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Episode 6 show notes
In the final episode of Sweet Bobby, Kirat’s case against the catfisher takes an unexpected turn. As Alexi is putting the finishing touches to the series, he gets a phone call that changes everything.
Sweet Bobby is a multi-part investigation in search of one of the world’s most sophisticated catfishers. It’s a story about who we are online, and how social media can be weaponised as a tool of abuse and coercion.
Show credits
Alexi Mostrous - Presenter
Gary Marshall - Producer
Claudia Williams - Assistant producer and additional reporting
Karla Patella - Sound design
Basia Cummings - Executive producer
the father sounds so selfish, when he said he's upset that the family relations are not the same and the grandfather is hurt and the whole family is hurt, never once does he say hes upset for his daughter... and when he reiterates that the family is so decent.. Nowhere does he sound protective of his daughter. I feel like I as a stranger on the internet am more protective and angry on behalf of kirat.
awful family reaction, they should be ashamed of themselves. the dad has shown not one sign of affection to his daughter. shocking
"this is unfortunate" he said, "it shouldn't have happened"
It's not like there was a bit of unforeseen rain that wet her shoes, you prick. Your daughter was deliberately mentally hurt not for days, not for months, but for years. He is a bad father
I am still thinking about “ what was simran arguing with her brother about before she came in to confess to kirat??? ”
What if the brother had some involvement too?
Wait what if those different male voices…….or some of them…..
Maybe the argument went something like simran’s brother telling her not to confess or something 😮😮
Yes! My thoughts exactly. I don't know why the brother of Sim was not mentioned later. I'm sure the brother has answers as to her motive. So many questions but few answers. This has to be the most unique, mind-boggling, thrilling catfish story I've ever heard.
She had told the parents at that point so obviously the brother knew. He was prob sent there by the parents to ensure the girl came clean cuz they expected her to not continue pursuing police reports etc.
good luck girl get your justice that apology letter may be admissible in criminal court they do that in the us when they want
manipulation is something so common, why do you think this story spanning 10 years can be believable. Although not common, it still can happen. If something knows how to emotional manipulate you they can get by with so much, especially if the person is in a vulnerable state. Simran deserves to face some consequence and honestly I feel for those around her as she could easily do this to other people. Kirat can hopefully move forward and continue to bring awareness to what happened. This is abuse on various levels and the justice system really needs to catch up with the changing world.
What goes around comes around, and u cant completely manipulate and distroy someone's life the way simren bhogal did without the universe serving simren, her comupance one day. I feel for kirat, her dads reaction is typical to many asian parents- its sad they think of the community before their own.
@ORB It is absolutely part of the issue. Traditional cultures across the board do not value women, they value reputation.
@Zoey their race and community was mentioned many times! What are you talkin about ‽😅
@Zoey are you Asian, did this feel a little close to home? You know it had somthing to do with their culture how the family, father and community reacted
@Zoey to*
That karma stuff is complete nonsense
I’ve dated guys who has manipulated me as well. Who has been controlling. When I had a party to go to, then all of a sudden they don’t feel well. And I had to stay to look after him. It doesn’t just happen within days. It’s months and months of manipulation. And Simran could pull the strings as she knew Kierats next moves. Kierat had no idea Bobby was Simran… she had full control. This is so scary… that Simran is still out there, who’s going to be her next victim… she’ll soon get bored and start again.
True 😢
Alexis, my thoughts are that Simran was possibly attracted to Kirat and this was a way of having a relationship with her
Finished listening to all the parts….so messed up. I’ve been catfished a few times on dating sites, but I now put in my profile that I’m not communicating off the app until we have at least met in person once.
Funny enough - I randomly met someone at Pokémon Go Fest in Chicago in 2019 to do a trade with, and the profile def seemed suspicious. But I actually met said person - and we have become pen palls. She just doesn’t like social media and only created an FB page cause she wanted to use messenger. But key thing is…we have met in person, and it took off from there.
Knowing her family reactions, I can totally understand WHY Keirat turned to Simran(Bobby) a total stranger. She was devoid of love & trust which made her trust & love a stranger. But for Simran I can only say that she is narcissistic person suffering from BPD, she has tons of mental issues which are right now shoved under the carpet but will eventually come back and bite her one fine day
Horrible to see Simran having an active blog about her daily life on instagram that too under her real full name i.e Simran Kaur Bhogal and is literally living off her life while her big cousin sister has lost everything and is traumatized for life because of her, what a psycopath!
Whats her ig name?
Typical Indian father response.
I hope Kirat gets justice
a VP at a bank isn't a "high powered job" it's low on the totem pole of officers at a bank
allright give me a notice in 2 more years
Why 2 y ? You get 10 m
I don’t think Simran wrote that second apology letter. I think her parents wrote it
Nah, they wouldnt have so much emotion in it
Kirat was too quick to jump in and advise JJ, an adolescent, how to get back with a distant cousin she barely knew (Simran) - i cannot imagine getting drawn into such an ongoing text exchange with someone half my age when I was 30. Maybe she was talking to JJ or maybe she was talking to Simran, who knows? but I'll bet it was those exchanges that kicked this whole thing off. Why on earth was she chatting repeatedly with Simran's boyfriend???
Her dad wants her to stop because he sees her pursuing the case as hurting the decent family members of the girl. It has nothing to do with patriarchal-ness or etc. He genuinely sees the family members as his daughters victim, and he has a point. But it does not mean she should stop fighting for justice.
True- I dont think he does not feel bad for kirat its just that im asian culture- familial ties are really given more importance and u are right- I am sure the embarrassment and humiliation that the other family also experienced to have a daughter like simran is also a lot to take because they know she was in the wrong and that the sin of the daughter is not the sin of the entire family. simran has no idea how much her actions not only hurt kirat but also her own family. It is much more heavier to have a child who grew up to do psychotic things than a normal and loving one like Kirat. I do believe that Simran had an obsession with Kirat when she described her as “cool” and possibly created all this fiasco because of her obsession with her but it got too deep to get out already. also, i do think simran has some mental issues. If Kirat pursued the case, Simran could just come up with a mental health issue and I dont know if in UK that is excusable. However, I do believe that Simran is dangerous and must be seen by a doctor.
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Seems Simran assumed more was shared b/t JJ & Kirat in early communication, aka her perhaps assuming JJ had already exposed her (Simran's unnecessary, self-damaging, fantastical lies) & she created Bobby/JJ's death to end Kirat uncovering or perhaps empathizing with her own crazy through deflection. If S had any kind of emotional integrity/maturity she wouldn't have needed to resort to these tactics to develop her most intimate relationships. Online or off, varied levels of this type of forgery/social manipulation/isolation tactics resonate/are more relatable than we may like to admit, but this 10+ year charade takes the cake!
Yeah its so sad for Kirat. I wish her the best of luck in her future.
Kirat’s dad did show compassion. It’s just hard for him to overlook his daughter’s naiveté as well as the scorched earth vengeance mission she is on and her lack of concern about how she is hurting him and her family (from his perspective)
Her dad is selfish
She was insanely gullible
It doesn't actually matter if she was. She was still abused and mentally tortured. Blaming the victim isn't really helpful. Especially not when the perpetrator is showing signs of being a master manipulater thriving of other people's weakness. Would you shame a mentally disabled or old person being tricked? No, the perpetrator targeting the weak people are really much worse and really very sadistic.
At one point she might have been a bit naive, but that's not a crime. And further long she was broken down. You don't know if she was brought up not questioning or trusting her own feelings. Some kids are. Either way it's really not helpful shaming her. Do shame the awful and sadistic perpetrator. There is where the blame lies.
@kesses9041 I really don't care about your hypotheticals. She's not disabled or elderly she's stupid.
@@kesses9041I don’t think this person who made the gullible comment is sincere… this could be Simran herself. She could be listening making all these comments… making Kieran sound pathetic. Honestly the world is messed up.
@@SirMorlett simran!
Stop victim blaming. Even kids are guillable, should we do whatever we want with them. Is it their fault for being guillable? There are many people like evil like simran and naive like kirat in this world. What's wrong is wrong.
I can understand Kirat's father's reaction. If this happened to my daughter I would be ashamed to have raised someone so gullible. I wouldn't want people to know about how she was fooled and manipulated for EIGHT years.
Weell you are not a good human being
You don't need to imagine a hypothetical situation where you would be ashamed, because by this comment you brought shame to yourself already - a bad parent
Disgusting. If I was her parent I wouldn't stop until there was justice.
She was sucked in just like so many people who are catfished into believing ridiculous stories, & who let themselves stay in abusive online "relationships".
The podcast spins a story & ignores some facts, like:
- she didn't waste 10 years, she was in the online "relationship" for 3 years.
- there were obvious red flags/inconsistencies & things she could have checked all along the way, eg "knows" the family, but never checked on Bobby's job or whereabouts, or his brother's supposed demise.
- if a married man was sharing with me what he should be sharing with his wife, i would tell him to do that, not keep on so he leaves the wife for me, falling for me online - it's immoral and ridiculous.
- she was 34 and still single so can't blame her cousin for ruining her chances of getting her own family imo - it was 3 years of waiting for an about to die online boyfriend by her own choice.
It's spin a story & gloss over facts just to come up with a victim storyline. With biased journalist.
Both these women are emotionally unsound/immature.
Simran explained herself in the personal apology. It's aligned with what I've seen of other female catfishers who get a crush on someone and let the deception spiral out of control.
The vicious lawyer period was because Simran realised there could be consequences & sought help.
I've ended up agreeing with the family - should have been left private, & the victim should have moved on.
However, the dishonest and dysfunctional way Simran copes with her personal tensions means i think it's better she isn't in a powerful job - she was going to come a cropper sooner or later with her immaturity & dysfunction.
As to the victim's dad, i thought he was very polite & restrained. Hell, my family are far worse & i cope, & I'm independent and take care of myself. I don't blame others for my own failings or make demands on others like K does.
Why is it a flex that you have no crutch to stand on if life hits you? You sound lonely, nothing to be proud of. And it's completely ridiculous to do victim blaming. It is completely irrelevant what kind of character Kiran was - I don't think she was gullible or naive, but even if she was, that doesn't change the fact Simran was to blame. Kiran did nothing wrong.
Also, if you think her dad was fine by not having a decency to feel protective of his daughter's mental life but more bothered about his or his family's reputation, I feel bad for you, pitiful really. And your parents were awful to you and you what, proud of it? You should learn from them and know how NOT to behave. Do better
What do you mean come up with a victim story? Gullible or not, she is a victim.
Simran Bhogal was promoted to COO of Barclays Bank in 2018 and that salary pays 500k a year. I think most of Kirat’s motivation for seeking Justice is not necessarily because she was victimized but because her abuser is so high status and wants to destroy her. Which is fair at the end of the day
Ofc she wants some sort of payback. But she was victimized.
If this would have happend to me, wich it would never because im not that naive, 10 y of my life. I would want to destroy the person