@@mikehipperson a driver at the nbr said that even they get a Hyundai ionic 5n to get too hot in less than two laps. And they do not drive to the limit. I was inside. Super fast but not material killing fast as they could.
@@Nordlicht05 to be fair, if you drive on the limit, not many cars last 2 laps on NBR. I do not like Hyundai, but 5N is really good and very usable as sports car even tho it is EV. Plus I am sure, that it would decimate time of this MG nonsense in the video.
@@pistonfury I have got one and it is a basically a hatchback (my last car was a Golf) and it’s the same concept only everything has got a little bit bigger (probably due to safety, bigger crumple zones. Etc). It’s not just taller like a crossover, it’s the same proportion just 5% bigger in every direction than a Golf for example.
lets take a look at the UK auto industry.. Rolls Royce = German Bentley = German Jaguar = Indian Land Rover = Indian Aston Martin = Canadian Mini = German Lotus = China MG = China TVR = Russian McLaren = UAE
They're a great duo those 2 - you get banter, car talk, and some fun challenges each time. In a world without the trio now, they're an easy watch and I hope they develop on that as time goes on.
Don´t know, what happens with the drawing at 0:37, maybe missing old times with the three together, like million people round the globe too? For me, Ben will always be the only one, the true STIG!
and doing better than ever. SAIC seem to actually understand how to treat legacy brands like Geely. Americans owning foreign brands has been disastrous.
I have got an MG4 and it’s a fab car, quicker than anything petrol I have ever owned and super practical for the family. No reliability or build quality issues, it’s actually exceptional value! I couldn’t care less if it’s Chinese, so is the iPhone and many other things that work fine.
noahderrington5156 You EV guys only talk about 0-… everything , drinking tea , taking a dump etc . A TRACK HAS CORNERS ASWELL . But I’ll quess you EV guys don’t understand corners or what the Nurburgring is
@@noahderrington5156 I've worked in the repair industry, iPhones work well as long as Apple says, then they're paperweights. The same could happen with your superconnected car.
@@noahderrington5156 If it's comparable to an iPhone, I would ask the brand what is the life expectancy of the wheeled thing, as it will become a paperweight when that time comes. I worked in the repair industry and Apple is not the best example for anything really.
I get why people dont think its an MG but what would you rather?! That the MG moniker didnt exist at all? MG to the new generation are building cars at decent prices (relatively speaking) and in the case of the Cyberster to a decent quality point too. Just look at the new up and coming 'AUDI' brand with its chinese partnership, or Jaguars rebranding and Lotus too. Even Ford is a VW these days. Badges aint gonna be anything than glorified Chinese boxes in time. Its just the way of the world.
As a side note, Knockhill is a fantastic place for spectating: close to the track, kerb riding great to see in person. BTCC 2024 was my first ever visit and those cars were spectacular! Lovely surroundings (Dunfermline/Queensferry), lovely people. A great place to visit, thoroughly recommended❤
i think you're good enough and well enough known to just be 'Ben Collins' these days, no need for the constant 'Used to be the stig' or 'top gear' name drop on every video and every youtuber channel you cameo on
I saw one in the metal for the first time last weekend and it's definitely on my short list to replace one of my cars, especially as I think prices will be falling
The only time that ive seen someone say something positive about MG is from a sponsorship. Ive driven some of their cars. Genuinely worst vehicles that ive ever driven, in every way. Still holds the achievement of "the only motor vehicles to make me angry"
@Neojhun no, not the warning systems. Every part of the car was just terrible. Engine and gearboxes both felt like something 40 years old that couldn't talk with each other or even its own computer. I live in a regional area with some somewhat rough roads. Driving around in an MG for work was the one and only time a cars suspension was so bad that it gave me a headache. I drove other company vehicles (VW polo, Toyota Yaris, both 10+ yrs old) and they were better in every way. This was a 2021 model mg I did not feel safe driving that vehicle. They are coffins.
Ben and Mike, you guys need to make Drivetribe the New Top Gear / Grand Tour . You both are a perfect match, your chemistry t9gether is priceless. And at times bloody hilarious... You just need a couple of other presenters, content contributors and you can start up the Drivetribe TV era. Continuing the TH-cam stuff alongside. You two are brilliant. Im 55 and have watched every UK Top Gear episode and Grand Tour episodes literally 100's of times. Please, honestly Please team up regularly as Id watch you guys growing grass.. Mark Australia
Great video as always, but just couldn’t feel it watching the noiseless EV round Knockhill. I’m sure it’s a fine and fast car, but it was very much like watching a lap with the sound off, you just don’t get the feeling of the power.
Hoping people have realised by now that EVs can be just as fun as ICE-cars, just in a different way. A small, nippy EV on a tight, curvy back road - if that does not put a smile on your face, than I don't know what will...
Fun lap :-) Id have loved to have seen Ben do a best of 5 lap time just quietly, Interestingly enough I recently had the use of an MG3 Excite 1.5 lt auto with 8000 km on the clock and over 3 weeks I put another 1200k on the thing. I know its bottom of the range but 4 speed auto kinda let it down, fit n finish wasnt the best, NVH was about what my old my00 Accent was and it had squeaks and rattles. The thing looks the goods alright but closer scrutiny was disappointing the the 24k price tag, I know Morris Garage was quirky back in the day but Mings Garage really hasn't delivered.
Not impressed......May as well be talking about disposable razors. I bet these cars lose half value the second they're driven off the lot and don't even think about running the heater/defroster in winter if you want to make it home. There is a time and a place for electric but i never want my fun limited to the range of any battery.
I'm impressed with the Cyberster.. it's the most unique new electric car out there. The mg4 is an old platform now. My company car is a leaf... the battery is dreadful. It is very nippy though. Still hate it. 😂
What is the most British of the remaining brands ... Morgan is probably the most, Jaguar, MG, Aston Martin, Bentley, Rover, Lotus. Mini. McLaren is a newer brand to me but maybe it's the one?
All these comments about MG being Chinese. Seriously change the record. No one cares about this anymore except old men who like to talk about the good old days tinkering with their mgbs. Would you have preferred this iconic brand go to the wall or even worse end up like jaguar?
The push to electric vehicles is dangerous and is going to backfire. 😢 I know this is something that is happening above you guys, and there is a push to encourage electric vehicles from your superiors, but being Automotive Journalists, you really should know better.
ABSOLUTELY. TOTALLY AGREE. Richard Hammond was right when he said "There's GOT to be OTHER options. Ev's CAN'T be the ONLY option. It WON'T work. How VERY true.
Another fun video mates! Well done but to the ones crying "it's too quiet " or " it has no soul" have y'all driven any ICE car made in the last 15 years? Unless you've bodged the exhaust they are super quiet and due to the steering wheel and brakes being fly by wire, they lack any feel and are lifeless. No connections to the road.. Give me the silent ev that drags 99.9% of every ICE car it meets and the Rozziers won't hear coming.
That's not actually Ben Collins... It's Stig in a Ben Collins costume.
Some may say...
Hahaha 😂 👍 I do agree
Which Stig?😅
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😉
That's gold
So glad Ben is a regular feature on Drivetribe now.
Just makes sense.
Too bad the other guy is still around eh.
Stretching the definition of hot hatch 😅
The word 'family' was deleted, so you can put it back inbetween the 2 h's.
It only gets hot when the battery overheats!
Yep it has Hyper Hatch power output.
@@mikehipperson a driver at the nbr said that even they get a Hyundai ionic 5n to get too hot in less than two laps. And they do not drive to the limit. I was inside. Super fast but not material killing fast as they could.
@@Nordlicht05 to be fair, if you drive on the limit, not many cars last 2 laps on NBR. I do not like Hyundai, but 5N is really good and very usable as sports car even tho it is EV.
Plus I am sure, that it would decimate time of this MG nonsense in the video.
He finally did it! Drove a full lap around a random circuit faster than Mike Fernie in a hatchback. Unbelievable!
that thing is not a hot hatch!!! it's a SUV!!!
My very first thought aswell!
Isn't it a crossover?
@@pistonfury I have got one and it is a basically a hatchback (my last car was a Golf) and it’s the same concept only everything has got a little bit bigger (probably due to safety, bigger crumple zones. Etc). It’s not just taller like a crossover, it’s the same proportion just 5% bigger in every direction than a Golf for example.
Not really an MG though is it? It's a SAIC.
SAIC make parts for Toyota, BMW and Hyundai.
SAIC are a big company not sure why people arent happy MG still alive. Whose fault is it British government couldn't be arsed @@davcleric4974
@@davcleric4974 I'm sure they're great parts too.
@@davcleric4974 I understand they're competent, just an observation in branding; it all kinda reminds me of when Daewoo bought ✨ Chevrolet ✨
Nice enough but how much MG is left with the non UK owners... just the Badge ??
Yessssssssssssssss
None. It is 100% owned by the Chinese communist party under "SAIC".
Who cares your auto industry is gone and dusted. Chinese government cashed in.
lets take a look at the UK auto industry..
Rolls Royce = German
Bentley = German
Jaguar = Indian
Land Rover = Indian
Aston Martin = Canadian
Mini = German
Lotus = China
MG = China
TVR = Russian
McLaren = UAE
Just the entire Design studio in London. Not just the badge but the entire body design.
Mr. Collins sitting there with the patience of an absolute saint to play along with Mike's pedantry lol
Ben looked ready to have had a nap
"I've raced here before mike"🤣
That little tribute to the three guys in Bens diary was cute
Well spotted 😅😅😅
> Car enthusiast channel
> MG sponsorship
maaaaate
And an electric milk float
too reliable to be a real mg 😅
"I've raced it before Mike" lol
+15 Social Credit
😂
I can only assume that's what they were going for.
They're a great duo those 2 - you get banter, car talk, and some fun challenges each time. In a world without the trio now, they're an easy watch and I hope they develop on that as time goes on.
4:25 The Stig humoring Mike. You can't be a racing driver without this level of control people.
Don´t know, what happens with the drawing at 0:37, maybe missing old times with the three together, like million people round the globe too? For me, Ben will always be the only one, the true STIG!
“I’ve raced here before Mike” Mike carries on unphased 😂
Question, is MG still owned by the Chinese?
Yes. SAIC in fact.
The ONLY reason they still exist for the last few years.
and doing better than ever. SAIC seem to actually understand how to treat legacy brands like Geely. Americans owning foreign brands has been disastrous.
Owned by the Chinese government
@@Neojhun MGs have a bad reputation nowadays, they only sell because they're cheap EVs
I would feel ashamed of talking of the current MG as something other than a very big chinese tablet with wheels.
I have got an MG4 and it’s a fab car, quicker than anything petrol I have ever owned and super practical for the family. No reliability or build quality issues, it’s actually exceptional value! I couldn’t care less if it’s Chinese, so is the iPhone and many other things that work fine.
My 3 hybrid is a very quick tablet on wheels.
noahderrington5156 You EV guys only talk about 0-… everything , drinking tea , taking a dump etc . A TRACK HAS CORNERS ASWELL . But I’ll quess you EV guys don’t understand corners or what the Nurburgring is
@@noahderrington5156 I've worked in the repair industry, iPhones work well as long as Apple says, then they're paperweights.
The same could happen with your superconnected car.
@@noahderrington5156 If it's comparable to an iPhone, I would ask the brand what is the life expectancy of the wheeled thing, as it will become a paperweight when that time comes.
I worked in the repair industry and Apple is not the best example for anything really.
Sponsored?
Entirely.
Haha Mike giving Ben tips on the sighting lap, great stuff
You're supposed to say "across the line."
honestly i really dislike MG but that little yellow rocket quite impressed me
That’s precisely what this sponsorship is trying to make you feel 👍🏻
Was a lot of fun sending the Cyberster round Knock Hill 😎
haha ben's raised eyebrow as mike is trying to tell him the racing line
I get why people dont think its an MG but what would you rather?! That the MG moniker didnt exist at all?
MG to the new generation are building cars at decent prices (relatively speaking) and in the case of the Cyberster to a decent quality point too.
Just look at the new up and coming 'AUDI' brand with its chinese partnership, or Jaguars rebranding and Lotus too. Even Ford is a VW these days.
Badges aint gonna be anything than glorified Chinese boxes in time. Its just the way of the world.
I like Ben's style of sketching/drawing, reminds me of Japanese art
That’s a bit too big to be considered a hot hatch imo
The thumbnail - Did he do it ?
The title - He did it.
Both MG’s are quite good looking and seemingly perform very well.! 😊
i set a 44sec (43sec) lap record around knockhill, in assetto corsa, in a ferrari F1 car :P
Ngl, you got me in the first half 😂
As a side note, Knockhill is a fantastic place for spectating: close to the track, kerb riding great to see in person.
BTCC 2024 was my first ever visit and those cars were spectacular!
Lovely surroundings (Dunfermline/Queensferry), lovely people.
A great place to visit, thoroughly recommended❤
ben has become such a natural on camera
i think you're good enough and well enough known to just be 'Ben Collins' these days, no need for the constant 'Used to be the stig' or 'top gear' name drop on every video and every youtuber channel you cameo on
I love Scotland, you know, the Highland mountain range used to be part of the Appalachia mountains when the continents were together
"MG"
Still awesome regardless to owns it. To the point using the XPower sub brand is now very applicable.
morgans garage, bravarian garage now maos garage 😂
Let’s be honest mg died a long time ago
Most car companies have .
The music of this video has probably been the best ever from drivetribe... Love it!
It's not the Stig. It's the Stig's talkative cousin.
Have you forgotten about Littleferry in Sutherland. That's a race track further north!
I saw one in the metal for the first time last weekend and it's definitely on my short list to replace one of my cars, especially as I think prices will be falling
Judging by the thumbnail, he has successfully performed a Irohazaka jump.
It’s the Stig’s Scottish cousin!
👏👏🤘😆
Well done, Mike and Ben.
I thought this vid was going to have a car driving upside down with that title.
Love that Mike is wearing a San Diego Padres baseball cap.
Mikes taste in cars is always so bizarre
Mike's personality becoming slightly more bubbly, just like the XPower's brake fluid.
Ben's face during Mike's coaching session was perfect. Laughed my arse off.
The only time that ive seen someone say something positive about MG is from a sponsorship. Ive driven some of their cars. Genuinely worst vehicles that ive ever driven, in every way. Still holds the achievement of "the only motor vehicles to make me angry"
Was it the Safety Warning systems? Those should be able to disabled easily with shortcuts now.
@Neojhun no, not the warning systems. Every part of the car was just terrible. Engine and gearboxes both felt like something 40 years old that couldn't talk with each other or even its own computer.
I live in a regional area with some somewhat rough roads. Driving around in an MG for work was the one and only time a cars suspension was so bad that it gave me a headache. I drove other company vehicles (VW polo, Toyota Yaris, both 10+ yrs old) and they were better in every way.
This was a 2021 model mg
I did not feel safe driving that vehicle. They are coffins.
@@AH-64Delta i had a rental MG3. felt flimsier than a 90s hyundai excel
@@AH-64Delta Electric MGs could be better if engine and gearboxes are problems. MG 4 are everywhere and they feel lilke any other EVs.
Mike giving the Stig tips. Awesome. 😂
0:26
Opportunity for "some say..." joke
An Ioniq 5N might be av lot more fun. The new Model 3 performance might also be great.
Ben and Mike, you guys need to make Drivetribe the New Top Gear / Grand Tour .
You both are a perfect match, your chemistry t9gether is priceless. And at times bloody hilarious...
You just need a couple of other presenters, content contributors and you can start up the Drivetribe TV era. Continuing the TH-cam stuff alongside.
You two are brilliant.
Im 55 and have watched every UK Top Gear episode and Grand Tour episodes literally 100's of times.
Please, honestly Please team up regularly as Id watch you guys growing grass..
Mark Australia
Yo that hat is sick!! Let's go San Diego!
4wd and 500hp and it only did a 59.950 that’s mega disappointing.
But weighs nearly 2 tons
@ still disappointing. Was expecting mid 50
well done finding a dry day at Knockhill
The MSU have just banned ev's from track days and motorsport days due to marshals not being able to deal with fires and high voltages
Great video as always, but just couldn’t feel it watching the noiseless EV round Knockhill. I’m sure it’s a fine and fast car, but it was very much like watching a lap with the sound off, you just don’t get the feeling of the power.
Teaching Ben about racing lines was hilarious! :D
Cyberster is one of the worst names I have ever heard.
Hoping people have realised by now that EVs can be just as fun as ICE-cars, just in a different way. A small, nippy EV on a tight, curvy back road - if that does not put a smile on your face, than I don't know what will...
For once the music is not annoying, nothing to hear when it´s a EV...
That's an intense thumbnail. Go Ben, go!
the stig and MG a perfect combo
Background music was necessary because EVs don't bring their own soundtrack🤣
High 59 secs is walking pace compared to Andy forrest sub 47 secs in a road going car
Some say his suit is actually an exoskeleton...
For an MG it doesn't look to bad. It could be a winner
Nice Bremont Ben!
Fun lap :-)
Id have loved to have seen Ben do a best of 5 lap time just quietly, Interestingly enough I recently had the use of an MG3 Excite 1.5 lt auto with 8000 km on the clock and over 3 weeks I put another 1200k on the thing.
I know its bottom of the range but 4 speed auto kinda let it down, fit n finish wasnt the best, NVH was about what my old my00 Accent was and it had squeaks and rattles.
The thing looks the goods alright but closer scrutiny was disappointing the the 24k price tag, I know Morris Garage was quirky back in the day but Mings Garage really hasn't delivered.
It would probably have a flat battery after 3 laps 😂
If the Cyberster is electric then what are the flappy paddles for on the back of the steering wheel?
Like racing stripes I guess, everyone knows racing stripes makes a car faster lol.
REGEN Levels. The best BEVs have a dedicate paddle for Aggressive manually applied regenerative braking. These are awesome features.
Not impressed......May as well be talking about disposable razors. I bet these cars lose half value the second they're driven off the lot and don't even think about running the heater/defroster in winter if you want to make it home. There is a time and a place for electric but i never want my fun limited to the range of any battery.
I'm impressed with the Cyberster.. it's the most unique new electric car out there. The mg4 is an old platform now.
My company car is a leaf... the battery is dreadful. It is very nippy though. Still hate it. 😂
Ev is very sensible in tropical country though, cheap running cost and we don't need a heater or defroster ever
Nice video, not gonna sell me an MG EV though!
Not going to sell me ANY EV, let alone a Chinese takeaway one.
I don't think MG Cares, plenty of people who want them. Soo weird MG branded car now nice and fun. Better than being owned by Leyland.
What is the most British of the remaining brands ... Morgan is probably the most, Jaguar, MG, Aston Martin, Bentley, Rover, Lotus. Mini.
McLaren is a newer brand to me but maybe it's the one?
Undoubtedly quick...but no SOUL!
Wished you share lap times of production ICE cars for context because 59 seconds means nothing to me.
Hahaha awesome video :)
7:07 the paint finish?! 😳
All these comments about MG being Chinese. Seriously change the record. No one cares about this anymore except old men who like to talk about the good old days tinkering with their mgbs. Would you have preferred this iconic brand go to the wall or even worse end up like jaguar?
The push to electric vehicles is dangerous and is going to backfire. 😢
I know this is something that is happening above you guys, and there is a push to encourage electric vehicles from your superiors, but being Automotive Journalists, you really should know better.
ABSOLUTELY. TOTALLY AGREE. Richard Hammond was right when he said "There's GOT to be OTHER options. Ev's CAN'T be the ONLY option. It WON'T work. How VERY true.
The Cyberster is cool, and i love it for being the closest we get to an electric sports car.. but i bet a tesla or porsche is faster on track
Really Mike, your giving Ben aka the Stig racing pointers ?
8 suction cups on the window to film two guys???
didn't know the cyberster was a real thing tbh
Who was in the car in front getting in the way with a rear camera? 😂😂
Nice video thanks!
Did Ben Collins used to be the Stig? I don't think he's mentioned that before 🙄
San Diego Padres hat love!
If volvo made a sports car you would think this is it , not bad !
What a shame the 'proper' driver didn't give the X Power a fast lap! ☹️
Listen to that engine.... Oops!
Still think they should have called it the MG E GT
I was waiting for the MG to pack it in or fall apart because it had rusted.
Is it me of there a touch of the Paul Merton about the stig?
"I've raced here before Mike..."
Another fun video mates! Well done but to the ones crying "it's too quiet " or " it has no soul" have y'all driven any ICE car made in the last 15 years? Unless you've bodged the exhaust they are super quiet and due to the steering wheel and brakes being fly by wire, they lack any feel and are lifeless. No connections to the road.. Give me the silent ev that drags 99.9% of every ICE car it meets and the Rozziers won't hear coming.
@@SaabJitsu That's why I daily drive a 16 Y/O Abarth
Hideous cars,
I hope they won’t sell and get taxed $$$ in Europe in the future
Very much soo getting 35.3% tarrifed in Euro Bloc. Thus why they selling them in UK because Brexit.
@@NeojhunI still see a lot of these in France, but not so many in comparison to Tesla
Some say "He's a cyborg with human skin, all we know he's the Stig!"!
Your suggestions in the do b lee doo
The yellow thingi looks quite nice... from the front. The back... naaa
Pricetag isnt pretty either, 55k starting
SpaceX suit looking a wee bit tight these days. 😋👍