Hafthor RUPTURES PEC - Doctor Reacts to Thor Bjornsson Injury

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  • @WarlordRising
    @WarlordRising ปีที่แล้ว +69

    This guy released an in depth analysis of the injury only a few hours after it happened. Respect.

    • @Xathos
      @Xathos 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know, it's almost like he's an expert like a sports medicine medical doctor.

  • @Glaedr11
    @Glaedr11 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    Dang man. I just saw his new squat video. I was kind of afraid of this. He lost so much weight to box and then started lifting heavy again and he was increasing weight so fast. I was just hoping his massive body would handle it but shows there are limits to every body

    • @antinataliz9633
      @antinataliz9633 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not the smartest way to progress, for someone with so many years of lifting experience.

    • @HeCoversMe
      @HeCoversMe ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@antinataliz9633 you can blame his trainer they should be aware of this. I watched his trainer in squat sessions and I thought his input was horrible. I could see on video Thor was barely making depth and sure enough he got 3 reds on his final attempt in squat at the meet. He looked weaker in the squat at his meet too. I’m guessing they pushed his training too close to competition day.

    • @smokedadi6984
      @smokedadi6984 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HeCoversMe yeah need new trainer

    • @doctorfimosis9987
      @doctorfimosis9987 ปีที่แล้ว

      A 45 years old natural spanish dude bench 230kg and never get injured, his name is jesus varela

    • @pshngo
      @pshngo ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like he gets to act in WWE for the rest of his career

  • @78town
    @78town ปีที่แล้ว +132

    I also believe an issue is that he didn’t give his body enough time to adapt to going back on powerlifting “cycles”

    • @bdegrds
      @bdegrds ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Has nothing to do with it

    • @thepigmanlives6721
      @thepigmanlives6721 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @@bdegrds has everything to do with it.

    • @78town
      @78town ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@bdegrds absolutely does

    • @cosmicbilly
      @cosmicbilly ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@bdegrdsbro you're commenting this bs everywhere.
      Just say you're clueless because you're just making yourself look stupid.

    • @jimbob4456
      @jimbob4456 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Definitely does

  • @thanasis-_-
    @thanasis-_- ปีที่แล้ว +453

    He was progressing too fast and his tendons couldn't keep up

    • @anonnymous31
      @anonnymous31 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yeah, he's getting strong fast I've been watching his livestreams

    • @bdegrds
      @bdegrds ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Not that simple

    • @kraxos239
      @kraxos239 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How do you get the tendons in pec stronger? Lighter weights more reps?

    • @lukasenberg3756
      @lukasenberg3756 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      @@kraxos239 Tendons adapt slower than muscles, and on juice these ratio difference its higher; primarily because tendons dont have the same blood supply as muscles have. They just need more time to adapt and recover.

    • @thanasis-_-
      @thanasis-_- ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@kraxos239 you need to add weight slowly to give them time to catch up, because tendons unlike muscles don't get supplied with blood the same way muscles do.

  • @Me-rj4vx
    @Me-rj4vx ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hello Doc, Excellent presentation and swift reaction time from the moment of the incident. You have just earned another subscriber. Well done. J.😊

  • @reisslindhardt9441
    @reisslindhardt9441 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Wow you came out with this fast! I’m a big fan of Hafthor and it was awful to see this today. This is a great video! Earned a sub

  • @michaelchecco8745
    @michaelchecco8745 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love that you went into detail with that U shaped structure, and pointing out different schools of thought for steroids and tendon ruptures. I almost always come away from your videos learning something, but this was more novel than usual!

  • @pseudopetrus
    @pseudopetrus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Dr. Brian, I hope Hafthor heals well.

  • @jacquesmaritz
    @jacquesmaritz ปีที่แล้ว

    Really informative video on this. Thank you!

  • @christianmw9540
    @christianmw9540 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was fascinating. Thank you.

  • @HeCoversMe
    @HeCoversMe ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was awesome doc…great presentation

  • @davidlangston9595
    @davidlangston9595 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think we all saw that coming with his sudden jump back into crazy weight after focusing on speed and endurance for over a year.

  • @spikethebulldoghackett70
    @spikethebulldoghackett70 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent explanation a view of the tear, couldn't tell in other videos

  • @GraphicalBoss
    @GraphicalBoss ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What is most important and everyone should know is that for most of these types pectoralis major injuries happen after coming back to lifting as hard as you used too.
    You may still feel you have the same strengths but your muscles are ready yet.
    I had surgery done by Dr. Mora who also has a youtube channel and does alot of surgery on ufc fighters...
    By the way many Doctors in NC told me you couldn't have surgery there and just offered medication for the pain. Dr. Mora is amazing and so experienced and told me it was possible to repair it

  • @406dn7
    @406dn7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for an educational video. You gained another subscriber.

  • @demetriuscooksey7147
    @demetriuscooksey7147 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    When I tore mine, I got 3 different Dr opinions, and they all told me the same thing. Your heavy lifting days are over. And they were right, I've never been able to press anything close to what I could before the injury.

    • @ozsnowbum
      @ozsnowbum ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeh he's done

    • @kallelund4487
      @kallelund4487 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      damn man sorry to hear, a curious question. when you try lifting heavy does it just say stop in the range of motion or it hurts or what makes it that u cant seem to get heavy again on pressing? thanks

    • @demetriuscooksey7147
      @demetriuscooksey7147 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @kalle lund it feels weaker, but if I push it too hard it hurts like a SOB. The pec/shoulder insertion is probably 1/3 the size of the other side.

    • @kallelund4487
      @kallelund4487 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@demetriuscooksey7147 wow okey, damn what a bad place to get a injury on :( thanks for your time answer me.

    • @demetriuscooksey7147
      @demetriuscooksey7147 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @kalle lund before it tore I did 285 incline bench for a double. After the tear the most I've ever done is 185 for a double. That felt scary tbh. Like I was gonna re-tear it. I do lower weight now for more reps in all my pressing exercises. The other thing is pull-ups. I can't do them fast, if I drop down to full extension it feels like it's gonna tear. FYI it happened 15 years ago. The surrounding muscles DO compensate quite a bit, but you still gotta be cautious.

  • @shelbysmama4974
    @shelbysmama4974 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Still hoping you'll give Mallory Swanson's torn patellar tendon some video time. Definitely one of the rarer sports injuries. Especially in soccer.

    • @theprophet25
      @theprophet25 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I ruptured the patellar in both knees

    • @antinataliz9633
      @antinataliz9633 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@theprophet25 jesus, how? I'd bet it was traumatizing. Did it end your sports career, if u had one?

    • @LiberatedMind1
      @LiberatedMind1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theprophet25 Yikes. I have inflammation in my patellar tendons, I think from overuse.

    • @ObeseGorilla229
      @ObeseGorilla229 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tf is soccer lmao it's called football and who the hell is Mallory swanan

  • @margomaloney6016
    @margomaloney6016 ปีที่แล้ว

    VERY good explanation - thank you! :)

  • @xXAlmdudlerXx
    @xXAlmdudlerXx ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man you are hard core. I study medicine myself and Im amazed how you can play that clip forth and back without even cringing a bit :D

  • @kylemeinert1352
    @kylemeinert1352 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always, great video Dr. Sutterer, very informative! It sounds like someone has a newborn in the house? Listen to the background between 5:50-6:05

  • @bradleyrobinson7552
    @bradleyrobinson7552 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're The Man, Dr.Sutterer.

  • @user-jp7ni5xv1r
    @user-jp7ni5xv1r ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thor can absolutely come back and recover from this. Kevin Levrone during his comeback, tore his pec on incline bench. After repairing it he was able to bench 500lbs on incline. Kevin was over 40. Haftor isn't that close to 40, so he has plenty of time on his side.

    • @bigroncoleman11
      @bigroncoleman11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That would have been a very minor injury for Kevin, not a full detachment like we see here with Thor.

    • @markjackson3531
      @markjackson3531 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bigroncoleman11 What makes you say that?

    • @doublebassrox
      @doublebassrox 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bigroncoleman11 He actually tore both tendons and had 2 surgeries which is uncommon. Full recovery and won several titles after! I just had surgery for mine.

  • @Nirsterkur
    @Nirsterkur ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Dear Dr. Sutterer, based on the 3 types of possible tears, approximately how long will it take to fully recover, in each 3 cases? What are the best locations to do the surgery? Thank you.

    • @stoneeh
      @stoneeh ปีที่แล้ว +5

      (1) Tendon tear at the bone potential full recovery within about a year. Major (2) muscle to tendon or (3) intramuscular tear almost impossible to recover to 100% strength / functionality.

  • @johnsotelo3125
    @johnsotelo3125 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Rushing progress, not enough rest, got to take your time. Hope he recoveres.lesson learned

    • @ryutenmen
      @ryutenmen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This may be just myth as the tendons dont benefit from trainings as there's not significant vascularisation in it, therefore they wont grow in size and/or strengths, and they dont get repaired back by themselves in an efficient way like muscles do. So training or not, the tendons stay kind of the same.

    • @johnsotelo3125
      @johnsotelo3125 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Train smart, not foolishly., when you rush progress and want results fast. Your not preventing an accident, you are the accident,

    • @LiberatedMind1
      @LiberatedMind1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ryutenmen If that were so people wouldn't be able to lift so much weight as they can overtime. Tendons don't stay the same, they just take way longer to grow.

    • @ryutenmen
      @ryutenmen ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LiberatedMind1 Ok, lets take your..."argument" and dissect it and see where it will lead to - what is the basis for your statement, some scientific proofs, or just an ad-hominem aimed at preserving some phantasm?
      Lots of people throw statements easily hoping it will be enough to convince his opponent of his "truth", but much less people will base their statements on arguments, and even less on pertinent arguments.
      Which one are you?

  • @dekev7503
    @dekev7503 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I have chest day tomorrow, this shit made me re-evaluate my life 😢😅😮

    • @Ouroboross-
      @Ouroboross- ปีที่แล้ว +15

      As long as you aren’t on gear the probability of you tearing a muscle as a natural when lifting is highly unlikely.

    • @jp23x
      @jp23x ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Don't ego lift or max out every day and you'll be find

    • @Idiotsincarshere
      @Idiotsincarshere ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If you’re natty, even if you ego lift or max out daily, the worst thing that may happen is tendinitis. Just be careful with squats and deadlifts as your back could be snap city

    • @Florida_man21
      @Florida_man21 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Make sure to let your body FULLY recover before starting another day. Over use will eventually catch up and it won't be a good day

    • @wombat5252
      @wombat5252 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Ouroboross- Loads of people still tear their muscle without any gear at all. Like the doctor said in the past, your tendon is at its weakest point when your muscle belly is FULLY extended. That's why I don't fully extend if going heavier. You don't NEED to go 100% full range, your muscle doesn't need that much range to build mass.

  • @B3nkeii
    @B3nkeii ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doc, can you do an anatomy video about how to bench most safely?

  • @zakazan8561
    @zakazan8561 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    In regard to lower body tendon ruptures and steroid use, a simple explanation for that is just the fact that there are limiting factors to loading the lower muscles, like spinal compression in like a squat or deadlift. Those tendons also happen to be a lot larger and on top of that, people, especially males, tend to have very poor hip mobility, so they aren't stretching those tendons and putting them under such eccentric load like what happens with the upper body in a movement like a bench press, or in regards to the biceps, something like a preacher curl. No one is competitively loading in plantar or hip flexion, nor are they competitively loading knee extension to tear any of the anterior leg tendons, and I doubt many people are competitively loading knee flexion to tear their hamstrings either. The main lower body movements tend to just be deadlifts and squats which are both mostly concentric movements. Romanian deadlifts, an eccentric glute exercise, aren't a competition movement. So it may be accurate that the steroids are causing some form of deleterious remodelling of the tendon and I would be interested to know how many of these athletes consume collagen proteins or if their diet is mainly muscle proteins as the repetitive loads from both the increased muscle size and the increased weight constantly pull on the tendons and the body just can't keep up with the constant micro damage and the result is some form of tendinopathy.

  • @CoffeeonKorriban
    @CoffeeonKorriban ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Studio setup looks awesome, Doc. Also, you're way too fast with these vids. Much appreciated. 🤘☕

  • @BarryLevanBondsSaginashvili
    @BarryLevanBondsSaginashvili ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well that first angle certainly says it all. 😬

  • @jason7231
    @jason7231 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Very impressed.

  • @chrisolson3240
    @chrisolson3240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just the wear and tear of power lifting for 20+ years takes a tremendous toll on the body. This video is good information for those in this type of stratosphere of lifting. Though, this can occur at lesser levels too.

  • @Brinelious
    @Brinelious ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful and well explained, thank you!
    Also, if anyone thinks they want to go watch the video of the injury for themselves, forewarning you can hear the snap loudly. I don't usually get queasy, but I would not want to watch it again.

  • @johnpymn9869
    @johnpymn9869 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff !!

  • @OO7-
    @OO7- ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So Sad, get well soon Thor

  • @alionintights4074
    @alionintights4074 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At this very moment Doucette is editing his videO on this pec tear getting ready to say "I FREAKING TOLD YOU SO"

  • @yamagishisan
    @yamagishisan ปีที่แล้ว

    @Brian Sutterer MD
    May I ask which program you are using to view the human body?

  • @tomwest5107
    @tomwest5107 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    definitely thought that intro was going somewhere else; "we all remember him from his days of.."
    "crushing skulls in game of thrones"

  • @user1111AB
    @user1111AB ปีที่แล้ว +4

    bench press is the most vulnerable position you can put the tendon into.

    • @deltalima6703
      @deltalima6703 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure bro. If you say so.

    • @user-jp7ni5xv1r
      @user-jp7ni5xv1r ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deltalima6703 it is lol. incline bench in comparison is a lot safer, primarily because you cant lift the same weight as you do on flat.

    • @thischannelhasanameright1954
      @thischannelhasanameright1954 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-jp7ni5xv1r Yeah right, lol, you clearly never heard of Ryan Crowley, who tore and propelled his whole half of peck doing incline.

  • @MrEverisforever
    @MrEverisforever ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It would be interesting to see a graph of pec tears on natural athletes vs untested ones.
    I've seen natural lifters tear pecs too, from my experience of investigating these situations it seems to happen when there is a huge shift in weight. This can come from someone returning to the bench press after not benching for a long time or a natural lifter with amazing genetics gaining strength too fast for their tendons to handle (example Nick Wright).
    I've personally never torn a pec but I have strained mine 4 times, for me this came from dehydration and too high bench volume at a high intensity but most importantly, not progressing slowly from week to week. Now with proper programming, slowly progressing each week I can bench around 24 sets per week and no injuries in over a year ( touch wood).
    My advice is to never progress too fast on bench and make sure you warm up and if you do high volume, warm up tonit slowly over a long period of time.

    • @Ridikuluzt
      @Ridikuluzt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is solid advice! I agree! Don’t be in a rush to lift so heavy and do PRs all the time. The human body is capable of a lot of things but people fail to recognize that building muscle requires training over a period of time and solid growth, like 10 pounds more over the course of months, but if you are extending yourself considerably, you need to be sure, the growth matches your nutritional intake. It is very difficult to add 50 pounds more to your bench press in a week or so, because your body has not yet become very comfortable adjusting to 50 pounds more or so. A gradual increase in weight be, 10 pounds, is still something that should be celebrated. Because if you are in a rush to lift heavy and double PRs when your body has not confirmed to the weight something like a torn pec is possible. Being properly hydrated, rested and warmed up is also very very helpful in increasing the amount of pounds increased as well. Really, solid advice!

    • @antonseoane9092
      @antonseoane9092 ปีที่แล้ว

      Obviously the risk of injury is not linear, when you are pushing extreme weights (that you can only get to by using steroids) the risks are disproportionately higuer, it's just physics and a part of the game, we are animals meant for survival not machines made for competiton

  • @lawrencebaker1811
    @lawrencebaker1811 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is always the risk when blasting PED's and pushing strength gain to the max. I've been weight training for 19 years naturally and had one major injury, sure I "only" bench 205kg and deadlift 300kg but aiming for 5-10kg every year is fine for me. Even if its very slow, its still linear progression.

    • @HeCoversMe
      @HeCoversMe ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Stay clean Lawrence much respect

    • @austinfair23
      @austinfair23 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      “only bench 205kg” That’s super impressive man, top 0.01% bench!

    • @LiberatedMind1
      @LiberatedMind1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sharp plan

  • @Mcthindi
    @Mcthindi ปีที่แล้ว

    Yesterday i watch compitition video and today this !

  • @Strength_from_another_world
    @Strength_from_another_world ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good info 👍

  • @jymmidean22
    @jymmidean22 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is his hand position on the bar of any consequence? He is a bigger person, but his elbows are almost parallel with the bar.

  • @dalemartin5133
    @dalemartin5133 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nothing about Mallory Swanson patellar tear for uswnt last week?

  • @dangeiger9796
    @dangeiger9796 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do a video on O’Neil Cruz’ leg injury

  • @Belver97
    @Belver97 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    had it happen to me, seeing it live made me shiver xD

  • @c.o2307
    @c.o2307 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a powerlifting and this is one of my worst fears. How do I prevent this, it looks like it can happen to anyone going for a PR

  • @monkeeee
    @monkeeee ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching this before push day

  • @drevil2675
    @drevil2675 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a Lisandro Martínez injury video ?

  • @danielostman5805
    @danielostman5805 ปีที่แล้ว

    That shit sucks. I tore the tendant in my shoulder a couple years ago, that shit is still bothering me from time to time. Same with my bicep.

  • @rickiovine2170
    @rickiovine2170 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    There is another issue about this injury, and it is a Perfect Storm of circumstances. First, Thor altered his training drastically when he took up boxing to fight Eddie Hall. The boxing training; hitting the heavy bag; hitting the mitts, sparring, etc. certainly made changes in a body that had been dedicated to world class strength. Second, bench pressing was not an event in Strongman so it is doubtful that Thor did much bench pressing as he prepared for Worlds, or the Arnold’s. Third, competition lifting is always very different than training, no matter how hard you try to simulate it. Watch how many judges are watching the bar to make certain it is lowered to the proper depth and not bounced off the chest. No competitor wants a ‘no lift’ because he came a half inch short of depth.
    THOR HAD NEVER DONE THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF LIFT IN HIS ENTIRE LIFE! He was attempting a weight he had never done in a competitive setting where he is following the strict scrutiny of judges. He never lowered that much weight at that control to that depth. Every man has his limits, and Thor certainly succeeded in finding exactly where the limit was in that particular tendon by doing exactly what it took to bring it to failure. Unfortunately, there is no way to anticipate when this will happen; especially when you are going for a PR. You have never lifted that much weight before. How can you know if you are going beyond your limits?

    • @stoneeh
      @stoneeh ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. He and his team were actually aware of this to some degree and did intentionally slow progress down somewhat.. but obviously not enough. World class competitive strength sports are always a gamble anyway, not matter how cautious you try to be.

    • @coen071993
      @coen071993 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He did though. He has done a powerlifting competition before the boxing. He got 250kg then. As for how you can know if you are going beyond your limits? You can't. However, you could tell in advance that this was not smart. His bodyweight is 20kg lighter than when he set his previous PR. Back then he was consistently training for strength for years leading up to that point. Now he has taken a long time off from lifting very heavy weights. After that you have to take your time before you start increasing the weights. They simply added too much weight too quickly. He was gaining a few kg bodyweight a week leading up to this. He may be able to build tremendous amounts of muscle and his nervous system might be able to keep up with that, but tendons don't take that well. They could have known a PR while being 20kg lighter after a long time away from heavy weights could cause this. Unfortunately it is difficult to say no to setting a PR if you know you have it.

    • @bruuhhhh
      @bruuhhhh ปีที่แล้ว

      Depth isn't exactly an issue on bench it either touches your chest or it doesn't. Also he did bench 250 back before and the 2.5kg was not going past his limit, 99% the same thing would have happened with 250 this time. This was all about how fast he got strong imo.

    • @rickiovine2170
      @rickiovine2170 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coen071993 : Great analysis. Your pointing out that he had done powerlifting competition during that time between his retiring from Strongman to when he began serious training for boxing is key to trying to understand his injury. I was unaware of this, and I do follow Powerlifting (I was actually a judge). Do you have the results of any of those competitions? I was curious about his squat. Thanks!

    • @rickiovine2170
      @rickiovine2170 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bruuhhhh: Depth is a huge issue in bench pressing because it involves the lowering of the bar which is all eccentric. Not only do you have get to depth, which is indicated when the bar touches the chest but doesn’t rest on it. The torso is not allowed to support the weight, even for a nanosecond. When we judge the bench we are looking at this with strict scrutiny. I had to signal a ‘no lift’ for resting the bar, or, bouncing the bar, off the chest on a successful PR lift. (We never let the competitor know until he completes the lift. It is too dangerous to mess with his head at the most critical point in benching: the transfer from eccentric (lowering) to concentric (the push). It is tough and heartbreaking when it is done, but the serious competitors want it this way. It keeps a level playing field. It doesn’t mean that we don’t get some very big, strong men mad at us. The top guys never argue. It is the others because they have made it a habit in practice to bounce the bar. They don’t get taken to task by their spotters, and when the weight is up with the big boys they have never really lifted it correctly.
      Ok. I’m done. Sorry so long!

  • @vanillagorilla9841
    @vanillagorilla9841 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not only Hafthor but Brian Shaw is down for injuries

    • @J.c410
      @J.c410 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brian got his infection in january dude

  • @chrism45
    @chrism45 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    As a strongman he's not had experience with heavy perpendicular pressess since the sport usually opts for vertical pressing. This means his chest tendons never received the years of strengthening all his other tendons have had, especially in an overextended position. Rushing to do a powerlifting competition 3-4 weeks back to heavy training and probably full on PED use may have been a mistake. Regardless, I think he'll recover pretty well and this may be his first major injury.

    • @branominal8564
      @branominal8564 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Iirc he did heavy dumbbell presses as accessories for overhead, so it's not like he didn't do them, but definitely not this heavy
      I agree he rushed his progress though, dude went from 970 in December to what could have been 1100 today in 4 months

    • @user-jp7ni5xv1r
      @user-jp7ni5xv1r ปีที่แล้ว

      @@branominal8564 his dumbell presses werent nowhere near heavy enough dude. hes benching 6 plates whilst pressing 70kg tops dumbells on incline? LOL. try 80-90kg.

    • @coen071993
      @coen071993 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-jp7ni5xv1r The funny part about that is it showing how specific strength is. I am pretty sure when he set his previous PR at 250kg 4 years ago or something, he was a higher bodyweight but he also obviously came from the strongman training. Strongman involves a lot of shoulder strength, as do incline dbs and back then I think he even did 100kg dumbbells for some solid reps. Now he could bench more while doing a decent bit less on the incline db presses.

    • @branominal8564
      @branominal8564 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-jp7ni5xv1r dude... are you serious?
      Firstly a 70kg dumbbell bench is attainable natural, and Thor is juiced to the gills, not to mention one of the strongest people to have ever walked the planet.
      Second, he's literally got footage of him doing reps with 100kg on a low incline multiple times
      Thirdly, the guy benched 255 and strict pressed 200 overhead, what world do you live in where that equates to "70kg tops"?

  • @theJourneynfc
    @theJourneynfc ปีที่แล้ว

    Same injury here. sucks af. but hell be good in a couple months

  • @10ktube
    @10ktube ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Props to Thor for calmly knowing his body, and to the spotters for picking that weight up off of him. Hope he comes back stronger.

    • @GardenGuy1943
      @GardenGuy1943 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’d be surprised if he does. He’ll still be strong, but not stronger.

    • @brandonchin9873
      @brandonchin9873 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Knowing his body? 🤔 He literally tried to attempt a PR and injured himself in the process

    • @10ktube
      @10ktube ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brandonchin9873 I meant for not pushing through the popped tendon, calling for help VS being dumb. The dumb part already happened long before.

    • @electrikoptik
      @electrikoptik ปีที่แล้ว

      @@10ktube If it's a full tear or heck even a partial tear, you'll never come back stronger before the tear. That's the unfortunate reality of these types of tear.

    • @kevinathans4191
      @kevinathans4191 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@electrikoptik Yup. I tore mine. Has never been the same.

  • @eddiegainz1673
    @eddiegainz1673 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn! Tomorrow morning i'm hitting Chest and now feeling lil nervous!!

  • @mathew_e6675
    @mathew_e6675 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could hear it tear on his live stream too.

  • @F1ipsydez
    @F1ipsydez ปีที่แล้ว

    How much PT would a person have to do after surgery for an injury like this?

  • @kendigjl
    @kendigjl หลายเดือนก่อน

    The nervouns, pathways and the muscles they instruct didn't age at the same rate as his tendons during his aging process. Kind of like feeding nitrous to a high mileage engine, he basically threw a rod.

  • @elchido3517
    @elchido3517 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never over do it on heavy lifting, i can bearly do 250pds max on bench, still doing 225pds, i seen alot of injuries but not taking any chances

  • @ivanmatusic5540
    @ivanmatusic5540 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its due barbell and anatomy position where max weight stresses pec on extended position. Snap always happens 3cm above torso. Athlean X explaines it. Don't ego lift.

  • @MrTraveller.
    @MrTraveller. ปีที่แล้ว

    So sorry to hear that. I watched him squat 420kg with ease yesterday. Speedy recovery ❤️‍🩹 big guy

  • @dennisrobinson8008
    @dennisrobinson8008 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sorry for Thor... What he should take is spend the time building up the pec mass, mobility, tissue strength before going after these super big numbers. It was obvious that his nervous system could drive the lift, but his muscles failed. He came back into it super fast it takes time. I know how it feels and he won't want to be hurt like this again. This type of injury made many of us who don't power lift switch to dumbbells.

    • @wombat5252
      @wombat5252 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Scary to think that you can still tear it even doing light weight. I never tore a muscle, but I remember when my father did. He tore his tricep doing close grip bench. Turned all mostly black. He didn't get surgery though, but was able to still lift after but with lesser weight and a little bit of pain years after. It definitely wasn't a full tear off the bone in his case. I can't imagine the pain...what is it like?

    • @KeyserSoze23
      @KeyserSoze23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tendon strength tends to always lag significantly behind PED induced muscle growth, which is why you tend to see these snaps occur.

    • @dennisrobinson8008
      @dennisrobinson8008 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wombat5252 You certainly can! I had my sprain that took me away from flat bench on one of my warm up sets. It was when i was bringing the weight down and i heard a "pop pop pop"... Scared the chit out of me. I was fine in about 3 months but i stayed away from flat bench after. Flat bench puts my shoulders in a vulnerable position, with dumbbells it doesn't happen and i can drop the weights easily.
      What Thor can do when he's coming back is to take the time and nutrition and work to build up sufficient pec mass and strength of tissues. Ensure that he has excellent mobility in the pec/delt region. Ensure that his body is properly hydrated and warm before he starts lifting. That'll be the best he can do.

    • @brucejensen3081
      @brucejensen3081 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@wombat5252 yeah, just doing higher rep will make the muscle get stronger, but the tendon won't get much stronger. You need the occasional heavy lift

    • @brucejensen3081
      @brucejensen3081 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plenty still do this injury with db. Same principles apply. Db are more natural with the shoulder movement though

  • @HeCoversMe
    @HeCoversMe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had the pleasure years ago to train with the #3 ranked power lifter in the nation (back in the Bill Kazmier days) my friend tore his pectoral training for the nationals and never competed again. Yes he was juicing but going from a top ranked lifter to never competing again was just devastating. Years later at a young age he had a heart attack. Thankfully he pulled out of that but years of steroid use is just too dangerous…just look at deaths in body building. It’s a shame something that should be natural strength competition has to be ruined by drugs. When I grew up nothing was said then I found out later in life all my heroes were juicing…I lost a lot of respect for the sport. A natural lifter like myself had no chance when competitions were never tested back in the day. But I stayed clean regardless, sacrificing health for winning is just stupid.

    • @dzsuniordzsordzs4357
      @dzsuniordzsordzs4357 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was it a partial or complete rupture for him? In which part of the pectoral muscle did it occur?

    • @HeCoversMe
      @HeCoversMe ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dzsuniordzsordzs4357 pec major complete tear

  • @xuexxiong
    @xuexxiong ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, that hurt my chest also.

  • @jaredbobak1426
    @jaredbobak1426 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've heard a lot of trainers and coaches say the bench press is a tricep exercise more than anything and there usually isn't a lot of emphasis on strengthening the pecs in isolation for powerlifters, at least that I've noticed. But I see a lot of pec injuries so it's clear the bench press is a lot more chest than a lot of powerlifting training would dictate. I see people put more emphasis on shoulders for bench then pecs which is sort of understandable due to shoulder injury rate but a lot of that is a form and technique issue more than a strength issue imo. Im not saying that would have stopped this but when your trying to get stronger in a short period of time you tend to cut out things or lower the importance of things not normally thought to be as big of a deal. So to everyone getting into bench pressing, do not skip your cable flies and pec deck work. Make it a priority.

    • @user-jp7ni5xv1r
      @user-jp7ni5xv1r ปีที่แล้ว

      youre right. if the pecs tear, this shows the pec was the weak point - folks need to prioritise strengthening the pecs and surrounding muscles/tendons in this area.

    • @kevinathans4191
      @kevinathans4191 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want to bench heavy, bench.

    • @LiberatedMind1
      @LiberatedMind1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lots of reps with lower weights, dumbells presses and pec deck training can help prevent this issue.

  • @B3nkeii
    @B3nkeii ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys, I am on TRT and hurt my chest/shoulder by hitting myself (facepalm). It hurts and I can barely grab a glass, should I take some of the anavar I have? For 5 days? 10-20mg in the AM? I have HGH and insulin and whey(and dextrose) too

    • @B3nkeii
      @B3nkeii ปีที่แล้ว

      I wont take ibuprofen, its not the pain - its the function, I have to clean my house with one hand -.-

  • @davidgishjeezz4790
    @davidgishjeezz4790 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone else refreshing for the Davis update

  • @njb7209
    @njb7209 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like a 'Welker Farms' type injury. 🤔

  • @TSPage
    @TSPage ปีที่แล้ว

    Have fun with AD again :)

  • @emmalabonte9600
    @emmalabonte9600 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should do eddie halls wotld record deadlift

  • @davidhubach5528
    @davidhubach5528 ปีที่แล้ว

    i blew the same one 45 years ago , it wont affect his over head lifting

  • @vidhoard
    @vidhoard ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you describe how they fix this injury? Is it ever possible to get it back to the way it was?

    • @stoneeh
      @stoneeh ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A clean tendon tear off the bone would be relatively easy to repair and can lead to 100% recovery. Tendon to muscle or intramuscular can be very tricky and patients may get back to full functionality in normal everyday life, but not 100% of the former strength; under full load, there will also be increased probability of a re-tear.

    • @LiberatedMind1
      @LiberatedMind1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Slice you open to expose the area, then surgically reattach. If they are lucky strength may recover fully, other times not. Sometimes also the muscle flexed length changes after surgery, because they can't reattach the tendon to the same area.

  • @chewy98ta28
    @chewy98ta28 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like Thor who's left handed will have to start learning to wack off with his right hand. It's very difficult to do with your off hand.

  • @JamesBrown-ep2rf
    @JamesBrown-ep2rf ปีที่แล้ว

    This makes you want to take a deload week hahaha

  • @vitos7483
    @vitos7483 ปีที่แล้ว

    These studies were done on 4 legged animals, they use all four of their limbs to move around. Humans only use their legs to move around, makes sense why our leg tendons are stronger than our upper bodies.

  • @RichBandzMf
    @RichBandzMf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can’t ramp up weight too fast or this is what happens. He should’ve taken his time & gotten his body back used to the weight before trying to go even heavier

  • @edwardlujan1325
    @edwardlujan1325 ปีที่แล้ว

    He should of called up Brian shaw to get his training and conditioning back to par

  • @Mike_858
    @Mike_858 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With the use of steroids the healing process is vastly accelerated. I remember when Zydrunas Savickas tore both of his quad tendons completely off, he was squatting 400kg only a couple months after the surgery. IF Thor ''Only'' tore the tendon he will recover very quickly if he continues using PED's.

    • @coen071993
      @coen071993 ปีที่แล้ว

      The quick recovery is all well and good, but you can see why it is dumb. He likely got this injury because he gained strength too quickly. Even if he manages to recover quick and still has motivation to continue, he would have to take his sweet time to try and prevent this from happening again.

  • @brandoncalkins2512
    @brandoncalkins2512 ปีที่แล้ว

    damn did any of you see the pictures he posted of after the injury?

  • @Atmosfe4r
    @Atmosfe4r ปีที่แล้ว

    Inflation getting rediculous when even doctors need ads in their vids for extra money

  • @3cocopuffs566
    @3cocopuffs566 ปีที่แล้ว

    If he wasnt wearing that super tight powerlifter suit, that left side of the chest would of probably went up like 6-10 inches.

  • @biknjak
    @biknjak ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr. Sutterer, you mentioned steroid use associated with tendon injuries, in that the muscle tissue is strengthening faster than the connective tissue. I don't use anabolic steroids, but I do use creatine monohydrate (5g/day). I have occasionally had tendon injuries and soreness while using it, and have wondered about the same situation you mentioned with steroids and tendon injuries - could the muscle tissues be getting stronger faster (with creatine) than the connective tissues and causing tears?

    • @Hxperienc3
      @Hxperienc3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m not the doctor but no. Creatine has nothing to do with muscle growth alone, creatine helps the muscle be more hydrated. I’d be more worried about form while working out

    • @rukota4409
      @rukota4409 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No, the extra strength and endurance you get from creatine will be largely inconsequential in a situation like that. You might get 5-10lbs at most with creatine in pure strength, but you'll mostly see an effect on endurance at lower loads, being able to pump out an extra rep or two, which results in better gains over time. It definitely works but it's not comparable to steroids at all, which gave Thor give or take 100 pounds on his bench in these last few months alone. If anything creatine might even help injury PREVENTION because it draws in intercellular water which could result in better muscular hydration.

    • @biknjak
      @biknjak ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Hxperienc3 Thank you!

    • @biknjak
      @biknjak ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rukota4409 OK- thanks!

  • @mark4lev
    @mark4lev ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let’s be honest it’s a serious injury. It’s far easier to repair a biceps long head tendon (for example). I think his strongman return is off permanently.

  • @badunderwear6662
    @badunderwear6662 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Damn mountain got wrecked.

  • @10ktube
    @10ktube ปีที่แล้ว

    Curious too, I'm going to assume juice is in play, he's got coaches, and experience with this, doesn't someone tell you to rest and let the body catch up? Juice can't keep you invincible forever.

    • @coen071993
      @coen071993 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably but saying no to a PR when you feel great and know you can lift the weight is just difficult. Lifting lower weight than you can when a meet like this is supposed to be a test of your strength is frustrating.

    • @CoolGobyFish
      @CoolGobyFish ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think he listens. Look at him. He is 30, but looks like he is 55. Plus half of his face is paralized. He shouldn't be doing any of this.

  • @thefreshprinceofnohair9703
    @thefreshprinceofnohair9703 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ruptured my bicep tendon doing a chin up , it flopped around like a alien trying to escape my body while recoiling.

  • @overshare7
    @overshare7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew it, the ice cream man that sells down there at the beach looked suspicion now I know why. I think he is in cahoots with the lifeguard!!! /touchsnose

  • @Lance37a
    @Lance37a ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good lord that looks painful.

    • @kevinpatrickcarey3741
      @kevinpatrickcarey3741 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he took it well he wasnt screaming in pain

    • @CoolGobyFish
      @CoolGobyFish ปีที่แล้ว

      surprisingly, it probably didn't hurnt. I tore my biceps off. Didn't feel much pain. But it was scary as hell. Never again)

  • @thechumpsbeendumped.7797
    @thechumpsbeendumped.7797 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm not 100% sure if this applies to Hafthor but from what I know, the bench press is not done by many strong men because it's restrictive/detrimental to other more relevant muscle development. If this is true of him it doesn't surprise me that a muscle that has not been utalised and focused on for many years to the same extent as others would be the weakest link, add to that his rapid return from a long break from strongman events and it was a likelihood if not an inevitability that something would fail.

  • @iirovaltonen4258
    @iirovaltonen4258 ปีที่แล้ว

    This actually a really important point that I had never heard before. If the tendons are not developing as fast as the muscles then a lifter is more likely to get injured. It would be nice if fitness youtubers would study and talk about these sorts of things more to make the whole "fitness space" a better and more understood one.

  • @flameout12345
    @flameout12345 ปีที่แล้ว

    he still lift it up. He is Thor

  • @kooroshrostami27
    @kooroshrostami27 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would stem cell therapy help speeding up recovery?

  • @joyvee7432
    @joyvee7432 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you do ANATOLY’s muscle strength?

  • @FatDadLovesJesus
    @FatDadLovesJesus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    His muscles were responding well, tendons were lagging behind, too much too fast.

  • @DARKDAY91101
    @DARKDAY91101 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow this doctor has an excellent command of the English language !!

  • @MrZimmaframe
    @MrZimmaframe ปีที่แล้ว

    I think going from 180kg to 250kg bench in a matter of months raw is too fast to progress.
    And considering he hasn't specifically trained bench as this isn't something specific in Strongman that you train, but it is in powerlifting, I would say it is more than likely this would be the movement he would get an injury in, as he hasn't has years of strengthening them tendons like in other movements in strongstrong man, so I was right unfortunately.

  • @johncoleman5388
    @johncoleman5388 ปีที่แล้ว

    According to my chiropractor, a maximum flat bench press is a poor anatomical movement, and especially bad to certain individuals from a genetical standpoint. It provides excessive stress on tendons, ligaments, and the muscles themselves, especially to those anatomically succeptible to these type of injuries given the movement and their anatomical structuring. I think my chiropractor is probably correct. These strongmen seem to pull, push, run, throw, and perform various movements, but the bench press is a hinderance to most of them. Look at Brian Shaw, his max bench is 551 pounds, yet he can squat 903 pounds. It is more about anatomical structuring and less about performance enhancing drugs.

  • @jknight392
    @jknight392 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    not just growing the muscle faster than the tendon but unqualified growth. lets say a lift should grow 5lbs for the muscle and 5lb increase of weight the tendon can handle, but then the steroids causes the muscle to handle 10 lbs more, over time its like a drift, the muscle is getting growth they didnt train for and the tendon doesnt get that. not time based but, rather the tendon simply not being able to keep from not being caused to grow by steroids

  • @BlackElon1
    @BlackElon1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tendons training is Key