450 Bushmaster VS 4570 GOVT - HOW MANY MILK JUGS???
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Finally, someone actually numbered the targets!!
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That's the first thing I thought. Its so easy to do and yet its hardly ever done.
It looked like to me based on the splash from the water that the 450 dumped alot more energy in those first 3 jugs than the 45-70. I just wonder if it's from the much larger expansion of the 450 bullet. Either way I do not want to be one of those jugs.
Lotsa power in this vid for sure!
Hmm? A little strange. Ballistics show the 45-70 to have a bit more punch (with modern loads) so I expected the 45-70 to dump more energy quicker and stop sooner than 450 bushmaster. The paper plate certainly suggested that, also. This test defies that. I think it is safe to say, they run neck to neck; you can step into grizzly country with either.
Yup I agree. I have both. Wife carries the 450 (less recoil), and I carry 45-70 lever action with my 10mm as back up.
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You should try the 458 socom vs 450 bushmaster vs 4570
That will be a good one
Good idea Robert
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Robert Labelle I like that idea!
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The Bushmaster had 70% more expansion than the 45-70...thats why it penetrated 1 less jug
Really interesting that the 450 bushmaster opened up so much. My guess is that the maker of the 450 uses. Softer lead than Winchester. Always cool to see lead head bullets perform like that. Great video as always
Hey! Thanks for watching! Yeah may be a little bit different lead used. Its slim pickins on getting 450 bushmaster ammo right now. Not many choices out there
Excellent video!! This is a waaaay better site then the Yankme Marshmallow!!!
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I can't stand that douche bag!
Thanks for watching
Lmao yankee Marshall is a funny ass dude. Don’t agree with everything or even mostly anything he says lol but he’s still a funny dude with lots of firearm knowledge. Love your videos WHO_TEE_WHOO, and love your 1895 as well. In your opinion which cartridge is king, the .45-70 or .450 bushmaster? Cuz .458 socom is too damn expensive and isn’t nearly as powerful as either of the first two.
450 is the best
I like my 450 marlin. Very similar to the 45/70
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The 450 expended its energy quicker(greater expansion) so didn't go as far. So which is better? Depends on the nature of your target.
I'm going with the 450 always wanted one , nothing against the 45/70 I have had a couple of them now to try the 450
But for what it’s worth the 45-70 had more powder behind it
Wow! That was a big splash! Gotta love the lever 45--70.
Yup!
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You keep testing the .45-70 with the wimpy bullets that caliber was not designed with. The .45-70 was loaded with a .405 or the 500 grain round nosed Gov. lead bullet, mostly the 500 gr, with low velocity the black powder loads generate.
Velocity is not the answer for more penetration. The .45-70 loaded with the Lyman #457-125 Gov bullet at 1250 fps you would need a longer plank to hold quite a few more water jugs. :D
Butch.
Have lots of videos with heavier bullets. 405 and 600. Problem is that those rounds are a lot more expensive and I'm always broke 😆
Would love to know what each calibers heaviest vs lightest grain round will do
That was fricken sweeeet. I was laughing so hard when you hit them jugs the first time it was hard to focus on the rest really good, but man can they hit hard. 2 thumbs up partner. Loved it.
Thanks DeWayne! The water jugs is one of my favorites! Gotta shoot super straight to catch em
Different ogives on the bullets. I’d be interested in checking weight retention for the two. The bushmaster didn’t seem to shed much and would leave a bigger hole for a game animal to bleed through.
Both some powerful rounds
Mr. WHO_TEE_WHO, wondered about the 450 Bushmaster. Nice bullet expansion comparison. Is that a muzzle break on the Bushmaster and if so does it make a big difference? GO 45-70 GO!
I'm interested in getting a Marlin 444.
I have had one really loved it kinda got in a spot and had to sell it ,but they are a really good gun plenty of punch if I was you and get a Chance grab it
.444.marlin is very comparable to a .45-70. Excellent caliber when you need to hit something real hard to drop it.
Hi,can you do a gel test Hornady Whitetail vs Winchester super x power point..
once I get some gel, happy to do that. Thanks for watching!
Have you seen the channel before? We have over 10 videos with gel. And by the way, those gel blocks cost $150 each. Very expensive stuff I have to pay for myself to make these videos
walk softly, and carry 45-70. another great job!!
The wider expanded bullet from the bushmaster is more than likely why it stopped one jug earlier very comparable test to the paper plate interesting to see the differences between these two types of targets. As always excellent video
Great video. Great results. All of my
.45-70 water jug tests produce shiney, mushroomed slugs.... just like shotgun slugs do. They almost appear to be chromed. Thanks for a really good comparison.
Recently subscribed to your channel. Great videos. Have you ever shot bowling balls or bowling pins. I have shot pins with 9mm with no damage. Always wondered what a High powered round would do to a bowling ball. Keep up the good work.
Hey Jerrold! Thanks for watching! Working on getting some bowling balls
I'll stick with my 450 BM . How ever if could find a old Winchester 4570 like a friend had they don't they don't kick like the marlin do
.....as always, my money was on the 45-70.......yup......my favorite test......thx Mr Who
Is anyone else wondering if the caps on the jugs are making a difference? 45-70 test looks like more of the snap on caps and 450 looks like the screw on caps. Snap on caps are blowing off
Really the 450Bush master should of been 250 grain to be equal voliast as 300 grain 4570
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Victor Ramirez so true
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Alright buddy!! Paper plate time!! See if you can get your rounds to go all the way through!! Lol...sorry..its the kid in me!! Thx for the video Who Tee!!roll on
Already did the paper plates with these. A day or two ago 😂
Love the content keep it up. Because of you I just purchased a 450 bushmaster. I must say it doesn’t disappoint. Bad ass round can’t wait till I shoot a deer just to see what kinda damage it does.
I think the 450 actually did more damage /bigger mushroom 🍄
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I wish I lived closer to you!!!! You're having too much fun by yourself!!! Great vid. Thanks!!
No such thing as too much fun! Thanks for watching Brian!
.450 BM is better
Dumps its energy in the vitals
New bullet design doesn't always mean better 😉
it would be alot more accurate if you used the same barrel length in both calibers
Love to watch your reviews. You are the best .Keep on showing the 450 Bushmaster.
Thanks for watching! I Love the 450 bushmaster!
You need to shot both again because the 45-70 got caught on the table
Really interesting video. Simple, clear results. Just picked up Ruger Gunsite Scout in 450 Bushmaster. Can't wait for the inevitable question when asked "What caliber?" first time out...
"...450 Bushmastahhhh..." of course.
Thanks for watching Edgar! I love the 450!!!
Have been trying to decide on whether or not to get the 450....friend of mine has used it in the AR format for hogs, and seeing this with the 16 inch barrel has convinced me to get the Ruger.....I have the 300 blackout and .308 versions and I really like it them for the portability and price......thanks for the videos!!!
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Looks to me like 450 hits just a bit harder possibly
With these rounds, i think u may be right
They can be hard to find, along with their ammo as far as the average sporting goods stores are concerned, but I would love to see paper plates and water jug tests featuring the .444 Marlin and .500S&W both out of lever action rifles/carbines.
I would love to see it too!
That was who_tee_who Awsome !!
Love shooting water jugs ..
especially at 300/600 yards watching the plume of water with my Ruger RPR .308 😁
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Thanks Helsing! Shooting the water us a lot of fun!
That 1895 marlin is pretty
I think the 4570 expanded just as much as the 450. It just had more energy and deteriorated more the further it went.??
Look at bullets side by side... 450 Bushmaster expanded quite a bit more.
ur using sharps safe .45-70 ammo in 300 gr, scaling it back to meet the limitations of the .450, the .45-70 is a 405 gr round, theres not comparison, the .45-70 is better, then ur using a hollow point vs a soft point? whats next u gonna race a 4 cyl mustang vs a honda to make it fair, then claim the mustangs no better?
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Can you do a kinetic energy test
Include the 350 Legend next time
The test wasn't true though. The bullets need to be same speed. Should of used 250grain in Bush master and 300grain in 4570
Not true. He was comparing the whole round, not just the bullet. Thus controlling the bullet variable. The 4570 has more energy. Larger powder case. I'm not surprised.
Holy crap! That rugar american 450 is identical to the one I am looking at buying from local dealer! Deer in my area love the thick stuff so range is shorter.
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What do you color your water with?
Those mushrooms look perfect - and the spinning jug was awsome. Just what I needed this unbearably hot afternoon :)
A lot of power in these rounds!!!
They really pack a punch - no wonder they are a bit more expensive than .22s :)
Man you should team up with demo ranch sometimes😂😂
That would be fun
Sorry for the thumbs down! I have fat fingers and a small phone!
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Same bullet weight but with differently designed projectiles. Would also like to see chronographed bullet speeds compared.
As simple as it gets, fine.
Something tells me the 45-70, if given a second chance like he did with the .450 bushmaster, would have possibly ended up in the 7th jug instead of popping out of jug 6 and ending up below jug 7.
Interesting how paper plates showed more loss of mass and greater pen on 450 but in water 45 did better and close to 450 in expansion. Guess if 450 hit bone it might lose more mass than 45/70? What do you all think? For hogs and other boney game which would you all choose? 450 does have benefits like AR compatibility. I am looking for hog gun and am fine with bolt or lever gun but with 450 an auto loading rifle has merits. Thanks for seeing I am not well verse in ballistics and terminal performance.
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It would be cool to see what the 500 mag rifle would do against these 2 .
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What were the weights after shooting? Weight retention%. What’s the expansion on each?
no idea. dont have a scale
357 vs 10 vs 44 mag
45/70 will win
You should do a 450 bushmaster vs 350 legend
I did that already
I have both of these guns. The Remington 1895. And the Rutgers Bushmaster 450. I’m waiting to see how this test turns out. But I think the 1895 will win out.
I haven't seen a 30 30 vs a 35. Have u done that?
Not yet!
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Interesting. 4570 has penetration but who has killing power at 150-200 yards. Which retains energy for longer? I would like to see a test because these rounds are used in straight wall cartridge states on deer and we want to know we reach out.
You should redo the 45-70 too. Hit a little higher
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Nice job on the video. Love it as usual. Gonna have to get a 450 Bush Master too for myself
I love the 450 and the 4570!
@@WHOTEEWHO Think i am going to get a complete upper from BCA as I want the semi auto option and I love the AR platform. Watch a video on it and this guy had a 3x9 redfield on one and had a less than 1 moa at a 100 yards, well past any expectations I would dream of
Me to I just gotta save and then wait 6years :( hahaha lol
@@ladwiss That's what I did. That 450 is a beast! I haven't played with it to much, just one trip to the range so I really can't comment yet on accuracy, but that is one hard hitting gun. Kicks about the same as a 12ga slug. One issue I will warn you about is, I live in Michigan and ammo is very expensive and almost impossible to find. I finally gave up and bought some dies for my reloader and I'm just going to reload my own
Picked up my 1895GBL today. Plan on putting it up against my American ranch .450, see what they will destroy.
Awesome!
@@WHOTEEWHO my favorite is still the ranch..but it has a Caldwell bipod, Leopold scope, rings, and caps. Going to upgrade the 1895 to a XS rail system with quick detach scope mount.
Very nice
I like the 45-70 better. But the bushmaster would be fun as well.
I like em both! 😂
How has the Ruger held up? I love the 450 cartridge but every American ranch I have encountered the bolt feels like absolute crap like the machining over all was done by a middle school shop class in West Virginia , I don't mind the polymer stock for the price and although I absolutely despise no iron sights I could still be sold if the bolt felt better,I want one but not if it's unreliable awkward crap basically
Always reliable for me. The bullets hit where I aim. Cant expect a Weatherby butter smooth action from a $400-$500 rifle.
@@WHOTEEWHO cool thanks,I may run down to a different shop and check one out again, back when I was into 7.62x39 I tried a American ranch and it would literally jam the bolt ever couple shots and was way to loose I went with a CZ 527 youth for $450 instead it's freaking awesome lately I been kinda craving 450 Bushmaster so I went down and checked out the American ranch in 450 and while it wasn't AS bad as the 7.62x39 was I was still sceptical and haven't gotten one yet, I have 1895 like yours they are absolutely great, thanks for the feedback brother
I havent had any issues with the ranch 450. Not the smoothest bolt I've even used, but for the money I'm happy with it
What do you think about the. AR 500
Cool but I cant afford it
Id like to see a 308 vs 270 in water jugs and pavers
Love the guns.But like the 45-70 best.How Many empty 45-70 cases will a 22 go thru???
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Only hornady brass haha don't waist the good full length brass 😂
All my brass goes in the trash 😂 dont foresee myself getting into reloading anytime soon
WHO_TEE_WHO 😭 feel free to send the 4570 brass my way hahaha
Ill start keeping it in a box and send it out when i get a lot of it
You always put out great videos, thank you
Personally i like the 450 better ive shot both but the 450 in my opinion for hunting purposes is better because of the range you could get and the stopping power that thing can deliver
BassinBeast 45-70 has more range and go up to 500 grain hard cast rounds for elephant, it’s the smallest dangerous game cartridge you can use in Africa. I personally use 325 grain FTX Hornady rounds in my Marlin 1895 SBL for any and all medium to XL game. The 450 Bushmaster is cool and I will be building one but the 45-70 is better all the way around.
I tried this test using a 25_06 with 120 grain nosler partition bullett went through 9 jugs found in number 10 a more perfect bullett does not exist in my honest opinion!shoot groups of inch at 200 yds Ruger number one 4x12 Leupold fine duplex varix three!try it you'll be surprised Remington factory120 corelokt only go through 3jugs
Awesome!
Great video. I think that marlin barrel is a little longer. I hope Ruger smooths our that bolt action. My choice Bushmaster
Thanks for watching Michael. I dont mind the bolt as cheap as they are
Since you don't load your own on these rounds it would be better if you told us the velocity
of these rounds and also I would like to see the Buffalo Bore loads for 45/70 compaired with both 450 socom and 450 bushnaster .
It's. 458 SOCOM
your marlin is a fine looker and quite the manly cartridge
The 450 bushmaster was rough due to re-entry burns
Marlin 444 vs 450 bush master and throw in a 44 mag
How about 450 marlin
I vote we try 300 blk vs 350 legend
Awesome video as always brother! I'm working on getting a Ruger AR-15 style 450 Bushmaster when I get my tax returns, gonna equip it with a high end scope, bipod, and flashlight attachment, both for deer hunting and night time coyote hunting.
Gotta love tax time
Ever think of using hardcast bullets for such. Much greater penetration.
I have in other vids. 4570 hard cast in crazy!!!
in my opinion this test might not be super accurate because if u shoot one of the rounds at the top of the jug there is less water weight on top of the bullet when going through vs if u shoot one of the round at the bottom with more water on top which slows down the round not allowing more penetration
All in good fun
@@WHOTEEWHO ur right love the channel and was just wondering also could you do a 7mm remington magnum vs 270 vs 450bushmaster recoil test because im looking for a new hunting gun and i live in alaska im also 12 4 ft 10 in and 3/4 in aaaannnndddd love to hunt fish and shoot
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The 450 expanded more and dumped its energy faster. That's better performance in hunting situations.
Unless you want more penetration for something like cape buffalo.
Ran out of milk jugs moved on to shooting his truck....whats next?? Great videos 👍🏻
Ha! We always have an endless supply of milk jugs!
After watching ur videos imma buy me a 45-70! I think they're awesome! Is the ammo expensive?
I love the 4570! Yes more pricey than others. Expect to pay ATLEAST $1.50 per round
Add a peice of paper between each jug so you can track bullet diameter.
A direct comparison of all the 450 Bushmaster rounds to determine which one expands the most/ fastest.
That's a good idea
My grandfather worked at Marlin for 40+ years Trigger department.
True
Who tee check out lever guns 50 he's got 50-110 Winchester and 45-90 also
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@@WHOTEEWHO totally awesome brother I just found him on you tube ,not sure I can handle that much rifle lol but I'd sure enough try
You could do it!
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Very similar weapons for there purpose. Either will get the job done.
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Funny the Bushmaster penetrated farther with the paper plates. Do you feel less recoil with the Bushmaster?
Hard to judge the recoil bcuz the 450 has a built in recoil pad and the 4570 does not. 450 recoil is not bad at all, 4570 aleays feels a little rougher kick
I really like my 45-70, fun to shot and will knock down anything I hit...
Even an elephant! Thanks for watching Rick!
Nice work bro!
Hey thanks! This one was fun!!!
Interesting, in the beginning the .450 appears green, when you shoot it, it appears brown!
Its a tan color stock. Thanks for watching Paul!
Great Show Who T. Shooting water jugs is always great to watch in slomo.
Hey Marq! Thanks for watching!
Love your 4570. Tell me truthfully, how does it kick? I inherited a Thompson 4570 and have been reluctant to shoot it.
Depends on the round. Some have a real good kick to them. Others not much more than a 3006
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