Marvel rivals has the potential to be the most popular. But nothing will ever beat the polish that overwatch has. and nothing will ever beat overwatch map designs. I don’t see valve managing to make a great game either, but they know how to make popular games as proven by CS.
I doubt there is a "best" game out of them, they are quite different, and I see myself playing them all. Rivals is more of a casual ability-first shooter. Concord seems to be a more serious gun-first shooter Deadlock is barely a shooter, I would call it a 3rd person MOBA, but it has its place for sure.
Not for me. My gameplay vastly improved when I finally was able to make the enemy lime green and my team dark purple. Too many things lighting up on the screen, it was distracting. Now I can focus on the enemies because I can clearly see them and those that don't stand out, I know to be my teammates.
Concord died very fast it was like hyperscapes but died b4 release Deadlock don’t kill ow coz it’s like dota and smite Marvel rivals atp is a great competitor to ow
This channel is so full of dishonesty lol. Saying something akin to "you'd never catch ME being excited to play a game like Rivals, but players will maybe try it out and then come back to Overwatch when they realize the grass isn't greener on the other side when it comes to the chaos and freedom of expression to have really imbalanced characters..." The only thing that was a real issue was Hela... In an Alpha, that he is comparing to OW1 release. I'm going to have a blast playing Magik, Storm, Luna, etc. in Rivals. Heck, even tanks because they are ACTUALLY FUN and the role isn't insufferable. They're even killable too. The dude even said take the destructable environment further and let the entire turrain get wrecked by players so there is no competitive element to the game whatsoever, as if by contrast OW was taking itself seriously or had decent hero balance. Sojourn is still untouched. Heroes like hanzo and mei are still gutted with no reworks after a pushed health buff to tons of heroes. What is super competitive about get out of jail free abilities like lamp, suzu, etc?
Battleborn didn't play like Overwatch, very surprised people ever considered them as competition. Yeah they have unique characters with ability based game play, but the game had a fundamentally different way of play in that it was more like a first person MOBA game (if I remember correctly). Paladins was just OW but way worse, but it was F2P, but then OW went F2P so they are more similar now in that respect.
@@thatcactus5451 Paladins despite their current state, at the very least allows people to play how they want. That and I can at least pull the two tank comp that overwatch refuses to do.
@@thatcactus5451 True, many people say that Overwatch is like an FPS moba game but really, Battleborne, Gigantic, and Paladins are more FPS moba than Overwatch is. yes OW can feel like an FPS moba sometimes, but it depends on the meta, really it's not like that in OW all the time. Yes Paladins in Overwatch is a lot similar now with F2P scheme and the DPS passive, but Paladins still feels more like FPS moba. Another reason why OW is more popular than Paladins, Gigantic, and Battleborn is that OW is leaning towards, at least most of the time, the FPS side and FPS games are just way more popular right now. Most would rather play an FPS shooter that a 3rd person shooter and most would rather play a shooter game focused mostly on shooter sensibilities and mechanics rather than moba's.
finally someone understands that Concord is essentially Destiny. I'm confused by how many youtubers are immediately jumping to Overwatch comparisons when the similarities don't go beyond surface level 'hero shooter'
Imo looks like destiny, borderlands, and gotg mixed together It ain’t anything like Overwatch Ur real problem nowadays is usually whenever a new hero shooter comes ppl will go straight and say it’s OVERWATCH KILLER I’m not defending ow but it is annoying like the fact marvel rivals is a third person shooter game and plays more like smite and paladins is good but annoying that many ppl say ITS OVERWATCH ITS OVERWATCH OVERWATCH KILLER!!!! Yea it won’t kill overwatch coz atm ow killed itself they shot themselves in the foot like a dozen of times
Destiny doesn't have hero kits like Overwatch or Concord. Destiny only has 3 classes with lots of different things to pick between in each class. Overwatch and Concord has each hero locked into their own kit. That's what hero shooter means Overwatch is a team based hero shooter. That's all it is. You can compare it closely to every other hero shooter
For marvel rivals I got my old tank buddy who dropped OW back to play as Venom for my Spider-Man. That alone is enough for Marvel Rivals to exist for me.
As someone who's been a WoW player for 18 years let me tell you this: there were so many games that claimed to be the "WoW Killer" but nothing came even close. If anything kills Overwatch, it's Overwatch itself.
Nostalgia and the continued hope Overwatch will return to its roots are the only things that are keeping it alive, in my opinion. I've certainly moved on, as I have accepted the Overwatch world as it appears to be.
9:30 I disagree about just being a visual. When I play the close beta we needed a heavy character to destroy some walls to open up flanking routes it was a necessary.
@@ZKDanielhonestly it might not even be just PVP, with the amount of stories Marvel has, it’s entirely possible that there could be some PVE events with skins from those eras! Avengers Vs X-Men, Krokoa, MCU, Marvel Zombies 1 and resurrection, there are serious a lot of Things marvel could do if netease actually works!
Deadlock looks more like its leaninging into the battleborn crowd. Marvel rivals seems more like overwatch style of game. Concord seems more like ow2 style of play. Idk im down to try all of them tbh hero shooters/mobas are just fun.
@@comedial6829 might just be me but i only play overwatch because every other game ive played regardless of genre just gets so boring so fast. Though it mighr just be my ADHD 😅
@@gaiblexx1919 there it is right there, you’re the problem, and it’s also an example of addiction, trust me if you actually took time out of your day to give other games a shot instead of giving them a one and done, you’d see that there are other FPS games out there just as or if not the same enjoyable as Overwatch lol
I have to say even as a masters rank Overwatch player I think I preffered when it was more casual. I liked the 4 roles, junkrat self damage as a junk player, everyone being really defined and for fun. I love competitive too but prefer intresic fun above all else
Most people who watch this video won’t remember that everyone joining OW is bronze 5. The learning curve is suprisingly steep. Some of these news games will pick up players because everyone is new and they don’t have the baggage of OW1. I agree competition is good. So I don’t think it matters which ones win or lose.
None of these will really impact the majority of the OW playerbase, because the majority of OW players are casual enjoyers of the atmosphere of OW. Blizzard did such a spectacular job creating the OW world and characters, I do not believe any competitor can match it.
@@forthe3136no… the mainstream heroes (basically the avengers) can compete. Marvel has soooo much characters, which inevitably leads to some nobodies that will get added in and never catch popularity
@@forthe3136I'm betting that the mainstream nature of Rivals is actually a knock against them for many. I know it's irrational, but I'm somewhat biased against Marvel products. Maybe it's all the horrible movies or the ubiquity of Marvel content in general. It's almost as if, by default, nothing Marvel can really be novel.
“you wanna cosplay as your favorite character and ruin our matches”. thats the absolute best way ive heard it described and it describes so many people lmao. spot on
Have to strongly disagree about brig being ignored in the lower ranks back then. I remember being low rank at the time and everyone flocking to her to dominate
As much as I would love a game that can compete with OW, I think it’ll be quite a difficult task to make a game that can match the fluid, high octane gameplay and satisfying moments that overwatch has. The game is great. It’s the players that piss me off.
variety is the spice of life, having these options does mean some will leave OW2 for something new, and may even stay. furthermore it also provides more options of inspirations for all of them. seeing new ideas on abilities etc. its better for the overall health.
Freedo you should make videos like this instead of trying to gaslight 6v6ers into thinking they like 5v5 more like we didn’t play both of them lol ??? Crazy ? Might sub again, feels way less shilly when you just cover overwatch or make vids like this.
Gigantic would been a competitor if they hadn't messed up the servers. While paying $20 and you get everything for free is good in my opinion free to play would benefit it. Plus the lack of updates or events is killing the drive for alot of people.
My biggest question for you Freedo is if Blizzard pulled the plug on overwatch entirely, what game are you going to pivot to playing and cover instead?
When I explain what OW is to people I say “Imagine if Super Smash Bros was First Person” If Nintendo actually jumped in and did this I feel like they would take over
Splatoon is so close dude. They just need to reach out and grab it with a other IP. I wouldn't mind if Splatoon were that IP but the kiddy aesthetic is gonna lose traction.
Trust me with how bad overwatches march maker is with blizzard now admitting they are carrying bad players up the ladder and the dps passive and hitbox buff this game is already dead me and 3 of my friends have quit just this week sick of getting team mates who are potato just because the match maker wants us to carry them.
About the deadlock leaks. The game is still in alpha, not beta if I'm not mistaken. Basically not ready for public test yet but somehow already got leaked.
Open queue is the only thing that worries me about Rivals. Game looks fun but will quickly lose steam for me if i keep losing games bc teammates cant build a comprehensive comp.
>there is destructible environment, but for me it's just a huge gimmick this would work wonders in overwatch because attackers can force the defense out of some power positions. imagine if 2cp had destructible high ground to benefit attackers (or defenders in horizon lunar colony).
I've never had too many people give me abuse on voice or bad chat but in the last few months the skill level of team comp has DRAMATICALLY dropped. I never thought it but I've been playing less and less. It was a good run boys.
This is one of the most intelligent and awesome videos I’ve seen on this topic awesome job Freedo I think you have a really really great and objective insight on the games industry rn
@Osrsw31 I’m not a bot, and was just spelling it as I’ve seen it spelled on other places like Group Up Podcast. If you disagree/hate the guy so much why are you watching his videos and nitpicking random comments lol? No need to be a rude cunt just because you disagree with my opinion.
One thing to always keep in mind with any valve game, is that if the game is good, they have the biggest free piece of marketing for any AAA company, steam itself. They can literally blow this game up in ever single one of their users faces for free.
Lawbreakers never should have died man. It was just marketed poorly and pushed to market at what ended up being Overwatch's peak, just died by attrition. Splitgate was able to be successful because it had a less saturated market, LB should've done the same. There are efforts to unofficially revive it thankfully, so I hope it comes back in some regard.
Rivals does have a lot of visual clutter. I really hope they fix the choppy animations and large health bars. If Rivals ends up feeling as good as ow2 does on console controllers with good netcode I might drop Ow completely.
I've watched the other hero showcases by that channel and yes, they are terrible. I'm also pretty sure they're playing on an older torrent version of Deadlock, which has since been updated for people actually in the playtest.
I think putting Marvel Rivals in the same spot as OG Overwatch is taking away from its identity; rivals seems to be carving out its own piece of the pie and I say "have at it". Hero shooters be damned, I just want to play as a superhero (Spider-Man, Iron Man, the Hulk), these characters I've been admiring since I was a kid.
I'm looking forward to Concord and Marvel Rivals. In terms of which could be the best - probably Concord for game play since it seems a bit more put together than the rest. In terms of hype, Marvel Rivals takes the cake cuz its a different look of the characters and characters we haven't seen as much in video games (i.e., storm, magick, etc.) and seems interesting but we'll see how the balance goes. Rivals could be pretty good in the casual sense
Honestly none of those will "kill" Overwatch (at least not directly), almost like saying a new battle royale will "kill" Overwatch just because it has abilities and is a shooting game. They're really different from OW2 in gameplay, "rules", mechanics, feel, artwork, size/scale, etc. Same way as Apex Legends and Valorant got the attention of some players, they're not "killers", games that resemble each other and have good traits for people who already enjoy OW2. Yes, a portion of the playerbase will like them and migrate, but not because they're "the same game, but better", but rather for the same reason TFT takes a portion of LOL's playerbase, just being an interesting game with similar qualities and a refreshing look at some concepts.
Finally, someone talking about Deadlick that has at least a basic understanding of what the game is trying to do. Its not like valorant, its not like TF2, It's a MOBA hero shooter, with emphasis on the MOBA part.
Nice to see someone that hasn’t immediately hate on concord just for existing lmao. I don’t have high hopes for it, but I feel bad for the developers with how much people are hating on the game even tho we don’t really know what it will play like yet
The only one thats worrisome is Marvel Rivals, its got Marvels massive catalogue and solid Overwatch gameplay, Concord probably won't last a year, and Deadlock will live or die by Values interest in it.............
I honestly hope Marvel Rivals does well and can really fill that void that was left from when Overwatch 2 ruined Overwatch. I'll take the insanity to 2016 Overwatch over this hell that is Overwatch 2.
Concord: Hard flop Deadlock: Very successful Marvel Rivals: Solid community with potential to beat overwatch in popularity. But it's hard to say cause so much depends on how they handle the game and player feedback.
I think first person gameplay is pretty high on the list of requirements for the fan base. Marvel Rivals reminds me of smite more than it does overwatch personally. Concord has certainly peaked my interest the most of the 3.
No thank you. It's pure nostalgia. For every good game of 2cp, and don't get me wrong, the good games were some of the best in all of overwatch, you had 20 bad games.
Which game do you think will be the best hero shooter of them all?
Definitely, Marvel Rivals, from what I've seen and heard the beta on PC, was awesome. I can't wait for console beta
Marvel rivals has the potential to be the most popular. But nothing will ever beat the polish that overwatch has. and nothing will ever beat overwatch map designs. I don’t see valve managing to make a great game either, but they know how to make popular games as proven by CS.
Star Wars: Battle Front 2, the 00's version on the original X-Box. TF2 takes silver.
OW3 or whatever Papa Jeff has been working on...
I doubt there is a "best" game out of them, they are quite different, and I see myself playing them all.
Rivals is more of a casual ability-first shooter.
Concord seems to be a more serious gun-first shooter
Deadlock is barely a shooter, I would call it a 3rd person MOBA, but it has its place for sure.
List of games that can kill Overwatch 2
-Overwatch 2
List of companies that can kill overwatch 2
-BLIZZARD
-ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
ROFL exactly my first thought on the title
no jeff ow is dead
@@moyo007 jeff killed ow know your ow lore
yep, literally came here to say this
Looking at these other games, I'm reminded how much I appreciate having the other team highlighted in red.
Not for me. My gameplay vastly improved when I finally was able to make the enemy lime green and my team dark purple. Too many things lighting up on the screen, it was distracting. Now I can focus on the enemies because I can clearly see them and those that don't stand out, I know to be my teammates.
I had around 70 hours in the marvel rivals beta. Spotting the enemy team was never an issue.
@@aabrrrr for you.
@@aabrrrrThat's a lot! How do you like it compared to OW2?
@@therealzahyra Marvel Rivals has the other team highlighted in red and GIANT red healthbars
Imagine looking at the video u r watching :)
Marvel Rivals is the only game here thats truly an Overwatch competitor. None of the other games listed are like Overwatch.
Yes and no. Marvel's Rivals is the only one like OW but all the others can steal the OW player base.
Concord died very fast it was like hyperscapes but died b4 release
Deadlock don’t kill ow coz it’s like dota and smite
Marvel rivals atp is a great competitor to ow
Overwatch killed Overwatch, not these games. That said I'm 100% moving to Rivals when it releases, I miss 6v6
Honestly in marvel rivals was out 26th 5v5 or 7v7 or 8v8 etc. I don't think it'll make the game worse because there's no role queue
This channel is so full of dishonesty lol.
Saying something akin to "you'd never catch ME being excited to play a game like Rivals, but players will maybe try it out and then come back to Overwatch when they realize the grass isn't greener on the other side when it comes to the chaos and freedom of expression to have really imbalanced characters..."
The only thing that was a real issue was Hela... In an Alpha, that he is comparing to OW1 release. I'm going to have a blast playing Magik, Storm, Luna, etc. in Rivals. Heck, even tanks because they are ACTUALLY FUN and the role isn't insufferable. They're even killable too.
The dude even said take the destructable environment further and let the entire turrain get wrecked by players so there is no competitive element to the game whatsoever, as if by contrast OW was taking itself seriously or had decent hero balance. Sojourn is still untouched. Heroes like hanzo and mei are still gutted with no reworks after a pushed health buff to tons of heroes. What is super competitive about get out of jail free abilities like lamp, suzu, etc?
Why 2k doesn't resurrect "BattleBorn", I don't know. I'm surprised you didn't mention "Paladins", as an existing competition.
Battleborn didn't play like Overwatch, very surprised people ever considered them as competition. Yeah they have unique characters with ability based game play, but the game had a fundamentally different way of play in that it was more like a first person MOBA game (if I remember correctly). Paladins was just OW but way worse, but it was F2P, but then OW went F2P so they are more similar now in that respect.
@@thatcactus5451 Paladins despite their current state, at the very least allows people to play how they want. That and I can at least pull the two tank comp that overwatch refuses to do.
Overwatch probably did Battleborn the dirtiest
@@Strategistmaster in fairness, gear box screw themselves thinking they can take overwatch
@@thatcactus5451 True, many people say that Overwatch is like an FPS moba game but really, Battleborne, Gigantic, and Paladins are more FPS moba than Overwatch is. yes OW can feel like an FPS moba sometimes, but it depends on the meta, really it's not like that in OW all the time.
Yes Paladins in Overwatch is a lot similar now with F2P scheme and the DPS passive, but Paladins still feels more like FPS moba. Another reason why OW is more popular than Paladins, Gigantic, and Battleborn is that OW is leaning towards, at least most of the time, the FPS side and FPS games are just way more popular right now. Most would rather play an FPS shooter that a 3rd person shooter and most would rather play a shooter game focused mostly on shooter sensibilities and mechanics rather than moba's.
finally someone understands that Concord is essentially Destiny. I'm confused by how many youtubers are immediately jumping to Overwatch comparisons when the similarities don't go beyond surface level 'hero shooter'
Imo looks like destiny, borderlands, and gotg mixed together
It ain’t anything like Overwatch
Ur real problem nowadays is usually whenever a new hero shooter comes ppl will go straight and say it’s OVERWATCH KILLER
I’m not defending ow but it is annoying like the fact marvel rivals is a third person shooter game and plays more like smite and paladins is good but annoying that many ppl say ITS OVERWATCH ITS OVERWATCH
OVERWATCH KILLER!!!! Yea it won’t kill overwatch coz atm ow killed itself they shot themselves in the foot like a dozen of times
Destiny doesn't have hero kits like Overwatch or Concord. Destiny only has 3 classes with lots of different things to pick between in each class. Overwatch and Concord has each hero locked into their own kit. That's what hero shooter means
Overwatch is a team based hero shooter. That's all it is. You can compare it closely to every other hero shooter
For marvel rivals I got my old tank buddy who dropped OW back to play as Venom for my Spider-Man. That alone is enough for Marvel Rivals to exist for me.
5:50 cries as a TF2 fan
Titan Fall mobs - players: ah boring mobs
Smite mobs - players: ah boring mobs
Gigantic mobs - players: ah boring mobs
Paragon mobs - players: ah boring mobs
Deadlock mobs - players: WOW SO UNIQUE AND FRESH, MOBS MY LOVE
I predict that Marvel Rivals, by comparison will show everyone how well made and designed Overwatch actually is
Exactly!
Facts we might bitch and complain our Devs are elite
strongly agreed
I dont think that much copium is healthy.
It's very fluid and clear.
That's all overwatch has going for it, game is extremely stale.
The devs already killed Overwatch 2
5v5 killed Overwatch 2
As someone who's been a WoW player for 18 years let me tell you this: there were so many games that claimed to be the "WoW Killer" but nothing came even close. If anything kills Overwatch, it's Overwatch itself.
Nostalgia and the continued hope Overwatch will return to its roots are the only things that are keeping it alive, in my opinion. I've certainly moved on, as I have accepted the Overwatch world as it appears to be.
9:30 I disagree about just being a visual. When I play the close beta we needed a heavy character to destroy some walls to open up flanking routes it was a necessary.
I Think DeadLock is a competitor to Smite 2 more than OW
Or Predecessor for sure. Good comparison.
Listen, I still love ow and will love it even during its fall point, but Marvel rivals! Is awesome!!!
I can agree, I’ll def be playing marvel rivals a lot more than OW2
@ikan5149 I always wanted a pvp marvel ow type of game and rivals is THAT GAME! plus, if they add carnage and other Marvel characters
@@ZKDanielhonestly it might not even be just PVP, with the amount of stories Marvel has, it’s entirely possible that there could be some PVE events with skins from those eras!
Avengers Vs X-Men, Krokoa, MCU, Marvel Zombies 1 and resurrection, there are serious a lot of Things marvel could do if netease actually works!
@@Batcenawould LOVE this! Even if it’s just a seasonal PvE event
Deadlock looks more like its leaninging into the battleborn crowd.
Marvel rivals seems more like overwatch style of game.
Concord seems more like ow2 style of play.
Idk im down to try all of them tbh hero shooters/mobas are just fun.
Overwatch 2 has no one with VISION leading it. It died with Jeff kaplans departure.
Deadlock won't kill Overwatch. Deadlock is a MOBA with shooter elements, not a shooter with MOBA elements.
lawbreakers was fun i hope they bring it back
I hope it does, without competition in its specific genre, Overwatch will never grow.
The concord footage looks like the characters are moving underwater. What is up with the slowness?
Nothing could compare with OW. I don’t take any defense.
That’s because all you do is play Overwatch, so ofc you’re gonna have this view lmao
Bro that attitude ruins the game
@@comedial6829 might just be me but i only play overwatch because every other game ive played regardless of genre just gets so boring so fast. Though it mighr just be my ADHD 😅
@@gaiblexx1919 there it is right there, you’re the problem, and it’s also an example of addiction, trust me if you actually took time out of your day to give other games a shot instead of giving them a one and done, you’d see that there are other FPS games out there just as or if not the same enjoyable as Overwatch lol
There is no game out there that can give you the experience and fun of Reinhart or do fist
Valves deadlock is just Paragon….why are people forgetting that just came out?
Paragon is gone, but Predecessor is the remake with 3 original hero’s added that’s currently in open beta. Highly recommended checking it out!
Dude, just giving an advice. Please use CHAPTERS. We need that for this kind of good video. Thanks! 🎉
I have to say even as a masters rank Overwatch player I think I preffered when it was more casual. I liked the 4 roles, junkrat self damage as a junk player, everyone being really defined and for fun. I love competitive too but prefer intresic fun above all else
Most people who watch this video won’t remember that everyone joining OW is bronze 5. The learning curve is suprisingly steep. Some of these news games will pick up players because everyone is new and they don’t have the baggage of OW1. I agree competition is good. So I don’t think it matters which ones win or lose.
I feel like all these games individually are going to make me want to play overwatch.
6v6 will only be able to save overwatch but it might already be too late
None of these will really impact the majority of the OW playerbase, because the majority of OW players are casual enjoyers of the atmosphere of OW. Blizzard did such a spectacular job creating the OW world and characters, I do not believe any competitor can match it.
Well marvel rivals already has the world and characters part solved
@@forthe3136right? Marvel has had characters for decades and they used to be amazing story tellers.
OW still doesn't have a story!!!!
@@forthe3136no… the mainstream heroes (basically the avengers) can compete. Marvel has soooo much characters, which inevitably leads to some nobodies that will get added in and never catch popularity
@@forthe3136I'm betting that the mainstream nature of Rivals is actually a knock against them for many. I know it's irrational, but I'm somewhat biased against Marvel products. Maybe it's all the horrible movies or the ubiquity of Marvel content in general. It's almost as if, by default, nothing Marvel can really be novel.
@@alberttaylor6323 ok... pretty much every new overwatch character is a nobody but they rise to popularity, why cant the marvel characters
“you wanna cosplay as your favorite character and ruin our matches”. thats the absolute best way ive heard it described and it describes so many people lmao. spot on
Have to strongly disagree about brig being ignored in the lower ranks back then. I remember being low rank at the time and everyone flocking to her to dominate
You can’t kill something which is already dead
could kill? what kill? what overwhat?
Good they might actually give us 6v6 back if it dies
As much as I would love a game that can compete with OW, I think it’ll be quite a difficult task to make a game that can match the fluid, high octane gameplay and satisfying moments that overwatch has. The game is great. It’s the players that piss me off.
variety is the spice of life, having these options does mean some will leave OW2 for something new, and may even stay. furthermore it also provides more options of inspirations for all of them. seeing new ideas on abilities etc. its better for the overall health.
Freedo you should make videos like this instead of trying to gaslight 6v6ers into thinking they like 5v5 more like we didn’t play both of them lol ??? Crazy ? Might sub again, feels way less shilly when you just cover overwatch or make vids like this.
You forgot spacemarine 2 6v6
Gigantic would been a competitor if they hadn't messed up the servers. While paying $20 and you get everything for free is good in my opinion free to play would benefit it. Plus the lack of updates or events is killing the drive for alot of people.
I wasn’t excited for any of these but you had my attention at IceFrog 👀👀
Same. Peeping the search engine now.
I was born into battle and the battle was born 🤓
I had a dream that Your Destiny came back but also a new channel Your Halo
Marathon by bungie is the only one I'm worried about
Im personally crazy hype for Marvel Rivals, Its been a while since ive been like super hyped for a game.
Freedo knows how to farm those engagements
My biggest question for you Freedo is if Blizzard pulled the plug on overwatch entirely, what game are you going to pivot to playing and cover instead?
When I explain what OW is to people I say “Imagine if Super Smash Bros was First Person”
If Nintendo actually jumped in and did this I feel like they would take over
Splatoon is so close dude. They just need to reach out and grab it with a other IP. I wouldn't mind if Splatoon were that IP but the kiddy aesthetic is gonna lose traction.
I can't eat my enemy and poop them out as an egg. Literally unplayable.
This might be the worse most not even close comparison ever made
I would love to see OW as a platform fighting game.
if OW leaned heavy into environmental hazards then yes... there it is nintendo. make a hero based ring out shooter pronto
I'm so excited for rivals
Trust me with how bad overwatches march maker is with blizzard now admitting they are carrying bad players up the ladder and the dps passive and hitbox buff this game is already dead me and 3 of my friends have quit just this week sick of getting team mates who are potato just because the match maker wants us to carry them.
concord looks like its competing with lawbreakers, battlebordn and Paragon to see who can get shut down the fastest
About the deadlock leaks. The game is still in alpha, not beta if I'm not mistaken. Basically not ready for public test yet but somehow already got leaked.
Open queue is the only thing that worries me about Rivals. Game looks fun but will quickly lose steam for me if i keep losing games bc teammates cant build a comprehensive comp.
>there is destructible environment, but for me it's just a huge gimmick
this would work wonders in overwatch because attackers can force the defense out of some power positions.
imagine if 2cp had destructible high ground to benefit attackers (or defenders in horizon lunar colony).
I've never had too many people give me abuse on voice or bad chat but in the last few months the skill level of team comp has DRAMATICALLY dropped. I never thought it but I've been playing less and less. It was a good run boys.
Deadlock looks more like a game called Natural Selection 2, Unreal Tournament 2004's onslaught mode, or the design of Command and Conquer: Renegade
This is like saying "these artists could kill Elvis"
This is one of the most intelligent and awesome videos I’ve seen on this topic awesome job Freedo I think you have a really really great and objective insight on the games industry rn
@Osrsw31 I’m not a bot, and was just spelling it as I’ve seen it spelled on other places like Group Up Podcast.
If you disagree/hate the guy so much why are you watching his videos and nitpicking random comments lol? No need to be a rude cunt just because you disagree with my opinion.
Marvel Rivals is pure HEAT 🔥
But are the all free to play AND on both consoles?
Marvel rivals definitely is.
Man Lawbreakers had SOOOO much potential! Sad that it went away so quickly.
Only game that could kill Overwatch was itself.
One thing to always keep in mind with any valve game, is that if the game is good, they have the biggest free piece of marketing for any AAA company, steam itself. They can literally blow this game up in ever single one of their users faces for free.
Hopefully competition makes all hero shooters better
Third-person view is a non-starter, and 2 of the 3 look like games from 1997 back when they didn't invent colors yet.
"horrible in balancing" 🤣🤣🤣
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Lawbreakers never should have died man. It was just marketed poorly and pushed to market at what ended up being Overwatch's peak, just died by attrition. Splitgate was able to be successful because it had a less saturated market, LB should've done the same. There are efforts to unofficially revive it thankfully, so I hope it comes back in some regard.
Don’t worry, Space Ranger will save us!
Rivals does have a lot of visual clutter. I really hope they fix the choppy animations and large health bars. If Rivals ends up feeling as good as ow2 does on console controllers with good netcode I might drop Ow completely.
You forgot the furry overwatch clone and the cat overwatch clone too
Nah, OW2 is killing itself. If anything, these games can help OW improve. We need this competition in the industry.
Deadlock demo is being played by someone who forgot to turn their monitor on.
I've watched the other hero showcases by that channel and yes, they are terrible. I'm also pretty sure they're playing on an older torrent version of Deadlock, which has since been updated for people actually in the playtest.
I think putting Marvel Rivals in the same spot as OG Overwatch is taking away from its identity; rivals seems to be carving out its own piece of the pie and I say "have at it".
Hero shooters be damned, I just want to play as a superhero (Spider-Man, Iron Man, the Hulk), these characters I've been admiring since I was a kid.
I think my pinky toe can kill Overwatch 2
I mean i kind of hope they DO. Blizzard needs to understand their offerings in the past decade have been extremely par.
You can't kill a game that's already dead
I'm looking forward to Concord and Marvel Rivals. In terms of which could be the best - probably Concord for game play since it seems a bit more put together than the rest. In terms of hype, Marvel Rivals takes the cake cuz its a different look of the characters and characters we haven't seen as much in video games (i.e., storm, magick, etc.) and seems interesting but we'll see how the balance goes. Rivals could be pretty good in the casual sense
I don''t know Ice Frog is pretty brilliant. I have some hopes he makes another golden goose. It may not kill Overwatch 2 but hopefully has some legs.
Most interested in Deadlock since I used to love Monday Night Combat.
Can’t even type in chat GGs whit out getting banned!
hey man i hope you’re not done streaming. you’re the only streamer i can stand watching so i hope you make it a regular thing
Honestly none of those will "kill" Overwatch (at least not directly), almost like saying a new battle royale will "kill" Overwatch just because it has abilities and is a shooting game. They're really different from OW2 in gameplay, "rules", mechanics, feel, artwork, size/scale, etc. Same way as Apex Legends and Valorant got the attention of some players, they're not "killers", games that resemble each other and have good traits for people who already enjoy OW2.
Yes, a portion of the playerbase will like them and migrate, but not because they're "the same game, but better", but rather for the same reason TFT takes a portion of LOL's playerbase, just being an interesting game with similar qualities and a refreshing look at some concepts.
Finally, someone talking about Deadlick that has at least a basic understanding of what the game is trying to do. Its not like valorant, its not like TF2, It's a MOBA hero shooter, with emphasis on the MOBA part.
Only Overwatch 2 can kill OVerwatch 2 and its succeeding.
Nice to see someone that hasn’t immediately hate on concord just for existing lmao. I don’t have high hopes for it, but I feel bad for the developers with how much people are hating on the game even tho we don’t really know what it will play like yet
The only one thats worrisome is Marvel Rivals, its got Marvels massive catalogue and solid Overwatch gameplay, Concord probably won't last a year, and Deadlock will live or die by Values interest in it.............
What’s their to be worried about? If rivals is a great game that’s just more options for you
@@forthe3136 I said worried because the term "killed" personally I'm hype for Marvel Rivals because I'm a massive Marvel fan.
I honestly hope Marvel Rivals does well and can really fill that void that was left from when Overwatch 2 ruined Overwatch. I'll take the insanity to 2016 Overwatch over this hell that is Overwatch 2.
Bro Blizzard single handedly killed the whole franchise like 2 years ago
Concord is never killing any game, other than itself.
This game still has no chance of surpassing Overwatch 2
Honestly I'm just glad we have more hero shooters. I've never been able to play games that dont enforce teamplay.
Marvel Rivals looks the best tho
Can’t kill what’s already dead…
No matter what happens with any of these games OW is just gonna double down on what they've been doing.
Concord: Hard flop
Deadlock: Very successful
Marvel Rivals: Solid community with potential to beat overwatch in popularity. But it's hard to say cause so much depends on how they handle the game and player feedback.
Let Doom destroy a skyscraper like the one on Siege of Shanghai in BF4.
I think first person gameplay is pretty high on the list of requirements for the fan base. Marvel Rivals reminds me of smite more than it does overwatch personally. Concord has certainly peaked my interest the most of the 3.
Overwatch is dead I mean look at Keller and tell me you can take that man’s word seriously…I couldn’t even look at the guy without laughing
Im so desperate to try a new game, its gotten to the point where I play overwatch maybe once a month, after 3 games, I just cant play anymore.
Music to my ears.
I just want 2 CP maps back to the Competitive. I wanna witness the nostalgic maps again... 😢
No thank you. It's pure nostalgia. For every good game of 2cp, and don't get me wrong, the good games were some of the best in all of overwatch, you had 20 bad games.