Heartstopper Bisexual Perfection
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2022
- Heartstopper you've seen as one of the cast ,you've seen me react to every episode of heartstopper. Now hear why i think Heartstopper is the best bisexual representation ever put to screen , this is why i think Hearstopper is Bisexual perfection.
We compare Hearstopper to the queer shows that came before it Skam, Druck , Young Royals and love victor and we reflect on how queer representation can have a positive and negative effect depending on how its depicted, I also talk about my bias being in the show and how the cultural relevance give a nuance that I will appreciate more then others.
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Like anyways love, peace and chicken grease I'll see you when you see me.
Also my bad druck is German I was getting confused with the other remake wtfock which is Belgium
Will have to check out all 3. Thanks 👍
Heartstopper has made me more comfortable with my bisexuality even at 38 and allowed me to find an amazing online queer community. Thank you for your part in it!
Well I'm just happy how confident it's making everyone 🙂
Same! I'm 38 and love this show. I identify with Nick's character so much because I never had feelings for a girl until the one time I did. It's so refreshing to see this on TV.
This!
Heartstopper honestly changed my life. It came out right at the height of when I was questioning my sexuality and it really helped me fully realize and embrace the fact that I’m bi. I’m in my late 20s and just figured it out this year, but I hope the show helps people of all ages come to acceptance with themselves
Me to it was such a lovely thing to be part of but the rest of the cast make it so heartwarming
So... as a cis gay man, I must say that the representation of our entire community is wonderful. From Elle to Charlie, Isaac to Nick, even Ben to Tara and Darcy, it is all so beautifully done. What has always bothered me about past bisexual "representation" in the media was, first what you said about promiscuity, but, second, that bisexual men will "dabble" with a dude but wind up with a woman. That is completely sad and misrepresents what I have seen locally with my own experience. (Granted, hearts do, indeed, get broken, but that is a human thing NOT a sexual orientation thing and sweeps across the spectrum) I'm almost 60 and truly wish I had this when I was Nick and Charlie's age. So proud it's out here for this generation.
Yeah I know 2 other bi guys and like myself their all in long term relationships one with a guy the other with a girl, but I like how this shows a positivity to sexuality and focuses on the emotional connection before the physical, making it so much more accessible for all ages.
I remember be told being bisexual was greedy and I wanted the best of both worlds. I hope that HS allows people to feel more expressive and confident in who they are. 💕
I think you hit the nail on the head. Nick's presentation was perfect for bi rep. I'm bi/pan and its SO frustrating to see bisexuality always in the context of cheating, or completely ignored, even by the bi character. But this was just, perfect. His realisation that he also likes guys was perfect. Not having to use people to test the waters and see if he likes this or that was so refreshing.
Heartstopper has done what so many queer stories fail to do, and its told the story in a way that's pretty flawless.
Yeah I found it very refreshing and I'm so happy I got to be apart of it
I don't think you are wrong on this. I have some friends who are bi and they really loved how well Nick and bisexuality were portrayed. It really helps people be seen.
100%. I've watched the show... probably more than 20 times in the past couple of weeks since discovering it, and it took a good while for me to realize what was hitting me SO hard about it. Heartstopper kicked off some serious identity reckoning for me, in that I've known I'm bisexual for a long time, but never quite felt like that was really actually an okay, valid thing that is legitimately part of the queer community. Intellectually, sure, but emotionally? Nah.The narrative's portrayal of Nick's journey is just so profound and so different from anything else on that point, and it's truly groundbreaking. I'm in my mid thirties, and my only wish is that this show could have been made a couple of decades ago.
I agree with you. I’ve seen bisexual characters on Helluva Boss, and The Owl House (which I recommend watching if you haven’t seen them, and do reaction videos of them if you’d like. They’re a lot of fun.) but they weren’t exactly characters that I related to, and most of them were female characters. Nick Nelson was a character that I related to the most because I’ve been where’s he at. I was him. Heck, I even watched Pirates Of The Caribbean many times when I was in Middle School like he did, which might’ve been my bisexual awakening. Either that or Tomb Raider, or Casino Royale, or Troy. There’s were a lot of moments that hinted towards my sexuality when I was a kid. Anyway, like Charlie Spring, I too felt really connected to Nick. And I’m really glad that Nick/Kit is someone that I really look up to. He gave me a lot of courage to face some feelings that I repressed when I was a teenager, and he helped heal my 17/18 year old self. Although I still have a long way to go to find happiness again, this was a great start.
I'm very happy the show and the stories shown could help with that also I reacted to the first owl house episode on my channel I really loved it but not sure if I'll continue reactions to it as it didn't really get the views for the time spent editing unfortunately
@@Courtney-Jai I love Owl House and Amphibia. They’re my favorite Disney channel shows that came out the last few years. I’ve been an anime fan throughout my life, and these two shows really pleased my anime nerd self. I highly recommend watching Hazbin Hotel, and Helluva Boss if you haven’t seen them yet. They’re both a lot of fun. Hazbin Hotel is like an R-Rated Nightmare Before Christmas while Helluva Boss is like an R-Rated Beetlejuice. They have a great story, great characters, great musical numbers, great voice actors, heck even the most recent episode had Johnathan Freeman (Jafar) in it.
@@craigharvey-gurr337 that's sounds awesome I'll give them a watch
Now someone has recently informed me Even is Pansexual but pansexuals and bisexuals pretty much face the same stereotypes if not worse. So hopefully all the pansexuals can agree to that although the character is great the starting point leans into stereotypes.
I certainly see how Even leaving his relationship with Sonja could be read as a negative stereotype, but I definitely don’t think that was Julie’s intention.
@@tallactordude it's less the fact he leaves his girlfriend and more the fact he cheats first , that is negative the leaving his partner leans into another stereotype of bi/pansexuals not being able to stay in a committed relationship
@@Courtney-Jai I still don’t think that Julie was trying to say that bisexual people are incapable of commitment. And there is every indication that the relationship between Isak and Even ends up being a lasting one. (The straight folks in the show aren’t all that great at commitment, either.) Still, I certainly get your point. Even certainly could’ve handled things better. If he had broken up with his girlfriend before getting together with Isak, his actions would have been less problematic.
@@tallactordude I agree with you! It's in all the skam versions. It's teenagers who do alot of sleeping around and cheating not only the bisexual/pansexual. If you watch the french version you get a little more explaining about the manic and I think its more that why he cheated than the bisexual thing (not that all manic people cheat but in this case he met his soulmate and went manic because of all the feelings). They are in a commited relationship after that in both versions.
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I love this scene in scam france. It's when Lucas and Eliott already living together. One of Lucas Friends (the one he is talking too) cheated on his girlfriend. They have a concersation about bisexual people and cheating. th-cam.com/video/BS36MdSCeiA/w-d-xo.html
Yeah we are seen we are felt in heartstopper and we are not portrayed as liar's or cheaters. We are just the same as everyone else trying to to live our lives trying to find that person to walk the journey with. Just we face more rejections and stereotypes from all sides.
I hope you keep doing what you are doing representing us, them and everyone in between.
It is absolutely despicable that people will assume being bisexual equates to being untrustworthy. Love is love, people!! You can't help who you like or love, it's not a choice! And when people say that if you're bisexual you could go the "easy route" and date people of the opposite sex just so they can fit you into their heteronormative world gets me just as irate, for the very same reasons. Why can't people just let each other live their lives? How does it affect you what someone else is doing??? Never understood this, and never will.
I also have the "Queer was always here" shirt. It finally arrived on Tuesday. It was WAY to white and pristine for my liking so I covered the image with plastic and the tie-dye it the bisexual colors. Wore it yesterday and loved it! My dad and brother loved it too.
Nice gotta love the creativity
I totally agree with you. It is British in every way, the way we react, our schools run and even down to our peculiar weather. I love the way it is subtle in introducing queer in the different characters and it is not brazen in your face from the beginning and giving us the very believable situations.
This sounds ridiculous, but Heartstopper was actually my bi awakening at 46 yrs old. I’m a cis female who had crushes on boys all through school until one day I developed a massage crush on a girl when I was 18. Since then, I’ve been attracted to or had crushes on both men and women over the years, though I’ve only been in relationships with men. There was no bisexual representation or acceptance in my circles 20 yrs ago. It was either “we’re all a little gay aren’t we?” or it was just “experimenting.” My ignorance led me to not even take myself seriously, and I thought I was just promiscuous. So sad. Nick’s bisexual journey in Heartstopper is what made me realize the truth about myself all these years later, and more importantly, to understand and accept myself without shame or negative stereotypes. The show and channels like this are changing lives without a doubt. So grateful to you!
I could agree more and your not the first person to say this I had a person in their 60s say the same thing I think it'd a real game changer when it comes to how people view sexuality.
Even in Skam is actually Pan, but since a lot of people don't know what that is, they might assume he's Bi. I really love how they don't seem to make any big deal about the fact that he was dating a girl, and now he likes a boy. Literally not one person in the show ever comments on it or asks him about it. It just is what it is. And I think this is a great representation of Love is Love. :)
I think its a nice story but it's still leans into the negative stereotypes unfortunately but him cheating on his girlfriend. That's why I appreciate heartstopper its just a boy falling for a boy without unwarranted victims. I also found out he was pansexual literally just after I released the video but unfortunately pansexuals face the same stereotypes if not more so the point is still relevant.
Love it! Thank you Courtney-Jai 😊
Also, Charlie is my favorite character and my favorite moment is when Nick walked off the rugby field and took charlie to the corridor to express himself to Charlie
I also appreciate those local culture references that give the show such a UK touch. ☺
As a Venezuelan-Canadian fan living in Canada, those nuances don't feel so foreign for some reason.
Nick's bisexuality has clarified a lot of my notion of being bisexual, and I'm gay.
Thats really cool I'm glad it could help being part of the show. I just love how everything is done in simplicity. No over complicated plots its just normal life.
Which is the charm behind the show: It breaks so many TV stereotypes - finally!!
Who's your favourite heartstopper character , what's your favourite heartstopper moment and did you feel this represented you well as a queer person.
darcy and charlie
Can't choose between my children! I relate most to Tao but would take a bullet for Charlie. ❤️ them all. My favorite moment is the talk and kiss in the arcade. It's just so healthy.
tori, toby and nick nelson
when nick nelson started have feeling on charlie
Nick is my favourite because I just love his story. I think it was done in such a beautiful way and I really felt for his character. Hard to choose just one Heartstopper moment though. Possibly when he wants to hold Charlie's hand followed by the long hug.
I love Charlie, he's so cute but definitely my favourite character is Nick Nelson 😍
My favourite moment is the "I believe you Nick" ep8 in the corridor. This scene gives me "butterflies" every time I watch it over and over again 🤭💕
Thank you very much for this Jai! Definitely as a mexican bisexual leaving in the UK I agree heartstopper managed to give a sense of being normal and that it is ok to feel that way. I have to say that the cultural differences between my country and the UK has make it me difficult still to sometimes not feel inadequate or as a mistake but hopefully working on it I will be able to feel better a little bit more everytime :)
Thanks for sharing your experience, seriously it means a lot to people like me! All my best wishes
Dear Courtney-Jay,
thank you so much for this video (well, for all your videos actually!). Heartstopper really made me make up with my being bisexual: I’m 43, I’m also a mother, and I always felt “weird” about my bisexuality, even because once I was told by this lesbian girl I was so in love with that “bisexual are the worst”. Then I discovered Heartstopper and Nick’s character and suddenly everything felt “normal” and ok… It really helped me to feel there’s nothing wrong in me, and I couldn’t be more grateful to the series or to you for that! ♥
One thing I always like to say bisexuality isn't a personality its a sexuality so it's not a life style , you can't put every bisexual in a box and expect them all to be the same person.
@@Courtney-Jai you're so right!! It's the same for every sexual orientation! That's why I was so surprised and so overwhelmed when this girl (openly and exclusively gay) told me that bisexual are the worst, like it's only right to chose between men and women and everything in the middle is just wrong... That's way HS, as your videos, are so important, because they remind us that every sexuality is OK! ❤
I am so glad Heartstopper introduced me to your channel because you are a genuinely sweet person and it shows. I would have missed out on your videos which are now something I can look forward to just cuz I'm interested in your input.
Well it's great to meet all the new people on my channel I've got some great videos planned
You criticize media for misrepresenting us bisexuals as promiscuous... and then complain that it's "getting hot in here" and start stripping down? 😂🤣 I am crying laughing and spitting out my cucumber.
No that's not a euphemism I just happened to be snacking on a literal cucumber (aka courgette 🥒).
Also I know you were having a horrible heat wave in the UK when this video was made so it's believable that your jacket was a fashion choice that turned out to be too uncomfortably warm but... 🔥🧥 Your timing is so en pointe. Bravo. 👌😅 I hope my sophomoric sense of humor doesn't detract from your bi-positive message which is so powerful and so needed! 💖💜💙
This means a lot to you Courtney. You showed a lot of enthusiasm in your conversation. You got to get what you needed in order to feel fulfilled. Cherish all of that.
Not Courtney-Jai looking absolutely stunning in the Varsity/High School Jock Jacket.
I did watch Heartstopper upon your suggestion and I really really loved it. It was just so so sweet, one of the best series I've watched.
Its really fantastic kit and joe were exceptional such a lovely thing to be apart of
@@Courtney-Jai And you're right, its very British in its make and feel and I guess a lovely series for queer teens to watch. There are a lot of positive vibes throughout the series. And yes, I do think you're one of the best positive role models for being bisexual. Your youtube videos have the same feel-good vibes as Heartstopper !
@@adityasengupta345 thank you thats really made my morning
Courtney, I’ve told you before, Nick’sjourney in HS helped me come to terms with my own bisexuality in my 70s. The sweetness and authenticity made it acceptable.
I totally agree. I came out as bisexual later in life
Just scanned the comments to see if you had to argue with anyone lol
Nope apparently this connected with alot of people which makes me happy there's a couple of things I wish I had worded differently but I'm a little rusty when it comes to making videos
I completely agree with you. I am Bi/Pan and Heartstopper is the best representation I've seen that I wish I had when I was younger.
If you are interested in watching some more pretty good to excellent Bi/Pan representation Asian BLs have some really good shows. The best representation recommendation is Bad Buddy. It's basically a RomCom Romeo and Juliet with 2 guys from Thailand and is available on TH-cam. If you fill out a form on the website you can react to the whole show without doing cuts.
Other shows that have Bi/Pan characters I really enjoyed (pre-warning not all of these are as healthy as Bad Buddy or Heartstopper but they are good shows): Jae Young in Semantic Error, Ae in Love By Chance, Gav & Pearl in Gameboys, Type in TharnType S1&2 [toxic warning], Leon in Don't Say No [spinoff of TharnType S2], Shu Yi in We Best Love S1&2, Neo in 3 Will Be Free [polyamorous], Pete & Kitty Dark Blue Kiss [bl sequel to Kiss Me Again & Kiss the series], Tiffy in Lovely Writer, Aoki in My Love Mix Up, and many more.
I really love Heartstopper and the wonderful fluffy absolutely not toxic representation of the queer community.
Thanks for the tip. After being spoilt by Heartstopper bliss I've found myself only wanting to watch shows with strong LGBTQ representation. 😍💖💜💙 I will see if I can find where to watch it.
@@danakchampion Your very welcome. You can find Bad Buddy at the TH-cam Channel of GMMTV. 👍 If you are okay with Thai shows (with eng. Subs) you really can find a few amazing queer shows at this channel. 💜😏
Heartstopper have the bad and the good exemples of bissexual guys, Ben and Nick haha
Yeah I think one shows a lack of acceptance and the other embracing it
Wow Courtney-Jai, your hair just gets shorter and shorter. But it looks great and you're as cute as ever! 😍
So excited to see your new video! 👏🏽
I am not bi, so I can not really speak about the accuracy,, but I have seen that cheating is still a thing that is often linked to bisexuality/pansexuality and that really needs to stop.
Oh and, by the way, just because it's one of my all time faves, Druck is set in Germany not Belgium.
Yeah I realised this I had brain lapse and got druck and wtfock mixed up but I also agree I hate how the stereotype exists.
I don't why A person's progression development and realization. Starting with have straight relationship. Then discovering that they may also be attraction to someone of their own sex. Either occasionally or exclusivity can be viewed as a person's evolution and not judge for stages they go thru and mistakes they may make along the way. That is my life story Courtney and I'm sticking to it. Touche'
I'm sad that there's no link in the description to a place where I can buy that dino shirt 🦕
Unfortunately it was a limited edition thing all thr money for then went to charity
Just so you know, "What makes you gay?" is perhaps the #1 question for gay persons, not just bi- or trans-. Don't forget, it's a question Nick asks of Charlie in Ep.6, at about the 5:30 mark. It's a question that's asked regardless of one's difference from the perceived "average" human experience. I even get asked "How did you know you might be a musician?", and I might ask you "How did you know you wanted to be a YTuber?" It's just who we are. Full stop. For all those ridiculous, demeaning, paternalistic questions of identity.
Does anyone else find being bisexual mentally draining. I feel I am destined to always cheat on someone , a man or a woman. Am 67 years old and still as fu**ING confused as when I was 18. I so wish I could just pick a team and stick with it.
@Courtney-Jai When we got a live stream with you for just chatting?
Couldn't agree more 👏 😊🥳 great video as always
Very happy you enjoyed it
I hope they will go further into female bisexuality in season 3 (we got introduced to a female bi character)
Ooooi, very interesting. I'm still watching, so I don't wanna know who, but more diversity and representation is always a good thing
@@Courtney-Jai ah I assumed you binge watched it as well 😂 it's briefly mentioned, you'll see
I love that your name is victory and triumph. ❤💜💙
Thats pretty cool
@@Courtney-Jai I'm assuming you already knew that Jai is Sanskrit 🙏
Omg i just saw you in the movie as a youtuber and i just realised i know you from about like 3 years ago
Haha yeah thats me and that's really cool
you are speaking facts Courtney.
My respects and condolences over the death of the Queen. It doesn't matter if you are a monarchist or not, longevity and history means that it has to matter to some degree. My condolences to you and the citizens of the UK and the Commonwealth.
Oh and I came out to my mom but she did not think that bi is a thing and she got very mad at me so can you help with that thank you
I totally agree with you
Great video. Always 👍🏻 Courtney ❤️
I thought that was you in that video!!!
Agree 1000000%
Have you ever heard of the characters called Olli and Christian from the show Verbotene Liebe?
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Looking cute af in that jacket Courtney! 🥰🏳️🌈💋
Thank you
Hey can you help me because at school I came out as bi and then I told some people that I do karate and not w they told other people that I do karate and that I am bi and now at school people call me the girl that dose karate and that is bi oh and can you lep me come to my older bo her as well so can you help me with those to thing and how to stop the people that are telling other people and how to come out to my Bother text me as fast as you can thank you I I he your vids
So unfortunately it's probably somthing you can't stop but you can embrace I personally think its awesome that a. Your bi and b. You do karate I used to do tang soo do myself and i was almost a black belt but maybe say to them the guy from heartstopper thinks your cool 😎
Good video, but I have to add that gay and trans people are often questioned about why they are who they are. Happens all the time. I'm a gay man, and in the last few years--as trans people have become more visible--quite a few straight people have felt it necessary to ask me why trans people are the way they are. Or they just simply say, "I don't understand it," to which I have replied, "It's not up to you to understand it. Just mind your business and let people be." And I have a number of trans friends who are constantly questioned by their own friends, family, acquaintances and even strangers. People are curious, but they can also be rude. When I came out and talked about relationships, I can't tell you how many people I knew who would say things like, "Well, who's the man and who's the woman? How do you figure that out?" I usually just said, "That's not how it works."
Yeah it was poor wording what I was meant to say was being questioned within the lgbtq+ being bisexual /pansexual gets constantly questioned as its almost the black sheep in the group. Biearsure is a big problem.
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To Courtney (and everyone else in the comments), if you are looking for amazing bisexual rep, I would HIGHLY recommend checking out Shadowhunters. Magnus Bane is my BI KING. 👑 ✨🥰
Unfortunately I liked the movies hated the series came across really cheap and tacky , way to much teen drama for me.
@@Courtney-Jai Whaaaaaat? 🤯
The movie was TRASH. They only made one and then they quit, THAT’S how bad it was. The acting was terrible across the board, and Magnus was barely in it!
The show is a MILLION times better. If you think it only had “teen drama”, you must not have made it very far into the series at all. What a shame..
@@DoubleBlack2.0 just because I didn't like it doesn't mean its bad I just didnt enjoy it my sister likes it , I tend to find that with alot of shows reminded me of vampire diaries and teen wolf. I didn't make it that far through it because it just didn't connect with me. I prefer shows like that to be alot more adult true blood was a good one.
But I'll give it a second chance just for you
@@Courtney-Jai Awww. I mean, you don’t have to if you don’t want to. But I’m telling you, it definitely gets better as it goes on. And once the Malec (Magnus/Alec) love story begins? You’ll be hooked on *them*, at the very least. 😍
Promiscuity is not a proper concept since it is hard to define except in relative terms.
You talk really too fast 😂 i am french and I read subtitles but it’s still difficult for me. Thank you for sharing, love your work, love Heartstopper So much, can.t stop watching it. But I’m beggin you, please slow down 😅
I'm sorry I used to speak alot faster so this is me slowed down lol im happy you liked the show and my work
hiiiii 🫶🏻
Can you please react to the BL drama series - Kinnporsche
It's such a good series!
Oh god my comment came out as you would say RUbbish With missing words and other embarrassing mistakes . Just when my ego was kicking in and trying to sound profound .hehehe Shame on me.
You do you
Hey ❤️
Hi 👋
@@Courtney-Jai hi
you are BARELY in the show. you just have couple of minutes on a computer screen
Funny Alice thought the few minute were really important infact she asked me to be in the show , how many heartstopper episodes have you been in. 😉
@@Courtney-Jai Hopefully this commenter just means, "We want to see more of you!" I do hope they continue to include you as Nick's bisexuality Sensei in coming seasons! 🤟
Nick Nelson fan club we are here! 🔥🙌🔥 In my opinion, he's the perfect bisexual representation and, as @courtney_jai did with him, he will help lot of people to be confident to came out as bisexual people. 🥰🥰
💯% 👍 Also let's not forget what an amazing bi-positive representation Courtney-Jai himself provides on the show! Hearing him speak with vulnerability and confidence in the clips that Nick watches, I thought "I could use that kind of support on my journey" and came here to find him. And a strong community here! 💪💖💜💙
Hiii.
I ve messaged you on insta .
I need your help pleaase.
Thanks