*NOTE: Minor error on the B-Roll video at **6:35** demonstrating AIO front mount position: fans should be flipped around for a pull orientation.* Do you still fear the radiator? What are your thoughts on AIO cooling? Do you do things differently?
I’ve found that top mounted AIO radiators can interfere with the RAM depending on models of the RAM and the case - i had a Corsair build with a 220 case, Vengeance RGB Pro RAM and a 240mm H100 AIO and I could not mount the AIO on top without bumping into the RAM (same parts fit in my 4000X case)
GN did a great video about having the tubes at the top on a vertical radiator. The tubes should definitely be at the bottom, so the air sits at the top of the rad. Whereas when the tubes are at the top the liquid will “trickle” into the barbs and causing a gurgling noise and not feed the pump sufficiently.
One tip I could offer, if and when you decide to swap your air cooler for an AIO cooler. Run your pc before disassembling the air cooler to make the old thermal paste unstick from the cooler. I didn't do that and it was a nightmare getting my cooler off my CPU it was essentially fused and I risked damaging my CPU and the socket.
I was like huh. I guess people turn off their computer. I've had all my PCs since the early 90s on 24/7. I don't think I could sleep without the sound of a computer running.
Bro, you have been a life saver. I built my last pc ten years ago, and I've fallen so far behind. You have provided a wealth of knowledge plainly presented to get me back up to speed. I can't thank you enough.
Yeah me too and mine finally kicked the bucket. I had a Rampage Formula III with a i7 990x, some GSkills and I'm on my 3rd GPU. Building a new system now and need to cool the i9 13700 muahahaha...
I have watched a gillion of these AIO videos and this is THE ONLY one that was concise, clear and straightforward enough for me to actually fear these things LESS for my next build. Thank you SO MUCH for making it.
One thing Jason somewhat mentioned but could easily be over looked; It's very important for your pump to run at or near 100% speed. A mistake I made when I first got an AIO was match my pump speed to my fan curves which started at 20% and ramped up to 100% at 80C. Pumps can miss behave or not function if they are set at or below 30-40%. Even though the pump would reach 100% voltage at 80C since it got too little voltage at boot it wouldn't reach full speed causing the CPU to run an extra 10C hotter under load. Pumps work best the faster they can pull heat away from the cold plate!
Yes always best to run the pump as fast as possible as it is essentially free cooling without much noise difference compared to having to run fans faster. Just like fans, pump constantly changing speeds is what causes the most wear.
Good info. About to get my first AIO. Where would I change the pump speed at? Would that be in the BIOs or something like a 3rd party software? Lastly, will a 240mm radiator fit into a 280mm top mount?
@@larrykrappenschitz9926 Unless you see an extra set of holes where you plan to mount it I doubt it will fit. Yes, you can set your pump speed with software 3rd or 1st party software, but I'd recommend only using those while testing noise levels and once you've found your sweet spot plug it into bios and save it to a profile. Make sure to uncheck PWM(and or Smart mode) if it's an option, it'll be in the pump/fan control section, it'll cause fluctuation in current to the pump but you just want it at a static speed. It's fine to have it on your fans but not the pump, otherwise your temps will be unpredictable. What brand motherboard do you have?
@@larrykrappenschitz9926 The pump settings should be where you control your fans in bios. If you don't have a pump header on your motherboard manufactures usually recommend using the "CPU fan" header.
Exactly. That at 6:35 is the best solution with the hoses at the bottom, to avoid cavitation and air bubbles, and the fans pulling air, instead pushing it (like is showing in the video). That's how I installed my 240 system three years ago and still working great. Excellent video.
I have the EK AIO in the Lian Li 011 and I have 6 fans to go in but I was on the fence about the configuration. I didn't want a whole heap of heat going through the radiator but you've helped me decide how I want to set things up in the case, thanks Jason. I thought you'd be at 100k subscribers by now but not much more before that milestone. You've had a hell of a year of growth congrats.
@@arnoldarndth7925 I mounted the AIO at the top of the case. I have fans at the bottom and at the sides. The tubes are in front of the side mounted fans. Bottom and side mounted fans are intake, the fans on the radiator are exhaust.
Back in my time, we buy water pumps from aquarium shop, use bike radiators and tupperware as reservoir LOL. Water block was hand machined from a block of copper and epoxied together. If you want RGB, you buy cold cathode lights from auto shop and light controller from hobby shops. Ah good times! Coming up with new ideas, sourcing for materials and ghetto engineering was such an adventure! I still have trauma from when a leakage destroyed my AMD Thunderbird.. 20 years sure flew by!
Just a little add on: For a case where bottom mounting the radiator is required, typically the beQuiet Pure Loop is the best and only real option. For absolute best performance, pair the EK or Arctic AiOs with either the Noctua NFA-12x25 or the Phanteks P30 fans.
This is a very good beginner's summary in a quick and concise video. Kudos. My main issues with AIOs is the lifespan as you mentioned. With so more mechanical components, there's much possibilities of failure than a simple fan failure in an air cooler. Even if the pump and fans all last to their rated capacity and beyond, the issue of eventual evaporation of coolant sets an eventual limit. (The Bequiet Silent Loop does allow refill though its cooling performance is average at best in exchange for low noise). I have encountered way more AIOs fail or simply reached EOL than a simple heat sink fan which often outlast even the socket the CPU is mounted on. Also lastly, this a pet peeve of mine but a lot of cases can't mount top of the line 280/360 AIOs on the roof with clearance for motherboards due to VRM heatsink being too big or RAM size. I kinda wish there is more standardization on this on the amount of free case height above the motherboard.
I am watercooling my pc for around 25 years now. I began doing it in 1999. :D My first system was a tupperware as a water tank, an aquarium pump in tupperware, car heater radiator, silicon hoses and cpu, gpu and northbridge block. :D Know I am going to make an another interesting attempt to cool my new built but old render machine: X99 chinese mainboard, 2 x Xeon E5 - 2697 v4 cpu, 128gb ram. :D All bought used for dirt cheap. For this dirt cheap, old, but yet powerfull setup, I have a dirtcheap but effective cooling solution. I allready have a 7 year old Corsair 24cm aio cooler. I bought a coolermaster 14cm aio for 9 usd used. :D And It is working! :D I will cut one of the hoses, combine the two in series. :D CPU1 to 14cm radiator, 14cm radiator to CPU2, CPU2 to 24cm radiator. :D This means two pumps though. I don't know it will be a problem or not; but I will test it. 14cm + 24cm radiator would be a little weak for two 2697 v4 cpus. If that will be the case, I will find another dirt cheap aio and add that to the system. :D What can I cool with the third cpu block? Mainboard maybe? :D I can mount it on the coller gills of the mainboard? I am not sure. I can hear the obvious question: What is your case? My case is 20 year old Cooler Master Stacker. :D You can buy it for dirt cheap. It can easily handle two 24cm radiators, 12 HDDs, two CPUs, 8 16gb rams, two PSUs, one SAS card, one 10gbit ethernet card and one gtx 1080ti. :D Nothing fancy. No RGBs, no glass at the side panel; but it has 4 wheels. :D I added USB 3.0 ports also (I disasamblied USB 2.0 ports and glued an extender cord perfectly). Dirt cheap render / HDD server / Second pc at home office. I bought Chinese x540 10gbit ethernet card. It works perfectly. Heats like hell. So I added a fan on top of it. I am supplying 5V to 12V 6cm fan. It is more than enough to cool down the ethernet card and it is silent because it is on 5V. The card has two 10gbit output. I bought two more. One is for my pc, one is for the third pc. I will directly connect them to each other without a switch. :) Again, cheap solution. :D I allready have six 4 TB disks. I will sell four of them and buy eight HGST 4TB SAS disks. Why? Because sata disks are more expensive in my country; but sas disks are more durable and fast. Used Sata disks are around 45 usd in my country. Used Sas disks are around 25 usd. Since I have a sas card that supports 8 disks, I will use 8 SAS disks and two Sata disks. ---------------------------------- AIOs tend to breakdown because of integrated pump. Nothing else becomes a problem.
Thank you for simplifying so much in your videos and making it so easy to understand and giving us viewers so much explanation, it's making it fun to learn and understand about pcs and components/parts and how things work. Keep up the great vids will continue to support you!
@@PCBuilderChannel Wow you saw and replied to my comment O.O ahaha I was hope you can make a video on fan curves and how to stress test and optimize the computer after its been built!
Thank you so much for this! I have a pc at home and the temps were bad even tho I had an aio. I soon realised it was because I had all of my 5 fans facing the same way! I then fixed them and now my temps are so much better, thank you so much! I thought negative airflow would never matter…
So glad we could help! And yes, airflow is something a lot of us builders don't pay enough attention to so you're in good company there. Glad you got it fixed up!
I used to be afraid of aio coolers but after doing some research I realized they are pretty awesome especially if you get a good one. I have a Corsair H150i elite capellix and I love it. My opinion is liquid coolers are the way to go. Great video man.
I was just looking up Water Cooled PC guides out of curiosity, and right away I subbed once Jason introduced himself, love his positive energy! Or in other words: "I HAVE SEEN ENOUGH!!! I'm satisfied!"
if you do have a top mesh filter, you can always just cut it away around the AIO, leaving the mesh over the open areas, to keep dust etc from falling in. Sometimes the gaps around rads are big enough that the rad fans don't push all of it away, especially at lower fan speeds
I have been building pc for the last 15yrs and never tried the AIO for the fear of leaks and sort of failing pump etc,i never had a single air cooler fail on me over the course of the year,as the saying goes,if ain't broke,don't fix it but i am tempting to build a system with AIO for the first time this year...thanks for sharing this Jason,it helps a lot..
I’m finally doing my very first gaming pc build. I’ve always had MSI gaming laptops. So this video answered my questions of how to orientate my fans and AIO. Thanks for the clearing this all up.
@@PCBuilderChannel Yes you did, especially when you said "pump should not be the highest point" that helped sooo much because the way gamersnexus said it confused me
Great video. I just got my first AIO recently and just watched your video and I have not seen a lot of other people mentioning to run the pump at 100% to move air out of the pump when installed first, but it makes perfect sense. That has definitely helped me since I could hear the thing bubbling inside a bit under load and not anymore.
Why didn't I watch this earlier 🤦🏼♂️. I was wasn't sure about doing my own first build and Jason inspired me with his "How to build a PC" video. I was almost finished and realised after I installed my air cooler (because I feared the water cooler) that it completely ruined my aesthetics. I wasn't happy after all this time on my project so I pulled it all out and ordered a AIO that's coming today. Why didn't I watch this one!!! 😅. If you want an incredibly awesome channel to learn about PC building then this is the channel for you! Thanks again Jason and the PC builder team. One of the best on YT!
About to build my first computer from the ground up (though I've taken apart and put together many in the past... distant past) and this video was excellent! I was really nervous about installing a water cooler, and even whether I'd be getting one good enough for what I need and this was super helpful. Can't wait to install now!
I believe that when you build your computer you consider these facts. The AIO's purpose is to cool the CPU not the case. Hot air always rises. A very good reason to place the radiator and its fans at the top of the case. You cannot put size 12 feet into size 10 shoes, without problems. I learned this with my last build. I bought a Thermaltake Commander C-33 case and their Toughliquid Ultra 360 AIO. I quickly become aware of a few problems. The AIO's radiator could not be centered at the top of the case because of a case corner brace. The AIO did not allow sufficient room for the top-mounted case-control wires to pass. It wanted ALL of the top space for itself. The three large fans make access to the MB's top wire pins nearly impossible. I had to put the plugs on the pins before I installed the fans. I learned two great lessons. Always keep all the packaging handy if you need to return anything and that patience is a virtue. I did get the AIO to work but I wish that I had planned the operation a little bit better.
Hello PC Builder, thank you for these helpful vids! I'm building my first PC and I was wondering, have you done a video about which vertical GPU mounts works best for the newer gen pc parts? Considering on vertical-mounting my GPU but I watched a video saying that there are a lot of issues with it
Vertical mounting a GPU can cause problems due to the GPU fans being too close to the side of the case and not giving them enough airflow. Other issues can come from the flat cable that connects it to the PCIe slot. GPUs really like to be plugged right in to the motherboard.
I browsed a few of your videos before rebuilding a system it's been about 4 years... Did a push pull configuration exactly as you laid out and my temperatures are frosty as the Arctic!!! Even managed to convince my 7 year old to help me finish the build, she had A-blast thank you so much for the video
Just went from noctua D15 to EK AIO 240 for 12700k upgrade in meshify C case. Definitely more space and airflow now in case, but a bit disappointed about the cooling performance (maby it is just the 12gen running too hot when oc) I was not too happy for forced move to aio over air (12gen compatibility issues), but at the end i think i will be AIO guy also on future builds.
Note, for a Ryzen 5800x and 5800x3d using a 360mm AIO is highly recommended, they have the same power draw as 5900 and 5950 but they're a single chiplet and will have a higher overall temp.
I have a 5800X and a custom loop setup. The CPU water block runs through a 240mm top-mount with two fans in a push config. During gaming my CPU temps seldom hit 60°C and I see no throttling. I think maybe an AIO is less efficient than a custom loop (because of having less water available to soak up heat.) But if you match the power draw of the CPU and the power capacity of the radiator, you'll be fine in either case. The max power for the 5800X is 219W, so a 240mm AIO with a capacity of 200W+ would be fine. But you have to pay attention (and pay.) The Arctic Freezer II 240mm AIO can handle that much power dissipation. Cheaper ones would have a problem, and would lead to CPU throttling at max load. If you want a cheaper AIO then yes, a 360mm radiator would be a better option.
The 5800x3D doesn't need that, I have mine running an all out 100% heavy all core load at under 75C on a 120mm AIO. But I did change the fan to a very efficient (and quiet) one that reviewed well. I simply balanced the fan speed to avoid rising temperature at full load, which also evacuated air from the case fast enough to allow me to switch back to a solid top instead of mesh. The Gamers Nexus review showed 5800x3D had large efficiency gains in their tests, partly due to the new Zen3 stepping which improved the metal layer. The max PPT is 142W and the TDP 105W, not exactly requiring Intel class cooling.
One thing to note: 280mm radiators are an excellent alternative to 360mm radiators if you don't have the room for a 360 in your case. A 280mm radiator takes two 140mm fans and a 360mm radiator takes three 120mm fans. So while you might think a 280mm radiator is a little over 1/3rd the surface area of a 360mm radiator, it's actually around 90%.
Kinda nervous about installing AIO cooling. Will be picking up the last 2 components for my high end gaming build next Tuesday, Red Devil 7900XTX and 32gb of Trident Z5 Neo, and when i was buying the items at the store i usually go to, i asked the clerk what he recommended to cool a Ryzen 7800X3D. He advised water cooling right off the bat and recommended me none other than the Arctic Liquid Freezer 240, which i ended up buying because it seemed like a very solid option for its price (81 euros). Starting a 4 day mini vacation Tuesday and will be taking my sweet time building this bad boy, that overall cost more than my current car. Will have to reinstall Cyberpunk 2077 to take it for a test drive. I will be probably rewatching this video a few times, and a few others, to prepare for the build. Last PC i assembled was 4 years ago. Good old I5 7600 and 1060 will retire for movies, tv shows and youtube only.
The DeepCool LT720 360mm is another great AIO - Has RGB and is a top performer as well for just $140.00 USD- I'm using with my Ryzen 9 7900X / RTX 4090 Build in a white Lian Li EVO Dynamic case. Anyways great review!
Speaking of leakage, here's some anecdotal evidence for you: I went AiO back on my Haswell system (i5-4670K) when it was just starting to become mainstream, I guess. 2013? 2014? Not sure but around that time. I used a cheapo 2nd or 3rd gen Corsair H60 (the one with the thicker, more rubber-y looking hoses). I used that thing for years and years, then let the PC sit in storage for a year or so. When I got my hands on it again, I took everything apart, making a beeline for the cooler, because I was afraid it might have gone bad. It was ...errr probably 8 years old at the time. In any case: The hoses looked totally fine, even though their rubber sleeves both at the waterblock and at the radiator were showing "rips". Looked like the rubber got worn and tired around there. However: There was no visible leakage or anything like that, not on the AiO itself nor anywhere inside the case. When I had taken the H60 out of the case, I gave the radiator a good shake and it was pretty obvious there was less liquid in there (which is to be expected). But there *was* still liquid in there even after all these years.
If you buy an AIO, spend anothe $2 amd get an internal pc speaker. Plug the pump into cpu fan socket, and have the alert on fan fail option enabled. A failed pump will overheat your PC a lot quicker than a failed fan (on either air or water cooler).
@@tecnocracia09 blame the fact people didn't like the blower style FE cards like the 10 series and 900 series which blew all their air out the back of the case
I´m a Lian-Li Galahad 360 person and just purchased with it, 10 Lian-Li Uni Fans AL 120 for my white/black build ... those fans are simply uncluttered and such a joy to use ...
i ran an NZXT kraken 280mm AIO on my fx8350 for about 7 years, then moved it with NZXTs bracket to my gtx970 for a year, and then on to a 2070 for another year and it was still going strong keeping the 2070 running nearly 2ghz at 55-57 degrees Celsius in games when i went to a full custom loop a couple weeks ago.
If you install the radiator in the front of the case tubes up is not recommended because the air goes to the top of the tubes directly being pumped to the pump, tubes down is optimal.
Still using a Cryorig a40 for 6 years, unfortunately, not in production anymore. Thought I'd buck the system and try a unknown aio manufacturer, Cryorig. Friggin amazing cooler. They are only doing high end air cooling now, seem to be struggling against the big guys. From what I've read, they're top of the line, low cost but high quality. Do research.
I finally bite the bullet and bought a 240mm AIO for my PC after ever only using air coolers my air cooler is working fine so it's more an aesthetic choice but if it lowers the temps and allows me to use all 4 RAM slots that's a bonus
I use the Aorus 360 AIO with a 12900KS. To gain some better performance, I have replaced the factory CPU contact frame with the Thermalright contact frame. I believe with the i9 SKUs that this should always be installed.
I bought my first AIO one year ago, it was a Kraken M22 and it recently stopped pumping. Had to upgrade to a Kraken Z63 which was almost 3 times the price, if it doesnt last at least a few years i probably wont buy a NZXT product again. Then again, ive been kinda unlucky when buying new components lately, i usually have to go back to the store every time i buy a component bc its defective. Man, console has its advantages over pc..
Looking at the video thumbnail... it makes sense. Hot air rises, so you'd want your exhaust fans to be at the highest point possible... and consequently, your intake at the lowest.
Just started looking into building my first pc and I gotta say your videos have really helped me out! I was super intimidated by building one myself but from watching several of your videos I think I have a good understanding of everything! Also your cat is super cute!
I fear it will break and the liquid spill all over the mobo and graphics cards lol. Edit: also fear your cat in the video messing with the cabling :P just kidding
4:10 the lifespan of air cooler are much longer. Like kind of endless, because it's just a "metal block". If a fan is broken on the air-cooler, just buy another one. A aio can break before this time. Sure, you can swap the fans on the aio too, but not parts like the pump etc.
Excellent intro to water cooling. Always have used air coolers, but my new i5-1360k runs so hot, it's time to bite the water cooling bullet. This video was just perfect, thanks.
Ive never been sold on AIO setups and tbh a good thought out fan cooled system is just as good in keeping temps down. And just to point out the obvious an AIO still uses fans lol
Its absolutely fine to install the radiator in the front with the tubes on top as long as the inlet and outlet are above the inlet / outlet of the pump (which is almost always the case)
I just built my PC the other night with a good air cooler but its BULKY. I didn't know what it'd look like! I'm upgrading to an AIO for my birthday in a month. I was terrified to do an AIO for my first build but once again your video made me feel confident I wish i had seen this before i built! But upgrading seems like its gonna be a breeze 😊
I'm a watercooled guy, it's much more efficient, not more complicated (what is a pain are the RGB fans, it's not dependent on AIO), and it looks much better than an iron put in a rig ! 😁 It's even better on GPUs, like -30C and no noise at all !! I use Alphacool stuff (Eisbaer and Esiwolf2), it's good, a bit expensive (comparable to EK) but may be hard to get outside of Europe
I used to be one of those "liquid is too much trouble to install and maintain for the risk, I don't do anything so heavy that I need that much cooling". Fast forward to today, streaming, gaming in 1440p, content creation with video editing, and the advancements made in AIOs, the need went up and the risk came down, but my current $30 air cooler is doing pretty well, I just went with 5 pure wings 2 fans on the case and put Kryonaut on GPU and CPU. I'll probably invest in an AIO this year as my workload gets more intense and I look at higher end GPUs, but for now, I'm doing pretty awesome temps and it's VERY quiet, though the cost of 5 140mm pure wings 2 was nothing to scoff at, and AIO may have accomplished the same temps and noise level with the old cheapo case fans, but I won't know for sure til I try it I guess
This really helped clear up some of the things I was fuzzy on. And it looks like your cat takes it's job as Build Supervisor as seriously as mine does lol
Only do a AIO if you’re really not into water cooling only do custom cooling if you plan on upgrading your system down the line multiple times and only do air cooling if you really don’t care about any of that and you just want to set up your PC and use it stick with air cooling but also don’t use crappy parts don’t cheap out on anything in your build.
The cost is the main factor for me. The cheapest 240mm AIO for me is $88 AUD for the ML240L, whereas the Hyper 212X I'm running is half that price, and that's not even the cheapest fan cooler. I know $40 AUD may not seem like much, but it's enough to mean a better motherboard, better RAM, bigger SSD, etc.
Totally understandable! Like we talk about in the Liquid vs Air cooling section of the video budget price is one of the factors where Air can take the win.
It has always made more sense to me to give fresh air to the radiator from the front panel. Since hot air rises faster than cold air, it is easier to evacuate the hot air inside the case. I do not recommend sending the hot air inside the case to the radiator, the purpose should be to keep the liquid in the radiator cold. Adjust the speed of the radiator fans according to the processor temperature. If you have enough exhaust fans, you can try the installation as I said.
Building my first ever pc today. Hopefully I don’t fry the cpu, break the ram sticks or mess up on my airflow orientation. Corsair 5000D RGB case I’m thinking of putting my AIO on top as outtake, the. 3 120s on front, one 120mm intake on the bottom, and one 120mm on back as outtake.
I can't be the only one waiting on Jason's next vid so I end up commenting on an old video I've watch already..... love the info and content Jason! btw the best descriptions on TH-cam! every damn video! love that
My Arctic Freeze II 360 is coming in in a couple of days. First time using liquid to cool. Im not sure if I want to front mount it or top mount it. I'm putting it inside a Corsair 5000d Airflow. I picked up a 4090 and a 7700x. The 7700x came with free 32gig DDR5 3000 Mhz ram. I can't wait to build this puppy. I'm coming from an i7 6700k with a 1080ti. Should be an insane upgrade for me.
Thanks for your nice video, and these days it's hard to find a TH-camr with 122K subscriber that replies every single comment on his channel thank you. (a viewer from Turkey)
I've just purchased NZXT X53 and also replaced the front panel of my PC with mesh filter, Seeing 25-30 degrees temp difference, it's baffling now knowing I could have my PC on 60-70 degrees when gaming
*NOTE: Minor error on the B-Roll video at **6:35** demonstrating AIO front mount position: fans should be flipped around for a pull orientation.*
Do you still fear the radiator? What are your thoughts on AIO cooling? Do you do things differently?
Aio is great but cant be used in every build due to space limitations. Still, it is my first option if available
My philosophy is: why use an AIO cooler and risk your expensive hardware when nh-d15 exist ?
I’ve found that top mounted AIO radiators can interfere with the RAM depending on models of the RAM and the case - i had a Corsair build with a 220 case, Vengeance RGB Pro RAM and a 240mm H100 AIO and I could not mount the AIO on top without bumping into the RAM (same parts fit in my 4000X case)
GN did a great video about having the tubes at the top on a vertical radiator. The tubes should definitely be at the bottom, so the air sits at the top of the rad. Whereas when the tubes are at the top the liquid will “trickle” into the barbs and causing a gurgling noise and not feed the pump sufficiently.
interesting!
One tip I could offer, if and when you decide to swap your air cooler for an AIO cooler. Run your pc before disassembling the air cooler to make the old thermal paste unstick from the cooler. I didn't do that and it was a nightmare getting my cooler off my CPU it was essentially fused and I risked damaging my CPU and the socket.
thanks, nice tip!
I was like huh. I guess people turn off their computer. I've had all my PCs since the early 90s on 24/7. I don't think I could sleep without the sound of a computer running.
But its only good for unmount cpu cooler. Bad for pulling ram
Oh that’s why i almost destroyed my cpu socket
A blowtorch will also help 😅
Bro, you have been a life saver. I built my last pc ten years ago, and I've fallen so far behind. You have provided a wealth of knowledge plainly presented to get me back up to speed. I can't thank you enough.
That's so great to hear! Thank you for the feedback it means a lot to us. I've been the returning PC builder before so very glad we could help!
Yeah me too and mine finally kicked the bucket. I had a Rampage Formula III with a i7 990x, some GSkills and I'm on my 3rd GPU. Building a new system now and need to cool the i9 13700 muahahaha...
@@PCBuilderChannel Thank you for tips a picked up👍🏻 Also Happy to see UR YT Ch. Growing☝🏻
Woah, I remember you when you were at 1k subs literally a year ago. Now you’re almost at 100k! Keep it up man you’re helping a lot of people👏
We've grown so fast its wild! Can't tell you how much we appreciate the support.
@@PCBuilderChannel if you’re channel wasn’t a thing i wouldn’t even have tried to build a pc
Over 150k now. Dudes growing rapidly!
@@akira3871 That’s awesome, I mean I’m not surprised, he makes solid content worth everyone’s time.
He's now pushing 200k
I have watched a gillion of these AIO videos and this is THE ONLY one that was concise, clear and straightforward enough for me to actually fear these things LESS for my next build. Thank you SO MUCH for making it.
Thank you so much for the awesome feedback! It means a lot
Same
I have the Arctic 360 AIO non RGB and that thing is a BEAST! Comes with a 10 year warranty too so it was a no brainer. Great video brother.
Nice!! And thank you for watching!
Yup. Using the same AIO for my 5900x and it cools it like champ. CPU doesn't go above 60c when gaming and that's with the fans set to silent mode.
Ive the 280mm for my 5800x. My noctua 15 did couldn't keep up. The arctic series are insane
I bought the 420 non-RGB, just waiting patiently for it's arrival lol
@@greed_xiii that'll cool anything
One thing Jason somewhat mentioned but could easily be over looked; It's very important for your pump to run at or near 100% speed. A mistake I made when I first got an AIO was match my pump speed to my fan curves which started at 20% and ramped up to 100% at 80C. Pumps can miss behave or not function if they are set at or below 30-40%. Even though the pump would reach 100% voltage at 80C since it got too little voltage at boot it wouldn't reach full speed causing the CPU to run an extra 10C hotter under load. Pumps work best the faster they can pull heat away from the cold plate!
Yes always best to run the pump as fast as possible as it is essentially free cooling without much noise difference compared to having to run fans faster. Just like fans, pump constantly changing speeds is what causes the most wear.
Good info. About to get my first AIO. Where would I change the pump speed at? Would that be in the BIOs or something like a 3rd party software? Lastly, will a 240mm radiator fit into a 280mm top mount?
@@larrykrappenschitz9926 Unless you see an extra set of holes where you plan to mount it I doubt it will fit.
Yes, you can set your pump speed with software 3rd or 1st party software, but I'd recommend only using those while testing noise levels and once you've found your sweet spot plug it into bios and save it to a profile. Make sure to uncheck PWM(and or Smart mode) if it's an option, it'll be in the pump/fan control section, it'll cause fluctuation in current to the pump but you just want it at a static speed. It's fine to have it on your fans but not the pump, otherwise your temps will be unpredictable.
What brand motherboard do you have?
@@larrykrappenschitz9926 The pump settings should be where you control your fans in bios. If you don't have a pump header on your motherboard manufactures usually recommend using the "CPU fan" header.
@@SiCSpiT1 motherboard is a z590 aorus elite ax
Exactly. That at 6:35 is the best solution with the hoses at the bottom, to avoid cavitation and air bubbles, and the fans pulling air, instead pushing it (like is showing in the video). That's how I installed my 240 system three years ago and still working great. Excellent video.
I have the EK AIO in the Lian Li 011 and I have 6 fans to go in but I was on the fence about the configuration.
I didn't want a whole heap of heat going through the radiator but you've helped me decide how I want to set things up in the case, thanks Jason.
I thought you'd be at 100k subscribers by now but not much more before that milestone.
You've had a hell of a year of growth congrats.
Glad I could help! That's a great sounding setup. We're almost to 100K. Should happen around X-mas!
may i ask what you final setup was?
@@Cr00klynD0dger oh sorry i meant how you set up you aio/fans, since i'm still a bit confused with the AIO+fans+different cases
@@arnoldarndth7925 I mounted the AIO at the top of the case. I have fans at the bottom and at the sides. The tubes are in front of the side mounted fans. Bottom and side mounted fans are intake, the fans on the radiator are exhaust.
Back in my time, we buy water pumps from aquarium shop, use bike radiators and tupperware as reservoir LOL. Water block was hand machined from a block of copper and epoxied together.
If you want RGB, you buy cold cathode lights from auto shop and light controller from hobby shops. Ah good times! Coming up with new ideas, sourcing for materials and ghetto engineering was such an adventure! I still have trauma from when a leakage destroyed my AMD Thunderbird.. 20 years sure flew by!
Just a little add on: For a case where bottom mounting the radiator is required, typically the beQuiet Pure Loop is the best and only real option. For absolute best performance, pair the EK or Arctic AiOs with either the Noctua NFA-12x25 or the Phanteks P30 fans.
don't forget Scythe Wonder Snail. That one is a heck good of a fan as well.
This is a very good beginner's summary in a quick and concise video. Kudos.
My main issues with AIOs is the lifespan as you mentioned. With so more mechanical components, there's much possibilities of failure than a simple fan failure in an air cooler. Even if the pump and fans all last to their rated capacity and beyond, the issue of eventual evaporation of coolant sets an eventual limit. (The Bequiet Silent Loop does allow refill though its cooling performance is average at best in exchange for low noise). I have encountered way more AIOs fail or simply reached EOL than a simple heat sink fan which often outlast even the socket the CPU is mounted on.
Also lastly, this a pet peeve of mine but a lot of cases can't mount top of the line 280/360 AIOs on the roof with clearance for motherboards due to VRM heatsink being too big or RAM size. I kinda wish there is more standardization on this on the amount of free case height above the motherboard.
Glad you enjoyed! These are solid points thanks for sharing
Front mounting is ok too, *as long as the pump is not in the highest point*
@@PCBuilderChannelis the aio cooler no longer working because it’s old a big problem when you have 6 fans n 3 on the aio?
How did you n]know that I was looking this up? The timing of this dropping was impeccable! Thanks for all the info
It's the secret cameras I have installed all over your house :-P
But seriously glad it helped!
I am watercooling my pc for around 25 years now. I began doing it in 1999. :D My first system was a tupperware as a water tank, an aquarium pump in tupperware, car heater radiator, silicon hoses and cpu, gpu and northbridge block. :D
Know I am going to make an another interesting attempt to cool my new built but old render machine: X99 chinese mainboard, 2 x Xeon E5 - 2697 v4 cpu, 128gb ram. :D All bought used for dirt cheap.
For this dirt cheap, old, but yet powerfull setup, I have a dirtcheap but effective cooling solution. I allready have a 7 year old Corsair 24cm aio cooler. I bought a coolermaster 14cm aio for 9 usd used. :D And It is working! :D I will cut one of the hoses, combine the two in series. :D CPU1 to 14cm radiator, 14cm radiator to CPU2, CPU2 to 24cm radiator. :D This means two pumps though. I don't know it will be a problem or not; but I will test it. 14cm + 24cm radiator would be a little weak for two 2697 v4 cpus. If that will be the case, I will find another dirt cheap aio and add that to the system. :D What can I cool with the third cpu block? Mainboard maybe? :D I can mount it on the coller gills of the mainboard? I am not sure.
I can hear the obvious question: What is your case? My case is 20 year old Cooler Master Stacker. :D You can buy it for dirt cheap. It can easily handle two 24cm radiators, 12 HDDs, two CPUs, 8 16gb rams, two PSUs, one SAS card, one 10gbit ethernet card and one gtx 1080ti. :D Nothing fancy. No RGBs, no glass at the side panel; but it has 4 wheels. :D I added USB 3.0 ports also (I disasamblied USB 2.0 ports and glued an extender cord perfectly).
Dirt cheap render / HDD server / Second pc at home office.
I bought Chinese x540 10gbit ethernet card. It works perfectly. Heats like hell. So I added a fan on top of it. I am supplying 5V to 12V 6cm fan. It is more than enough to cool down the ethernet card and it is silent because it is on 5V. The card has two 10gbit output. I bought two more. One is for my pc, one is for the third pc. I will directly connect them to each other without a switch. :) Again, cheap solution. :D
I allready have six 4 TB disks. I will sell four of them and buy eight HGST 4TB SAS disks. Why? Because sata disks are more expensive in my country; but sas disks are more durable and fast. Used Sata disks are around 45 usd in my country. Used Sas disks are around 25 usd. Since I have a sas card that supports 8 disks, I will use 8 SAS disks and two Sata disks.
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AIOs tend to breakdown because of integrated pump. Nothing else becomes a problem.
Thank you for simplifying so much in your videos and making it so easy to understand and giving us viewers so much explanation, it's making it fun to learn and understand about pcs and components/parts and how things work. Keep up the great vids will continue to support you!
Thank you for the awesome feedback! We really appreciate it and the support.
@@PCBuilderChannel Wow you saw and replied to my comment O.O ahaha
I was hope you can make a video on fan curves and how to stress test and optimize the computer after its been built!
I bought a corsair h150i elite cappelix for my 11900k,keeping it cool between 40 and 45°C while gaming,very happy with it.
nice!!
Thank you so much for this! I have a pc at home and the temps were bad even tho I had an aio. I soon realised it was because I had all of my 5 fans facing the same way! I then fixed them and now my temps are so much better, thank you so much! I thought negative airflow would never matter…
So glad we could help! And yes, airflow is something a lot of us builders don't pay enough attention to so you're in good company there. Glad you got it fixed up!
I'm a headset gamer, and noise is not an issue for me! 🥳
I used to be afraid of aio coolers but after doing some research I realized they are pretty awesome especially if you get a good one. I have a Corsair H150i elite capellix and I love it. My opinion is liquid coolers are the way to go. Great video man.
Thats a journey a lot of us go on! Glad you found one you love and glad you enjoyed the video!
For what cpu?
I was just looking up Water Cooled PC guides out of curiosity, and right away I subbed once Jason introduced himself, love his positive energy!
Or in other words: "I HAVE SEEN ENOUGH!!! I'm satisfied!"
Glad you found us! Hope you keep enjoying the content (:
if you do have a top mesh filter, you can always just cut it away around the AIO, leaving the mesh over the open areas, to keep dust etc from falling in. Sometimes the gaps around rads are big enough that the rad fans don't push all of it away, especially at lower fan speeds
I have been building pc for the last 15yrs and never tried the AIO for the fear of leaks and sort of failing pump etc,i never had a single air cooler fail on me over the course of the year,as the saying goes,if ain't broke,don't fix it but i am tempting to build a system with AIO for the first time this year...thanks for sharing this Jason,it helps a lot..
Exciting! Glad we could help!
Awesome content! Jason nailed it! This video along with Steve's from Gamers Nexus is everything you need to know to water cool a CPU with a CLC/AIO!
Wow thank you! Love being considered along with Steve (:
I just disliked three videos sharing information about AIO Water Cooling before I watch yours. Yours is the one that deserves my like ❤ 👍🏻 Thank you
Oh why thank you so much! Glad you found this one useful!
Oh man, I gotta get me one of those flexible screwdriver. It would of came in handy on my last build.
Its the best! I just linked it in the description (:
@@PCBuilderChannel just picked up a set. As of Dec 11, its on sale too.
lol, my thoughts exactly!
I’m finally doing my very first gaming pc build. I’ve always had MSI gaming laptops. So this video answered my questions of how to orientate my fans and AIO. Thanks for the clearing this all up.
You left out the Lian Li Galahad 360 and 240 aio. After 3 failures in one year with Corsair I got the Galahad 360. The best in the market IMO.
Still coming back to this video whenever I need a refresher on water cooling choice or install.
We love to hear it! Glad it's helpful
Perfect timing im bout to get a little nzxt cooler for christmas and im a little confused
Yay! Glad I could help!
@@PCBuilderChannel Yes you did, especially when you said "pump should not be the highest point" that helped sooo much because the way gamersnexus said it confused me
Great video. I just got my first AIO recently and just watched your video and I have not seen a lot of other people mentioning to run the pump at 100% to move air out of the pump when installed first, but it makes perfect sense. That has definitely helped me since I could hear the thing bubbling inside a bit under load and not anymore.
So glad we could help!
This video has really helped me decide if I should go with a aio or a air cooler thanks for the advice keep up the good work
So glad to hear it! That was the hope (:
Why didn't I watch this earlier 🤦🏼♂️.
I was wasn't sure about doing my own first build and Jason inspired me with his "How to build a PC" video. I was almost finished and realised after I installed my air cooler (because I feared the water cooler) that it completely ruined my aesthetics. I wasn't happy after all this time on my project so I pulled it all out and ordered a AIO that's coming today. Why didn't I watch this one!!! 😅.
If you want an incredibly awesome channel to learn about PC building then this is the channel for you!
Thanks again Jason and the PC builder team. One of the best on YT!
Thanks so much for the feedback and support! We appreciate it. And thank you for watching!
About to build my first computer from the ground up (though I've taken apart and put together many in the past... distant past) and this video was excellent! I was really nervous about installing a water cooler, and even whether I'd be getting one good enough for what I need and this was super helpful. Can't wait to install now!
So glad we could help! You've got this :) Thanks for watching.
I believe that when you build your computer you consider these facts. The AIO's purpose is to cool the CPU not the case. Hot air always rises. A very good reason to place the radiator and its fans at the top of the case. You cannot put size 12 feet into size 10 shoes, without problems. I learned this with my last build. I bought a Thermaltake Commander C-33 case and their Toughliquid Ultra 360 AIO. I quickly become aware of a few problems. The AIO's radiator could not be centered at the top of the case because of a case corner brace. The AIO did not allow sufficient room for the top-mounted case-control wires to pass. It wanted ALL of the top space for itself. The three large fans make access to the MB's top wire pins nearly impossible. I had to put the plugs on the pins before I installed the fans. I learned two great lessons. Always keep all the packaging handy if you need to return anything and that patience is a virtue. I did get the AIO to work but I wish that I had planned the operation a little bit better.
Hello PC Builder, thank you for these helpful vids! I'm building my first PC and I was wondering, have you done a video about which vertical GPU mounts works best for the newer gen pc parts? Considering on vertical-mounting my GPU but I watched a video saying that there are a lot of issues with it
Vertical mounting a GPU can cause problems due to the GPU fans being too close to the side of the case and not giving them enough airflow.
Other issues can come from the flat cable that connects it to the PCIe slot. GPUs really like to be plugged right in to the motherboard.
I haven't done a lot with that so not the person to speak to it.
@@stevekjr9563 Hi, thank you for your input! Won't be buying a vertical mount anymore
@@PCBuilderChannel Thank you, I decided not to use a vertical mount
I browsed a few of your videos before rebuilding a system it's been about 4 years... Did a push pull configuration exactly as you laid out and my temperatures are frosty as the Arctic!!! Even managed to convince my 7 year old to help me finish the build, she had A-blast thank you so much for the video
Fantastic! Glad you and your daughter had a great time building and so glad we could help!
Just went from noctua D15 to EK AIO 240 for 12700k upgrade in meshify C case. Definitely more space and airflow now in case, but a bit disappointed about the cooling performance (maby it is just the 12gen running too hot when oc) I was not too happy for forced move to aio over air (12gen compatibility issues), but at the end i think i will be AIO guy also on future builds.
Hey, if my liquid cooler fails massively and blows my whole computer, at least it will go out with a bang, never to fade away slowly or feel obsolete.
Note, for a Ryzen 5800x and 5800x3d using a 360mm AIO is highly recommended, they have the same power draw as 5900 and 5950 but they're a single chiplet and will have a higher overall temp.
I have a 5800X and a custom loop setup. The CPU water block runs through a 240mm top-mount with two fans in a push config. During gaming my CPU temps seldom hit 60°C and I see no throttling. I think maybe an AIO is less efficient than a custom loop (because of having less water available to soak up heat.) But if you match the power draw of the CPU and the power capacity of the radiator, you'll be fine in either case. The max power for the 5800X is 219W, so a 240mm AIO with a capacity of 200W+ would be fine. But you have to pay attention (and pay.) The Arctic Freezer II 240mm AIO can handle that much power dissipation. Cheaper ones would have a problem, and would lead to CPU throttling at max load.
If you want a cheaper AIO then yes, a 360mm radiator would be a better option.
The 5800x3D doesn't need that, I have mine running an all out 100% heavy all core load at under 75C on a 120mm AIO. But I did change the fan to a very efficient (and quiet) one that reviewed well. I simply balanced the fan speed to avoid rising temperature at full load, which also evacuated air from the case fast enough to allow me to switch back to a solid top instead of mesh.
The Gamers Nexus review showed 5800x3D had large efficiency gains in their tests, partly due to the new Zen3 stepping which improved the metal layer.
The max PPT is 142W and the TDP 105W, not exactly requiring Intel class cooling.
@@eracer1111never seen anyone recommend more than 240mm for Zen3 8c before.
One thing to note: 280mm radiators are an excellent alternative to 360mm radiators if you don't have the room for a 360 in your case. A 280mm radiator takes two 140mm fans and a 360mm radiator takes three 120mm fans. So while you might think a 280mm radiator is a little over 1/3rd the surface area of a 360mm radiator, it's actually around 90%.
Kinda nervous about installing AIO cooling. Will be picking up the last 2 components for my high end gaming build next Tuesday, Red Devil 7900XTX and 32gb of Trident Z5 Neo, and when i was buying the items at the store i usually go to, i asked the clerk what he recommended to cool a Ryzen 7800X3D. He advised water cooling right off the bat and recommended me none other than the Arctic Liquid Freezer 240, which i ended up buying because it seemed like a very solid option for its price (81 euros).
Starting a 4 day mini vacation Tuesday and will be taking my sweet time building this bad boy, that overall cost more than my current car. Will have to reinstall Cyberpunk 2077 to take it for a test drive. I will be probably rewatching this video a few times, and a few others, to prepare for the build. Last PC i assembled was 4 years ago.
Good old I5 7600 and 1060 will retire for movies, tv shows and youtube only.
The DeepCool LT720 360mm is another great AIO - Has RGB and is a top performer as well for just $140.00 USD- I'm using with my Ryzen 9 7900X / RTX 4090 Build in a white Lian Li EVO Dynamic case. Anyways great review!
Best AIO in the Market....Arctic cooler 360..Better thermals hand's down
Speaking of leakage, here's some anecdotal evidence for you:
I went AiO back on my Haswell system (i5-4670K) when it was just starting to become mainstream, I guess. 2013? 2014? Not sure but around that time.
I used a cheapo 2nd or 3rd gen Corsair H60 (the one with the thicker, more rubber-y looking hoses). I used that thing for years and years, then let the PC sit in storage for a year or so. When I got my hands on it again, I took everything apart, making a beeline for the cooler, because I was afraid it might have gone bad. It was ...errr probably 8 years old at the time.
In any case: The hoses looked totally fine, even though their rubber sleeves both at the waterblock and at the radiator were showing "rips". Looked like the rubber got worn and tired around there. However: There was no visible leakage or anything like that, not on the AiO itself nor anywhere inside the case. When I had taken the H60 out of the case, I gave the radiator a good shake and it was pretty obvious there was less liquid in there (which is to be expected). But there *was* still liquid in there even after all these years.
If you buy an AIO, spend anothe $2 amd get an internal pc speaker. Plug the pump into cpu fan socket, and have the alert on fan fail option enabled. A failed pump will overheat your PC a lot quicker than a failed fan (on either air or water cooler).
My CPU was eating the heat from my 3080ti. While gaming with air cooler 80c. Since I switched to AIO 20c less. Love it !!!!
Nice!
@@PCBuilderChannel is crazy the design of the FE cards. Blowing hot air to the ram an CPU !!
@@tecnocracia09 blame the fact people didn't like the blower style FE cards like the 10 series and 900 series which blew all their air out the back of the case
Mr Bear getting a wave of fresh air in the middle of all those AIO liquid coolers
I got my first PC last month. Absolutely did not hesitate in getting a NZXT Z53 for the cooling, and more importantly, the screen
I'll bet its a cool look!
Of all things, you cat is the coolest.
I´m a Lian-Li Galahad 360 person and just purchased with it, 10 Lian-Li Uni Fans AL 120 for my white/black build ... those fans are simply uncluttered and such a joy to use ...
nice!!
11:14 I have never thought of buying a flexible screwdriver, that is actually smart.
I adore this screwdriver lol! Its linked in the description. (;
ASUS Ryuo 240 AIO is the cat's meow. I even bought a spare Ryuo AIO to keep as a backup for my main rig.
nice!
i ran an NZXT kraken 280mm AIO on my fx8350 for about 7 years, then moved it with NZXTs bracket to my gtx970 for a year, and then on to a 2070 for another year and it was still going strong keeping the 2070 running nearly 2ghz at 55-57 degrees Celsius in games when i went to a full custom loop a couple weeks ago.
If you install the radiator in the front of the case tubes up is not recommended because the air goes to the top of the tubes directly being pumped to the pump, tubes down is optimal.
Im about to build a pc with 3 liquid fans because im abou to build a serious rig for my son. Best buy finally got my parts in :D
Hey! It's Bob Odenkirk again!
Better call PC Builder
Still using a Cryorig a40 for 6 years, unfortunately, not in production anymore. Thought I'd buck the system and try a unknown aio manufacturer, Cryorig. Friggin amazing cooler. They are only doing high end air cooling now, seem to be struggling against the big guys. From what I've read, they're top of the line, low cost but high quality. Do research.
I finally bite the bullet and bought a 240mm AIO for my PC after ever only using air coolers
my air cooler is working fine so it's more an aesthetic choice but if it lowers the temps and allows me to use all 4 RAM slots that's a bonus
Murphy's law.
I run my computer 24/7.
Air cooler to me is a better option.
I use the Aorus 360 AIO with a 12900KS. To gain some better performance, I have replaced the factory CPU contact frame with the Thermalright contact frame. I believe with the i9 SKUs that this should always be installed.
Cat looks gorgeous. I always wanted a Black Panther 😁.
The true star of the channel (:
I like how the cat inspected your work 🐱
Indeed! Mr. Bear is in charge and supervising :)
I bought my first AIO one year ago, it was a Kraken M22 and it recently stopped pumping. Had to upgrade to a Kraken Z63 which was almost 3 times the price, if it doesnt last at least a few years i probably wont buy a NZXT product again. Then again, ive been kinda unlucky when buying new components lately, i usually have to go back to the store every time i buy a component bc its defective. Man, console has its advantages over pc..
Looking at the video thumbnail... it makes sense. Hot air rises, so you'd want your exhaust fans to be at the highest point possible... and consequently, your intake at the lowest.
Just started looking into building my first pc and I gotta say your videos have really helped me out! I was super intimidated by building one myself but from watching several of your videos I think I have a good understanding of everything! Also your cat is super cute!
We are so glad to help! And the cat is the true star of the channel.
I fear it will break and the liquid spill all over the mobo and graphics cards lol.
Edit: also fear your cat in the video messing with the cabling :P just kidding
Thats the fear exactly! But modern AIOs are very safe. The cat messing with the cabling though, thats a thing for sure (;
4:10 the lifespan of air cooler are much longer. Like kind of endless, because it's just a "metal block". If a fan is broken on the air-cooler, just buy another one. A aio can break before this time. Sure, you can swap the fans on the aio too, but not parts like the pump etc.
But the other points are great :) Ty for the video
Your cat reminds me of my first cat Jeremy as a kid. Black cats are so cute! 9:50
As a former owner of a msi mpg 360 aio. Id suggest staying away from aio's that have the pump in the radiator.
Excellent intro to water cooling. Always have used air coolers, but my new i5-1360k runs so hot, it's time to bite the water cooling bullet. This video was just perfect, thanks.
So glad you found it helpful! If you're ready, check our links in the descriptions below. Thanks for watching!
Ive never been sold on AIO setups and tbh a good thought out fan cooled system is just as good in keeping temps down. And just to point out the obvious an AIO still uses fans lol
Its absolutely fine to install the radiator in the front with the tubes on top as long as the inlet and outlet are above the inlet / outlet of the pump (which is almost always the case)
I reverse the rear fan so it's blowing cool air over the VRMs, and it's providing cool air for the top-mounted 270 radiator.
What a great, easy to digest, guide on something a lot of us genuinely fear messing with ... not anymore! Thanks Jason.
So glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching!
I just built my PC the other night with a good air cooler but its BULKY. I didn't know what it'd look like! I'm upgrading to an AIO for my birthday in a month. I was terrified to do an AIO for my first build but once again your video made me feel confident I wish i had seen this before i built! But upgrading seems like its gonna be a breeze 😊
So glad we can help and happy early birthday!
@@PCBuilderChannel thank you so much! 😊
I need to know more about that shirt! Where did you get it? Great vid btw!
This is exactly the video I needed. It's the first time instaling 360mm one for me and I wanted to be sure!
I'm a watercooled guy, it's much more efficient, not more complicated (what is a pain are the RGB fans, it's not dependent on AIO), and it looks much better than an iron put in a rig ! 😁
It's even better on GPUs, like -30C and no noise at all !!
I use Alphacool stuff (Eisbaer and Esiwolf2), it's good, a bit expensive (comparable to EK) but may be hard to get outside of Europe
Nice!
Jason you are the freaking best
We love to hear it! Thanks for watching (;
I used to be one of those "liquid is too much trouble to install and maintain for the risk, I don't do anything so heavy that I need that much cooling". Fast forward to today, streaming, gaming in 1440p, content creation with video editing, and the advancements made in AIOs, the need went up and the risk came down, but my current $30 air cooler is doing pretty well, I just went with 5 pure wings 2 fans on the case and put Kryonaut on GPU and CPU. I'll probably invest in an AIO this year as my workload gets more intense and I look at higher end GPUs, but for now, I'm doing pretty awesome temps and it's VERY quiet, though the cost of 5 140mm pure wings 2 was nothing to scoff at, and AIO may have accomplished the same temps and noise level with the old cheapo case fans, but I won't know for sure til I try it I guess
Beautiful cat. A mini panther.
This really helped clear up some of the things I was fuzzy on. And it looks like your cat takes it's job as Build Supervisor as seriously as mine does lol
Glad it helped! Yes the cat ensures I do everything properly. He's the tech expert around here!
So glad it was helpful! And yes the cat boss has to be involved (;
Very interesting and helpful. I am surprised the best ones are the cheapest. Not expected at all.
Only do a AIO if you’re really not into water cooling only do custom cooling if you plan on upgrading your system down the line multiple times and only do air cooling if you really don’t care about any of that and you just want to set up your PC and use it stick with air cooling but also don’t use crappy parts don’t cheap out on anything in your build.
Nice discussion on placing the AIO. Very clear. 👏🏻
16:16 duuuuuude your cat made my day
The true star of the channel (;
I run my AIO pump at 100%. Been told long term running it lower is not good. Not that it makes any sound anyway.
The cost is the main factor for me. The cheapest 240mm AIO for me is $88 AUD for the ML240L, whereas the Hyper 212X I'm running is half that price, and that's not even the cheapest fan cooler. I know $40 AUD may not seem like much, but it's enough to mean a better motherboard, better RAM, bigger SSD, etc.
Totally understandable! Like we talk about in the Liquid vs Air cooling section of the video budget price is one of the factors where Air can take the win.
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That's great to hear! Welcome to the channel (:
Your honestly the best channel I’ve found for good information on pc building
Glad you like it! :)
It has always made more sense to me to give fresh air to the radiator from the front panel. Since hot air rises faster than cold air, it is easier to evacuate the hot air inside the case. I do not recommend sending the hot air inside the case to the radiator, the purpose should be to keep the liquid in the radiator cold.
Adjust the speed of the radiator fans according to the processor temperature.
If you have enough exhaust fans, you can try the installation as I said.
I actually bought a aio for my first build a few months ago, works great
Building my first ever pc today. Hopefully I don’t fry the cpu, break the ram sticks or mess up on my airflow orientation.
Corsair 5000D RGB case
I’m thinking of putting my AIO on top as outtake, the. 3 120s on front, one 120mm intake on the bottom, and one 120mm on back as outtake.
I can't be the only one waiting on Jason's next vid so I end up commenting on an old video I've watch already..... love the info and content Jason! btw the best descriptions on TH-cam! every damn video! love that
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Keep the helpful content coming!!!😀👍
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My Arctic Freeze II 360 is coming in in a couple of days. First time using liquid to cool. Im not sure if I want to front mount it or top mount it. I'm putting it inside a Corsair 5000d Airflow. I picked up a 4090 and a 7700x. The 7700x came with free 32gig DDR5 3000 Mhz ram. I can't wait to build this puppy. I'm coming from an i7 6700k with a 1080ti. Should be an insane upgrade for me.
Thanks for your nice video, and these days it's hard to find a TH-camr with 122K subscriber that replies every single comment on his channel thank you. (a viewer from Turkey)
I try! Thank you for the kind words!
Both my gaming PCs have wc aio. My oldest is around 6 yrs old, running a nzxt kraken 280 rad. Still works great on my i5 6600k overclocked.
I've just purchased NZXT X53 and also replaced the front panel of my PC with mesh filter, Seeing 25-30 degrees temp difference, it's baffling now knowing I could have my PC on 60-70 degrees when gaming
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