had as much money for salaries across the board from top player to squad, as a top 5 league in Europe, then there could be some serious development in play and quality.
Player ownership needs to be owned by the clubs themselves
@@Micfri300 what do you mean?
@@Leon-qn3kb if Brazilian clubs owned 100% of players rights they would make more money on each sale but that isn't the case
How is that supposed to happen when Brazilian economy and society is poorer than Western Europe? That would require a complete revamp of the entire economy and people's purchasing-power, not just the football league.
Likewise, the only reason MLS is even talked about is because of the US' economy. Similarly, the main reason the US is even in World Cup events is because of its economy/marketsize and because its competition consists of tiny countries of the Caribbean and Central America. That's also a big reason why there isn't a unified Americas Cup to replace the pathetic Gold Cup. Better teams from South America and Europe don't get slots in the WC because they go to the US and Canada.
@@realtalk6195 You don't know what you're talking about. As he said in the video, Brazil is always somewhere between the 8th and the 12th economy in the world, way ahead of Spain (14th), for example, and close to Italy, Russia, South Korea, Australia and Canada. The problem is the misuse of money and corruption, which has made a huge social class difference, but there is a lot of money here. Besides, some of the best players in the world are born here, and unlike the European Leagues we don't know the only 2 or 3 teams that really have a chance of winning the championship even before the competition starts, much less are always the same clubs that always win, as happens in Europe...zzz (boring). So, if they figure out how to make a better product to sell for other countries, it would increase revenue from international TV rights and sponsorships, as any of the big european leagues earn most of their money. And nowadays the Brazilian League is already a top 10 in the world in total revenue, but our managers are far from being professionals and they also used to make a bad use of clubs' money. That's also already changing... so as he said in his comment, in a matter of time Brazilian League could be a top 5 or at least top 6, along with MLS.
After Rojo's antics yesterday,I really have to start looking more into South American football😂
What happened yesterday, is pretty common in South America 😂
watch the fight at the end of Copa do Nordeste 2021 🤣🤣🤣
If you want a sample of south american football I recomend you Argentino Jrs 2-4 Fluminense - Copa Libertadores 2011 fight in the end of the match
th-cam.com/video/0KgChOQDA0k/w-d-xo.html
@@rafael6231 better then that edilson o capeta vs palmeiras
Every time argentinians and brazilians face in the Libertadores, there's antics. I always remind of the battle that ensued after the 2009 season finale
Flipping hell, I got lost a few times trying to keep up with the intricacies of the different league set ups. 🤔
Bear in mind, this is just a resumed version. The full picture is even more confusing
Best video i’ve seen coming from a non-brazilian about this topic. Very well researched. But there are some points that are of major importance to this desire to break away from CBF. Unjust and disproportionate alocation of TV rights to Flamengo is one of them, and the feeling that brazilian referees arent exactly trustworthy (see the “Mafia do Apito” scandal for reference, its the brazilian equivalent of the calciopoli) is also a good enough reason. Aldo, most importantly, brazilian football as a whole is a facing an unprecedented crisis, best noticible after the infamous 7-1 loss in 2014. One fact that ilustrates this deep crisis at club level is the presence of 3 of the 12 biggest clubs of brazil in the second flight of the national championship. 2 of those clubs, Botafogo and Cruzeiro, for example, own close to 1 billion reais, and the third, Vasco da Gama, was relegated for the fourth time since 2008.
Brazilian league so underrated
É vdd os Clubes Brasileiros Sonham baixo, Eles N pensam em Algo novo, Só querem Contratar jogadores sul Americanos
its terrible, gritty and not pretty
Crikey, you know your country's ruined when you've got a league named after Joao Havelange...
That tournament was absolute bonkers. I recommend you search for yourself
@@bigguy8435 There was me thinking it couldn't get any more bonkers! I will do, looking forward to this
The Prince Andrew bit had me in stiches. Great video.
Alright, we all know the drill now.
Day 1: 7 biggest scandals in Brazilian football history
I see what you’ve did there. BRA71L
@@angievlogs3407 I wish I could take credit, but that was completely by accident.
5 hours video
the 1987 championship
Fluminense's reversal against their relegation in 2013
Referee Mafia in 2005
just to name a few
Great video, Alfie
As a brazilian I hope the league can get good again, and we can compete against the europeans as equals
O Problema é q os Clubes Brasileiros Sonham Baixo só querem Contratações Sul Americana eles nunca sai dessa Zona, tipo Eles não pensam em Algo novo
Great video and description. Neat research as always. I would just add Marin at the end of the video, who was CBF's president and was arrested for corruption.
GREEEAAAAAT work as always.
day 3- the original european cup teams or the original ucl clubs-where are they now?
19 out of the 20 Série A teams have signed for this break away league. The only team who has not signed is Sport Recife, and they didn't do it because they currently have no president, their previous president resigned to try escaping corruption scandals and so did the second in charge, leaving the club to try running elections. But the club's board support the break away league.
Possibly the best hitc sevens video yet
Hey man! Brazilian fan of your channel here, great video btw! :) Do you watch the Campeonato Brasileiro? If yes, support any team? I'm a super fan of both Brasileiro and Premier League, not missing a single game from both São Paulo and Liverpool, keep up the great work :)
'MLS is getting too big'
Brasil: Laughs in Original Ronaldo.
"Original Ronaldo".. Is there a new one?
@@Aliquis.frigus he means R9
Brazilian Ronaldo from the 90s
@@newguy6491 yeah, that's the one. Is there anyone else?
@@Aliquis.frigus Cr7 who is usually known as Cristiano but many call him Ronaldo
@@alarmed2542 never heard of him. Must be some Segunda B player or something. Right?
Good content yet again!
Wow. I can't even imagine how many hours of research this took. Kudos. For me, the simplest solution (and for the sake of fixture congestion) is to retain the state championships and have the national championship operate like the Champions League (with an auxiliary equivalent to the Europa League). The states of São Paulo and Rio would have more places guaranteed in the Brazilian "Champions League" just like the biggest European countries have in their Champions League.
So from a standpoint of T.V. broadcast contracts, the biggest would be for the Champions League, the second biggest for the São Paulo League, the third for the Rio League, the fourth probably for their equivalent of the Europa League, etc. Promotion/Relegation would be strictly within the State Leagues just as it is only within the European countries themselves.
So for example, because Rio would have more guaranteed places, a club like Vasco de Gama would always likely qualify for the Brazilian "Champions League", but it's not guaranteed, leaving at least some sense of merit, unlike if it were inside a pure breakaway league.
Hey HITC, great vid! There were a couple of misconceptions in it, but great vid nonetheless!
Another interesting topic is the proposed joining of the leagues in Northern Ireland and the Rep of Ireland to create a league across the whole island.
24:30 The state championships are actually being strongly questioned, and before they started in 2021, it was even questioned if they should be completely terminated. Both the media, clubs and even players question their relevance, altho they have huge impact in smaller teams finances. In summary, they dont hold as much relevance as you pointed out, but still seem to be able to keep existing for the next years, at least.
And, to add to the CBF history, recently the players from Brazil's national team almost denied to play in the Copa America, as a protest to how CBF managed the situation and to the questionable President of the Federation. They only confirmed their participation after the former president was kicked from his post.
Sorry if I had some Grammar Issues, but I hope I could help giving my insight as a Brazilian
Você acha que vão acabar com o paulistão?
request: 7 footballer who only had one manager at senior level
Basically Man United players under Ferguson?
@@TheInsideVideo I thought Alguacil was continuous at Sociedad, but there was a brief period of Asier Garitano as manager. I'd not be surprised if there's players who have moved along with managers for an entire career.
Wow HITC Sevens coming up regularly with long form research vids was a surprise. Big thumbs up and a subscribe from me! I have a bizarre request regarding the curvature of the pitch, specifically about how it can make the ball run out of play. Less specifically if if there is stats that reinforce an assumption that 'closer boarding's limit high speed aggression at the edge of the pitch,?
I had that Copa União album! That was my first or second one. Good old times!
Brazil and corruption go together like Norwich and relegation (Norwich fan here so I can joke about it).
Didn’t you guys get promoted back to the Premier League this season?
@@matthewhernandez8342 Yes, but just like an elevator, we'll go back down again.
you guys are the english Avaí then XD
If the Americans, that are the greatest at marketing and organizing sport events, put their hands in the Brazilian league the world will start to hear about the Brazilian league. Look what they did to Formula 1, spreading its audience. Once people around the world start to watch our league and buying our football merchandising, the clubs would grown amd have more financial power to buy and keep good players.
People: How corrupt are you
Brazilian football: yes
No, Palmeiras lost to Tigre in the semifinals
And than lost on penaltis for the third place
You should talk about the African Super League which the past week was ratified the by African Football Confederation itself.
You could do a vid about Olympic Football. Who takes it seriously or why many countries dont?
Simple answer , there is a limit on number of players over a certain age .
Fifa tries to keep it less important than World Cup so it’s basically like a youth championship
@@Hola-rx1jy And before 1988 it was amateur only, neither Pele nor Maradona were eligible for Olympic football and at that's why it took so long for both Brazil & Argentina to win their first gold medal
This was a very interesting video! Would love to hear you talk about the proposed merger of the Dutch and Belgian leagues, the BeNeLiga.
Actually Palmeiras was defeated by tigres from Mexico in the semi-final, they lost to the other team in the 3rd place dispute.
Please can you do a video about how underrated juninho paulista is
Day 2 of asking : ranking the managerial careers of Alex Ferguson's ex players
The recent last few been good 😂
@@balham5606 Exactly
That prince Andrew bit was class 😭
This might mean the Premier League takes its finger out of it’s arse and starts training up English coaches. It could also persuade more English players to play abroad.
Well said
Why's no one talking about the thumbnail......
Great video, Alfie.
I guess it really depends what form and organisation it takes. Rival maybe not however it could become a firmer no6 worldwide and like you said they could keep hold of their players longer and sell them for more.
As a Brazilian, I must applaud the good and generally precise work behind this video. About the "Super League" (its being called "Libra" for now), the obstacle at this point is the disagreement between two groups of teams: one comprised of fewer, but bigger clubs (in terms of number of supporters and current revenue - with a few stragglers that are desperate for quick cash); another comprised of a greater number of clubs.
Their disagreement revolves around money division criteria (particularly TV money) between the league clubs. The first group is defending a more unequal approach, in which less money is split equally and more money through performance criteria and supporter-based criteria (IMO, they are defending some questionable means of evaluating supporter engagement). The second group, naturally, is defending a more equal money division.
The ”ease of doing business” in Brazil part of the video remains largely true - I believe that Bolsonaro government didn’t change (for worst or better) this situation, despite the repeated horsesh*t that splurges out of his mouth (or used to: its election year, so he’s a bit tamer now). Corruption grew a little again (after the dismantling of “Lava Jato” federal operation), but some business-friendly legislative reforms also took place.
Anyhow, just because of a (justifiable) fear that foreign investors have in putting money towards Brazilian “distressed assets”, this time the efforts are being spearheaded by big Brazilian investment banks, which are used to operate here (BTG, partnering with some influent sports and judiciary types, is with the first group; and XP - which has a somewhat fierce rivalry with BTG - remains with the second, in a kind of partnership with Spanish La Liga). I can only wonder that they intend to organize the league, give it a more palatable packaging, and then sell parts of operations to foreigners, a common deal regarding Brazilian “distressed” or “special situations” assets.
Also of note is the recent law that created a new model of “private enterprise clubs” (the SAF), allowing for a type of club conversion / spinoff (most clubs in Brazil are non-profits, what protects them from bankruptcy, but perpetrates the low professionalism). This model is already in use by clubs in a more precarious financial situation (such as Vasco, Cruzeiro, Botafogo). This list will certainly grow in the near future, as the law allows for some exceptional creditor protection measures and tax breaks (in practice, enacting a “privilege” for private investors who buyout clubs). As always, only the market can pressure the Brazilian clubs (at least, the ones that want to stay competitive) into greater professionalism and internal cohesion.
And some clubs - specifically, Palmeiras, Flamengo and Red Bull Bragantino - are already somewhat attaining a European level of organization, buying players for European level sums as well, so there is some light at the end of the tunnel…
5:43 brasil really was ahead of time but not just in football...
17:07 Old Trinidad and Tobago $1 bills, and a $10 bill spotted 😁
Can you do a video on the top 7 games never to happen? ( eg. Chelsea vs Dortmund)
Look at the caliber of that Vasco team on the picture… Junior Baiano, Edmundo, Romario, Jorginho, Juninho Pernambucano…
Love these types of videos you do! Please could you do a video of a 23 man UK squad excluding English players (Wales, Scotland & N.Ireland)
Amazing “not many likes and views, but a sensational video”, as always
Great video, learned some things even being a Brazilian myself
If it helps, some tips about pronunciation:
The "s" in 'Palmeiras' and 'Guimarães' is pronounced just like in english (e. g. the ending 's' in "Wolves"), no need to read it as 'sh' ("Palmeirash")
Same goes to the "c" in Internacional, where the correct pronunciation is "Internassional"
But all around, good job, there were mostly correct pronunciations.
Mentioning a tiny bit about Indonesia and how big football is in the country, you may aswell research and make an interesting video about how chaos and messed up Indonesian Football Assosiation, how the league format keep changing every couple years and why a crazy football nation as big as Indonesia can’t speak enough in international football yet in asia. Thanks Alfie cheers for the wholesome content👍
bumping this
I still remember the time when the head of Indonesian FA, Governor of North Sumatra, and the chairman of the PSMS Medan were the same person
Liga Tarkam
Timnas Ampas
Good work. Sadly football in Brazil lost it's identity, we even don't have amateur clubs anymore, they're all dead.
There's a reason why Terry Gilliam named his surrealist movie take on Orwell's 1984 "Brasil"...
Make a video about the decline of other South American leagues as well(like Argentina)
short explanation from an Argentinian: socialism
@@nocontextgonzalo Not corruption. Socialist or capitalist corruption will always screw you over.
It would be cool to see a resergance in Brazilian professional football, sad seeing it go from the best league in the world 70 years ago to mediocre now
Money 💰 everything it’s about money now. I’m sure if Brazilian clubs get few billionaires to invest will be completely different look premier league now. The gap between premier league and other league has increased a lot
Great video!
Can you pls do a video on afc Wimbledon story, are you attending any Hull city matches in preseason ?
Afc Wimbledon have a home match in July 31st
Nice vid,I am Brazilian,and my team is São Paulo
Short answer - no
Long answer - noooooooooooooooooo
your definently a football hipster as the irish guy would say
Yes
Tbf, at least HITC Sevens actually knows a thing or two about the sport he's talking about rather than hiding behind the same 5 jokes every video and calling everyone who does actually know about football a hipster.
@@RowanSomething i meant that alfie is really invested in foreign league that most of us have never heard of
The Irish guy’s videos consist of him contradicting precious videos and shoehorning cringey shit jokes that he thinks are funny but just make him sound like a 15 year old fanny.
He actually knows stuff and doesn't just do stupid bets and creepy uncle and my dad left me jokes
Ok. Lemme adjust some points about the 2000 championship: Essentially, this is not a breakaway. It's more likely a solution to organize a championship until the judicial situation are solved. The proof of that are in the runners-up, São Caetano. Who was in, technically, in the Serie B, and was incorporated to the top flight after the 2000 championship and than march bravely to a Copa Libertadores final in 2002 with help from bussiness man of the cercanies. The results and positioning of the teams in the championship was in fact take in consideration. So Fluminense, by exemple, jump a division because they was poached of the 3rd division. Other exemple are Malutrom. Who wins the '3rd tier' of the João Havelange cup and, by that, gain a place in the Round of 16 and a place in the Serie B of the following year. Essentially, and more important judicially, the João Havelange cup was to say for the brazilian justice: "See, we don't relgated anyone. Because everyone disputed the championship. So Gama disputed the championship". Legally, the 2000 Copa João Havelange wasn't a Brazilian championship. But, de facto, was.
Im pretty sure yes. The quality players, the competition having 15 teams with chances to win... the the passion ..... size of the event ... makes all chances if well organized...
15?
@@BraudaGalera I guess... or 13 at least
I remember in SWOS Athletic Mineiro was the only team to have all their players over the magical £1 million 😄
27:04 fun fact the only team that has not agreed to the creation of the new league is Sport (the same that are involved in the 1987 judicial problem), because they currently don't have a president
On the history part, you missed the one year passage that Bela Guttmann, the famous Hungary coach, had in Brazil which utterly revolutionized our game before we won our first world cup. On the rest of the video, I agree with a lot of what you say. As a local, this is one of the best discussions of Brazilian football by someone that doesn't live here.
To get an idea of how the managers of Brazilian teams squandered the chance to make soccer in our country the same or greater than that of Europe and rivaling the American leagues, it would be the same as comparing the semi amateurism of the previous NBA to the year 1980 and before David Stern. Brazilian soccer has never had the 90% of the greatest basketball players in the USA, but it has had approximately 40% to 50%.
I'm still curious to know if there are more Brazilian football players or American basketball players playing professionally outside of Brazil and the U.S.A. respectively. For both sets, I've heard between 600 and 800 bandied about, but I could never find out the exact number of either group.
Can you please make a new video talking about the situation with Metalist Kharkiv and the several teams now claiming to be the true team.
Nice video
You should do more videos about Brazil