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  • @DXFromYT
    @DXFromYT  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1365

    The art for my intro, this video's thumbnail and title card was done by artist Azuma Yasuo. They have a Patreon as well, and you can find their links in the description!

    • @shadowoperator97
      @shadowoperator97 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      You introduced me to AY, for which I greatly appreciate. The art they've made me are some if my favorite.

    • @TempoLOOKING
      @TempoLOOKING 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      DX is back guys.😂

    • @ItatsuMagnatsa
      @ItatsuMagnatsa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Hey! Want to check out my Characters, Review them in their own Video, and then Compare them to the Concord Characters?

    • @MountKash1
      @MountKash1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lol why do people keep saying Concord was trying to be Overwatch ? It doesn't actual look or play like overwatch. And Overwatch isn't the one & only hero shooter. It isn't even the first hero shooter.
      I do agree with Concord having character design issues

    • @FizzleFX
      @FizzleFX 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Concords characters lack any visual storytelling and their (art) director needs to be fired. I never saw such useless and bad design. It's not simply generic but RNG generated random mush mash without thought.

  • @TwoHandedChargedBonk
    @TwoHandedChargedBonk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10408

    Concord's character design was so bad it had defeated the Rule 34. Probably the only time a hero shotter ever did that. The game stood no chance.

    • @Acacius1992
      @Acacius1992 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1704

      You know something is ugly if even rule34 dont touch it xD

    • @notbot5360
      @notbot5360 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +698

      Yeah gargoyle girl from deadlock have more rule 34 than concord, the funny thing is the gargoyle girl original design isn't even s3xy to begin with.

    • @dankmemes8254
      @dankmemes8254 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +395

      There is sadly around 36 posts now most of them however redesign the characters

    • @3takoyakis
      @3takoyakis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +290

      @Acacius1992 fr like, theres ton of fetishes exist out there and concord served none of them
      Its battleborn all over again

    • @Atomic-id1kq
      @Atomic-id1kq 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@3takoyakis it-z can be a fetish for some very weird people

  • @LuvzToLol21
    @LuvzToLol21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2529

    It stuns me that the designers managed to make the heavy machine gun character look so goofy and non-threatening. Emari looks like a giant toddler

    • @kaahzvi5820
      @kaahzvi5820 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +180

      Her silhouette looks like the Michelin tire man or Pilsbury Doughboy

    • @mrbluebell2735
      @mrbluebell2735 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      Remove armour and padding and realise Emari is about at flat as Itz. Someone obviously failed a biology and anatomy class.

    • @williamdrum9899
      @williamdrum9899 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Emari should have had a "Mama Bear" aesthetic

    • @shanenice5380
      @shanenice5380 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​😂.I rather used him.then that creepy person

  • @CidGuerreiro1234
    @CidGuerreiro1234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3931

    They didn't want sexy characters, but lacked the talent and vision to make something cool and appealing without it. I honestly have never seen an uglier/more boring character roster.

    • @doratheshade
      @doratheshade 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +316

      Its not like they needed to be half naked too. I mean, look at SF6. Cammy was pretty much dressed casually yet people did TONS of art of her before the character was even announced!

    • @sertiana2512
      @sertiana2512 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +191

      ​Yeah, you can create a modestly dressed character who still has appeal

    • @socriabbas454
      @socriabbas454 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +266

      Because they themselves doesnt know what "cool" is. Junkrat in OW is not sexy as Cassidy or Hanzo but HE'S COOL to look at.

    • @axios4702
      @axios4702 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

      ​​@@sertiana2512Sexy=/half naked. If anything the sexiest characters are the ones dressed tastefully, not the ones running around with their birthday suit.

    • @polker8380
      @polker8380 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

      ​@@socriabbas454 even Roadhog and E. Honda has way more fans than whatever Concord's is. Even better, Deadlock's Ivy, who is a really ugly gargoyle girl, somehow gets the most art/rule34 made compared to the rest of Deadlock's roster.

  • @xeromachinimas
    @xeromachinimas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3029

    TF2 devs didnt sexualize the characters and they're still very appealing and praised by people so it can be done

    • @hunde2430
      @hunde2430 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +231

      even though that the relationship with heavy and medic was like a professional brotherhood within an mercenary bubble, Rule 34 really took them both (or even FKING PYRO??) to all time highs. Concord really just sucks

    • @mallusaih
      @mallusaih 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +231

      its also a matter of different audiences, notice how the voice chats of TF2 and CS2 differ significantly from those of overwatch and valorant respectively; They clearly appeal to different kinds of people. But most importantly, they **do appeal** to someone, unlike concord

    • @lokasz9
      @lokasz9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

      dude do you have eyes? have you seen heavy?? goddamnn

    • @martinferjancic
      @martinferjancic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

      gonna beat one out to engineer just to prove you wrong

    • @SamyakGupta-e5q
      @SamyakGupta-e5q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      Tf2 mercs have really good character, like spy is French, soldier is an over patriotic American, medic is a mad German doctor
      And same goes to other classes

  • @G0A7
    @G0A7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1614

    I fail to comprehend how people see gacha games earning millions every month and think "im sure its because of the story and the gameplay"

    • @Borkyius
      @Borkyius 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

      To be fair, in recent years, games like especially, Arknights or Nikke do sell pretty well due to having a interesting story.
      But yea, most gacha's money maker are cute and hot characters/skkns.

    • @G0A7
      @G0A7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

      @@Borkyius i dont think nikke is a good example, i cant say anything about arknights

    • @DioBrando-qr6ye
      @DioBrando-qr6ye 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +143

      @@G0A7 Nikke has both the story and the asses. But western prudes tend to disregard everything else when they see big ass.
      Pretty much like they did with Stellar Blade.

    • @G0A7
      @G0A7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@DioBrando-qr6ye What i played of nikke didnt show signs of a great history, but im glad they provided one after all

    • @platypus908
      @platypus908 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      @@G0A7 Limbus Company might be a better example of such.

  • @sebdaniel8940
    @sebdaniel8940 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3354

    I 100% thought Daw was a woman until now

    • @olzhas1one755
      @olzhas1one755 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +498

      Me too, and I believe this is deeply fascinating. Absolutely no assumptions you could make about this particular character are correct. I wonder if this was an intentional sociological experiment by some mischievous dev on the team.

    • @peterparker-q1q
      @peterparker-q1q 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +411

      because megamind devs made all characters in that game to look like trans or gays

    • @angel_of_rust
      @angel_of_rust 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +186

      that's what woke people look like in a nutshell.

    • @Spongemonkey26
      @Spongemonkey26 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

      Bro so did I, which furthers DX's point on readable character design.

    • @jacks1678
      @jacks1678 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Fupa

  • @TheDoomMaster
    @TheDoomMaster 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4140

    You know your game fucked up when the R34 artists don't want to go anywhere near your characters

    • @Acacius1992
      @Acacius1992 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +167

      @@TheDoomMaster Even they have left some standards

    • @JoseHernandez-xv2bt
      @JoseHernandez-xv2bt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +140

      @@Acacius1992that’s the true surprise for me, that fricking R34 doesn’t even want to get near this pile of garbage

    • @JoeyP946
      @JoeyP946 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

      every single one of these characters can be improved by 1 single input with chat gpt. But no they needed 100 white liberal female devs

    • @nicknevco215
      @nicknevco215 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They did forspoken in 34

    • @TheAkrillion
      @TheAkrillion 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      @@nicknevco215 Because at least the main character of that was still decent looking, if you ignore some unfortunate frames and angles.

  • @jimmypackorino
    @jimmypackorino 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3175

    the fact that people were willing to play the first descendant really speaks to how much character design means lol

    • @coltonwilkie241
      @coltonwilkie241 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +269

      And The First Descendant is terrible. It's carried by Ultimate Bunny.

    • @luckyducky7819
      @luckyducky7819 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +402

      @@coltonwilkie241 I don't think its that bad. It is a bog standard looter shooter, but I think people confuse "mid" with "bad" too often.

    • @r1g0r_m0rt1s
      @r1g0r_m0rt1s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      ​@@luckyducky7819Just another wannabe Destiny/Warframe/Division

    • @coltonwilkie241
      @coltonwilkie241 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +113

      @luckyducky7819 I don't think the game is mid though. I think it's complete dog water as a video game. It does nothing new, everything it does do is done poorly and the only saving grace for the game is the character designs.

    • @dr_diddy
      @dr_diddy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      @@coltonwilkie241 1 time use shaders and it takes days to unlock the new character but the game is made for coomers so the complaints won't be heard.
      There was a time where 40 hours to unlock vader would get a company decimated, now it's a tuesday.

  • @gstephenson9442
    @gstephenson9442 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +582

    TF2 is a great example of perfect character designs and zero sex appeal. They don’t have to be sexy but I really believe Mercy from Overwatch is also just a great design, she is supposed to “look like an angel” of course she’s attractive.

    • @ajdndbdjbdj
      @ajdndbdjbdj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

      Tf2 design is just top tier, so simple, yet so informative and iconic

    • @Mrhouse-k1x
      @Mrhouse-k1x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      Meanwhile tf2 fanbase getting ptsd attack from a Song called tick-tock by joji

    • @aguy3753
      @aguy3753 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      zero sex appeal? have you ever been in the tf2 community

    • @hunde2430
      @hunde2430 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      "zero sex appeal" dude didnt glance once at topless TF2 characters (pyro pyro pyro)

    • @mariustan9275
      @mariustan9275 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@aguy3753 By DEFAULT they aren't designed for sex appeal.

  • @Arcademan09
    @Arcademan09 หลายเดือนก่อน +250

    >cute character
    >wow they're cute
    >they're fun to play
    >I'll get this costume for them
    >cool character
    >wow they're cool
    >they're fun to play
    >I'll get this costume for them
    >Ugly character
    >wow they're ugly
    >Gameplay is pretty mid
    >all these costumes are awful
    I wonder which one gamers prefer

    • @code066funkinbird3
      @code066funkinbird3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I pick blue archive

    • @emirhanozkan32
      @emirhanozkan32 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@code066funkinbird3
      Cute characters
      Nothing is entertaining about the gameplay
      Ill play for their cuteness

    • @code066funkinbird3
      @code066funkinbird3 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@emirhanozkan32 nic3

    • @code066funkinbird3
      @code066funkinbird3 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@emirhanozkan32 nice and their ost good too

    • @emirhanozkan32
      @emirhanozkan32 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@code066funkinbird3 I was talking about your perspective i have enough boring games up my sleeve

  • @DeadFishFactory
    @DeadFishFactory 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1372

    Deadlock has a character that is literally supposed to be ugly because she's a gargoyle with Ivy, but Valve crafted her character to be such a cinnamon bun that gives her a great contrast between how she looks and how her personality is, that she has more fanart and rule34 than the entirety of Concord.

    • @VeraShtrobl-zy2xk
      @VeraShtrobl-zy2xk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +189

      Valve are the masters of character design just look at any character from tf2 and you instantly know what they are about and that goes for not just the mercs but also tha Mann brother hale etc.

    • @jurtheorc8117
      @jurtheorc8117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

      Deliberately ugly, strange or at least unusual characters have their audience (lewd stuff aside) . Rayman, for example. Abe, Munch and Stranger from Oddworld. More recently, Pseudo from Clash: Artifacts of Chaos-- and that guy is uncanny as all get-out. Dude looks like a sore, grumpy nail-less noseless thumb with an old man's armpit for a throat and a mandrake painted orange with traffic gridding bodypaint for a body.
      In terms of personality: He's a hermit, somewhat old guy (seems middle-aged but it's hard to tell with Zenos) that has a "get out there to get stuff done" attitude. Pseudo's got his old pains, not feeling like a whole person, but he doesn't let that factor into what he can do in the moment.
      He's got his moments of kindness, sass, humor, annoyance, anger, wisdom, and can even be outright menacing.
      I find Pseudo cool to the point that i don't want to say his personality contrasts with his design to make him more memorable, because i feel like it would state "he's cool despite his looks".
      But both his appearance and who he is elevate one another.
      Warmly recommend looking up that game.

    • @EngieMak
      @EngieMak 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@jurtheorc8117 Looked him up and liked his design,just uh.....unfortunate that his neck resemble something else.

    • @angel_of_rust
      @angel_of_rust 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      the first shirtless flatchested female character in gaming. Larry Fink and Kim Belair in the board room like: "How is this possible?" with guns to their heads

    • @jurtheorc8117
      @jurtheorc8117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EngieMak Hah, you're not wrong there! People have compared him to an old sausage that rolled under the couch, or an elongated nipple, or a mandrake root painted orange with a sore, grumpy nail-less noseless thumb for a head, or simply a penis man :P
      He's weird, strange and uncanny, and i can see that for others Pseudo would be too strange, so i'm glad that you like his look!
      He's from a prequel to the Zeno Clash series which are full of strange and interesting designs and a pretty unique world. Not many monster worlds like it. Can warmly recommend you to look into it, if it got your interest!

  • @PhantasmicCackla
    @PhantasmicCackla 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +483

    I can’t believe a game somehow generated character designs that not only suck on their own, but just make people want to gouge their eyes out.

    • @resolutogamer4859
      @resolutogamer4859 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      I totally agree with the part about the intestines on the clothes 🤢🤮

    • @RyuHardGore
      @RyuHardGore 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@resolutogamer4859 I hadn't noticed them, the more I see them the uglier they get🤢

    • @windws7137
      @windws7137 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@resolutogamer4859 They thought they're edgy🤮🤮

  • @oaksaint4458
    @oaksaint4458 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +595

    Concord's characters look like you pressed "random" while creating a character in WWE or Soul Calibur. The photorealistic art style also makes it very uncanny.

    • @WhoKnowsNose
      @WhoKnowsNose 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I like the photorealistic style quite a bit, but the characters themselves were just not eye catching at all, minus one or two

  • @-_Nuke_-
    @-_Nuke_- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    As a graphics designer, I know that many of you might find this criticism very harsh on Concord. But in our industry - this is how people talk to each other - this is how you eventually get to have good looking things, and more importantly - things that work.
    This video is basically what you would hear if you could evesdrop into a meeting between designers.
    I don't know if DX is a designer himself - but if he's not - then he clearly has all the correct mindset to become one.

  • @R0UGE122
    @R0UGE122 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +195

    It's easy to say "Concord didn't have sexy characters, therefore it failed". That is partially true, but I'm glad to see someone explaining WHY it failed beyond the obvious.

  • @aquapendulum
    @aquapendulum 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +832

    You miss a crucial one: Emari's shield. This is supposed to be a tank character, but compare her shield size to Reinhardt's shield size. Reinhardt's shield is wide enough to fit another Reinhardt on the left and the right side each. It's also a very transparent shield, perfectly enabling allies to hide behind and take shots from. Emari's shield is not only so narrow that it only fits herself, it's also not as transparent as Reinhardt's shield. It has wavy patterns and it FLASHES WHITE when it is hit. That's such a bad oversight for a simple character archetype as a tank.

    • @DXFromYT
      @DXFromYT  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +183

      I played Emari once and it was like playing the game in slow motion. Great catch on her shield. Such terrible design all around.

    • @LuvzToLol21
      @LuvzToLol21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      SHE HAS A SHIELD!?

    • @DYrai
      @DYrai 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@LuvzToLol21 Had*

    • @atlas3556
      @atlas3556 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      Also, Reinhardt is just more visually appealing than Emari. He's huge (the tallest character in Overwatch physically at roughly 7'4), and his armor looks tough, angular and heavy-duty, which gives a far superior presentation of power than the random lady in plastic green pads. Plus he's got a rocket hammer (literally a hammer with a rocket attached to make it faster) which allows him to rake in yet more points for Rule Of Cool.

    • @ShadowPirateX
      @ShadowPirateX 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      ⁠@@atlas3556 Not to mention Reinhardt’s over-the-top bombastic personality with no indoors voice (I could hear him over the voice chat!) where he keeps yelling about GLORIOUS COMBAT and HONOR AND JUSTICE just gives him further points for presentation.

  • @MTLoveridge
    @MTLoveridge 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +915

    The character designs of Concord are so unbelievably non-sensical. They seem to be designed by a group of people who were given 3 word descriptions and were told "Design that".

    • @rykehuss3435
      @rykehuss3435 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

      I think one of the devs tweeted that the game was designed in committees, like that was a good thing

    • @TheBadmatter
      @TheBadmatter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      Its actually impressive how they made basically all their characters look cringe and unsettling

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      It's what a bunch of terminally online people thinks looks cool with their circle of people which I guess it's fine, but the problem is that the game was made to appeal to the casual demographic who just wants generally cool and flashy designs which concord lacks.

    • @voctur
      @voctur 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      Nah, good character designers can make somethinh good with just a 3 words description.
      These people are unable to make something good even with a detailed description

    • @Scornfull
      @Scornfull 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@rykehuss3435 That doesn't surprise me given how one of the devs threw a hissy fit over people calling the characters ugly LOL

  • @Y_KM
    @Y_KM 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +549

    If you don't wanna make "sexy" character's atleast give them a little personality they are as lively as a loaf of bread 🍞

    • @erica8952
      @erica8952 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

      Or at least make them cool. You don't want the women in the game to all be bombshell strippers? Then make them cyborgs or velociraptors or some kind of eldritch abomination.
      If you don't want to rely on sexiness you still need something that's immediately cool and eye catching in a character's design.

    • @ezanawright7971
      @ezanawright7971 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @Y_KM it not like he saying he doesn't want character being sexy and he wasn't only talking about women he saying if you want to don't make character at least make look cool

    • @birb5306
      @birb5306 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Like Junkrat. He’s an unsexy little rat but he’s incredibly fun

    • @joannelee5574
      @joannelee5574 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@erica8952 cyborg velociraptor women sound metal as hell lol

    • @code066funkinbird3
      @code066funkinbird3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I miss someone like that in the anime with big b00bs while just eating bread

  • @theastroguy7417
    @theastroguy7417 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +406

    Concord:"B-But, we wanted to be inclusive! Our game had the most diverse cast!"
    Overwatch has a more diverse cast and it's had that since 2016, to the point it RIVALED TF2, the cast with: A black, scotsman with a disability (Missing eye), the overweight russian, the frenchy, the doctor with a severe mental health problem, the soldier with lead poisoning, scout, a new zealand blood austrailian native sniper, a prosthetic hand having texan and pyro. Oh, and don't forget MS. PAULING who, despite her lack of actual strength against any of the mercs, IS THEIR BOSS. A woman boss in 2007, when it was still uncommon but not completely missing. Concord tried a formula that was in place for years with thousands of different ideas in it to improve, and still failed.

    • @BaconGamign
      @BaconGamign 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      You can say so many things about scout, but somehow just saying "scout" seems more fitting

    • @code066funkinbird3
      @code066funkinbird3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol

    • @easportssucks4347
      @easportssucks4347 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The fact is people who complain about inclusion are just flat out wrong about it, or at least grossly exaggerating the problem in recent years.

  • @override367
    @override367 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    I am very appreciative of a critical eye that explains why Concord is bad without saying "it's woke", you actually explain. My theory is that the Asmongold "anti woke" audience is split between people who are just biggots, and the larger group that don't have the media literacy to express *why* they don't like something so they grasp at the loudest explanation that agrees with them. This is a really genuinely good video and a breath of fresh air in the howling monkeysphere that is youtube criticism

    • @DXFromYT
      @DXFromYT  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Thanks so much!

    • @johnathandoe6034
      @johnathandoe6034 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Looooove this reply. This whole Anti-Woke nonsense going around easily hides the real and actual criticisms that can be taken against this game.

  • @xRIPx86
    @xRIPx86 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +358

    That thumbnail worked.....
    More than concord did

    • @zero11010
      @zero11010 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@xRIPx86 🤣

  • @purelysmetalnightcore
    @purelysmetalnightcore 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1238

    I'm a woman that plays games specifically geared towards women, and if you go on any social media site and look up the games I play you'll see women drooling over how attractive EVERY character is, both male and female. Everyone wants attractive characters except AAA devs.

    • @thatlat5831
      @thatlat5831 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +148

      Thank you. Someone finally said it. People like looking at attractive characters that is just a fact that is how we are geared we first judge a person through their appearance afterall and that is the same with fictional characters we judge them first by their design. Also lets say we head over to the LGBTQ community most of them would probably say they like looking at attractive people. Cause that is just how humans work.

    • @DioTheGreatOne
      @DioTheGreatOne 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +147

      True, male characters are also sexualized. Mainly by making them have absolutely gigantic muscles and a lot of the times walking around shirtless.
      And that is NOT a bad thing.

    • @joshuaandrewson3091
      @joshuaandrewson3091 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      *Activists pretending as Triple A Devs.

    • @BackToTheGame.98
      @BackToTheGame.98 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      It's like developers are trying to appeal to a very, very loud minority of people who are complaining about sexualized/attractive characters. I'd guess most of these people don't really play video games, and the few that do aren't their target audience anyway.

    • @thatlat5831
      @thatlat5831 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      @@BackToTheGame.98 It is amazing how when you ask attractive people in video games they automatically assume you are just a pervert?
      No i just like looking at handsome and beautiful people. Neither Panam and Judy are oversexualized but you know both of them are fairly attractive people

  • @mr.derpyface558
    @mr.derpyface558 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +490

    7:29 I think someone called this character a Monster’s Inc. scream canister.

    • @angel_of_rust
      @angel_of_rust 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • @JoseHernandez-xv2bt
      @JoseHernandez-xv2bt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Now that you mention it yeah I can see it

    • @BackToTheGame.98
      @BackToTheGame.98 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He looks like the bomb robots from the movie The Creator

    • @Hurrhurrrrnaurrrr2
      @Hurrhurrrrnaurrrr2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Mint flavored michellin man

    • @carso1500
      @carso1500 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Holy shit he does look like one
      And you know the sad part, I think he is the best design in the entite game

  • @Destiny-absolete
    @Destiny-absolete 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    You know you're cooked when even rule 34 doesn't acknowledge your existence

  • @Jane-qh2yd
    @Jane-qh2yd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +128

    Overwatch: Makes incredibly unique looking characters with different themes and color pallets to bring in interest
    Counter Strike: Cop and terrorist

    • @ArdaSReal
      @ArdaSReal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Once a hero shooter the other is a point and click adventure

    • @windws7137
      @windws7137 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@ArdaSReal point and click💀💀
      Well in CS the focus is on not the characters, but the weapons' cosmetics, so the strategy still checks out

    • @channie3169
      @channie3169 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      counter strike had the privilege of not having to compete with every other game on the market today, and valorant is probably closer to it than overwatch

    • @therandomlaniusedward2140
      @therandomlaniusedward2140 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@windws7137 And CS's gameplay is better than concord. Who TF makes it non-respawnable in a "capture the point" type of mission? (concord did)

    • @Destinum
      @Destinum หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      On top of just having a different visual appeal than hero shooters, games like Counter Strike and Call of Duty have the benefit of establishing themselves early in the gaming landscape, and thus nowadays having very recognizable branding. Try making a completely new "realistic military shooter" IP nowadays, and I'm very confident there's no way for it to succeed bar some _very_ new and inventive gameplay or something.

  • @TheeDeathCaster
    @TheeDeathCaster 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +631

    2:35
    "Who's that Pokemon?!?!"
    "IT'S PIKACHU!!!"
    "It's Clefairy!"
    "FUUUUU-"

    • @undertaleislife7210
      @undertaleislife7210 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Classic

    • @rtbear674
      @rtbear674 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      "Who's that Pokemon?!?!"
      "IT'S SNORLAX!!!!"
      "It's Daw!"
      "Close enough, I understand"

    • @Joshdagod97
      @Joshdagod97 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Golden

    • @nicknevco215
      @nicknevco215 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love that one

    • @mystery8820
      @mystery8820 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "Jigglypuff seen from above.", anyone?

  • @SmithOfGear92
    @SmithOfGear92 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +289

    It's astounding how Daw has pretty much become a poster-child for what *NOT* to do when designing characters; everyone discussing the art failures of Concord has cited Daw as the worst. Nothing about his design says "I'm a medic"; were it not for the flavor text in the bottom right corner of the UI, you would never think he's anything but just a guy in a blue jacket.

    • @angel_of_rust
      @angel_of_rust 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      nothing about him even says "him"
      almost everyone thought he was female until they saw his pronouns

    • @ARStudios2000
      @ARStudios2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      I'd say he's the most immersion breaking thing in the whole game
      I've had one of the games defenders straight up tune out on me (in their own fucking words by the way) because I criticized Daw as being out of place in a game like this, simply because according to their logic, "You went on a weird tirade about Saw being unrealistic but then wanting a more reptilian design for Lennox", like, first off this is the kind of stuff you'd get punched in the face in high school for. If someone's trying to have a decent respectful conversation, and they tune out like that? Tell em to fuck off.
      Daw IS immersion breaking because he's out of shape fat. He's not strong fat like Roadhog, or athletic fat which exists. He's out of shape weak fat. In a game like Concord, he just looks completely ridiculous

    • @SmithOfGear92
      @SmithOfGear92 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      @@angel_of_rust That too. His facial features are very soft-- so soft that a lot of people confused him for a girl.
      I get that not every guy will be some super chiseled manly man, but facial features as soft as Daw's either make him look like a girl or a young kid

    • @polker8380
      @polker8380 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      ​@@SmithOfGear92 would have been cool if they designed Daw as a veteran space war field medic, instead of... whatever that is...

    • @patsagonsaechin3006
      @patsagonsaechin3006 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      He looks like a random guy I'd see in shopping mall.

  • @fluffywolfo3663
    @fluffywolfo3663 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +152

    the lesson i personally took from all this is, _everything_ about a character design should be communicating something to you. Down to the name. Pharah's name tells you that she's egyptian, the blue and bird motifs tell you she can fly, and you're supposed to have the idea she's basically wearing a fighter jet. McCree is a cowboy, as you can tell from the earthy tones, hat, poncho, and very visible revolver.
    And as compared to roka and lennox, like... Roka just looks like someone with a rocket launcher who bought the most boringly-colored unitard from a dance supply place and put a Destiny helmet over it, and Lennox's orange vest takes so much focus away from the revolvers. Also, he does not have a hat, which doesn't immediately tell you "this is the gunslinger." And their colors just... kinda _blah_, background colors at best.

    • @ARStudios2000
      @ARStudios2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      I especially wanna put mention on the gunslinger part.
      Some people were saying to some redesigning artists that "Lennox isn't a cowboy, he's described as a gunslinger!"
      Like, do you fucking realize how little that narrows it down? Gunslinger is literally "guy with gun", what the fuck is Lennox then? A cop? A cowboy? A patrolman? A terrorist?
      I swear, Lennox is such a strange case where I feel like even the developers didn't like him. He's on the face of the cover yet he's so underwhelming in so many ways (have you seen his gameplay? Those revolvers do pitiful damage)

    • @fluffywolfo3663
      @fluffywolfo3663 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@ARStudios2000I know, right? four shots to kill people with a revolver?! And those shots have crazy bullet magnetism? Wack.
      Also so many things about him just clash. The sharp edges on his arm, the rounded vest. Like you said, "do you fucking realize how little that narrows it down," and I'm gonna continue from that by saying he's just... full of ideas that don't work together. And also what... what is that color scheme. Orange, gray-blue, and baby-vomit green skin?
      Also apparently he's "really old" (146) but nothing about him looks old. Maybe... I dunno, make his outfit look antiquated in comparison by making it look like he has a raygun gothic bodysuit under a vest or something so he looks like a young guy in old man clothes. Or just make him look old.

    • @polker8380
      @polker8380 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@fluffywolfo3663 yeah, it's so weird that they keep reminding people that Lennox is old. He look, dressed and act nothing like an old person. Unless the people at Firewalk somehow thought obsessing over hot sauce is considered an old person trait.

    • @fluffywolfo3663
      @fluffywolfo3663 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@polker8380 it was delivered as close to “as you know” as you can be without saying those exact words.

    • @vivelespatat2670
      @vivelespatat2670 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thanks for using McCree and not Cassidy 🤝

  • @-RH80-
    @-RH80- 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    This is very simple, the first thing you notice of someone that grab your attention is the physical appearance, isnt their feelings. Back in the arcade era we choose on which machine we insert the quarter for the first time based on the characters design first later the gameplay came in to hook you up inserting more quartes. Characters design is the presentation card, thats the most basic thing for every media. It can be realistic or cartoonish, as long it is atractive or have personality you already have one side cover. Once the design is cover focus on game play and replay value. Is very simple, the problem today is that the message is above everything else.

    • @archiveacc3248
      @archiveacc3248 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Great point. I remember in the early days of gaming, all the art on the arcade machines and on the game boxes was super crazy or had hot characters. Then the games had nothing to do with the cool art that drew you in 😂 and it 100% worked to get people playing.
      It's crazy that a company can spend millions to make a game and forget such a simple rule that was figured out 40 years ago.

    • @danielloewen2857
      @danielloewen2857 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They weren't even pushing the message! They were just trying not to get run over by it. Which is still crazy, like who cares if a bunch of people who won't ever play your game don't like it?

  • @gajogrande
    @gajogrande 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +137

    Having something like "tactician/he/him" which equates sexual identity to the actual role of the character makes you roll your eyes so hard you unconsciously try to avoid such a cringe game.

    • @ethereal1356
      @ethereal1356 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm not even right wing or anything but why is the left so cringe wtf? This looks like ass

    • @DrChaotix21
      @DrChaotix21 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You got a problem with Tacticians?

    • @gajogrande
      @gajogrande หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      @ no. I came out as a tactician recently. Parents didn’t take it too well though.

    • @DrChaotix21
      @DrChaotix21 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@gajogrande Congrats on the conversion. Hope your situation becomes better.

    • @blubug768
      @blubug768 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      When the characters are just hideous amorphous blobs, the pronouns kinda help ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @GlaDos321
    @GlaDos321 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +690

    I just wanna play characters that look cool or are sexy. Thats it, I don't want to play a character that looks like somebody you would see at a Seattle Wal-mart.

    • @EvilAngelXV
      @EvilAngelXV 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

      Me too I prefer to play attractive/average good-looking characters just to escape reality and have fun.

    • @ryszakowy
      @ryszakowy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      seattle wallmart XD
      dude the game is already dead you don't have to kill it like that XD

    • @BRINGTHENERFHERDERS
      @BRINGTHENERFHERDERS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      having lived in Seattle and shopped at the Walmart there, the only people there were normal looking regular people. So you're telling me you don't like normal looking people and want anime UWU sex dolls in the game?

    • @ezanawright7971
      @ezanawright7971 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      @joshua-t7w yes we don't imao we play video games to escape reality not experience it

    • @ezanawright7971
      @ezanawright7971 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      @baalfgames5318 he said he does not want characters to look like someday to our reality do you read the comment properly

  • @nicko7939
    @nicko7939 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +176

    it's not only design but the attitude

    • @timothyn4699
      @timothyn4699 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      for sure, personality

  • @BROTRRer
    @BROTRRer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +538

    Concord failed so youtubers could thrive

    • @nicknevco215
      @nicknevco215 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      What a blessing

    • @BackToTheGame.98
      @BackToTheGame.98 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      There's been like dozens of video essays recommended to me by TH-cam on why Concord failed, out why it's character designs were bad. TH-camrs are staying busy.

  • @mr.perfect748
    @mr.perfect748 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Widowmaker in thumbnail = new subscriber

  • @potato_723
    @potato_723 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +131

    The marketing for concord was 5 years too late. People didn't want more MCU humour. The trailer aged like milk before it came out. Just adding this

  • @claytonrios1
    @claytonrios1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +655

    Character designs certainly sold Overwatch! Just look at all of the fan art for Tracer and Widowmaker even if its of the lewd variety!

    • @senzulean4642
      @senzulean4642 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

      the gooners always win in the end

    • @mekingtiger9095
      @mekingtiger9095 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

      As is the case for Nikke and Stellar Blade, if you know what I mean...

    • @IsoMacintosh
      @IsoMacintosh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

      Overwatch at this point is immortal in a way, even if the game fails there will still be people making art of the characters.

    • @kosmosfan01
      @kosmosfan01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      The R34 artists were out here setting world records for how fast they got the Juno artwork out after the first trailer 😂

    • @TheNameIsSR
      @TheNameIsSR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      I mean, sexappeal has been shown to work a billion times in the past. From Street Fighter to Tomb Raider. Not to mention the movie and music industry.

  • @doratheshade
    @doratheshade 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +151

    People really underestimate how much other people stay playing simply because they like a character. Hell, fighting games work that way because someone might be gravitated towards a fighting style simply because they vibe with the fighter. It's not just for looking hot or cute. It's part of the personality of the game.

    • @kyleRayn
      @kyleRayn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I've never agreed more with a comment.
      I love Mortal Kombat for example. My favourite character is Reptile. In every game he's in, I automatically play him. He's just so cool and his moves and appearances are perfect for me personally.
      Your comment hit the nail on the head.

    • @ShadowPirateX
      @ShadowPirateX 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Some people will even learn to get the hang of difficult characters just because of how much they like them. I used to be kinda bad with Spider-Man in UMvC3, but I’ve forced myself to get the hang of him just because I’ve been a Spider-Man fan since childhood.

    • @Khn_2102
      @Khn_2102 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Best comment

    • @meh.96
      @meh.96 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Me with Ken, ever since SF3 Third Strike(cos Daigo). Tho funny enough, I dont like his SF6 design, so I play with his classic costume.

    • @lasarousi
      @lasarousi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Have you seen the amount of street fighter 6 channels that exclusively play the big thigh ladies just to add sexy mods.

  • @droplemmy
    @droplemmy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    3:13 is this the fortnite render of the xeno 💀

  • @claytonlehmann3483
    @claytonlehmann3483 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Every time you cut to Daw on screen I burst out laughing 💀

  • @taithanh258
    @taithanh258 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +111

    my 16 years old mind was blown after OW "Dragons" cinematic trailer, i can be a cyborg ninja with big dragon katana ?

    • @danitron4096
      @danitron4096 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But in concord you could be an obese man with a generic gun and a pizza!

    • @ArdaSReal
      @ArdaSReal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      You can be a spaceranger fighting an evil monk robot now while you get healed by a peruvian sun goddes

    • @DrChaotix21
      @DrChaotix21 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@ArdaSReal While a cowboy covers your approach with a six-shooter and flashbangs.

    • @therandomlaniusedward2140
      @therandomlaniusedward2140 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Play MGRR! It's a great game, where you are a cyborg ninja with tech-katana!

  • @Harmonia96
    @Harmonia96 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +192

    Masahiro Sakurai holding a small lecture on his TH-cam channel about character silhouettes a month prior to Concord bombing is a hilarious coincidence, almost for Sony to show "This is how *NOT* to do it."

    • @ShadowPirateX
      @ShadowPirateX 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Sakurai: “No… This is not how you’re supposed to play the game!”

    • @vivelespatat2670
      @vivelespatat2670 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      He made games for good boys and girls after all

    • @code066funkinbird3
      @code066funkinbird3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@vivelespatat2670yup

  • @qwertzy121212
    @qwertzy121212 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    Daw's shirt and pants are nearly the exact same shade as cigarette packs are in Canada (and several other countries like Australia, i think), a shade that was deliberately chosen to be as unappealing as possible lmfao

  • @NZOMV
    @NZOMV 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    2b. That is all.

    • @SteveTheVehicon
      @SteveTheVehicon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      A man of culture i see

    • @MoonyKoonony
      @MoonyKoonony 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Nothing can top 2b 🗿🍷

    • @HotDogGodorno
      @HotDogGodorno หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      man i dont even know where she came from but i see that girl EVERYWHERE lol, so much cosplayers and modded skins

    • @Carlito-yq8yi
      @Carlito-yq8yi หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HotDogGodorno See, I was jerking off to 2B long before I knew she was a character from Nier Automata. I don't even play games like that - a japanese chick with huge swords walking around and slashing robots. So imagine my surprise when I actually tried it and realized it was unironically a goddamn masterpiece. Up there with The Witcher 3 or Red Dead Redemption 2. As for 2B, she's clearly meant to be uberattractive; love it or hate it, but the point is that's a design that works. Something you cannot unsee. Which is why, thanks to r34, Square Enix got my $25 - or whatever it cost me. (Seriously, don't sleep on Nier Automata)

    • @code066funkinbird3
      @code066funkinbird3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I miss her too

  • @kanishksingh5146
    @kanishksingh5146 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    11:24 “general inexperience” dude they had 8 full years of experience

  • @sombodythatyouusedtoknow9046
    @sombodythatyouusedtoknow9046 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +171

    As Fleekazoid said "Sex sales and budget cuts bankrupt" make attractive character and the players will go to you

    • @ARStudios2000
      @ARStudios2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Do I see another Pimperor?

    • @Living-pretzel
      @Living-pretzel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Fleekazoid would make our fuhër proud

    • @mitacestalia7532
      @mitacestalia7532 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      literally how snowbreak saves themselves from bankruptcy

    • @sombodythatyouusedtoknow9046
      @sombodythatyouusedtoknow9046 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Living-pretzel ja,he could out meth him and he would be impressed

    • @temtem9255
      @temtem9255 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Living-pretzelIt's "Führer"

  • @BlackAera
    @BlackAera 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +564

    4:17 Wait a second... that's a MALE character?! No wonder the designs don't work... I legit thought that was an overweight woman.

    • @franglais-riders
      @franglais-riders 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Me too !!

    • @darkspark5854
      @darkspark5854 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Same….

    • @RaizelLi
      @RaizelLi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      thats spiderman's best friend

    • @karamb1t_420
      @karamb1t_420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Welcome to California

    • @KnightEclipser
      @KnightEclipser 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "that's a MALE character?! [...] I legit thought that was an overweight woman."
      Not every man or woman looks the same.

  • @Roadiedave
    @Roadiedave 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    HIS?? Omg lol I thought Daw was a chick.

    • @Cecilion88292
      @Cecilion88292 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thats literally an ogre

  • @andrewthompson2167
    @andrewthompson2167 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Ur thumbnail sold this video

  • @solidskullz5736
    @solidskullz5736 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    The character design in concord is basically corporate executives thinking that throwing random bright colors one word looking outfits is enough to be interesting. There’s no rhyme or reason to any of it and some of them don’t even look like they belong in the game itself

    • @flamestoyershadowkill
      @flamestoyershadowkill 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The designs fe3l AI generated

    • @mattd5240
      @mattd5240 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You know what. I'm honna have to disagree. The designs I've gotten from AI are leagues better than anything in concord. AI is more creative than the empty vessels on the character design team.​@@flamestoyershadowkill

    • @ARStudios2000
      @ARStudios2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      They feel like corporate art if it was rendered realistically 3D

    • @temtem9255
      @temtem9255 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Oh no there is definitely a method to the madness here. It's basically 'guardians of the galaxy but sex appeal is banned and we need to tick checkboxes'

  • @ValkyrissaGaming
    @ValkyrissaGaming 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    I like that your explanations go far beyond the “diverse designs bad” of other people. Good video!

    • @tirramasu7948
      @tirramasu7948 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Concord looks barely diverse
      I was looking at the lineup on the time
      It felt so generic like generic models

    • @Mrhouse-k1x
      @Mrhouse-k1x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      The Concord characters are so "diverse" that they look like npc:s from a low budget game made in early 2000:s

  • @floofzykitty5072
    @floofzykitty5072 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +242

    Concord seemed so hellbent on avoiding objectifying and sexualising characters that it didn't realise that a sexualised character is not inherently objectified.
    A sexualised and objectified character has no personality or motives other than to be something the viewer ogles at. Think of the sterotypical damsel in distress that never contributes to the story, just exists to be seen and rescued. They are quite literally just an objective to achieve.
    A sexualised but non-objectified character is one who expresses agency in the story and influences the world around them directly. Think of a character like Bayonetta or Ada Wong, who drive the story forward and have their own motives and personality. Even when Ada becomes a "damsel in distress" in RE4, that doesn't retroactively remove the impact her actions had on the events of RE4.
    Your characters can be damn near nude for all I care as long as they are actually interesting characters.

    • @ARStudios2000
      @ARStudios2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      for the last point, Conan the Barbarian!

    • @phaolo6
      @phaolo6 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      @floofzykitty5072
      True, even if there's nothing bad if a female character just wanted to look sexy without being a "strong woman" or having "manipulative behaviours". Objectifying happens when sexualization isn't justified from the character's point of view and interests.
      Btw even objectifying isn't that outrageous, as long as it doesn't become prevalent in the industry. Guys sometimes just want to look at sexy girls without any deeper meaning hehe.

    • @arsenkurmangali2997
      @arsenkurmangali2997 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Quiet from mgs5

    • @johnernest5843
      @johnernest5843 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good point about Bayonnetta
      She's sexualized to the cahoots, but you never think she's helpless or a mere background character. She's a bitch ass boss that's beloved by women and men alike.
      And even when she's damn near nude, her silhouette, face, and personality are still the highlights of her design

    • @andhieyusuf7008
      @andhieyusuf7008 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Correct. The answer to objectifying sexualization of girls in video games is not full-on puritanism: make them strong, intelligent and proud of themselves. Also, balance them with equally hot guys.

  • @erasmus_locke
    @erasmus_locke 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    It looks like a game that was specifically designed to be as inoffensive as possible.
    At best this results in vanilla and at worst it becomes disgusting flavorless paste

  • @genericcringe1271
    @genericcringe1271 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Came for the thumbnail.
    Stayed for the video.
    A perfect lesson of character design in a TH-camr.

  • @Fluskar
    @Fluskar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +165

    im gonna be honest, i deadass thought daw was a woman at first

    • @JoseHernandez-xv2bt
      @JoseHernandez-xv2bt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I thought the same too

    • @kyleRayn
      @kyleRayn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same here.

    • @SCREAMshot6781
      @SCREAMshot6781 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same here as well. I thought that until I heard Daw's voice 💀

    • @KnightEclipser
      @KnightEclipser 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not every man or woman looks the same.

    • @realperspectiv3
      @realperspectiv3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Same

  • @nufsioohay
    @nufsioohay 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

    "Cosmetic microtransactions don't affect gameplay so they are ok to have." I'd love to hear these people come back and say something now because sure it didn't affect gameplay.... but they affected gaming as a whole.

    • @angel_of_rust
      @angel_of_rust 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      show them a game from the 6th console gen where cosmetics and characters are simply unlockable by playing the game or entering cheat codes and they will disintegrate in real time

    • @nufsioohay
      @nufsioohay 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@angel_of_rust they can't imagine having to actually play a game to unlock stuff.

    • @phaolo6
      @phaolo6 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      All true, even if cosmetic can also affect gameplay in multiplayer, since it can make more difficult to recognize characters on the fly due to the mess of available skins.

    • @Mediados
      @Mediados 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because they could not see how vile they would be with it.

    • @nufsioohay
      @nufsioohay 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@phaolo6 yeah there's a chance that can happen in competitive games.

  • @HomersIlliad
    @HomersIlliad 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +361

    Concord's designs were so bad that I couldn't even guess their genders correctly, let alone their roles.

    • @anzheilen5217
      @anzheilen5217 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      I guess that's their intenton behind the design and they nailed it perfectly seeing how your reaction is.

    • @mrbluebell2735
      @mrbluebell2735 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Took a while to dig down. Every one except the mushroom xenomorph Lark is male. They run like sissies yet bone structure is teen boy size adjusted.

    • @JoeyP946
      @JoeyP946 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      lmaoo

    • @DioTheGreatOne
      @DioTheGreatOne 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      My brother, that was their intention.

    • @silverfoalan9045
      @silverfoalan9045 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      That’s why they have the pronouns in character info

  • @TheCODGUY21
    @TheCODGUY21 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great video! Top to bottom this was a great video fantastic format, great points that were well explained and easy to understand. Also the music choice and volume was great.

    • @DXFromYT
      @DXFromYT  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you!!

  • @MothershipLoudspeakerz
    @MothershipLoudspeakerz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    I asked my computer what he thought about char design and it answered with "80085"
    Hard agree tbh

  • @SuperCosmicMutantSquid
    @SuperCosmicMutantSquid 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +209

    Concord's designs are based on spite. They were far more concerned about sending whatever message they wanted against whom they considered "toxic male straight heyero gamers" blah blah blah, they thought that by DEFAULT their designs would be some sort of groundbreaking statement.
    This is the results; a bunch of characters who have proved to everyone they haven't played games from the last 4 decades if they think ANY of the ideas presented are 'firsts'.

    • @Spongemonkey26
      @Spongemonkey26 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      I'd argue the core mission for most of the activists in game development and media is spite against the actual players.

    • @Valarius_J
      @Valarius_J 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      They did everything in their power to make a game for people that don't actually play the games, yet spend all their time trying to change them.

    • @orboakin8074
      @orboakin8074 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well said 😂 Given how current western media are so fixated on making female and diverse characters ugly and with terrible personality, can we be blamed for not buying their stuff? Still confuses me as a Nigerian.

    • @Reverse_Hood
      @Reverse_Hood 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      nonsensical straw-manning

    • @Mrhouse-k1x
      @Mrhouse-k1x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      ​@@Reverse_Hoodhow exactly?

  • @jacplac97
    @jacplac97 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    Daw even makes Heavy from TF2 look fit and healthy.

    • @JeanneHamada
      @JeanneHamada 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Now that's just unfair comparison. Heavy might look fat but he is still an athlete

    • @jacplac97
      @jacplac97 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JeanneHamada He's literally called "fat" in some localizations.

    • @charlie_541
      @charlie_541 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@JeanneHamadaall the other characters in TF2 bully heavy for being fat lol

    • @zuhdibeyblade9
      @zuhdibeyblade9 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@JeanneHamadahe is slow and eats a lot. Even engineer, with his 11 PHDs called him fat.

    • @JeanneHamada
      @JeanneHamada 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@zuhdibeyblade9 Engineer is a nerd with 11 Ph.D

  • @Pancakewagon26
    @Pancakewagon26 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I had literally never even heard of concord until it came out and people started ragging on it for failing.
    $300 million game and not a single ad was able to reach me, a mid 20's male who loves shooter games, the prime demographic they should have been trying to get to.

  • @HobbCap
    @HobbCap 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    1:44 bro built like a ninja turtle 💀

  • @northerntoe
    @northerntoe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    When I saw the green girl “itsy” I actually could figure out what her powers were because she’s clearly supposed to be nightcrawler from X-Men
    The silhouette is recognizable because it’s basically stolen
    Other than that, she looks like one of those Navi from avatar
    Definitely the most interesting design
    I will admit, though the trashcan is OK he would be a good “Objective Npc” like the push bot
    he looks like something you would give an item to, and then he would fight for you or like a living tower from a moba shooter

  • @teneesh3376
    @teneesh3376 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    There's one fascinating thing about character to design. We are constantly told not to judge a book by its cover to not stereotype anyone.
    But in good character design, this is basically what you do. Making sure that a character's look is meant to explain who that character is. Exceptions being the subversions of expectations

    • @blobfish1649
      @blobfish1649 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Well I think the difference is that with a book, you only see the title at the beginning. It has little/no impact during the reading experience. A character, on the other hand, DOES impact the playing experience, so it's acceptable to judge them before playing.

  • @yokoyakamori6589
    @yokoyakamori6589 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    I waited until this video to finally see what Concord actually looked like and my god, there is almost nothing salvageable with most of these character designs.

  • @bambampewpew32
    @bambampewpew32 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Anybody gonna talk about how insanely long and unnecessary that pause was here lmfao 1:23

    • @DXFromYT
      @DXFromYT  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Hey, someone finally caught that. It was done to get the video above the 18 minute mark. Lol.

    • @ducanhdinh8574
      @ducanhdinh8574 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@DXFromYT Glad you're honest about that.

  • @tasenova2717
    @tasenova2717 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "because that's like saying no one in real life, can be attractive" 10:01
    That is hardest bar I have ever heard in game design discussions.
    This is such a good video.

  • @Tehstampede
    @Tehstampede 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +146

    It amazes me that nobody has made a hero shooter where all the characters are just hot chicks with bikini premium cosmetics, while having a fun gameplay loop and fairly passive monetization. Whoever does this first will be literally printing money.

    • @csabaszabo6859
      @csabaszabo6859 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      I don't think we are too far away from what you describe.

    • @lumirairazbyte9697
      @lumirairazbyte9697 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      That is NIKKE, and each character cost up to three times the price of Concord.

    • @rossman8919
      @rossman8919 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      no because you gotta make the work (or pay) for the bikini , if you give them the bikini too quickly they'll snap out of the trance and realize they can just watch porn instead

    • @srt7248
      @srt7248 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@lumirairazbyte9697 really? pretty sure you still get decent amount of premium character even being casual f2p player.

    • @lumirairazbyte9697
      @lumirairazbyte9697 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@srt7248 You don’t have the ability to chose the character you want. In the worst case, you have the character after 200 pulls.

  • @yurazah
    @yurazah 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    it bothers me how many people have said the issue is that it had a price tag, dude that doesn't matter. when people played early access no one was going "guys you gotta try this" none of the characters are appealing so no hype was drawn, its a game made by people marketing to an imaginary audience then being shocked when the actual audience of normal people weren't interested in it

  • @kosmosfan01
    @kosmosfan01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    Kiriko really is a money maker in OW2. I have a friend who will outright tell me how they didn't like a skin for her despite buying it and then perform some mental gymnastics when I asked why they got it in the first place since you didn't need to buy it to see how it looked with all the YT channels out there that showcase them.

    • @ArdaSReal
      @ArdaSReal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I already now she will get a new Halloween skin and theyre going to make 500 trillion bucks lol

    • @kosmosfan01
      @kosmosfan01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ArdaSReal Yup. Just throw out a recolored Witch Kiriko and there you go lol

  • @Kanteike
    @Kanteike หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Talking about good designs making you go "what game is that?": what game is in 17:37?

    • @DXFromYT
      @DXFromYT  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Rakugaki

  • @brownbear992
    @brownbear992 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    "Sex Sells", The amount of R34 a game has is proportional to is success.

  • @KevRyanCG
    @KevRyanCG 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    'Character Design' and that picture of Widowmaker is saying more than words here.

  • @nedjimb0
    @nedjimb0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I think a better comparison is Steven Universe.
    SU's characters have a wide range of body types, not just "sexy waifu". Like, Amethyst. The Rubies. Rose. Sadie. Jasper. Steven. Greg. All of them have beautiful design, complementary themes and color schemes. All of them look good. All of them are almost immediately recognizable from their silhouette.

    • @donuttree1
      @donuttree1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed, SU would have been a much better angle. "it's like a Steven Universe hero shooter" and everything that implies. lack of male gaze, and all.

    • @code066funkinbird3
      @code066funkinbird3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Steven universe are also gems like in houseki no kuni but magic i guess

  • @madeumad64
    @madeumad64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    TF2's initial design principle focused on the silhouette rule, making every class be distinguishable by their silhouette. Plus the color choices makes it instinctively clear who the enemy is and who is a teammate . I feel like with Overwatch, I'm shooting at the chaos, hoping I hit the enemy. But that's just me.

    • @ARStudios2000
      @ARStudios2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nah I feel ya on that

    • @TheAkrillion
      @TheAkrillion 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      While Overwatch doesn't focus on colorcoding the enemies and teammates, the silhouettes still play a big part in gameplay. If I'm on an elevation and about to start sniping the enemy team, if I see a big fat man with a gasmask and a hook round the corner, I know I'm not looking at someone like Soldier 76 or Lifeweaver, I'm looking at Roadhog, the tank with the hook who can grab me from all the way down there and bring me to him.
      Games like COD is where the "hero shooter" esque design philosophy falls through, because you see the hot woman in skintight suit or furry outfit and you can't tell if that's the enemy or a teammate, because both teams have characters with that overall design or skin. Same with the billionth edgy black skin with skulls, flames or a hood over their head(sometimes even all three, in the case of Ghost).

    • @shrub8644
      @shrub8644 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Definitely the part about homing spores made me think of my experiences with OW

  • @guilhermevalente708
    @guilhermevalente708 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bro 7:01 😭😭😭😭😭 The pure disdain was so funny, subscribed 😂

  • @FEYKUSH
    @FEYKUSH 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    its not only about sexy women, look at genji, this mf got me into OW1 about 6 years ago because I thought he was cool looking.
    yeah and ofc ashe too... she is damn hot ngl.
    but yeah, cool looking characters are important and for some reason Concord never did it, look at mortal kombat, pretty much everyone knows scorpion this guy was so fking cool he became an icon.

  • @crytkryssus9851
    @crytkryssus9851 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Whenever I see Daw, I just think "Homeless Mei".

  • @The_whales
    @The_whales 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I feel like whoever designed the concord characters wanted to avoid stereotyping, which not only ruins them but also ruins the confuses the player has if you expect you think but get another it’s very jarring

    • @ARStudios2000
      @ARStudios2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Well for trying to avoid stereotypes, they sure as hell made several themselves especially for the black characters.
      Bazz looks like freaking Thugnificent crossed with a disco wizard. Jabali and Bazz both wear the Morpheus shades, Jabali and Vale both do the braid things (despite wearing hats that would make those braids uncomfortable and ruin them especially in Vales case)

  • @theamazingfan8889
    @theamazingfan8889 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Marvel Rivals again proved it. Video aged like wine.

  • @Naktsmeita
    @Naktsmeita หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm a woman and one of my favorites games is the first Witcher . I never thought of need for my playable character to look like me, I had best time running around as white hair male , fighting monsters and collecting pretty art cards :) Concord characters look like their backstory is : Susan is 43 and after doing the school run, she enjoys energy drink and scrolling through instagram for rest of her day . That's it . they are boring . Remember Max Payne ? Grumpy, moody dark, great main theme music , still sends chills when someone use it in a video . Painkiller - just pure rage madness , lots of fun . I remember playing Blood Rayne and having best time of my life as her most awesome move was jumping on someone's shoulders and taking him out , playing as Dark elf mystic in Lineage 2, watching her b0obs defying gravity in most funniest way or running as undead priest in World Of Warcraft , with her bones sticking out of robe and farming of that stupid horse mount that I didn't get . Still had great time .
    I wouldn't play the Concord, it doesn't appeal to me , but even if I did , this game wouldn't spark any memories like that.
    Oh and I did play as Mercy . So yes, points on that . Mainly because she was cute , a healer and I love wings.

  • @mikubrot
    @mikubrot 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    the designs look like they don't know if they're cartoony or realistic. why have (realistic) impratical outfits if all their movements are still and lifeless? they end up looking like they're cosplaying themselves. seriously. I don't personally mind "ugly" characters but if there isn't even a personality behind a mediocre design, what is there to enjoy at all??

  • @diegodankquixote-wry3242
    @diegodankquixote-wry3242 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    Randomly recommended your channel, but I remember I used to watch your "I f*cking hate" series back in the day. Powerful thumbnail

    • @driguesbarcellos
      @driguesbarcellos 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ooooh, so that WAS him, i thought i was triping here

    • @TempoLOOKING
      @TempoLOOKING 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@driguesbarcellosgood times...oh the SAO video....yah Kiritos foundation got a lit from those videos😂.

    • @mekingtiger9095
      @mekingtiger9095 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol, I know him exactly from that series. Good times!

  • @unicorntomboy9736
    @unicorntomboy9736 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The fact there is no rule 34 nsfw content for Concord tells you everything you need to know. The fact that not even the most hardcore online degenerates wanna touch their game with a ten foot pole, shows how hard it failed to resonate with almost anyone.

  • @trendyfinger7408
    @trendyfinger7408 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Mario’s M hat, Micky’s three circles, giorno’s three donuts.
    Those unique silhouettes are give characters looks more iconic imo.

  • @direravendenial8947
    @direravendenial8947 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    The name Concord only for me being British of a certain age reminded me of the airliner and as the name of a game seems from my point of view an odd choice for a hero shooter. The points you made are very valid and well-thought-out regardless, and 2 weeks has to be a record for a game live service to be shut down. If I had not seen your video on it and someone mentioned this game to me would be thinking about how on earth is it named after an airliner that was caught in a serious tragedy and taken away from the world.
    Still back on track well thought out and your right Blizzard has always understood good character design. Obviously, Sony missed that memo...

  • @Dave.A.R
    @Dave.A.R 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Of course it sells games. That's one of the reasons Nintendo put special interest in Ocarina of Time's character designs. Not just Nintendo, that's why Sega kept redesigning Sonic to make him more appealing.

  • @LifeIsStrange225
    @LifeIsStrange225 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    nice to see someone understand why concord failed rather than saying the characters are too gay or something

    • @Keeki549
      @Keeki549 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That’s also why

    • @LifeIsStrange225
      @LifeIsStrange225 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@Keeki549 did you not watch the video? these characters are being compared to OW characters half the roster are gay overwatch

    • @FROEZOEN
      @FROEZOEN 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @LifeIsStrange225 typical LIS fan

    • @idontneedaname318
      @idontneedaname318 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Keeki549people won't stop thirsting over bg3 characters and as far as I can tell they're all bisexual

    • @ramenbomberdeluxe4958
      @ramenbomberdeluxe4958 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@FROEZOENoh no, someone having a point that doesn’t make them attack LGBT+ people opportunistically! Typical LIS fan right?
      Get out of here.

  • @mccoolfriend6818
    @mccoolfriend6818 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I see Widowmaker I click. I see Concord I need an exorcism

    • @enzopied3015
      @enzopied3015 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Gonna be coom and ectoplasm all over the place then

  • @TheeDeathCaster
    @TheeDeathCaster 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    With a more serious comment xd, I think another great example of character design is for the characters from Team Fortress 2. Tbh I was kind of surprised it wasn't brought up considering Overwatch and Team Fortress 2 were compared so heavily years ago.

  • @spectre9340
    @spectre9340 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    I'm a woman and since I was a kid, I dreaded the idea of being sexualized and objectified
    BUT as a gamer, I want to play cool and/or attractive characters
    Why would I be drawn to a character I barely want to look at?

    • @ArdaSReal
      @ArdaSReal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Characters have to look cool and unique, not necessarily sexy

    • @spectre9340
      @spectre9340 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@ArdaSReal that's what a lot of these companies don't understand
      Not every female character in Overwatch is sexy but they all have appeal
      There were ways to make the Concord characters look appealing but they didn't know how to achieve their "desexualization" mission while still having good character design

    • @Meatdude
      @Meatdude 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is the most bizarre comment I have seen, but to best there own I suppose

    • @marklieberman1527
      @marklieberman1527 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Meatdudeit makes sense

    • @lulu-vp2yc
      @lulu-vp2yc 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Meatdude what is bizarre about it

  • @dassemultor6940
    @dassemultor6940 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    "Mercy's design is incredible."
    Incredibly hot.

  • @kdz9581
    @kdz9581 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The script of this video is perfect, I seriously think that you deserve all the views you have. Thanks for the work you've put on it.

    • @DXFromYT
      @DXFromYT  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much!

  • @antonprokhorov6185
    @antonprokhorov6185 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    what I see is Concord characters are based on "deconstruction" - like, let's take an obvious design trait and will destroy it, stating "no, we have big characters as healers, small characters as tanks etc."
    Though I see two problems exactly from Art perspective, how these people might treat their own work
    1) Deconstruction is not about "Ok let's take something and just mess with it so it's something unusual what people don't get used to". Such approach is called Desconstruction for Dummies, all those graduates of specific schools known for that for game art, movie writing etc.
    The real Deconstruction is an ability by destroying old - to create new. And there's nothing new in such designs, it's too weak in terms of idea
    2) This also seems to be a Deconstruction Trap - the internal requirement to not design as the rest of the successful industry does. And such desire leads to not having ideas, cause the direction is defined not by some new thought, but rather by deep desire to not be like the rest. From that perspective, if they'd actually design something closer to Overwatch, which while being a copy, could still show some interesting concepts - there would be much more freedom in this copy-paste than what they claim as their own work of thought

  • @DawnOfTheOzz
    @DawnOfTheOzz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The worst character design was, I think, Lennox. That lizard man Yondu rip with a human face looking... thing. The very human face is off-putting enough against the green scaly skin with quills but then we get to his... hair? Quills? That odd looking Mohawk on top of his head which was accentuated by a tiny little man-bun at the back. That man-bun alone made my eyelids twitch with rage and fury.

  • @MrJohnReviews
    @MrJohnReviews 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Alternative Title - Why Character Design is EVERYTHING - The Overwatch Theorem
    Nice video man

  • @TakaCode
    @TakaCode 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    DX calmly and casually roasting Concord.
    Great work man😂😊

  • @mrz3062
    @mrz3062 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Games are meant to be an escape by transcending reality and depicting our fantasies. I don’t think Concord was successful in representing either.

    • @baskogitlog7276
      @baskogitlog7276 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You nailed it.

    • @jsmoothd654
      @jsmoothd654 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I actually disagree. We should not pigeonhole Video Games as a medium to be escapism. I think video games can serve more than just being fun things we do. That being said, I think Concord failed at being realistic.

    • @theunknowman12
      @theunknowman12 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@jsmoothd654while video games can be much more as its a fantastic story teller, i think most people play games just to forget their lives for a moments and have fun

  • @mark-jf5ik
    @mark-jf5ik 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    “Intestinal design” is such a perfect combination of words I never realized fit concord’s aesthetic