Let’s not forget the Hyundai 5 year warranty, better customer service, cheaper servicing costs and no fabricated emission figures! I will also mention the water pump that failed on my wife’s VW Polo 3 months after its warranty was up with 25k on the clock. VW effectively told me to get lost. Best car my backside.
What rock did you crawl out from under???? Fabricated emission figures????? Hyundai has paid billions to customers in North America for falsifying fuel economy.and don't forget the billions of dollars in payback to customers with blown engines. Hyundai is JUNK pure and simple.
Elmar B Rock and crawl! Low IQ maybe? 😂 Also, if you insist on using question marks as part of your insults or simple statements, please note that you only need one (1) question mark (?) at the end. Any more are wasted on me as I tend only answer a question once. 🤣
I think I would choose the I30 only for the main fact is that VW still have very poor customer service whereas Hyundai is much, much better. I know VW said they are improving until that is translated through to the local dealer service network it is still a work in action.
Excellent point. As I've said a lot on this channel, I'm a VW owner (2011 Golf Mk 6), and the work to improve customer service is definitely not finished yet. Hyundai aftersales support - and inexpensive maintenance - is a big benefit. Thanks for pointing it out.
Unknown Traveller Maybe in your country. In Canada, Hyundai talk a big game, but all I ever hear are horror stories from actually owners when they have a warranty claim. I've had five VW'S including one of the "dirty" TDI Touaregs and the service has been great. Hyundai are on a losing streak in North America. Sales are down every month.
NEVER go to VW service centres. Always find an indepedant VAG group specialist :) I love my GTI/Rs, but VWAus absolutely BLOWS. I'm looking at having to massively downgrade from a Golf R to a cheaper car, and I was looking at the Hyundai SRs simply because in Aus Hyundai are really trying to improve their ownership game. I still hesitate though, the Golfs are far better quality cars (when nothing goes wrong). At this point in time though it's a BMW 125i M sport (3yr old) for the same price as a brand new SR - seems to me the Beamer would be a far more enjoyable car to drive!
Unknown Traveller All your comment means to me is that you have to find a dealer and service department that treats you right. I went through three dealerships before landing on my current one, and so far things are great.
@@chasingcars You'll not need any special customer service for the first three years or 100.000km but only do scheduled maintenance. Then you change to a new car.
I test drove both and I ended up with the i30 premium. I was splitting hairs with the quality and driving and after negotiating, the Golf was going to be still $3,000-$4,000 more (with no options). But the Hyundai comes with 2 years more warranty and much cheaper servicing costs and better standard equipment. Also I hated the sunroof in the Golf as it only has a cheap manual see through curtain to pull over when you want to block out the sun (light still gets through). The Hyundai has a full auto blockout roof. **Plus I think this review is a little disingenuous. The options that the Golf has in the review total nearly $7,000, bring the TDI (with r line) price to nearly $49,000, where the Hyundai is $35,000. This is in Victoria.
Nice review! I test drove the Golf Trendline and the i30 Elite here in Australia. Their prices are almost exactly the same (after bargaining) with very similar safety/tech features although the i30 just has a bit more plus leather seats. My initial impression was that the Golf was a class above, especially in terms of interior look and feel and the engine (sounds really good too). The steering wheel felt so nice and smooth. Generally it is more comfortable. That said, I thought that the i30 was a very good car and felt better than the top selling Japanese cars (e.g. Mazda 3). Unfortunately, I was pretty annoyed by the DSG lag in the Golf. I couldn't stand that throttle delay before the obtaining the best of the engine, especially in urban traffic where I spend a lot of time in. The VW guy (who was very nice/respectful) suggested me to adjust my driving style and drive it more like a manual. But what I really wanted was a simple auto and traction the moment I step on it. Not very interested in adjusting my style. If the Golf had a normal auto box, I would have certainly picked it (a VW with a price of a Hyundai, pretty good value). However the DSG lag made me think hard. I realised that driving the i30 auto felt more natural and was the next best thing in the market for me. Crucially, it had 5 years warranty from Hyundai PLUS another 5 year mechanical warranty and roadside assist from the dealership (that's TEN years of warranty) compared to VW's 3 years. I intend to keep my new car for at least 5 years. The i30 also drinks regular unleaded vs VW's need for premium fuel and servicing costs are also lower. Styling wise, the i30 is fresher while the current generation Golf (like the Mazda3) is ageing. Finally, Dieselgate (and that darn Netflix documentary) did make me think a little bit about whether I really should put my money on VW company. So, I made the sensible choice for me. I purchased the i30 and very happy with it.
I completely agree. The i30 is a great car - it drives especially well and the economical diesel is terrific. The thing is, given these cars cost effectively the same amount in Australia, the Golf gives you just a bit more luxury and refinement.
Just one thing guys, I drive VW from my 18's. From the ( Golf 1 ), ( Golf 2 ), ( VW Lupo), ( Golf 4 ), ( Golf 5 ), ( Golf 6 ), and also I test drive an MK7R Fantastic cars the only problems with these cars I had is....No problem 😃😃 never never, and some of you here I'm sorry to say talk bullshit about VW cause you hate that VW going to come everywhere in the World. Well you can talk all day & night but the best wins ❤ VW ❤
Sadly, the reliablity reputation of VW is just a chimera. In 90% of studies I've seen in Europe (I'm french) this brand is in the end of the classements
There is a volume knob on the 8-inch version of the Golf touchscreen. The Discover Pro (9-inch) system has capacitive buttons and steering wheel controls only.
I think in this generation the Golf wins. It has better materials, feels more premium and has great handling. In next generation it could be Hyundai who wins. They make amazing improvements with every generation !
in the 90s, vw was good and hyundai was bad! but no more, now it's the other way around. Just hear bad about vw all the time. I just bought a Hyundai i30 1.4 DCT premium 2018 model.
In Croatia that i30 with that equipment costs around 25k Euros! And Golf with that kind of equipment is around 37k euros, maybe bit more since it's DSG so around 12-13k euros difference. I believe it's not much difference for whole Europe (i mean that golf is much more expensive), but can't say 100%
I don’t think the correct as tested price has been listed for the golf. With the colour, r line package and entertainment package it takes it about 41k plus on roads, whereas I believe the Hyundai includes all its options as priced Is the golf worth 8k more in this comparison? Volkswagen like all German car makers sting u with the options whereas Asian car makers usually include all the good stuff.
I would always prefer the i30. Even as a German I quit driving German cars many years ago - you just don't get enough "bang for the buck", and I will not pay so much more for just the brand logo.
The service intervals are the same on both (12 months, 15,000km). The Golf's warranty is shorter - 3 years, unlimited km, compared to 5 years, unlimited km. No unreasonable bias here - I stand by the justifications I've given for why the Golf comes out ahead.
Mate. The Golf also has a hidden floor. Which increases space significantly. Come on a bit more thoroughness. Because your videos are generally good. You also forgot to mention that the i30 used to a flip out reversing camera like the Golf, which they omitted now.
Art Key On the Canadian R, we don’t have the hidden boot, as AWD Haldex equipment and subwoofer takes it up. Seeing the ‘transmission tunnel’ made me assume that that’s what happened. Not sure if Oz gets a specific R trim without Haldex or something....
acchaladka the Golf reviewed here is a Highline in R-design. Basically a top of the range common golf in sports drag :-) I'm not sure of the Golf R here has a double floor given its 4motion system.
Reading all these comments about the unreliability for the Golf is quite sad. I was considering the Golf for a change. It seems like a nice design to me.
Remember, only the people who have had a bad experience are likely to get angry about it online. The majority with trouble free ownership don’t bother commenting...
all manufacturers have reliability issues. but when you pay 5-7k € more for the same equipment (in Germany) I would say it's not worth the trouble. I currently drive a golf 7 highline + some extras. it's nice, comfy, and everything else, but there's no emotion about it. It's a company car, so I didn't have a choice. I took a drive with an i30 and it is quite a leap from the previous generation. Plus the fact that the warranty with unlimited nr of km seals the deal. Yes, the golf has more refinement interior and exterior, better looking rear side(subjective), BUT it's not exciting. It feels just plain and boring. And it's way too expensive compared to i30. Just ordered an i30 with most of the options (manual gearbox, no panoramic roof) and after bargaining, the final price was around 22k €. Same configuration on golf was around 28-29k €. You do the math, for me it's not worth the money. My initial plan was to go for a high trim civic, but it was a bit too expensive for me. So, if money aren't an issue for you, go for a CIVIC! since I cant afford one, I went on value for money :)
The ACCC doesn’t publish aggregated complaint data to the public, as far as we have identified. If you have that data do let us know. Private organisations here do track reliability, like Canstar.
I own a ix35 and could not be more satisfied. Just an honest and reliable car that is worth every penny.I had lesser expectations but the car has prooved me wrong.
Old boy, or should I say , young man. Sure, the VW is a 6 gen. refined car. But. With the i30 shows Hyundai we are looking at the future. This is indeed true of the combined Hyundai/Kia Group. Whilst in 1961, my first car was the new VW Beetle uprated 40hp from the '60 36hp, and whilst it was astoundingly well built (remember they floated), I/we must face the future with honesty. Almost like Stockbokers. It's okay to love something like a brand, but evidence always trumps emotion when it comes to picking a winner. And we both know that.
Just a few things to note, the rear doors have hard plastic, the boot had an adjustable floor. Your economy figures are little high. I get 6.5 around town and low 5s and even 4.8 on a good run on the highway (90tsi). I think the i30 SR premium would have been the better comparison in this case.
Yep, hard rear upper door plastics in both these cars. As for economy, the 110TSI - which is boosted further and is burdened with more mass in the Highline - is thirstier than the 90TSI (I own a 90TSI-equipped Golf), and we aim to recreate real world conditions including traffic in a relatively controlled test using both vehicles simultaneously - these are the results. As for SR Premium vs Premium, I requested a plain Highline for this piece but received a Highline fitted with the R-Line package, so I had to roll with it.
May i add that you forgot to talk about the difference in exterior lighting. The rear lights are LED on the Golf and the headlights that are also LED if i am not mistaken.
NZsarge1 my personal experience with skoda VRS (albeit not built in germany) and vw support wasnt good. My friends 1 year old golf also broke down on the side of the road which they had repaired under warranty and seems ok now. Its good you havent suffered any problems with your golfs and enjoying the ownership experience.
Volkswagens are not unreliable. VW are the largest automaker in the world and the Golf is the best selling car in several European countries. People simply wouldn't buy them if they were as unreliable as comments on youtube make out. In the same way that iPhone are statistically the most reliable smartphone you can buy, and a Mcdonalds is the safest fast food available, the masses would reject bad, shoddy products.
Zooks so your experience makes VW unreliable? Thats such a bullshit man, and u know it.. 😏 so much people in the comment sections these days are so full of shit.. wow!
Hyundai has put a lot of effort in quality for the past years and the results are remarkable. The i30 looks great. But I love the Golf. Right now my second Golf is sitting at my parking space in the condo where I live. It's a brand new Golf Highline with only 142 km on the odometer, I took delivery of it this week. I stick with this classic, great German car, but keep an eye on the Hyundai! By the way, great video, thank you for your insight.
Hopefully they'll bring you guys the Active Info Display in an update next year. We're lucky to get the Euro-spec Golf here in Australia, although we sadly missed out on the new 1.5TSI Evo engine.
i30 is such a popular car in Australia that the amount of it I saw when I was having a vacation in Australia was even larger than the amount of kangaroos I saw lol
you can get a i30 sr premium for $32,500 maybe even cheaper now that we have a new year coming up. The golf's insides do look alot nicer compared to the hyundai .
@Aidan papa. You might be right as that quote that I got was in December 2017 in Sydney. But you dont need luck. Just time,research, shopping around and a good talking game. I have a $32,800 quote on paper from the dealer. It was a White Sr premium with matts and weather shields. Pano roof , electric chairs and all that extra tech. Drive away. If you are shopping for one and want a copy. Pm me and ill email it over to you. Dealers might chase abit more for a 2018 build but if I was to shop for one today I would not pay over $33k drive away.
Kwa Nguyen fair enough good price mate. Here is my most recent price including my tradin Toyota corolla accent 2006 automatic sedan. Fiery Red Sr premium dct 2018 build so not last years car. Interior pack. Exterior pack. Rubber cargo liner Scuff plates Black and white slim line plates. Change over price was $33.300 Total price is $36800 So for a new 2018 build this would be a super good price considering the extras. Thanks for the info and advice my friend xD
Back seat part is just a lie. The golf is awful with front and year leg room. Driving the golf is good, but as a passenger it feels quite harsh. Also, this wasn't a fair model comparison, should of been SR Premium vs Golf Comfortline with no options. SR Premium would blow a Comfortline out the water in almost every way possible.
There is no doubting that for quality, driving ambiance, general ownership cache' there is no comparison to the golf in this class. Have them service by the correct VW dealership too, right parts, guaranteed and preservation of perfect service history. I've tried 3rd parties with a BMW X3 for example and their parts were a joke. do the right thing ...you know it makes sense :)
All fair points. We don't make any attempt to minimise that VWs are not as easy (or cheap) to own as Hyundai. So if your goal is a super cheap servicing experience, buy the i30, absolutely. We just make the point that the Golf's crappy servicing experience is worthwhile because it's quite a bit more fun to drive and more comfortable to use.
Who the hell needs VW electric seat adjustment ? I bought my current car 4 years ago, adjusted the seat & the mirrors there n then, job done. I guess the i30 cooled seats might be nice in Australia.
I own a Volkswagen Golf R32 4Motion Dsg Mk5, end 2008 model Clutch/dsg failed at 65k. Brand new clutch /dsg from Volkswagen directly cost me £1500+labour, took it to £2300 Now at 67k on the clock one of the rear differential failed. New differential from Volkswagen directly is £2500+vat +labour not included. Still, however I'm still thinking considering Volkswagen Golf R TSI 310,latest model as my next purchase. I do like the Hyundai latest model I30N sport, however, it only comes with manual transmission wich kinda puts me off, I live in London so dsg /automatic transmission is a must for me!
golf definetly wins looks better interior is better layed out and from personalt experience it drives better though that isnt a huge difference the speakers are better overall and the vag digital drives display is best in class the golf has dab+ here in europe at least. Reliability isnt bad on vw's at all here in europe maintenace is higher on hyundai's then volkswagens here you rarely see i30's
I own a Volkswagen Golf R32 4Motion Dsg Mk5, end 2008 model Clutch/dsg failed at 65k. Brand new clutch /dsg from Volkswagen directly cost me £1500+labour, took it to £2300 Now at 67k on the clock one of the rear differential failed. New differential from Volkswagen directly is £2500+vat +labour not included.
I'm guessing that, as an auto journalist, you don't actually have to go through the whole long term ownership / dealer experience/reliability thing with your own 'hard earned' cash. That's why I bought a Hyundai TD i30 Turbo Premium & not a VW. To clarify my point , you should know, that in 1961, I bought my first car, a newly released ('61) VW Beetle, a wonderful & beautifully crafted vehicle, but only after 'defying' my Dad who favoured other small cars, mainly from Britain. If nowadays VW REALLY CARED about the consumer, I would probably, by default, have bought a V 'DUB. In 2004 I bought a [second] car, a GETZ & such was & still is it's reliability, Hyundai won me over! You see, I'm not a "badge snob" although I must admit to in the '1960's' owning a then new Jag XKE-Type, esp good for chasing 'the chics'(not PC I know). As an aeroplane pilot, in those heady days, such was expected of me.
What an impressive review for I30 ! but you know what guys? Hyundai makes the worst car when they sell to Korean people. exported ones are much better like the airbag works. In Korea it does not work
Dont forget Golf is much more expensive than I30, I30 has diesel 1.6 who is more expensive than a petrol as Golf 1.4 l has, but Golf in Europe cost ca.5000 us dollar more.
The golf gives a premium feel however, it's only on the surface, don't be fooled! I had a golf for 6 years and at 90Kms it felt like it had done 290Kms. Constant issues and serious mechanical problems, not to mention dishonest and deceptive dealers. I would choose the I30 for reliability and modern design, less dealer issues and less dishonesty.
Whole of life the Golf will cost more, it’s true. Just depends on what you want from the car. For me, the Golf’s dynamic edge and more luxurious feel inside and out mean that marginal extra outlay is worth it, but each to their own.
Michael Zhu refinement and looks are subjective. Objectively the i30 makes more sense on warranty alone. Also you would expect it to look better as this one had the R Line pack fitted....
would like to see which one holds up to its name in years..I would bet Hyundai...VWs nowadays have problems with electronics, just imagine your beautiful digi-screen for the speedometer and rev-meeter shutting down or your car having problems with the soft, or whatever. This is why you see forums for Volkswagen with a loooot of issues, than say, KIA, Hyundai or Toyota....
With a dry clutch gearbox from the Golf 7.5, I would assume the problem from the previous generation is the same then? I have experience constant shuddering / slipping problem in second to third gear from my Mk 7. I wonder why don’t they change it to a wet clutch gearbox?
Cost is the reason. The dry clutch unit is essentially the same as used in the Mk 7 110TSI but it's had software updates. Felt fine in this car apart from occasional characteristic 1-2 hesitation. As a DSG owner I have found that driving it purposefully and essentially like a manual eliminates most issues.
Not quite right. Mechanically there’s a difference; in Australia all trims were upgraded to the 110kW/250Nm tune of the 1.4T - preciously only Highline received this. Plus we think new infotainment + Active Info Display is pretty significant interior-wise. 🤷🏼♂️
I've never owned Hyundai in my life so I don't understand the sudden hype but my god the Golf needs to go back to their drawing board I've owned the MK5 and it was probably the most unreliable car I've driven in my life next to Nissan Awful build quality with transmission built out of glass, anyone who says otherwise are obviously fanboys
drsnowmon I’ve had super-solid experience with my mk 6 manual TDI, oddly all issues went away after I left the warranty period. Trading up to an R next month. Cheers from Montréal.
Don't know how in the world people can compare a VW car, with any Corean- Chinese. Only if you know nothing about the subject. I would consider it if the price was half priced.
All these cheap wannabe competitors to the Golf. The Golf has reigned supreme since its introduction in the late 70's. It has always been the benchmark in it's class. It is by far the best all around car again in it's class. The Golf is legendary.
Looks like less room in both width wise compared to a budget airline. Unfortunately all new cars now restrict any lateral movement giving a feeling of being hemmed in in a claustrophobic manner. Too much plastic, too much tech too much unnecessary clutter which removes the skill of a driver. Who can map read an atlas these days? Cup holders? Why when drinking while driving even if it's tea coffee or water is still illegal. Electric windows, mirrors sunroofs, seats, twatnav, all items to go wrong. What happened to basic reliable and hassel free motoring which means cheaper repairs. People are getting peed off with all this tech which doesn't enhance the motoring experience, it distracts. I've had an i30 diesel. Be careful of the dpf. Need to be driven over a long distance at speed to keep dpf clean other wise you could find a hefty bill. Golf diesel dpf just as expensive to replace. Stick to petrol and use cruise control to get maximum mpg.
Let’s not forget the Hyundai 5 year warranty, better customer service, cheaper servicing costs and no fabricated emission figures! I will also mention the water pump that failed on my wife’s VW Polo 3 months after its warranty was up with 25k on the clock. VW effectively told me to get lost. Best car my backside.
7 years where i live for free :)
What rock did you crawl out from under???? Fabricated emission figures????? Hyundai has paid billions to customers in North America for falsifying fuel economy.and don't forget the billions of dollars in payback to customers with blown engines. Hyundai is JUNK pure and simple.
Elmar B Rock and crawl! Low IQ maybe? 😂
Also, if you insist on using question marks as part of your insults or simple statements, please note that you only need one (1) question mark (?) at the end. Any more are wasted on me as I tend only answer a question once. 🤣
Just say one sentence
"I drive a HYUNDAI "
Hahahahahaha
@@elmarb8584 you're talking nonsense and spreading lies.
I think I would choose the I30 only for the main fact is that VW still have very poor customer service whereas Hyundai is much, much better. I know VW said they are improving until that is translated through to the local dealer service network it is still a work in action.
Excellent point. As I've said a lot on this channel, I'm a VW owner (2011 Golf Mk 6), and the work to improve customer service is definitely not finished yet. Hyundai aftersales support - and inexpensive maintenance - is a big benefit. Thanks for pointing it out.
Unknown Traveller
Maybe in your country. In Canada, Hyundai talk a big game, but all I ever hear are horror stories from actually owners when they have a warranty claim. I've had five VW'S including one of the "dirty" TDI Touaregs and the service has been great. Hyundai are on a losing streak in North America. Sales are down every month.
NEVER go to VW service centres. Always find an indepedant VAG group specialist :) I love my GTI/Rs, but VWAus absolutely BLOWS. I'm looking at having to massively downgrade from a Golf R to a cheaper car, and I was looking at the Hyundai SRs simply because in Aus Hyundai are really trying to improve their ownership game. I still hesitate though, the Golfs are far better quality cars (when nothing goes wrong). At this point in time though it's a BMW 125i M sport (3yr old) for the same price as a brand new SR - seems to me the Beamer would be a far more enjoyable car to drive!
Unknown Traveller All your comment means to me is that you have to find a dealer and service department that treats you right. I went through three dealerships before landing on my current one, and so far things are great.
@@chasingcars You'll not need any special customer service for the first three years or 100.000km but only do scheduled maintenance. Then you change to a new car.
I test drove both and I ended up with the i30 premium. I was splitting hairs with the quality and driving and after negotiating, the Golf was going to be still $3,000-$4,000 more (with no options). But the Hyundai comes with 2 years more warranty and much cheaper servicing costs and better standard equipment. Also I hated the sunroof in the Golf as it only has a cheap manual see through curtain to pull over when you want to block out the sun (light still gets through). The Hyundai has a full auto blockout roof.
**Plus I think this review is a little disingenuous. The options that the Golf has in the review total nearly $7,000, bring the TDI (with r line) price to nearly $49,000, where the Hyundai is $35,000. This is in Victoria.
Nice review! I test drove the Golf Trendline and the i30 Elite here in Australia. Their prices are almost exactly the same (after bargaining) with very similar safety/tech features although the i30 just has a bit more plus leather seats. My initial impression was that the Golf was a class above, especially in terms of interior look and feel and the engine (sounds really good too). The steering wheel felt so nice and smooth. Generally it is more comfortable. That said, I thought that the i30 was a very good car and felt better than the top selling Japanese cars (e.g. Mazda 3). Unfortunately, I was pretty annoyed by the DSG lag in the Golf. I couldn't stand that throttle delay before the obtaining the best of the engine, especially in urban traffic where I spend a lot of time in. The VW guy (who was very nice/respectful) suggested me to adjust my driving style and drive it more like a manual. But what I really wanted was a simple auto and traction the moment I step on it. Not very interested in adjusting my style. If the Golf had a normal auto box, I would have certainly picked it (a VW with a price of a Hyundai, pretty good value). However the DSG lag made me think hard. I realised that driving the i30 auto felt more natural and was the next best thing in the market for me. Crucially, it had 5 years warranty from Hyundai PLUS another 5 year mechanical warranty and roadside assist from the dealership (that's TEN years of warranty) compared to VW's 3 years. I intend to keep my new car for at least 5 years. The i30 also drinks regular unleaded vs VW's need for premium fuel and servicing costs are also lower. Styling wise, the i30 is fresher while the current generation Golf (like the Mazda3) is ageing. Finally, Dieselgate (and that darn Netflix documentary) did make me think a little bit about whether I really should put my money on VW company. So, I made the sensible choice for me. I purchased the i30 and very happy with it.
What a well considered comment and buying process. Bravo, you bought a really good car out of two great options.
Hyundai is impresive though
I completely agree. The i30 is a great car - it drives especially well and the economical diesel is terrific. The thing is, given these cars cost effectively the same amount in Australia, the Golf gives you just a bit more luxury and refinement.
Make my night VW vs Hyundai what a compare OMG
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i30 is great.
An accurate depiction of the two contenders.
I am a 220Km 2009 Mk6 TDI owner and very happy with it.
all my german cars(Volksvagen Jetta, Passat and Audi A4) have had a reliability issues so far w/ good refined feeling. I would take I30.
Good to know. Thank you for sharing.
Probably you should avoid TSI+DSG models, TDI with manuals are still rather reliable
Sadly, no Golf TDI manuals are available in Australia. Only one Golf TDI is offered (and it's top of the range with DSG).
Just one thing guys, I drive VW from my 18's.
From the ( Golf 1 ), ( Golf 2 ),
( VW Lupo), ( Golf 4 ), ( Golf 5 ), ( Golf 6 ), and also I test drive an MK7R Fantastic cars the only problems with these cars I had is....No problem 😃😃 never never, and some of you here I'm sorry to say talk bullshit about VW cause you hate that VW going to come everywhere in the World.
Well you can talk all day & night but the best wins ❤ VW ❤
Sadly, the reliablity reputation of VW is just a chimera. In 90% of studies I've seen in Europe (I'm french) this brand is in the end of the classements
Huge fan of Hyundai Cars...
I like Hyundai i30 1.6L awesome comparison
No volume knob on the Golf. i30 wins.
There is a volume knob on the 8-inch version of the Golf touchscreen. The Discover Pro (9-inch) system has capacitive buttons and steering wheel controls only.
A TDI Golf Highline with the R package is $49k vs $38k for the i30 premium = not the same money
@TARAS TARAS where? in eastern Europe the i30N 2.0 275hp costs 33.000€
I think in this generation the Golf wins. It has better materials, feels more premium and has great handling. In next generation it could be Hyundai who wins. They make amazing improvements with every generation !
in the 90s, vw was good and hyundai was bad! but no more, now it's the other way around. Just hear bad about vw all the time. I just bought a Hyundai i30 1.4 DCT premium 2018 model.
Hyundai i30new looks much fresher and better than golf👍
Stanislav N.B. Well the golf is 6 years old. Hyundai already looks old and cluttered
2018 Hyundai i30 is more better, looks very good!. 🤜🏼 VW Golf.
In Croatia that i30 with that equipment costs around 25k Euros! And Golf with that kind of equipment is around 37k euros, maybe bit more since it's DSG so around 12-13k euros difference. I believe it's not much difference for whole Europe (i mean that golf is much more expensive), but can't say 100%
Yes, here in Australia the Golf is much more affordably priced.
I don’t think the correct as tested price has been listed for the golf. With the colour, r line package and entertainment package it takes it about 41k plus on roads, whereas I believe the Hyundai includes all its options as priced Is the golf worth 8k more in this comparison? Volkswagen like all German car makers sting u with the options whereas Asian car makers usually include all the good stuff.
I30
I would always prefer the i30.
Even as a German I quit driving German cars many years ago - you just don't get enough "bang for the buck", and I will not pay so much more for just the brand logo.
What is the warranty and service intervals like? This review seems very bias towards the Golf.
The service intervals are the same on both (12 months, 15,000km). The Golf's warranty is shorter - 3 years, unlimited km, compared to 5 years, unlimited km. No unreasonable bias here - I stand by the justifications I've given for why the Golf comes out ahead.
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I choose Hyundai
Mate. The Golf also has a hidden floor. Which increases space significantly. Come on a bit more thoroughness. Because your videos are generally good. You also forgot to mention that the i30 used to a flip out reversing camera like the Golf, which they omitted now.
Art Key On the Canadian R, we don’t have the hidden boot, as AWD Haldex equipment and subwoofer takes it up. Seeing the ‘transmission tunnel’ made me assume that that’s what happened. Not sure if Oz gets a specific R trim without Haldex or something....
acchaladka the Golf reviewed here is a Highline in R-design. Basically a top of the range common golf in sports drag :-) I'm not sure of the Golf R here has a double floor given its 4motion system.
Reading all these comments about the unreliability for the Golf is quite sad. I was considering the Golf for a change. It seems like a nice design to me.
Remember, only the people who have had a bad experience are likely to get angry about it online. The majority with trouble free ownership don’t bother commenting...
all manufacturers have reliability issues. but when you pay 5-7k € more for the same equipment (in Germany) I would say it's not worth the trouble. I currently drive a golf 7 highline + some extras. it's nice, comfy, and everything else, but there's no emotion about it. It's a company car, so I didn't have a choice. I took a drive with an i30 and it is quite a leap from the previous generation. Plus the fact that the warranty with unlimited nr of km seals the deal.
Yes, the golf has more refinement interior and exterior, better looking rear side(subjective), BUT it's not exciting. It feels just plain and boring. And it's way too expensive compared to i30. Just ordered an i30 with most of the options (manual gearbox, no panoramic roof) and after bargaining, the final price was around 22k €. Same configuration on golf was around 28-29k €. You do the math, for me it's not worth the money.
My initial plan was to go for a high trim civic, but it was a bit too expensive for me. So, if money aren't an issue for you, go for a CIVIC! since I cant afford one, I went on value for money :)
The ACCC doesn’t publish aggregated complaint data to the public, as far as we have identified. If you have that data do let us know. Private organisations here do track reliability, like Canstar.
I own a ix35 and could not be more satisfied. Just an honest and reliable car that is worth every penny.I had lesser expectations but the car has prooved me wrong.
lets not forget the golf in this version is almost $$50.000..... very bias review
As my second car, hyundai i30 is good enough and reliable
Old boy, or should I say , young man. Sure, the VW is a 6 gen. refined car. But. With the i30 shows Hyundai we are looking at the future. This is indeed true of the combined Hyundai/Kia Group. Whilst in 1961, my first car was the new VW Beetle uprated 40hp from the '60 36hp, and whilst it was astoundingly well built (remember they floated), I/we must face the future with honesty. Almost like Stockbokers. It's okay to love something like a brand, but evidence always trumps emotion when it comes to picking a winner. And we both know that.
VW Golf 7.5 Diesel $43,500 with a 3 year unlimited km warranty.
Hyundai i30 Diesel Premium $39,500 with a 5 year unlimited km warranty.
Price and warranty are two of the important factors at play, but they’re certainly not the only important factors
love i30
Just a few things to note, the rear doors have hard plastic, the boot had an adjustable floor. Your economy figures are little high. I get 6.5 around town and low 5s and even 4.8 on a good run on the highway (90tsi). I think the i30 SR premium would have been the better comparison in this case.
Yep, hard rear upper door plastics in both these cars. As for economy, the 110TSI - which is boosted further and is burdened with more mass in the Highline - is thirstier than the 90TSI (I own a 90TSI-equipped Golf), and we aim to recreate real world conditions including traffic in a relatively controlled test using both vehicles simultaneously - these are the results. As for SR Premium vs Premium, I requested a plain Highline for this piece but received a Highline fitted with the R-Line package, so I had to roll with it.
Chasing Cars Oh, I forgot to add that I enjoy the reviews on this channel.
Haha, thank you - I appreciate the support!
May i add that you forgot to talk about the difference in exterior lighting. The rear lights are LED on the Golf and the headlights that are also LED if i am not mistaken.
Vw golf interior looks awsome
Only interior 👌
what a great review, well done. the vw looks the business but its unreliable. my pic is the i30.
Thanks Zooks!
All my Volkswagen have been perfectly reliable including my mk7 golf, can’t have asked for a more pleasant ownership experience at the price point.
NZsarge1 my personal experience with skoda VRS (albeit not built in germany) and vw support wasnt good. My friends 1 year old golf also broke down on the side of the road which they had repaired under warranty and seems ok now. Its good you havent suffered any problems with your golfs and enjoying the ownership experience.
Volkswagens are not unreliable. VW are the largest automaker in the world and the Golf is the best selling car in several European countries. People simply wouldn't buy them if they were as unreliable as comments on youtube make out. In the same way that iPhone are statistically the most reliable smartphone you can buy, and a Mcdonalds is the safest fast food available, the masses would reject bad, shoddy products.
Zooks so your experience makes VW unreliable? Thats such a bullshit man, and u know it.. 😏 so much people in the comment sections these days are so full of shit.. wow!
Hyundai has put a lot of effort in quality for the past years and the results are remarkable. The i30 looks great. But I love the Golf. Right now my second Golf is sitting at my parking space in the condo where I live. It's a brand new Golf Highline with only 142 km on the odometer, I took delivery of it this week. I stick with this classic, great German car, but keep an eye on the Hyundai! By the way, great video, thank you for your insight.
Thanks for sharing! Hope you enjoy your new Golf. I agree - Hyundai is really one to watch going forward. They are improving in leaps and bounds.
Great review. I30 does look much cheaper inside out than Golf. Golf looks premium.
Feels premium too!
I30 . What a beauty!!!
I wish they brought that full 7.5 refresh to the states, that digital dash is really cool!
Hopefully they'll bring you guys the Active Info Display in an update next year. We're lucky to get the Euro-spec Golf here in Australia, although we sadly missed out on the new 1.5TSI Evo engine.
You can get the digital dash in the Golf R and in the eGolf...the 7.5 R is in Canada now and arriving in the US in late January or so.
i30 is such a popular car in Australia that the amount of it I saw when I was having a vacation in Australia was even larger than the amount of kangaroos I saw lol
you can get a i30 sr premium for $32,500 maybe even cheaper now that we have a new year coming up.
The golf's insides do look alot nicer compared to the hyundai .
The i30 SR's pricing is really sharp,
Lol good luck getting i30 Sr premium 2018 build for $32k mate? Not here in Melbourne at least
@Aidan papa. You might be right as that quote that I got was in December 2017 in Sydney. But you dont need luck. Just time,research, shopping around and a good talking game.
I have a $32,800 quote on paper from the dealer.
It was a White Sr premium with matts and weather shields. Pano roof , electric chairs and all that extra tech. Drive away.
If you are shopping for one and want a copy. Pm me and ill email it over to you.
Dealers might chase abit more for a 2018 build but if I was to shop for one today I would not pay over $33k drive away.
Kwa Nguyen fair enough good price mate. Here is my most recent price including my tradin Toyota corolla accent 2006 automatic sedan.
Fiery Red Sr premium dct 2018 build so not last years car.
Interior pack.
Exterior pack.
Rubber cargo liner
Scuff plates
Black and white slim line plates.
Change over price was $33.300
Total price is
$36800
So for a new 2018 build this would be a super good price considering the extras. Thanks for the info and advice my friend xD
Also there are hail damaged Sr premiums for sale on carsales for the same if not $33-34k in Melbourne
I'm going to upgrade from i20 to i30 in 2019 Insha Allah ...
Nice intro music! Good, comprehensive review, too.
Thanks a lot!
Back seat part is just a lie. The golf is awful with front and year leg room. Driving the golf is good, but as a passenger it feels quite harsh. Also, this wasn't a fair model comparison, should of been SR Premium vs Golf Comfortline with no options. SR Premium would blow a Comfortline out the water in almost every way possible.
Man, the Hyundai looks kinda cheap next to that particular Golf. I really love that sport package on the Golf. It looks far more upscale.
Golf is rubbish!!!
There is no doubting that for quality, driving ambiance, general ownership cache' there is no comparison to the golf in this class. Have them service by the correct VW dealership too, right parts, guaranteed and preservation of perfect service history. I've tried 3rd parties with a BMW X3 for example and their parts were a joke. do the right thing ...you know it makes sense :)
All fair points. We don't make any attempt to minimise that VWs are not as easy (or cheap) to own as Hyundai. So if your goal is a super cheap servicing experience, buy the i30, absolutely. We just make the point that the Golf's crappy servicing experience is worthwhile because it's quite a bit more fun to drive and more comfortable to use.
I must admit, I am not sold on the digestal drivers displays that are coming out, VW, Merc etc.
Who the hell needs VW electric seat adjustment ? I bought my current car 4 years ago, adjusted the seat & the mirrors there n then, job done. I guess the i30 cooled seats might be nice in Australia.
Some people have more than one person driving a car?
Every VW I've had has failed at some point except a 08 Jetta which I hardly used. Now I only use Toyota.
Vw isn’t that reliable. I bought a new gold, and already it’s had issues. Fuel flap keeps opening, infotainment system failed
I30 win!!!
No mention of warranty terms or servicing costs...
I own a Volkswagen Golf R32 4Motion Dsg Mk5, end 2008 model
Clutch/dsg failed at 65k.
Brand new clutch /dsg from Volkswagen directly cost me £1500+labour, took it to £2300
Now at 67k on the clock one of the rear differential failed.
New differential from Volkswagen directly is £2500+vat +labour not included.
Still, however I'm still thinking considering Volkswagen Golf R TSI 310,latest model as my next purchase.
I do like the Hyundai latest model I30N sport, however, it only comes with manual transmission wich kinda puts me off, I live in London so dsg /automatic transmission is a must for me!
why would you buy another vw if the old one was so unreliable? I wouldn't.
Asians make more reliable cars.
well done! Good review!
Thanks a lot!
exterior i30 interior golf
I would have said the opposite!
Trend in these kind of videos is to hate on the better car
VW GOLF OF COURSE FORGET ABOUT CARTOON BOXY CAR 🚗. Golf always the best car specialy steering feedback and suspension
nah, you're just a fanboy
JW96 we own hyundai I30 2014 and you can't compare it to VW GOLF belive me don't believe what they said
golf definetly wins looks better interior is better layed out and from personalt experience it drives better though that isnt a huge difference the speakers are better overall and the vag digital drives display is best in class the golf has dab+ here in europe at least. Reliability isnt bad on vw's at all here in europe maintenace is higher on hyundai's then volkswagens here you rarely see i30's
VW is definitely better looking inside out but major design/build quality problems with DSG (which vw doesn't admit) makes me choose hyundai.
Fair enough. In many ways it'd be a good thing if the Golf received the 8 speed torque converter, like the US market.
I own a Volkswagen Golf R32 4Motion Dsg Mk5, end 2008 model
Clutch/dsg failed at 65k.
Brand new clutch /dsg from Volkswagen directly cost me £1500+labour, took it to £2300
Now at 67k on the clock one of the rear differential failed.
New differential from Volkswagen directly is £2500+vat +labour not included.
But what advantages do they have over a train? Which I could also afford.
Good stuff man
Much appreciated
Should compare i30 SR premium Turbo petrol 34990 with that golf
Wasn’t available 🤷🏼♂️
Chasing Cars Thanks for ur reply What would you buy highline or SR Premium?
I wish VW of North America would put the 1.4 TSI in the Golf. Mid 7 L/100 km around town is about 2 L/100 km better than our 1.8 TSI.
It’s a great engine.
look what Volkswagen mean after talk for Hyundai i30 is the best
I'm guessing that, as an auto journalist, you don't actually have to go through the whole long term ownership / dealer experience/reliability thing with your own 'hard earned' cash. That's why I bought a Hyundai TD i30 Turbo Premium & not a VW. To clarify my point , you should know, that in 1961, I bought my first car, a newly released ('61) VW Beetle, a wonderful & beautifully crafted vehicle, but only after 'defying' my Dad who favoured other small cars, mainly from Britain. If nowadays VW REALLY CARED about the consumer, I would probably, by default, have bought a V 'DUB. In 2004 I bought a [second] car, a GETZ & such was & still is it's reliability, Hyundai won me over! You see, I'm not a "badge snob" although I must admit to in the '1960's' owning a then new Jag XKE-Type, esp good for chasing 'the chics'(not PC I know). As an aeroplane pilot, in those heady days, such was expected of me.
Jake and I are both have (ongoing) long-term ownership experience. Some car journalists don't own their own cars, but we do.
What an impressive review for I30 ! but you know what guys? Hyundai makes the worst car when they sell to Korean people. exported ones are much better like the airbag works. In Korea it does not work
Dont forget Golf is much more expensive than I30, I30 has diesel 1.6 who is more expensive than a petrol as Golf 1.4 l has, but Golf in Europe cost ca.5000 us dollar more.
Nice note about the hanging shirt LOL
I'm European and would never buy a golf it's absolute rubbish, and all my car seats move up down forward and back
The golf gives a premium feel however, it's only on the surface, don't be fooled! I had a golf for 6 years and at 90Kms it felt like it had done 290Kms. Constant issues and serious mechanical problems, not to mention dishonest and deceptive dealers. I would choose the I30 for reliability and modern design, less dealer issues and less dishonesty.
Golf is more refined and better looking but will cost more too. I'd still take it over the i30
Whole of life the Golf will cost more, it’s true. Just depends on what you want from the car. For me, the Golf’s dynamic edge and more luxurious feel inside and out mean that marginal extra outlay is worth it, but each to their own.
Hasn’t for me as a Mk 6 owner of 6 years (which was well before becoming a car journalist)
Michael Zhu refinement and looks are subjective. Objectively the i30 makes more sense on warranty alone. Also you would expect it to look better as this one had the R Line pack fitted....
Refinement isn’t subjective
The Golf's design is timeless. And that's one heck of an accomplishment by VW.
Hyundai is the best!!!!
There is no big difference in quality so golf does not pay to take, and hyundai is even more beautiful than golf ... my choice is i30
Davor Vrscak You need to go to visit the optician dude.. Damn 😂
EGGBIRDTHEROOSTER. Golf is not worth these money ... it's just an average car with average quality, poor design and boring inside
Veryy beatiful Hyundai 👌
I think the gingham print is starting to look dated. 2018 is more about darker natural tones like army green. Looks great in a tailored fit.
would like to see which one holds up to its name in years..I would bet Hyundai...VWs nowadays have problems with electronics, just imagine your beautiful digi-screen for the speedometer and rev-meeter shutting down or your car having problems with the soft, or whatever. This is why you see forums for Volkswagen with a loooot of issues, than say, KIA, Hyundai or Toyota....
Best Peugeot ever made
i choose the golf. why? because they are not in the same level.
I take the Hyundai. The VW has the crap Tsi or Tdi engine with lot of Problems. And the Hyundai looks better.
Can you do a review of the Golf Alltrack?
pls remove the dandruff before filming. balanced review with the goods and the bads as always. thumbsup.
Shut up
Design i30 but i choose golf look so comfortable
The Golf is more comfortable, yep.
Golf is the best hatch ever made.
German and japanese cars are the best, i have no doubt!
Golf definitely
With a dry clutch gearbox from the Golf 7.5, I would assume the problem from the previous generation is the same then? I have experience constant shuddering / slipping problem in second to third gear from my Mk 7. I wonder why don’t they change it to a wet clutch gearbox?
Cost is the reason. The dry clutch unit is essentially the same as used in the Mk 7 110TSI but it's had software updates. Felt fine in this car apart from occasional characteristic 1-2 hesitation. As a DSG owner I have found that driving it purposefully and essentially like a manual eliminates most issues.
then why do I buy an automatic if I have to drive it like a manual to behave normally???
Golf is not significantly updated. It got a face lift, same interior same mechanics.
Not quite right. Mechanically there’s a difference; in Australia all trims were upgraded to the 110kW/250Nm tune of the 1.4T - preciously only Highline received this. Plus we think new infotainment + Active Info Display is pretty significant interior-wise. 🤷🏼♂️
no matter... i'd pick the vw anytime.
i30n
Can't wait for the N!
Hope they do a dsg
I've never owned Hyundai in my life so I don't understand the sudden hype but my god the Golf needs to go back to their drawing board
I've owned the MK5 and it was probably the most unreliable car I've driven in my life next to Nissan
Awful build quality with transmission built out of glass, anyone who says otherwise are obviously fanboys
The Mk 7 (and 7.5) is a pretty substantial step change from the Mk 5 era - an all new platform, for one.
drsnowmon I’ve had super-solid experience with my mk 6 manual TDI, oddly all issues went away after I left the warranty period. Trading up to an R next month. Cheers from Montréal.
That VW price doesn't seem right, Golf Highline with NO OPTIONS is over 40k on VW website...
That was not the price at the time this video was produced in December 2017
@@chasingcars hmm, VW prices going sky high...
give me the sr premium hynudai any day of the week love mine and kills the golf
Is this from Canada?
The colour of the i30 is the stargazing blue?
Yes it is.
Chasing Cars thank u very much !
i30 all the way !!!
Compere diesel vs diesel or petrol vs petrol
both nice cars.
No dab radio on the golf? My mk 6 has it, so that is very weird.
VW Australia don’t have DAB radio on any product apart from the Skoda Fabia
I have driven both cars, not the luxury Golf but the Golf wins hands down. I preferred the Golf over the Audi Q5.
i30
Don't know how in the world people can compare a VW car, with any Corean- Chinese. Only if you know nothing about the subject. I would consider it if the price was half priced.
Tenho um i30 2012 e só troco por um 2018
All these cheap wannabe competitors to the Golf. The Golf has reigned supreme since its introduction in the late 70's. It has always been the benchmark in it's class. It is by far the best all around car again in it's class. The Golf is legendary.
who cares about golf? hyundai Wins.
Does it tho
in this comparison noone should care,its clear that hyundai is better.
Alex Zeus clear for u for sure vw the best
Looks like less room in both width wise compared to a budget airline. Unfortunately all new cars now restrict any lateral movement giving a feeling of being hemmed in in a claustrophobic manner. Too much plastic, too much tech too much unnecessary clutter which removes the skill of a driver. Who can map read an atlas these days? Cup holders? Why when drinking while driving even if it's tea coffee or water is still illegal. Electric windows, mirrors sunroofs, seats, twatnav, all items to go wrong. What happened to basic reliable and hassel free motoring which means cheaper repairs. People are getting peed off with all this tech which doesn't enhance the motoring experience, it distracts.
I've had an i30 diesel. Be careful of the dpf. Need to be driven over a long distance at speed to keep dpf clean other wise you could find a hefty bill.
Golf diesel dpf just as expensive to replace.
Stick to petrol and use cruise control to get maximum mpg.