What if Melee was the first Smash game?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ม.ค. 2023
- Even more characters. Even more stages. Revamped movesets. This build would have it all!
Learn about what would happen if Super Smash Bros. Melee was the very first Smash game, & they expressly intended to include third party characters to attract developers to create games for GameCube. #WhatIf #SSBM #Melee
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Hope you enjoyed this video! Check out part 2 and part 3:
Blessed Timeline Part 2: th-cam.com/video/bF_PGtbv9lM/w-d-xo.html
Blessed Timeline Part 3: th-cam.com/video/cKtiusZ9FLg/w-d-xo.html
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My only thought is that if they made melee as the first game and had all that time to develop I'm curious of what would have been lost due to the lack of lessons learned after having a released version like they likely learned having the original
I like how these videos showcase artists. It's amazing how accurate they are to the original style of melee
I'm glad you see it like that. I definitely want to show some of the incredible mods people have made, and it's fun to weave it into a cohesive narrative like this.
Yup
Man This universe’s version of Smash Bros Melee sounds like a gamer’s WILDEST dream come true in a Sonic CD style Good Future fashion and it’s fun to watch a “What if” scenario like this! Awesome work on the video dude! I would’ve been down for THIS version of Melee if it was a thing back then!
Thank you!!
Would be a dream for me since this would mean Earthbound 64 comes out
@@oi6915 agree
This is a mod so you could play it
I havent even watched all the way through, but I already liked it. What a way to catch a viewer's attention. Extremely well made video.
Thank you so much!!
TH-camrs at exactly 20k subs making the most banger vids ever:
This video feels so perfect. Not only does it add all these new characters, stages, music, updated adventure mode, final smashes, assist trophies, and even changes to the characters themselves to melee, but it also keeps melee’s style and could even pass as official. There’s something about seeing things from banjo kazooie, sonic, or fantasy 7 in the melee style that just feels so magical. Its like a gamer’s ultimate fantasy
I'm so glad you think so! I am a huge fan of Melee's artstyle, so presenting it this way was very important to me.
I wish that was true, Ganondorf would have his own move set throughout the franchise.
Yep!
I wonder if that would’ve even happened, considering that while Ganon had plenty of source material (at the time), Ganondorf specifically only appeared in one game (at the time)
I like the concept! A lot of fun ideas. Although I can't help but see some of it more of Project M / fandom stuff rather than what would actually be like Samus' Ice moveset for example. Still fun none-the-less. I'd love to see what you think would happen should Melee ever be remade/remastered.
Thanks Janjo! Definitely, as I stated early on in the vid, this is just for fun. My 6 months video is probably a bit closer to what *might actually* happen. A Melee remake/remaster is almost cursed timeline territory hahaha.
I like the idea of both Dr. Mario and Wario being available in this universe
👍
Super fun! I think the single most interesting "what-if" that would've really changed Nintendo’s trajectory would be if they bought Rare and put Banjo in Melee.
One of Nintendo biggest weaknesses since the Gamecube has been lack of Western output. Really wonder what sort of image Rare's continued collaboration would've done for them.
I couldn't agree more. If that happened, we'd have Donkey Kong Racing, Kameo on GameCube, Conker's Other Bad Fur Day, and a Perfect Dark sequel on GameCube. Who knows what else could have happened.
@@davidvkimball There was a really good fan timeline released with the only major changes being Nuts and bolts being on the Wii as a Banjo Kazooie remake and Conker pretty much being abandoned due to Nintendo mainly disliking the character
@@davidvkimball perhaps a Killer Instinct 3 on Gamecube?
@@DarkGekkouga Definitely a possibility!
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Nintendo disliking Conker is false tho. No idea why people keep saying this. Even in a behind the scenes video on Rare Replay, the devs behind Conker's Bad Fur Day stated that Nintendo were very on board with the project and were very lenient with its content.
While on the topic of the video, and now that I think about it, Conker would've probably been a strong contender for this version of "Melee". The character was already decently iconic and well known, was promoted a lot by Nintendo since his debut in Diddy Kong Racing to his most recent entry at the time (that being Conker's BFD), and well, Rare was one of the biggest and most acclaimed studio developers coming from Nintendo during the era, so I do think two Rare reps for this version of the first Smash Bros title is kinda plausible.
_Imagine showing this footage back in 2000's internet space._
People would have died.
Thank you David for delivering another gem.
You're so welcome. I hope you enjoy it!
That Shadow move set was PERFECT! Definitely should’ve been an actual character.
He was in Legacy XP!
My only issue is that the voice was by Jason Griffith, which wouldn't make sense at the time, but i love it regardless!
@@MARKY2428 Thanks! Yeah I should have updated it.
@@davidvkimball You're welcome!
@@davidvkimball but sad that knuckles and tails did not get in DLC maybe
They even gave Kirby the Slide Kick in this timeline... as a massive Kirby fan, that is INSANE.
That aside, this is an interesting dive into what could've been. Nice work as always!
Thank you!! Glad this timeline gave Kirby a much-needed buff.
What a timeline this would have been if this is the melee we got. Excellent work!
Thank you!!
With how many characters we got this early on in the timeline, including 3rd parties right out of the gate, I can only imagine how much more crazier the rosters of future games like Brawl would've been.
@@dataexpunged4784 Agreed
@@davidvkimball Speaking of crazy character choices...
I don't know if you've made a video about it yet, but James Bond was considered for Melee at one point, but due to being a legal nightmare to add, he was scrapped. Imagine what Smash would've looked like if he had gotten in and opened the floodgates for not just third party characters, but non-video game characters too.
@@dataexpunged4784 You should check out the other videos on my channel. :) Also, that's not entirely right. He wasn't really ever considered seriously. My video Elevated talks more about that - he was highly requested from the Smash 2 poll and a popular character, but never recognized as anything feasible.
This is amazing! I'm obsessed with the idea of what Melee could have been if it had more development time.
One thought I always had is that with the development time this game would receive, considering that Marth is voice by the same actor as the Fire Emblem OVA, maybe over in the west he would get his English dub voice which was Spike Spencer.
That's a really good point!
30:44
I personally love these What-If scenarios for gaming. One I've been wondering for a bit is "What if SEGA stayed consistent?" as a hypothetical situation where SEGA makes good internal decisions that ultimately benefit their reputation and IPs like Sonic. That makes seeing this video in my recommended tab certainly welcome! Would love to see more videos like this.
Thank you! That's a great idea.
If Super Smash Bros Melee was like this, what would Brawl, Wii U/3DS, and Ultimate be like?
Naruto would somehow make it to Brawl.
9:45 Mish Koz in his Melee wario video brought over the fact that in our timeline Wario Land 4 released months earlier than melee due to melee being delayed, so in this timeline we could've probably seen Melee and Wario land releasing at a similar date, which could probably indicate that probably Wario's Castle would have the hurry up theme from WL4 when either all fighters remaining had just 1 stock left or when there's 1 minute left to fight, similar how mushroom kingdom and Mushroom kingdom 2 work in our timeline.
Ooooo, I like this detail! Very true!
This would’ve been the greatest thing ever in video game history, and I can see many young kids or adults telling their friends who may not be into video games “This new Smash Bros Game has Sonic, Snake from Metal Gear Solid and Cloud from Final Fantasy VII and many more, you guys gotta check it out!” If I were to guess, this game would do double, triple or even more than the original Melee itself! They would’ve had more time to make Adventure Mode feel like you’re actually going through the other character’s universes, I loved that Shadow Moses section and the DKC Minecart too. Cloud is the most interesting one because Nintendo and Square created the masterpiece that is Super Mario RPG and who knows if people would still ask for Geno.
Very well said. I think you're exactly right, and this kind of thing is what inspired me to make this video.
I think you'll like the next major video I have in mind!
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You could probably make another video building off of this timeline and how the roster of Brawl would look, I could see K. Rool, Krystal and maybe Conker getting for more Rare Reps, Bomberman, Simon, and maybe Goemon for Konami Reps, Tifa, Sephiroth or Zack as an echo of Cloud since I know Square would want to push FF7 more and Crisis Core being out around the time of Brawl’s development. For more Sega Reps maybe Aiai from Super Monkey Ball, Eggman, or NiGHTS. These are all just candidates, they don’t all have to necessarily be in, I’m just throwing out ideas for this “What if” Timeline.
@@brandonwilliams6119 Great ideas!
I’m happy in our current timeline,I don’t know if we would have gotten that iconic Super Smash Bros. Commercial with the field of flowers.
Good point! I'm very happy with our timeline also.
Dude, love this video on how it originally would’ve been way back. It really goes to show what it could’ve been this whole time and I wish we had this. I really think you should make this an official game on the internet. Sakurai would’ve been very proud
Ha! I'm not sure about that
After you dropped that short a couple weeks back I’ve been eagerly awaiting this video. Glad it’s finally out, haven’t seen it yet but I know the quality you put out so I’m in for a treat. Keep it up bud!
Thank you! I hope you enjoy!
All those amazing concepts makes me wish Melee never got rushed in the first place.
Fair! But thankfully, Melee we got is still a masterpiece.
Definitely some interesting ideas here and it was a fun watch. Here are my ideas.
- I personally don’t think Shadow would’ve gotten in and would’ve stayed an assist capsule. I definitely think the priority would’ve been simply getting Sonic rather than both unless Sega requested to add him with Sonic. Remember, Sonic appearing on a Nintendo platform would’ve been a huge deal back then. People wouldn’t be jaded to it like they are today
- I really wonder if Cloud would’ve gotten in or if Square would’ve gotten in at all. Part of me feels like turn of the millennium Nintendo would’ve preferred to go with a protagonist that appeared on one of their consoles rather than one who didn’t. I feel Terra probably would’ve been added over Cloud as the Final Fantasy rep at this point and maybe Cloud would’ve joined in a later sequel. Additionally, part of me wonders if Square and Nintendo would even try to collaborate at this point or if tensions were still a bit too high
- Part of me feels that Capcom would’ve been the third 3rd party company to be represented instead of Square considering Capcom still published games for the N64. I could see Mega Man being highly considered due to the franchise appearing on every Nintendo console up to that point. I definitely think he’s more likely than Cloud. Ryu also could’ve been considered, but I feel Mega Man would’ve been chosen over him
- I think Isaac would’ve appeared as a character considering Golden Sun came out just before Melee did and it was a new Nintendo franchise. I doubt he was even thought of in our Melee’s development due to the hell that it was. However, I definitely could have seen it being considered with this much longer development time
- Animal Crossing probably would’ve gotten representation in some way. Probably not a character. I still think Sakurai wouldn’t have seen the Villagers as fighters yet. However, it likely would’ve gotten a stage like it did in Brawl
Excellent thoughts, thank you for sharing!
Maybe to sweeten the deal, Final Fantasy VII would have had an upgraded remake on GameCube that used the CG models instead of the Chibi ones with voice acting.
Good call on Isaac, Mega Man, Ryu, and Bomberman also. Makes sense to include Smashville.
Terra in Smash is the dream, ain't it?
If Tails was in the what if
I think he would have a style similar to Sonic, Samus and Fox.
Stronger spin dash as he invented it, multiple gadgets and his rocket robot as his final smash etc
and remove Lucas from Earthbound 64, because I doubt Lucas can join to Smash, because Earthbound 64 was cancelled due to the little power of Nintendo 64!
Sega requesting to add Shadow with Sonic doesn't actually seem too far fetched considering that SA2 Battle would only be a few months away from release in Japan at the time.
bro its crazy how u even find all the source material for this stuff! good job
Thank you!! It's a lot of research but it's worth it.
Another character that showed up in the Melee Trailer that isn’t playable is…
Samurai Goroh, (the part where Captain Falcon makes him crash) Jokes aside, it’s kinda interesting that Goroh was the only NPC that appeared in the Melee opening who still isn’t playable in the series yet while Wolf and Ridley eventually became playable. (Discounting all the Pokémon and the Runaway Five from Onett)
Yes, I know he’s an AT but this is in general, not Ultimate DLC.
Well also there are tons of Pokemon in the opening that aren't playable haha. Also the Runaway Five members appear. So more than just those characters.
Edit: I'm blind, you mentioned those. lol
I LOVE these kinds of videos from you. There's so much stuff that's just so enjoyable to see, and honestly using my imagination for if this were a real thing alongside the video is honestly really fun
You're the best, David
Thanks Tak!! I'm so glad you enjoyed it, seriously.
I like the improved design of the fairy bows and how true they are to the artwork!
This really makes me wonder how this would change the competitive timelines as we know it. Would we have the same Golden era? Same dark era/5 gods , etc? This changes SO many things..so cool!
Thanks!
Well one obvious thing is that Ganon would likely become obnoxious with his moveset rework
Basically k. Rool level zoning except is k rool could fly
Really awesome watch, I about lost it when I saw how stacked the character roster would be haha; and overall every addition seems to have a very fitting place :D Great work!
Thank you!! Yeah obviously it's a bit of a reach, but fun to think about nonetheless!
I really appreciate all of your videos and was especially delighted by the hypothetical historical approach you took not just at the beginning but throughout as you introduced characters. Also, the design at 24:56 is actually Snake's MGS1 suit (His current design in Smash is his MGS2 suit), but someone else has likely mentioned that by now.
Yes, someone has! Thank you for clarifying though, and I'm glad you enjoyed my approach. Cheers!
This community never ceases to amaze me. It’s insane the level of love put into this mod! Good work guys!!!
Agreed! The video description covers all of the different mods used if you're curious.
Been looking everywhere for the Codename Melee Deluxe mod. Thanks for including it in the description.
You're welcome!
This was amazing. I felt so immersed throughout the whole video.
Thank you so much!
I love the "what if" videos. It's interesting to see a lot of different Smash mods to represent your ideas. Great video!
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it. There's so many cool mods out there, it's crazy they aren't being showcased more.
@@davidvkimball Yeah espcially Melee mods but you've bought some into the spotlight which I appreicaite.
Giving Luigi his own voice is already a massive improvement over the actual game. They were just lazy reusing Mario's voice.
This is such an amazing video! I absolutely love the amount of effort that went it into this and man it's just so cool that you brought this fictional concept to life! Keep up the great work I hope you receive more attention!
Thanks so much!
Just discovered your channel with this video, I’m amazed! Great video, I didn’t want it to end lol! Definitely made me imagine once again what could have been, especially if Nintendo had purchased Rare.
Maybe something along the lines of: Banjo-Threeie, Diddy Kong Racing 2, Conkers Other Bad Fur Day, Perfect Dark 2, a proper Goldeneye sequel.. the possibilities are endless. Wow.
Agreed. Donkey Kong Racing would have happened, Conker's Other Bad Day, Perfect Dark 2, Kameo on GameCube and others for sure. Not sure about Threeie but it could have been.
Maybe in an Alternate ALTERNATE Universe, Tetsuya Nomura, Akira Toriyama, Masashi Kishimoto, Eichiro Oda, AND Koyoharu Gotouge would have been requesting Sakurai for their characters in smash
True!
@@davidvkimball I’m not sure about the one’s coming after melee’s release tho
Togashi, Araki, heck the Itagakis
This was certainly worth the wait David. You knocked it out of the park. Now we just need to find a way to actually travel to this universe so we can play this…
Thank you!! I'm so glad you enjoyed it. Honestly getting engaged, starting a new job, getting married, and adjusting to a new life with a pet as well caused quite a few delays. But I'm glad to finally have it done.
I barely watched the first 30 seconds of the video and I already loved it! I will update this comment when I finish watching the video, but if I have something to say It is that the effort and dedication you put into the video is very noticeable, keep it up!
Thank you, I look forward to your updated comment!
You still didn’t update it.
@@quangamershyguyyz7166 they’re still watching it
Incredible production value!! Love seeing this type of content 🫡
Thank you Joshua! I'm so glad you enjoyed it.
This video is amazing. It would be crazy to have this version of Melee. I love the ideas in this, though I did have a few thoughts.
- I feel like Shadow would have more moves from Sonic to make him more of a semi-clone. The Legacy XP moveset for him is nice, but I think he’d have more moves from Sonic like Forward Air, Back Air, and a few other moves.
- A fully decloned Ganon would be amazing, but I feel like he would still use some stuff from Falcon. Like maybe his dash attack could still be Falcon’s but edited to where he’s still floating while doing the shoulder bash.
- I’m not sure if they’d include stuff like DK’s aerial Down B, Samus’s Ice Beam, or Kirby’s grounded Down B. Maybe Kirby’s slide could be made into a down tilt.
- If this version of Melee did exist in our timeline with no other changes to other games, I’m not sure if they’d add Lucas since Earthbound 64 would be canceled. Maybe Ayumi could be added as a Zelda semi-clone similar to the 6 months video to replace Lucas if Earthbound 64 was still canceled.
- Just a thought, but looking at the “If there was a Smash 2” poll, Crash Bandicoot was a popular request for 3rd Parties, even being higher than Sonic and Megaman. So I wonder if Shadow was kept as an assist trophy, would Sakurai would talk to Universal Interactive about possibly adding Crash to Smash.
Sorry for the long comment. Still a really amazing video. Would absolutely love to see a sequel video for Brawl in this hypothetical timeline.
Thank you for your thoughts!! Comment is appreciated.
Tbf this scenario specifically says EarthBound 64 managed to release
YES! First video of the year. It's been a long time since the last video, plus I love this type of "what if?" videos.
Thank you, Juan! More to come.
So glad I caught this video; I randomly scrolled through my Subscriptions tab and saw it. Great stuff man!
Thank you!! I'm glad you saw it as well.
@@davidvkimball - I was hyped for it since you posted on Twitter about it. Thanks again.
Dope video! Would love to see you go in-depth on the new adventure mode. I can only imagine how an upgraded Brawl or Ultimate would look with this as the base
Thank you! I recommend you check out my "6 months" video, where I go more in-depth on the Adventure mode!
Great video, I like imagining these scenarios for what if Melee was bigger and better
Yay, glad you do!
Tifa, Aerith, Barret and Sephiroth: Hey Cloud. Can we join?
Cloud Strife: Ask the Red plumber.
Mario the mushroom hero: (Symbol with thumb up).
Cloud's friends and Sephiroth: :)
:O
@@davidvkimball Yep this reactions.
THIS NEEDS MORE VIEWS!! Amazing work
Thank you!
It's weird seeing that version of Bowser's Castle haha. That is the original design we were going to go for with PM, but then when I joined the team we got new concept art made and I revamped it to what is in PM 3.6 It's funny to see this version use a bunch of my assets, along with the older stuff, and some new things tossed in as well. Love it. @ 8:42
Yeah! That version of Bowser's Castle was assets from StarWaffle if I recall correctly. DukeItOut and I and a few others worked on a version of it that appeared in Legacy TE, and this version was modified by CrashWaffleCat to mimick the N64 era better. Thanks for your comment man! Your work is amazing.
Man now I really wanna play this. Great video David
Thank you!
18:46 I love how the Super Wavedash for Samus still exists in this alternate timeline. Amazing video!
Thank you!
Love the Ganondorf and Shadow movesets. Both of their respective franchises are due for more fighters. LOZ has 6 reps but half of them are link variants and then Ganondorf who is still trying to recover from being a Captain Falcon clone. It’s criminal how the sonic franchise has yet to get a 2nd rep. Tails, knuckles, shadow, and eggman are all right there. If there’s a smash 6 I hope those two franchises get more love.
Very likely to happen
These videos always have such a comforting vibe, no different here LOL
Thank you! I haven't received that feedback before, I appreciate you sharing it.
I feel like Cloud wouldn’t make it into Melee until Brawl, but even that game would’ve had a Black Mage to celebrate Final Fantasy’s 20th Anniversary.
Fair!
This game would probably be the biggest selling game of all time
This is so meticuously well thought out it makes me wanna visit this blessed timeline, its like a Smash Remix sequel. All the alternate movesets and characer animation are really good, Ganondorf especially, even if I have my own ideas for certain character moves. I hope theres a part 2 that goes into the single player modes and other expansins to the game.
Yay! I'll make more in the blessed timeline series.
Truly the blessed timeline! Its fun to think how different my life would be if this version came out instead
Thanks Kirbeast! I'm glad you think so, too!
This was awesome, hopefully one day we get a mod that is able to combine all of the stuff we saw in the video today
Thank you! I hope so also.
Man, I'd love to play this alternative universe version of Melee.
What more could you want, it doesn't get more complete than this.
That Ganondorf is SO EPIC!!!!! This is SO WELL DONE my friend!!!
Glad you enjoyed the vid!
I do think in this timeline it'd be weird if Capcom didn't have a fighter given they had an exclusive contract to make games for the Gamecube (Even if RE 4 didn't stay exclusive to the gamecube long)
Leon from Resident Evil, Megaman, Zero, or Ryu would make the most sense.
Oooo that's an interesting idea.
This man travel to a different universe to bring us gold and then make a video out of it, amazing work as always
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it. 😊
This is a great video, but I think one more 3rd party character would be great, which is Bomberman. The reason why is since Hudson had been making mario partys 1-3, and those were very successful, so at the time, they were in a great relationship, so adding bombemran to melee by request of Hudson could happen (just like yuji Naka wanted sonic in melee). This is just an idea, since I would saw him as more likely than Cloud strife.
If there was there was a version of Super Smash Bros. Brawl that came from the same universe as this version of Melee, I think it would still have most of the characters we got such as Zero Suit Samus & Lucario, but it would've included more newcomers such as Takamaru from the Mysterious Murasame Castle, Mach Rider, Waluigi, Geno from Super Mario RPG, KOS-MOS from Xenosaga, Pac-Man, Raiden from MGS4, & Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden.
Great points! I have a video about the sequel to this game you should check out.
Sprout Tower looks so sick!!
Yeah it's one of my favorite Melee mods!
Phew!!! Shadow is EPIC TOO!!! And that stage!!! 😱😎🙌🏽✨✨✨💯
Yeah the modders did a great job!
YO LETS GO! The most hype vid of 2023 finally it’s here and it awesome keep up the great work ❤.
Thank you!!
Well you certainly blessed my time line, amazing video :)
Thank you!!
One of the best fighting games that never was. I'd imagine from the cover of the game itself people would've lost it especially considering it would be Nintendo's first fighting game with third party characters and amazing gameplay! Truly wish we got this version instead!
Thanks for the comment :D
This is such a good representation of what could have been. The only things I wish had been done differently would be if Isaac from Golden Sun and Mega Man were playable. Then this version would feel complete. (at least, as complete as it can realistically be. There are other characters but all of them either didn't exist back then, are from an already established 3rd party company or had circumstances working against them)
Might have to wait for a sequel video!
Realistically even in this blessed version golden sun in general is way to niche
God, I love this video! I really like how all the characters and stages seem to fit in the style of melee so beautifully. If their was one thing I disagree with though, would be Sonic’s Moveset. I feel like he’d have attacks based of Sonic Battle and Sonic Adventure 2 like Shadow. For example down tilt being the flaming spin dash from SA2 or foward air being sonic eagle, and hell even down air being the bounce attack. But overall awesome video
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
This looks awsome! I wish this was a complete mod to play it, but i know this would take a lot of time
Imagine a traditional fighting game character like Ryu in Melee
Definitely could have happened!
@@davidvkimball the question would be " To auto turn or not to auto turn?" Like in Ultimate
And Ken would be his semi clone
@@kirillheroes98 or Akuma and if you want to have 2 original characters, Chun-Li or Dictator Bison/Vega
@@WW91_SF6 Oh gosh. Yeah I can't stand that mechanic lol
From the looks of it, we'd be fighting Ganon at the end of Adventure mode and not Master Hand...
Adventure Mode would still be Bowser, but a branching path might lead to Ganondorf instead. Classic mode or "Arcade mode" would lead to Master Hand.
Definitely a really good concept of what Melee could've been like if it was never rushed and incomplete
if Melee is still so beloved to this day, IMAGINE what something like this would've done for the game. It's so cool to see ideas brought to life like this.
Thanks!
I think it would make sense Shadow to be replaced with a Namco character like Pac-Man because when they add third party characters he would be a top contender and miyamoto might request it because it’s one of his favorite games
Agreed!
One thing you forgot, James Bond.
Guess you'll have to wait for the sequel.
No no-videogame characters allowed
3:47 but the meta techniques were made by rushed rushed deveolpment so sakurai putting in those techniques for advanced players was a really cool detail so the meta could still exist in this universe with much more room for innovation with the increased roster
Such a great concept for a video! Well done! You've got a new subscriber.
Thank you!!
"Olimar would use his Pikmin voice and sound fx since Pikmine would be launching around the same time as Melee"
... but didn't Luigi still use a high pitched Mario voice despite Luigi's Mansion doing the same? Which had been in development since at least Paper Mario's time.
It's a good point to raise, but honestly Luigi's voice was all over the place. In Mario Tennis for example, it's much lower pitched. In Mario Party, it's higher pitched. But these clips are from pre-2001 Luigi.
The attention to detail is astonishing. I already love this version of melee/64(?) and hope it becomes a full mid or fan hack soon!
Thanks, Andy. It might be possible eventually!
This idea is so cool and would make it the ultimate Smash game before Smash Ultimate was a thing.
Thanks!
1:12 All I saw gleaming thru that traveling wall of text was
“Kirby doesn’t suck”
I’m in
I hope Kamek gets into the next game, it's rare to see any fan project acknowledge him, so it would be a treat.
That's a great idea!
What if smash bros was able to use content from ANYWHERE, copyrighted or not?
Oh man, that would certainly be a wacky time. hahaha
This roster looks amazing! Characters fit within the time Melee was released, not too saturated with guest characters, and the designs are great!
1. Great vid 2. Since Smash ultimate dlc ended and all i been looking for smash content.Omg im watch and it feel weird to see those animations or whatever on theres moves well and the spirit/characters.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love this! Though I wish Wario used his many powerups from WarioLand primarily the hat ones since they’re super unique and wacky and a big part of the game
That's a great point!
Not gonna lie, I was born in the year 2000, Super Smash Bros. Melee was the very first Smash game that I played in my entire life, and I never knew that Smash 64 existed until Brawl was just about to be released.
Wow, lol.
I always thought Melee WAS the first game until I discovered the N64 version when I was like 15 🤣🤣🤣
Are you serious lol
My question in this hypothetical TL is if the music for the 3rd party characters would've been done in-(Hal)se, or let their native series musicians handled it.
Great question. Probably done by HAL. Ando, Sakai, etc.
This video is amazing my guy!! If this game was real, it would've been the smash bros ultimate before smash bros ultimate existed.
Thank you!
i would hate fighting against some of these characters but it would be worth it to fight on crazy gadget
SA2 stage would be so sick. Which characters would you hate to fight against?
Another banger! Great video David
Thanks Julian! ♥
14:12 with this moveset ganondorf would be top tier
Would be a dream game! A different future for Smash and well I love Melee as is, this would be amazing!
Maybe we'd even get James bond in this future.
I love it!
Thank you!!
I feel like Sakurai would still stick to the "only video games" route. However that leaves us Joanna Dark
Awesome! I love Super Smash Bros Melee. It's the most classic game ever!
Thank you! So glad you enjoyed it!!
I can imagine how Brawl and SSB4 and Smash Ultimate would alter if that happens..........
Posted: 6:23 PM EST Friday March 24th 2023.