All Weather Tyres - £800 for new boots on my Tesla Model Y
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 เม.ย. 2024
- After 31,000 miles, my OEM Hankook Ventus 3 summer tyres are done. Well, the rears are done - had I rotated the tyres I could have done another 5,000 miles easily.
I live in Scotland with 4 seasons in 1 day weather, so a good set of all-seasons is the ticket. I've identified Michelin and Goodyear as targets. But which ones will I get? And how much will they cost?
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Even though EV tyres are not mandatory, there are very good reasons for going with an EV specific tyre. 1. Stiffer sidewalls to compensate for the additional weight of an EV 2. Less rolling resistance and 3. Sound deadening put in the tyres to help with road noise (because EVs don't have engine noise they are quieter so tyre noise is more noticeable). The tradeoff is less rolling resistance, by it's very nature means reduced performance. So if you're going to throw your EV around a racetrack forget EV tyres and forget them lasting a long while. I think the Hankooks and the Michelin specific EV tyres are great options. Both offer a balance of performance and longevity.
Here in Sweden Tesla delivers really high end quality tires when buying the car as standard. I bought winter tires (studless) from their homepage when ordering the car and they put on Nokian Hakkapeliitta r5 ev. The summer tires that I switched to in april is Michelin e-primacy. And those tires are certainly not garbage.. I'm still a little bit sceptical to Hankook winter tires because I had a set on a Peugeot 407 SW that I previously owned. They were absolutely pure garbage in winter time. The car was literally dangerous in snow. I changed to Michelin and the car turned into a formidable winter car. Hopefully Hankook improved since then but I am as told still sceptic to tires from Asia. Thanks for a very good review as always.
I am keeping my Berlin march '23 Y LR long term as well. Was on Hankook EV (19inch) oem tyres, march-nov 18K Km, consumption 149 Wh/Km. Changed to Crossclimate as yours (19inch) for the winter, and am at 32K now. Average consumption is at 159Wh/Km now, so my educated guess is the added consumption is mainly due to winter, not tyres (it was not so cold, but very windy and wet - all the time). I think you need a break-in period (I noticed the same the first week on the Hankooks)
A few years ago I tried to get the Vectors but there was only 1 available in UK ... so went with Michelin CrossClimate. In 45 years of driving they have been the best tyres I ever put on a car and lasted over 30k miles. They have been great on snow/ice/light mud and wet grass and we fit them on all our cars. Volvo fit them on their XC40 EV, so perfectly good for EV
2017 Model S owner in the US. I grew weary of replacing Pirelli tires every 20,000 miles, even with regular rotations. I made the switch to the CC2 in the hopes that they will last longer than 20K. Based on reviews on Tire Rack and vids on YT, I think I made the right decision. For the first 146 miles, my avg energy was 360 Wh/mi. After a recent 1193 mile trip, the usage has decreased to 329 Wh/mile. As the weather warms up, I reckon the efficiency will improve. They are, a rather knobby looking tire, but you don't see them when you're driving, Cheers!
Watch out for the replacement rim protectors, I tried a set that covered up the whole outside rim and had foam inserts, they definitely started to wear away at the paint so they are now off, will be interested to see what you get.
New tires have more mass than the same set of tires at their end of life, so yes, it is correct that efficiency with tires will improve as they wear, just based on the unsprung mass decreasing.
Thanks for the video! I have the same age and same model Tesla. Very interesting to follow you. Appreciate your efforts. Also planning to keep it long term.
AlloyGator looks good for wheel protection - I am looking forward to see what you get as I want something for my Highland. Thanks Ian 👍
I was travelling around Yorkshire/Nottinghamshire, I noticed a number of non Tesla chargers without cables, bumped into an Instavolt engineer who told me there are a group of people who are regularly cutting the cables then they are repaired and then the same thing happens, i saw 6 at the weekend …this will surely impact on more drivers using Tesla Superchargers.
I put CC2’s on my old Jazz to test before the Tesla. Im on my last few mm on the tesla MPS and will be looking at all season when its time to change. The CC2’s were the best tyres ive ever had on any car. A little squidgy at first and soft in the summer but overall performance was excellent, plenty of grip in the corners especially when cold and wet. They are made for sub 10degree temperatures. Id heard in the EU the CC2’s dont get as many miles as the same tyre in the US due to compound but i got over 45k miles before letting the car go. The Hondy Jazz is substantially lighter than TM3 so thats the only concern, how quickly will the Tesla chew through those tyres… other considerations are the MPS all season or something more rated to road use with some winter capability.
In winter the CC2 were excellent 👌. I often find myself in remote places on untreated roads 🥶 and the CC2’s never let me down. Had to pull over into snowy ditches to let traffic past and noted the SUV behind me struggling to drive free where as little Hondy was off up the hill without skipping a beat. Breaking on snowy/icey down hills was pretty impressive too.
Its strange after driving for so many years on summer tyres in winter you expect a lot more sliperdy slide and it just doesn’t happen. There was a section of road i did slide on but i felt my car got through it a lot better than those around me with their wheels just spinning out, we were crawling though. Anyway CC2’s are on the short list their winter ability alone especially as im now driving rwd is quite appealing although i know Tesla does winter differently.
Interesting to see how the new tyres fitted and left a little more of the alloy on show. Hope your range and efficiency get back to where they were for you.
Have you reset tyre service in the menu? Helps the computer to learn rolling diameters
Good choice. I put them on my MSLR and they were excellent in all conditions.
Regarding your new tire fitting exposing the rim. I don’t think it has anything to do with fitting and stretching.
The old tires simply had built in rim protector. Hankook calls it “Maximum Flange Shield”, the new tires are a bit of a disaster in this regard. It seems like Tesla chose wisely.
I will be interested in how the adds on work.
Model 3 LR, RWD. Had Michelin e-primacy standard. No grip at all in wet conditions. Gave those to my wife (2011 Honda Accord). I have now Goodyear Eagle F1 for summer and Goodyear Vector 4season g3 for winter. Wonderful... Even when the rear steps out it's so easy to control. Live in Belgium.
Cc2’s are great only downside is if you live in an area with alot of road debris/salt or rocks they will constantly get in the grooves.
They are amazing in the rain/snow, i have them on my rdx aspec and once my model y wears thru need to see whats avail
Good video🍺
Did you get the correct Load rating? I used Costco and bought Michelin ePrimacy tyres. Absolutely brilliant rolling resistance and way better efficiency than before Michelin Energy fitted by Hyundai. Also they are very quiet at 68db and weirdly great grip. These are now fitted to the new M3 Highland refresh arriving in the UK. Although not an all season tyre I don’t drive all that much in poor conditions but do drive mostly motorway miles as I live in Kinross so mostly M90 drives. Regularly getting 6m/kwh and above in summer and at worst 4.5 in winter. Costco price with £60 discount was £380 for all 4 fitted and very same load rating as OEM states. 205 60 16 H 92
I'm onto my 2nd set of cross-climate 2 tyres for my car, very happy with them. Although for my Hyundai a set of 4 would be £322.
How much mm left for front tyres?
I just rotated my MYLR wheels last week at 14k miles. Hopefully rotate again after 35k to get over 40k out of the OEM Hankook set.
Please do update with consumption figures after tyres have worn in.
The lifetime average on my 2022 LFP standard range is showing 216 wh / mile, having just dropped down from 217 during the winter. The tyres are booked in for their second rotation having done 13250 miles and To me they still look fine
My wife has a 21 plate bmw i3 and after 30k miles it is now time to get new tyres. I have been thinking of getting all season tyres (they are available for the i3!) so I will definitely watching to see your take on them and if they are worth it.
I went from about 235 wh/mi to 255-265 wh/mi with going from Tesla OEMs to CrossClimate 2. Love the tires. I do feel that are a bit louder than the original foam lined ones, but that’s completely subjective at this point. Big point about the CrossClimate2 tires - they’re four season tires (with the three mountain peak & snowflake symbol) rather than “all season” which, contrary to their name, aren’t for winter use.
I beg to differ. I have been driving in the winter on all season tires all my life, and I do not see why they would not be adequate for that season.
For context, I have lived in the Buffalo, NY area for the past 25 years. We get more snow than most places. We are also no strangers to cold. All season tires are fine here.
I wonder if there is a difference in meaning of "AS" between our continents and what you describe as 4 season is what "AS" is to me. I have never heard of the "4 season" designation before, perhaps for that reason
well try continental allseasoncontact 2
Wishing you tens of thousands of miles of safe travels on your car's new shoes!
I do not live on your side of The Pond, so I have no opinion on CC tires, but plenty of people in the comments on your videos have had them, and not just on Teslas, so they must be good.
As someone who lives in an area that is no stranger to copious amounts of snow, I do not think going with all season tires is wrong. I am actually somewhat against the use of snow / winter tires by inexperienced drivers solely on the basis that such drivers may get a misplaced confidence boost "I have snow tires, I am invincible!" As someone with a driver's licence for nearly 30 years and a parent of two fairly new drivers, I am leery of putting snow tires on their cars. Are winter tires better than AS ones? No question. Are they essential for driving in the winter? Not in my eyes.
Appreciate the different perspective! I have always managed on summer tyres - these are my first set of all season. But several times I’ve nearly got stuck on summers, so all season should mean that isn’t a problem again
@@justgetateslaI have always lived in climates in which summer tires would not work without a set of winter tires to go along. As such I have never owned any, all I know is what others such as yourself have said. I believe that below +7C summer tires become unusable, whereas AS ones lose some performance but not all of it. I have never owned winter tires until last fall when I could not get any AS tires at all to match the specs I needed, winter was fast approaching and my then-current set would not have lasted another winter. "Can't get any AS tires whatsoever, might as well get winter shoes, and buy myself a few months in the process"
Could somebody help me in my decision. At least once a year I am abroad for 2 months, if I have a Tesla in the drive parked outside will the battery be flat ? I have no one to charge the car when I am away. Thank you for your help
Switch off sentry, switch off the cabin overheat protection, switch off the app. That will reduce energy use, but I have no idea if that will be enough to stop it going flat
@@justgetatesla Thank you very much for your advice / help
Has anyone had any issues getting EV tires serviced?
I heard rumors that some places will refuse to e.g. fix a flat in an EV tire (e.g. when they take tire off the rim and see the noise-reducing foam on the inside). Has anyone run into something like that?
Why would that be true? What are “EV tires”? Do you means with sound deafening foam inserts? That isn’t an EV tyre - I had those as standard on my diesel Volvo. And they can repair those, no problem
I have not experienced this myself nor heard of this happen to anyone, I am only going by this review th-cam.com/video/UpJfpTBSM88/w-d-xo.html and wondering if this has happened to anyone
I would have been very interested to know just how much tread was left on the old tyres. I assume you had rotated them as Tesla recommended. Your car is the AWD version isn’t it. You may have expected the AWD nature of the car to have evened - out the rate of ware front to back. Be interested to know sone facts here. Thank you
I said in the video that I hadn’t rotated them. And that there was a good 5,000 miles left in the fronts.
@@justgetatesla The actual depth of tread is much more useful as a guide.
They look terrible on the rims, like they're the wrong size tyre. I've never seen tyres that look like that and I'd be worried about safety as looks like they could move which could cause instant deflation. Presume ok as right size, but not very comforting.
Obviously going to offer no protection either, but ruined the appearance.
Also have you not put on the wheel trims ? Would that not help? My tyres have a rim protector which is thicker rubber on the outside side walls? It almost looks like these have been fitted the wrong way round? But I’m sure there not obviously these model of tyres don’t have built in rim protection ? I wouldn’t be happy about that much metal protruding out on the wheel rim myself :-(
I always thought that tyre rim protection was kinda marketing bs.
If you have to relay on a tiny bit of rubber to avoid scuffing your wheels then some advance driving lessons are due.
CC2 are best all around tyres, tried and tested on 7 cars in UK and loads of road trips to Europe.
Why on earth do you just put ordinary tyres on. We live in Britain and you have a four wheel drive car. Our weather never gets bad enough to justify all weather tyres. Summer tyres all year round are quite sufficient .
I shared your opinion, as I live in Belgium. Until that one cold wet day in december 2014 when i litterly ditched my poor Honda. 7.000 euro repair bill. From that day on: alway season adapted tyres. In my case all season tyres for winter and summer tyres in summer. It not only feels good and safe. It actually IS.
You obviously not following the channel because you'd have known he's living in Scotland and get a lot of wintery weather.
It's not just about snow. Summer tyres are rubbish below 10 deg C.
I'm in Derbyshire and it was down to 1-3deg on our morning runs all week and it's end of April. Climate is changing so all season tyres are good compromise.
Darling, where do you live? I live at North Pole North…
It depends on where in the UK you are.I live in NE Scotland and wouldn't be without snow and mud rated tyres.I would struggle to get to the main road quite often.EV tyres give less rolling resistance but are pretty useless in winter weather.
Where I live, near to the sea and South of the South Downs, the temperature seldom gets below 6c. I can't remember the last time we had snow. I simply don't go out if the weather does not suit me and so I run on summer tyres. However when I lived just a few miles north, and had to be at work for 0545 I ran on tyres rated for colder weather. Its simply a matter of horses for courses. Having four wheel drive is no use if the tyres do not grip.