What if Wario was in Melee?

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  • All I'm saying is that, if Wario was in Melee, we'd probably have world peace by now.
    Ron Lama's thread: thomasmeable/stat...
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    0:00 Disclaimer
    1:24 Intro
    4:01 Basic Motions
    6:04 Normal Attacks
    8:39 Smash Attacks
    10:06 Aerials
    12:30 Special Moves
    17:14 Throws
    19:31 Others
    24:45 Outro
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    Wario holding a gun: www.mariowiki.com/File:Kc_mar...
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  • @HakuZaku
    @HakuZaku 2 ปีที่แล้ว +257

    Fun fact: Wario WAS supposed to be in melee but was left due to time crunch. Sakurai said if he had more time, Wario would have been added

    • @draconicanimations2381
      @draconicanimations2381 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Makes sense cause melee only had 13 months of development time.

    • @draconicanimations2381
      @draconicanimations2381 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @CHAGWAG Yeah it's also my favorite smash Bros game.
      My second favorite is brawl because the music and the story mode slaps hard!

    • @draconicanimations2381
      @draconicanimations2381 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Zacktheasdfguy Yep! Sonic, Wario and Snake.

    • @Rubberman202
      @Rubberman202 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I believe he also said he COULD have added Wario if he based his moveset around Mario, but thought Wario was too unique to just mimic Mairo and deserved better than that. This idea would instead be used for Dr. Mario. Not sure if he actually said this, though.

    • @Antonio-is2cn
      @Antonio-is2cn ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "Because Wario deserved better" - Sakurai

  • @insectoid_creature
    @insectoid_creature 3 ปีที่แล้ว +402

    Imagine this wario wavedashing then doing neutral b

  • @papaG6423
    @papaG6423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    Wario should have taken Ganon's spot in Melee, and Ganondorf should have been a Brawl newcomer. This way, Wario would have been closer to his portrayal in Wario Land, and Ganondorf wouldn't have been rushed into being a Captain Falcon clone

    • @CodenameBolts
      @CodenameBolts ปีที่แล้ว +5

      But maybe Wario would have been a clone of someone

    • @WLOVER57
      @WLOVER57 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@CodenameBoltsMashing Hero Sex Guy said he would have been a mario clone

    • @richardsorgo8600
      @richardsorgo8600 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He should have replaced Dr Mario's place (Gannodorf at least felt unique in comparison).

    • @HKG4
      @HKG4 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Unfortunately, we live in the worst timeline

  • @justadude450
    @justadude450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +604

    I wonder why neither Wario or Mario have the ground pound as a move

    • @dannybright8708
      @dannybright8708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Just a Dude Wario kinda does as his down throw

    • @rayminishi689
      @rayminishi689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Yoshi was the first to have a ground pound. In SMW2: Yoshi's Island
      But who knows

    • @dragonball4ever2009
      @dragonball4ever2009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@rayminishi689 Yeah technically Mario borrowed the ground pound from Yoshi from SMW2 which technically was also borrowed from Bowser who did it first in SMB3

    • @lemmingscanfly5
      @lemmingscanfly5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@dragonball4ever2009 Yeah came here to bring up SMB3 Bowser, Mario could do a quasi Ground pound as well in 3 with the tanooki suit's stone Mario.

    • @rodrigomorales563
      @rodrigomorales563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think mario is fine without it, since he wasn't the first to have it.

  • @SteffyCush
    @SteffyCush 3 ปีที่แล้ว +509

    the 'hurry up!' phase for the stage is such a good touch lol

    • @mewa3263
      @mewa3263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Fr bro. Honestly this whole video is packed full of character analysis I love it

    • @ShockHat734
      @ShockHat734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agree, the stage may have been my favorite part

    • @dabluepittoo-aqua4213
      @dabluepittoo-aqua4213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm depressed that there isn't any Wario stage out there without the Hurry Up phase.

    • @janehenderson-qh7jb
      @janehenderson-qh7jb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can yo do what if sonic was in melee please

    • @SteffyCush
      @SteffyCush 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@janehenderson-qh7jb yeah I'll get to work on it

  • @Wildue
    @Wildue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +522

    Everyone: WALUIGI IN ULTIMATE!!!
    Mish Koz: WARIO IN MELEE!!!

    • @nick-cepticon782
      @nick-cepticon782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I’m in the same boat as Mish lmao

    • @ToyFreddyGaming1987
      @ToyFreddyGaming1987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Finally, some common sense

    • @JuhoSprite
      @JuhoSprite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes

    • @jeffindecheirobom8436
      @jeffindecheirobom8436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @CEO of Robberism Wario is in a Smash 64 rom hack called Smash Remix

    • @kangdide
      @kangdide 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Me an intellectual: WALUIGI IN MELEE!!!

  • @juppeta6061
    @juppeta6061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +490

    Obviously, it'd just be melee but better.
    It's WARIO, he improves EVERYTHING.

    • @mewa3263
      @mewa3263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Wario smelly tho :(

    • @moosesues8887
      @moosesues8887 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wario is stupid

    • @mewa3263
      @mewa3263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@moosesues8887 not stupid. Just smelly

    • @juppeta6061
      @juppeta6061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@moosesues8887 Jesus christ man, just making a comment about what I think Wario does. No reason to just casually come on in and say this.

    • @moosesues8887
      @moosesues8887 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mewa3263 I think he is a idiot

  • @cosmicspacething3474
    @cosmicspacething3474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    I think “Have a rotten day” from Wario world should definitely be a voice line for his back throw

    • @AbstractS04
      @AbstractS04 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Or even taunts

    • @laithlkc
      @laithlkc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Nah, he says it when he wins, new win anims baby

    • @TheKorenji
      @TheKorenji 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I don't think Wario World was taken into account when this video was being made.

    • @dustymcwari4468
      @dustymcwari4468 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheKorenji It actually makes sense when you consider that Shake It! wasn’t that taken into account when he was being made back in Brawl

    • @hyde5213
      @hyde5213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheKorenji He did specifically show Wario World as a source for Wario voice clips, but could've been after finalizing the moveset.

  • @elfiebranford9330
    @elfiebranford9330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +369

    Personally, as much as I love WarioWare, I really wish there was a good balance with Wario Land moves in his overall moveset. As a Wario Land fan, this video was heartwarming :3

    • @omarpikm2101
      @omarpikm2101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      qwario

    • @Stratilex
      @Stratilex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      For me the issue is music. We have one wario land song, yet Gamer is in??

    • @callumbreton8930
      @callumbreton8930 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly, I think they’ve put in a heap of his Wario Land moves. His dash attack and crawl animation come from it, and if you look at his landing lag animation on his back air, he mimics his ground pound

    • @moosesues8887
      @moosesues8887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@callumbreton8930 do you hear yourself my guy??

    • @CalzoneStudiozOfficial
      @CalzoneStudiozOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Stratilex and not greenhorn forest, dissapointment

  • @jedisquidward
    @jedisquidward 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    It's so funny; throughout the different smash entries since Brawl and various Smash fan games, it's Wario of all characters that has SO MANY moveset changes and different moves.

    • @LostSoulSilver
      @LostSoulSilver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Goes to show how much his base moveset fucking sucks. No Wario Land, 2/10

  • @kangdide
    @kangdide 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    If Wario was planned for Melee, I doubt they could even pull a lot from Wario Land 4 because of the short development time. I could see concepts like Wario's transformations being done, but I don't think specific animations would be ready to be referenced.

    • @user-gu3nd7si5m
      @user-gu3nd7si5m 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      wario WAS planned for melee tho. but they got rid of him bc they lacked time

    • @phoebeaurum7113
      @phoebeaurum7113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-gu3nd7si5m I wonder what they planned on doing?

    • @GodOfGreed
      @GodOfGreed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@phoebeaurum7113 I was gonna be a slower Mario clone

    • @dustymcwari4468
      @dustymcwari4468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@GodOfGreed most likely, Sakurai said he doesn’t really know much about Wario games other than a bit of WarioWare, he even controversially got rid of the Shoulder Bash (that was really more of the tackle from WL3’s golf instead of the real thing) in Sm4sh and replaced it with some random backhanded punch that rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, but he may’ve also preferred to give him more uniqueness, otherwise chances are that we would have gotten Wario as the slower, heavy hitting Mario instead of Dr. Mario, and having a different size is no problem for clones because Young Link and Pichu exist

    • @dustymcwari4468
      @dustymcwari4468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Improvisado64 okay, I’ve been looking it up and…yeah, I can’t find that, weird, I do remember somewhere mentioning he’s only ever played WarioWare games prior to Wario’s development in Brawl, even though Shake It was also being developed at a similar time (even the Stonecarving City theme is an extension of Wario’s victory theme that was made for Smash!), soooo okay, what I said was an exaggeration, or just a straight lie coming from foggy memory, at best only thing he did do was remove his Shoulder Bash for the sake of “making him stronger”, saying he prioritizes the character being fun and enjoyable over being faithful, which was ironic considering the og Smash attack was pretty good and the new one was and still is way less useful, so it ended up being a nerf, not a buff, buuut that’s really it as far as I can find, sooo, sorry for that dumb misinformation :,c

  • @callabo4473
    @callabo4473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    The only man brave enough to ask "What if?"

  • @atoversl
    @atoversl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    i wished wario would have more wario land moveset in ultimate

    • @mewa3263
      @mewa3263 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

    • @ShockHat734
      @ShockHat734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @papaG6423
      @papaG6423 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sigh....same

    • @Cwispyvibes
      @Cwispyvibes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      With some master of disguise moves in there too.

    • @atoversl
      @atoversl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Cwispyvibes yees!

  • @dannybright8708
    @dannybright8708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    His Star K.O. sound should be “OH MY GOD! WAAAAAAAH!”

    • @yellowmarioflexing8626
      @yellowmarioflexing8626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      If Wario was in Melee, his Star KO scream would be "WEEEEEEEEAAAAH", as later heard in Wario World GameCube 2003 videogame.

    • @CalzoneStudiozOfficial
      @CalzoneStudiozOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Even better, his scream from mario 64 ds and double dash
      (OOOOWWWAAAAA!!!!)

    • @yellowmarioflexing8626
      @yellowmarioflexing8626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@CalzoneStudiozOfficial Fake crappy plan. Wario's Voice Lines from Mario Kart: Double Dash did not exist before 2003.

    • @CalzoneStudiozOfficial
      @CalzoneStudiozOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@yellowmarioflexing8626 so... mk 64 scream it is then

    • @mintymechanic8420
      @mintymechanic8420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Or in NTSC versions: "D'OH I MISSED!"

  • @KingKalashnikov
    @KingKalashnikov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    the perfect wario would be two warios
    one wario that is the one that we have now (biker alt only)
    and wario land wario (overalls only)
    we have like 2 marios, 3 links, 2 samus etc. so this could work

    • @thelavaslug5465
      @thelavaslug5465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Perfection

    • @gooigigamer7398
      @gooigigamer7398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      *G E N I U S*

    • @CalzoneStudiozOfficial
      @CalzoneStudiozOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      *BEEG BRAIN*
      So you mean separating the wario land alt, give biker wario 4 more skins, and wario land wario as own character right?
      *GOOD!!*

    • @KingKalashnikov
      @KingKalashnikov 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CalzoneStudiozOfficial Exactly!

    • @rodrigomorales563
      @rodrigomorales563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well here's the thing.
      -dr mario existing in smash is stupid.
      -having three links is kinda redundant, but not as bad as dr mario.
      -and dark samus doesn't count.
      Having two wario's is really pointless to me. The current wario isn't even STRICTLY warioware. It'd be better if we could COMBINE all of these elements together. No need to segregate them.
      Also, I really hate dr mario. Have I mentioned that?

  • @deathrod123
    @deathrod123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    If you zoom in on the back of Wario's head, you can see smile dog's eye behind his hair!!!

    • @MishKoz
      @MishKoz  3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      that's his finel smash xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

    • @deathrod123
      @deathrod123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@MishKoz I am very funny

    • @robbiewalker2831
      @robbiewalker2831 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MishKoz I feel that this theme would've fitted Wario better for a "Wario Wins" theme, for how much of a Goofball and a Jerk he is: th-cam.com/video/se-zaDSbslo/w-d-xo.html

    • @MishKoz
      @MishKoz  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@robbiewalker2831
      That's the song they use for his victory theme in the "Smash 2" mod!

  • @robezharvey8475
    @robezharvey8475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Love this man’s content

  • @devy2
    @devy2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    There are no custom melee characters yet, but we’re close to one.
    Edit: Now there are! This is now possible!

  • @WilfredCthulu
    @WilfredCthulu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Smash Remix is a very Wario Land and n64 spinoff Wario. I absolutely love these renders btw.

  • @davidvkimball
    @davidvkimball 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Great video. Amazing attention to detail, from the model you used from Melee's Wario Trophy, and the wonderful renders produced from Blender, as well as the careful examination of the source material to develop his moveset and animations, and the mention of Project M. Sub'd!

  • @rodrigomorales563
    @rodrigomorales563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    How has no one ever thought about wario's neutral special being him throwing bombs?! It's his most iconic weapon, and even his personal favorite! He's used them more than any other character, and certainly more than waluigi.

    • @MishKoz
      @MishKoz  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I mentioned it in another reply, but I did briefly consider it. That or a fireball attack that would act like an explosion/kill move, a-la Super Mario Land 2 final boss

  • @juanrodriguez9971
    @juanrodriguez9971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Wario is by far the only character I don't want to change at all, is just perfect as he is, instead, what if we had two Warios? We have 2 Marios, 3 Samus, 4 Marths, and 3 Links, why not a 2nd Wario that resembles Wario Land?

    • @MishKoz
      @MishKoz  3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I like the way you think

    • @Wildue
      @Wildue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      U r big brain

    • @worstspytf2824
      @worstspytf2824 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly

    • @mewa3263
      @mewa3263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think Reggie is just scared to put him in idk 😔

    • @mewa3263
      @mewa3263 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @thunder key probably

  • @ShockHat734
    @ShockHat734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The stage idea was *gold,* you just earned yourself a sub

  • @cowquack
    @cowquack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    You want fun? Too bad, this is-a smash bros melee!

    • @nicegoatdoctor8224
      @nicegoatdoctor8224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Melee do be fun doe.

    • @Edgeperor
      @Edgeperor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nicegoatdoctor8224 as long as you don’t play Kirby or Bowser

  • @keeby4
    @keeby4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am still baffled that wario doesn’t have his shoulder tackle in smash 4

  • @tuskoub
    @tuskoub 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Nobody makes premium Wario content like Mish :D

    • @mewa3263
      @mewa3263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      WwwWario is typing...

    • @thatguyinthecorner4648
      @thatguyinthecorner4648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dropping by to say I appreciate the Leif avatar, have a nice day

  • @OlmiOP
    @OlmiOP 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As someone who has recently gotten into the Wario Land series, I wish this is what we got for a moveset, I love this

  • @lilgabbo2587
    @lilgabbo2587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    In actuality, even though I don’t play melee (or any smash games that much as I’m not big on the series) Wario would be sick in Melee, he’s just a chad

    • @hetchera14564
      @hetchera14564 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Wario is always a chad, in every game he's in

    • @lilgabbo2587
      @lilgabbo2587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hetchera14564 yeah but if the lad Waluigi gets into Smash, I’ll finally get into them

    • @nicegoatdoctor8224
      @nicegoatdoctor8224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The virgin Mario vs the chad Wario

  • @RedTHedge
    @RedTHedge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Good, a Waluigi reference that isn't Mario or Luigi.

  • @shellyvision9693
    @shellyvision9693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think Wario's pummel (at least in current Smash games) should be him shaking the opponent like in Wario Land Shake It.

  • @iSomeDood
    @iSomeDood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    *"I like this model."*

  • @super1-up21
    @super1-up21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    you sir are one of the greatest achievements, this moveset is fucking incredible

  • @skinnyluigi
    @skinnyluigi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Where are his fart moves? Where's the garlic? I don't think you're a REAL Nintendo fan after all. - Miyamoto, 2020

    • @dubstepsoundwave-yo8te
      @dubstepsoundwave-yo8te หลายเดือนก่อน

      Here is an idea for you; he becomes spring wario for his ground up special and farts upwards for his aerial up special, the garlic can be a taunt

  • @an_unidentified_emu
    @an_unidentified_emu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm so glad you included vb wario land, imo it's the best one and you can see a lot of ideas starting to develop that would eventually be used in later wario land games. Great job on the video.

  • @elkarlo1593
    @elkarlo1593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I hope Wario becomes more weird and crazy, so that Wario Land Wario becomes a newcomer
    I'd love to see both sides of Wario coexisting rather than merged with some serious biase towards one side

    • @rodrigomorales563
      @rodrigomorales563 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The merge CAN have a balance. People just don't do that for some reason.

    • @elkarlo1593
      @elkarlo1593 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rodrigomorales563 No, I meant the official Smash version of Wario Is a lot more leaning towards the WarioWare side than the Wario Land side

    • @rodrigomorales563
      @rodrigomorales563 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elkarlo1593 oh ok, I thought you meant split them into two movesets, because I personally find that idea kinda dumb.

  • @foursidekm
    @foursidekm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm glad you didn't completely trash on Wario's current moveset like a lot of other people do. Great moveset btw, there's a lot of great ideas here

  • @knack3381
    @knack3381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    every day in the morning i sit up and i ponder questions like
    "why was golden plains made instead of a wario land stage?"
    "why isnt bowser's castle a stage?"
    "why did smash ultimate bring back rainbow ride instead of making the mario 3 airship a stage given that bowser jr is in the roster?"
    "why is every mario related stage a fucking stupid green plains level or 1-1? (except for rainbow road whose pride is selfjerking)"
    "if they want to not represent wario land in his moveset so much then why don't they just make a stage about it?"
    "who fucking let the entirety of wario land only have a single song in ult's soundtrack yet let have mario sports superstars have two?"
    "where is wario in melee?"
    glad to see a video address these issues :)

  • @tslanews24
    @tslanews24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Actually, Wario does have Ground Pound in Ultimate in the form of his Down Throw. But I agree that it fits better as his Dair

    • @MishKoz
      @MishKoz  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I do briefly mention it at 17:49 lol

    • @tslanews24
      @tslanews24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MishKoz Ah, that's right. I missed that. In Ultimate however, it looks even more like the ground pount than in Brawl and 4. He falls down more "snappy", and his arms are raised like in his ground pound animation from the WL games

    • @pizzawonderer5024
      @pizzawonderer5024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I prefer his Ultimate dair. The animation just looks crispy.

    • @rodrigomorales563
      @rodrigomorales563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd make it his down special.

    • @dustymcwari4468
      @dustymcwari4468 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rodrigomorales563 they could also move his Waft to be an attacking taunt like Kazuya and Luigi, it’s already a disrespectful move, it works perfect like a super taunt, and the online should let players use those moves because they’re not really taunts

  • @geschnitztekiste4111
    @geschnitztekiste4111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like the shoulderbash would feel more natural as his side-B, since you could then possibly jump during it as well, making it more accurate to WL.

  • @cornpiranha7233
    @cornpiranha7233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I misread the title as “What if Mario was in Melee?”

  • @YosherYoshi
    @YosherYoshi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I too would like to live in a universe where official Smash Wario does not fart in his moveset anywhere.

  • @lennoxschmidt4020
    @lennoxschmidt4020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, man! Just finished watching and when it comes to your content, I love how in-depth you go when you want to explore something in/about a game.

  • @aurafox1
    @aurafox1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is actually a really cool video! Not only did you put a lot of work into the visuals, but you also were very careful not to reuse too many similar ideas between moves and animations. I love it!
    I've thought about a lot of what-ifs like this, too. Basically, what would Melee be like if it had more dev time and could represent each franchise more thoroughly? For example, I've always thought if they had more time, they might add Scizor to represent Pokemon Gold and Silver since he represents so much new content from GS between being a new pokemon, a new evolution, a new type, and even representing held items because of his method of evolution, all while fitting perfectly with the rest of the roster thanks to being bipedal. But I'd love to explore this idea further to the degree that you have with Wario.

  • @burntsiennaleigh
    @burntsiennaleigh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    imagine an hbox set on the wario's castle stage

  • @CheerUpCrewcut
    @CheerUpCrewcut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey, that's pretty neat. Those are some cool ideas for Wario, I've never played WarioLand so it was interesting to hear what a WarioLand fan would do, and I understood all of the nods and references as they were explained clearly. That was a really good video, I like it.

  • @DeathAlchemist
    @DeathAlchemist 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You did a great job here, I loved the ideas and what you pulled from. I wouldn't mind to see more of these.

  • @theminiyosshi2901
    @theminiyosshi2901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like to imagine how people would see in the hurry up segments of Wario Land 4. It’s crystal clear the closer things are to you but the farther you see the more distorted it gets, until you actually get there in which it’s clear again

  • @CelloGamerMatt
    @CelloGamerMatt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    All the music stamps too! Love the extra work you put in your vids! It means a lot for both viewers and the composers

  • @mattsnows7971
    @mattsnows7971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, this deserves a lot more attention. Getting all of these models makes the video so much higher quality.

  • @robezharvey8475
    @robezharvey8475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    6:07
    In fact, I didn’t come here for anything, you summoned me.

  • @TheKorenji
    @TheKorenji 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yeah... everyone talks about Wario Land 4, but what about Wario World?

  • @SolarCLS6
    @SolarCLS6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wario is one of my favorite characters in smash.

  • @sonicsaver2138
    @sonicsaver2138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have an idea for Wario's down throw, he would jump up in the air and drill the opponent into the ground.
    This would be a reference to Wario World.

  • @christophergyamfi7550
    @christophergyamfi7550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, I love this interpretation of Wario so much, especially his specials like the Down B (being a special flatten state). He even still has super goofy, cartoonish angle. I like how you said that this isn’t a “Fixing Wario” moveset but rather a What if Moveset, it’s fun to look at characters and see what directions they would taken under right circumstances. I kind of like Wario’s actual moveset but I totally agree that he should have some Wario Land influence in his Smash design.

  • @mersunarytigre
    @mersunarytigre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @6:13
    His jab combo should just be ripped out of Wario World (punch-punch-headbutt) given how the game pretty much handed him one.

  • @Edgeperor
    @Edgeperor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Models are definitely very hard to animate, but you might want to consider putting this version of Wario in Rivals of Aether workshop, especially since the moves that originate from Wario Land 4 wouldn’t have to be made from scratch

  • @pauluigi60
    @pauluigi60 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    7:29 Its not too far off. Sakurai gets permission to take a look at games early before making fighters sometimes. But since Brawl released 7 years after Wario Land 4 it wouldn't make much sense in this case.

  • @seifoswaglel5823
    @seifoswaglel5823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First the wario apparition now this?

  • @broken3714
    @broken3714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is gonna be the best video I watch today and its 7:46 am.

  • @TheRealElSeeDee
    @TheRealElSeeDee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YES NEW VIDEO

  • @LuigiLitoLL
    @LuigiLitoLL 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With Melee Modding starting to become more accessible, I hope to eventually see Wario in Melee with a moveset like this. It's only a matter of time now.

  • @endoftheleft2704
    @endoftheleft2704 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:29
    Well that IS the same guy who chose a plant to be the next Mario rep over actually requested characters like Geno, Ashley, and Waluigi.

  • @siga.7578
    @siga.7578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These are some really good ideas for how Wario or at least "Land" Wario would be like in Smash Melee. Really faithful to the series.^^

  • @defaultio2798
    @defaultio2798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mish Koz: I don't wanna have two aerials that are too similar.
    Isabelle and Villager: *laughing hysterically*

  • @dms-pzo8170
    @dms-pzo8170 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad to see you're back!
    I'm happy you're ok :)
    I love this video, keep up the great content

  • @CottonCandy2C
    @CottonCandy2C ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like if Wario were in Melee, he would definitely not be like this, this feels way too reference heavy for the movesets that this game has. I think if Wario were actually in Melee, he's be very similar to Brawl Wario, but with smoother animations, Shoulder Bash instead of Bike, Ground Pound instead of Waft, and maybe a new Neutral B

  • @smashingstargamer
    @smashingstargamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    at last, Melee is finally good

  • @GlitchanBlack
    @GlitchanBlack ปีที่แล้ว

    20:14 for the all famous "E-E-E-Excellent!"
    By the way, the song at 1:58 is the Graham Blvd cover of Secret Agent Man featured in The Super Mario Bros. Super Show episode _On Her Majesty's Sewer Service._

  • @Micha-Hil
    @Micha-Hil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "not every single move has to have an origin"
    DBFZ: i beg to differ

    • @MishKoz
      @MishKoz  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      DBFZ is on another level of accuracy (but tbf they did have like 40 years worth of Dragon Ball media to work with instead of like, a handful of games lol)

  • @PsychedelicPenne
    @PsychedelicPenne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love Melee, not really for its competitive gameplay (although that can be fun of course), but for its unique and weird aesthetic. As you described so aptly, its characters are sort of weird "HD" versions of their N64 appearances. My favorite is for sure Luigi, who I always affectionately refer to as "round-faced Luigi." I'd love it if you did another video like this one but explaining your ideal version of Luigi's Melee moveset based on Luigi's Mansion, but I understand a video like this is a big undertaking so it's just a pipe dream. Anyway, going back to the whole "Melee aesthetic" thing, for that reason I get a big kick out of you specifically using a Wario model that would represent his appearance at that time. I especially enjoyed seeing his model in all the extra weird poses for his special moves, and the alternate colors. Cool stuff. Cool video too! Nice work. Gave this one a like, which I don't do often.

  • @ImaT1re
    @ImaT1re 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mom: Why don't you go play with the neighbours kid?
    Neighbours kid: 15:40

    • @zachatck6567
      @zachatck6567 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow what a hilarious and NOT overused joke

    • @gamemesa
      @gamemesa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't know about you but personally I would love Wario to be my neighbor

    • @defaultio2798
      @defaultio2798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gamemesa Look outside

  • @johnrainsman6650
    @johnrainsman6650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Or redesigning/recreating certain games and levels, like romhackng?

  • @yoshidracos.a.1125
    @yoshidracos.a.1125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can also check the Wario moveset from the Super Smash Bros. 64 hack, Smash Remix, in which Wario was added into the game with a time appropriate moveset.

  • @jedisquidward
    @jedisquidward 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Perfect. I've been thinking about this exact topic recently.

  • @SpinyPuffs
    @SpinyPuffs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great ideas. Most of Smash's mainstays have very outdated or misrepresented movesets, I even made full sketches of Sonic's moveset.

  • @egesorkultay4335
    @egesorkultay4335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You kinda missed the oppurtinity to use the pot items from wl1 and vbwl but awesome moveset,this is really close to my dream wario moveset.

  • @cheek3664
    @cheek3664 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Somewhere in a alternate timeline, Wario is in Melee, Sonic is a unlock-able character in Melee, and Goku is in ultimate

  • @MCsonic537
    @MCsonic537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Then it would be the best game ever, simple.

  • @Rhino-n-Chips
    @Rhino-n-Chips 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    20:44 BOI BEYOND THICC that dumpy got me quakin. City hall gettin complaints over dat mfing dumptruck backin up

  • @NoxiousAffection
    @NoxiousAffection 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, basically, a super floaty character with good recovery and combo options, but limited kill options
    it's jigglypuff but thicc

    • @MishKoz
      @MishKoz  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wario's air speed in Project+ does make him feel like Jigglypuff on crack

  • @sotoroiguess69
    @sotoroiguess69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:21 hey they were all released on the 21st of a month, neat.

  • @Poyidoya
    @Poyidoya 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think a great victory animation would be forcing all opponents to watch 10 hours of Wario Dies ASMR videos.

  • @diegodankquixote-wry3242
    @diegodankquixote-wry3242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    23:45 Slopes are highly illegal when considering a smash stage to be Tournament legal or not

    • @MishKoz
      @MishKoz  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yoshi's Story though?

    • @diegodankquixote-wry3242
      @diegodankquixote-wry3242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MishKoz I'm not sure why yoshi island was spared by the melee community, but its the expectation that makes the rule. Almost every map with a slope was banned in 4 and ultimate

  • @Shybandicoot1518
    @Shybandicoot1518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fun fact:sakurai said himself if he added 1 more character in melee it would been wario

  • @Fi___
    @Fi___ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, that's what I call quality

  • @RaycerkGamer
    @RaycerkGamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With how you mention Rivals of Aether so much makes me think that you want someone to make this Wario for the Rivals Workshop haha

    • @MishKoz
      @MishKoz  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really, I just like Rivals

    • @defaultio2798
      @defaultio2798 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's like, 4 freaking Wario's there, one of which is based entirely off of wl4

  • @armzngunz
    @armzngunz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just wish Wario's down throw was more like the piledriver move from Wario World, where he grabs an opponent, spins abit in the air and slams into the ground with them, burying them in the ground.
    The spin throw is also a sort of reference to Wario World which I like, in Wario World you grab enemies and spin them around before throwing them.

  • @gyroh6593
    @gyroh6593 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A spot dodge followed by an attack did exist in Smash. It was one of Lucario’s custom Down B moves in Smash 4. It was definitely far more interesting than his original Down B.

  • @TheFoolish727
    @TheFoolish727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The tweak I would make to this move set would be his down throw being his ground punch From Wario Land shake it, where he would throw his opponent down, pause for a second, and slam his fist into their chest

  • @henrydynan83
    @henrydynan83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    melee but better in every possible way

  • @sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149
    @sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    15:33
    This is the ideal male body. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

  • @MariotheAnimator
    @MariotheAnimator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I gotta say I love all these moves except the Neutral B, Neutral B is meant to be an iconic move that would be fitting for Kirby to Copy. It should definitely be his Shoulder Charge. His entire series is built around it. Having said that, the forward Smash should be a huge fist, emphasizing his power over Mario and Luigi. It should also show off the W on the glove like the punchy gloves found in his castle.
    Also you forgot FTilt, which should be a belly barge. Also Down Smash would definitly change to the Shake It Ground Slam eventually.

    • @MishKoz
      @MishKoz  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are so right. Throughout my whole process making this video I was saying to myself "I've gotta think like the actual devs" but in doing so I completely glossed over the whole Kirby thing. I guess I did kind of forego that line of thinking since I literally said in the video that I wanted Neutral B to be cool and overpowered lol. In my defense though, there are a few characters (Donkey Kong, Lucas, and probably more) that have Neutral B's that they've never used in their home series, so it's not _too_ out of the question in Wario's case.
      Also tangentially related but I absolutely loved your Skull Kid video. To me it's literally the best "What if X character was in Smash" video I've ever watched just in terms of presentation alone. Not to mention it was a pretty dang perfect representation of Majora's Mask all in a single character.

    • @MariotheAnimator
      @MariotheAnimator 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MishKoz Oh I'm so glad someone actually WATCHED it lo, criminally underrated video of mine imo.
      Also DK's giant punch I'd say was done in DKC2 after he was freed from K Rool. It's also a good move to teach early players about storing a charge.
      I've actually thought about doing a video on changes I'd make to Smash, ESPECIALLY the Mario series. With Megaman being such a 1-1 recreation it's a shame Mario characters don't get that treatment.
      - Bowser's Inside Story Punch (and VOICE)
      - Mario using some power ups for normals and NO FLUDD cuz that was ONE game
      - Daisy showing her athleticism rather than being a Peach 1-1
      - PROJECT M SAMUS MY GOD

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MariotheAnimator Now a days' Donkey Kong's giant Punch looks similar to Chunky Kong's Primate Punch.

  • @unknownn274
    @unknownn274 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    for his final smash he turns into the wario apparition, any player hit by the move dies in real life.

  • @StickFiguresMaster
    @StickFiguresMaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    And the reason we won’t get master hand is because of the fact that Nintendo intended for it to only be two things, the cursor Ipoh screen that you select characters with and it also is the final boss in the main fight.
    Being able to play as master hand in melee as a discovered glitch was although cool, very weird and unlikely expected to even be a thing, we got the ability to play with master hand by glitching the lobby into getting him picked.
    To think we’d even be able to control his moves as well though if not freeze the game from loading fights was weird because that’s usually what happens to oversights in Nintendo games that Nintendo didn’t intend to make be possible and or to use, so to think that master hand could although be fought with, this was considerably cool and a heck of a find for a glitch, we basically got our wish granted and although we can’t use master hand in the newer game versions, it’s because it’d be impossible as master hand is the select a player to fight with cursor for the game and thereby there’s no reason to include the cursor as a playable character.
    If Nintendo was ever going to let master hand be playable, they may have to debug their game to make a model of master hand right off of the boss and make it be especially our character to pick when it’s going to in this case be a normal character.
    It’s like wanting to have Missingno. in Pokèmon be a character we can use and or capture without glitching Pokémon with the old man trick, it’s an oversight and the name chosen for the player has bytes in it already programmed into any name chosen and cannot be removed because it’s how it’s scripted, so if we got to choose master hand for a playable character, maybe Nintendo would be nice to give us the playability of crazy master hand or dark master hand but again that’s just speculating what could be their fair move to make to satisfy their customers.

  • @hypernova_119
    @hypernova_119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want someone to mod Wario into Melee. I'd definitely main him.

  • @robezharvey8475
    @robezharvey8475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Have not been happier to watch a 30 minute video about a character I care 0 about in a series I care 0 about as well

    • @mewa3263
      @mewa3263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I consider it a hate crime that you don't care about Wario

    • @mewa3263
      @mewa3263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How could you not care about our lord and savior 😔

  • @twinkling_topaz14
    @twinkling_topaz14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent video. I still very much wish Wario Land was represented more in Smash, especially having more Wario Land moves in his moveset. Wario Land is one of my favorite franchises, and I'd love it if more of the Macho Man Wario from those games was able to shine through some more in actual Smash games.

    • @Mr.Feather130
      @Mr.Feather130 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope in smash 6,they’ll give Wario a complete overhaul on having his moveset more based on the Wario land series

    • @gooeydude574
      @gooeydude574 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And there only ONE Wario Land song in Ultimate

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mr.Feather130 The problem with Wario Land is that the combat is not great. Wario boss fights consist of throwing stuff at the bosses, that's not enough for a Smash move-set. Although his Forward Smash and forward tilt are reference's to Wario Land 4.

    • @Mr.Feather130
      @Mr.Feather130 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@orangeslash1667 yeah but I hope both wario and Sonic had a huge complete overhaul in a Future super smash bros game (sonic moveset should be based on his combat skills in the upcoming Sonic frontiers)

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mr.Feather130 I think it would be for the best if the Next Smash would have just original characters and getting rid of everyone else. It's too hard to find a middle ground between representation and balance. If getting rid of representation will strengthen creative freedom, then so be it.

  • @YeetoTheYeetafic
    @YeetoTheYeetafic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If Wario was in Melee he'd probably replace someone like 'Ganon' as he was rushed into being Capt. Falcon clone or 'Young Link' as he's literally a Link Clone and has no references to 'Majora's Mask' also he could just be Mario with a ground pound move to replace the down special and a charging move as the for/backwards special if he's in Melee

  • @Acedafox
    @Acedafox ปีที่แล้ว

    i love this, i always wanted more wario land representation in smash, especially that stage sounds amazing

  • @femdomsHMU
    @femdomsHMU 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A skilled Wario can beat any Fox