4570 GOVT - shooting baseballs!!!

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  • @WHOTEEWHO
    @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

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    • @willjenkins6417
      @willjenkins6417 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WHO_TEE_WHO have you done anything with a .444 marlin. I want that to be my next lever action rifle

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I never have yet, but i would love to!

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heyo Robert! Always fun shooting random odd targets

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha! You might just go to jail for that one!

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Robert! Believe it or not i happened upon this 4570 for half off clearanced at walmart

  • @oldrabidus2230
    @oldrabidus2230 5 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    45-70 is the only government I support.

  • @chrismarshall4653
    @chrismarshall4653 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    If you hit a large game animal with a hollow point and you hit it in a bone it will deflect in fragment if you hit it with a solid or hard cast bullet it will pass through the bone completely destroying the bone and hitting the internal organ

    • @xiaopeiyu2137
      @xiaopeiyu2137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Go look at wound channels on ballistic gelatin. Even though most hollow points or ballistic tips are "rapidly expanding" they still take a few inches of penetration before it starts to fragment and shed mass. 99% of the time on elk or deer sized game that means it penetrates first shoulder, fragments through the vitals and them stop short or against the farside shoulder. You want a bullet to expend 100% of its energy I side the body cavity. Clean pass throughs are "wasted" energy. At least at reasonable ranges. If your shooting 1,000 yards yeah you'll need every bit of energy left used to penetrate and not expand

  • @icorezx14r
    @icorezx14r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Hornady's are heavily R&Ded hunting loads with a soft tip for the tube fed rifle. The expansion is awesome!

  • @R32R38
    @R32R38 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    145 years old and still going strong!

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes indeed!

    • @michaelghareeb5058
      @michaelghareeb5058 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So you don't think the 45-70 will go anywhere anytime soon. I just bought my henry 45-70, and I love it

  • @NorthWestCavalryman
    @NorthWestCavalryman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    That worked out much like I suspected it would. Cowboy action loads are extremely light as they are used for competitions where the only goal is to hit a steel target and the timer is tripped when the shot goes off, not when it hits. Most people like soft loads as it aids in quick follow-up shots and there is no need to beat yourself up. Now I have HSM Bear loads for walking in the woods as I live in the Great Bear Rain Forest (That's grizzly country). You should follow up this video with one of those on a baseball.

    • @rschris
      @rschris ปีที่แล้ว

      Another Awesome video !! Thanks for posting, I watch and re-watch them all the time. Very enjoyable we have similar taste and would be great friends if we were neighbors!! Keep them coming, bro !!

  • @markamsberg4159
    @markamsberg4159 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another fun to watch video ! I didn't think that HSM would make a big hole thought it would have sent it flying like a home run ball. I got really good results every time I've shot the Hornady Lever Revolution. I have the H&R Buffalo Classic and those are the most accurate rounds I've ever used !

  • @cperine39
    @cperine39 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to see you keep making great videos, fun to watch and a lot to learn. You and I have the same favorite rifle and round although mine is the Marlin 45-70 26” Cowboy. You’re a good man sir! Take care and God Bless.

  • @grandelfe
    @grandelfe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your channel is fun, and shooting things is even more fun.

  • @bhud1972
    @bhud1972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man you have some great videos! With all that land, you’re getting to do some of the coolest experiments with rifles! We are all curious and living vicariously through you and your great videos!

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really appreciate you watching!

  • @unclemikeb
    @unclemikeb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Hornady was engineered to have rapid expansion.
    That is why you saw what happened?
    You get pointed round for flat trajectory but as soon as it encounters resistance it blossoms.
    And that is with a lighter round than the others!

    • @QSasquatch
      @QSasquatch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The entry whole on the Hornady baseball was because of tearing from higher velocity. The bullet DID NOT start expanding yet!

  • @garyleesteinbrecher8837
    @garyleesteinbrecher8837 ปีที่แล้ว

    45-70 I think, is the most fun gun I ever owned! Thanks for vids!

  • @TurdFergusson318
    @TurdFergusson318 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got my 1845 SBL last week and can’t stop watching 45-70 videos. Out of all the tacticool shit I’ve bought before, you just can’t replace history.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta love the 4570!

  • @willjenkins6417
    @willjenkins6417 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My third video of watching your videos. Love your down to earth and just having fun style. Keep it up.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Will! Those kind words are greatly appreciated!

    • @tboda2621
      @tboda2621 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I really enjoy Who Tee
      and this ain't no back down to that AT ALL!
      But, the comments that it seems are always there about being down to earth, and genuine really puzzle me. It's not like the guys who do these videos are English Grand Dukes,
      so we should be amazed that they act so down to earth.
      Like I said, I really like watching Who Tee, and he does a great job...but I cant understand any amazement at his down to earth, genuineness.
      I'm just sayin...

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks T Boda!

  • @garyalensr
    @garyalensr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I need a 45-70. I love me a 45-70 lever gun. Great video and Shootin

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Gary! I need to do some more 30-30 shooting too

  • @kennethblevins6172
    @kennethblevins6172 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do not ever stop making your video's, you enlightin my day and even make me laugh with casual way of talking THANK YOU SO MUCH

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching Kenneth

    • @kennethblevins6172
      @kennethblevins6172 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WHOTEEWHO NO**#! THANK YOU SIR, I LOVE YOUR VIDEO'S A DOWN TO EARTH COUNTRY BOY DOING WHAT HE LOVES, AND YOUR DANG GOOD AT IT. 👍

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kennethblevins6172 🙏🙏🙏

    • @kennethblevins6172
      @kennethblevins6172 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WHOTEEWHO i own several rifles including the 4570 gov. But my favorite of all time was when i was a teen ager im 67 now i had a 220 swift that was an all around killing machine whethet it was deer or ground hogs with open sights if i could see it it was in the bag, but after a few yrs of heavy use the barrel burnt out and traded it for a 218 BEE, I HAVE OFTEN THOUGHT OF HOW ACCURATE THAT LIL RIFLE WAS UP TO 300 YDS , YOUR VIDEOS ARE EDUCATIONAL AND FUN TO WATCH, YOUR DEMEANOR AND DOWN TO EARTH WAY OF GETTING TO THE POINT IS GREAT, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR JUST BEING YOU 👌

  • @GunDoctorTV
    @GunDoctorTV 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of these days I’m gonna own myself a 45-70. Hands down one of my favorite rounds. Great video brother!

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks gundoc! I happenned upon a great deal on this one

    • @GunDoctorTV
      @GunDoctorTV 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      WHO_TEE_WHO awesome it’s always cool to find a deal. I want a BFR from magnum research💪🇺🇸💪

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Meeee too! Seriously that is my next gun. Saving up some $ and getting wife approval 😆

    • @GunDoctorTV
      @GunDoctorTV 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      WHO_TEE_WHO I like your style sir 😂

  • @robertedunn4874
    @robertedunn4874 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the CAS load is only doing about 800 FPS; and read up on the bullet performance from Hornady you'll see why it was so effective

  • @brucerickey8328
    @brucerickey8328 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the BFR in 4570 and you are going to love it. I have a Trijicon 3 mao triagular aim point for a sight. Use the top of your triangle for 50 yards the whole thing closer and the base of the sight gives 3moa elevation reference for longer shots. I shoot the leverrevolutions through it with no problems. Wicked damage on armadillos and I have killed a pig with it too. You do need to practice at various ranges outside. On indoor range only resting the base of the handle I can get 5 round groups of 3/4 inch.

  • @richardfinney8784
    @richardfinney8784 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big difference in bullet density and velocity who- tee, plus the leverevolution round is a huge hollow point filled by the flex tip. That's why it devestated the baseball more. My favorite round for hunting is the Hornadys .great video Sir

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching Richard!

  • @montanalivin8248
    @montanalivin8248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I use the 30-30 160gn. Hornady Lever Revolution round. It has taken my rifle to a whole new level...

    • @pallmall5495
      @pallmall5495 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have handloaded 30-30 for years with btsp,and just turned my rifle into a 2 shooter.I do like this Lever revolution ammo

  • @imhappyandyou.4003
    @imhappyandyou.4003 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @4:16 God bless you!. LOL
    Also I honestly didn't know that you had Rattlers where you were. Please stay safe out there alright!?. Thanks again WTW it's always a joy watching you shoot. 🙏

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup. Not many rattlers, but seen them from time to time

  • @dross1492
    @dross1492 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Hornady load has much more velocity than the other 2. Cowboy loads by definition are lower velocity. Given the age of certain 4570 loads many commercial are low pressure.

  • @blackpowdermaniacshooter
    @blackpowdermaniacshooter 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sweet shooting! I've love to be able to shoot a baseball at 25 yards! They are pretty small my friend! LOL. Thanks for sharing........

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey ive seen you do tackdriving! Those are much smaller than a baseball!😆

  • @troycrites3894
    @troycrites3894 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are correct, CAS are loaded light , for the shooting contests they use. The 45.70 also comes in with 500+ gr weights as well

  • @billsutherland7486
    @billsutherland7486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yep, it’s not surprising the hunting rounds were more destructive at 3” penetration. The 405 hard cast bullet is meant to pass through a very large mass of bone and still have a butt load of remaining energy to pulverize internal organs. The 300 and 305 grain bullets are meant for longer shots on smaller game, whereas the 405 is meant to drop a bear, buffalo, or moose in their tracks. Good fun, great video!

  • @Backyardmech1
    @Backyardmech1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This round brought down buffalo. It’s a hard round to deny even now. It packs some punch.

    • @lomoholga
      @lomoholga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the 45-70 comes in way more powerful rounds today than in its black powder days

  • @troywilderness2459
    @troywilderness2459 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reason for the different results the first two baseballs is that the law in most States is that you must use expanding bullets in rifles/hanguns the first two were expanding bullets and I could rewind but I do believe that the third round fired was a hard cast lead slug, which is a none expanding projectile leading to the popular belief that non expanding bullets mean a slower death to the animal

  • @BonedGolfandFish
    @BonedGolfandFish 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Put those lever action Hornady's in my S&W 627pc 5 inch. Most the home defence .357 rounds give me a decent amount of muzzle flip but those lever action rounds punch right in the palm. Always puts a smile on my face

  • @gregster5391
    @gregster5391 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Line up some baseballs like the milk jugs. Love these videos, Thanks!!!

  • @mikesowder2597
    @mikesowder2597 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man you really hit this one out of the park.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😆😆😆 nice one

  • @timsim1940
    @timsim1940 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely enjoy watching your videos! Cheers from Canada!

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Tim! I appreciate the kind words. Cheers! Anything you want to see next?

    • @timsim1940
      @timsim1940 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      WHO_TEE_WHO you're most welcome, sir! Could you do 444 Marlin or a 44-40, 45 colt or 357 Magnum against the baseballs?

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sure thing we have atleast one of those laying around here somewhere 😆 will film it this wknd

    • @timsim1940
      @timsim1940 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      WHO_TEE_WHO Awesome!! 😂

  • @randlerichardson5826
    @randlerichardson5826 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just subscribed to your channel. There hardcast they don’t mash up or explode they just go through.

  • @toddcook4491
    @toddcook4491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    How about a Buffalo Bore 405 grain that is actually moving fast compared to the rounds you tested?

  • @TheApaulo42
    @TheApaulo42 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You make the best videos really enjoy them

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much Paul

  • @Leonardokite
    @Leonardokite 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yup, {singing} ridiculous!!!! Way to many innuendos and I just don't want to go there. Funny little video there. Bring on the 50 BMG! Whoteewhooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      🖒🖒😆😆😆

  • @ShotgunMikey
    @ShotgunMikey 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hell yeah 45/70 is bad ass! Yeah hard cast is only really good for hunting stuff with thick skin buffalo brown bear T Rex lol. Where did the ball go in the poison oak of course!

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah buddy! Of course it went in the poison ivy!

  • @ericletts4072
    @ericletts4072 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I also shoot the 45-70 Marlin, I just love it. There isn't anything that it can't put down. I also shoot 405 grains. You do have to be careful when you buy your ammo those cowboy loads are a little light. Great video, a good two thumbs up !

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Eric! I love the 4570!

  • @bboutdooradventures491
    @bboutdooradventures491 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am turning into quite a big fan of yours. Loving your videos.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really appreciate that! Looks like a nice gmc in your photo! I had a 1965 that was my absolute dream car. Sold it when we needed some money :(

    • @bboutdooradventures491
      @bboutdooradventures491 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      WHO_TEE_WHO that was my grandpas car... someday I hope to fix it up.

  • @4570govss
    @4570govss 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    45-70 is also my favorite hunting round, I shoot hand loads with a 250gr. Barnes X Bullet. The hard cast bullet is just to hard to expand and with anything less than a head shot will run away and may or may not die. You need that quick expansion like the Hornady has on game.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love the 4570. Hoping to take some whitetail with it this year

  • @carlkoepp1112
    @carlkoepp1112 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The cowboy action rounds are meant for cowboy action shooting competitions so to gain the accuracy and show needed, they have to go with the minimum grains of powder allowed for that competition; very similar to trap and skeet comp rules. All comp shoot rounds have to be factory certified loads to compete; no personal reloads. Still a fun round to shoot and is my all-time favorite.

  • @alanperryman9999
    @alanperryman9999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still have several bowling pins and those are very hard to put a hol in. I shot one with 30-30 @25yds ,cant remember what grain . Surprisingly it didn't do much damage, the 223 needless to say barely did anything either. I got them from a bowling alley ,they throw away the old bowling pins so sometimes they give them away or sell them cheap . Each box has a dozen pins and they're fun to shoot, smaller caliber has a tendency to ricochet though

  • @TheKentuckyPatriot
    @TheKentuckyPatriot 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome stuff brother!!

  • @scottf.3808
    @scottf.3808 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting results as one heck of a round....Good stuff...

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Scott!

  • @gustoarmarin
    @gustoarmarin 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome test now I know what I will use this coming season Hornady.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Hornet ease are a good round. Thanks for watching!

  • @usptact
    @usptact 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The flat tip round reminds me 9mm FMJ, it just goes through the target with little damage. The two hollow point rounds remind JHP, the penetration is less of concern but does more damage.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup! Thanks for watching!

  • @Shooter-1924
    @Shooter-1924 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use the 325gr Hornady LeverEvolution in my 1895g for hunting. Whatever it hits goes down quick and hard. From large whitetail to wild boars, it’s a showstopper. It’s a lighter than normal .45-70 load but very high velocity.

  • @AnA.2016
    @AnA.2016 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    God bless you on that sneeze! LOL

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!

  • @craigpennington1251
    @craigpennington1251 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Today's baseballs are made completely different than the ones we used in 1965 and earlier. Love the 45/70s.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta love 4570!!!

  • @melvinolivera6710
    @melvinolivera6710 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool viedeos also good choice of fire arms along time ago i read am article on 3 caliberes 270. 30.06 and 7mm magnum great story on those 3 calabers. I think it was outdoor life

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching Melvin

  • @steverivera4916
    @steverivera4916 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The cowboy bullets don't expand, that's why the exit hole was almost the same size as the entry hole. These would be great for larger varmint hunting (if you don't have a 22 cal rifle available), if you want to use the hide for making something out of it (in other words, not destroy the hide) and/or if you want to keep the majority of the meat.

  • @jarrettsroka3712
    @jarrettsroka3712 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your right about the cowboy action are under powered to improve speed of reloading

  • @motoputz3201
    @motoputz3201 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    those cowboy action rounds are all smoke, just for show

  • @dalecarter923
    @dalecarter923 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I figured the 405 grain would do the least damage, however I did not expect it to do so little. Like you, I'm not familiar with cowboy action loads. I suspect it's heavy in the lead to take down the steel targets, but light on the powder for reduced recoil. I'm sure of one thing in particular though, this was an awesome and exceptionaly entertaining video.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching Dale!

  • @motoputz3201
    @motoputz3201 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    HSM "cowboy action" ...a lot of smoke, low recoil and just for show

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks motoputz!

    • @motoputz3201
      @motoputz3201 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WHO_TEE_WHO
      Thanks for the video, it’s cool

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for watching!

    • @QSasquatch
      @QSasquatch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fun plinking rounds....

  • @alejandroflores-samaniego9320
    @alejandroflores-samaniego9320 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol I was just about to say isn’t that poison oak and ivy 🤦🏽‍♂️. Just before you said it 😂. That round is serious business! For the serious outdoors men. 👌🏽💪🏽

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know it that stuff is everywhere!

  • @douglasj2254
    @douglasj2254 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any idea about the velocity of the three rounds tested? Weight is important but how fast it's moving is the other half of the equation, yes?
    Thanks!

  • @davidlang80
    @davidlang80 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That settles that Hornady is the one for deer hunting. Thanks for the video

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching!

  • @brandongrant6004
    @brandongrant6004 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the velocities of the loads used. I just bought an NEF handi-rifle with a .45-70 barrel, and I love the cartridge! I know that the 325 grain hornadys are published at 2000 fps. I'm guessing that the others are quite a bit slower from the results.

  • @soylentgreen7074
    @soylentgreen7074 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cowboy action loads are intentionally downloaded for closer targets and fast shots. They have to be all lead because some shots can be so close that jacketing would injure you or damage the targets.

  • @stevemiller7433
    @stevemiller7433 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a Marlin 45-70 Guide gun, just like yours. I loved shooting the Cowboy loads, very light recoil. A bit over 1,000 ft-lbs of energy. They knocked things over, rang the gong. The Leverevolution, not so much fun. The recoil is stout with 3,000 ft-lbs of energy. The 300 grain Winchester's are probably loaded closer to normal pressure as it is a hunting round. This might explain the difference in results.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Steve! Thanks for watching! the cowboys loads are definitely easier on the shoulder!

  • @williamray5467
    @williamray5467 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Think I'll shoot a baseball with my 17 hmr tomorrow, but man I really like my son 45-70 with them 300 gr hollow point. Thank for the video and ideas.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching William!

  • @chuckburk1216
    @chuckburk1216 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 357 lever gun absolutely love the lever evolution rounds

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! They work pretty good from what ive tested out so far. Plan on using them this deer season

  • @gulielmi2002
    @gulielmi2002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I tuned in just to see how much trouble it would be for you to find the baseballs

  • @tomlodge1256
    @tomlodge1256 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 45-70 load you used for this video was listed to shoot at 1300 fps. Typical hunting loads for the 45-70 with 405 grain bullets is roughly 1900 to 2000 fps, so your observational comment of a lightly loaded bullet is correct. However, I use this bullet for hunting, albeit, with pure lead instead of hard cast, and I'd suggest you give it a shot with maybe the buffalo bore. Aloha...

  • @kenhelmers2603
    @kenhelmers2603 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool demonstration! Thanks :)

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Ken! Thanks!

  • @thomasallen3818
    @thomasallen3818 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve shot the cowboy loads and they’re a lot slower. I shoot hand loads that are a little on the hot side. They’re really noticeable in their sound.

  • @iam5692
    @iam5692 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know why I like your channel.......but I do. Thumbs up and subscribed. Oh, your cool....I like your canons too.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha! Appreciate you watching I AM!

  • @earlblackjackmartinjr5750
    @earlblackjackmartinjr5750 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 2 mag research BFRs. 10inch barrels. 500mag an 4570, a buffalo classic 4570 an lever 4570. Buffalo shoots really well with 32inch barrel. I have 3030, 444,450, 35rem, 4570 lever actions. Like all of them.

  • @tattoo62
    @tattoo62 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am very impressed with horaday ftx leverevalution bullets. I get them to reload my 30-30 the 165 gr bullet they seem more accurate for 1 and as far as i can tell they are very close to a hollow point that tip is like rubber so it has to melt or when it hits it disapates . Leaving a small hollow in it.. id like to try the 140 gr bullets for it sometime speed would increase i think.but these are just my thoughts on it . Great video

  • @darrellblake799
    @darrellblake799 6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Hard cast is made for penetration. No such thing as small entry hole with a 45-70 LOL.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats true! 😆 thanks Darrell!

    • @twshawgo
      @twshawgo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      yep bone breaker is what that hard cast is for. big bear round

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would love to go bear hunting sometime! Thanks Tim!

    • @darrellblake799
      @darrellblake799 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have bears trying to den under my cabin in the Va. mtns. I watch these things from my deer stands. I don't bear hunt so I think they are not afraid of my smell. Had them on deer cams even had them take a deer out of back of my truck but didn't see one of them for the first ten years I hunted there. Now when I go out it is no surprise when I see them

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh wow. I have never even seen a bear in my life. We do not have any near our area

  • @robertturner2916
    @robertturner2916 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice shootin, Tex! Just guessing but the Hornady probably had the highest rating for FPS. Speed kills. Please go wash that urushiol (poison ivy oil) off your hands! If you wash the ivy oil off within a couple of hours this can keep you from getting the reaction. Make sure you use a soap that removes all of the oil and wash several times. Makes me itch just watching the video. You are definitely dedicated to your craft. Thank you for a fun video!

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey thanks Robert! Absolutely! I have to take a shower right when i come otherwise ill swell up like a tomato!

    • @nicke1903
      @nicke1903 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Use Dawn,the oil acts alot like Grease,the Dawn will cut it off ya

  • @bruceruttan60
    @bruceruttan60 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd really like to see the 40-60 come back. A great overall deer cartridge without useless oversized cases based on black powder indulgences. The 40-60 case in a modern high quality design, like what CASULL did with the .454. Would make a great lever gun.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will have to read up on that one. Thanks Bruce!

  • @johnmazza5918
    @johnmazza5918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The HSM are hard alloy lead designed to resit deformation on impact and just penetrate deeply. There is slower energy transfer over a longer distance. It's a trade-off. Now, if you want to really launch a baseball, get a .458 Winchester Magnum and load it with 350 grain soft points, or a .50 BMG loaded with, well, anything. The .458 will send it off the property, and the BMG will send it into the next county.

    • @Oldsoldiersays
      @Oldsoldiersays 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      won a 458 win mag in a drinking game back in the army, said i couldn't shoot it 1 hand with my off hand and not drop it or hurt myself. I was 165lbs. I prevailed. Just recently sold it after 20 years. Only fired it like 5 times in those 20 years. Fucker hurt.

  • @richardburnett2589
    @richardburnett2589 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The leverevolution is a hollow point with a soft tip insert. It blew out the ball the way it did because you hit it low. The 300 he jhp entered clean because it was a center mass shot, the exit is exactly what you should expect from that bullet. The 405gr hard cast C.A. did exactly what it should do... It's a hard cast bullet, it's not meant to deform, just pass through. Also, cowboy action means it's loaded light... It's meant for target shooting, not for hunting.

  • @crazylikeafox1000
    @crazylikeafox1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 405 hard cast are made for deep penetration, bear skin, fat, muscle hide, thick bone. On into vitals .The 325 HP are made to make a big hole and only half the penetration of the 405. Love my 45-70! I use 325gr for medium game, but take the 405 in back country. Probably wouldn’t hurt to alternate rounds in the magazine.

  • @gunman-6646
    @gunman-6646 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should get some of those green Coleman propane cans to shoot. That might be pretty cool!

  • @michaelgallagher7696
    @michaelgallagher7696 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I had video of the muley we shot this year with the Winchester X. It was .243. This was number 5 deer, and one elk, with this ammo. It will not exit the animal, imparts all the energy within the animal, and has resulted in instant kills (with proper shot placement). Not real accurate, too much lead tip, but good short range hunting ammo. If you want to watch a great movie, showing the .45-70, watch "Wind River" on Netflix.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks I'll check it out

  • @billwilliams1842
    @billwilliams1842 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use the 45/70 for deer and with the Hornady red-tip they DO NOT go very far. Great round!

  • @18winsagin
    @18winsagin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great lesson as always when I visit your channel, so I'm a new subscriber now and look forward to viewing your videos, I really like the Rifle round videos, I have a Marlin 45 70 Guide Gun short Barrel and its Boss , I'd take it over any of my other guns, by the way just curious what state are you in, I'm in Southern Virginia originally from West Virginia.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love the 4570!

  • @MuzzleMike
    @MuzzleMike 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I keep trying to shoot base balls with my rifle . The BB keeps bouncing off of it ! I think I need to give it a couple more pumps .

    • @MuzzleMike
      @MuzzleMike 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did shoot an orange with a 16 gauge once . Made orange juice . Upset my friend . He did not get a turn to shoot it. It was a slow day rabbit hunting .

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      😆😆😆

    • @williammiller2307
      @williammiller2307 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everyone knows you got to use a quality pellet to get any penetration. Got many a squirrels with pellets. Just pump till you can't pump it without blowing the thing up lol.

    • @enterthehunter7336
      @enterthehunter7336 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rev. MuzzleMike Big Bore go big or go home if you're already at home you can use it there too an air gun is an air gun they are much less restricted as to where you can operate them than a firearm.

  • @RayBlackburn
    @RayBlackburn 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The hard cast bullets have a hardness about ten times harder than the lead in the jacketed rounds and do not expand much at all but penetrate real deep

  • @EMSBallistics
    @EMSBallistics 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The HSM cowboy loads are slow moving hardcast. The best hardcast for 45/70 Is the grizzly ammunition 460gr +P loads! They are funnn

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! Ima order some grizzly!

    • @EMSBallistics
      @EMSBallistics 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      WHO_TEE_WHO awesome! Great video as always :-)

  • @ThatsMrPencilneck2U
    @ThatsMrPencilneck2U 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's baseball season!

  • @3bbray
    @3bbray 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video. I liked it. Try shooting softballs. Never seen the in side of on of those. Also, on the hornady red tip it should have had a clean entry and a good open exit cavity. I think the hornady must have hit low and caught a piece of the clay and immediately expanded. I have been shooting both the winchester and hornady and both are great hunting rounds. Not sure on the 4570, but on a 308 and 30-06 I found if the hornady does not strike something semi hard (aka bone) when hunting it will pass right thru. Just a heads up. I still like the Hornady red tips the best.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey thanks for the info Bill!

  • @mengvaj87
    @mengvaj87 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do an video on 410 bore, 20ga, & 12ga slugger on those baseball

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is a great idea!

  • @jcbalesk777
    @jcbalesk777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not sure which ammo to use for deer on my 45-70. 405 gr remington soft points? The 405 gr hard cast cowboy ammo? Or the 300 gr winchester / federal soft points. I just don't know the ballistic differences or recoil difference.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any of them will work :)

  • @zay7076
    @zay7076 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also have the ghost ring sights on it best thing I ever could do for it

  • @benavrahamyitzchak8433
    @benavrahamyitzchak8433 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    45-70 is my favorite caliber behind 338

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm a fan too!!!

  • @richardhenderson588
    @richardhenderson588 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hard cast bullets are similar to fmj ammo, more penetration and less damage

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup

    • @ScareCorpGears
      @ScareCorpGears 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got a deer with hard cast 405gn this season, I almost didn't find the exit wound was so small. Only found it after skinning deer.

  • @noahm131
    @noahm131 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you ever considered using blocks of Ice. Love your Marlin!

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know i have at least one video with big ice blocks

  • @eliferguson3422
    @eliferguson3422 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Next time I'm playing in a baseball game, I'll just pull out a 45-70 and blast it so it goes far lol 🤣

  • @toddbrewer8215
    @toddbrewer8215 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you buy the buffalo bore 500 grain ammo down South? I live in Alaska and many people like it for a bear round. I do love the Hornady also.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes we can buy it but it is crazy expensive

  • @MadMatt1984
    @MadMatt1984 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome round, no matter what bullet weight you are using.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love em all!

  • @Pantherman63
    @Pantherman63 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My guess as to why the last bullet (HSM) went through with little damage was due to the higher grain and the velocity it produced.

  • @Bob5mith
    @Bob5mith 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The HSM Cowboy loads are trapdoor safe. They're rated for 1300 fps. HSM makes some levergun rated Bear Loads that have the same bullet but rated at 1600 fps. Buffalo Bore and Grizzly makes some ridiculous lever gun 405 gr. hardcast rated at 1950 fps. and 2000 pfs. respectively. I recommend the Buffalo Bore. The Grizzly ammo I've bought has been poorly stored, corroded, and I suspect they are less careful than Buffalo Bore developing max loads.
    The Hornady is a hollow point. It just has a soft polymer ballistic tip to improve air resistance while preventing chain reaction in the magazine tube. You may have noticed that the Hornady warns against using it in revolvers. It kicks almost as hard as the Buffalo Bore in my 26" Marlin, but doesn't kick much harder than the HSM Cowboy loads in my BFR. I asked Hornady what was up with the revolver warning:
    "The BFR is the revolver we have had the greatest number of issues with and it seems to be related to the cylinder gap. The greater the gap the more of a chance there is that the bullet will lodge in the barrel or forcing cone. This, in part, is due to the fact LEVERevolution powder is a very slow burning powder. However, I will tell you that we have employees here who shoot this ammunition through their own BFR revolvers and have no issues at all; it really seems to be a gun to gun, potential issue."
    th-cam.com/video/Zm0gFfF9KFc/w-d-xo.html
    I have shot the Buffalo Bore Magnum and Grizzly +P from the BFR. Be careful. They are ridiculous. 405 gr. @ ~1600 fps. Wear gloves and work your way up to them. The Cowboy loads have a good kick but they're not bad.

    • @Bob5mith
      @Bob5mith 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Forgot to mention, Ultramax Cowboy Action is the softest shooting 45-70 I've found. You might want to warm up your BFR with it.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much Al. Your info is greatly appreciated. I am going to order some buffalo bore tonight

    • @Bob5mith
      @Bob5mith 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Make sure to get the "Magnum" loads from Buffalo Bore, or you're just paying a lot extra for nothing special. They're cheaper from Buds, Midway, CTD, etc. but here are the item numbers to look for: 8A and 8B are monsters.
      www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=35

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Al! I have some gift cards to Cabela's. Hoping they have some

  • @cperine39
    @cperine39 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey buddy. Glad to see you. If you didn't already know, try out Underwood Ammo. You'll be playing in a whole new ballpark! Take care and stay away from the poison oak.🤪

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I contact Underwood ammo with every video looking for a sponsorship....havent received a reply yet 😆😆😆

  • @charlesstreet5030
    @charlesstreet5030 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hardcast won't expand like a soft tip. Obviously less energy imparted to the target. Soft point expand and release energy to target plus large exit.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Charles!

    • @tbthedozer
      @tbthedozer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly what I was thinking about the hard cast, the hollow point is a standard hollow point but if memory serves me the leverevolution is a spin on the ballistic tipped ammo with a thin skin up front and a polymer/plastic windshield for a point and when it hits the target is supposedly going to start massive expansion. If that’s the design the baseball seemed to verify the technology. Lol

  • @gavincampbell7151
    @gavincampbell7151 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Hornady lever revolution is a hollow point like the Winchester’s. The pointed tip is wax or rubber and deforms on impact.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching Gavin!

    • @jasonbrooks4150
      @jasonbrooks4150 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I suspect the hornady round impacted low, causing the entry to be tumbling vs. direct hit. In slow mo, the target pulverized, and at comparison, you can see the orange paint from the clay pigeon on the front of the bball.
      Still great shooting. 1" or 2" off center at 25 yards is dang skippy.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Jason! Thanks! I was surprised I was able to even hit the baseballs every time with the iron sites 😂 thanks for watching!

  • @darylehayward5155
    @darylehayward5155 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cast my own 500 grain hard cast bullets with a muzzle velocity of 1650 fps. I shot a doe at about 50 yards . It slipped a rib going in and broke 1 on the exit. She went about 10 yards and dropped over dead. The bullet did not expand, and because of the low velocity you can eat right up to the hole.