Seán O'Nilbud It’s because the screen on the Audi has nearly no bezels, and it has no buttons on the screens itself. The i30 has fat bezels for the buttons, which means he said it will age badly, not ugly.
My Leon FR 2.0tdi 150 Manual is in that colour (well the prefacelift blue). Absolutely love this car; best handling and looking car on the market for the price. Never get tired of driving it.
Can you plan a drag race (standing + rolling start) with the Hyundai i30 N Performance vs Peugeot 308 GTI vs Golf GTI Performance vs Ford Focus ST ? That would be brilliant
SkizomanX Maybe a non-Performance i30 is more closely matched to these cars (247hp vs the performance making 272hp). Or maybe a clubsport Gti would compete better with these cars as they stand. I just feel like a Gti PP making 245hp is a little underpowered, but then again, VW does love to underrate their numbers.
No, because don't forget that the i30 N is the heaviest, and on paper those 4 are quite close. The GTI clubsport is not sold anymore (but yes that would be intersting too). Like you said, VW underrate their numbers. Anyway, I hope that Carwow will do that ^^ !
drag races are dumb, lap times tell much more about a car in the german press the 308 gti just beat the Golf GTI Performance (again) and the i30N 308 gti = most underrated car
A lot of people are interested about pure performance, and since Carwow doesn't do laptimes... so there is nothing stupid about it since straightline speed is also a factor to get better laptimes. Those cars are not only made for racetracks...in fact those are more of dailydrivers than track cars.
test data from autobild sportscars (german press) 1/18: Hyunndai: quartermile: 14,22 s, 0-200 kph: 22,4 s, 100-0 kph 33,8 m laptime with base street tires 1:42:68 Peugeot: quartermile: 14,30 s, 0-200 kph: 22,0 s, 100-0 kph 33,1 m laptime with base street tires 1:41:14 VW: quartermile: 14,60 s, 0-200 kph: 22,8 s, 100-0 kph 34,8 m laptime with base street tires 1:43:66
I changed from Leon to Civic in 2018. I loved my Leon but the Civic is something else. It has a totally different feel and it is a cracking drive. I got it in black so all the weird grills disappear. The touchscreen is no problem, as responsive as you need it to be and the sat nav is far better than the leon (unless it changed after 2015). All in all I'm well chuffed, I might go for a type R next time!
I got a civic sport 1.5 turbo and I love it can’t imagine owning the other two. So comfy to drive yet it has so much grip. The CVT gearbox makes it so smooth without sacrificing speed either.
I didn't like the Civic before, but these 2018/2019 models have won me over for both exterior and interior. It's gorgeous! I'd have it in the 1.5L turbo though.
I really like the new Civic design, however I can see why some don't and think it's 'over-designed' so to speak. But you know you're getting a very reliable and performing car from Honda.
CyclingDaz I like the new one, it looks the best since the 90s, but still, its still looks like a 15-year-old with a Halford's club card designed it. Says more about me and my age I think. at my age, I just couldn't own it. Though out of theses, id gets an Octavia I think it's a little nicer in vrs trim over the Leon fr trim. Admittedly the vrs is a few grand more, but so would be the trim of all the cars featured. I'd get the 184 diesel in the Fr trim in estate form. which is cheaper by about 1k over the diesel vrs. Same car, different frock. So it would come down to looks. Also, the seat drives a little better than the Octavia, it's not only sportier it's less harsh. seat has done a good job in the Leon fr. Though I've only driven the 184 Leon fr st back to back with the 180 Octavia vrs estate. I went in to test drive the petrol vrs, 230 iirc, but also took out the diesel. And as seat was nextdoor I took out the sister car the leon st fr diesel. So my decision is two fold, petrol over diesel.1.is the extra grunt ,and less noise worth the mpg hit , about an average 27mpg vs 38mph in the deisel . If the answer is no, the the 2nd question then is do I then save the 1k plus and get the Leon. Its just as good , if better in some ways , except looks imo. I've written far too much . if you got here, hello, all the best and happy new year .
I can fully agree with both of you and I'd consider myself young at 25. I'd rather get a Mazda 3, especiallythe upcoming one if it's true to the concept.
@@KaneTheMessiah I have talked to a Mazda salesman and he told me that the new 3 will indeed look very similar to the Kai Concept. Interior will not have that widescreen infotainment like in the pictures but it wil be 8.8 inches. If so, i'll probably order it next year.
Surprisingly the FR does 0-100km/h in 8s, making it as quick as my 2013 Toyota Auris 1.8 Hybrid (it too does it in 8s flat). That is totally unexpected. I spec'd the Leon FR similarly to my Toyota Auris and the FR will cost me 36k Euro....So it's as fast as a damn Hybrid EV in a straight line, not suited for long trips, only performs well in corners...I'm not so sure about it. Also the FR has totally zero road presence. I got my Auris 1.8 in Pearlwhite (offset white, looks like frosted ice during winter, sparkles during summer), with 19" rims, blacked out roof, blacked out windows, chrome package, the Auris looks totally hardcore. I tried to get a hardcore looking FR, but it just can't happen, it will always look like a cheap car that can't even outrun an Hybrid EV car...for the price, a very bad choice.
Clorex Bleach i have a brand new seat leon fr 17 plate and love it brilliant car everything i need for my little family. Power when needed and i think its a really nice ride and i love how it looks. Top car for me obviously everyone has different opinions and views but i love seats had an ibiza before and loved that too. Cupra next too haha
Own a 2014 leon and overall it's good to live with. The ride is firm around town and a bit bouncy on some badly surfaced B roads but superb on motorways and dual carriageway where you hardly feel bumps at all. The 1.4 turbo is nice. Good for overtaking yet fuel economy varies between 40 and 50. The interior is well made but needs more flair. Lacks wow factor. Overall I like it. But the civic does look interesting and a softer ride would be tempting.
I'm sorry but why is the Honda considered a " compact hatchback"?? That car is longer than a 2014 Mercedes C class! You can absolutely not compare it to a Leon.
The Leon just sucks as a daily driver car. With the Leon, expect a back surgery the next year...you're going to need it...The Civic, even though it is larger, the price is not that much higher.
All cars are growing. Look at the Clio! Though an extreme example, the trend is there, look at all cars, Fiesta, even the current ka is bigger than the first fiesta. It's, not just ford either. Look at the first civic, which looks amazing looking back. You could probably park the original civic im the new one's boot. I once owned a rover 420sli, at the time a quite big car, my current car a GTC, (a 2 door Astra) i noticed in the supermarket is as long and wider than my old rover. Decent car that was, it had the Honda engine
Finally! A correct outcome from a comparison review. VAG won't be happy but it's about time people looked beyond their so called reputation. Honda looks class all rounder (apart from rear!)
I'd go for the Seat, whilst it follows the german recipe of literally EVERYTHING that's nice being an added option, it is the nicest and the most sleek car
Sleek = refined and timeless and class, tacky and overdone ages bad and looks cheap, ecxample, 8th gen Civic hatch and Hyundai Veloster and no doubt this civic too.
albertrll that "Hot hatch soul" is a very bold statement. It's the first try from Hyundai in this car class. And a serious one indeed, it does look good overall. But it has to demonstrate a lot of things still. The Cupra is on it's third generation now. It was a record car in the nurburgring. And released all of the tech that the Hyundai has now. DCC chassis, electronic lsd, Drive modes.... it has 300hp and near 100kg less than the Hyundai. Given that the Hyundai is just being released, I still prefer the Cupra. Some time later on, we'll see how good the Hyundai really is. I hope it will not dissapoint, more competition is always good in this class.
albertrll are you from Spain? Me too haha. The Cupra is not that expensive in reality. The brand's configurator gives an higher price than the one you can get at the dealers. Talking about the performance pack, all the Hyundai features are standard in the Leon without that pack. The Leon's performance pack adds Big brembo brakes and Michelin cup tyres. That's another plus. I did a short test drive in a Cupra 280 dsg without pp, and the car was VERY good. But to be honest, I prefer manual gearbox over faster times. I hope I can do a test drive in the i30N, so I can actually have a real opinion about It. My current car is a Focus st mk2 with mods.
albertrll muy cierto. Y que siga habiendo máquinas así, que ahora con lo eléctrico parece que tienen los días contados. Un saludo y felices fiestas. ;)
Completely agree with the seat leon FR sporty suspension. As a 1 year owner of a 66 plate, one thing i hate about my car is the comfortability. There is no "comfort mode" so you are stuck with a harsh suspension throughout your experience with the car. You will end up hating the car if like me you do alot of local/ city centre driving. Next car is gonna be either a golf or a class.
I had similar cars to choose. Took the middle ground which is seat. (2019 FR) I did get the ski hatch, the wierdness of the passenger seat is still there (if you want people behind to have room, you wont be able to open the glovebox, they did add a box to store things below the seat tho). The sport suspension you can feel a lot. Sometimes it is annoying. The consuption is very very good. 6 speed manual with 150hp petrol gives me around 5.5 l/100km. It cost me around 23.000 euros due to some added equipment. However, it is a perfect car for young people that enjoy driving and things like that
To be honest I'd get the Civic. My parents have always had Hondas and they're hard to kill. My first car was a 2010 CR-V and it still runs great. I actually like the look of the Seat though, agressive, and I assume the Hyundai is a pretty good car. I also like the comparisons between cars like these, not over the top but still quality. All in all, you guys have one of the best car channels on TH-cam! Keep it up guys
Seat and hyundai are too common. You see these cars everywhere, boring. Civic is more unique, different and very practical. Ugly plastic trims on rear but i can live with that. You wont see them when you drive LOL
Seat sells like 500 cars in my country per year, same for Skoda.. while in europe Seat and Skodas are fucking everywhere so here is a plus. Well, except when someone says "nice chinese car" or "it looks pretty luxury for a chinese car" - Skoda Superb: i am a joke to you?
Thankyou. I know these reviews are probably boring to present and produce, but they are the most useful. Buyers of an Audi R8 or a Mercedes E class or whatever aren't going to look at a comparison or review to decide - those people have already made up their minds based on what plastic badge is on the bonnet.
Had the Leon FR great car. Now its a Leon Experience Lux. Bigger boot bigger engine. Extra bells an whistles. The only thing I miss is the driving modes found on the FR.
I don’t agree RE: the i30’s styling. Here in Aus you can get a model called the SR with a 200hp 1.6-litre turbo petrol and it has 18-inch alloys, a rear diffuser and the dial pipes and it looks much nicer and more unique than the Euro spec model used here.
But it's by far the most expensive, especially in the highest trim or with the 1.5 liter engine (or both) - it can cost as much as VW Passat and that's just too much.
@@sic22l yes but when the passat is in the bone yard the civic is still fresh. The civic is technically the cheapest of all cars when reliability is factored in
@Getthe cansin It's not. With long warranties and lease plans where people don't keep the cars reliability means less and less. More - Civic had some issues (electronic stuff) even though it's the newest here. Third - japanese cars are traditionally stupidly expensive to maintain and more importantly - repar, at least here in Europe. Old Passat is still much more mature, comfortable and quality car than any Honda.
@@sic22l Ok agreed with some of that but if you're relatively poor like me I still think the honda ,if you keep it beyond warranty, it it still be cheaper. Anyway I've never purchased a car 'in warranty' as they are always at least 5 yrs old at the time. Be nice alright to have a new car in warranty then change after it's up. Thanks for the reply.
The Civic sedan is absolutely gorgeous, I’m not a fan of hatchbacks but I’d go with the Civic because of the interior, its newish and slick, its just the back side of the car that is well, not really that attractive.
It is C segment hatchback not a Mercedes S class, Honda interior plastics are the same as in VW golf or in some places even better at least here in Sweden. Plus Civic is really fun to drive :)
@Haris Mak Better plastics? There are many different shapes of the same hard plastic. There're almost no soft ones unlike in the Golf which has the highest quality cabin in the segment (even the door bins are padded).
I think the Leon FR in its estate form looks the best. If you get the 184bhp diesel, you're getting a cheaper diesel vrs. Edit Back ten months later, next month I'll be taking delivery of the ST FR 2l tsi 190 👍. I still don't like the looks of the model in the video trh 3 door SC and 5 door ST are both better looking to me. I wanted an Octavia vrs estate, but I just couldn't get use to the new front lights the Octavia has, so went with the ST FR 190.
Ali Salahat No you are not, I find it it extremely attractive, most people don’t find it ugly, they just say it is because their favorite auto journalists says it is.
i know this is an old video now, but looking at getting a mk10 soon so been rewatching. 1 think i never understand is the headroom comment for the civic. when you back your head on the roof, your leaning back over the headrest .. try actually using the headrest. if you extent the headrest into the correct position, like you would on a front seat, then you'd be resting against it whilst in the more upright position where your heads isn't hitting the roof
The new Honda graphics for the 2018 models here in Canada (and I'm assuming the US) are actually the best I would say. It honestly feels like your using a fast android tablet as apposed to a high latency infotainment screen, though I'll agree the older systems are meh.
Hi Mat, I am considering the same Leon with the automatic, but extremely nervous about the reliability of the DSG7, would you you recommend this gearbox in terms of reliability?
And the FAMILY hatch winner is the new Skoda Octavia Hatch in SE Technology spec, with the 1.0 TSI motor, a 6 speed manual and maybe a couple of small extras, for just about 20k gbp.
This fellow came to this test with preconceived notions. Now in 2020 [in lockdown], these cars' final positions would be reversed. It annoys me that car hacks continue to do this. What happened to warranty, reliability and other factors that were conveniently overlooked or largely ignored in the final score? However, I come from Australia where cars score differently, usually more powerful, and automatics are inverse to manuals cf the UK, and distances are huge, with a hot climate. So I see why the i30s rear air vents weren't big in this comparison. Other things aside, in Aussie, Seat would be a 'chair' 'cos it ain't sold here. As for the Civic. An embarrassment of wheels.
7:01 not a fan of that load cover design. It’s really thin and has a bit of a gap round it so you can easily hear everything moving/rattling in the boot
lisajason111 yeh was thinking that! Its been cold as shit for a while now so I’m wondering when this video was uploaded..probably a old tape that got lost so someone decided to upload it
I just want to say, after an appealing experience with my previous hyundai i30 I will never buy another, the engine reliability was the worst I have ever had
If you take in account the equipment, the extra size and the overal performance and handling, the Civic is worth every penny of the premium. Styling is a matter of taste, but at least it stands out!
While the Hyundai might not drive as well as the other two, it has much better tech, it's styling is far more premium than the seat or Honda, it's comfortable, and it has a great warranty. I don't see how the Honda won. It's so fugly that it just ruins the good qualities about it.
It's a shame that the infotainment system on the Honda is not up to par with the rest. If you use it daily I suppose it can become a nuisance. I presume they update the software every now and then? Perhaps it's better now?
Can you please adjust the volume on voice over/non-voice over so that they match better? I keep jumping from around 20% volume all the way up to 80-ish%..
lot of people complaining about the civic's 1.0L 3 cylinder turbo engine, but it does produce 130hp. Now compare that to something like BMW's 114i with a 1.6L twin turbo engine producing 100hp which is no where near as efficient, and it doesn't seem so bad as an entry level engine.
Other way around, and the i30 dash is straight out of a mazda 3 which is a copy of a BMW's, so a copy of a copy. Along with an infinity grille and golf mk6 rear and peugeot side styling, its a mash up of european cars, I don't blame them since their last i30 looked nasty, still looks good either way but being a copy of euro cars its no surprise there.
Do the reviewers ever discuss how much each car will depreciate over a few years ? It's worth thinking about surely ? If he was to answer the question of "what would you buy after 3 or 5 years ?
Two years before i was out for a car and despite the logic says "take hyundai" i bought opel mokka cause of 140ps and the classy interior. Two years later and after 10-15 times visiting dealers cause of mechanical problems, sold bought the new Hyundai i30 and the car is f** amazing!
We are thinking of buying the hyundai i30 2015 model with 1.4 motor 99 horsepower (we dont care much about hp) would you say this is a good buy? We also want a car thats thrustworthy and doesnt take much to maintain.
Ugly(both on the outside and the inside). A very not reliable engine. Doesn't feel as good as a FR(front engine - rear wheel drive) car. Does not sounds really great. It consumes more gas. The only thing that this car wins is the trophy for the most shitty car of the 20 century lol
it is 21 st century..I must say that this car makes me very proud owner as I have heard so many people praising the styling of MY Civic. They simply love it. Never will this happen with either I30 or Leon..Never..just two very,very ordinary and boring cars .
love your channel reasons
1) honest and sensible comments
2) all things covered in 9-11 minutes i mean everything
3) new videos almost everyday
Yeah Matt can cover 3 cars fully in 10 minutes, while other channels take 20+ minutes to cover same stuff on one car.
can anyone tell me is a honda civic a good car to get or do you have alot of problems with them thank you
So when the i30 has a big ugly screen nailed to the dash that's ugly but when Audi do the same it's a masterpiece of innovative design.
Seán O'Nilbud It’s because the screen on the Audi has nearly no bezels, and it has no buttons on the screens itself. The i30 has fat bezels for the buttons, which means he said it will age badly, not ugly.
audi's are retractable though. That's why it's clever.
Audi shite over priced
He has criticised Audi for it too
@@pierrot148 but there is no point of retracting something that you need whenever you're in the car, it's just a gimmick
Worst thing you can do is watch this without being able to afford them :"(
Fred Pinto 😆 good point
You can now😂
My Leon FR 2.0tdi 150 Manual is in that colour (well the prefacelift blue). Absolutely love this car; best handling and looking car on the market for the price. Never get tired of driving it.
The i30 is a brilliant car. I've had it as a hire car and really liked it. This coming from someone who owned a Golf and an A3.
If it's a diesel version i30 it is a brilliant car. This coming from someone who owned a Kia ceed, Civic and an Oktavia
The Civic seems much larger than the other two.
Well the Civic is 4518 mm long while Leon and i30 is 4282 mm and 4340 mm
넘잼 that’s what she said 😏
^ haha
Because it is. It was meant to replace EU Accord as well. Unfortunately for Honda, size isn't everything.
Also, it's butt ugly.
Can you plan a drag race (standing + rolling start) with the Hyundai i30 N Performance vs Peugeot 308 GTI vs Golf GTI Performance vs Ford Focus ST ? That would be brilliant
SkizomanX
Maybe a non-Performance i30 is more closely matched to these cars (247hp vs the performance making 272hp).
Or maybe a clubsport Gti would compete better with these cars as they stand.
I just feel like a Gti PP making 245hp is a little underpowered, but then again, VW does love to underrate their numbers.
No, because don't forget that the i30 N is the heaviest, and on paper those 4 are quite close.
The GTI clubsport is not sold anymore (but yes that would be intersting too).
Like you said, VW underrate their numbers.
Anyway, I hope that Carwow will do that ^^ !
drag races are dumb, lap times tell much more about a car
in the german press the 308 gti just beat the Golf GTI Performance (again) and the i30N
308 gti = most underrated car
A lot of people are interested about pure performance, and since Carwow doesn't do laptimes... so there is nothing stupid about it since straightline speed is also a factor to get better laptimes.
Those cars are not only made for racetracks...in fact those are more of dailydrivers than track cars.
test data from autobild sportscars (german press) 1/18:
Hyunndai: quartermile: 14,22 s, 0-200 kph: 22,4 s, 100-0 kph 33,8 m laptime with base street tires 1:42:68
Peugeot: quartermile: 14,30 s, 0-200 kph: 22,0 s, 100-0 kph 33,1 m laptime with base street tires 1:41:14
VW: quartermile: 14,60 s, 0-200 kph: 22,8 s, 100-0 kph 34,8 m laptime with base street tires 1:43:66
I would pick the Seat
I have Leon FR fom 2008,2 liter diesel and 170hp....very good engine.Maximum 8liter on 100km..
I would prefer the seat too, especially after a long day on my legs.
hahaha its a joke!!??
sharkskingaming ya same
Yea mee 2
Got 3 civics, decent cars. Bought new Leon FR last year in Feb. Love it! Don't mind the firm suspension and ascetic interior.
All those fake vents on the civic look terrible
yes those look ugly
It tries too hard, and looks like a bitch to keep clean with all those crevices
yes, we need huge fake airvents at the back of a front engined 1.0L Civic /smh
[TECHNOLOGIC] I think they *look* cool but the fact that they're fake is what makes it extremely cringy
if the paint is black those fake vents are not as visible
also there is a better looking Civic sedan with smaller vents
I changed from Leon to Civic in 2018. I loved my Leon but the Civic is something else. It has a totally different feel and it is a cracking drive. I got it in black so all the weird grills disappear. The touchscreen is no problem, as responsive as you need it to be and the sat nav is far better than the leon (unless it changed after 2015). All in all I'm well chuffed, I might go for a type R next time!
Of course you did
I got a civic sport 1.5 turbo and I love it can’t imagine owning the other two. So comfy to drive yet it has so much grip. The CVT gearbox makes it so smooth without sacrificing speed either.
Yea maaan
Hondas gearboxes are amazing.
@Stevie between 36 and 39mpg on average. I’ve seen it as high as 41 on long trips.
As a loyal subscriber, I demand the FLOATING TEXT to be in all of the channel's videos Mat, it makes memorizing and comparing easier ❤️
6:30 "The rear doors don't open very wide"
That's a surprising oversight, given that the old Civic's rear doors opened to a near 90 degree angle.
I’m 17 I’ve just purchased my 2018 seat leon fr technology in black
I didn't like the Civic before, but these 2018/2019 models have won me over for both exterior and interior. It's gorgeous! I'd have it in the 1.5L turbo though.
I really like the new Civic design, however I can see why some don't and think it's 'over-designed' so to speak. But you know you're getting a very reliable and performing car from Honda.
CyclingDaz I like the new one, it looks the best since the 90s, but still, its still looks like a 15-year-old with a Halford's club card designed it.
Says more about me and my age I think. at my age, I just couldn't own it. Though out of theses, id gets an Octavia I think it's a little nicer in vrs trim over the Leon fr trim. Admittedly the vrs is a few grand more, but so would be the trim of all the cars featured. I'd get the 184 diesel in the Fr trim in estate form. which is cheaper by about 1k over the diesel vrs.
Same car, different frock. So it would come down to looks. Also, the seat drives a little better than the Octavia, it's not only sportier it's less harsh. seat has done a good job in the Leon fr. Though I've only driven the 184 Leon fr st back to back with the 180 Octavia vrs estate.
I went in to test drive the petrol vrs, 230 iirc, but also took out the diesel. And as seat was nextdoor I took out the sister car the leon st fr diesel.
So my decision is two fold, petrol over diesel.1.is the extra grunt ,and less noise worth the mpg hit , about an average 27mpg vs 38mph in the deisel .
If the answer is no, the the 2nd question then is do I then save the 1k plus and get the Leon. Its just as good , if better in some ways , except looks imo.
I've written far too much . if you got here, hello, all the best and happy new year .
I can fully agree with both of you and I'd consider myself young at 25. I'd rather get a Mazda 3, especiallythe upcoming one if it's true to the concept.
CyclingDaz Indeed, if you can live with the design it is a good car.
@@KaneTheMessiah I have talked to a Mazda salesman and he told me that the new 3 will indeed look very similar to the Kai Concept. Interior will not have that widescreen infotainment like in the pictures but it wil be 8.8 inches. If so, i'll probably order it next year.
I wish they sold Seat here in the states. I prefer their styling over reg VWs
Get one from Mexico
how should he get it over the wall...hahaha sorry had to take that
The player of us The same way their people should come ---- LEGALLY!
it was a joke but ok...
The player of us I know, and it was funny. For years people "imported" old style Beetles gray market from Mexico, Brazil, and Nigeria to the U.S.
Seat leon FR for me nicer on the outside, better quicker tech on inside and love the sporty ride.
Surprisingly the FR does 0-100km/h in 8s, making it as quick as my 2013 Toyota Auris 1.8 Hybrid (it too does it in 8s flat). That is totally unexpected. I spec'd the Leon FR similarly to my Toyota Auris and the FR will cost me 36k Euro....So it's as fast as a damn Hybrid EV in a straight line, not suited for long trips, only performs well in corners...I'm not so sure about it. Also the FR has totally zero road presence. I got my Auris 1.8 in Pearlwhite (offset white, looks like frosted ice during winter, sparkles during summer), with 19" rims, blacked out roof, blacked out windows, chrome package, the Auris looks totally hardcore. I tried to get a hardcore looking FR, but it just can't happen, it will always look like a cheap car that can't even outrun an Hybrid EV car...for the price, a very bad choice.
Clorex Bleach i have a brand new seat leon fr 17 plate and love it brilliant car everything i need for my little family. Power when needed and i think its a really nice ride and i love how it looks. Top car for me obviously everyone has different opinions and views but i love seats had an ibiza before and loved that too. Cupra next too haha
Own a 2014 leon and overall it's good to live with. The ride is firm around town and a bit bouncy on some badly surfaced B roads but superb on motorways and dual carriageway where you hardly feel bumps at all. The 1.4 turbo is nice. Good for overtaking yet fuel economy varies between 40 and 50. The interior is well made but needs more flair. Lacks wow factor. Overall I like it. But the civic does look interesting and a softer ride would be tempting.
Can do three hour journeys in my leon and get out with no aches. Can't say that about any of my previous cars.
@Clorex Bleach
Stock Auris hybrid doesn't go below 10 seconds.
I'm sorry but why is the Honda considered a " compact hatchback"??
That car is longer than a 2014 Mercedes C class! You can absolutely not compare it to a Leon.
The Leon just sucks as a daily driver car. With the Leon, expect a back surgery the next year...you're going to need it...The Civic, even though it is larger, the price is not that much higher.
Clorex Bleach Really? I'll let you know when it's time for my surgery. I think you'll be waiting a life time though
But the 2014 C-Class (W204) is 4582mm long whereas the 10th generation Civic Hatchback is 4519mm long...
More than a C class?? Damn is it really that long??
All cars are growing. Look at the Clio! Though an extreme example, the trend is there, look at all cars, Fiesta, even the current ka is bigger than the first fiesta. It's, not just ford either. Look at the first civic, which looks amazing looking back. You could probably park the original civic im the new one's boot.
I once owned a rover 420sli, at the time a quite big car, my current car a GTC, (a 2 door Astra) i noticed in the supermarket is as long and wider than my old rover. Decent car that was, it had the Honda engine
Of course you will feel the bumps more in the Leon fr. It's the fr!! It's focused more on the sport side of things
Not if you buy the 1.8 or above no torsion beam
Finally! A correct outcome from a comparison review. VAG won't be happy but it's about time people looked beyond their so called reputation. Honda looks class all rounder (apart from rear!)
I'd go for the Seat, whilst it follows the german recipe of literally EVERYTHING that's nice being an added option, it is the nicest and the most sleek car
I dont think it will age well. It will look outdated in a few years. Id get a Polo over the Leon
True, i think the same model has been out for 5+ years (with facelift) so it'd be something worth considering.
Sleek = boring
Sleek = refined and timeless and class, tacky and overdone ages bad and looks cheap, ecxample, 8th gen Civic hatch and Hyundai Veloster and no doubt this civic too.
I was hoping for a review of the civic type r vs i30 n vs leon cupra
I would go for the Cupra. Same value for money than the Hyundai if not more. More power, and is lighter.
albertrll that "Hot hatch soul" is a very bold statement. It's the first try from Hyundai in this car class. And a serious one indeed, it does look good overall. But it has to demonstrate a lot of things still. The Cupra is on it's third generation now. It was a record car in the nurburgring. And released all of the tech that the Hyundai has now. DCC chassis, electronic lsd, Drive modes.... it has 300hp and near 100kg less than the Hyundai. Given that the Hyundai is just being released, I still prefer the Cupra. Some time later on, we'll see how good the Hyundai really is. I hope it will not dissapoint, more competition is always good in this class.
albertrll are you from Spain? Me too haha. The Cupra is not that expensive in reality. The brand's configurator gives an higher price than the one you can get at the dealers. Talking about the performance pack, all the Hyundai features are standard in the Leon without that pack. The Leon's performance pack adds Big brembo brakes and Michelin cup tyres. That's another plus. I did a short test drive in a Cupra 280 dsg without pp, and the car was VERY good. But to be honest, I prefer manual gearbox over faster times. I hope I can do a test drive in the i30N, so I can actually have a real opinion about It. My current car is a Focus st mk2 with mods.
albertrll great cars indeed both of them. I'm from Euskadi. Vamos, que soy de Euskadi. Jaja.
albertrll muy cierto. Y que siga habiendo máquinas así, que ahora con lo eléctrico parece que tienen los días contados. Un saludo y felices fiestas. ;)
What about the Mazda 3? What about the Mazda 2... never seem to mention these cars. They're great!
Completely agree with the seat leon FR sporty suspension. As a 1 year owner of a 66 plate, one thing i hate about my car is the comfortability. There is no "comfort mode" so you are stuck with a harsh suspension throughout your experience with the car. You will end up hating the car if like me you do alot of local/ city centre driving. Next car is gonna be either a golf or a class.
Aqi Khaliq Make sure the tyre pressure is set to 30 and no higher. Makes a massive difference with the leons ride.
At 32psi the ride on leon Fr is awful. At 30psi it is at least twice as comfortable.
Should bought the DCC suspension. It makes a difference.
pokest225 is that the adaptable suspension that gives you the option of selecting comfort mode?
Aqi Khaliq yes. I've been in a fr with the standard suspension, and in a Cupra with DCC suspension. The Cupra was more confortable than the fr.
I had similar cars to choose. Took the middle ground which is seat. (2019 FR) I did get the ski hatch, the wierdness of the passenger seat is still there (if you want people behind to have room, you wont be able to open the glovebox, they did add a box to store things below the seat tho). The sport suspension you can feel a lot. Sometimes it is annoying. The consuption is very very good. 6 speed manual with 150hp petrol gives me around 5.5 l/100km. It cost me around 23.000 euros due to some added equipment. However, it is a perfect car for young people that enjoy driving and things like that
To be honest I'd get the Civic. My parents have always had Hondas and they're hard to kill. My first car was a 2010 CR-V and it still runs great. I actually like the look of the Seat though, agressive, and I assume the Hyundai is a pretty good car. I also like the comparisons between cars like these, not over the top but still quality. All in all, you guys have one of the best car channels on TH-cam! Keep it up guys
Honda all the way 💗💗💗💗
no doubt
Seat and hyundai are too common. You see these cars everywhere, boring.
Civic is more unique, different and very practical. Ugly plastic trims on rear but i can live with that. You wont see them when you drive LOL
Seat sells like 500 cars in my country per year, same for Skoda.. while in europe Seat and Skodas are fucking everywhere so here is a plus.
Well, except when someone says "nice chinese car" or "it looks pretty luxury for a chinese car" - Skoda Superb: i am a joke to you?
Thankyou. I know these reviews are probably boring to present and produce, but they are the most useful. Buyers of an Audi R8 or a Mercedes E class or whatever aren't going to look at a comparison or review to decide - those people have already made up their minds based on what plastic badge is on the bonnet.
Had the Leon FR great car. Now its a Leon Experience Lux. Bigger boot bigger engine. Extra bells an whistles. The only thing I miss is the driving modes found on the FR.
I don’t agree RE: the i30’s styling. Here in Aus you can get a model called the SR with a 200hp 1.6-litre turbo petrol and it has 18-inch alloys, a rear diffuser and the dial pipes and it looks much nicer and more unique than the Euro spec model used here.
i30 for me : looks good, equipment, warranty.
I have a 2018 i30 SR and I love it!!!
Why is Honda so expensive?? I’d normally go Japanese, but I would go for the Hyundai on this one
Yeah, I think I gonna buy that. Looks way better than the other ones too.
We just got this 10th gen Civic and the car is AMAZING, couldn't be happier with the purchase. We switched from Renault Megane
i have the exact same car as the leon on the video. i love it. only gripe is cup holders
The Honda will also have the highest resale value out of the 3!
But it's by far the most expensive, especially in the highest trim or with the 1.5 liter engine (or both) - it can cost as much as VW Passat and that's just too much.
@@sic22l yes but when the passat is in the bone yard the civic is still fresh. The civic is technically the cheapest of all cars when reliability is factored in
@Getthe cansin
It's not. With long warranties and lease plans where people don't keep the cars reliability means less and less. More - Civic had some issues (electronic stuff) even though it's the newest here. Third - japanese cars are traditionally stupidly expensive to maintain and more importantly - repar, at least here in Europe.
Old Passat is still much more mature, comfortable and quality car than any Honda.
@@sic22l Ok agreed with some of that but if you're relatively poor like me I still think the honda ,if you keep it beyond warranty, it it still be cheaper. Anyway I've never purchased a car 'in warranty' as they are always at least 5 yrs old at the time. Be nice alright to have a new car in warranty then change after it's up. Thanks for the reply.
@Getthe cansin
Actually not because as I said, spare parts and repairs are much more expensive.
would love to see the same of these 3 but in their i30 N, Type-R, Cupra 300/Cupra R flavors
Amazing Review Love You Guys!
Civic, by far the best car in compact segment!
The Civic is huge! It's the size of a Honda Accord from 2010!
My thoughts exactly and the only thing I don't like about it. I saw one on the way to work this week.
That was the plan - It was meant to replace the Accord as well. Unfortunately it replaces Accord when it comes to price as well.
my next car it will be civic 1.5 , now I own accord 2.0
Well, it would cost as much as the new Accord would. While still having mediocre sound insulation and tonnes of cheap hard plastic inside.
The accord looks way nice why replace it
The Civic sedan is absolutely gorgeous, I’m not a fan of hatchbacks but I’d go with the Civic because of the interior, its newish and slick, its just the back side of the car that is well, not really that attractive.
Newish, slick but also poorly insulated and made out of cheap nasty plastics in one of the most epxensive compacts on the market.
It is C segment hatchback not a Mercedes S class, Honda interior plastics are the same as in VW golf or in some places even better at least here in Sweden. Plus Civic is really fun to drive :)
@Haris Mak
Better plastics? There are many different shapes of the same hard plastic. There're almost no soft ones unlike in the Golf which has the highest quality cabin in the segment (even the door bins are padded).
Are VW sold in Europe made in Germany or still made in Mexico? In the USA Honda is more reliable than VW
The civic is by far the best car there. And put the head rest up, you might find it works a bit better.
I really really want to see a comparison between a VW Golf, Audi A3 and Seat Leon. What are the differences between those 3 variants of the same car?
After i got the civic1.5l last 3 monthes i think it's some fantastic car
Any problems whit car?How many km?tnx
Seat looks the best of the three
I think the Leon FR in its estate form looks the best. If you get the 184bhp diesel, you're getting a cheaper diesel vrs.
Edit Back ten months later, next month I'll be taking delivery of the ST FR 2l tsi 190 👍.
I still don't like the looks of the model in the video trh 3 door SC and 5 door ST are both better looking to me.
I wanted an Octavia vrs estate, but I just couldn't get use to the new front lights the Octavia has, so went with the ST FR 190.
So you are sure for the european vw iwned brands like seat or skoda not asians ??
Im glad theres more variation of manufacturers on the channel now :)
The civic looks amazing in real life
@Joey Shabadoo ...do you understand English?
@Joey Shabadoo
Your thick
@@dragonballheroes7278 Looks like you're answering Jim Carrey in the dumb & dumber movie...
@@joeyshabadoo2516 the video isn't real life. It's a bloody video?
Real life is seeing the car in the flesh 🙄
@@joeyshabadoo2516 you just can't educate some people 🙄
The Honda is the best here.
Quality better than the others.
I must say this as a VAG driver.
Like the floating text, but you should out also the engines and hp in there
Am i the only who finds the civic look good
Yes
Nope I actually also like it..It has a bold design
You are in the minority
Ali Salahat No you are not, I find it it extremely attractive, most people don’t find it ugly, they just say it is because their favorite auto journalists says it is.
I don't have a favourite auto journalist and I find it hideous., most people I have spoken to about new cars don't like it.
You'll need the warranty with the Hyundai! My brand new one was in the garage 14 times in 4 months...... Got shot of it quickly
So... where's the Doug score on these cars at?
i know this is an old video now, but looking at getting a mk10 soon so been rewatching. 1 think i never understand is the headroom comment for the civic. when you back your head on the roof, your leaning back over the headrest .. try actually using the headrest. if you extent the headrest into the correct position, like you would on a front seat, then you'd be resting against it whilst in the more upright position where your heads isn't hitting the roof
All I know is that honda manages to be the best in its class!!!
Wish someone would do a decent review video of the 1.4 i30 N-Line.
The new Honda graphics for the 2018 models here in Canada (and I'm assuming the US) are actually the best I would say. It honestly feels like your using a fast android tablet as apposed to a high latency infotainment screen, though I'll agree the older systems are meh.
Hi Mat, I am considering the same Leon with the automatic, but extremely nervous about the reliability of the DSG7, would you you recommend this gearbox in terms of reliability?
And the FAMILY hatch winner is the new Skoda Octavia Hatch in SE Technology spec, with the 1.0 TSI motor, a 6 speed manual and maybe a couple of small extras, for just about 20k gbp.
lmao what delusion
Leon by far
josu lopez ya
Disagree
David Norman at least it is a lot better than a Renault or Peugeot
This fellow came to this test with preconceived notions. Now in 2020 [in lockdown], these cars' final positions would be reversed. It annoys me that car hacks continue to do this. What happened to warranty, reliability and other factors that were conveniently overlooked or largely ignored in the final score? However, I come from Australia where cars score differently, usually more powerful, and automatics are inverse to manuals cf the UK, and distances are huge, with a hot climate. So I see why the i30s rear air vents weren't big in this comparison. Other things aside, in Aussie, Seat would be a 'chair' 'cos it ain't sold here. As for the Civic. An embarrassment of wheels.
The looks to be the most stunning of the 3. And then you get the Honda reliability too
7:01 not a fan of that load cover design. It’s really thin and has a bit of a gap round it so you can easily hear everything moving/rattling in the boot
summer time in the UK?
lisajason111 yeh was thinking that! Its been cold as shit for a while now so I’m wondering when this video was uploaded..probably a old tape that got lost so someone decided to upload it
Really? I thought Brits only knew the summer thanks to Spanish beaches
The honda looks really nice
The civic is a bit expensive,but all cars are good tbh.I really like the extrerior design of the leon.
I just want to say, after an appealing experience with my previous hyundai i30 I will never buy another, the engine reliability was the worst I have ever had
Diesel or petrol?
Could please make a review for the Peugeot 208? Thank you!
If you take in account the equipment, the extra size and the overal performance and handling, the Civic is worth every penny of the premium. Styling is a matter of taste, but at least it stands out!
While the Hyundai might not drive as well as the other two, it has much better tech, it's styling is far more premium than the seat or Honda, it's comfortable, and it has a great warranty. I don't see how the Honda won. It's so fugly that it just ruins the good qualities about it.
Honda Civic Type R Best Buy
Seat Leon Cupra R Best Buy
Hyundai i30 2.9 CRDI SE Best Buy
I have never understood why it is so important that trunk shelf has to fit in the boot... either have it on or take it of
It's a shame that the infotainment system on the Honda is not up to par with the rest. If you use it daily I suppose it can become a nuisance. I presume they update the software every now and then? Perhaps it's better now?
in the Civic, the air vent frame should match the line coming from bottom left
Hyundai i30, definitely the winner
Yep. Civic all day. Agreed on the 1.5, but I personally prefer going back one generation and getting the 1.8 VTEC, simpler and more reliable
I got my Leon FR new for £13.000 (didnt even use carwow)
I really need a review of the Hyundai i30N 250 HP version
Can you please adjust the volume on voice over/non-voice over so that they match better? I keep jumping from around 20% volume all the way up to 80-ish%..
lot of people complaining about the civic's 1.0L 3 cylinder turbo engine, but it does produce 130hp. Now compare that to something like BMW's 114i with a 1.6L twin turbo engine producing 100hp which is no where near as efficient, and it doesn't seem so bad as an entry level engine.
Civic has pretty poor performance considering it has 130hp.
The Civic looks the best both externally and internally to me. The other vehicles seem too cookie cutter to me.
I really really don't get why the "touch screen OSs" is so slow!!! WTF... All the tablets and smartphones are so so so fast...
Would prefer a Skoda Octavia any day, more room in both the cabin & boot!
The center console of the Seat is directly taken from the Hyundai Elantra
Seat was first. Hyundai is just a copycat.
Other way around, and the i30 dash is straight out of a mazda 3 which is a copy of a BMW's, so a copy of a copy. Along with an infinity grille and golf mk6 rear and peugeot side styling, its a mash up of european cars, I don't blame them since their last i30 looked nasty, still looks good either way but being a copy of euro cars its no surprise there.
sic22l thats right. But it is way better to have copied elements rather than having a shitty interior from Mitsubishi Mirage.
That car is in a whole different segment.
Super_Slav but in other markets Elantra is the direct competitor of the Civic
You should test civic with 1.5T, other 2 cars have 4 cylinder turbo, Apple vs Apple.
You’re ageing fine Mat.
I have the Honda civic and it's a brilliant car ,can't fault it.
Hello @Carwow
Is it possible to review Honda Accord 1.5 T or the sport version 2.0 T
Appreciate your consideration
Honda #1.
Mat you do great reviews do one with the civic type r the i30n and the leon cupra r
All these interior would look so much better without a screen at all. I dont mean a smaller screen i mean no screen at all!
Omg those cars are so cheep in the uk! Why are they so expensive in my country 😢😭
Same here :(
Do the reviewers ever discuss how much each car will depreciate over a few years ? It's worth thinking about surely ? If he was to answer the question of "what would you buy after 3 or 5 years ?
Two years before i was out for a car and despite the logic says "take hyundai" i bought opel mokka cause of 140ps and the classy interior.
Two years later and after 10-15 times visiting dealers cause of mechanical problems, sold bought the new Hyundai i30 and the car is f** amazing!
We are thinking of buying the hyundai i30 2015 model with 1.4 motor 99 horsepower (we dont care much about hp) would you say this is a good buy? We also want a car thats thrustworthy and doesnt take much to maintain.
He hates the Seat cars because he is sponsored by VW. He always praises the engine but not the cars look which looks awesome
How does that make sense? Seat is part of the VWG
dosent make any sense... what swamps are you on. Seat = VW group
The Civic hands down wins in all departments imo
Ugly(both on the outside and the inside). A very not reliable engine. Doesn't feel as good as a FR(front engine - rear wheel drive) car. Does not sounds really great. It consumes more gas.
The only thing that this car wins is the trophy for the most shitty car of the 20 century lol
it is 21 st century..I must say that this car makes me very proud owner as I have heard so many people praising the styling of MY Civic. They simply love it. Never will this happen with either I30 or Leon..Never..just two very,very ordinary and boring cars .
Civic is the best I agree
you cannot compare seat and hyundai with a Civic.... Civic with it´s 180HP is more sporty, and not to mention the new type R
not to mention the i30N
Not to mention the Leon cupra
Tale a look at Seat Leon Estate ST. It has most the missing features in this review.