I don’t think you understand that she was targeted. The relationship aspect of it doesn’t matter. She said herself that the romantic aspect only began at the end. She was targeted by psycho simran who elaborated this from the beginning. Use your brain.
What doesnt add up is if they all knew each other within Kenyan Sikh community, how much ppl didnt talk about dire situations like getting shot, being in witness protection, brother dying... like all of these never came about in such a long period of time?? Something about story feels like there is more to this story than being told
that's what i also was wondering. a) how simran had time for all this while working? b) how the hell noone talked about it in the community? they allegedly knew bobby's family right?
@@the-girly-talks I don't believe that Simran was this high-powered professional executive and also texted Kirat 50+ times daily. Absurd. Kirat is exagerating the lengths Simran went to, in order to make herself seem less gullible. The real truth is probably closer to a few texts per week, and would make Kirat look even more foolish.
Yes exactly! Probably Kirat was in a phase of desperation after breaking up with a long term boyfriend at 32 and was ready to lap up anything. Also zhe comes across as someone with poor judgement the way she explains her years preceeding this. She is probably exagerating few bits to make it look like she wasnt stupid
Sorry but why was she speaking to Bobby knowing he was a married man. I think she had a crush on him and her cousin knew and used that info to catfish her using her own fantasies.
I’m so confused by this podcast I feel like I’m being brainwashed lol. Some of this is completely different to what I just watched on Netflix. I swear Sanju was the one on Facebook who announced Bobby “been shot” instead of a friend of bobbys. And since in what part of the Netflix did he die or lose his memory? I recall hearing of a stroke and voice loss but not memory loss. And there was no mention of JJ’s death in the documentary. Am I missing something here?
Exactly my thoughts there was no JJ dying, sanj posted bobby has been shot, and the picture of him with wores was sent later by one of his cousins not posted on fb???and bobby dying??? It was never mentioned
yea they left out huge parts in the netflix series, they left out JJ dying and bobby “dying” . it’s the same story netflix just picked and chose what to include in it
Kirat has missed billions of red flags. A lot of questions left not answered. How come within 10 years she couldn’t see the real page on Facebook of Bobby. In my opinion she is not opening the real truth. Both Kirat and her cousin are not ok, maybe it’s something in the family. 10 years talking on Skype without a video, seriously?)) No pictures sent except the one picture from the hospital? No voice messages???She was avoiding the truth herself. She didn’t want to wake up. But the main problem is the family pressure of course. Until now all what she wants just to get married 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ The problem is inside the family. All her life she is trying to prove them something. They brake her from inside. She is traumatized. Her real wish, actually obsession, not Bobby, but to make her society happy. Such problem is always exists in the culture where the women are pressed and devalued.
I totally agree. Something about this handsome cardiologist who wanted to marry her was especially important in light of her culture, plus I think she had some mental vulnerabilities.
she was in her late 30s and desperate to marry. and the story was that bobby was unwell and in witness protection. also 10 years...3 years they just talked on and off as friends. so i guess it's around 6 years of this. it's 9 years not 10 years, not that it makes much of a diff.
I'm 2:00 minutes in to the audio and I understood immediately why Kirat recommended listening to this podcast first, prior to the Documentary on Netflix. Herein the story is presented on another level !! 👏👏
I can’t understand how you can be in a relationship with someone where is only you sending videos and voicemails. Did they ever talk on the phone? No facetime nothing? There is something missing! Everyone speaks on the phone, how you are engaged to someone you never heard their voice in 10 years?? She knew and was in love with her fantasy, there is no other way to explain it!
@adamturk7583 not really, she felt like all of her community knew that person she was talking to, and that her cousins has met with him in person before
@@vivavidadela exactly. It’s not like he was always in a coma!! And forget him why didn’t he respect her enough to put her in touch with his friends or family in person. How did non of them WANT to meet her especially after he proposed. Kirat asked for this!
If Simran is/was this highly mentally disturbed (possibly an undiagnosed mental illness) isn’t the untimely sudden unsolved death of her ex JJ also alarming? Could she be behind that and wanted to torture her next victim (her cousin who she knew used to talk to him)? All alleged here
It is a common misconception to attribute naivety or lack of awareness to people who get tricked/scammed/lied to. In reality, it's not the case. Besides, the longevity of this particular catfishing case IS the reason Kirat got to trust "Bobby"
Even the way she’s recalling her conversations with all of these fake characters sounds like she’s delusional. She’s still speaking about all of these events as if they were true! She sounds mental. If she knew so many people “personally” then how come not one conversation took place in person with any of them! Why is nobody asking the hard Qs that are very obvious
She addressed this in a recent interview and intentionally talks about it like they were real and you need to remember that in this podcast, for people who don't know the story, she has to talk about it like the fake characters are real so that it is more shocking to find out who the catfisher is.
@ I thought that but still she’s not a trained actress is she? She’s fully still living in the fantasy! People also mostly already know the story because when it happened the BBC wrote about it. Wasn’t that shocking. stop defending her.
I don't think Simran did all of these things alone as a teenage school girl. I mean, all of these fake accounts,fake people,a lot of time for texting and calls and stuff!! There might be few other teenagers with her, who started doing all of these things for fun and then it all went too far!
I feel that Kirat might have felt a bit insecure approaching Bobby at the club. She must've been crushing on him by then. Maybe she felt that she wasn't attractive enough for him.
Yeah..she got that right..she was not attractive at all..she should have thought it was too.good to be true..why would someone who used to date a girl.like.sanj would go.for her
"how did she ignore all the red flaaags" bruh, her cousin (whom she considered a sister at the time, and trusted 100%) connected her to "bobby" and claimed to be very close to him.... If your family member was constantly advocating for and validating the existence of this person... would you be quicker to assume your family member is a manipulative psychopath? Or that hes real and is just going through some crazy shit. The cousin even went so far as to deliver one of "bobby's t-shirts" claiming to have gotten it from NY - sprayed it with aftershave n shit. NEVER would she have been like "hmmm... suspicious...my cousin is definitely involved in an incredibly elaborate catfishing scheme, involving 60 (fake) people" Very intelligent people are gaslit and manipulated all the time... these manipulators are able to find your vulnerabilities and use them against you. if you are a kind, compassionate person you are an easier target for sure. ppl are crazy
@@Lorenz-lw5bsit doesn't matter if it's simran or not Kirat destroyed her own career. How can a person be so damn stupid for 10 years not 1 video call. How can someone you have never met physically have so much control over your life. It's a shame she was so desperate she threw all common sense out the window
@@dc704 She was fooled and it’s clear. No matter how you cut it, it’s simrans fault. She went out of her way to create a world and it wasn’t just online.
@@Lorenz-lw5bs NO! Because how did she not get to meet any of his friends or family in person?? How come non of them wanted to meet her???? Why was her so called “community” who knew him well not talking about their relationship or what happened to him!! She was desperate and delusional and let it go on. Especially because he was rich too! So ofc she would put her own common sense and SELF RESPECT aside for this!
This is totally different from what has been shown in movie. There was no mention of JJ dying, Sanj the second wife posted about bobby being shot not his cousin in a group. There was not picture of him with wores in hospital was posted, it was sent by the cousins. Plus no mention of even bobby dying. Whats true and what’s not. So confusing.
Does it get better? Because only 2 min in and ready to bail. How are people able to listen to this? *I'm out. Good luck Kira. I can't stand this format of reporting and the reporter's voice and tone is unbearable.
A document..."nothing to do with PORN"... I feel for you, man. 😔 Only bad-joking. I saw the short TH-cam Doc and am following up. It's an incredible yet VERY COMMON story. It's outrageous really. I think our World is very ill. It's very, very sad and I fear for our childrens future. Have done since thé early 1990s.
I truly believe this is a scam she is part of I’m sorry Who has a relationship on line for all those years if your desperate to marry and have children And you never meet, It’s just to ridiculous. The minute she saw him and never had a conversation with the real Bobby because he may have been drunk Lead me to this conclusion. -lease don’t come for me She decided to sell her story to Netflix on the case.
Even after knowing the whole truth I can't believe this girl still talks fondly and starry eyed about this non existent relationship. Sad.
I don’t think you understand that she was targeted. The relationship aspect of it doesn’t matter. She said herself that the romantic aspect only began at the end. She was targeted by psycho simran who elaborated this from the beginning. Use your brain.
My daughter recommended this to me. I'm hooked!
Whose here from Netflix
Me, tomorrow will speak in my stream about it. Shocked
Me! 😂 I came because people were saying it was much deeper then how Netflix presented it
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@@justinemarshall90same! 😭
Starts at 3.35
What doesnt add up is if they all knew each other within Kenyan Sikh community, how much ppl didnt talk about dire situations like getting shot, being in witness protection, brother dying... like all of these never came about in such a long period of time?? Something about story feels like there is more to this story than being told
that's what i also was wondering. a) how simran had time for all this while working? b) how the hell noone talked about it in the community? they allegedly knew bobby's family right?
@@the-girly-talks I don't believe that Simran was this high-powered professional executive and also texted Kirat 50+ times daily. Absurd. Kirat is exagerating the lengths Simran went to, in order to make herself seem less gullible. The real truth is probably closer to a few texts per week, and would make Kirat look even more foolish.
Yes exactly! Probably Kirat was in a phase of desperation after breaking up with a long term boyfriend at 32 and was ready to lap up anything. Also zhe comes across as someone with poor judgement the way she explains her years preceeding this. She is probably exagerating few bits to make it look like she wasnt stupid
yea that's the only thing i don't get. the community was supposedly small. but maybe they really didnt know each other idk.
Exactly. This fool was sat online talking to everyone but never once spoke to any of these characters in person. Kirat sounds unhinged and delulu
Sorry but why was she speaking to Bobby knowing he was a married man. I think she had a crush on him and her cousin knew and used that info to catfish her using her own fantasies.
My supervisor in work recommended this. Her reaction to it made me intrigued to watch it. 😂
I’m so confused by this podcast I feel like I’m being brainwashed lol. Some of this is completely different to what I just watched on Netflix. I swear Sanju was the one on Facebook who announced Bobby “been shot” instead of a friend of bobbys. And since in what part of the Netflix did he die or lose his memory? I recall hearing of a stroke and voice loss but not memory loss. And there was no mention of JJ’s death in the documentary. Am I missing something here?
Exactly my thoughts there was no JJ dying, sanj posted bobby has been shot, and the picture of him with wores was sent later by one of his cousins not posted on fb???and bobby dying??? It was never mentioned
yea they left out huge parts in the netflix series, they left out JJ dying and bobby “dying” . it’s the same story netflix just picked and chose what to include in it
@@LauraCharlottex exactly
Kirat has missed billions of red flags. A lot of questions left not answered. How come within 10 years she couldn’t see the real page on Facebook of Bobby. In my opinion she is not opening the real truth. Both Kirat and her cousin are not ok, maybe it’s something in the family. 10 years talking on Skype without a video, seriously?)) No pictures sent except the one picture from the hospital? No voice messages???She was avoiding the truth herself. She didn’t want to wake up. But the main problem is the family pressure of course. Until now all what she wants just to get married 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ The problem is inside the family. All her life she is trying to prove them something. They brake her from inside. She is traumatized. Her real wish, actually obsession, not Bobby, but to make her society happy. Such problem is always exists in the culture where the women are pressed and devalued.
I totally agree. Something about this handsome cardiologist who wanted to marry her was especially important in light of her culture, plus I think she had some mental vulnerabilities.
she was in her late 30s and desperate to marry. and the story was that bobby was unwell and in witness protection. also 10 years...3 years they just talked on and off as friends. so i guess it's around 6 years of this. it's 9 years not 10 years, not that it makes much of a diff.
@@chernyipionhelp I wish I could like your comment 1000 times. I feel the same way.
Whos here from netflix trailer??!
Me 😂
Me 😅
I actually watched the netflix doc today
I am!
The way I talked to the screen and gasped the whole way through…I had to find out more about the story. 😮
I'm 2:00 minutes in to the audio and I understood immediately why Kirat recommended listening to this podcast first, prior to the Documentary on Netflix.
Herein the story is presented on another level !! 👏👏
This was recommended on Podcast Playlist, after hearing the preview, I knew I had to hear the whole thing!
what is podcast playlist?
I can’t understand how you can be in a relationship with someone where is only you sending videos and voicemails. Did they ever talk on the phone? No facetime nothing? There is something missing! Everyone speaks on the phone, how you are engaged to someone you never heard their voice in 10 years?? She knew and was in love with her fantasy, there is no other way to explain it!
Kirat was extremely naive
@adamturk7583 not really, she felt like all of her community knew that person she was talking to, and that her cousins has met with him in person before
@@vivavidadela exactly. It’s not like he was always in a coma!! And forget him why didn’t he respect her enough to put her in touch with his friends or family in person. How did non of them WANT to meet her especially after he proposed. Kirat asked for this!
@@kati_nixie and yet non of her “community” was talking about him with her??
@@adamturk7583 she was extremely something. Naive is too soft a word.
Max and Nev would have had a feild day with this one!
If Simran is/was this highly mentally disturbed (possibly an undiagnosed mental illness) isn’t the untimely sudden unsolved death of her ex JJ also alarming? Could she be behind that and wanted to torture her next victim (her cousin who she knew used to talk to him)? All alleged here
The real JJ isn't dead, it's the fake profile JJ which is Simran all along.
Hardly same thing as sliding doors is it.. shes missed the train everyday for the last 10years. The red flags are screaming.
It is a common misconception to attribute naivety or lack of awareness to people who get tricked/scammed/lied to. In reality, it's not the case. Besides, the longevity of this particular catfishing case IS the reason Kirat got to trust "Bobby"
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Even the way she’s recalling her conversations with all of these fake characters sounds like she’s delusional. She’s still speaking about all of these events as if they were true! She sounds mental. If she knew so many people “personally” then how come not one conversation took place in person with any of them! Why is nobody asking the hard Qs that are very obvious
She addressed this in a recent interview and intentionally talks about it like they were real and you need to remember that in this podcast, for people who don't know the story, she has to talk about it like the fake characters are real so that it is more shocking to find out who the catfisher is.
@ I thought that but still she’s not a trained actress is she? She’s fully still living in the fantasy! People also mostly already know the story because when it happened the BBC wrote about it. Wasn’t that shocking.
stop defending her.
I don't think Simran did all of these things alone as a teenage school girl. I mean, all of these fake accounts,fake people,a lot of time for texting and calls and stuff!!
There might be few other teenagers with her, who started doing all of these things for fun and then it all went too far!
Well no it was just her
I feel that Kirat might have felt a bit insecure approaching Bobby at the club. She must've been crushing on him by then. Maybe she felt that she wasn't attractive enough for him.
Yeah..she got that right..she was not attractive at all..she should have thought it was too.good to be true..why would someone who used to date a girl.like.sanj would go.for her
"how did she ignore all the red flaaags" bruh, her cousin (whom she considered a sister at the time, and trusted 100%) connected her to "bobby" and claimed to be very close to him.... If your family member was constantly advocating for and validating the existence of this person... would you be quicker to assume your family member is a manipulative psychopath? Or that hes real and is just going through some crazy shit.
The cousin even went so far as to deliver one of "bobby's t-shirts" claiming to have gotten it from NY - sprayed it with aftershave n shit.
NEVER would she have been like "hmmm... suspicious...my cousin is definitely involved in an incredibly elaborate catfishing scheme, involving 60 (fake) people"
Very intelligent people are gaslit and manipulated all the time... these manipulators are able to find your vulnerabilities and use them against you. if you are a kind, compassionate person you are an easier target for sure. ppl are crazy
Bobby did not destroy her career, she destroyed her own career.
we know its you simran 😂
@Lore😂😂😂😂nz-lw5bs
@@Lorenz-lw5bsit doesn't matter if it's simran or not Kirat destroyed her own career. How can a person be so damn stupid for 10 years not 1 video call. How can someone you have never met physically have so much control over your life. It's a shame she was so desperate she threw all common sense out the window
@@dc704 She was fooled and it’s clear. No matter how you cut it, it’s simrans fault. She went out of her way to create a world and it wasn’t just online.
@@Lorenz-lw5bs NO! Because how did she not get to meet any of his friends or family in person?? How come non of them wanted to meet her????
Why was her so called “community” who knew him well not talking about their relationship or what happened to him!! She was desperate and delusional and let it go on. Especially because he was rich too! So ofc she would put her own common sense and SELF RESPECT aside for this!
It’s in a different order here in netflix he asked her for baby names after he broke up with his wife and was with kirat.
Yeah timeline is really different here
They need to make a show 😮
Your wish came true
@@trickstart3150 omgggggggg
There's a doc coming out in November!!
Its nearly here not long
It's on Netflix now
I am waiting to find out what Bobby wanted from Kira. Criminals have goals
So effed up
what was taken from her besides time and emotions?
This is totally different from what has been shown in movie. There was no mention of JJ dying, Sanj the second wife posted about bobby being shot not his cousin in a group. There was not picture of him with wores in hospital was posted, it was sent by the cousins. Plus no mention of even bobby dying. Whats true and what’s not. So confusing.
This is the OG, investigated by the media. The Netflix version is dramatised to an extent.
I'm here from Netflix. The fact that Bobby has been unalived before...I would have blocked him.
Does it get better? Because only 2 min in and ready to bail. How are people able to listen to this?
*I'm out. Good luck Kira. I can't stand this format of reporting and the reporter's voice and tone is unbearable.
Same haha
It's pretty good actually, sadly it starts late there is a lot of fluff in the beginning.
I listened to the episodes and it is a hard follow and so many self imposed ads and jumping all over.
Did she speak with Simran after knowing JJ died?
im under 40 and i dont undestand how she ended up here.....
This story rings a bell I think I read it in paper still crazy
Netflix doc out
Just watched the documentary on netflix, its wild
A document..."nothing to do with PORN"... I feel for you, man. 😔
Only bad-joking. I saw the short TH-cam Doc and am following up. It's an incredible yet VERY COMMON story. It's outrageous really.
I think our World is very ill.
It's very, very sad and I fear for our childrens future. Have done since thé early 1990s.
I’m dead the way he said that was funny 😂
I truly believe this is a scam she is part of
I’m sorry
Who has a relationship on line for all those years if your desperate to marry and have children
And you never meet,
It’s just to ridiculous.
The minute she saw him and never had a conversation with the real Bobby because he may have been drunk
Lead me to this conclusion.
-lease don’t come for me
She decided to sell her story to Netflix on the case.
@3:33 ▶
This story does not make sense.
What's the key summary y'all
simran is under your bed
😂😂@@Raccoongirl90
@@Raccoongirl90literally Simran gives me chills
Did you get your answers
I would like to hear jjs story
me here from netflix
Me