Turning Metteton Neo into a real boss fight part 4: New Music, new attacks and fixing some jank
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- Cleaned up the older attacks a bit and changed some sprites to make the default attacks from vulkin feel more in place in Mettaton Neos fight, added some more new attacks and a new song to replace Power of Neo.
Song: Power of NEO + TRUE POWER OF NEO by RavenJess27
link to RavenJess27s channel / @ravenjess27utarchive
link to TRUE POWER OF NEO • [LATE BIRTHDAY SPECIAL...
Here's a link to this build of the mod if anyone wants to try it out
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And Here's a link the most UpToDate version of this mod
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And this is a link to a standalone version of the Mettaton Neo fight separate from the rebalance mod
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Song Power of NEO + TRUE POWER OF NEO by RavenJess27 here's links to both their channel and the original video if you want to check them out.
link to RavenJess27s channel www.youtube.com/@RavenJess27
link to TRUE POWER OF NEO th-cam.com/video/5Jpue0F7P9w/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=RavenJess27
Additionally, Here's a link to this build of the mod if anyone wants to try it out
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1XA0qD2OmV3qKO7yOaTRzaWj-6i4rlztF?usp=sharing
Here's a more up to date version
drive.google.com/drive/folders/13nAoFXvF7qMA3lp0avpQ3nKRZIhMQ3Fc?usp=sharing
And here's a standalone version of the Mettaton Neo fight separate from the rebalance mod
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ym9h9dss8bOOAoctO4N0qzeo5C_Qp_C-?usp=sharing
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If you ever need some inspiration
th-cam.com/video/MiYdBScL5e8/w-d-xo.html
Add more dialogue and flavor text
hey dude, mind if we talk?
@@carst0128 Sure
I like how it introduces the attack with sparks floating down first, and then every other time after, he starts shooting at you halfway through as if he intended to catch you offguard
I sort of like to imagine he knows he'll lose and is just trying to get you to burn through as many healing items as he can to give anyone else remaining a fighting chance
A certain skeleton would be hell if that went to his plan
Now this is what everyone would’ve wanted for an actual fight. I hope this gets famous fast. Otherwise, I’m questioning logic on why low effort memes get more famous than this.
Because of mass appeal
Instant gratification runs people’s lives these days.
It's literally the internet's/algorithm's one and only tendency
Toby Fox should’ve done this TBH. He decided not to though because the next boss, Sans is already hard AF.
@@jason256-8 i think the reason was he only wanted to make one more genocide boss, and he had to pick between sans and mettaton, and just chose sans
Really love this so far! One suggestion I have: the part where Mettaton's feet kick out like Undyne's spears could possibly be changed to feel more like a kick, flashing red a few times in the area where the kick will happen and then the leg flies out really fast. The speed at which this occurs could get faster throughout the fight, too.
Unfortunately I'm a pretty mediocre coder, it took me an entire day just to get that attack working properly, and I would of made them faster except I made them too long and when it moved faster than the second time (which is faster than the first) I ran into a problem where they became unavoidable since the ones that have spawned will still be passing by when new ones spawn which creates a wall that forces you into a corner and you inevitably get hit. I can fix this by making them shorter so they can fire faster but I'm not too sure about the flashing red since their set to fire at where ever your soul is and I don't think Undertales standard warning box would properly convey the direction of one these attacks since their set to spawn from every direction, I could give it a crack though.
@@tigertank1819 i think you can ask somebody for help? But that main problem is who exactly. Because sadly i don't know any people who could help you and also i don't know how to script at all
@@tigertank1819 just go to r/undermodders for help
This is spectacular. I was so disappointed to find out that my favourite character would just be a one-hit kill when I was just so excited to fight him in gen.
Same, my dude
If anything, it’s a show of how powerful you’ve gotten at this point of genocide in undertale. It’s not that Mettaton was weak, it’s more that you were overpowered.
It's true that the NEO form was unstable probably bc of the coexisting box and EX forms tho
@@grubly9372 Genocide attacks are ridiculous as to how high they go against the main characters the further you go into the run. At the start you deal around 2k damage to Toriel, Mettaton NEO gets hit by a 40k damage attack, Sans gets hit by a 9 million damage attack, and by the end you deal 9 trillion damage to Asgore, which doesn't immediately kill him, only knock him down to his knees until Flowey finishes him off.
Talk about overkill.
@@Nyxael5845 whats the damage for sans?
something for the dialogue maybe
after a few turns, maybe make the text box say "Stage lights are blaring..." with the periods
additionally, maybe add something like "Mettaton NEO is sparking." or "Mettaton NEO looks like he'll fall apart any second now." when he's low
Or make him say "Did you know neo is famous for its high defence" spamton neo reference
@@allgamer3679 when you 1st attack him, he could say this
* Darling, why so shocked?
* Don't you know NEO is famous for its high defense?
This is amazing, one thing I'd like to add is that since he doesn't talk, when you eat the MTT brand food he should say something along the lines of, "I hope you choke on it." and when you eat the instant noodles his ATK should rise
And there should actually be a chance that when you choke on it you would lose about 10-20 hp
In this universe, a powerful warrior with years of training couldn't kill the human, but the sexy robot actor thing could.
Try giving him some fight dialogue like “alphys was right about the evacuation thing” or “I’m the only hero the underground has left!”
Or
"You think that you'll kill me with one hit?"
"NEO is famous by it's hight defense"
*Mettaton NEO transforms part of his attack into defence!
Mettaton NEO ATK: 309 DEF: 609
"Now this is a fight!"
"Let's dance, darling~"
The underground needs a hero
I don't know why, but this unlocks nostalgic feelings for me that I didn't know I could unlock.
It's nice how you use some of Toby's unused sprites, like some of the robot attacks for example.
Amazing job, this genuinely looks like what the mettaton neo fight would have been! I would say it’s a good idea to change how the laser blaster moves so that it feels less like a gaster blaster. Having them move to the screen in a linear line could look good.
Yeah, the laser doesn't feel like laser at all. Also, i think it should also move and charge directions in-screen, slowly charging it's direction to try to damage the player player and trying to follow him for a while to get a better spot. It could make sense since NEO is trying to do the most damage he can before he dies. When he as very low HP, he should try an all-out attack, constantly blasting and throwing attacks at you before his blastes get overloaded and you kill him.
0:29 Vulkin's attack but the sprite's are changed to be mettatons robotic arm
0:44 Vulkin's attack but the cloud sprite is changed to be mettatons soul
0:59 Custom attack
1:13 Custom attack
1:29 New mini mettatons
1:43 2 Rhymed custom attacks
1:56 New indestructable push blocks
2:15 Sans' attack but the gasterblasters sprites are changed to become mettaton's robotic arm
2:25 2 Rhymed custom attacks
2:40 New indestructable lightning attacks
2:56 Custom attack
3:18 Custom attack with changed sprite
3:33 2 Rhymed custom attacks
3:45 Undyne's attack but the spear sprites are changed to be mettatons leg
3:57 2 Rhymed custom attacks
4:14 Sans' attack but the gasterblasters sprites are changed to become mettaton's robotic arm
4:25 Custom attack with Sans' attack but the gasterblasters sprites are changed to become mettaton's robotic arm
4:45 Sans' attack but the gasterblasters sprites are changed to become mettaton's robotic arm
4:55 Custom attack with Sans' attack but the gasterblasters sprites are changed to become mettaton's robotic arm
5:16 Undyne's attack but the spear sprites are changed to be mettatons leg
5:31 Custom attack with Sans' attack but the gasterblasters sprites are changed to become mettaton's robotic arm
5:48 Custom attack with Sans' attack but the gasterblasters sprites are changed to become mettaton's robotic arm
6:08 2 Rhymed custom attacks with Vulkin's attack but the sprite's are changed to be mettatons robotic arm
6:21 The last but not least attack
You are a hero, my good sir and or madam. I thank you for making this
very underrated! thank you for not making Mettaton Neo a one hit kill 😭 you'd think after battling Undyne
you'd get a more glamorous challenge but i was disappointed when first playing.
it would've been cool if you added dialogue between the battle but nice work nonetheless
This is very toby fox-style attack-wise, just add some dialogue and maybe background lights to suit mettaton’s nature and you’ve got yourself a fight so good that if a new player were to encounter this in the actual game, they’d fully think it’s real and wouldn’t believe you if you told them it wasn’t! Great job!
not hard enough imo
to clarify i mean the boss should have significantly harder attacks but also have less health because it seems very tedious
and also add some dialogue because mettaton of all people isn't gonna be completely silent during this
maybe buff attack damage of the boss as well
The hp thing was either in the game files or just the empty gun being hard to use
When it comes to the difficulty of the attacks I'm not trying to go overboard like most fan animation or fan games do with their boss fight, instead I'm trying to keep it somewhat consistent with the general difficulty of Undertale but slightly harder because it's a genocide fight, additionally, whenever I get hit in this video it is me legitimately getting hit and I'm not really bad at Undertale fights plus you have to fight Sans right after this so I can't have him burn all your healing items.
As for his health it's unchanged from what it is in the game files, however, if you use the Empty Gun against him and get perfect hits every time you can kill him in 8 turns (I just find it hard to use), which is faster than the standard Undyne the Undyning battle in which if you get perfect hits against her than the fastest you can kill her is 12 turns.
When it comes to dialog, I'm not a writer and anything I could come up with just felt too goofy to me, didn't match the tone of Genocide or didn't match Mettaton, so I elected to keep him silent, just like Undyne the Undyning is. Besides I personally like it better this way as to me it gives the impression that he's taking the fight seriously.
On to damage, the reason it's so low is because I'm level 18 if you drop down in level his attacks to more damage because I reworked Undertale's armour/ defence system for the player so that you take less damage the higher the level you are (monster also do more damage to somewhat compensate), for example a simple drop from level 18 to level 17 increases the amount of damage you take from a standard attack of Mettaton Neos from roughly 9hp to roughly 14hp. I think I might keep the damage you take from Mettaton Neo at level 18 about what it is as a reward for people who managed to reach it before fighting him.
@@tigertank1819 ok i still think the attack patterns should be buffed a bit but thanks for responding
@@DOOMHYDRA9999 I think it’s fine and fair
Wanna see harder fight? Go see undertale ddd metatton neo lol. True touhou lunatic difficulty. But it's just an animation though
This is exceedingly good!
It just needs a tiny bit more polish and refining before its amazing!
It’s great!! All it needs is some dialogue.
Maybe you could get this by aborting your run in Hotland. The reason you kill him in one hit in genocide is because he's programmed to fight human and you killing in one hit is the game's way of telling you that you're no longer human. Him putting up a good fight should you abort your run could be the game's way of telling you that you've regained a bit of your humanity.
This absolutely lives up to my expectations. I was seriously disappointed when I fought Mettaton NEO and it was basically a joke fight. Come on man, I just fought Undyne the Undying and have Sans coming up. We're in the endgame now. I want more of a challenge. I'm genuinely loving what you've got so far, and from what I can guess it's not even finished. Great job and good luck!
ok but to be fair, if MTT NEO wasn't a joke, then the fight against Sans would have been worse bc everyone would have already eaten the good items by now making Sans more of a pain. Plus we already have [[NEO]] IN [Your other Local] PLACE!
@@P1glinFury sans fight? Brother metaton NEO is the strongest monster besides asriel and omega flowey. He is just busted but a joke fight
@@Rainne.
Mtt Neo and Inmortal Undyne look like Asriel Hyperdeath
Spikes in shoulders
White and heartshaped gloves
Heartshaped chestplate
Mtt Neo have shiny wings
Why this isn't a real fight?... Why Toby Fox?...
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy?
I mean, yeah, that's literally the point. It's intended to be anticlimactic.
It being a fake-out also sets up perfectly for Sans, luring those who are playing blind into a false sense of security(especially when it gives you the real knife and locket, which are deceptively useless) while also saving your healing items, which is important.
@@Missingno_Miner
Yeah...
After defeating The True Fish Hero in her most OP anime form, everyone only ran away avoiding you (except the Mtt's mercenaries in The Core)
And Mtt be like The Last One Standing...
And kill him in oneshot, Flowey afraid of you in New Home and the Knive with 99 atk; fills you with determination and confidence; only to be everything useless aganist Sans
Well played, Toby (annonying dog)
It's so weird to see this after seeing Spamton Neo but this is incredible nonetheless!
personally I think some of the attacks are kinda bland, most of them are just various objects falling from above. I think there should be a bit more variety in the objects, and he should use his gun more often during the falling attacks as well
Nice work though!
Yeah, i felt something missing in these attacks. More variety and blaster here and there attacks should do the work.
I suggest you change the sound of the mettaton lasers that the gasters use, for the sound of the deltarune queen's laser, that would be better in the fight
Knowing that one day Tiger Tank is uploading a part 5
It fills you with determination
This didn’t age very well.
@@SorielHDTBers Mabey one day (no ETA though)
Ngl i just like how it doesnt look that flashy or hard as some fan animations/fangames make it look like
This is great! The only problems I have with this are:
-Some of the attacks are really weak due to how slow they are, even compared to Undyne. (Such as the disco ball attack, for example) while others are way too difficult to dodge (Like the weird lightning dodging attack with super small gaps)
-Some of Box Form/EX's more iconic attacks could really be great to place here at the fastest speed (Such as the EX attack with the bombs and boxes, or the one with the 1V1 against the robotic heart, as long as its the hardest version of them. While Box Form doesn't have that many interesting attacks, it could be nice to see its Red SOUL mode attack with the falling boxes since its pretty hard to dodge, or its own lightning attack)
-Lack of dialogue from NEO himself or different battle text on your turn than just "Stage lights are blaring"
-While the arm gaster blasters are fine, it would be nice to see Mettaton fire their actual arm cannon, a la Spamton NEO.
Very nice job otherwise, fun fight!
For anyone wondering, the indestructible block and sparkily mettaton box are both cut attacks that were removed from mettaton EX's fight.
The progress you've made is incredible
I know mettaton neo’s instakill is supposed to give the player a power trip, but honestly it was disappointing, so having you work on this is cool
I always just thought that it was a joke about Mettaton being weak, but I was wrong ig.
No, the instakill is meant to be disappointing. Toby wants you to feel bad for everything you've done, not powerful.
@@virtualasheztf mettaton is not weak we are too op
@@teslapanda1412 That was 3 months ago.
That is actually so cool.
This should be canon
Beautiful. But it would be cooler if you changed sound of blasters so that it was not so similar to sound of gaster-blasters
There was no need to make Mettaton NEO an intense Boss fight, as long as he HAS one. He can be similiar to Toriel in terms of fight difficulty
* Stage lights are blaring.
* Mettaton turns to the audience and bows.
* Mettaton blows a kiss to the audience.
* Mettaton begs the audience to stop panicking.
* There is no audience.
* The air crackles with determination.
* Drama. Romance. Bloodshed.
* Smells like ozone.
May I add a suggestion, perhaps you could add more dialog in-between attacks because there appears to be a lack of that in this fight. Other than that, I think this is pretty well made.
I'm not a writer and anything I could come up with just felt too goofy to me, didn't match the tone of Genocide or didn't match Mettaton, so I elected to keep him silent, just like Undyne the Undyning is. Besides I personally like it better this way as to me it gives the impression that he's taking the fight seriously.
Maybe he could just have ellipsis for dialog. "..."
@@tigertank1819 it cant be that bad, can we see?
@@tigertank1819maybe use the dialog from the animation of mettaton neo fight
I like how at 3:33 spamton's theme plays
I CANT HEAR MY OWN THEME
You mean the same instrument
the song was made long before deltarune chapter 2 came out, it ain't in there homie
Gotta say I really like this though it kinda feels like the burnt pan's attack is going at least slightly faster could be just me though
If your talking about the weapon I'm using in the video, it's not the Burned Pan but the Empty Gun.
@@tigertank1819 oh I'm dumb lmao
my only question is how you would get the yellow heart, as you need the upgraded cell phone to get it
I personally like to think the Human is just firing determination bullets out of the Gun, besides Kris kind of just pulled it out of nowhere in Deltarune so I see no reason why that can't be the case here.
Just curious but will there any dialogue during the battle or only when you killed mettaton
I'm not a writer and anything I could come up with just felt too goofy to me, didn't match the tone of Genocide or didn't match Mettaton, so I elected to keep him silent, just like Undyne the Undyning is. Besides I personally like it better this way as to me it gives the impression that he's taking the fight seriously.
@@tigertank1819 i see . Youve got a good point there buddy . Hope your project turns out well in the future.
idea: make attacks which make the sprite animate like physically shooting lasers out of the sprite
The attacks seem kinda slow tbh, undyne the undying and sans had more intense attacks.
Will you update this to include the official full version of Power of NEO that was revealed in the newsletter?
I didn't even know about that, I might release a version with that than.
@@tigertank1819Maybe you should upload a Part 5 video. That would be cool.
@@rayman3521 One day
Just found this project and I couldn't be more happy about it! Keep up the good work!
this is cool.. i suggest you buff the attacks a little bit since i dont think its hard enough right now. But other than that this is SICK!
aside from the attack at 1:00, the others look like hard enough to me
@@abarette_ comparing to sans or undyne the undying battle it doesnt look hard
@@teriothehWell it cant be as hard as either of them since this is right before sans wouldn't be very fair if you burned through all your items fighting Mettaton
Easy mode looks great!
nice development from using ingame attacks to creating some of your own
Thanks, I haven't been able to work on it lately, but, I hope to implement the rewind attacks and refine some others a bit.
*Alphys worked more on the defenses
Finally
While i absolutely love the mettaton neo v 2.0 i think this also deserves credit as well
Attack suggestion: SOME of the mettaton arms should try to punch you even after you shoot them as a "HAHA! Gotcha!" kind of thing.
Yo, just wanna say that it is cool, you have really good mettatons attacks
I think it would be better to use song savior of humanity but it's up to you
This is the music I wanted
Man thoes stage lights are really blaring.
Hey. By testing the standalone Mettaton NEO mod. Omega Flowey has extremely more HP than he should be and also the green projectiles during the green soul don't heal. I hope you read this and fix it.
Some text suggestions if you can do text
*hes stronger this time? (After first attack)
*let’s see what he has.
*seems like alphys didn’t intend our strength (near end)
*he thinks he’s able to win.
*the power of NEO shines through the room
*mettatons determined.
(New act: boast)
*you say that he never had an audience and won’t now.
*mtt NEO attack went up! Lights blaring brighter!
It would make the Fight more polished, i like this idea
Frisk should be LV15, not 18, but other than that good job
I mean in the normal game yeah, but, in this mod I messed with the experience some monsters give and if you play correctly you can reach Level 18 before this fight, though if you just do the Genocide run normally you would normally be level 16 or 17.
=UNDYNE WAS THAT FINAL BOSS,THOUGH AND THERE WASNT ANYTHING ABOVE HER IN TERMS OF MIGHT
=SO,SO LAUGHABLE BATTLE WITH METTATON IS EXPLAINABLE AND EVERYTHING'S OK 1ITH THAT
Mettaton NEO, but his defense is ACTUALLY 9.
You should add more the
Ugh I think is look like Gaster Blaster heh
Add more Neo Blaster and make it size bigger
#PowerOfNeo😎👍🎵
I would've liked if he used Queen's stomping attack from Deltarune
Power of NEO TRUEL power of NEO got music batle NEO by Like Mettaton NEO original y videos musicales metaton NEO FIGHT 🎵⚡️⚡️
This has potential, but it still needs some work. A lot of the attacks look like Mettaton is just throwing a bunch of crap at you and telling you to dodge it. I also think he should have some dialogue.
Dude this iş not good
Great job! these attacks fit so well with metteton neo!
im actually happy mtt neo was unused bc of sans alone, hp items are important for his fight
I am personally partial to the IKARUS remix, and I hear it was sorta used???? Nice.
i was thinking mettaton neo could have some sort of final attack similar to spamton's but slightly harder? i know this is the goofiest reasoning but yknow it would be nice
Yeah, Neo should get an all-out last attack, since he knows he is going to die, anyway.
Dont give up, keep making stuff
Just taking a break
Is this made inside actual undertale? If so than that’s very cool
Yes, I left a download link for the mod in the description if you want to try it out.
@@tigertank1819 wow
Though the only thing is that frisk will never have the upgraded phone so they won't have the peashooter.
Na minha opnião o único defeito dessa luta é que ela esta mais dificil que o sans, o que não faria sentido pela ordem que você os enfrenta.
Metatton neo can't be a fight because in genocide, you don't get the phone upgrade so you can't become yellow
I think this is going great, but I suggest adding like a difficulty “ramp” of a slow steady increase in difficulty throughout the fight, making the begging start easier to balance things out
FINALLY UPGRADED ITS DEFENSE
Just add dialogue during the battle and it will be perfect!
This looks and sounds epic and the music is great
So did anyone else listen to the song and start hearing space jam?
I still prefer Mettaton NEO 2.0, but I love this battle now
2:03 spooder dance
nothing important, just spooder dance
*DON'T YOU KNOW THAT [Neo] 1S KNOWN FOR ITS HIGH DEFENSE?
I suggest ramping up the difficulty instead of just spam.
The difficulty isn't meant to be too crazy like what you see in the Mettaton Neo fan animated fights/ fan games, but, is instead meant to be more in line with what Undertales difficulty is, but, slightly harder since it's a genocide fight, additionally, most of the attacks I use are just harder versions of Mettaton Exs attacks and he kind of spams you since your meant to use your yellow soul to destroy as many of his projectiles as you can to make the attacks easier.
by fix attak?
Alternative Title: Mettaton Neo but they fixed the defenses
when alphys worked more on the defense
This actually looks really good, I'm glad you didn't make it like every sans fan game where you have to dodge 93049240923409 gaster blasters AHEM ink sans
This is meant to be somewhat balanced, since you have to fight Sans directly after this fight, I didn't want him to be too hard.
If this was real Toby would prob remove the blasters
i think you should mke the heart like the scale of the hearts in undertale
Thanks for updating
If only it really existed in game
If you want it to, this mod is fully playable, and a few different versions of it can be found in a pinned comment, and in the video's description.
Ok thank you !
I think It nos Just need some dialogues and its perfect
The song is familiar to Ikarus remix
This should've been the real fight
small thing to point out, since in genocide Alphys evacuates Hotland and the core you don't meet with her, hence she doesn't upgrade your phone so you shouldn't have the yellow mode, tho I'm aware at this point of progress in creating the fight it can't be changed anymore
I just like to imagine that the Human just does what Kris does and forces their soul mode to change to fire back.
Maybe add text bubbles next..?
4:46
Hold on….. That looks like..
Gasp!
bruh this is only mix of vulkin,mettaton ex and other cut scene monsters
leg blaster could be another sound
Also i think you should make our attacks a bit more powerfull, i mean, not 992748284, no, no, NO, just like, we are LV 18, i think we should do way more damage than what we did to undyne, like 6-9 thousands, to make this fight more epich
Mettaton Neo has lower defence than Undyne though and only 7 thousand more health, the fight would last only 4-5 hits with that kind of damage, plus if you hit a critical with the gun you can easily do over 3 thousand damage on a single hit and when he's lower than half health you can even hit in the 5 thousands, it's just hard to pull off with the gun.