I own the Kel-Tec PMR-30 and now the Smith & Wesson 22 magnum both are great guns. I will say though with the Kel-Tec right out the box I was having feeding and failure to eject issues and I had shot over 300 rounds of CCI 40 grain ammo. Reached out to Kel-Tec sent the gun back, no cost out of my pocket and they resolved my issue's.With the Smith&Wesson I've shot just a hundred rounds so far with no issues. I love both guns very fun to shoot
The reason for the fireball is because the 22 WMR was initially designed for a 17 inch rifle barrel, so the powder is going out the end of the pistol barrel while it is still burning. The pressure for the WMR and 22LR are exactly the same at 24,000 psi. I've got the 3 22 Mags in the safe (revolver, semi pistol, semi rifle) Looks like I might soon have another. - Also need to get a lever gun in 22 wmr.
For example, if someone shoots your tire with either .22LR or WMR, the resulting psi will be the same. As to muzzle energy, Magnum is over doble that of LR.
For a 22WMR pistol, I recommend shooting Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel 40 gr JHP. It is actually designed for the shorter barrel. You get less fireball because it burns off in the barrel. When shooting a pistol with ammo designed for a rifle, you get a lot less velocity and a much bigger fireball.
I have to wonder what Speer has done to claim it's designed for a shorter barrel. Or is it just marketing to catch the recent introduction of new WMR's hitting the market. Not putting them down but the only thing would be the powder, it seems.
I've watched several videos on this pistol. Some have had failure to feed issues ( but infrequently). There is a commonality in ALL the videos.....a giggle followed by a big smile. Enjoyed your video.
@@nodescriptionavailable3842I’m with you, I put that WMR in my Heritage RR and man was I pleasantly surprised, what a mea ass little round. And my rifle uses the same ammo and of course it’s even meaner out of a rifle. 🐾✌️🇺🇸
It would be interesting to know what the actual velocity is coming out of that handgun. The listed velocity is assuming a longer barrel like you would get from a riffle. I have had a Kel Tec PMR 30 for a few years and have put a few thousand rounds down range without any failure to feed. The keep is properly loading the mags. I look forward to seeing a head to head comparison between this and the PMR 30. This looks like it was inspired by the PMR 30.
@davidmack4185 Yeah, I'm having a bit of a hard time believing him, but will give the benefit of the doubt because internet. Rimfire in general is likely to malf sooner or later due in no part to the gun, at the very least. I have two Kel-Tecs- KSG and RDB. The former is picky with shell brands/types and the latter ran 2k rounds flawlessly until the hammer snapped. I like Kel-Tec, but don't trust their guns one fat smidge. I've heard the same negative thing you said about the old Walther PP series- expensive and not always reliable, but they sure look cool! I don't have one, but do have some cheap Hungarian clones of it- Two PA63s in 9x18 and one in 380. After Wolff Spring ugrades to them, none have failed. Maybe a spring upgrade for your Walther is in order.
Just picked one up about a week ago and it shoots the heavy stuff great! The lighter stuff not so much. Still, it's a great gun with more power than I would have thought. I lubed it up some and it ran the light stuff too. Drops steel plates just fine. Not as serious as my 10mm but that is a different animal all together.
@@tangolima6462 keltec has great idea....if only they worked. i call that a golden opportunity. though the foldy 9mm carbine thing i feel looks atrocious. This Near PMR30 seems pretty nice though.
I like 22 Magnum and I have a rifle and pistol chambered in 22 WMR. You are gaining 40 ft lbs of energy in a 5" pistol barrel 22 mag over a 22 LR. It's significant. But 22 WMR really shines out of a longer barrel; doubling and nearly tripling the energy of 22LR. Ballistics by the Inch has great test data. It's worth thinking about.
I've owned a PMR 30 for several years which is a fine little 22 mag. in my opinion.....however, this is a new deal all together. I'm getting one very soon and I can't wait to try it out. Since this is a hammer fired gun the trigger is much better than the Kel tec.......I tried it yesterday. Thanks for the video Plinkster.....good job as always man!
Get Your Facts strait my friend, the PMR30 is also a Hammer Fired Handgun! This S&W, I'm Sure is a Fine Quality Gun But Just a Copy of the PMR30 which is Now a Proven Great 22Magnum Handgun! "Greatest of all Time", I don't Think So!
@@stevekatz4372 You are correct that the PMR 30 is a hammer fired gun. I did not have my facts 'straight' on that. However is is not a copy of the Keltec. It has a totally different operating system....if its a copy of anything it would be of their M&P 5.7, which, I believe, has the same Tempo shrouded barrel system. Time will tell as to whether it's the 'Greatest of all time' I'm sure.
Looking forward to your comparison of this Smith and Wesson, the Walther WMP, and the Kel Tec PMR30. When you do that please include a discussion of how easy or difficult it is to load the magazines without causing a rim lock.
I think the problems with this gun is the mags, I know loading the kel tec mags is kinda tricky and when I have failures it’s usually my fault loading the dam mags lol. Thought for sure u we’re going to touch on that… great video as always plinkster👍👍
very happy with my wmp the controls…THE CONTROLS!!! having half a thumb on my left and dominant hand the mag releases!!! and love the trigger pull I throw tacks with that meat wagon
As with my RUGER Single Six using .22 WRM it is a LOUD cartridge - and yeah, it has a DEFINITE muzzle flame. But my Smih & Wesson M&P .22 mag pistol, in 250 rounds, and has never had a stoppage of failure to fire. I like it for its accuracy, especially with most 40 grain cartridges. Also the recoil is very light.
Great video, Big fan of .22Mag. I have many. I carry a NAA 22Mag. I do think to many under estimate this round. I have the same Riton Optic on my Ruger MarkII and love it. Boe
I'm in love with my Walther WMP as well. 15 Round mag limit is fine considering some States like Colorado have a 15 rd mag limit, so don't see me buying a S&W to take back to Colorado when I visit my family there.
I love mine, we shot 100 rounds through it and we're laughing the whole time...we had so much fun. No recoil and you could drive a tack at 20 yards...so crazy accurate.
.22wmr has the same pressure as the .22LR. But uses a slower powder. Since the case is very long, this creates problems in blowbacks. Tapping gas from such a low pressure usually don't work well either, since it tends to get dirty fast. At least that is my understanding of this.
You are exactly right. They both have very similar pressure numbers, which is around 24,000 psi. The only difference is the .22 magnum has a longer case to accept more powder. Therefore, the .22 magnum hits harder and has a flatter trajectory.
@@CandidZulu Yes, it does use a slower burning powder, but the longer case on the magnum allows it to shoot flatter and hit harder, because of more powder capacity on .22 magnum.
I have 3 pistols that shoot the 22wmr including the Smith tested here and they have all had failures to feed etc. They get somewhat better with break-in and they are great fun to shoot and the fireball is entertaining. But trust? Hmm...
Yeah, my S&W has lost my trust. Fires at BEST 3 rounds before failure to feed. Did they design this weapon to get better with age? Glad S&W doesn't make cars!
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This may be the best 22 mag semi auto pistol. But, I have a KelTec pmr30, I like it,it shoots my ammo I buy. If the S&W OR WALTHER HAD been out when,I,purchased my 30, I would have compared. I have some S&W and a Walther both 22 lr and 38s, but, I neither buy because of name or someone else’s recommend. That’s just me and I wish all 22 mag pistol/revolver buyers the best, much fun, and a happy journey in,life. Oh, plinkster, keep up the great videos. Oh my Remington 597 22 mag rifle is great too!
I have had the PMR for about 12 years, also a CMR for about 8 years. Last week I ordered two steel feed ramps from MCarbo. If that fixes the feed issues withthe PMR, then I am keeping it. The feed issues with the CMR are rare, but does happen. If the feed issues are not solved, then one of these pistols will be next.
I did the entire PMR Mcarbo upgrade kit, with the stainless steel feed lips. Mine runs like a champ! I replaced everything myself and it was difficult getting everything to line up together correctly putting it back, but I did it, and I'm proud to carry it, with my drone bag, when I'm out flying and it's nice to have a reliable pistol with lots of extra ammo just in case...
It is a bit tricky to do the Mcarbo kit but the video is very good. Mine didn’t run at first but the screws were too tight- and I really didn’t think I over tightened them.
Just got one a few weeks ago and was really excited. Remington ammo jammed like crazy (FTF) and so did Federal 50 grain HP. I did some honing of the bolt face and the ramp then the Remingtons feed now but Federal 50gr ammo is still a no go. Hornady 30-40 grain ammo works just fine. CCI 40 grain ammo is great too. Magazines are flimsy plastic. I can only get 29 rounds in mine with any brand of ammo and I suspect the mags could be a cause of feeding issues. Accuracy at 25yds is nothing to brag about. My trigger is a lawyer trigger. It's, heavy with creep and a lot of travel on the reset. I love the pistol in that caliber but a little more work needs to go into that pistol. S&W - plastic mags?? Come on Smith! I see some have had better experiences and mine may be a fluke but I am NOT happy with my M&P 22WMR - yet!.
I've had mine for about a month now. About 300 rounds through it. Of those 300 rounds I've had about 80 failure to feed. Not an exaggeration. It definitely does not like Armscor 40gr. jhp (ftf every 3-4 rounds). Better with CCI 40gr. jhp (ftf every 8-9 rounds) and better yet with Speer 40gr. gdhp (ftf every 12-15 rounds). Break-in period? We'll see.
i must have just gotten lucky, as my PMR-30 hasn't had any problems since day 1, no aftermarket kits, all factory and will magdump 30grain cci tnt ammo all day without any issues. ya its a huge fireballer, but seems to be a fluke as most seem to have problems.
In my opinion I think it's just a hit or miss with quality control with the PMR-30 after sending mine back to Kel-Tec they resolved my issues now the gun runs flawlessly. I love shooting my Smith & Wesson 22 magnum and my Kel-Tec. Both of them throw a very nice Fireball
Now you just said that's the most reliable but when you did the Walter you did have zero malfunctions with that pistol I remember cuz I wanted to buy one but it didn't have a trigger safety
This & the Springfield Echelon is my next pistol!!!! What a fun kick ass pistol!! The only thing is the price of .22 win mag, I have been buying it non stop almost 3 years, I have a bolt action wimpy 5 round magazine .22 win mag to match my son's .22 winchester Rascal!
I remember all of the rave reviews about the Sig P322, based on review pistol reviews. I bought one and regret it. I’m not saying S&W is the same kind of company as Sig, but I think Honest Outlaw’s experience is going to be much more the norm with this pistol than 22 Plinkster’s. I will wait on this, let you all test it in the wild, and see if anyone still likes it 6 months from now. It may need some chamber polishing, may just need to be broken in, or it may just be hard to make those long skinny rounds feed in a production pistol.
Check out Honest Outlaw's review on 5 weapons not to buy, and in that video, he had a Kel-Tech KS7. He said/showed it fall apart during firing it. He didn't have the magazine tube end cap screwed on or barely on. This made it "fall apart" That's pretty skewed and unfair in my opinion, regardless of which weapon it is. Same goes for shooting it "right out of the box". No inspection? didn't read the manual? And...NO LUBE. Who the hell does that? Too many gun tubers do this then show the weapon not working properly. Lubricate the weapon. It's mechanical. It's also in the manual. Just saying.
@@Turbogto_guy A barrel that leads up, constant light strikes, and magazines that have twice the capacity, but take 8 times longer to load than my Ruger. You CAN load them faster than that, but if you do, you will have stovepipes and various other feeding issues.
When you compare all of the .22 WMR pistols, please spend some time on the magazines and their reliability. My PMR-30 runs a lot better thanks to MCARBO but the magazines can still be a pain.
I really like this weapon and would love to own one, but I am baffled (no pun intended) on why they did not thread the barrel for a suppressor. The new barrel system is almost identical to the new S&W 5.7 and its barrel is threaded. Maybe (hopefully) S&W will come out with a threaded barrel for this model or maybe the Gen. 2... Thanks for your videos, I really enjoy them and you do a great job explaining the pros & cons of each weapon you feature in your videos. God bless you for your diligence.
Great review, thanks for sharing. The first one I saw caught my eye. After seeing this it is on bucket list for my gun of the year. If you ever get to Florida look me up. I am south of Tampa in Sarasota some of the best Tarpon fishing and big snook so come on down.
Hoooo boooy yo the man I picked me 1 up yesterday. Have been a pmr 30 guy forever. Bit I can say s&w has knocked it out with this baby man its a fine 1 may have to sell the pmr 30 great vid KEEP THEM COMIN my friend.
I'm liking this new SW platform. Undecided on 5.7 vs. 22wmr. But seems like a good tool have in the box. As far as the reliability, since SW sent you that gun, it's likely a cherry picked individual - so it would be strange if it was a jamomatic. Eitherway the concept is cool. Maybe add a threaded barrel and flash hider.
Dave... You're welcome. I told them last week when SW posted their video that they needed to get one in your hands asap. Ok, i know, they probably sent it to you several weeks ago. Hopefully they let you keep it. That let sootch keep his.
This is a great firearm platform for the .22 magnum, S&W hit it out of the park with this one. I love mine!
I own the Kel-Tec PMR-30 and now the Smith & Wesson 22 magnum both are great guns. I will say though with the Kel-Tec right out the box I was having feeding and failure to eject issues and I had shot over 300 rounds of CCI 40 grain ammo. Reached out to Kel-Tec sent the gun back, no cost out of my pocket and they resolved my issue's.With the Smith&Wesson I've shot just a hundred rounds so far with no issues. I love both guns very fun to shoot
The reason for the fireball is because the 22 WMR was initially designed for a 17 inch rifle barrel, so the powder is going out the end of the pistol barrel while it is still burning. The pressure for the WMR and 22LR are exactly the same at 24,000 psi. I've got the 3 22 Mags in the safe (revolver, semi pistol, semi rifle) Looks like I might soon have another. - Also need to get a lever gun in 22 wmr.
got the Ruger bolt, scoped , dont know if they still make, rotary magazine, this might become its sister
So a 22 lr and .22 magnum have psi 😮
@@Limejuice305 Huh?
@@Icutmetal the same psi
For example, if someone shoots your tire with either .22LR or WMR, the resulting psi will be the same. As to muzzle energy, Magnum is over doble that of LR.
For a 22WMR pistol, I recommend shooting Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel 40 gr JHP. It is actually designed for the shorter barrel. You get less fireball because it burns off in the barrel. When shooting a pistol with ammo designed for a rifle, you get a lot less velocity and a much bigger fireball.
I have to wonder what Speer has done to claim it's designed for a shorter barrel. Or is it just marketing to catch the recent introduction of new WMR's hitting the market. Not putting them down but the only thing would be the powder, it seems.
@@jimbosammy4255 yeah, they use faster burning powder like 300 whisper or 300 blackout
I love my Taurus 942 in 22 Mag revolver 8 shot. Handles very smooth.
I was kind of on the fence about this new 22 magnum but after watching your video, I’m gonna be shopping for one. Looks like a great gun. 😊
I held one the other day and the trigger break and reset are fantastic. I'm going to be getting one real soon.
I've watched several videos on this pistol. Some have had failure to feed issues ( but infrequently). There is a commonality in ALL the videos.....a giggle followed by a big smile. Enjoyed your video.
The fire ball is insane
Gun of the year is going to be a 22mag pistol??? Who would have ever imagined this a few years ago!!!!!
What u mean the PMR-30?
Me
Actually it only occurred to me when I got my wmr cylinder for my heritage, 3 reasons, size, price, and power of rounds
@@nodescriptionavailable3842 Reloading, my man.
@@nodescriptionavailable3842I’m with you, I put that WMR in my Heritage RR and man was I pleasantly surprised, what a mea ass little round. And my rifle uses the same ammo and of course it’s even meaner out of a rifle. 🐾✌️🇺🇸
By the way, Julie Goleb has a video out on this pistol that includes a list of ammo that functioned well during testing by S&W.
It would be interesting to know what the actual velocity is coming out of that handgun. The listed velocity is assuming a longer barrel like you would get from a riffle. I have had a Kel Tec PMR 30 for a few years and have put a few thousand rounds down range without any failure to feed. The keep is properly loading the mags. I look forward to seeing a head to head comparison between this and the PMR 30. This looks like it was inspired by the PMR 30.
@davidmack4185 Yeah, I'm having a bit of a hard time believing him, but will give the benefit of the doubt because internet. Rimfire in general is likely to malf sooner or later due in no part to the gun, at the very least. I have two Kel-Tecs- KSG and RDB. The former is picky with shell brands/types and the latter ran 2k rounds flawlessly until the hammer snapped. I like Kel-Tec, but don't trust their guns one fat smidge.
I've heard the same negative thing you said about the old Walther PP series- expensive and not always reliable, but they sure look cool! I don't have one, but do have some cheap Hungarian clones of it- Two PA63s in 9x18 and one in 380. After Wolff Spring ugrades to them, none have failed. Maybe a spring upgrade for your Walther is in order.
Maybe a little decibel comparison between the 9mm and the 22 mag? It’s definitely shooting out some huge fireballs! Great video as always
Yes decibel comparison please.
Loud vs louder
@@davidmack4185 Another potential issue is that rimfire does not have the shelf life of centerfire ammo.
I love the way I can hear you giggle sometimes when you mag-dump that thing!
I have my M&P 22 magnum, started out a little shaky but after 80rds smooth as butter. I'm now running Hornady critical defense 45 grain.
Just picked one up about a week ago and it shoots the heavy stuff great! The lighter stuff not so much. Still, it's a great gun with more power than I would have thought. I lubed it up some and it ran the light stuff too. Drops steel plates just fine. Not as serious as my 10mm but that is a different animal all together.
Looking forward to the 22 mag comparison video!
Interesting! Right now, my .22 magnum is an older Harrison & Richardson revolver with a 4 inch barrel and I love it!
you mean Harrington & Richardson
@@roberth378 Indeed I do! Thanks!
Reminds me of the Keltec 22 wmr that holds 30 rounds.
1:59 look forward to the comparing!
this is the 3rd keltec that s&w has straight knocked off.....but better. lol. weird time to be alive.
@@DieselRamchargerS&W saw how well it paid out for Ruger.
@@tangolima6462 keltec has great idea....if only they worked. i call that a golden opportunity. though the foldy 9mm carbine thing i feel looks atrocious. This Near PMR30 seems pretty nice though.
The S&W 22 magnum uses a gas system with the barrel in a sleeve. A variation of the S&W 5.7. It is not a copy of the Kel-tec.
@@andrewgee241 jesus christ you are dense.
I like 22 Magnum and I have a rifle and pistol chambered in 22 WMR.
You are gaining 40 ft lbs of energy in a 5" pistol barrel 22 mag over a 22 LR.
It's significant.
But 22 WMR really shines out of a longer barrel; doubling and nearly tripling the energy of 22LR.
Ballistics by the Inch has great test data.
It's worth thinking about.
I've owned a PMR 30 for several years which is a fine little 22 mag. in my opinion.....however, this is a new deal all together. I'm getting one very soon and I can't wait to try it out. Since this is a hammer fired gun the trigger is much better than the Kel tec.......I tried it yesterday. Thanks for the video Plinkster.....good job as always man!
My pmr30 has a great trigger.. plenty clean, crisp enough for a target/hunting pistol.
@@SLOCLMBRu must be the only one cuz the trigger on my is trash.. usable, but trash
Get Your Facts strait my friend, the PMR30 is also a Hammer Fired Handgun! This S&W, I'm Sure is a Fine Quality Gun But Just a Copy of the PMR30 which is Now a Proven Great 22Magnum Handgun! "Greatest of all Time", I don't Think So!
@@stevekatz4372 You are correct that the PMR 30 is a hammer fired gun. I did not have my facts 'straight' on that. However is is not a copy of the Keltec. It has a totally different operating system....if its a copy of anything it would be of their M&P 5.7, which, I believe, has the same Tempo shrouded barrel system. Time will tell as to whether it's the 'Greatest of all time' I'm sure.
I always have liked .22 magnum. CCI Maxi Mag
You Sir, I am sure that you were put on this earth to cost me money - endlessly! Great video, as always! 🇺🇲
Looking forward to your comparison of this Smith and Wesson, the Walther WMP, and the Kel Tec PMR30. When you do that please include a discussion of how easy or difficult it is to load the magazines without causing a rim lock.
I think the problems with this gun is the mags, I know loading the kel tec mags is kinda tricky and when I have failures it’s usually my fault loading the dam mags lol. Thought for sure u we’re going to touch on that… great video as always plinkster👍👍
very happy with my wmp the controls…THE CONTROLS!!! having half a thumb on my left and dominant hand the mag releases!!! and love the trigger pull I throw tacks with that meat wagon
As with my RUGER Single Six using .22 WRM it is a LOUD cartridge - and yeah, it has a DEFINITE muzzle flame.
But my Smih & Wesson M&P .22 mag pistol, in 250 rounds, and has never had a stoppage of failure to fire. I like it for its accuracy, especially with most 40 grain cartridges. Also the recoil is very light.
This pistol is a luxury, a dream come true!
First review that has a decent recording of the muzzle flash!!
I think the trouble some are having with this is hand placement preventing the slide to come all the way back. But who knows? I’ll be looking for one.
well no doubt just watching the walther mag way easier to load… fyi 22 plink you’re the reason I even looked or bought my wmp
Same here.
I WANT ONE!!!
The 1st firearm I ever shot was the 22mag back in the 70's, so obviously my 1st love.
Great video,
Big fan of .22Mag. I have many. I carry a NAA 22Mag. I do think to many under estimate this round. I have the same Riton Optic on my Ruger MarkII and love it. Boe
Your camera got the best part of shooting a 22 mag pistol, the flash!
A 50 grain 22 mag round 😮thats insane. I want this gun😊
I was curious about this pistol. I have a Walther WMP .22 Mag and love it!
I'm in love with my Walther WMP as well. 15 Round mag limit is fine considering some States like Colorado have a 15 rd mag limit, so don't see me buying a S&W to take back to Colorado when I visit my family there.
I love mine, we shot 100 rounds through it and we're laughing the whole time...we had so much fun. No recoil and you could drive a tack at 20 yards...so crazy accurate.
Looks like a fun gun to try. 9mm is the same price as 22wmr ammo where i live.
.22wmr has the same pressure as the .22LR. But uses a slower powder. Since the case is very long, this creates problems in blowbacks. Tapping gas from such a low pressure usually don't work well either, since it tends to get dirty fast. At least that is my understanding of this.
Thanks for the info!
You are exactly right. They both have very similar pressure numbers, which is around 24,000 psi. The only difference is the .22 magnum has a longer case to accept more powder. Therefore, the .22 magnum hits harder and has a flatter trajectory.
@@malcolmpayne9517 The key difference is that it's a slower powder. Desert dog has a good video on the .22WMR
@@CandidZulu Yes, it does use a slower burning powder, but the longer case on the magnum allows it to shoot flatter and hit harder, because of more powder capacity on .22 magnum.
@@22plinkster lol
I have 3 pistols that shoot the 22wmr including the Smith tested here and they have all had failures to feed etc. They get somewhat better with break-in and they are great fun to shoot and the fireball is entertaining. But trust? Hmm...
Yeah, my S&W has lost my trust. Fires at BEST 3 rounds before failure to feed. Did they design this weapon to get better with age? Glad S&W doesn't make cars!
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Bet 22plinkster keeps this one.
This may be the best 22 mag semi auto pistol. But, I have a KelTec pmr30, I like it,it shoots my ammo I buy. If the S&W OR WALTHER HAD been out when,I,purchased my 30, I would have compared. I have some S&W and a Walther both 22 lr and 38s, but, I neither buy because of name or someone else’s recommend. That’s just me and I wish all 22 mag pistol/revolver buyers the best, much fun, and a happy journey in,life. Oh, plinkster, keep up the great videos. Oh my Remington 597 22 mag rifle is great too!
Great to see the 22mag. Market expanding
I can’t pay over $600 for a 22 mag. My Walther was only $400 and it’s a beast
Flash, Bang! It's like a 22. and a Dragon's Breath!
Wow. That’s a really nice Gun. I like the way it did.
I have had the PMR for about 12 years, also a CMR for about 8 years. Last week I ordered two steel feed ramps from MCarbo. If that fixes the feed issues withthe PMR, then I am keeping it. The feed issues with the CMR are rare, but does happen. If the feed issues are not solved, then one of these pistols will be next.
I did the entire PMR Mcarbo upgrade kit, with the stainless steel feed lips. Mine runs like a champ! I replaced everything myself and it was difficult getting everything to line up together correctly putting it back, but I did it, and I'm proud to carry it, with my drone bag, when I'm out flying and it's nice to have a reliable pistol with lots of extra ammo just in case...
@@ninjadave1970 Good info, thanks for sharing.
It's nuts to think they've been out that long.
@@bdkj3e In the meantime, stacking .22 WMR
It is a bit tricky to do the Mcarbo kit but the video is very good. Mine didn’t run at first but the screws were too tight- and I really didn’t think I over tightened them.
Big fan of the .22 magnum round and love my Keltec PMR-30. Sure would love to see Ruger bring back the 10/22 magnum.
Your smile says a lot right off the bat
Just got one a few weeks ago and was really excited. Remington ammo jammed like crazy (FTF) and so did Federal 50 grain HP. I did some honing of the bolt face and the ramp then the Remingtons feed now but Federal 50gr ammo is still a no go. Hornady 30-40 grain ammo works just fine. CCI 40 grain ammo is great too. Magazines are flimsy plastic. I can only get 29 rounds in mine with any brand of ammo and I suspect the mags could be a cause of feeding issues. Accuracy at 25yds is nothing to brag about. My trigger is a lawyer trigger. It's, heavy with creep and a lot of travel on the reset. I love the pistol in that caliber but a little more work needs to go into that pistol. S&W - plastic mags?? Come on Smith! I see some have had better experiences and mine may be a fluke but I am NOT happy with my M&P 22WMR - yet!.
Wish they would make the Victory in .22 mag.
But this one looks good.
awesome video Thanks
Just picked one up and tried it, love it! Accurate, and man what flames! 🔥
Looking forward to the walther comparison!
I've seen mixed reviews as well, don't know yet. I'll want the 648 first then look into getting this one later.
I've had mine for about a month now. About 300 rounds through it. Of those 300 rounds I've had about 80 failure to feed. Not an exaggeration. It definitely does not like Armscor 40gr. jhp (ftf every 3-4 rounds). Better with CCI 40gr. jhp (ftf every 8-9 rounds) and better yet with Speer 40gr. gdhp (ftf every 12-15 rounds). Break-in period? We'll see.
My favorite magnum!!
It sounds and looks awesome and it looks like it feels awesome to shoot
Keltec is the beta tester for the industry lol. Glad to see SW came out with this 😊
Your mic is insanely good at picking up the timber of the gunshots
i must have just gotten lucky, as my PMR-30 hasn't had any problems since day 1, no aftermarket kits, all factory and will magdump 30grain cci tnt ammo all day without any issues. ya its a huge fireballer, but seems to be a fluke as most seem to have problems.
In my opinion I think it's just a hit or miss with quality control with the PMR-30 after sending mine back to Kel-Tec they resolved my issues now the gun runs flawlessly. I love shooting my Smith & Wesson 22 magnum and my Kel-Tec. Both of them throw a very nice Fireball
It’s the gun of the day I’ve seen two videos and one just got there’s so one more in a few days.
@22plinkster__ really
Plinkster is as Plinkster does! Fun video. Thanks.
Yeah that's a loud pop! 😲
It also appears to have as much recoil (or more) as the 9mm.
I REALLY want this and the 5.7, but sadly I live in California, all I can do is hope the roster goes the way of the Dodo soon.
Or move to a freedom state like Texas.
@@davidbolduc828 why does everyone tho k it's that easy 🤔. 😂
Great review enjoyed it thanks
This is the video I've been waiting on since I heard about this gun. Very much ready to find one in my local gun store.
Very nice.
Now all we need it run it through Paul's meat target and a crono.
They knocked it out of the park with the M&P5.7
22 mag is pretty powerful I like it! like the cal. as well Its a great round
Now you just said that's the most reliable but when you did the Walter you did have zero malfunctions with that pistol I remember cuz I wanted to buy one but it didn't have a trigger safety
Looks like the PMR 30, loves this tac driver!
One of my favorites was the Ruger 22mag. peacemaker!❤.
some of these from S&W require a bit of buffing on the feed ramp. Some have a little lip\bur After a little sand paper they should cycle fine
This & the Springfield Echelon is my next pistol!!!! What a fun kick ass pistol!! The only thing is the price of .22 win mag, I have been buying it non stop almost 3 years, I have a bolt action wimpy 5 round magazine .22 win mag to match my son's .22 winchester Rascal!
I remember all of the rave reviews about the Sig P322, based on review pistol reviews. I bought one and regret it. I’m not saying S&W is the same kind of company as Sig, but I think Honest Outlaw’s experience is going to be much more the norm with this pistol than 22 Plinkster’s. I will wait on this, let you all test it in the wild, and see if anyone still likes it 6 months from now. It may need some chamber polishing, may just need to be broken in, or it may just be hard to make those long skinny rounds feed in a production pistol.
Check out Honest Outlaw's review on 5 weapons not to buy, and in that video, he had a Kel-Tech KS7. He said/showed it fall apart during firing it. He didn't have the magazine tube end cap screwed on or barely on. This made it "fall apart" That's pretty skewed and unfair in my opinion, regardless of which weapon it is. Same goes for shooting it "right out of the box". No inspection? didn't read the manual? And...NO LUBE. Who the hell does that? Too many gun tubers do this then show the weapon not working properly. Lubricate the weapon. It's mechanical. It's also in the manual. Just saying.
Why do you regret the p322?
@@Joeak74my rule of thumb is to not buy/trust anything keltec. It’s garbage. I speak from experience.
@@Turbogto_guy
A barrel that leads up, constant light strikes, and magazines that have twice the capacity, but take 8 times longer to load than my Ruger. You CAN load them faster than that, but if you do, you will have stovepipes and various other feeding issues.
@@danlindgren4290 you can shim the firing pin spring. That got rid of most of the issues.
Love the blast effect on this thing. Think I'm going to get one.
Love your vids Brother, I always find them very informative & fun to watch. Keep up the awesome work you do. Peace & God bless🤠🙏🙏🙏
I was looking at this on Yoki Stirrups video....I like this pistol, and love the caliber too.
I think this gun will be a winner for s,/w in 22 mag.
Now I want one
Nice fireworks 💥
Looking forward to the comparison video. Thank you.
That thing is shooting flames!!!
I was wondering what else S&W would use a long, thin framed hammerless pistol for, and 22 Magnum is a pretty perfect use.
@22plinkster__ aww, no way man! What did I win?!?!?!?
When you compare all of the .22 WMR pistols, please spend some time on the magazines and their reliability.
My PMR-30 runs a lot better thanks to MCARBO but the magazines can still be a pain.
H&K introduced a similar operating pistol decades ago...
I wish they'd make some compact or subcompact 22 magnums
I really like this weapon and would love to own one, but I am baffled (no pun intended) on why they did not thread the barrel for a suppressor. The new barrel system is almost identical to the new S&W 5.7 and its barrel is threaded. Maybe (hopefully) S&W will come out with a threaded barrel for this model or maybe the Gen. 2... Thanks for your videos, I really enjoy them and you do a great job explaining the pros & cons of each weapon you feature in your videos. God bless you for your diligence.
Hell, they should thread the barrel for a flash suppressor!
I agree, I've had the Walther and the Kel Tec but without a suppressor, count me out!
I have never needed a gun more than this one 😢
0:02 doubles as a flash bang 🤙🏽😂
For those of you who have handled one, is the grip angle 1911ish
I love the fireballs
Great review, thanks for sharing. The first one I saw caught my eye. After seeing this it is on bucket list for my gun of the year.
If you ever get to Florida look me up. I am south of Tampa in Sarasota some of the best Tarpon fishing and big snook so come on down.
Hoooo boooy yo the man I picked me 1 up yesterday. Have been a pmr 30 guy forever. Bit I can say s&w has knocked it out with this baby man its a fine 1 may have to sell the pmr 30 great vid KEEP THEM COMIN my friend.
I'm liking this new SW platform. Undecided on 5.7 vs. 22wmr. But seems like a good tool have in the box. As far as the reliability, since SW sent you that gun, it's likely a cherry picked individual - so it would be strange if it was a jamomatic. Eitherway the concept is cool. Maybe add a threaded barrel and flash hider.
Dave... You're welcome.
I told them last week when SW posted their video that they needed to get one in your hands asap.
Ok, i know, they probably sent it to you several weeks ago. Hopefully they let you keep it. That let sootch keep his.
AMT Automag for LIFE!!! But the S&W is cool.
I agree watched it all!
That 22mag is a nice little flame theower❤
Perfect air Marshall gun