2 UP on an Africa Twin - Will she like it?
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- G'day guys, I take Nay out on the 2018 Honda Africa Twin for a bit of 2 Up riding around to see what she thinks of it. Big Thank You to Mat for lending me his bike! Hope you enjoy :-) Cheers... Mark
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Nay deserves a medal. I wouldn’t want to be the pillion with you doing all that nasty single track.
Yep - DIY mods for Nay’s seat! Can’t wait to see the arrival of your new AT into the BB Stable! Nice reviews mate.
So, change the pillion helmet to a helmet without a peek, so then the passenger can hold on to you, no helmet bumping. Been doing it for years, it helps a bit, love your channel. Cheers.
Man...I wish my wife was so graceful getting on the back of a bike.
Thanks so much for that Mark. It's so hard to find any comprehensive two up reviews. The fact its on the bike we are considering is even better.
Sounds promising Mark! Looks like an AT might be heading your way... Hope it all goes well and you get to enjoy an awesome bike soon mate. Well done Nay for hanging off the back for a blast, I know it can be nerve wracking but you have a good bloke there who's putting your comfort and safety first...
Nee's bouncing off the seat can be corrwcteded with suspension rebound and compression adjustments 👍
Gidday guys , thank you so much for that i dont think ive ever seen a pillion passanger talk about how a bike feels , please do this to as many bikes as you can you should make it a special interest video because there are a lot of people out there that want to know about this topic .
And the way you guys are honest about everything makes it a winning combination, keep up the great work looking forward to the BMW gs 1200 pillion ride .
Bloody great video thank you so much .
Good review Mark, with the proper suspension set up for two people and a bit of gear, they are a great bike. My tiger 800 is also a great all round bike for two up and solo adventure riding. These bikes do everything quite well.
Well That sounds like a positive review for a potential new addition to the Biker Bits Garage!
Poor Nay the test person did a great job. Interesting experiment to go off-road. Really enjoyed these videos. The sound of that beast is so good.
Yep as the guys said. A few suspension tweeks for two up will make a huge difference to the bouncy bouncy. My wife felt on one road trip she was being bounced off the seat cornering on a road ride. Few tweaks later same road no issues.. Turns out she's not a big fan of wheelies either 🙄
Thank you Mark and Nay.
I hve just commited to a 2022 DCT AdventureSport. My wife is 6"2 and I am looikng for something comfortabe for both of us.in all environments.
So gratefull for your honest feedback.
Thankyou.
Awesome video mate it's good to see what it can do and the suspension is set up for a big guy like myself you could play with all the clickers and set it up a lot better
I think others have already said it but back shock has 35/37 clicks adjustment so play around with that for a passenger. Great bit of kit ! I have the DCT which brings it up another level but thats just my opinion ! Stay safe ...from Scotland !
Hi Mark and Nay, great stuff. As noted in other comments, adjustments to the rear compression/ rebound may go some way to reducing the 'bounce' effect for the pillion. Looking forward to new adventures on the AT. Ride safe, cheers.
Hi Mark & Ney
Boy looks good sounds great different setup to Harry.
Look forward to what you good to sort out any problems
Thanks very much Cheers
The handling would of been even better if you had increased the rear preload to compensate for the passenger and added a good bit more damping on the rear shock to control the extra weight and therefore stop the over bounce.
The boss (ney) has approved getting the new bike! Expect to see it soon mark .
Great vid good review
G’day Mark & Nay, they are an amazing bike the AT, & great value for money, & probably serve as better bike all round that good replace Harry, & be good fit you & Nay, Now time to weigh up the oro & con’s & maybe a new steed in the stable, cheers Mick
Sounds promising with the addition of a topbox, especially one with a pillion pad on the front. Alternative wildcard, add an extra wheel and try a Ural sidecar rig :D They even make the 2WD models in a left-hand-tub configuration to suit our UK and your Aus markets as of I think 2020.
Thanks N & M Interesting to listen to the engine at such low revs ... effortless torque ! You have me looking at Bikesales, again ..
PS Don't worry about what anyone thinks .. if you'd like one, GO GET IT !
The way you're talking, sounds like an Africa twin is coming to the stable.
Like people have said in the comments, tweak the suspension and add a hard top case with a back pad👌🏻 I made those changes on my KTM adv and my wife loves the set up 👍🏻 its hard to get away for a solo spin now😉😂
Anyway great video and insights Mark, and good on you for your consideration of Nay. Cheers!
Top box with the back pad is a must !
I was Looking for an Apocalypse Bike,this would be it, the NC750 is outta the Question.I need that power, especially if I end up with a Phat Bya, hi from L.A. 😅
Nay is a good sport. My gal loves the big Harley Tourer but she hasn’t expressed any desire in riding the Pan America.
Pleasant to the Eye, Sweet sound to the Ear, Japanese, Plenty of snot, Comfy, It floats your boat, And most important Nay feels secure. It's ticking ALL the boxes.
Loved hearing Nay's comments at the end. Check out dynamic motorcycle accessories for their rear rack and pillion backrest for the AT. Nay would like it!
I love the sound of that Africa Twin!
Time to go shopping !!! Nay stamp of approval!!!! Like others said, I would go DCT... prevents that clutch fwd motion for Nay.
Great video mark love to see you take nay out on a v Strom 650 xt best stock saet i ever had and Great two up my v Strom 1050 xt that I own at the moment would be like the Honda
Cheers 🍻
I still love the sound of that bike!
Yeah...informative content! Thanks.
Very good review on the AT Mark I am also buying one ☝️
Good advise mate , we did three months around uk,Scotland,isle of Man and Ireland .on 2012 Vstrom 650
Tr Nay holding on your shoulder when riding, I Think that she would be pleasantly surprised, cheers
Get the cushioned back box
I tried a little green Lane riding but it didn’t end well with me falling off took a while to heal bike was fine but muddy needed a new mirror and handlebars but after that I decided I was too old and stiff to try off road again however the Africa Twin Dct makes a fantastic road bike and country Lane ride I managed to get the OEM luggage for half price from Newcastle Honda and I’m back loving my riding there fantastic two up nice reviews mate 👍👍🇬🇧
Mark, The problem with a top box is you tend to put a lot of stuff in it. The riding you prefer now is off road.
The AT is a heavy bike so if you drop it ( that is when not if ) you will find it very hard to pick up without taking the top box off. That is the reason I suggested a back rest for Nay instead of a top box.
Very good point! 👍
Possibly tuning the suspension to help the bounce issue . They also make a backrest that connects to a hard bag for that bike.
I'm glad you are doing this,I'm in the same boat I currently have a Honda St1300 for 6yrs now & I recently purchased a 2014 660 Tenere 6mths ago, the Tenere is ok for some I'm finding it average unless I throw a couple of grand in for the suspension upgrade it be going up for sale soon . The ST is great bike for two up all day with a good range on fuel, but I love my outback dirt roads. I love the sound of the Africa twin. The T7 is out of my price range,I love the old Lc4 ktm 640 but would love a ride on the adventure spec 690. The Africa twin is already there ready to go !!!
It is surprising how many people don't set up the bike for what they are using it for, even simple things like setting up the brake/clutch levers for better ergonomics for the rider can make a big difference. What do most people do when they get into a car move the seat, adjust the wheel, and mirrors.
Hi Mark & Nay, great video! Being a passenger is a totally different experience. The back end sure looks high. It's pretty great of Mat to have let you try it out like this! *T4S*
Yeah he's a top bloke for sure! 👍
Awesome sounding rumbling exhaust, I'd love an AT. Rob from Nth Bendigo
Really nice 👌 and great 👍 video.
I have same bike blue 2019
I purchased the Yamaha super tenere xt1200ze as a 2 up tourer over the Africa twin as it was better for the missus on the back.
Suspension adjustable on the fly, preload and damping.
Rear seat is flatter than the Africa twin.
Low center of gravity, (awesome 2 up with luggage through the Grampians)
As a side note, comes with the nice for touring gadgets, cruise and heated grips.
Easy for me to touch the ground both feet.
If i was looking for a 1 up tourer it would have been the Africa twin though.
Pillon Air Hawk , Good atitude Great Motorcycilst top effort
It's a done deal 👍👍👍👍👍👍 😁
Had a 94 AfricaTwin and I do miss it
Great vid as usual. I am selling my GSA for a shorter seat hieght but still ADV and looking at the Tiger and AT. My wife rides pillion sometimes as well sonthisbis a major consideration for us.
So did you buy one? Any follow up? Did a quick look in your vids but don't see a follow up.
Good stuff , that bike would of certainly made the cooper pedy trip a whole lot different. Cheers
Fire sure Tex! 😀
Hey mark may i make a suggestion that u try the dct automatic version of the africa twin i think this would be ideal for what u want
Guess a black one soon take Harry's place next to max😊. A good topbox and some panniers on the bike and she will have a nice place to be at back there. Works a treat for my wife on my tiger 800. ☕ Exciting development.
Sorry to say Mark but Nay is not really into the bikes. She never wanted the Virago or Whiskey, she obviously doesn't like the dirt riding that much but will ride the postie when she has to. I think she rides the bikes for you not because she wants it. If you didn't like bikes she would not make the suggestion and that is what tells the truth. My girl friend is the same. My point is, the bike is for you so you should make the decision and even Nay said that. Even when you ride Harry you take it on the dirt regularly and it is just not made for that. The seals, the suspension, the frame is not made for working in dust and corrugations. The Africa Twin suits your needs much more than Harry. So sell Harry and sell Whisky and buy the AT, you and we know you want to. Besides, that bike sounds so good and selling the others will be so much easier to do knowing what you will be getting. Just do it!
Those colors of the Africa twin are just drop dead gorgeous. Prettier to me than the Yamaha. Although the Yamaha is pretty as well.
You and Nay look good together on the Africa twin. A top box with a seat back pad for her back. Off-road goldwing... Surely you guys have gold wings down under?
Your Texas mate
Yep we do! 👍
Go on Mark, you know you want one 😎😎.?
Recently got a CRF300L Rally and my wife has been asking me to take her on rides on backroads and dinner dates. Been thinking about selling my car and getting at 2020+ AT Adventure Sports SE so we can have a bike that can take us on longer trips since she seems to like that more than overlanding. We can compromise with an ADV bike and stay at hotels or AIR BNBs.
Hi Mark, You may remember I had a Boulevard exactly the same as yours. I traded it in over three years ago on a VStrom 650 XT.
One of the main reasons I got rid of the Boulevard is no ABS and no Traction control. Believe me , when you need ABS YOU NEED IT.
The AT is a beautiful bike, both you and Nay will be much safer on the AT.
Could you put a back rest similar to the one on the Boulevard on the AT.
I also agree that adjustment to the rear shock will remove the " bounce".
A top box with a pad would do the job!
Decision made? 👍🤣
So the boss has given you the nod Mark. Operation Africa Twin Purchase begins. As an owner my only advice is a 2020 and 2021 model are a better overall bike than the 2018 and come in Black Edition models. One thing I have noticed watching you is just how expensive everything is in Australia compared to here in the UK. I bought my 2020 with only 978 kms on the clock for £10,000 which would have been about 18,000 Aus Dollars. I see my purchase as a great deal but I see buying in Aus Dollars as expensive. Why is stuff so dear in Australia. You also noted previously about the Twin being expensive after a fall to fix. I have had some pretty tasty offs but with the impact bars around the bike all I have ever had to replace was a front fender and that was not a crash but my dog chasing a cat. All I can say Mark is if you do get one get 2018 or newer as there is a world of difference in all performance of the bikes as in the 2020 and 2021 models are a step up again. I am no Tony Bou but my Twin has had some serious off road and bar the fender its been routine service and new back pads chain and sprockets and thats it. Interesting vid as well good to see Nay out joining you and enjoying the experience.
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And that they are built to be used, stuff happens.
Was surprised thought for sure she would of felt better on the cruiser as wow that is sitting up real high, we have our touring road cruiser my wife would never give up her big road sofa with speakers drink holder and floorboards 🤣 just wondering going down the highway at higher speeds how the wind and buffeting would be sitting up so high? Looks like the bike didn't even know she was back there tho 👍
Hello Mark and Naomi so good to see you both....To make the Honda feel more secure for Nay...a Top Box! That will act as a back rest and allow you to carry stuff, I have one on my Tiger 900Gt and it works a treat.....thanks for sharing, No comparison between Harry and the Honda...very different bikes...LOL.....great information and sharing on this..... Go on Mark...time to change..... The Honda....
Next time around just buckle Nays seatbelt, no bouncy bouncy. Sorted. 👍🏼 😎 🇺🇸 🌎
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Ps on my Crf1000L DCT I have a Givi V47 Topcase my pillion says makes the difference in comfort and security on bike
Mate I have a rear rack with panning that I used to use for my wife when she used to come on the back of my Triumph Tiger , 955, 800 and 1050 sport . It made her feel VERY safe . Will send you a few photos or ideas 💡.
Cool Bananas! 👍
Corbin seats makes a back rest for Pillion seats.
Get Nay on the back of a Gs1250 and she will say go and buy one now, most comfortable bike I have ever ridden
Nay should get her own bike just like Nat and Josh!
What exhaust?? This is one of the best sounding ATs!
Mark … my fav videos are the mass bike and camp trips with your mates … May I ask ? When is the next one ?
It's hard to know in these current times!
Looks like you have Nay's sign of approval, now before she changes her mind go and put a deposit on one. 😆 🤣 😂
Sweet bike, sweet lady.. Enjoy
Damn wives and their insistence on top boxes, even when nipping down the road. :-) Next step is to learn standing 2 up off-road, makes a huge difference, importance is learning to spoon together when doing so, we've found if misses places one hand under your arm against your chest and the other on top of your shoulder she has lots more support and control. Suspension set-up is also important.
Once you put a hard box on the back it will be a game changer for Na. Btw she is super sweet.
Do you still need to adjust the chain with having a passenger on the back or is there a few buttons to press to adjust the suspension?
Not sure mate!
My 2 bits is you're crazy if you don't take Nay on the back of a GS before you make a decision
Wicked
How about the new 2020 suzuki vstrom 1050xt
I always felt that pillion seat was too forward inclined on africa twin. I doubt if it is comfortable on long rides. In my view rear seat shud b parallel to the ground or only very slightly forward inclined. But this seems to b the case with all adventure tourer bikes.
Life's too short to be messing around, if you can afford to get it, get it
You sounded so disappointed when nah said she wasn’t liking it but glad you and bike won her over it will make a mahosive difference with a back box as Pete would say it will be a game changer
Tmf?
Would be cool if you could get a trunk with a pad for pillion
Nice bike but I’ll stick with the DR650 I can work on that bike myself.
Cool, does the AT come with dynamic shocks? On the GS I can dial in single rider, single rider with luggage, pillion and pillion with luggage, makes the world of difference to the ride. Still, height of the pillion can be an issue (for the pillion) particularly in wind. Nay might miss that big screen on Harry.
Most do the same thing with preload adjustment.
@@wobblysauce for sure, just wondering if the AT has a switch to do it rapidly or not. I love that AT though, what a package..
Yes, just takes a few seconds with your left thumb to pick the... Solo, Solo luggage, Two-up, Two-up luggage.
"The CRF1100 Africa Twin Adventure Sports ES features four preload settings which automatically adjust the suspension electronically."
Nae needs more time on the bike and relax a heap more. Can see the tension. Takes a bit to learn to just go with it and let you balance the bike and her.
Try some more rebound on the rear, shouldn’t be bouncing.
Good luck.
Someone's in the market for an AT !!!!
I have the option to buy
Africa crf1100L 2022
And I am wondering as to how good is that suspension ride in comparison with your model.
I meed something which I can ride for 3 hours without taking a break.
Friend has 1250gs which is bloody comfy
And if it weren't for Honda dct
Then I wud have bought the BMW gs
Don't know... Sorry!
Curious to know how tall she is? my wife's 5'8"-5'9" and cant stand a ride longer than about 45 minutes on my Yamaha Bolt R spec because the foot pegs have her knees above her hips. You're lady looks pretty stretched out and comfy on this bike!
Might have to sell Harry off to make room in the garage for the AT.
Top Box is the go for pillion, my wife feels a lot more secure with it on
how often do you get punctures with these tubed tyres?
Not very often!
This is something ive done a bit of. Pillion shouldnt bounce. You are overwhelming the shock. Add rebound damping at least when you have a pillion. Also a top box with a pad is needed.
Would it be less likely to bash helmets with the DCT gear box?
Possibly! 😀
What is your combined weight 2up on the bike?
Roughly 145kg
As I understand it, pillion refers to the seat, not the person sitting in it.
Good to know! 😀
calls his wife mate, what a guy
It's an ok, dun deal ...😉
I think that bike is perfect for your long dirt roads but if I was going out to have some fun in the gnarly bits I definitely wouldn't have a pillion.
Just like me, you'll do anything you can to make your wife comfortable and happy.
On a different subject I noticed your road positioning on the twisties, I've been taking the same lines for 40 years.
Recently I watched a video with the British police and they took a different line to what we take.
They basically said "Keep away from the centre line, especially on the blind bends, because if some dick comes in too hot from the opposite direction, you're toast".
I've now started to take the same lines as the police, it definitely takes a lot of thought, but have a look at this video and see the difference.
th-cam.com/video/-8UN80aHE6A/w-d-xo.html
Hey. How tall is she ? We are also a couple looking to buy an Africa twin.
5'6