How the ***** could this not be a crime!!!! This broke my heart that her grandmother ASKED for forgiveness for not staying alive for their marriage!!! There is no words for this I’m speechless
Jeez, I get so angry at people like this girl, people with seemingly no empathy. How does she even have a fiance? Or a decent life? Absolutely crazy to think about
I haven't been able to sleep well since I listen to this podcast and Netflix series. I think just being an audience is so disturbing. I wonder how Kirat is able to deal with this.
Actively running a lie for a day or a week is a hard enough task for a person with a conscience. But 9yrs? The only positive is everyone including Simrans prospective partner will know what shes capable of.
I sense simran is possibly a lesbian, but unable to come out because its shun upon in the culture. So she kept this facade and secret life. Simran got jealous a lot over Kirats interaction with other people. Also Simran participated in the intimacy.
I think your on to something here- its a bit stretched for just hatred and jealousy. She spent nights with her on the phone- intimate chats- you cant do that without having something there
I had a friend who said she lies because she likes the feeling of power (over others) she gets from seeing people believing her. I've had people tell me tall tales, i just say oh yes in a neutral way & thereafter avoid them. Highly intelligent people can be psychopaths. I had a highly intelligent friend at work who i realised was deliberately toying with me & upsetting me, just because she was bored.
I feel like in most cultures this is a common thing where they just want to “sweep it under the rug” cause they are embarrassed to have the conversation that needs to be done. It sad really but the reality in most cultures.
IM DYING TO KNOW HER ASTROLOGICAL CHART!!! And Kirat’s as well. I know Kirat’s bday is sometime in february so I’m thinking Pisces, the sweethearts of the zodiac.
At the start of episode one, JJ reached out to kirat asking for sisterly advice regarding Simran. Is it possible the reason why she catfished kirat because of jealousy? In her mind maybe she thought why did JJ go to kirat for advice regarding me? Maybe she got offended and started down the dark path.
Simran is a psycho. But so is Kirat. You have to be mentally ill to believe all those lies. Witness protection? It really actually wasn't that sophisticated a catfish scandal. Kirat needs professional help as well as simran. Must run in the family.
The victim should keep putting the pressure on Simran so that at the very least Simran runs up a huge legal bill. Not to mention the inconvenience and damage to her reputation. Better yet, the victim should have kept it "as a private family matter", as Simran purports it is, and organise for Simran and her family to be paid a visit by some big "friendly" men who just want to "play" and join in the "fun".
She used to make 500k at her VP job at barklays bank. I don’t think the legal bills will make a dent to her net worth. Kirat on the other hand, may lose a lot of money in this whole process. Kirat’s lawyer fees were already paid by Simran for the civil suit she settled with Simran though.
I think this way it is better. May be do a netflix series. It may not affect her physically or financially but mentally its gonna be a big blow. Just imagine having a youtube and a netflix series dramatised and portraying u the villain. It is gonna stay out there forever. Uv gotta live with that.
There’s a part of me that would want to do the same back to her! To sit on it and now, three years later, where we are by this episode, now that she’s in a relationship and about to be married I would wanna destroy her world too! There’s another part of me that knows that’s wrong, but wow! Sick and twisted!
Understandable but you would be wasting even more of your life on them and be consumed by thinking about them. In a twisted way it would provide them even more validation, because they still control you. If you are not naturally inclined to do this kind of thing they will see through you in no time, then play along, letting you think you are playing them but it's actually the other way around...
What kind of a close knit community is this?? Where you cant know for 10 years if a person is dead or alive, if one is shot 6 times and is in witness protection, if one is with his wife and child!!! It’s bad what happened to her but come on you get engaged to someone you haven’t seen or talked to once!! This is beyond stupidity.
I will try to explain this in the words of a friend of mine,” when she was 16 to 21. I was a very imaginative person. I created stories about my self since I was younger before the times of social media. I would tell my friends I have a fairy that comes to see me. I created scenarios with my friends about faking who I was when I met random strangers at weddings and enjoyed their reactions. I also enjoyed lying to one my older cousins that a guy who actually liked me liked her and enjoyed her falling in love with him. I enjoyed her being stupid and getting lead on by me to fall in love with him. I mean I got a kick out of it. I have made fake profiles and liked my own pictures. I have created scenarios where I wanted to gain sympathy. I have done all of it to just get a joy out of creating a perception about myself. Lied through my teeth. So that explains why she did it. She went just a little too extreme. Caught up and she needs to own up to what she did.
I watched the Netflix documentary. I don't get how you get engaged to someone you have never met, has been shot six times, had a stroke, is in the witness protection program, and then appears to be a groomer. She would have gone to visit in the hospital, right? And the catfisher is presumably a bank vice president, and I easily found what appears to be the catfisher's profile on LinkedIn. So, are we, the audience, being catfished?
"bobby" was "shot" in the beginning of this whole ordeal and he "damaged" his vocal cords. IF they ever talked he whispered. when they talked on Skype he never activated the video. he was typing while she was talking. this deceit goes deep.
I think this day and age, they should consider some strong laws against situations like this. I saw on Reddit people were Victim blaming. Like how she didn't understand and how did she fall for it. Grown women but very delulu. But, I guess you really don't know how it feels until person goes thru something like this. I think they should start a research and conduct study of different situations. Based on that come up with laws. @@megiwpiegi773
The narrator said what was Simran motive for doing all this Power money sex 8 almost laughed at that. I dont think most 17-18 years really think of those things. It must have started out as a bit of fun that escalated well into her adult years.
Oh, you have no idea how mean and conniving such people can be at an early age! If you look into some of the schemes school bullies come up with to lay traps for their victims...and they are much younger than 17-18. Power and control are irresistible to some people.
Very interesting podcast but I am sorry, I cannot feel sorry for her. Eleanor Roosevelt said that people can only treat you as badly as you let them. When "Bobby" was being mean to her, you use the Block functionality on your phone and apps like Facebook. Its not hard, I have done it many times. I can understand letting someone waste 1 or even 2 years of your life but 8 - where was the internal conversation that said that "this person has wasted X many years of my life, why would I give over any more" when she was clearly getting nothing out of it? Peculiar behaviour on both sides.
I think they said on another episode that the initial conversations had been going on for a few years before the relationship had even begun, and it was only during the relationship that Bobby started being mean. I find it hard to understand as well, but I guess if someone has been friendly with you for years, and you have all these other people (which were also fake profiles) telling you how good of a person they are, then it could be easy to fall for it.
Sometimes people are in denial. Imagine the psychological damage this has done to Kirat? Of course, it was naive. But it’s not right to turn the blame on her.
@@samihasamin5813yes, you understand this thing only when you are in abusive relationship.they mess up our mind so bad and isolate from our well wishers. They are so good at manipulation.
Never do victim blaming just because you were never in an abusive relationship or never could be. They are some naive people in this world, they are made that way. It's the fault of those who takes advantage of their innocence.
She ended up being in an a toxic relationship where you basically loose yourself she was very young and how it’s coming off very inexperienced with men and the whole thing just consumed her it’s really sad
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I’m so glad they used simran’s real name. The humiliation her family and her are experiencing from this podcast is pure happiness ❤️
Usually I would say it’s not the families fault but they haven’t spoken out against her to kirat or anyone else so they deserve what’s coming.
How the ***** could this not be a crime!!!! This broke my heart that her grandmother ASKED for forgiveness for not staying alive for their marriage!!! There is no words for this I’m speechless
Jeez, I get so angry at people like this girl, people with seemingly no empathy. How does she even have a fiance? Or a decent life? Absolutely crazy to think about
not sure about relationship but she had a high up job at Barclays Bank. She doesn't work there anymore though.
Someone forward this podcast to simran's fiance , he needs to run away from this psychopath.
Her fiancé could be another victim she is a master manipulator
Narcissists and master manipulators tend to get their way in life.
@@shahlabegum4237 they're already married with a kid.
Simran should be in prison, seriously theres so many sick people out there and their families love them so much that they stand up for them.
...Unless, Simran isn't real and we've been duped by the catfishee
I haven't been able to sleep well since I listen to this podcast and Netflix series. I think just being an audience is so disturbing. I wonder how Kirat is able to deal with this.
The facts that Simran gets to live her life normally shocks me to the core. Why are police not doing anything??? Catfishing is illegal right???
catfishing is not a crime in uk
I had people use my images to play games with people online in the US. It's not a crime unless things turn violent unfortunately
13:02 I teared up coz my grandma is the closest to me as well. Nobody shld experience this moment 😭😥
Actively running a lie for a day or a week is a hard enough task for a person with a conscience. But 9yrs? The only positive is everyone including Simrans prospective partner will know what shes capable of.
How is this not a crime
Simran is a sociopath! They don’t have feelings or care about anyone.
HOW is she engaged?!!!!!
Poor guy he needs saving... imagine being married to a pathological liar with that level of mental sickness
I sense simran is possibly a lesbian, but unable to come out because its shun upon in the culture. So she kept this facade and secret life. Simran got jealous a lot over Kirats interaction with other people. Also Simran participated in the intimacy.
No, she is jealous and hated kirat for no reason
I think she’s just perverted and wants power. This isn’t her first time doing it
I think your on to something here- its a bit stretched for just hatred and jealousy. She spent nights with her on the phone- intimate chats- you cant do that without having something there
I had a friend who said she lies because she likes the feeling of power (over others) she gets from seeing people believing her.
I've had people tell me tall tales, i just say oh yes in a neutral way & thereafter avoid them.
Highly intelligent people can be psychopaths.
I had a highly intelligent friend at work who i realised was deliberately toying with me & upsetting me, just because she was bored.
💯
💯!!! selfish and controlling
Psychopaths and sociopaths are NOT the same thing
I feel like in most cultures this is a common thing where they just want to “sweep it under the rug” cause they are embarrassed to have the conversation that needs to be done. It sad really but the reality in most cultures.
true!!
None of this in the Netflix doc, which I understand. Glad families on both sides of this story no longer have control of this tragedy.
Who wants to bet that Simran is a scorpio
Hahaha my thoughts exactly!!!
Who the fuck cares shes a psychopath
I wa thinking Sagittarius but Scorpio and sag r neighbors
IM DYING TO KNOW HER ASTROLOGICAL CHART!!! And Kirat’s as well. I know Kirat’s bday is sometime in february so I’m thinking Pisces, the sweethearts of the zodiac.
Gemini forsure
Simran must be punished. Its not okay to normalize this kind of situation.
At the start of episode one, JJ reached out to kirat asking for sisterly advice regarding Simran. Is it possible the reason why she catfished kirat because of jealousy? In her mind maybe she thought why did JJ go to kirat for advice regarding me? Maybe she got offended and started down the dark path.
Those who said people that work in the city on high end jobs dont do anything Simran is a prime example the girl had to much time on her hands 😂
Excellent podcast, so well researched. It is a real treat to listen to something that has be explored and investigated as well as this has. 5 stars.
Simran is a psycho. But so is Kirat. You have to be mentally ill to believe all those lies. Witness protection? It really actually wasn't that sophisticated a catfish scandal. Kirat needs professional help as well as simran. Must run in the family.
😂I was thinking the same thing. Kirat is just as problematic in this entire fantasy. 9 years? No excuse
You have to be mentally ill to believe your relatives and 30 other people your family and community knows? 🤔
I think she also has multiple personality disorder. She definitely needs help because this is dangerous and she should not be outside Lock her in.
The victim should keep putting the pressure on Simran so that at the very least Simran runs up a huge legal bill. Not to mention the inconvenience and damage to her reputation. Better yet, the victim should have kept it "as a private family matter", as Simran purports it is, and organise for Simran and her family to be paid a visit by some big "friendly" men who just want to "play" and join in the "fun".
She used to make 500k at her VP job at barklays bank. I don’t think the legal bills will make a dent to her net worth. Kirat on the other hand, may lose a lot of money in this whole process. Kirat’s lawyer fees were already paid by Simran for the civil suit she settled with Simran though.
I think this way it is better. May be do a netflix series. It may not affect her physically or financially but mentally its gonna be a big blow.
Just imagine having a youtube and a netflix series dramatised and portraying u the villain. It is gonna stay out there forever. Uv gotta live with that.
@@madhusreechakraborty7374boy do I have some news for u lol
I literally came here from the trailer of the Netflix documentary 💀
Lol me too
. Great episode
19:50 ish & other times thru out this doc I’m wondering..”is there no HIPPA laws in these places?!”
Would it be a HIPPA violation for Simran/Bobby or Kirat for giving away someone's medical information?
There’s a part of me that would want to do the same back to her! To sit on it and now, three years later, where we are by this episode, now that she’s in a relationship and about to be married I would wanna destroy her world too! There’s another part of me that knows that’s wrong, but wow! Sick and twisted!
Understandable but you would be wasting even more of your life on them and be consumed by thinking about them. In a twisted way it would provide them even more validation, because they still control you. If you are not naturally inclined to do this kind of thing they will see through you in no time, then play along, letting you think you are playing them but it's actually the other way around...
I just hope that her fiancé was properly warned about what she is capable of.
What kind of a close knit community is this?? Where you cant know for 10 years if a person is dead or alive, if one is shot 6 times and is in witness protection, if one is with his wife and child!!!
It’s bad what happened to her but come on you get engaged to someone you haven’t seen or talked to once!! This is beyond stupidity.
I will try to explain this in the words of a friend of mine,” when she was 16 to 21.
I was a very imaginative person. I created stories about my self since I was younger before the times of social media. I would tell my friends I have a fairy that comes to see me. I created scenarios with my friends about faking who I was when I met random strangers at weddings and enjoyed their reactions. I also enjoyed lying to one my older cousins that a guy who actually liked me liked her and enjoyed her falling in love with him. I enjoyed her being stupid and getting lead on by me to fall in love with him. I mean I got a kick out of it. I have made fake profiles and liked my own pictures. I have created scenarios where I wanted to gain sympathy. I have done all of it to just get a joy out of creating a perception about myself. Lied through my teeth. So that explains why she did it. She went just a little too extreme. Caught up and she needs to own up to what she did.
" a little too extreme' ????? What an understatement
So basically you enjoy manipulating people and you’re a shitty person. Thank you. Amazing.
Simran is that you?
So she was in the car with her driving her home AFTER she find out... She got the right one because she would have been walking back
I watched the Netflix documentary. I don't get how you get engaged to someone you have never met, has been shot six times, had a stroke, is in the witness protection program, and then appears to be a groomer. She would have gone to visit in the hospital, right? And the catfisher is presumably a bank vice president, and I easily found what appears to be the catfisher's profile on LinkedIn. So, are we, the audience, being catfished?
I think she was using the cousin as practice, and was catfishing someone she was actually obsessed with
If that's practice, Im terrified of the actual catfishing she will do
Please tell me this B got fired or something. Anything
she left the job voluntarily rather that being fired.
How did she speak to her and put on a man’s voice?
"bobby" was "shot" in the beginning of this whole ordeal and he "damaged" his vocal cords. IF they ever talked he whispered. when they talked on Skype he never activated the video. he was typing while she was talking. this deceit goes deep.
Why they never showed her face ? They show have put her real picture in the documentary. I would sue her for everything.
Who the hell is Simran getting engaged too?
Why are they not suing her? Is this not a thing in England
there was a civil case against her
I think there is no criminal law for particularly catfishers in the UK.
@@Moonlight-in-sg7345 you're right. There's not
I think this day and age, they should consider some strong laws against situations like this. I saw on Reddit people were Victim blaming. Like how she didn't understand and how did she fall for it. Grown women but very delulu. But, I guess you really don't know how it feels until person goes thru something like this. I think they should start a research and conduct study of different situations. Based on that come up with laws. @@megiwpiegi773
Music is really distracting from what’s being said. This is half-way through. Hopefully it’s temporary…
The narrator said what was Simran motive for doing all this Power money sex 8 almost laughed at that. I dont think most 17-18 years
really think of those things. It must have started out as a bit of fun that escalated well into her adult years.
What dosnt 17-18 y o think of ? 😅
Oh, you have no idea how mean and conniving such people can be at an early age! If you look into some of the schemes school bullies come up with to lay traps for their victims...and they are much younger than 17-18. Power and control are irresistible to some people.
REally? But where does the $ come from?
18:54 Lmg it’s her Make a Wish right? 🤥😖
Mr Ballen
Very interesting podcast but I am sorry, I cannot feel sorry for her. Eleanor Roosevelt said that people can only treat you as badly as you let them. When "Bobby" was being mean to her, you use the Block functionality on your phone and apps like Facebook. Its not hard, I have done it many times. I can understand letting someone waste 1 or even 2 years of your life but 8 - where was the internal conversation that said that "this person has wasted X many years of my life, why would I give over any more" when she was clearly getting nothing out of it? Peculiar behaviour on both sides.
I think they said on another episode that the initial conversations had been going on for a few years before the relationship had even begun, and it was only during the relationship that Bobby started being mean. I find it hard to understand as well, but I guess if someone has been friendly with you for years, and you have all these other people (which were also fake profiles) telling you how good of a person they are, then it could be easy to fall for it.
Sometimes people are in denial. Imagine the psychological damage this has done to Kirat? Of course, it was naive. But it’s not right to turn the blame on her.
@@samihasamin5813yes, you understand this thing only when
you are in abusive relationship.they mess up our mind so bad and isolate from our well wishers. They are so good at manipulation.
Never do victim blaming just because you were never in an abusive relationship or never could be. They are some naive people in this world, they are made that way. It's the fault of those who takes advantage of their innocence.
She ended up being in an a toxic relationship where you basically loose yourself she was very young and how it’s coming off very inexperienced with men and the whole thing just consumed her it’s really sad